1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:23,825 Speaker 1: recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously. 4 00:00:23,425 --> 00:00:27,865 Speaker 2: Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have 5 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: to do it. You live for fashion. 6 00:00:31,185 --> 00:00:33,825 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 7 00:00:33,865 --> 00:00:37,065 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 8 00:00:37,145 --> 00:00:39,705 Speaker 1: Campbellin every week, I talk to an expert who helps 9 00:00:39,785 --> 00:00:41,465 Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the 10 00:00:41,465 --> 00:00:43,905 Speaker 1: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 11 00:00:43,985 --> 00:00:48,065 Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Style and confidence 12 00:00:48,105 --> 00:00:51,705 Speaker 1: go hand in hand. But what if fashion feels intimidating, 13 00:00:51,785 --> 00:00:54,905 Speaker 1: or out of reach or just not you. Maybe you're 14 00:00:54,945 --> 00:00:57,065 Speaker 1: stuck in a rut, unsure of what suits you, or 15 00:00:57,145 --> 00:00:59,745 Speaker 1: just don't have the budget all the time. Well that's 16 00:00:59,785 --> 00:01:03,865 Speaker 1: where today's guest comes in. Donnie Allella calls himself the 17 00:01:03,865 --> 00:01:07,865 Speaker 1: confidence Creator, and for good reason. He has over seventeen 18 00:01:07,985 --> 00:01:10,105 Speaker 1: years in the industry and he styled every one from 19 00:01:10,105 --> 00:01:13,625 Speaker 1: every day Ossie's to huge Hollywood celebrities, and he's proven 20 00:01:13,665 --> 00:01:16,265 Speaker 1: through his work the great style isn't about trends or 21 00:01:16,305 --> 00:01:19,385 Speaker 1: price tags. It's about feeling amazing in what we wear. 22 00:01:19,705 --> 00:01:22,625 Speaker 1: In this episode, Donnie shares how to break through fashion fears, 23 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:26,185 Speaker 1: the styling trick that instantly boosts confidence, and some wardrobe 24 00:01:26,265 --> 00:01:29,105 Speaker 1: essentials that give you a good outfit day what he 25 00:01:29,265 --> 00:01:32,265 Speaker 1: calls God Donnie, welcome to the show. 26 00:01:32,465 --> 00:01:33,785 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 27 00:01:33,905 --> 00:01:35,425 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's been so long and we haven't 28 00:01:35,425 --> 00:01:37,585 Speaker 1: had you on yet. Considering we're neighbors, we're friends, we 29 00:01:37,665 --> 00:01:39,305 Speaker 1: see each other around all the time. 30 00:01:39,465 --> 00:01:40,625 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. 31 00:01:40,665 --> 00:01:43,785 Speaker 1: Well, I ask first time guests two questions. Firstly, can 32 00:01:43,825 --> 00:01:46,065 Speaker 1: you describe your own style in three words? 33 00:01:46,585 --> 00:01:49,105 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, I would say definitely tailored. Love a lot 34 00:01:49,145 --> 00:01:52,225 Speaker 3: of tailored pieces. I feel there's an element of polished 35 00:01:52,665 --> 00:01:57,625 Speaker 3: as well, and I feel confident my clothes are quite confident. 36 00:01:57,705 --> 00:01:59,025 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're my three. 37 00:01:58,905 --> 00:02:00,985 Speaker 1: That works perfectly with what you do for a job. 38 00:02:00,985 --> 00:02:03,385 Speaker 1: But I agree you are always so tailored and polish, 39 00:02:03,465 --> 00:02:04,905 Speaker 1: Like have you ever won tracksuit pants? 40 00:02:05,105 --> 00:02:08,825 Speaker 3: I absolutely do. But I guess I really believe the 41 00:02:08,865 --> 00:02:11,345 Speaker 3: power of clothes, and every day I'm helping people look 42 00:02:11,425 --> 00:02:13,185 Speaker 3: and feel good. Yeah, and I feel if I've got 43 00:02:13,225 --> 00:02:15,505 Speaker 3: to start that myself. Yeah, so that I can bring 44 00:02:15,505 --> 00:02:16,825 Speaker 3: that energy to my clients. 45 00:02:16,865 --> 00:02:19,385 Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, A theory that rings pretty true 46 00:02:19,425 --> 00:02:21,145 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. We've got a wardrobe full 47 00:02:21,145 --> 00:02:23,065 Speaker 1: of clothes, but there's a ten percent that we reach 48 00:02:23,145 --> 00:02:24,985 Speaker 1: for the most what's in you or ten percent. 49 00:02:25,585 --> 00:02:27,825 Speaker 3: I've probably got them on today. I mean a good 50 00:02:27,985 --> 00:02:31,065 Speaker 3: tailored suit and whether you wear them dressy or wear 51 00:02:31,105 --> 00:02:34,185 Speaker 3: it pair of down with some sneakers. But I love tailoring. 52 00:02:34,225 --> 00:02:36,065 Speaker 3: And I've got so many suits, so many blazers. 53 00:02:36,225 --> 00:02:37,425 Speaker 1: I was going to say, do you know how many 54 00:02:37,425 --> 00:02:38,145 Speaker 1: blazers you've got? 55 00:02:38,945 --> 00:02:41,825 Speaker 3: Must have at least over thirty. Yeah, And I love 56 00:02:41,865 --> 00:02:43,465 Speaker 3: them and I put them on and I feel polished. 57 00:02:43,465 --> 00:02:46,345 Speaker 3: I feel good finishes off my outfit. It's almost like 58 00:02:46,425 --> 00:02:47,985 Speaker 3: putting on my Superman cape. 59 00:02:48,105 --> 00:02:50,625 Speaker 1: Your amah, but in a confidence exactly. 60 00:02:50,705 --> 00:02:52,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just put it on and it's like, I 61 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:53,985 Speaker 3: am ready. I feel good. 62 00:02:54,145 --> 00:02:56,025 Speaker 1: I agree too with my blazers. I'm glad it's getting 63 00:02:56,025 --> 00:02:58,025 Speaker 1: cooler now because it's just been too humid for me. 64 00:02:58,065 --> 00:02:59,945 Speaker 1: I don't know how men do it. My poor husband 65 00:02:59,985 --> 00:03:01,345 Speaker 1: half the time, I'm like, oh, your poor thing in 66 00:03:01,385 --> 00:03:04,025 Speaker 1: a shirt and or a blazer. But blazers for women 67 00:03:04,065 --> 00:03:05,705 Speaker 1: to just like add that layer. 68 00:03:05,505 --> 00:03:07,945 Speaker 3: Of confidence a wardrobe essential definitely. 