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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee
Speaker 1: Campbellin every week, I talk to an expert who helps
Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the
Speaker 1: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is
Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Style and confidence
Speaker 1: go hand in hand. But what if fashion feels intimidating,
Speaker 1: or out of reach or just not you. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: stuck in a rut, unsure of what suits you, or
Speaker 1: just don't have the budget all the time. Well that's
Speaker 1: where today's guest comes in. Donnie Allella calls himself the
Speaker 1: confidence Creator, and for good reason. He has over seventeen
Speaker 1: years in the industry and he styled every one from
Speaker 1: every day Ossie's to huge Hollywood celebrities, and he's proven
Speaker 1: through his work the great style isn't about trends or
Speaker 1: price tags. It's about feeling amazing in what we wear.
Speaker 1: In this episode, Donnie shares how to break through fashion fears,
Speaker 1: the styling trick that instantly boosts confidence, and some wardrobe
Speaker 1: essentials that give you a good outfit day what he
Speaker 1: calls God Donnie, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's been so long and we haven't
Speaker 1: had you on yet. Considering we're neighbors, we're friends, we
Speaker 1: see each other around all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, I ask first time guests two questions. Firstly, can
Speaker 1: you describe your own style in three words?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, I would say definitely tailored. Love a lot
Speaker 3: of tailored pieces. I feel there's an element of polished
Speaker 3: as well, and I feel confident my clothes are quite confident.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're my three.
Speaker 1: That works perfectly with what you do for a job.
Speaker 1: But I agree you are always so tailored and polish,
Speaker 1: Like have you ever won tracksuit pants?
Speaker 3: I absolutely do. But I guess I really believe the
Speaker 3: power of clothes, and every day I'm helping people look
Speaker 3: and feel good. Yeah, and I feel if I've got
Speaker 3: to start that myself. Yeah, so that I can bring
Speaker 3: that energy to my clients.
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, A theory that rings pretty true
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. We've got a wardrobe full
Speaker 1: of clothes, but there's a ten percent that we reach
Speaker 1: for the most what's in you or ten percent.
Speaker 3: I've probably got them on today. I mean a good
Speaker 3: tailored suit and whether you wear them dressy or wear
Speaker 3: it pair of down with some sneakers. But I love tailoring.
Speaker 3: And I've got so many suits, so many blazers.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, do you know how many
Speaker 1: blazers you've got?
Speaker 3: Must have at least over thirty. Yeah, And I love
Speaker 3: them and I put them on and I feel polished.
Speaker 3: I feel good finishes off my outfit. It's almost like
Speaker 3: putting on my Superman cape.
Speaker 1: Your amah, but in a confidence exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just put it on and it's like, I
Speaker 3: am ready. I feel good.
Speaker 1: I agree too with my blazers. I'm glad it's getting
Speaker 1: cooler now because it's just been too humid for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know how men do it. My poor husband
Speaker 1: half the time, I'm like, oh, your poor thing in
Speaker 1: a shirt and or a blazer. But blazers for women
Speaker 1: to just like add that layer.
Speaker 3: Of confidence a wardrobe essential definitely.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of confidence in your Instagram bio, you say
Speaker 1: you're the confidence creator, So how do you do that?
Speaker 1: How is style and confidence connected?
Speaker 3: Obviously I have been a stylist for in over fifteen years,
Speaker 3: but in the last kind of year or two have
Speaker 3: kind of repositioned myself as the confidence creator because at
Speaker 3: the crux of what I do is a stylist, it's
Speaker 3: making people feel confident, and that is the power of clothes.
Speaker 3: You put on a good outfit, you look good, you
Speaker 3: feel happy, You're nice to the people around you. You know,
Speaker 3: so your partner, you're more productive at work. The benefits
Speaker 3: go on forever. So I just wanted to teach people
Speaker 3: the power of clothes and confidence and help women shop.
Speaker 3: I think we all have a bit of a comfort
Speaker 3: zone sometimes, so helping people get out of their comfort
Speaker 3: zone and look, there could be a celebrity or they
Speaker 3: could be an every day Aussie mum and it's really
Speaker 3: done wonders in terms of I think there's always a
Speaker 3: stigma with stylists. It's like, oh, I can't see a stylus.
Speaker 3: They're just celebrities, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the true fans inexpensive and they're going to
Speaker 1: take me to Chanel.
