1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:26,664 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,704 --> 00:00:30,304 Speaker 1: the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 5 00:00:29,984 --> 00:00:31,144 Speaker 2: And I'm m Vernon. 6 00:00:31,184 --> 00:00:34,824 Speaker 1: Happy Vmay's Day, Happy VMA's Day, Great red carpet today. 7 00:00:34,904 --> 00:00:36,744 Speaker 1: Lots to talk about, which we're going to get into. 8 00:00:36,904 --> 00:00:39,664 Speaker 1: We're also going to get into some photos of Margot 9 00:00:39,744 --> 00:00:42,064 Speaker 1: Robbie that have gone viral and a bit of a 10 00:00:42,104 --> 00:00:44,704 Speaker 1: story behind them. It's a bit of a complicated discussion, 11 00:00:45,144 --> 00:00:45,984 Speaker 1: but first. 12 00:00:45,744 --> 00:00:49,144 Speaker 2: Up, But first we need to talk about the VMA's 13 00:00:49,344 --> 00:00:53,264 Speaker 2: red carpet. As is tradition on this podcast, every time 14 00:00:53,304 --> 00:00:56,424 Speaker 2: there's a red carpet, it always happens while we're in 15 00:00:56,464 --> 00:00:57,984 Speaker 2: the middle of recording. 16 00:00:57,544 --> 00:01:00,464 Speaker 1: Which is exactly what happens. There might be breaking news 17 00:01:00,464 --> 00:01:02,224 Speaker 1: in the middle of this podcast. We won't know. 18 00:01:02,264 --> 00:01:04,344 Speaker 2: About it because we're locked in a studio, locked in 19 00:01:04,344 --> 00:01:06,784 Speaker 2: the studio, but we will tell you if something does happen. Yes, 20 00:01:06,944 --> 00:01:09,624 Speaker 2: but the red carpet was happening as we were like 21 00:01:09,704 --> 00:01:13,104 Speaker 2: planning for the episode, and we need to talk about 22 00:01:13,184 --> 00:01:15,824 Speaker 2: our favorite outfits, also the outfits that we are not 23 00:01:15,864 --> 00:01:18,184 Speaker 2: too sure about, because I have a feeling that your 24 00:01:18,264 --> 00:01:21,664 Speaker 2: favorite outfits are in my category of I'm not too sure. 25 00:01:21,744 --> 00:01:23,824 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, hit me with it. Also, this 26 00:01:23,864 --> 00:01:26,304 Speaker 1: goes to show our personalities. I have mine saved on 27 00:01:26,344 --> 00:01:30,264 Speaker 1: my phone and you have printed yours out Like, can 28 00:01:30,264 --> 00:01:33,624 Speaker 1: we swap generations? I was like, I need my printer, 29 00:01:34,024 --> 00:01:36,584 Speaker 1: and I was like, who uses a printer? That's true. 30 00:01:36,824 --> 00:01:40,024 Speaker 2: So my first favorite is Paris Hilton. 31 00:01:40,384 --> 00:01:42,024 Speaker 1: Oh, interesting choice from you. 32 00:01:42,064 --> 00:01:45,904 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my thought process of why I've selected 33 00:01:45,944 --> 00:01:49,504 Speaker 2: Paris Hilton. Because I usually select, I've like changed the 34 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:51,184 Speaker 2: way I select favorite. 35 00:01:51,184 --> 00:01:51,384 Speaker 1: That's what. 36 00:01:51,464 --> 00:01:53,984 Speaker 2: God, I've changed the way I select my favorite outfits. 37 00:01:53,984 --> 00:01:57,144 Speaker 2: Now before I would select what I personally thought was 38 00:01:57,184 --> 00:02:00,424 Speaker 2: my favorite, but now I'm selecting what I personally believe 39 00:02:00,504 --> 00:02:02,744 Speaker 2: is the best outfit for that award show. 40 00:02:03,144 --> 00:02:04,904 Speaker 1: Well, yes, that is definitely the way you should look 41 00:02:04,904 --> 00:02:05,144 Speaker 1: at it. 42 00:02:05,184 --> 00:02:06,464 Speaker 2: I'm elevated in my choice. 43 00:02:06,464 --> 00:02:09,024 Speaker 1: It's very mature of you to realize this. I thought 44 00:02:09,104 --> 00:02:11,984 Speaker 1: she nailed it, Like I describe what she's wearing. Because 45 00:02:11,984 --> 00:02:13,384 Speaker 1: this is a podcast, I'm going to. 46 00:02:13,424 --> 00:02:20,064 Speaker 2: Describe it as like a torn messy cheek, silver glittery outfit. 47 00:02:20,344 --> 00:02:23,264 Speaker 1: It's almost like a silvery mesh material. She's got the 48 00:02:23,264 --> 00:02:26,064 Speaker 1: wet look hair, she's got the full choker, and there's 49 00:02:26,064 --> 00:02:31,624 Speaker 1: some strategic cutouts in the cutout. It's not classic Paris Hilton. 50 00:02:31,744 --> 00:02:34,144 Speaker 1: Like what I love about Paris Hilton is that that 51 00:02:34,264 --> 00:02:37,624 Speaker 1: photo could be from two thousand and three or it 52 00:02:37,664 --> 00:02:40,664 Speaker 1: could be from twenty twenty four. Like her style is 53 00:02:40,824 --> 00:02:43,344 Speaker 1: still it's one hundred percent, it still works. Like that's 54 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:44,144 Speaker 1: quite impressive. 55 00:02:44,384 --> 00:02:45,704 Speaker 2: Okay, you need to give me one of yours. 56 00:02:45,744 --> 00:02:48,584 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go with Oh I'm gonna pull a 57 00:02:48,624 --> 00:02:50,384 Speaker 1: big hitter out straight at the game. Okay, Well, I 58 00:02:50,384 --> 00:02:52,864 Speaker 1: think we need to talk about Sabrina Carpenter. She's not 59 00:02:53,024 --> 00:02:57,144 Speaker 1: exactly my Marilyn Monroe, my best stress. Yeah. We've talked 60 00:02:57,144 --> 00:02:59,544 Speaker 1: about this before with Sabrina Carpenter. And one thing I 61 00:02:59,544 --> 00:03:02,504 Speaker 1: find very impressive about her, like brand and her team, 62 00:03:02,704 --> 00:03:06,024 Speaker 1: is how her look is really selling her music and 63 00:03:06,064 --> 00:03:09,024 Speaker 1: it's become its own iconic thing. And she has stayed 64 00:03:09,104 --> 00:03:11,384 Speaker 1: very true to that look up the VMA's and she 65 00:03:11,424 --> 00:03:13,544 Speaker 1: also performed a mash with her song she Kissed an 66 00:03:13,544 --> 00:03:17,024 Speaker 1: Alien Stage. It's her night, really, And so she's wearing 67 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:21,504 Speaker 1: a white, secreted, very old school Hollywood dress strapless. She's 68 00:03:21,544 --> 00:03:24,984 Speaker 1: got the big bouncy blonde curls, the very dark deep 69 00:03:25,064 --> 00:03:27,944 Speaker 1: berry mayup that's become her signature. And it's all great. 