69 00:03:08,025 --> 00:03:11,625 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of confidence in your Instagram bio, you say 70 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:15,345 Speaker 1: you're the confidence creator, So how do you do that? 71 00:03:15,425 --> 00:03:17,985 Speaker 1: How is style and confidence connected? 72 00:03:18,145 --> 00:03:20,585 Speaker 3: Obviously I have been a stylist for in over fifteen years, 73 00:03:20,585 --> 00:03:21,905 Speaker 3: but in the last kind of year or two have 74 00:03:22,025 --> 00:03:24,425 Speaker 3: kind of repositioned myself as the confidence creator because at 75 00:03:24,425 --> 00:03:26,185 Speaker 3: the crux of what I do is a stylist, it's 76 00:03:26,225 --> 00:03:29,105 Speaker 3: making people feel confident, and that is the power of clothes. 77 00:03:29,185 --> 00:03:31,145 Speaker 3: You put on a good outfit, you look good, you 78 00:03:31,145 --> 00:03:33,225 Speaker 3: feel happy, You're nice to the people around you. You know, 79 00:03:33,305 --> 00:03:36,265 Speaker 3: so your partner, you're more productive at work. The benefits 80 00:03:36,265 --> 00:03:38,665 Speaker 3: go on forever. So I just wanted to teach people 81 00:03:38,745 --> 00:03:41,705 Speaker 3: the power of clothes and confidence and help women shop. 82 00:03:41,905 --> 00:03:43,185 Speaker 3: I think we all have a bit of a comfort 83 00:03:43,265 --> 00:03:45,305 Speaker 3: zone sometimes, so helping people get out of their comfort 84 00:03:45,345 --> 00:03:47,305 Speaker 3: zone and look, there could be a celebrity or they 85 00:03:47,305 --> 00:03:49,745 Speaker 3: could be an every day Aussie mum and it's really 86 00:03:49,745 --> 00:03:52,145 Speaker 3: done wonders in terms of I think there's always a 87 00:03:52,145 --> 00:03:54,265 Speaker 3: stigma with stylists. It's like, oh, I can't see a stylus. 88 00:03:54,305 --> 00:03:55,545 Speaker 3: They're just celebrities, Oh my god. 89 00:03:55,705 --> 00:03:57,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the true fans inexpensive and they're going to 90 00:03:57,865 --> 00:03:58,625 Speaker 1: take me to Chanel. 91 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,065 Speaker 3: It was like, no, I can literally take you to Target, 92 00:04:01,145 --> 00:04:04,545 Speaker 3: Big w Quba, whatever your price range is. Of course 93 00:04:04,585 --> 00:04:06,425 Speaker 3: you want to shop with Gucci, let's go to Gucci, 94 00:04:06,505 --> 00:04:08,665 Speaker 3: but like, whatever your budget, let's go yes. 95 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:11,225 Speaker 1: And way of the transformation that you help with, I 96 00:04:11,225 --> 00:04:12,465 Speaker 1: can imagine that's so rewarding. 97 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:16,265 Speaker 3: It is phenomenal, Like it's the power of having those 98 00:04:16,305 --> 00:04:18,625 Speaker 3: core from clients afterwards, they're like, thank you so much. 99 00:04:18,745 --> 00:04:21,025 Speaker 3: Like I've I've had more jeans for twenty years and 100 00:04:21,065 --> 00:04:23,625 Speaker 3: now wearing jeans, I get calls from husbands saying, thank 101 00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:25,865 Speaker 3: you so much, my wife, You're so happy now things 102 00:04:25,905 --> 00:04:27,905 Speaker 3: in the bedroom are good again. I'm like, well, okay, 103 00:04:27,945 --> 00:04:28,665 Speaker 3: too much information. 104 00:04:28,785 --> 00:04:31,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, the confidence does you know? It affects every part 105 00:04:31,145 --> 00:04:31,625 Speaker 1: of your life. 106 00:04:31,625 --> 00:04:33,945 Speaker 3: It is that flow on effect and you forget that 107 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:35,585 Speaker 3: you know you can have that impact on people and 108 00:04:35,625 --> 00:04:36,865 Speaker 3: it's really really rewarded. 109 00:04:36,905 --> 00:04:38,585 Speaker 1: And look, there is kind of two parts to your job, 110 00:04:38,585 --> 00:04:40,745 Speaker 1: because you do a lot of beautiful celebrity dressing for 111 00:04:40,785 --> 00:04:42,745 Speaker 1: events and stuff. But I think for the listeners here, 112 00:04:42,745 --> 00:04:46,625 Speaker 1: it's probably more the everyday. Aussies that you're right, need 113 00:04:46,705 --> 00:04:49,265 Speaker 1: help with the shopping because if they get the shopping right, 114 00:04:49,265 --> 00:04:50,985 Speaker 1: then they can put it together when they get home. 115 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:54,545 Speaker 1: So what's the biggest blockers with confidence that we see 116 00:04:54,745 --> 00:04:56,945 Speaker 1: or you see when it comes to fashion or your clients. 117 00:04:57,385 --> 00:04:58,865 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are stuckond a bit 118 00:04:58,905 --> 00:05:01,105 Speaker 3: of style rut, and we go shopping, we come home 119 00:05:01,105 --> 00:05:03,265 Speaker 3: and de handed. I think, what the problem is. You're 120 00:05:03,305 --> 00:05:05,305 Speaker 3: going shopping and you're going to the same shopping center, 121 00:05:05,385 --> 00:05:07,025 Speaker 3: you going to the same brand, You're going back to 122 00:05:07,025 --> 00:05:09,825 Speaker 3: the same color, the same shape. It's your comfort zone. 123 00:05:09,905 --> 00:05:12,465 Speaker 3: You're not getting the right thing. So for me saying stop, okay, 124 00:05:12,545 --> 00:05:15,305 Speaker 3: let's look at clothes in a whole new way. Let's start. 