Speaker 3: It was like, no, I can literally take you to Target,
Speaker 3: Big w Quba, whatever your price range is. Of course
Speaker 3: you want to shop with Gucci, let's go to Gucci,
Speaker 3: but like, whatever your budget, let's go yes.
Speaker 1: And way of the transformation that you help with, I
Speaker 1: can imagine that's so rewarding.
Speaker 3: It is phenomenal, Like it's the power of having those
Speaker 3: core from clients afterwards, they're like, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Like I've I've had more jeans for twenty years and
Speaker 3: now wearing jeans, I get calls from husbands saying, thank
Speaker 3: you so much, my wife, You're so happy now things
Speaker 3: in the bedroom are good again. I'm like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: too much information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the confidence does you know? It affects every part
Speaker 1: of your life.
Speaker 3: It is that flow on effect and you forget that
Speaker 3: you know you can have that impact on people and
Speaker 3: it's really really rewarded.
Speaker 1: And look, there is kind of two parts to your job,
Speaker 1: because you do a lot of beautiful celebrity dressing for
Speaker 1: events and stuff. But I think for the listeners here,
Speaker 1: it's probably more the everyday. Aussies that you're right, need
Speaker 1: help with the shopping because if they get the shopping right,
Speaker 1: then they can put it together when they get home.
Speaker 1: So what's the biggest blockers with confidence that we see
Speaker 1: or you see when it comes to fashion or your clients.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are stuckond a bit
Speaker 3: of style rut, and we go shopping, we come home
Speaker 3: and de handed. I think, what the problem is. You're
Speaker 3: going shopping and you're going to the same shopping center,
Speaker 3: you going to the same brand, You're going back to
Speaker 3: the same color, the same shape. It's your comfort zone.
Speaker 3: You're not getting the right thing. So for me saying stop, okay,
Speaker 3: let's look at clothes in a whole new way. Let's start.
Speaker 3: Let's work out what you need. Let's work out what
Speaker 3: are your best assets, what are the parts of your
Speaker 3: body you love. Let's celebrate that. Let's find clothes that
Speaker 3: make you feel good and celebrate your best assets. Then
Speaker 3: we've got the parts of our body we're not as
Speaker 3: confident with. It's like, all right, here are some styling
Speaker 3: tips and tricks that we're going to use to make
Speaker 3: you feel more confident about that. And it's just helping
Speaker 3: people get out of that shopping rut. And when they
Speaker 3: go shopping, they'll see shops in a whole new way.
Speaker 3: They'll go to shops they haven't been to. I think
Speaker 3: when you get into maybe your forties, your fifties, you
Speaker 3: kind of tell yourself you can't shop in particular shops yep,
Speaker 3: And you're making shopping hard because as soon as you
Speaker 3: get to that west Field you already said, well, I
Speaker 3: can't shop there. They're they're they're they're half your options
Speaker 3: are gone. So it's teaching women that you can shop
Speaker 3: in body or sports, go wherever. It is just going
Speaker 3: looking for the things that you want and need.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that, yeh, and just have a brows.
Speaker 1: You don't have to buy. But if you haven't been
Speaker 1: in there for one year, five years, ten years, go
Speaker 1: and see what it's like.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And sometimes you know, we have had a bad
Speaker 3: experience as a brand, and we're like, I'm never going
Speaker 3: back to that brand again because bloody shell all she
Speaker 3: ripped me off me. Can you give me the receipt?
Speaker 3: But forget about those bad experiences or those past perceptions
Speaker 3: what you think a brand is like, because brands are
Speaker 3: always changing and evolving and having new collections. So almost like,
Speaker 3: don't even look at the brands of the stores you're
Speaker 3: going into. Just go in with knowing what you want
Speaker 3: to buy, and forget about the brands that you're looking at.
Speaker 1: And just go in. So true because despite this job
Speaker 1: of mine, I go to my local shopping center and
Speaker 1: I know the stores there and I go to them
Speaker 1: same three. And you know, of course I do research
Speaker 1: for work and shop online, but even online I go
Speaker 1: to a bunch of websites that I go to far
Speaker 1: more than any others. So it's getting out and just
Speaker 1: going to places you haven't been. Absolutely, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to go shopping with you.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do it now.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a good outfit day,
Speaker 1: So we want to aim for a wardrobe full of God.
Speaker 1: Go d good outfit day. I love that.
Speaker 3: I always say to people, you want to have a
Speaker 3: God experience every day, and God is good outfit day.