70 00:03:28,064 --> 00:03:30,264 Speaker 1: The only thing is, like a lot of stars, when 71 00:03:30,304 --> 00:03:33,144 Speaker 1: they don't have their own persona fall back into doing 72 00:03:33,544 --> 00:03:36,544 Speaker 1: that old Hollywood look on the red carpet. And sometimes 73 00:03:36,544 --> 00:03:38,584 Speaker 1: I do it so intensely that it almost becomes like 74 00:03:38,664 --> 00:03:41,144 Speaker 1: old Hollywood drag, like it's a costume instead of an 75 00:03:41,144 --> 00:03:44,104 Speaker 1: homage to a particular time in the entertainment industry. So 76 00:03:44,144 --> 00:03:45,904 Speaker 1: I just I like that she say true to her look, 77 00:03:45,944 --> 00:03:48,104 Speaker 1: but I do wish that maybe she'd done something a 78 00:03:48,144 --> 00:03:49,544 Speaker 1: little bit different with it. 79 00:03:49,744 --> 00:03:53,504 Speaker 2: I was expecting a lot more from her. I felt 80 00:03:53,504 --> 00:03:56,424 Speaker 2: a bit bored for me, like stunning, she looks beautiful or. 81 00:03:56,464 --> 00:03:58,864 Speaker 1: Looks amazing, But she looks amazing. 82 00:03:58,904 --> 00:04:01,704 Speaker 2: I think she looks like a Miss Universe contestant, yes, 83 00:04:02,064 --> 00:04:03,584 Speaker 2: or like a magician's assistant. 84 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:07,184 Speaker 1: Yes again, both great things. Beautiful? Seen something else? Okay, 85 00:04:07,224 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 1: what else have you do? Okay? 86 00:04:08,544 --> 00:04:12,104 Speaker 2: My next one is Oh, that's one of my favorites too. 87 00:04:12,664 --> 00:04:16,664 Speaker 2: She's so beautiful. I just love the funness of the outfit. Yeah, 88 00:04:16,824 --> 00:04:20,024 Speaker 2: Like it's very like stringy and cut out. It's Neon yellow, 89 00:04:20,064 --> 00:04:23,024 Speaker 2: and her accessories are bright blue and a pinch shoe 90 00:04:23,104 --> 00:04:26,264 Speaker 2: pink shoe, so she's got like blue underwear on underneath 91 00:04:26,384 --> 00:04:29,744 Speaker 2: and a blue like choker necklace. I love how simple 92 00:04:29,784 --> 00:04:32,944 Speaker 2: her makeup is. It's very like Tyler still, but just 93 00:04:33,064 --> 00:04:35,544 Speaker 2: really fun and bright. And I missed a fun and 94 00:04:35,584 --> 00:04:37,344 Speaker 2: bright outfit. I want to bring back Neon. 95 00:04:37,504 --> 00:04:39,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That is exactly what one should wear, especially 96 00:04:40,024 --> 00:04:42,424 Speaker 1: if you're like a young singer be wearing to the VMEs. 97 00:04:42,464 --> 00:04:44,504 Speaker 1: And what I love about Tyler is she's very quickly 98 00:04:44,544 --> 00:04:46,384 Speaker 1: becoming one of my favorite people to look out for 99 00:04:46,504 --> 00:04:48,024 Speaker 1: in a red carpet because I know she's going to 100 00:04:48,064 --> 00:04:50,544 Speaker 1: do brings different. Well, It's like at the Mechala when 101 00:04:50,544 --> 00:04:53,024 Speaker 1: she was wearing the sand dress, remember that that was 102 00:04:53,064 --> 00:04:54,704 Speaker 1: one of the best looks of the night because of 103 00:04:54,704 --> 00:04:55,624 Speaker 1: the texture style. 104 00:04:55,784 --> 00:04:58,024 Speaker 2: She has to be carried up the stairs and the security. 105 00:04:57,704 --> 00:04:59,464 Speaker 1: Gud had to carry her one seriod of time, and 106 00:04:59,504 --> 00:05:01,384 Speaker 1: she just looked so like kind of like cool and 107 00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:03,224 Speaker 1: breezy while she was being carried up the stairs with 108 00:05:03,304 --> 00:05:05,464 Speaker 1: like a little bit of sand trickling over her shoulder 109 00:05:05,504 --> 00:05:07,424 Speaker 1: and they had to cut the dress off. And when 110 00:05:07,464 --> 00:05:10,544 Speaker 1: I saw this, like, it's almost like Raffia Neon with 111 00:05:10,584 --> 00:05:13,584 Speaker 1: a train, and it could have looked like big bird esque, 112 00:05:13,624 --> 00:05:16,704 Speaker 1: but it's just styled so well. So yeah, love her, Okay, 113 00:05:16,904 --> 00:05:19,664 Speaker 1: rapid fire through a few more on my best dressed list, 114 00:05:19,704 --> 00:05:23,304 Speaker 1: Little nas X in the hot pink and white suit 115 00:05:23,384 --> 00:05:26,224 Speaker 1: with the cropped jacket and their face is covered with 116 00:05:26,384 --> 00:05:29,184 Speaker 1: a helmet with like pink cone sticking out the side. Perfect, 117 00:05:29,184 --> 00:05:32,144 Speaker 1: absolutely no notes on that one. And then I think 118 00:05:32,184 --> 00:05:34,024 Speaker 1: we've got the same person on our list. 119 00:05:34,144 --> 00:05:36,984 Speaker 2: Next, is that Katy Perry? Yes, yeah, I had her 120 00:05:37,024 --> 00:05:38,784 Speaker 2: on my list and then I took her off. Why 121 00:05:39,024 --> 00:05:40,904 Speaker 2: because I thought Paris Hilton did it better. 122 00:05:41,264 --> 00:05:43,384 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean the girls of the same era, 123 00:05:43,504 --> 00:05:46,224 Speaker 1: they're very similar ages. I guess they'd be going towards 124 00:05:46,224 --> 00:05:47,904 Speaker 1: like a very similar look. This is very kind of 125 00:05:47,904 --> 00:05:48,824 Speaker 1: what Kim Kardashians. 126 00:05:48,864 --> 00:05:50,064 Speaker 2: She also did the wet look. 127 00:05:50,224 --> 00:05:51,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's on the wet loook. But I think 128 00:05:51,584 --> 00:05:53,304 Speaker 1: it's Katy Perry's night, like it's like part of her 129 00:05:53,344 --> 00:05:56,664 Speaker 1: big music relaunch and everything she's wearing again like a 130 00:05:56,704 --> 00:06:00,424 Speaker 1: slashed white skirt this is terrible way to describe fashion, 131 00:06:00,744 --> 00:06:03,064 Speaker 1: and a white crop top and she's got like oil 132 00:06:03,144 --> 00:06:05,104 Speaker 1: all over her absy and she's. 133 00:06:04,944 --> 00:06:07,584 Speaker 2: Also had a qr CO tattooed on her back. 134 00:06:07,704 --> 00:06:09,944 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, she just looks hot and gorgeous 135 00:06:09,944 --> 00:06:12,504 Speaker 1: and and I quite like the look, and I like 136 00:06:12,544 --> 00:06:14,664 Speaker 1: the Orlando blooms just standing her next to home, basic 137 00:06:14,784 --> 00:06:17,344 Speaker 1: like holding her hand in being her like side piece. 138 00:06:17,424 --> 00:06:19,344 Speaker 1: On the red carpet, I love that. On the black carpet, 139 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:21,904 Speaker 1: should we say, but yes. As she turned around, you 140 00:06:21,944 --> 00:06:24,104 Speaker 1: can see that she's got a QR code on her 141 00:06:24,104 --> 00:06:26,384 Speaker 1: lower back. And at first people were quite excited because 142 00:06:26,384 --> 00:06:28,344 Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, because she has like been 143 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:30,424 Speaker 1: outspoken for the Democrats and stuff before, and people like 144 00:06:30,464 --> 00:06:33,184 Speaker 1: it's a QR code to vote. It's not that, But 145 00:06:33,224 --> 00:06:35,704 Speaker 1: I understand why she's got it because she's deep in 146 00:06:35,784 --> 00:06:37,984 Speaker 1: promo mode and it's a pre sale for her new 147 00:06:38,024 --> 00:06:39,424 Speaker 1: album and her new song. Yeah. 148 00:06:39,504 --> 00:06:41,864 Speaker 2: Interesting you stand the qr CO. I hope people are 149 00:06:41,904 --> 00:06:43,384 Speaker 2: going up and it's one of those things I like 150 00:06:43,424 --> 00:06:44,664 Speaker 2: made people talk about her outfit. 