125 00:05:15,385 --> 00:05:17,305 Speaker 3: Let's work out what you need. Let's work out what 126 00:05:17,305 --> 00:05:18,785 Speaker 3: are your best assets, what are the parts of your 127 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:21,945 Speaker 3: body you love. Let's celebrate that. Let's find clothes that 128 00:05:21,985 --> 00:05:24,425 Speaker 3: make you feel good and celebrate your best assets. Then 129 00:05:24,465 --> 00:05:26,145 Speaker 3: we've got the parts of our body we're not as 130 00:05:26,185 --> 00:05:28,065 Speaker 3: confident with. It's like, all right, here are some styling 131 00:05:28,105 --> 00:05:30,225 Speaker 3: tips and tricks that we're going to use to make 132 00:05:30,265 --> 00:05:32,705 Speaker 3: you feel more confident about that. And it's just helping 133 00:05:32,705 --> 00:05:34,985 Speaker 3: people get out of that shopping rut. And when they 134 00:05:34,985 --> 00:05:36,825 Speaker 3: go shopping, they'll see shops in a whole new way. 135 00:05:36,825 --> 00:05:38,665 Speaker 3: They'll go to shops they haven't been to. I think 136 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:41,025 Speaker 3: when you get into maybe your forties, your fifties, you 137 00:05:41,105 --> 00:05:43,705 Speaker 3: kind of tell yourself you can't shop in particular shops yep, 138 00:05:43,905 --> 00:05:45,745 Speaker 3: And you're making shopping hard because as soon as you 139 00:05:45,785 --> 00:05:47,105 Speaker 3: get to that west Field you already said, well, I 140 00:05:47,145 --> 00:05:49,825 Speaker 3: can't shop there. They're they're they're they're half your options 141 00:05:49,825 --> 00:05:52,745 Speaker 3: are gone. So it's teaching women that you can shop 142 00:05:52,785 --> 00:05:55,105 Speaker 3: in body or sports, go wherever. It is just going 143 00:05:55,185 --> 00:05:56,705 Speaker 3: looking for the things that you want and need. 144 00:05:57,105 --> 00:05:59,065 Speaker 1: Don't worry about that, yeh, and just have a brows. 145 00:05:59,145 --> 00:06:00,785 Speaker 1: You don't have to buy. But if you haven't been 146 00:06:00,825 --> 00:06:02,985 Speaker 1: in there for one year, five years, ten years, go 147 00:06:03,145 --> 00:06:03,905 Speaker 1: and see what it's like. 148 00:06:04,065 --> 00:06:05,785 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And sometimes you know, we have had a bad 149 00:06:05,825 --> 00:06:07,545 Speaker 3: experience as a brand, and we're like, I'm never going 150 00:06:07,625 --> 00:06:09,945 Speaker 3: back to that brand again because bloody shell all she 151 00:06:10,065 --> 00:06:12,025 Speaker 3: ripped me off me. Can you give me the receipt? 152 00:06:12,385 --> 00:06:15,665 Speaker 3: But forget about those bad experiences or those past perceptions 153 00:06:15,705 --> 00:06:17,665 Speaker 3: what you think a brand is like, because brands are 154 00:06:17,665 --> 00:06:21,305 Speaker 3: always changing and evolving and having new collections. So almost like, 155 00:06:21,345 --> 00:06:22,905 Speaker 3: don't even look at the brands of the stores you're 156 00:06:22,945 --> 00:06:24,905 Speaker 3: going into. Just go in with knowing what you want 157 00:06:24,945 --> 00:06:27,625 Speaker 3: to buy, and forget about the brands that you're looking at. 158 00:06:27,545 --> 00:06:30,065 Speaker 1: And just go in. So true because despite this job 159 00:06:30,145 --> 00:06:32,425 Speaker 1: of mine, I go to my local shopping center and 160 00:06:32,545 --> 00:06:34,105 Speaker 1: I know the stores there and I go to them 161 00:06:34,185 --> 00:06:36,465 Speaker 1: same three. And you know, of course I do research 162 00:06:36,505 --> 00:06:38,185 Speaker 1: for work and shop online, but even online I go 163 00:06:38,265 --> 00:06:40,345 Speaker 1: to a bunch of websites that I go to far 164 00:06:40,425 --> 00:06:42,265 Speaker 1: more than any others. So it's getting out and just 165 00:06:42,385 --> 00:06:45,625 Speaker 1: going to places you haven't been. Absolutely, yeah, I want 166 00:06:45,625 --> 00:06:46,265 Speaker 1: to go shopping with you. 167 00:06:46,305 --> 00:06:47,265 Speaker 3: All right, let's do it now. 168 00:06:47,345 --> 00:06:50,865 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a good outfit day, 169 00:06:50,945 --> 00:06:53,065 Speaker 1: So we want to aim for a wardrobe full of God. 170 00:06:53,425 --> 00:06:55,465 Speaker 1: Go d good outfit day. I love that. 171 00:06:55,705 --> 00:06:57,625 Speaker 3: I always say to people, you want to have a 172 00:06:57,745 --> 00:07:01,865 Speaker 3: God experience every day, and God is good outfit day. 173 00:07:02,065 --> 00:07:05,065 Speaker 3: You wake up put on that God all day. You 174 00:07:05,185 --> 00:07:07,665 Speaker 3: look good, you feel confident, you feel empowered, you own 175 00:07:07,785 --> 00:07:10,185 Speaker 3: the room, you have good day at work, you happy 176 00:07:10,265 --> 00:07:12,825 Speaker 3: with the family, And that's the power of a good outfit. 177 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:16,345 Speaker 3: And you want to create a wardrobe full of God outfits. Yes, 178 00:07:16,625 --> 00:07:19,505 Speaker 3: so every day you can feel empowered and amazing and wonderful. 179 00:07:19,625 --> 00:07:21,185 Speaker 1: That is the best acronym. I love it. I thought 180 00:07:21,185 --> 00:07:22,985 Speaker 1: of GHD for good hair Day, but I like this 181 00:07:23,225 --> 00:07:26,665 Speaker 1: related to fashion, yeah, exactly. Listeners to this show will 182 00:07:26,705 --> 00:07:29,345 Speaker 1: have various problems or just want to hear various people 183 00:07:29,585 --> 00:07:32,945 Speaker 1: like you experts, opinions on you know. It could be budget, 184 00:07:33,225 --> 00:07:35,865 Speaker 1: it could be not knowing what suits them like you say, 185 00:07:35,865 --> 00:07:38,505 Speaker 1: it could be something from their past or something they've 186 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:41,545 Speaker 1: told themselves. If they don't have a U to take 187 00:07:41,585 --> 00:07:43,705 Speaker 1: them shopping, how can we help them if they can? 188 00:07:44,945 --> 00:07:47,425 Speaker 3: So many ideas here. So the first thing I would say, 189 00:07:47,745 --> 00:07:50,065 Speaker 3: I guess you need a sense of inspiration. So I 190 00:07:50,305 --> 00:07:52,865 Speaker 3: say Pinterest is a good source in terms of working 191 00:07:52,945 --> 00:07:54,625 Speaker 3: out what you like. So you know, I've got a 192 00:07:54,665 --> 00:07:56,265 Speaker 3: few Pinterest pages and I'll go through and I'll pin 193 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:58,025 Speaker 3: things that I love. And then when you go back 194 00:07:58,025 --> 00:07:59,705 Speaker 3: through your fold is you kind of be like, Okay, 195 00:07:59,825 --> 00:08:01,625 Speaker 3: these are the things I love, These are the vibes, 196 00:08:01,625 --> 00:08:03,545 Speaker 3: these are the shapes of the colors. I think it's 197 00:08:03,585 --> 00:08:06,425 Speaker 3: great to have celebrity crushes and people style that you love. Again, 198 00:08:06,545 --> 00:08:08,665 Speaker 3: go through those pages and be like, oh, I like 199 00:08:08,785 --> 00:08:10,705 Speaker 3: cas she's done that that day, that I love these pieces, 200 00:08:10,745 --> 00:08:13,025 Speaker 3: and start to get some ideas of your missing pieces 201 00:08:13,065 --> 00:08:15,065 Speaker 3: of what you can buy to achieve those looks. 