Speaker 3: You wake up put on that God all day. You
Speaker 3: look good, you feel confident, you feel empowered, you own
Speaker 3: the room, you have good day at work, you happy
Speaker 3: with the family, And that's the power of a good outfit.
Speaker 3: And you want to create a wardrobe full of God outfits. Yes,
Speaker 3: so every day you can feel empowered and amazing and wonderful.
Speaker 1: That is the best acronym. I love it. I thought
Speaker 1: of GHD for good hair Day, but I like this
Speaker 1: related to fashion, yeah, exactly. Listeners to this show will
Speaker 1: have various problems or just want to hear various people
Speaker 1: like you experts, opinions on you know. It could be budget,
Speaker 1: it could be not knowing what suits them like you say,
Speaker 1: it could be something from their past or something they've
Speaker 1: told themselves. If they don't have a U to take
Speaker 1: them shopping, how can we help them if they can?
Speaker 3: So many ideas here. So the first thing I would say,
Speaker 3: I guess you need a sense of inspiration. So I
Speaker 3: say Pinterest is a good source in terms of working
Speaker 3: out what you like. So you know, I've got a
Speaker 3: few Pinterest pages and I'll go through and I'll pin
Speaker 3: things that I love. And then when you go back
Speaker 3: through your fold is you kind of be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: these are the things I love, These are the vibes,
Speaker 3: these are the shapes of the colors. I think it's
Speaker 3: great to have celebrity crushes and people style that you love. Again,
Speaker 3: go through those pages and be like, oh, I like
Speaker 3: cas she's done that that day, that I love these pieces,
Speaker 3: and start to get some ideas of your missing pieces
Speaker 3: of what you can buy to achieve those looks.
Speaker 1: So listen to start to get a common theme. Then,
Speaker 1: don't you If you've saved enough or looked enough, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe that's.
Speaker 3: My shapes and colors and things that be like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is what I want to shop for. But I
Speaker 3: think most importantly too, is know your own wardrobe. I
Speaker 3: think we're very much guilty of going out and buying
Speaker 3: lots of things. But know what you have, know what
Speaker 3: your gaps are. Have you got those top fifteen things
Speaker 3: that every woman should have in a wardrobe, because if
Speaker 3: you don't, that should be your starting point. Have those
Speaker 3: wardrobe essentials first. Got those great. Now we can get
Speaker 3: some trend items or some pieces that you know you
Speaker 3: might see some celebrities wearing, but actually go into your
Speaker 3: wardrobe first. Do the CuW get rid of the crap,
Speaker 3: get the weeds out of there.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's like gardening you. That's such a good Get.
Speaker 3: Those weeds out first. Then you've got to get the fertilizer.
Speaker 3: And then you can have that beautiful grown garden.
Speaker 1: True, because if you've got to, like I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: my wardrobe at the moment, if you've got a garden
Speaker 1: full of weeds, you know it's a mess. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been cleaned out, and I don't know what. You don't
Speaker 1: know what's there. You don't want to go and play
Speaker 1: in there. But once you've got all the weeds out,
Speaker 1: it's it's a joyful place because what's left is valuable.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And then when shopping becomes so much
Speaker 3: easier because you know what your gaps are and you
Speaker 3: kind of got a bit of a plan. Now you
Speaker 3: kind of thinking, Okay, if I want to create that
Speaker 3: style of that celebrity, then I know I want to
Speaker 3: buy these pieces, and I've got all my essential pieces,
Speaker 3: and then you have this beautiful garden of clothes.
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that analogy all the time. So
Speaker 1: on that point of confidence, And you mentioned the essentials.
Speaker 1: I think you said fifteen. Is is that a been
Speaker 1: fast number?
Speaker 3: Pretty much? I think so, yeah, it's really condense you
Speaker 3: and have fifteen things you good bye. I think it's
Speaker 3: about fifteen essentials.
Speaker 1: And have you come up with that, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you what a couple of them are in a mimument.
Speaker 1: But have you come up with that over your years
Speaker 1: and years of taking real women shopping and what they're
Speaker 1: missing and then what fills the holes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So whenever I do any style session, we sit
Speaker 3: down for a coffee first before we hit the shops,
Speaker 3: and I'll actually say do you have these items? And
Speaker 3: we'll go through so you know, your little black dress,
Speaker 3: your white shirt, your pair of geen, your black planets,
Speaker 3: your black skirt, blaser. You know, if you don't have
Speaker 3: any of those, that is the first things we're going
Speaker 3: to shop forcause they become the cornerstone of your wardrobe.