151 00:06:44,824 --> 00:06:50,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, without kind of sacrificing being hot, which is important. 152 00:06:51,384 --> 00:06:54,824 Speaker 2: So do you have any other favorite outfits that we 153 00:06:54,904 --> 00:06:55,664 Speaker 2: need to discuss. 154 00:06:55,744 --> 00:06:59,264 Speaker 1: Okay podcast. Yes, I know that this is going to 155 00:06:59,264 --> 00:07:01,984 Speaker 1: be considered very much a crime against fashion, but I'm 156 00:07:01,984 --> 00:07:04,344 Speaker 1: here for it because if you can't wear this look 157 00:07:04,384 --> 00:07:07,024 Speaker 1: to the VMEs, where do you wear it? I'm talking 158 00:07:07,024 --> 00:07:10,664 Speaker 1: about young Addison Ray, YouTuber tern actress turn now trying 159 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:13,304 Speaker 1: to relaunch herself as like a serious singer, and she 160 00:07:13,504 --> 00:07:16,264 Speaker 1: is wearing all start from the bottom, a white picto 161 00:07:16,344 --> 00:07:21,024 Speaker 1: satin heel a bikini set with the bra top A 162 00:07:21,144 --> 00:07:23,784 Speaker 1: real choice because the boobs aren't fitting in there. But 163 00:07:23,824 --> 00:07:25,464 Speaker 1: it's not like when I try and put my massive 164 00:07:25,464 --> 00:07:27,664 Speaker 1: boobs into a bra, they don't fit. This is obviously 165 00:07:29,584 --> 00:07:32,104 Speaker 1: all women everywhere who can't find a well fitting bra. 166 00:07:32,344 --> 00:07:34,824 Speaker 1: They're almost like pointing out and so over. This white 167 00:07:34,864 --> 00:07:37,584 Speaker 1: bikini with the heels also very misuniverse, but in a 168 00:07:37,584 --> 00:07:41,584 Speaker 1: different way. She's got a massive chul skirt almost like 169 00:07:41,624 --> 00:07:44,384 Speaker 1: a train attached to the back of the bikini, with 170 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,464 Speaker 1: a sleek, long hair, very minimal makeup. I think she 171 00:07:47,504 --> 00:07:50,344 Speaker 1: looks amazing and also it's very costume and silly, but 172 00:07:50,504 --> 00:07:53,584 Speaker 1: that's what she's there for. You're not a fan, what 173 00:07:53,984 --> 00:07:55,744 Speaker 1: would you have put her. 174 00:07:55,504 --> 00:07:57,744 Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen Victoria's Secret. 175 00:07:57,504 --> 00:07:59,624 Speaker 1: To me, Yes, but I think that's the I think 176 00:07:59,664 --> 00:08:03,984 Speaker 1: that's also she's making headlines. Like the whole point of 177 00:08:04,024 --> 00:08:06,344 Speaker 1: like red carpets as currency is to be on the 178 00:08:06,384 --> 00:08:10,104 Speaker 1: red carpet, get people talking about you, get people sharing 179 00:08:10,144 --> 00:08:12,464 Speaker 1: your photo everywhere and getting your name out there. And 180 00:08:12,504 --> 00:08:14,504 Speaker 1: for someone like her who obviously so many people know 181 00:08:14,584 --> 00:08:16,744 Speaker 1: who she is, but she's trying to relaunch herself into 182 00:08:16,744 --> 00:08:20,144 Speaker 1: different areas, so these bursts of publicity. She's not getting 183 00:08:20,144 --> 00:08:22,504 Speaker 1: those bursts of publicity off her TikTok anymore in terms 184 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:24,344 Speaker 1: of like her dance video, so she has to do 185 00:08:24,384 --> 00:08:24,904 Speaker 1: stuff like this. 186 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:27,584 Speaker 2: She also probably has to wrap Charlie XCX, who I 187 00:08:27,584 --> 00:08:29,864 Speaker 2: don't think is there. Yeah, she's like, I have to do. 188 00:08:29,784 --> 00:08:31,184 Speaker 1: It for both of us. She's bringing them out. The 189 00:08:31,264 --> 00:08:33,264 Speaker 1: other one I think we need to talk about is 190 00:08:33,304 --> 00:08:35,464 Speaker 1: the person whose night I guess it really is, and 191 00:08:35,504 --> 00:08:38,184 Speaker 1: that's one Taylor Swift. Oh yes, what did you think 192 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:38,824 Speaker 1: of her outfit? 193 00:08:39,784 --> 00:08:42,744 Speaker 2: Just the classic Taylor Swift. Like the issue with Taylor 194 00:08:42,784 --> 00:08:46,464 Speaker 2: Swift's outfits is I'm never expecting much, so I'm always 195 00:08:46,504 --> 00:08:49,144 Speaker 2: kind of pleasantly surprised every time she. 196 00:08:49,144 --> 00:08:51,584 Speaker 1: Wears, so it's like almost like a yellow tartan, like 197 00:08:51,624 --> 00:08:54,544 Speaker 1: a big full skirt short of black underneath, the kind 198 00:08:54,544 --> 00:08:57,104 Speaker 1: of black roping up the arms a bit more kind 199 00:08:57,144 --> 00:09:01,544 Speaker 1: of like rocket Chick. Yeah, it feels like between. 200 00:09:01,424 --> 00:09:05,304 Speaker 2: Tortured Poets, which is her latest album, plus Reputation, which 201 00:09:05,424 --> 00:09:08,344 Speaker 2: was an album that everyone's still waiting for her to 202 00:09:08,784 --> 00:09:12,424 Speaker 2: re release. I don't think she will announce she will 203 00:09:12,504 --> 00:09:15,104 Speaker 2: release it, because, like you know, how she always announced something. 204 00:09:15,104 --> 00:09:16,904 Speaker 1: She accepts in a wh I don't think because it's 205 00:09:16,944 --> 00:09:19,424 Speaker 1: happening on September eleventh in New York, which is a 206 00:09:19,424 --> 00:09:21,424 Speaker 1: whole of situation that a lot of artists were not 207 00:09:21,424 --> 00:09:23,864 Speaker 1: happy about when it got moved because of a scheduling conflict. 