202 00:08:15,345 --> 00:08:17,585 Speaker 1: So listen to start to get a common theme. Then, 203 00:08:17,625 --> 00:08:19,825 Speaker 1: don't you If you've saved enough or looked enough, you're like, oh, 204 00:08:20,265 --> 00:08:20,945 Speaker 1: maybe that's. 205 00:08:20,785 --> 00:08:24,065 Speaker 3: My shapes and colors and things that be like, okay, 206 00:08:24,145 --> 00:08:25,545 Speaker 3: this is what I want to shop for. But I 207 00:08:25,585 --> 00:08:28,905 Speaker 3: think most importantly too, is know your own wardrobe. I 208 00:08:28,985 --> 00:08:30,985 Speaker 3: think we're very much guilty of going out and buying 209 00:08:31,065 --> 00:08:33,345 Speaker 3: lots of things. But know what you have, know what 210 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:35,625 Speaker 3: your gaps are. Have you got those top fifteen things 211 00:08:35,665 --> 00:08:37,465 Speaker 3: that every woman should have in a wardrobe, because if 212 00:08:37,465 --> 00:08:39,625 Speaker 3: you don't, that should be your starting point. Have those 213 00:08:39,665 --> 00:08:42,945 Speaker 3: wardrobe essentials first. Got those great. Now we can get 214 00:08:42,985 --> 00:08:45,705 Speaker 3: some trend items or some pieces that you know you 215 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:48,505 Speaker 3: might see some celebrities wearing, but actually go into your 216 00:08:48,505 --> 00:08:50,825 Speaker 3: wardrobe first. Do the CuW get rid of the crap, 217 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:51,905 Speaker 3: get the weeds out of there. 218 00:08:52,025 --> 00:08:55,905 Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's like gardening you. That's such a good Get. 219 00:08:55,745 --> 00:08:58,065 Speaker 3: Those weeds out first. Then you've got to get the fertilizer. 220 00:08:58,225 --> 00:09:00,265 Speaker 3: And then you can have that beautiful grown garden. 221 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,105 Speaker 1: True, because if you've got to, like I'm thinking of 222 00:09:02,145 --> 00:09:03,585 Speaker 1: my wardrobe at the moment, if you've got a garden 223 00:09:03,625 --> 00:09:05,025 Speaker 1: full of weeds, you know it's a mess. It hasn't 224 00:09:05,065 --> 00:09:06,665 Speaker 1: been cleaned out, and I don't know what. You don't 225 00:09:06,705 --> 00:09:08,025 Speaker 1: know what's there. You don't want to go and play 226 00:09:08,065 --> 00:09:09,465 Speaker 1: in there. But once you've got all the weeds out, 227 00:09:09,465 --> 00:09:12,705 Speaker 1: it's it's a joyful place because what's left is valuable. 228 00:09:12,465 --> 00:09:14,345 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And then when shopping becomes so much 229 00:09:14,385 --> 00:09:15,905 Speaker 3: easier because you know what your gaps are and you 230 00:09:16,025 --> 00:09:17,465 Speaker 3: kind of got a bit of a plan. Now you 231 00:09:17,665 --> 00:09:20,105 Speaker 3: kind of thinking, Okay, if I want to create that 232 00:09:20,225 --> 00:09:21,865 Speaker 3: style of that celebrity, then I know I want to 233 00:09:21,865 --> 00:09:23,785 Speaker 3: buy these pieces, and I've got all my essential pieces, 234 00:09:24,185 --> 00:09:26,625 Speaker 3: and then you have this beautiful garden of clothes. 235 00:09:27,105 --> 00:09:28,985 Speaker 1: I'm going to use that analogy all the time. So 236 00:09:29,185 --> 00:09:32,705 Speaker 1: on that point of confidence, And you mentioned the essentials. 237 00:09:32,785 --> 00:09:34,865 Speaker 1: I think you said fifteen. Is is that a been 238 00:09:34,985 --> 00:09:35,465 Speaker 1: fast number? 239 00:09:35,945 --> 00:09:38,505 Speaker 3: Pretty much? I think so, yeah, it's really condense you 240 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:40,265 Speaker 3: and have fifteen things you good bye. I think it's 241 00:09:40,265 --> 00:09:41,305 Speaker 3: about fifteen essentials. 242 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:43,425 Speaker 1: And have you come up with that, I'm going to 243 00:09:43,465 --> 00:09:45,145 Speaker 1: ask you what a couple of them are in a mimument. 244 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:46,865 Speaker 1: But have you come up with that over your years 245 00:09:46,905 --> 00:09:49,265 Speaker 1: and years of taking real women shopping and what they're 246 00:09:49,305 --> 00:09:50,985 Speaker 1: missing and then what fills the holes? 247 00:09:51,105 --> 00:09:53,305 Speaker 3: Yeah, So whenever I do any style session, we sit 248 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:55,025 Speaker 3: down for a coffee first before we hit the shops, 249 00:09:55,025 --> 00:09:57,465 Speaker 3: and I'll actually say do you have these items? And 250 00:09:57,545 --> 00:09:59,305 Speaker 3: we'll go through so you know, your little black dress, 251 00:09:59,345 --> 00:10:01,145 Speaker 3: your white shirt, your pair of geen, your black planets, 252 00:10:01,185 --> 00:10:03,745 Speaker 3: your black skirt, blaser. You know, if you don't have 253 00:10:03,825 --> 00:10:05,825 Speaker 3: any of those, that is the first things we're going 254 00:10:05,865 --> 00:10:08,825 Speaker 3: to shop forcause they become the cornerstone of your wardrobe. 255 00:10:08,865 --> 00:10:11,065 Speaker 3: They are the glue, so anything else you buy will 256 00:10:11,145 --> 00:10:13,745 Speaker 3: stick with that. You'll always have something to wear. Then 257 00:10:13,745 --> 00:10:16,145 Speaker 3: when you're traveling, if you just pack those fifteen items 258 00:10:16,225 --> 00:10:17,545 Speaker 3: or so, boys got someone That is. 259 00:10:17,505 --> 00:10:19,985 Speaker 1: Such a good point when you meet with these clients. 260 00:10:20,025 --> 00:10:22,185 Speaker 1: Is it often that they don't have them, or you know, 261 00:10:22,465 --> 00:10:25,905 Speaker 1: enough combinations of them, or sometimes do they have just them? 262 00:10:26,145 --> 00:10:26,785 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 263 00:10:27,065 --> 00:10:29,505 Speaker 3: Actually shocked at how many pieces of women don't have 264 00:10:29,825 --> 00:10:31,825 Speaker 3: from those things because they seem so basic. You know, 265 00:10:32,185 --> 00:10:34,145 Speaker 3: for example, a classic white shirt. Most people like, oh, 266 00:10:34,185 --> 00:10:35,745 Speaker 3: white shirt, how boring. 