Speaker 3: They are the glue, so anything else you buy will
Speaker 3: stick with that. You'll always have something to wear. Then
Speaker 3: when you're traveling, if you just pack those fifteen items
Speaker 3: or so, boys got someone That is.
Speaker 1: Such a good point when you meet with these clients.
Speaker 1: Is it often that they don't have them, or you know,
Speaker 1: enough combinations of them, or sometimes do they have just them?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Actually shocked at how many pieces of women don't have
Speaker 3: from those things because they seem so basic. You know,
Speaker 3: for example, a classic white shirt. Most people like, oh,
Speaker 3: white shirt, how boring.
Speaker 1: Not fun to shop. Four heats don't have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, I think where they If you work in
Speaker 3: a business world, it's like, no, a white shirt you
Speaker 3: could wear over a cozie, you could wear it open,
Speaker 3: over a T shirt, you could layer it. So I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are missing those essential pieces.
Speaker 3: So when you shot for those and suddenly they've got them,
Speaker 3: it's a game changer.
Speaker 1: And now what about if those essentials are outdated? Not
Speaker 1: saying that we have to follow every brand new trend exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, I went through my black pants recently, and
Speaker 1: black pants are a classic and a staple, but some
Speaker 1: of them I was just like, you are not right
Speaker 1: for me anymore. So do we have to update our staples?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: You know, like, for example, you know, classic black pants
Speaker 3: you might have bought ten years ago. Right now you
Speaker 3: might want something with a slightly wider leg or a
Speaker 3: higher waist. Our bodies change over time. Right now, I
Speaker 3: need a high waist, So it's absolutely perfect idea to
Speaker 3: update your essential to everyone's in a while as your
Speaker 3: body changes or your needs change. Absolutely yeah, I know it.
Speaker 3: And jeans, I think jeans are one of those things
Speaker 3: that always kind of changing too. So it's always good
Speaker 3: to update your GM.
Speaker 1: But don't throw away your skinnies because apparently they're still
Speaker 1: coming back. I'm hearing you know what.
Speaker 3: I swear. If I got a dollar for every time
Speaker 3: I get asked and I used to wear my skinny jeans,
Speaker 3: I would be rich.
Speaker 1: And what's your answer, I say, if they.
Speaker 3: Make you feel good, keep wearing.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, if they make you feel confident, because.
Speaker 3: That's what fashion is all about. You know, I got
Speaker 3: to admit, these wide pants don't do a lot for us.
Speaker 3: They're adding bulk to our friends. So you know, if
Speaker 3: the skinny jeen makes you feel good, keep wearing that
Speaker 3: skinny jean, girlfriend, because seriously do it.
Speaker 1: And because that goes to show again why your service
Speaker 1: is so valuable, because confidence is different to different people,
Speaker 1: and confidence might not be you know, quote unquote looking
Speaker 1: cool if you don't feel good, if you feel silly,
Speaker 1: if you feel like it doesn't suit you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I always say, don't follow trends just because it's
Speaker 3: a trend. If you don't love it, don't follow it.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to love it. Your heart has
Speaker 3: to love it because when you wear it, you want
Speaker 3: to feel like you just feel with joy. So don't
Speaker 3: wear things just because you know someone else is wearing it.
Speaker 1: Getting a stylist can be intimidating or exclusive, but even
Speaker 1: fashion and you know, caring about what you look like
Speaker 1: can feel like you're vein or you don't know how.
Speaker 1: You know it's for the fancy people, But how do
Speaker 1: people shift that mindset to realize that everyone deserves to
Speaker 1: enjoy getting dressed if they want to, or enjoy shopping,
Speaker 1: or at least not hate it and be scared of it.
Speaker 3: I think one of my mantre has always has been
Speaker 3: is everyone does to look good and feel fabulous, and
Speaker 3: no matter your age, your size, of your shopping budget,
Speaker 3: I think that's really important. We all want to feel good,
Speaker 3: we want to feel happy, we want to feel confident,
Speaker 3: and clothes allow us to do that. We wear clothes
Speaker 3: every day. Like you said earlier, our arm are in life.
Speaker 1: It's illegal, not too unfortunately you know.