208 00:09:24,024 --> 00:09:25,304 Speaker 1: I think it is going to stop a lot of 209 00:09:25,304 --> 00:09:27,504 Speaker 1: people out of respect. Like we know Taylors haves already 210 00:09:27,504 --> 00:09:30,144 Speaker 1: won an award when we're recording, and she started off 211 00:09:30,144 --> 00:09:32,544 Speaker 1: by talking about the nine to eleven attacks, and so 212 00:09:32,624 --> 00:09:33,864 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be the place for 213 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:36,144 Speaker 1: her to really announce something. However, maybe we'll come out 214 00:09:36,184 --> 00:09:38,184 Speaker 1: of this record and things will be different about this 215 00:09:38,224 --> 00:09:40,624 Speaker 1: red carpet outfit. Though I do feel like it's hard 216 00:09:40,624 --> 00:09:44,064 Speaker 1: because if she wears her traditional sparkly princessie dresses with 217 00:09:44,064 --> 00:09:46,584 Speaker 1: her like hair up and a red lip, people say 218 00:09:46,584 --> 00:09:49,184 Speaker 1: she's boring. And then when she goes to wear something 219 00:09:49,544 --> 00:09:51,944 Speaker 1: a bit different and a bit edgier, I guess is 220 00:09:51,984 --> 00:09:53,984 Speaker 1: the word. She's as edgy as I also get as 221 00:09:54,024 --> 00:09:55,864 Speaker 1: like a fellow Elber millennial or like you know, so 222 00:09:55,904 --> 00:09:58,864 Speaker 1: it's not that edgy. But then she also gets caught 223 00:09:58,864 --> 00:10:00,464 Speaker 1: out for being a bad dresser. So I just think 224 00:10:00,464 --> 00:10:01,944 Speaker 1: people are never really going to be happy with what 225 00:10:02,024 --> 00:10:03,584 Speaker 1: she wears. But the thing is she's not dressing for 226 00:10:03,584 --> 00:10:06,784 Speaker 1: the fashion people. She's dressing for her set of fans, 227 00:10:06,944 --> 00:10:08,744 Speaker 1: and they'll love this. So that's great. 228 00:10:08,864 --> 00:10:10,824 Speaker 2: That's great for them, love that for them. I also 229 00:10:10,864 --> 00:10:13,904 Speaker 2: need to talk about another outfit that also ended up 230 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:17,744 Speaker 2: being an entire like dramatic scene. So there were like 231 00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:20,464 Speaker 2: some nights and shining armor came out on the carpet 232 00:10:20,744 --> 00:10:23,944 Speaker 2: and they rolled out their own carpet and out came 233 00:10:24,184 --> 00:10:28,424 Speaker 2: Chapel Roone looking stunning, looking amazing her outfit like everyone 234 00:10:28,504 --> 00:10:29,264 Speaker 2: knew she'd kill it. 235 00:10:29,184 --> 00:10:33,184 Speaker 1: Anddi goddess, yes, beautiful with a sword an actual saw 236 00:10:33,264 --> 00:10:35,544 Speaker 1: that I love this again. People were like you know, 237 00:10:35,664 --> 00:10:38,504 Speaker 1: roll their eyes over, like Lady Gaga being carried into 238 00:10:38,504 --> 00:10:40,464 Speaker 1: a wards show in an egg or wearing a meat dress. 239 00:10:40,464 --> 00:10:41,904 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, these people are performing. 240 00:10:42,064 --> 00:10:44,024 Speaker 2: We need to treat the red carpet as a performance 241 00:10:43,984 --> 00:10:44,544 Speaker 2: in itself. 242 00:10:44,664 --> 00:10:45,704 Speaker 1: That's what it's there for. 243 00:10:46,184 --> 00:10:50,944 Speaker 2: So she definitely performed on the red carpet. Something happened though, 244 00:10:51,024 --> 00:10:54,544 Speaker 2: because as her team were getting her ready to approach 245 00:10:54,624 --> 00:10:57,624 Speaker 2: the carpet, like you can't roar dog a red carpet 246 00:10:57,784 --> 00:10:59,784 Speaker 2: when you first have to step aside, make sure your 247 00:10:59,824 --> 00:11:01,944 Speaker 2: hair is perfect, make sure you make us perfect, your 248 00:11:01,944 --> 00:11:02,664 Speaker 2: outfits perfect. 249 00:11:02,784 --> 00:11:04,944 Speaker 1: A team of people who set you up for the photos. 250 00:11:04,624 --> 00:11:06,984 Speaker 2: And not wearing outfits, are wearing pieces of art, and 251 00:11:07,024 --> 00:11:08,624 Speaker 2: they have to come out to make sure everything is 252 00:11:08,664 --> 00:11:10,784 Speaker 2: angled right. And then as she was doing that with 253 00:11:10,864 --> 00:11:14,664 Speaker 2: her team, something happened. A photographer yelled something at her 254 00:11:15,024 --> 00:11:17,344 Speaker 2: that we don't actually know what, Like what he said, well, 255 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:18,144 Speaker 2: a little. 256 00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:20,584 Speaker 1: Bit more information, okay, So I need to preface this 257 00:11:20,624 --> 00:11:23,424 Speaker 1: by saying, this is all still a little bit unfolding. 258 00:11:28,944 --> 00:11:31,944 Speaker 1: So potentially later on today or tonight or tomorrow whenever, 259 00:11:32,184 --> 00:11:34,024 Speaker 1: more videos will come out and we'll see what happened. 260 00:11:34,024 --> 00:11:36,224 Speaker 1: But at this moment in time of recording, when the 261 00:11:36,264 --> 00:11:38,904 Speaker 1: awards are still happening. What it looks like is that 262 00:11:38,984 --> 00:11:41,904 Speaker 1: she came out, the carpet rolled out, they're fixing her up, 263 00:11:41,944 --> 00:11:44,784 Speaker 1: she's getting her sword, and you're standing in front of 264 00:11:44,784 --> 00:11:47,584 Speaker 1: the pit on a red carpet, which is the most 265 00:11:47,584 --> 00:11:50,184 Speaker 1: intense place I personally have ever been. But I haven't 266 00:11:50,184 --> 00:11:51,904 Speaker 1: been to the VMA's, which I think would be more 267 00:11:51,904 --> 00:11:55,304 Speaker 1: intense than any red carpet I've been to. And basically 268 00:11:55,344 --> 00:11:58,304 Speaker 1: think of, like I guess, like a closing down sale, 269 00:11:58,624 --> 00:12:01,624 Speaker 1: mixed with schoolies, mixed with like the front like a 270 00:12:01,784 --> 00:12:04,304 Speaker 1: wash pit in a concert. And that's the intensity because 271 00:12:04,344 --> 00:12:06,664 Speaker 1: you have all these photographers with all their equipment grouped 272 00:12:06,704 --> 00:12:09,864 Speaker 1: and together. These stars come out and their entire job 273 00:12:10,504 --> 00:12:13,224 Speaker 1: is dependent on getting these particular shots, and you've got 274 00:12:13,264 --> 00:12:16,264 Speaker 1: fans screaming behind you. You've got people doing interviews up 275 00:12:16,264 --> 00:12:19,184 Speaker 1: and down the red carpet. It's a crazy, loud, intense 276 00:12:19,264 --> 00:12:19,824 Speaker 1: place with. 277 00:12:19,784 --> 00:12:22,824 Speaker 2: The added challenge of being Chapel roone where everyone knows 278 00:12:22,864 --> 00:12:25,944 Speaker 2: that you're nominated for Best New Artist. Yes, they know 279 00:12:26,024 --> 00:12:27,584 Speaker 2: that you're about to perform as well. 280 00:12:27,624 --> 00:12:30,064 Speaker 1: Exactly, so everyone wants this picture of her, so as 281 00:12:30,104 --> 00:12:32,464 Speaker 1: she comes out. There's so much screaming, and it's hard 282 00:12:32,464 --> 00:12:34,304 Speaker 1: to tell in the video, but you definitely hear a 283 00:12:34,344 --> 00:12:38,064 Speaker 1: photographer yell shut the fuck up, So we don't know 284 00:12:38,104 --> 00:12:41,224 Speaker 1: exactly who he was saying that too. I do find 285 00:12:41,304 --> 00:12:44,984 Speaker 1: it a little unbelievable he's saying it to her one 286 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:47,864 Speaker 1: she's not speaking, and to why would you yell at 287 00:12:47,864 --> 00:12:49,704 Speaker 1: at the person you're trying to get a photo of. 288 00:12:49,984 --> 00:12:51,584 Speaker 1: I actually think maybe he was yelling at to all 289 00:12:51,584 --> 00:12:54,024 Speaker 1: the people next to him who were screaming. Maybe the 290 00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:56,704 Speaker 1: pr could have been screaming on the side about moving 291 00:12:56,704 --> 00:12:58,824 Speaker 1: her along. And then in the video you see Chapel 292 00:12:58,944 --> 00:13:00,784 Speaker 1: Rone turn to him and say, no, you shut the 293 00:13:00,824 --> 00:13:04,264 Speaker 1: fuck up. And that has been captured and it's gone everywhere, 294 00:13:04,544 --> 00:13:06,944 Speaker 1: and there's a really intense narrative out where everyone's like, 295 00:13:07,304 --> 00:13:09,664 Speaker 1: thank God for Chapel Roane. She's a boss bitch. She 296 00:13:09,944 --> 00:13:12,464 Speaker 1: looked that paparazzi in the eye and told him to 297 00:13:12,464 --> 00:13:14,584 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, and good on her. And I 298 00:13:14,744 --> 00:13:17,184 Speaker 1: just think just a moment to realize that's not exactly 299 00:13:17,224 --> 00:13:20,144 Speaker 1: what happened. One, he's not a paparazzi. If she had 300 00:13:20,144 --> 00:13:22,704 Speaker 1: told a paparazzi to fuck off. I'd be like absolutely 301 00:13:22,704 --> 00:13:26,184 Speaker 1: on her side over it, because paparazzi, notoriously, they're not 302 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:29,224 Speaker 1: invited to events like this. They're following you through the street, 303 00:13:29,224 --> 00:13:31,224 Speaker 1: They're pushing the lens of their camera through your car, 304 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:33,264 Speaker 1: or chasing you into a restaurant, or chasing people with 305 00:13:33,304 --> 00:13:36,024 Speaker 1: their kids. Like, that's a very different thing too. If 306 00:13:36,064 --> 00:13:38,744 Speaker 1: you're on a red carpet like this, you're an accredited photographer. 307 00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:40,584 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're all great people. I'm sure there's 308 00:13:40,624 --> 00:13:42,544 Speaker 1: heaps of them that do terrible things, But I'm just saying, 309 00:13:42,584 --> 00:13:45,184 Speaker 1: not a paparazzi. Because you're at a work event, you're 310 00:13:45,224 --> 00:13:48,744 Speaker 1: standing there to be photographed. These people have all been 311 00:13:48,864 --> 00:13:50,544 Speaker 1: like accredited. You know what it's like when you've got 312 00:13:50,544 --> 00:13:51,784 Speaker 1: a red carp You've got to fill in so many 313 00:13:51,824 --> 00:13:54,064 Speaker 1: forms and your coverage and your background and that sort 314 00:13:54,064 --> 00:13:56,464 Speaker 1: of stuff, and you have to be with an approved outlet. 315 00:13:56,824 --> 00:13:59,224 Speaker 1: You're standing there and your job is to get these photos. 316 00:13:59,704 --> 00:14:03,384 Speaker 1: So he's like, don't girls people need their Getdy images. Yeah, 317 00:14:03,464 --> 00:14:05,224 Speaker 1: I mean there's people like us in the office refreshing 318 00:14:05,304 --> 00:14:07,624 Speaker 1: Getty being like we need these photos right now, like 319 00:14:07,664 --> 00:14:10,024 Speaker 1: we're waiting for them to drop so we can do 320 00:14:10,064 --> 00:14:11,984 Speaker 1: our And I just don't think this is the same 321 00:14:12,024 --> 00:14:14,744 Speaker 1: thing as her having the conversation she's been having recently 322 00:14:15,144 --> 00:14:18,344 Speaker 1: about the invasion of like media or fans or anything 323 00:14:18,424 --> 00:14:20,744 Speaker 1: like that. Telling someone on the red carpet who potentially 324 00:14:20,864 --> 00:14:23,184 Speaker 1: was just doing their job to fuck off, I think 325 00:14:23,304 --> 00:14:24,824 Speaker 1: is not a great look for her personally. 326 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:28,144 Speaker 2: It's kind of snowballing as well. Like I think that 327 00:14:28,344 --> 00:14:30,544 Speaker 2: was like one of the final things that happened. But 328 00:14:30,664 --> 00:14:34,264 Speaker 2: she recently did a profile in Rolling Stone where she 329 00:14:34,304 --> 00:14:36,504 Speaker 2: did talk about all of the stuff that we've talked 330 00:14:36,504 --> 00:14:39,064 Speaker 2: about on the spill, when she talks about stalking and 331 00:14:39,104 --> 00:14:42,104 Speaker 2: how it's getting so intense. She even spoke about how 332 00:14:42,104 --> 00:14:44,984 Speaker 2: Sabrina Carpenter contacted her saying they should get together, and 333 00:14:45,024 --> 00:14:47,784 Speaker 2: she said, we're both going through something so fucking hard. 334 00:14:47,904 --> 00:14:50,064 Speaker 2: She just feels like everything is flying and she's just 335 00:14:50,104 --> 00:14:52,104 Speaker 2: barely hanging on. I'm not sure if I would like 336 00:14:52,104 --> 00:14:54,384 Speaker 2: someone to say that about me in Rolling Stone. 337 00:14:54,544 --> 00:14:56,544 Speaker 1: That's a big reveal. It was really. 338 00:14:56,224 --> 00:14:57,984 Speaker 2: Intense, but she did say it was just good to 339 00:14:57,984 --> 00:15:00,664 Speaker 2: know someone else feels that way. She also said, part 340 00:15:00,664 --> 00:15:03,464 Speaker 2: of me hopes I never have a hit again because 341 00:15:03,504 --> 00:15:05,464 Speaker 2: then no one will ever expect anything from me. 342 00:15:05,584 --> 00:15:08,144 Speaker 1: Again. Yeah, as we've said before, she's obviously in a 343 00:15:08,144 --> 00:15:10,984 Speaker 1: difficult place, and like, I don't think people should going 344 00:15:10,984 --> 00:15:12,904 Speaker 1: maun on her for yelling and a photographer. That's fine. 345 00:15:12,944 --> 00:15:15,104 Speaker 1: I just think it's important to understand the backstory there. 