267 00:10:35,905 --> 00:10:37,345 Speaker 1: Not fun to shop. Four heats don't have. 268 00:10:37,545 --> 00:10:39,305 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, I think where they If you work in 269 00:10:39,345 --> 00:10:40,985 Speaker 3: a business world, it's like, no, a white shirt you 270 00:10:41,025 --> 00:10:42,865 Speaker 3: could wear over a cozie, you could wear it open, 271 00:10:42,945 --> 00:10:45,305 Speaker 3: over a T shirt, you could layer it. So I 272 00:10:45,425 --> 00:10:47,545 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are missing those essential pieces. 273 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:49,705 Speaker 3: So when you shot for those and suddenly they've got them, 274 00:10:50,185 --> 00:10:51,025 Speaker 3: it's a game changer. 275 00:10:51,345 --> 00:10:55,025 Speaker 1: And now what about if those essentials are outdated? Not 276 00:10:55,105 --> 00:10:58,025 Speaker 1: saying that we have to follow every brand new trend exactly. 277 00:10:58,105 --> 00:11:00,385 Speaker 1: You know, I went through my black pants recently, and 278 00:11:01,025 --> 00:11:02,745 Speaker 1: black pants are a classic and a staple, but some 279 00:11:02,825 --> 00:11:04,665 Speaker 1: of them I was just like, you are not right 280 00:11:04,745 --> 00:11:07,985 Speaker 1: for me anymore. So do we have to update our staples? 281 00:11:08,225 --> 00:11:08,625 Speaker 2: I think so. 282 00:11:08,745 --> 00:11:10,665 Speaker 3: You know, like, for example, you know, classic black pants 283 00:11:10,665 --> 00:11:12,825 Speaker 3: you might have bought ten years ago. Right now you 284 00:11:12,905 --> 00:11:14,585 Speaker 3: might want something with a slightly wider leg or a 285 00:11:14,665 --> 00:11:17,025 Speaker 3: higher waist. Our bodies change over time. Right now, I 286 00:11:17,185 --> 00:11:19,545 Speaker 3: need a high waist, So it's absolutely perfect idea to 287 00:11:19,665 --> 00:11:21,425 Speaker 3: update your essential to everyone's in a while as your 288 00:11:21,465 --> 00:11:24,465 Speaker 3: body changes or your needs change. Absolutely yeah, I know it. 289 00:11:24,585 --> 00:11:26,425 Speaker 3: And jeans, I think jeans are one of those things 290 00:11:26,505 --> 00:11:28,625 Speaker 3: that always kind of changing too. So it's always good 291 00:11:28,625 --> 00:11:29,305 Speaker 3: to update your GM. 292 00:11:29,545 --> 00:11:31,625 Speaker 1: But don't throw away your skinnies because apparently they're still 293 00:11:31,665 --> 00:11:33,145 Speaker 1: coming back. I'm hearing you know what. 294 00:11:33,305 --> 00:11:35,425 Speaker 3: I swear. If I got a dollar for every time 295 00:11:35,745 --> 00:11:37,745 Speaker 3: I get asked and I used to wear my skinny jeans, 296 00:11:37,945 --> 00:11:38,825 Speaker 3: I would be rich. 297 00:11:38,985 --> 00:11:41,265 Speaker 1: And what's your answer, I say, if they. 298 00:11:41,265 --> 00:11:43,145 Speaker 3: Make you feel good, keep wearing. 299 00:11:43,265 --> 00:11:45,545 Speaker 1: I was going to say, if they make you feel confident, because. 300 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,865 Speaker 3: That's what fashion is all about. You know, I got 301 00:11:46,985 --> 00:11:49,505 Speaker 3: to admit, these wide pants don't do a lot for us. 302 00:11:49,505 --> 00:11:52,905 Speaker 3: They're adding bulk to our friends. So you know, if 303 00:11:52,945 --> 00:11:55,345 Speaker 3: the skinny jeen makes you feel good, keep wearing that 304 00:11:55,465 --> 00:11:58,025 Speaker 3: skinny jean, girlfriend, because seriously do it. 305 00:11:58,225 --> 00:12:00,585 Speaker 1: And because that goes to show again why your service 306 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:03,625 Speaker 1: is so valuable, because confidence is different to different people, 307 00:12:03,745 --> 00:12:06,465 Speaker 1: and confidence might not be you know, quote unquote looking 308 00:12:06,625 --> 00:12:09,145 Speaker 1: cool if you don't feel good, if you feel silly, 309 00:12:09,185 --> 00:12:10,505 Speaker 1: if you feel like it doesn't suit you. 310 00:12:10,705 --> 00:12:14,385 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I always say, don't follow trends just because it's 311 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,385 Speaker 3: a trend. If you don't love it, don't follow it. 312 00:12:16,825 --> 00:12:18,665 Speaker 3: You know, you have to love it. Your heart has 313 00:12:18,745 --> 00:12:20,465 Speaker 3: to love it because when you wear it, you want 314 00:12:20,505 --> 00:12:23,105 Speaker 3: to feel like you just feel with joy. So don't 315 00:12:23,145 --> 00:12:25,345 Speaker 3: wear things just because you know someone else is wearing it. 316 00:12:34,625 --> 00:12:38,385 Speaker 1: Getting a stylist can be intimidating or exclusive, but even 317 00:12:38,705 --> 00:12:41,585 Speaker 1: fashion and you know, caring about what you look like 318 00:12:41,745 --> 00:12:43,905 Speaker 1: can feel like you're vein or you don't know how. 319 00:12:44,465 --> 00:12:46,585 Speaker 1: You know it's for the fancy people, But how do 320 00:12:46,705 --> 00:12:49,305 Speaker 1: people shift that mindset to realize that everyone deserves to 321 00:12:50,225 --> 00:12:52,505 Speaker 1: enjoy getting dressed if they want to, or enjoy shopping, 322 00:12:52,585 --> 00:12:54,585 Speaker 1: or at least not hate it and be scared of it. 323 00:12:54,825 --> 00:12:56,505 Speaker 3: I think one of my mantre has always has been 324 00:12:56,625 --> 00:12:58,865 Speaker 3: is everyone does to look good and feel fabulous, and 325 00:12:58,905 --> 00:13:01,065 Speaker 3: no matter your age, your size, of your shopping budget, 326 00:13:01,105 --> 00:13:03,425 Speaker 3: I think that's really important. We all want to feel good, 327 00:13:03,465 --> 00:13:04,985 Speaker 3: we want to feel happy, we want to feel confident, 328 00:13:05,105 --> 00:13:07,385 Speaker 3: and clothes allow us to do that. We wear clothes 329 00:13:07,385 --> 00:13:09,545 Speaker 3: every