Speaker 3: This colony correct do what you want, but otherwise you
Speaker 3: were in clothes every day. So it is important to
Speaker 3: invest time into your clothes. Like think about how much
Speaker 3: money we put into our hair, our nails, our tans
Speaker 3: and that, and they're not really essential that the clothes are. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so if you just invested in the stylist once in
Speaker 3: your lifetime, or even just a stylish friend or you know,
Speaker 3: one of your gay mates who has a bit of
Speaker 3: you know, loves going shopping.
Speaker 1: Now, just to have better ones to go shopping with.
Speaker 1: I fine, because you don't both fall in love with
Speaker 1: the same piece and go. But I want to wear
Speaker 1: it to lunch on Saturday.
Speaker 3: And they'll tell you, and they'll tell you the truth,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So we've got a listener. Let's pretend this listener, or
Speaker 1: anyone out there, wants to feel more confident, wants to
Speaker 1: get the courage to care about what they wear or
Speaker 1: to go shopping. Where did they start. Let's pretend they're
Speaker 1: starting with a few key pieces, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: sort of now autumn, going into the cooler months. What
Speaker 1: would you say to look for in terms of shapes
Speaker 1: or colors?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I think right now it's time to start
Speaker 3: getting refereed autumn. As you said, so must have is
Speaker 3: a great coat. I think a coat is an absolutely
Speaker 3: must have. A trench would be a great starting point
Speaker 3: if you don't have a trench. A beautiful wrap style
Speaker 3: coat as well, I mean cashme it would be the
Speaker 3: dream if you want to invest in a cashmere coat.
Speaker 3: So a good coat, a couple of beautiful knits. Obviously,
Speaker 3: it's all that layering. So some beautiful knits, and I
Speaker 3: think you want to keep warm in your lower halfs
Speaker 3: there's some nice pants or maybe a nice knit dress
Speaker 3: or something like that. So you know, three to four
Speaker 3: pieces that you can layer and that will get you
Speaker 3: through the cooler months.
Speaker 1: Okay, what colors are you seeing for this autumn?
Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of beautiful, rich burgundiers and those
Speaker 3: beautiful deep reds, which are so gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I agree, they're pretty much fluttering on everyone.
Speaker 3: They are. They really are such a beautiful color. And
Speaker 3: so many different shades of it too.
Speaker 1: Okay, and brown, here's singing brown everywhere.
Speaker 3: I am seeing brown everywhere.
Speaker 1: I've always liked brown, and then I thought I hated brown,
Speaker 1: and now I love brown and such sheep.
Speaker 3: I'm so into this chocolate right, give it to me
Speaker 3: or shades, all flavors delicious.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: But again, as I said, it is a bit of
Speaker 3: a trend. So I wouldn't go out and buy a
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars brown coat. Good point. So this is
Speaker 3: where you know, invest in those essentials that we spoke about.
Speaker 3: But then the trend items like a brown coat that's
Speaker 3: maybe Azara or something like that. I feel like more affordable.
Speaker 1: Now you take people shopping for a living like hello,
Speaker 1: you spend other people's money.
Speaker 3: It's the dream.
Speaker 1: We're going to do some stores a bit later, and
Speaker 1: why in bougie and budget. But I want to know
Speaker 1: where do you take your clients? Where do you have
Speaker 1: the most luck. It can be expensive, it can be affordable,
Speaker 1: but perhaps they would normally go, oh I can't go
Speaker 1: in there, or oh I wouldn't go in there. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me where you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you know most ladies I'm peaking too.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's their local Westfield, So you know key stores
Speaker 3: to Cuba. For me, Strike Great is incredible, Like I
Speaker 3: think Greed. I'll always come out with handfuls of stuff,
Speaker 3: especially their genes.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they're basic. I think it's like d Luxe.
Speaker 3: Basic and Venim is the core of their brand. That's
Speaker 3: where they began. So when a client says, I don't
Speaker 3: have generl right to Cuba. Get the mecky gene.
Speaker 1: Oh what I need to google that one. Do you
Speaker 1: think that they've just better in the past few years
Speaker 1: as well? It's always been a good base.
Speaker 3: It's always absolutely really evolving. Their latest collection. Looking at
Speaker 3: it's so fashion like you've got all the fashion colors.
Speaker 3: So but they understand, especially the mum who just needs
Speaker 3: something that's stylish but yet practical and versatile. Dress it up,
Speaker 3: gool pickups, wear it out for dinner and that's what
Speaker 3: we want.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so we.
Speaker 3: Like to Cuba. This is a bit of a surprise one.