346 00:15:15,264 --> 00:15:17,704 Speaker 2: But I think the issue with that is, like people 347 00:15:17,824 --> 00:15:21,424 Speaker 2: don't like seeing artists saying they're going to quit and 348 00:15:21,424 --> 00:15:23,584 Speaker 2: then they don't. Yeah, the same thing happened with Selena 349 00:15:23,624 --> 00:15:25,984 Speaker 2: Gomez every time she wants to leave Instagram and she 350 00:15:26,064 --> 00:15:26,664 Speaker 2: just comes back. 351 00:15:26,744 --> 00:15:28,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a hard thing to if you're a 352 00:15:28,104 --> 00:15:30,584 Speaker 1: fan who loves someone, and I think people who love 353 00:15:30,704 --> 00:15:33,024 Speaker 1: someone like Trablone are not necessarily the people who are 354 00:15:33,064 --> 00:15:35,064 Speaker 1: chasing her through the street, Like that's a very different 355 00:15:35,104 --> 00:15:38,584 Speaker 1: fan encounter. But yeah, it's also hard, I'm assuming for 356 00:15:38,984 --> 00:15:42,944 Speaker 1: the fans to be hearing how much she despises their attention. 357 00:15:43,064 --> 00:15:44,584 Speaker 1: But also I have a lot of empathy for this 358 00:15:44,664 --> 00:15:48,904 Speaker 1: situation that she's in, which has turned sour and dangerous 359 00:15:49,024 --> 00:15:50,944 Speaker 1: very very quickly. It's like she didn't almost get to 360 00:15:51,064 --> 00:15:54,104 Speaker 1: enjoy that burst of bigger fame that she got after 361 00:15:54,184 --> 00:15:56,224 Speaker 1: years and years and years of toiling away because it's 362 00:15:56,224 --> 00:15:59,504 Speaker 1: been soured so completely. So yeah, I'm kind of unfortunate 363 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:02,144 Speaker 1: that her big great carpet moment has been overshadowed by that, because, 364 00:16:02,184 --> 00:16:04,504 Speaker 1: like we said, she's there, nominated because people love her music, 365 00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:07,304 Speaker 1: people are excited to see her. She looks amazing. I 366 00:16:07,344 --> 00:16:09,064 Speaker 1: just kind of wish that had been the story, not 367 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:14,064 Speaker 1: the fuck off yelling well from one I guess slightly 368 00:16:14,104 --> 00:16:17,024 Speaker 1: dramatic red carpet to another red carpet that was at 369 00:16:17,104 --> 00:16:20,784 Speaker 1: less dramatic but has made worldwide headlines that the red carpet. 370 00:16:20,864 --> 00:16:23,504 Speaker 1: This's what happened a few days ago and was interesting 371 00:16:23,544 --> 00:16:25,544 Speaker 1: for one reason. So it was the premiere of My 372 00:16:25,704 --> 00:16:29,144 Speaker 1: Old Ass, which is an upcoming comedy drama film. We're 373 00:16:29,144 --> 00:16:30,744 Speaker 1: gonna go see it on Monday night. You're me Emily, 374 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:34,064 Speaker 1: So I hope that's in your calendar, my old Yes, 375 00:16:34,104 --> 00:16:37,904 Speaker 1: that is it? Okay, great, we're seeing it next week's 376 00:16:37,904 --> 00:16:39,984 Speaker 1: we'll give you a full review. But it's okay if 377 00:16:39,984 --> 00:16:42,024 Speaker 1: none of our listeners know the name of this movie 378 00:16:42,104 --> 00:16:45,104 Speaker 1: or that it's coming out, because it was completely overshadowed 379 00:16:45,464 --> 00:16:48,104 Speaker 1: by Margot Robbie and her baby bump. And when I 380 00:16:48,144 --> 00:16:50,944 Speaker 1: say overshadowed, not that she overshadowed it, so she was. 381 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:52,704 Speaker 2: At bump, created the shadow. 382 00:16:52,504 --> 00:16:54,504 Speaker 1: Yes, the bump. People were just excited to see it. 383 00:16:54,544 --> 00:16:57,904 Speaker 1: So Margot Robbie and her husband Tom Ackley own a 384 00:16:57,904 --> 00:17:01,304 Speaker 1: production company that does a lot of amazing projects, especially 385 00:17:01,344 --> 00:17:04,624 Speaker 1: with a real focus on women's storytelling in movies that 386 00:17:04,704 --> 00:17:08,024 Speaker 1: might potentially not be made by bigger studios. And this 387 00:17:08,104 --> 00:17:11,504 Speaker 1: particular movie, My Old Ass is written directed by Megan Park, 388 00:17:11,544 --> 00:17:14,104 Speaker 1: so old woman. It's got an amazing cast that includes 389 00:17:14,144 --> 00:17:16,904 Speaker 1: Aubrey Plaza. So people are very excited to see it. 390 00:17:17,304 --> 00:17:19,544 Speaker 1: And so Margo was on the red carpet as a 391 00:17:19,584 --> 00:17:22,584 Speaker 1: producer of the film, and that would have always made headlines. 392 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:25,664 Speaker 1: But why these photos went so intensely viral is that 393 00:17:26,184 --> 00:17:28,744 Speaker 1: she had been photographed with a baby bump a few 394 00:17:28,744 --> 00:17:31,384 Speaker 1: months ago while on holiday, and that was huge news 395 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,624 Speaker 1: because people didn't know she was pregnant because she's very private, 396 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:35,944 Speaker 1: she didn't announce it. And then she was at a 397 00:17:35,984 --> 00:17:38,304 Speaker 1: tennis match. Forgive me, I don't know which tennis match. 398 00:17:38,304 --> 00:17:40,984 Speaker 1: I want to say Wimbledon recently, No, a few months ago? 399 00:17:41,104 --> 00:17:43,024 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably, yeah, anyway, that does matter. When was 400 00:17:43,024 --> 00:17:45,344 Speaker 1: sports podcast and she had a baby bump there and 401 00:17:45,344 --> 00:17:47,664 Speaker 1: people thought it was really sweet. But I think because 402 00:17:47,704 --> 00:17:49,584 Speaker 1: we hadn't seen her in a while, so when she 403 00:17:49,744 --> 00:17:51,744 Speaker 1: appeared on the red carpet, she's wearing like a beautiful 404 00:17:51,784 --> 00:17:54,144 Speaker 1: silvery dress in a heel, like she always looks so gorgeous, 405 00:17:54,504 --> 00:17:57,184 Speaker 1: and the baby bump was quite visible, and because I 406 00:17:57,224 --> 00:17:59,184 Speaker 1: think it was the first time that she'd posed on 407 00:17:59,224 --> 00:18:01,544 Speaker 1: a red carpet like that. So the other photos people 408 00:18:01,664 --> 00:18:03,504 Speaker 1: like outlets like us might have been a bit hesitant 409 00:18:03,544 --> 00:18:05,504 Speaker 1: to use because our paparazzi, but this is different because 410 00:18:05,544 --> 00:18:09,504 Speaker 1: she's at work getting photographed. And the intensity with which 411 00:18:09,624 --> 00:18:13,424 Speaker 1: people were talking about these photos was quite extreme, one 412 00:18:13,464 --> 00:18:15,384 Speaker 1: I thought, because like we already knew she was pregnant, 413 00:18:15,384 --> 00:18:17,744 Speaker 1: so it wasn't a big reveal like Beyonce pulling out 414 00:18:17,784 --> 00:18:19,544 Speaker 1: her pregnant stomach while performing on stage. 415 00:18:19,544 --> 00:18:21,384 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, best VMA. I hope she 416 00:18:21,424 --> 00:18:23,584 Speaker 2: wins best performance. 