day. Like you said earlier, our arm are in life. 330 00:13:09,985 --> 00:13:12,305 Speaker 1: It's illegal, not too unfortunately you know. 331 00:13:13,825 --> 00:13:17,985 Speaker 3: This colony correct do what you want, but otherwise you 332 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:19,985 Speaker 3: were in clothes every day. So it is important to 333 00:13:20,105 --> 00:13:22,705 Speaker 3: invest time into your clothes. Like think about how much 334 00:13:22,905 --> 00:13:26,025 Speaker 3: money we put into our hair, our nails, our tans 335 00:13:26,065 --> 00:13:29,385 Speaker 3: and that, and they're not really essential that the clothes are. Yeah, 336 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,825 Speaker 3: so if you just invested in the stylist once in 337 00:13:31,905 --> 00:13:35,345 Speaker 3: your lifetime, or even just a stylish friend or you know, 338 00:13:35,425 --> 00:13:36,945 Speaker 3: one of your gay mates who has a bit of 339 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:38,385 Speaker 3: you know, loves going shopping. 340 00:13:38,465 --> 00:13:40,545 Speaker 1: Now, just to have better ones to go shopping with. 341 00:13:40,665 --> 00:13:42,305 Speaker 1: I fine, because you don't both fall in love with 342 00:13:42,345 --> 00:13:43,745 Speaker 1: the same piece and go. But I want to wear 343 00:13:43,745 --> 00:13:44,665 Speaker 1: it to lunch on Saturday. 344 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:47,185 Speaker 3: And they'll tell you, and they'll tell you the truth, 345 00:13:47,345 --> 00:13:47,505 Speaker 3: you know. 346 00:13:48,465 --> 00:13:50,545 Speaker 1: So we've got a listener. Let's pretend this listener, or 347 00:13:50,625 --> 00:13:52,985 Speaker 1: anyone out there, wants to feel more confident, wants to 348 00:13:53,465 --> 00:13:56,225 Speaker 1: get the courage to care about what they wear or 349 00:13:56,265 --> 00:13:59,185 Speaker 1: to go shopping. Where did they start. Let's pretend they're 350 00:13:59,185 --> 00:14:01,505 Speaker 1: starting with a few key pieces, and we're talking about 351 00:14:01,545 --> 00:14:03,985 Speaker 1: sort of now autumn, going into the cooler months. What 352 00:14:04,065 --> 00:14:06,105 Speaker 1: would you say to look for in terms of shapes 353 00:14:06,225 --> 00:14:06,825 Speaker 1: or colors? 354 00:14:07,185 --> 00:14:09,065 Speaker 3: Okay, so I think right now it's time to start 355 00:14:09,105 --> 00:14:12,065 Speaker 3: getting refereed autumn. As you said, so must have is 356 00:14:12,145 --> 00:14:14,905 Speaker 3: a great coat. I think a coat is an absolutely 357 00:14:14,985 --> 00:14:17,705 Speaker 3: must have. A trench would be a great starting point 358 00:14:17,705 --> 00:14:20,025 Speaker 3: if you don't have a trench. A beautiful wrap style 359 00:14:20,105 --> 00:14:22,465 Speaker 3: coat as well, I mean cashme it would be the 360 00:14:22,545 --> 00:14:24,265 Speaker 3: dream if you want to invest in a cashmere coat. 361 00:14:24,305 --> 00:14:26,865 Speaker 3: So a good coat, a couple of beautiful knits. Obviously, 362 00:14:26,945 --> 00:14:30,105 Speaker 3: it's all that layering. So some beautiful knits, and I 363 00:14:30,145 --> 00:14:31,625 Speaker 3: think you want to keep warm in your lower halfs 364 00:14:31,625 --> 00:14:34,025 Speaker 3: there's some nice pants or maybe a nice knit dress 365 00:14:34,145 --> 00:14:36,265 Speaker 3: or something like that. So you know, three to four 366 00:14:36,385 --> 00:14:38,425 Speaker 3: pieces that you can layer and that will get you 367 00:14:38,505 --> 00:14:39,385 Speaker 3: through the cooler months. 368 00:14:39,465 --> 00:14:41,465 Speaker 1: Okay, what colors are you seeing for this autumn? 369 00:14:42,025 --> 00:14:44,465 Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of beautiful, rich burgundiers and those 370 00:14:44,505 --> 00:14:47,225 Speaker 3: beautiful deep reds, which are so gorgeous. 371 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:49,185 Speaker 1: I agree, they're pretty much fluttering on everyone. 372 00:14:49,305 --> 00:14:51,665 Speaker 3: They are. They really are such a beautiful color. And 373 00:14:51,705 --> 00:14:52,945 Speaker 3: so many different shades of it too. 374 00:14:53,345 --> 00:14:55,185 Speaker 1: Okay, and brown, here's singing brown everywhere. 375 00:14:55,305 --> 00:14:56,825 Speaker 3: I am seeing brown everywhere. 376 00:14:56,945 --> 00:14:58,985 Speaker 1: I've always liked brown, and then I thought I hated brown, 377 00:14:59,025 --> 00:15:00,705 Speaker 1: and now I love brown and such sheep. 378 00:15:00,985 --> 00:15:03,465 Speaker 3: I'm so into this chocolate right, give it to me 379 00:15:03,705 --> 00:15:05,905 Speaker 3: or shades, all flavors delicious. 380 00:15:06,225 --> 00:15:06,625 Speaker 1: I love it. 381 00:15:06,785 --> 00:15:08,145 Speaker 3: But again, as I said, it is a bit of 382 00:15:08,185 --> 00:15:09,785 Speaker 3: a trend. So I wouldn't go out and buy a 383 00:15:10,105 --> 00:15:12,825 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars brown coat. Good point. So this is 384 00:15:12,905 --> 00:15:16,225 Speaker 3: where you know, invest in those essentials that we spoke about. 385 00:15:16,465 --> 00:15:18,945 Speaker 3: But then the trend items like a brown coat that's 386 00:15:19,025 --> 00:15:22,025 Speaker 3: maybe Azara or something like that. I feel like more affordable. 387 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:25,145 Speaker 1: Now you take people shopping for a living like hello, 388 00:15:25,265 --> 00:15:26,465 Speaker 1: you spend other people's money. 389 00:15:26,585 --> 00:15:27,145 Speaker 3: It's the dream. 390 00:15:27,425 --> 00:15:29,385 Speaker 1: We're going to do some stores a bit later, and 391 00:15:29,465 --> 00:15:31,425 Speaker 1: why in bougie and budget. But I want to know 392 00:15:31,985 --> 00:15:34,105 Speaker 1: where do you take your clients? Where do you have 393 00:15:34,265 --> 00:15:37,545 Speaker 1: the most luck. It can be expensive, it can be affordable, 394 00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:40,625 Speaker 1: but perhaps they would normally go, oh I can't go 395 00:15:40,705 --> 00:15:42,665 Speaker 1: in there, or oh I wouldn't go in there. Okay, 396 00:15:42,905 --> 00:15:43,465 Speaker 1: tell me where you. 397 00:15:43,745 --> 00:15:46,265 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you know most ladies I'm peaking too. 398 00:15:46,265 --> 00:15:49,105 Speaker 3: Obviously it's their local Westfield, So you know key stores 399 00:15:49,545 --> 00:15:52,065 Speaker 3: to Cuba. For me, Strike Great is incredible, Like I 400 00:15:52,185 --> 00:15:54,985 Speaker 3: think Greed. I'll always come out with handfuls of stuff, 401 00:15:55,065 --> 00:15:55,905 Speaker 3: especially their genes. 