Speaker 3: But the last month taking clients to sports Girl, and
Speaker 3: you know, I'm taking women who are generally in there,
Speaker 3: like thirties, forties, fifty and like not going in sports Girl.
Speaker 3: And then when we get in there, amazing, like the
Speaker 3: beautiful two piece sets. I want to say, giving me
Speaker 3: other Ma vibes or the Lemon vibes without the price tag.
Speaker 1: And do you know why I love that? Because you
Speaker 1: were and I a similar age and there was a
Speaker 1: point where I saved up all my money to shop
Speaker 1: at sports Girl and then I haven't really been in
Speaker 1: there much lately, And yeah, I would think it's too
Speaker 1: young for me or whatever.
Speaker 3: They've got some great pieces of two piece sets Max.
Speaker 3: So like we have these preconceived notions of brands, you've
Speaker 3: got to let go of that and just shop everywhere.
Speaker 3: So they're doing some fabulous things Portman's right now. I've
Speaker 3: taken clients in there recently, some gorgeou stuff. I think
Speaker 3: we had ideas of Portman's being very suity.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. It was definitely corporatety when all my friends
Speaker 1: were starting to be lawyers and I was starting out
Speaker 1: in media, and then I thought, oh well, I don't
Speaker 1: need a pencil skirt.
Speaker 3: But some of the dresses that they're doing at the moment,
Speaker 3: absolute phenomenal. Chic is another brand. I can always take
Speaker 3: clients in. We'll always walk out with bags and stuff.
Speaker 3: Forecast again Forecasts, very very under the radar, yes, but
Speaker 3: again always finding beautiful things in there with clients.
Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because I was looking for something
Speaker 1: to wear all fancy event lately and I was on
Speaker 1: the Iconic. Actually they saw it on the Iconic. They
Speaker 1: do have something phenomenal pieces, very expensive.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're doing some good things.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to pretend clients they've got a bit
Speaker 1: more money.
Speaker 3: Where are we going? Okay, So I think into that
Speaker 3: next kind of little shelf up Country Road of some
Speaker 3: beautiful things, some leather pieces that are just absolutely divine
Speaker 3: at the moment. Have you shopped in control a Look.
Speaker 1: There's a skirt I really want to leather, like almost
Speaker 1: like a circle skirt.
Speaker 3: Beautiful.
Speaker 1: Will I get enough? We're out of it? No, I'll
Speaker 1: probably buy an inspired by piece, yeah, Country Road.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I think, you know, if you want
Speaker 3: to start speaking at some gorgeous designers like me in
Speaker 3: a beautiful Alime two piece set just for something color.
Speaker 3: I'm all about color and prints that spark joy and Alime.
Speaker 3: I look at their pieces and it makes me happy.
Speaker 3: I don't know they just if you just had one piece,
Speaker 3: beautiful two piece set from alame gorgeous and they were
Speaker 3: just in a new white Lotus, alamee and is in
Speaker 3: them and both appear the new white Lotus, the designers
Speaker 3: a snag a piece before they prot price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like that you said two piece set
Speaker 1: because you're I can tell you're thinking versatility as a.
Speaker 3: Set where them are separates, you put them together. It's
Speaker 3: just easy. It's polished and people be like, oh Aliae, yeah,
Speaker 3: go girl, I love that.
Speaker 1: So, like I said before, you do have sort of
Speaker 1: two sides of the coin to your job. You dress
Speaker 1: what I would say, fancy celebrities and fancy you know, events,
Speaker 1: and then you more everyday people that aren't celebrities. Do
Speaker 1: they ever have anything in common? You know? Is it
Speaker 1: so weird or is it similar?
Speaker 3: Regardless if they are a list Hollywood celebrity or every
Speaker 3: busy mom, one thing they have in commedies. They both
Speaker 3: have insecurities. And we often look at these gorgeous celebrities
Speaker 3: and say, oh my god, they are perfect. They must
Speaker 3: be so happy they can wear anything. No, I feel
Speaker 3: they almost have more insecurities than every day people, maybe
Speaker 3: because they are in that limelight and they know there
Speaker 3: are millions of people watching everything that they do. But
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a great reminder that we all
Speaker 3: have insecurities, we all have things about our bodies we
Speaker 3: don't like. Really, it is any opener and eye.
Speaker 1: Open as good. I was gonna say, that's really nice
Speaker 1: to hear, which it's not, because I don't want anyone
Speaker 1: to feel that way, but yes, you can feel very
Speaker 1: us in them. And you know, we both are on
Speaker 1: social media and could sometimes. You know, our lives are
Speaker 1: very glamorous and not as glamorous as it less celebrities.