417 00:18:23,304 --> 00:18:24,984 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, that was it. And also, you know, 418 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,464 Speaker 1: months in the making, really to have that baby, I'm 419 00:18:27,824 --> 00:18:30,544 Speaker 1: ready to go, and these photos just went everywhere. And 420 00:18:30,624 --> 00:18:33,184 Speaker 1: I think two things that were interesting was the intensity 421 00:18:33,224 --> 00:18:37,264 Speaker 1: of it, the intensity of how we just want to 422 00:18:37,344 --> 00:18:41,304 Speaker 1: look and talk about female celebrity bodies when they're pregnant, 423 00:18:41,504 --> 00:18:44,224 Speaker 1: because not only we're outlets and newspages sharing them, which 424 00:18:44,264 --> 00:18:46,904 Speaker 1: is kind of expected, but like even people like friends 425 00:18:46,904 --> 00:18:49,864 Speaker 1: I follow in my various social media accounts who aren't 426 00:18:49,864 --> 00:18:52,704 Speaker 1: in media were sharing photos of Margot Robbie from a 427 00:18:52,744 --> 00:18:55,824 Speaker 1: nice perspective, like saying she looks amazing. But I just 428 00:18:55,864 --> 00:18:59,344 Speaker 1: think it's just interesting how much like the intensity grows 429 00:18:59,384 --> 00:19:02,064 Speaker 1: around just like wanting to see a famous woman's body 430 00:19:02,344 --> 00:19:04,944 Speaker 1: when she's pregnant. And I wonder it's because we are 431 00:19:04,984 --> 00:19:07,544 Speaker 1: so used to seeing their bodies like looking like quote 432 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:10,984 Speaker 1: unquote perfect or this like conventional kind of beauty. It's 433 00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:14,264 Speaker 1: a really kind of strange way that people just want 434 00:19:14,264 --> 00:19:15,584 Speaker 1: to see the bump from every angle. 435 00:19:15,864 --> 00:19:17,424 Speaker 2: I have to admit that I am one of those 436 00:19:17,424 --> 00:19:22,184 Speaker 2: people like about Margot Robbi's baby and her bump, since 437 00:19:22,224 --> 00:19:24,784 Speaker 2: like we saw those paparazzi photos. I don't know, I 438 00:19:24,784 --> 00:19:26,824 Speaker 2: don't think it's like a celebrity thing in me, but 439 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:31,544 Speaker 2: I think just seeing women pregnant in real life for 440 00:19:31,624 --> 00:19:35,664 Speaker 2: me personally, it's like my brain trying to understand what's happening. 441 00:19:35,864 --> 00:19:38,224 Speaker 2: Like I think I'm so amazed by like how. 442 00:19:38,384 --> 00:19:39,864 Speaker 1: Because it's like a miracle every time. 443 00:19:39,944 --> 00:19:42,504 Speaker 2: But women can be so strong to carry another full human. 444 00:19:43,064 --> 00:19:45,424 Speaker 2: We have like at any given moment, there's at least 445 00:19:45,424 --> 00:19:46,904 Speaker 2: two pregnant people at Mamma mea. 446 00:19:46,864 --> 00:19:48,184 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's everywhere. 447 00:19:48,224 --> 00:19:50,904 Speaker 2: I just catch myself just constantly staring at them because 448 00:19:50,904 --> 00:19:53,224 Speaker 2: I'm like, what you're doing is so amazing. And with 449 00:19:53,264 --> 00:19:56,104 Speaker 2: margat Robbie's the added thing of being a celebrity, right, 450 00:19:56,224 --> 00:19:57,824 Speaker 2: so it's like a double whammy kind of. 451 00:19:58,104 --> 00:19:58,264 Speaker 1: Yeah. 452 00:19:58,264 --> 00:19:59,984 Speaker 2: So it's like I want to see a woman pregnant, 453 00:19:59,984 --> 00:20:02,464 Speaker 2: but then I also like, well, the celebrity is pregnant. 454 00:20:02,464 --> 00:20:04,224 Speaker 1: This is insane. So you were one of those people 455 00:20:04,264 --> 00:20:07,704 Speaker 1: clicking on the thousands of Marga Robbie photos. I'm sorry, 456 00:20:07,744 --> 00:20:09,144 Speaker 1: but I think also that sound like she was at 457 00:20:09,184 --> 00:20:11,584 Speaker 1: a public event. But I also just think about sometimes 458 00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:15,024 Speaker 1: how haaparazzi will chase pregnant celebrities through the streets and 459 00:20:15,024 --> 00:20:17,424 Speaker 1: stuff like that, because it's kind of a well known 460 00:20:17,464 --> 00:20:18,904 Speaker 1: thing that if they can't. 461 00:20:18,704 --> 00:20:20,664 Speaker 2: Be chasing these women that can barely they are. 462 00:20:20,704 --> 00:20:23,224 Speaker 1: There's a few times where celebrities like, I'm like, you're 463 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,304 Speaker 1: literally gonna, like, you know, mess with my health if 464 00:20:25,304 --> 00:20:27,464 Speaker 1: you're putting out this much stress, Like Hillary Duffers said 465 00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:30,184 Speaker 1: that because there's so many videos of her like getting 466 00:20:30,184 --> 00:20:32,144 Speaker 1: in out of her car or walking her kids places, 467 00:20:32,144 --> 00:20:34,424 Speaker 1: and she's heavily pregnant. She's like, you're gonna push me over, 468 00:20:34,504 --> 00:20:36,224 Speaker 1: Like get away from me. You got these same photos 469 00:20:36,224 --> 00:20:38,344 Speaker 1: of me yesterday I look, And I understand Hillary Dove's 470 00:20:38,344 --> 00:20:40,304 Speaker 1: frustration because she's like, I looked the same yesterday and 471 00:20:40,424 --> 00:20:42,664 Speaker 1: the day before. Like all these are. 472 00:20:42,664 --> 00:20:46,264 Speaker 2: So dangerous, Yeah, like physically dangerous for them, Like if 473 00:20:46,264 --> 00:20:50,304 Speaker 2: you're pregnant, you cannot like people forget that. Like I 474 00:20:50,304 --> 00:20:52,504 Speaker 2: think we only know from working among me. I had 475 00:20:52,504 --> 00:20:56,344 Speaker 2: no idea before, but like women's bodies when they're pregnant, 476 00:20:56,424 --> 00:20:59,664 Speaker 2: it's like they should be really like looking after themselves 477 00:20:59,744 --> 00:21:02,264 Speaker 2: and being like alone and like focusing on not being 478 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,504 Speaker 2: stressed out and stuff like that. Yeah, and then when 479 00:21:04,504 --> 00:21:06,024 Speaker 2: they just want to hang out with their kids in 480 00:21:06,064 --> 00:21:09,144 Speaker 2: the park and they're like seeing people taking photos of them, 481 00:21:09,224 --> 00:21:11,584 Speaker 2: that stress level is so dangerous. 