402 00:15:56,025 --> 00:15:59,065 Speaker 1: Yes, and they're basic. I think it's like d Luxe. 403 00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:01,145 Speaker 3: Basic and Venim is the core of their brand. That's 404 00:16:01,185 --> 00:16:03,385 Speaker 3: where they began. So when a client says, I don't 405 00:16:03,425 --> 00:16:05,745 Speaker 3: have generl right to Cuba. Get the mecky gene. 406 00:16:05,785 --> 00:16:07,225 Speaker 1: Oh what I need to google that one. Do you 407 00:16:07,265 --> 00:16:09,585 Speaker 1: think that they've just better in the past few years 408 00:16:09,665 --> 00:16:10,905 Speaker 1: as well? It's always been a good base. 409 00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:14,105 Speaker 3: It's always absolutely really evolving. Their latest collection. Looking at 410 00:16:14,145 --> 00:16:16,825 Speaker 3: it's so fashion like you've got all the fashion colors. 411 00:16:16,905 --> 00:16:19,825 Speaker 3: So but they understand, especially the mum who just needs 412 00:16:19,825 --> 00:16:23,265 Speaker 3: something that's stylish but yet practical and versatile. Dress it up, 413 00:16:23,425 --> 00:16:25,785 Speaker 3: gool pickups, wear it out for dinner and that's what 414 00:16:25,905 --> 00:16:26,265 Speaker 3: we want. 415 00:16:26,505 --> 00:16:27,265 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so we. 416 00:16:28,105 --> 00:16:30,065 Speaker 3: Like to Cuba. This is a bit of a surprise one. 417 00:16:30,105 --> 00:16:32,945 Speaker 3: But the last month taking clients to sports Girl, and 418 00:16:33,065 --> 00:16:34,945 Speaker 3: you know, I'm taking women who are generally in there, 419 00:16:34,985 --> 00:16:38,225 Speaker 3: like thirties, forties, fifty and like not going in sports Girl. 420 00:16:38,265 --> 00:16:40,105 Speaker 3: And then when we get in there, amazing, like the 421 00:16:40,185 --> 00:16:42,425 Speaker 3: beautiful two piece sets. I want to say, giving me 422 00:16:42,505 --> 00:16:45,585 Speaker 3: other Ma vibes or the Lemon vibes without the price tag. 423 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:46,985 Speaker 1: And do you know why I love that? Because you 424 00:16:47,065 --> 00:16:48,425 Speaker 1: were and I a similar age and there was a 425 00:16:48,465 --> 00:16:50,505 Speaker 1: point where I saved up all my money to shop 426 00:16:50,545 --> 00:16:52,305 Speaker 1: at sports Girl and then I haven't really been in 427 00:16:52,425 --> 00:16:54,785 Speaker 1: there much lately, And yeah, I would think it's too 428 00:16:54,825 --> 00:16:55,985 Speaker 1: young for me or whatever. 429 00:16:56,345 --> 00:16:58,465 Speaker 3: They've got some great pieces of two piece sets Max. 430 00:16:58,825 --> 00:17:00,865 Speaker 3: So like we have these preconceived notions of brands, you've 431 00:17:00,865 --> 00:17:02,945 Speaker 3: got to let go of that and just shop everywhere. 432 00:17:03,025 --> 00:17:05,865 Speaker 3: So they're doing some fabulous things Portman's right now. I've 433 00:17:05,945 --> 00:17:08,545 Speaker 3: taken clients in there recently, some gorgeou stuff. I think 434 00:17:08,545 --> 00:17:10,505 Speaker 3: we had ideas of Portman's being very suity. 435 00:17:10,705 --> 00:17:13,785 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. It was definitely corporatety when all my friends 436 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:15,585 Speaker 1: were starting to be lawyers and I was starting out 437 00:17:15,625 --> 00:17:17,545 Speaker 1: in media, and then I thought, oh well, I don't 438 00:17:17,585 --> 00:17:18,505 Speaker 1: need a pencil skirt. 439 00:17:18,665 --> 00:17:20,625 Speaker 3: But some of the dresses that they're doing at the moment, 440 00:17:20,705 --> 00:17:23,465 Speaker 3: absolute phenomenal. Chic is another brand. I can always take 441 00:17:23,505 --> 00:17:25,705 Speaker 3: clients in. We'll always walk out with bags and stuff. 442 00:17:26,185 --> 00:17:30,105 Speaker 3: Forecast again Forecasts, very very under the radar, yes, but 443 00:17:30,265 --> 00:17:32,465 Speaker 3: again always finding beautiful things in there with clients. 444 00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,785 Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because I was looking for something 445 00:17:34,825 --> 00:17:36,585 Speaker 1: to wear all fancy event lately and I was on 446 00:17:36,665 --> 00:17:38,465 Speaker 1: the Iconic. Actually they saw it on the Iconic. They 447 00:17:38,465 --> 00:17:41,985 Speaker 1: do have something phenomenal pieces, very expensive. 448 00:17:42,665 --> 00:17:43,945 Speaker 3: Okay, they're doing some good things. 449 00:17:44,025 --> 00:17:45,625 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to pretend clients they've got a bit 450 00:17:45,665 --> 00:17:46,145 Speaker 1: more money. 451 00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:48,865 Speaker 3: Where are we going? Okay, So I think into that 452 00:17:48,945 --> 00:17:51,625 Speaker 3: next kind of little shelf up Country Road of some 453 00:17:51,785 --> 00:17:55,265 Speaker 3: beautiful things, some leather pieces that are just absolutely divine 454 00:17:55,305 --> 00:17:58,665 Speaker 3: at the moment. Have you shopped in control a Look. 455 00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:01,025 Speaker 1: There's a skirt I really want to leather, like almost 456 00:18:01,105 --> 00:18:02,025 Speaker 1: like a circle skirt. 457 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:03,105 Speaker 3: Beautiful. 458 00:18:03,145 --> 00:18:04,985 Speaker 1: Will I get enough? We're out of it? No, I'll 459 00:18:04,985 --> 00:18:07,825 Speaker 1: probably buy an inspired by piece, yeah, Country Road. 460 00:18:08,865 --> 00:18:10,265 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I think, you know, if you want 461 00:18:10,305 --> 00:18:12,505 Speaker 3: to start speaking at some gorgeous designers like me in 462 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:15,665 Speaker 3: a beautiful Alime two piece set just for something color. 