Speaker 1: But everyone is human.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, They're all humans. They have emotions and they definitely
Speaker 3: have insecurity as well. So regardless if it's a celebrity,
Speaker 3: every day mum, I'll always begin with a briefing session
Speaker 3: and chat to find out what they're comfortable in. Even
Speaker 3: a celebrity, I'll ask you, what parts of your body
Speaker 3: do you love them most of the parts that you
Speaker 3: may not like as much, And I factor that intout Bee,
Speaker 3: because if you're going to walk down a red carpet,
Speaker 3: I'll want them to own that red carp and feel amazing. Stuff.
Speaker 3: I'll put it in something that's hiding all their best
Speaker 3: assets and accentuating parts they don't like. You're going to
Speaker 3: see them walking down the red carpet like looking really nervous.
Speaker 1: And so it's the same for strutting into school pickup.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. You want to state school pick up and
Speaker 3: be like, damn y, yeah she looks amazing.
Speaker 1: So confidence is at the root of everything you do,
Speaker 1: no matter.
Speaker 3: Who it is, exactly, And I always ask those same
Speaker 3: questions right at the beginning. Doesn't matter if they're a
Speaker 3: celebrity or an every day month because I really want
Speaker 3: to get inside their head to understand how can I
Speaker 3: make them feel amazing, What pieces kind of put on
Speaker 3: them that they're just going to love and feel empowered.
Speaker 1: Totally, And back to your point before we all have
Speaker 1: to wear clothes every day. We don't have to spend
Speaker 1: a huge amount of money. You know, we can still
Speaker 1: be on a tight budget, but we can feel good.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very expensive. How wondred these twenty five percent?
Speaker 1: So we thought we'd do some stores already drilled you
Speaker 1: on that. But do you want to do that? Because
Speaker 1: I've got two not unexpected ones, but I've got a
Speaker 1: bougie store that I'm loving what they're doing for this
Speaker 1: autumn winter and a budget one.
Speaker 3: Okay, give it to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, My budget is Target because as we know, you know,
Speaker 1: Kmart had to glow up, Target had to go up.
Speaker 1: Big W's just had to go up. The Target's autumn
Speaker 1: winter range now is pretty phenomenal. All three of those
Speaker 1: stores I was in there the other day right are
Speaker 1: used to you know, I would always do a bit
Speaker 1: of Target, particularly having a son. Some came out in
Speaker 1: Big W but now all three of them. I'm going
Speaker 1: to the women's section and I'm blown away.
Speaker 3: It is amazing. Target. The other day I saw they've
Speaker 3: got a faux leather trench. Oh my goodness, it is
Speaker 3: just beautiful. And this hu's access through John if you
Speaker 3: got to that section. But I was.
Speaker 1: I bought forty dollars real suede loafers from Target. They're
Speaker 1: coming black and beige.
Speaker 3: They are killing much. They're very comfortable and define the
Speaker 3: men's section. I had a client she likes oversized blazers,
Speaker 3: and she bought some men's blazers from the Target section.
Speaker 3: So a lot of women love that there will be
Speaker 3: more size and unstructured.
Speaker 1: And I go thrifting all the time and look at
Speaker 1: them in section, but I never thought to go to
Speaker 1: cam up, Big W or Target. Man.
Speaker 3: Yes, so check it out. Don't sleep on that people.
Speaker 3: It is incredible.
Speaker 1: I've got to go and my bougie. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not outrageous, but it's more expensive than those stores. Is
Speaker 1: seed this season. I've always loved seeds, dip in and out.
Speaker 1: I find that there's summers maybe a bit too linen
Speaker 1: near for me. But like we said, the rich chocolates,
Speaker 1: the Burgundies, there's furry texture, there's velvet.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, love it.
Speaker 1: The suede. I am so back in love with seed.
Speaker 1: I'm saving up for a pair of shoes. They're not
Speaker 1: extremely expensive, but I don't need another pair of shoes.
Speaker 1: But I bought some fifty dollars Sunnies from them, their
Speaker 1: new autumn collection. They're just a big, simple sunglass but
Speaker 1: with sort of a It was called Rainforest. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like an olive green frame. And I've never had
Speaker 1: more comments on a pair of Sunnies and now fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: Accessories really are the best way to up that your outfit.