482 00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:12,784 Speaker 1: And I think it's really heightened a lot of the 483 00:21:12,824 --> 00:21:15,264 Speaker 1: time when like your body has been your currency as 484 00:21:15,304 --> 00:21:17,704 Speaker 1: a famous woman too, it's like people want like a 485 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:19,944 Speaker 1: gotcha moment of like, oh look, she looks bad now, 486 00:21:20,424 --> 00:21:22,864 Speaker 1: like when Kim Kardashian was pregnant for the first time, 487 00:21:22,944 --> 00:21:25,064 Speaker 1: and a lot of times with celebrities, you see them 488 00:21:25,104 --> 00:21:26,464 Speaker 1: like they just have like a little bump and the 489 00:21:26,464 --> 00:21:28,704 Speaker 1: rest of their body stays the same, and everyone's like, oh, 490 00:21:28,744 --> 00:21:31,384 Speaker 1: look at a cute little bump. And then like Kim Kardashian, like, yes, 491 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:33,704 Speaker 1: the Met Gala photos went viral, but even before that, 492 00:21:33,744 --> 00:21:36,264 Speaker 1: like photographers are chasing her through the street because her 493 00:21:36,264 --> 00:21:39,224 Speaker 1: whole body changed, and I think that that became this 494 00:21:39,344 --> 00:21:41,584 Speaker 1: huge story, like everyone was so hungry to see her 495 00:21:41,664 --> 00:21:42,504 Speaker 1: pregnant that DoD. 496 00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:44,184 Speaker 2: Gets sicky when you're looking for the change. 497 00:21:44,264 --> 00:21:46,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're searching for it, they're looking for a 498 00:21:46,304 --> 00:21:48,664 Speaker 1: bad photo to show, like, look, she looks bad pregnant, 499 00:21:48,704 --> 00:21:51,744 Speaker 1: and I think with like em rata, because her body's 500 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:53,664 Speaker 1: also been her currency. And then there were so many 501 00:21:53,744 --> 00:21:56,024 Speaker 1: perhaps chasing her through the streets of New York, I 502 00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:57,864 Speaker 1: mean not chasing, because she just saunters and it's like, 503 00:21:57,904 --> 00:21:59,544 Speaker 1: you know what, am I gonna do? Not walk around 504 00:21:59,584 --> 00:22:01,984 Speaker 1: my town trying to get photos of her? And then 505 00:22:02,024 --> 00:22:04,024 Speaker 1: there were so many photos of her after the baby too, 506 00:22:04,064 --> 00:22:05,544 Speaker 1: because they were trying to get photos of what her 507 00:22:05,584 --> 00:22:08,384 Speaker 1: stomach looked like, which is quite intense weird. And then 508 00:22:08,424 --> 00:22:10,824 Speaker 1: I think about someone who like Break Lively, who when 509 00:22:10,864 --> 00:22:13,864 Speaker 1: she was pregnant with her fourth child, Like there's photos 510 00:22:13,984 --> 00:22:17,544 Speaker 1: of the paparazzi outside her home and they're like literally 511 00:22:17,584 --> 00:22:20,824 Speaker 1: climbing the fence and leaning through. There's you know, thirty 512 00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:23,304 Speaker 1: men outside her home and they're trying to get a 513 00:22:23,304 --> 00:22:25,584 Speaker 1: photo of her pregnant stomach. And I understand what she 514 00:22:25,624 --> 00:22:27,544 Speaker 1: was saying. She's like, this is my fourth baby, Like 515 00:22:27,904 --> 00:22:30,984 Speaker 1: you've seen me pregnant before, I look very similar. You're 516 00:22:30,984 --> 00:22:33,224 Speaker 1: also scaring my children because they want to know why 517 00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:34,904 Speaker 1: all these strange men are out the front. And then 518 00:22:34,904 --> 00:22:37,184 Speaker 1: she ended up just posting a series of photos of 519 00:22:37,224 --> 00:22:39,704 Speaker 1: herself pregnant. Who she was like here you go, like 520 00:22:39,824 --> 00:22:42,184 Speaker 1: leave me alone. Yeah, that's so messed up. But they 521 00:22:42,264 --> 00:22:44,784 Speaker 1: continued chasing her. It's like there was no scandal around 522 00:22:44,784 --> 00:22:46,464 Speaker 1: her baby, you do know what I mean? Like everyone's 523 00:22:46,504 --> 00:22:48,344 Speaker 1: like it's with Ryan Reynolds as their fourth kids, Like 524 00:22:48,384 --> 00:22:51,384 Speaker 1: it's exciting, but it shouldn't have been a huge news story. 525 00:22:51,624 --> 00:22:54,264 Speaker 2: The reason they chase hers because I know people are 526 00:22:54,264 --> 00:22:56,304 Speaker 2: constantly clicking on the statos exactly. 527 00:22:56,344 --> 00:22:57,984 Speaker 1: They know people are going to click, like that's why 528 00:22:57,984 --> 00:23:00,264 Speaker 1: they chase those photos. Because we have this thing about 529 00:23:00,304 --> 00:23:03,504 Speaker 1: seeing pregnant celebrity women in a like either a gotcha 530 00:23:03,544 --> 00:23:05,904 Speaker 1: moment or just because I think people are very happy 531 00:23:05,984 --> 00:23:08,144 Speaker 1: for them, which is nice, but it's a very intense thing. 532 00:23:08,664 --> 00:23:10,304 Speaker 1: I think. Also to kind of finish up on that thought, 533 00:23:10,584 --> 00:23:12,624 Speaker 1: is like Margot Robbie is at this premiere of a 534 00:23:12,664 --> 00:23:15,784 Speaker 1: movie that she worked really hard producing with her company, 535 00:23:15,944 --> 00:23:18,344 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she's also thinking that if she's there 536 00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,064 Speaker 1: it will get more attention for this movie that she 537 00:23:21,104 --> 00:23:24,184 Speaker 1: wants Peter to case to her, which normally would be 538 00:23:24,224 --> 00:23:26,024 Speaker 1: the case, but in this case, I think most people 539 00:23:26,024 --> 00:23:28,264 Speaker 1: who saw those pictures wouldn't even be aware of the 540 00:23:28,304 --> 00:23:31,344 Speaker 1: movie or the other cast members or anything like that. 541 00:23:31,424 --> 00:23:33,584 Speaker 1: It's like we were just so singularly focused on this 542 00:23:33,624 --> 00:23:35,784 Speaker 1: one thing. So anyway, we'll go through the movie next 543 00:23:35,784 --> 00:23:37,184 Speaker 1: week give you a full review. 544 00:23:37,504 --> 00:23:39,704 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening to The Spill today if 545 00:23:39,744 --> 00:23:43,424 Speaker 2: you missed any episodes. Yesterday, we did a big podcast 546 00:23:43,464 --> 00:23:47,584 Speaker 2: episode on Taylor Swift, Brittany Mahomes, the politics, the posts 547 00:23:47,624 --> 00:23:50,184 Speaker 2: that came after. We break everything down for you and 548 00:23:50,224 --> 00:23:52,264 Speaker 2: we will put a link to that in our show notes. 549 00:23:52,424 --> 00:23:54,264 Speaker 2: We will be back here in your podcast feed at 550 00:23:54,304 --> 00:23:55,264 Speaker 2: three pm tomorrow. 551 00:23:55,264 --> 00:24:01,024 Speaker 1: Bye bye Lan.