Speaker 3: I must say, do you get to that point with you?
Speaker 3: I do yea, yeah, absolutely, because I think accessories are
Speaker 3: the frosting on the cake. And it's a part of
Speaker 3: the love of struggle with thought. Because we're busy, man,
Speaker 3: you're running around. It's like the last thing we have
Speaker 3: time adding those accessories.
Speaker 1: But it feels optional, but it's actually sometimes the easiest.
Speaker 3: And people know, I noticed your necklace soon as I
Speaker 3: walked in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was literally running back in the house
Speaker 1: because I was like, God, I basically so plain.
Speaker 3: It's like the frosting on the cake. And I really
Speaker 3: noticed that, so taking those few extra moments in the
Speaker 3: morn ad that frosting. But also like we're like magpies, right,
Speaker 3: we are literally drawn to anything shiny or blingy. So
Speaker 3: that's exactly what my eyes went to. So I always say,
Speaker 3: if you are feelings, they self conscious about you know,
Speaker 3: our tummy section, if you wore that nice big statementeering
Speaker 3: you've shifted the focus up here and away from our
Speaker 3: area of concern.
Speaker 1: True, and your handbag always fits, your sunglasses always fits you.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what your body's doing.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So accessories always is the perfect way to finish
Speaker 3: off the outfit but draw the attention away from our
Speaker 3: areas of concern.
Speaker 1: So you I'll ask you where you're like shopping for accessories,
Speaker 1: then look, it can just be somewhere as affordable as Levisa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they just don't wear things. Target even have
Speaker 3: some great things in their jeury section, and their bags
Speaker 3: are amazing as well.
Speaker 1: Levisa does a waterproof collection, which you think is you know,
Speaker 1: for summer and swimming and if you're going you're but
Speaker 1: I honestly just live in it and shower because I'm
Speaker 1: lazy and it does not tarnish.
Speaker 3: And all these really beautiful sculptural gold earrings that are
Speaker 3: at the moment to Cuba have them and they are
Speaker 3: like twenty thirty bucks and they are phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can keep rocking that a way.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me we're anywhere else? Do you like
Speaker 1: to go shopping? Or am I really putting you off thee?
Speaker 3: No? I think I kind of nailed nailed.
Speaker 1: Do you do the big h and ms and Zara's
Speaker 1: Oh of course?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean I think that I
Speaker 3: actually did a post the other day and it's kind
Speaker 3: of gone a little bit of viral. But I went
Speaker 3: into Zara and I was just horrified what was available,
Speaker 3: Like it was bad Boho, the Ruffles, the Prince. I
Speaker 3: was shocked. I was like a beginning April falls right
Speaker 3: that we're getting punked by Zara.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and very seasoned. Some stores are stronger than another.
Speaker 3: It does, but it goes through phases like I'll go
Speaker 3: back in a month and most of that stuff has
Speaker 3: probably gone and some new stuff will hopefully be better. Yes,
Speaker 3: and are of course always got some great things quite
Speaker 3: an especially around summer when they start doing their swim
Speaker 3: where their beach cover ups and stuff like that. Absolute
Speaker 3: chef's kiss, definitely, Donnie.
Speaker 1: Do you know what else I love about your philosophy.
Speaker 1: What I've taken from this is that confidence doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you need to have a lot or spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 3: Absolutely no.
Speaker 1: And that's just so relatable and so refreshing to hear.
Speaker 3: I think. I mean, growing up and Dad was a
Speaker 3: boiler maker, we didn't have a lot of money. I
Speaker 3: remember Mum would take a shopping and we'd get a
Speaker 3: best and lesson places like that. But as a young boy,
Speaker 3: I was always fascinated about pulling out fits together, watching
Speaker 3: mum a bit of a s interest making things and
Speaker 3: how she just add this finesse and polish to her clothes.
Speaker 3: Growing up having background, there's a saying called loudbella feel good,
Speaker 3: which means you try to look put together and nice,
Speaker 3: even if you just going to the local shops or
Speaker 3: just putting some effort in. And I think that's always
Speaker 3: just stuck with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes so much sense because I can
Speaker 1: see you in forty years and you'll be the most
Speaker 1: polished old Italian a man a cafe. Yes, honestly no,
Speaker 1: you're such a joy to all Australian women that you
Speaker 1: help shop and around the world. What's your Instagram handle?
Speaker 3: It is just at Donnie Gillella Easy.
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