463 00:18:15,945 --> 00:18:19,585 Speaker 3: I'm all about color and prints that spark joy and Alime. 464 00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:21,265 Speaker 3: I look at their pieces and it makes me happy. 465 00:18:21,425 --> 00:18:23,305 Speaker 3: I don't know they just if you just had one piece, 466 00:18:23,545 --> 00:18:26,265 Speaker 3: beautiful two piece set from alame gorgeous and they were 467 00:18:26,305 --> 00:18:28,985 Speaker 3: just in a new white Lotus, alamee and is in 468 00:18:29,025 --> 00:18:32,625 Speaker 3: them and both appear the new white Lotus, the designers 469 00:18:32,665 --> 00:18:34,665 Speaker 3: a snag a piece before they prot price. 470 00:18:34,825 --> 00:18:36,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like that you said two piece set 471 00:18:36,465 --> 00:18:39,505 Speaker 1: because you're I can tell you're thinking versatility as a. 472 00:18:39,545 --> 00:18:42,105 Speaker 3: Set where them are separates, you put them together. It's 473 00:18:42,145 --> 00:18:45,625 Speaker 3: just easy. It's polished and people be like, oh Aliae, yeah, 474 00:18:45,665 --> 00:18:46,825 Speaker 3: go girl, I love that. 475 00:18:47,265 --> 00:18:49,745 Speaker 1: So, like I said before, you do have sort of 476 00:18:49,785 --> 00:18:51,745 Speaker 1: two sides of the coin to your job. You dress 477 00:18:51,905 --> 00:18:55,385 Speaker 1: what I would say, fancy celebrities and fancy you know, events, 478 00:18:55,505 --> 00:18:59,265 Speaker 1: and then you more everyday people that aren't celebrities. Do 479 00:18:59,425 --> 00:19:02,705 Speaker 1: they ever have anything in common? You know? Is it 480 00:19:02,865 --> 00:19:04,385 Speaker 1: so weird or is it similar? 481 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:08,385 Speaker 3: Regardless if they are a list Hollywood celebrity or every 482 00:19:08,545 --> 00:19:10,425 Speaker 3: busy mom, one thing they have in commedies. They both 483 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:13,065 Speaker 3: have insecurities. And we often look at these gorgeous celebrities 484 00:19:13,065 --> 00:19:14,945 Speaker 3: and say, oh my god, they are perfect. They must 485 00:19:15,025 --> 00:19:18,105 Speaker 3: be so happy they can wear anything. No, I feel 486 00:19:18,145 --> 00:19:21,945 Speaker 3: they almost have more insecurities than every day people, maybe 487 00:19:21,945 --> 00:19:24,225 Speaker 3: because they are in that limelight and they know there 488 00:19:24,305 --> 00:19:27,265 Speaker 3: are millions of people watching everything that they do. But 489 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:29,905 Speaker 3: you know, it's just a great reminder that we all 490 00:19:29,985 --> 00:19:32,225 Speaker 3: have insecurities, we all have things about our bodies we 491 00:19:32,265 --> 00:19:35,185 Speaker 3: don't like. Really, it is any opener and eye. 492 00:19:35,065 --> 00:19:36,585 Speaker 1: Open as good. I was gonna say, that's really nice 493 00:19:36,585 --> 00:19:38,305 Speaker 1: to hear, which it's not, because I don't want anyone 494 00:19:38,385 --> 00:19:40,345 Speaker 1: to feel that way, but yes, you can feel very 495 00:19:40,425 --> 00:19:42,345 Speaker 1: us in them. And you know, we both are on 496 00:19:42,425 --> 00:19:44,425 Speaker 1: social media and could sometimes. You know, our lives are 497 00:19:44,465 --> 00:19:47,385 Speaker 1: very glamorous and not as glamorous as it less celebrities. 498 00:19:47,465 --> 00:19:49,625 Speaker 1: But everyone is human. 499 00:19:49,625 --> 00:19:52,505 Speaker 3: Absolutely, They're all humans. They have emotions and they definitely 500 00:19:52,745 --> 00:19:55,585 Speaker 3: have insecurity as well. So regardless if it's a celebrity, 501 00:19:55,665 --> 00:19:58,665 Speaker 3: every day mum, I'll always begin with a briefing session 502 00:19:58,665 --> 00:20:00,945 Speaker 3: and chat to find out what they're comfortable in. Even 503 00:20:00,985 --> 00:20:02,705 Speaker 3: a celebrity, I'll ask you, what parts of your body 504 00:20:02,745 --> 00:20:03,945 Speaker 3: do you love them most of the parts that you 505 00:20:04,025 --> 00:20:06,705 Speaker 3: may not like as much, And I factor that intout Bee, 506 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:08,345 Speaker 3: because if you're going to walk down a red carpet, 507 00:20:08,865 --> 00:20:11,465 Speaker 3: I'll want them to own that red carp and feel amazing. Stuff. 508 00:20:11,465 --> 00:20:13,425 Speaker 3: I'll put it in something that's hiding all their best 509 00:20:13,465 --> 00:20:16,345 Speaker 3: assets and accentuating parts they don't like. You're going to 510 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:18,625 Speaker 3: see them walking down the red carpet like looking really nervous. 511 00:20:18,665 --> 00:20:21,665 Speaker 1: And so it's the same for strutting into school pickup. 512 00:20:21,705 --> 00:20:23,585 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. You want to state school pick up and 513 00:20:23,665 --> 00:20:25,865 Speaker 3: be like, damn y, yeah she looks amazing. 514 00:20:26,145 --> 00:20:28,225 Speaker 1: So confidence is at the root of everything you do, 515 00:20:28,345 --> 00:20:28,825 Speaker 1: no matter. 516 00:20:28,705 --> 00:20:30,945 Speaker 3: Who it is, exactly, And I always ask those same 517 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:32,825 Speaker 3: questions right at the beginning. Doesn't matter if they're a 518 00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,505 Speaker 3: celebrity or an every day month because I really want 519 00:20:34,545 --> 00:20:36,825 Speaker 3: to get inside their head to understand how can I 520 00:20:36,905 --> 00:20:39,025 Speaker 3: make them feel amazing, What pieces kind of put on 521 00:20:39,065 --> 00:20:41,185 Speaker 3: them that they're just going to love and feel empowered. 522 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:42,745 Speaker 1: Totally, And back to your point before we all have 523 00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:45,305 Speaker 1: to wear clothes every day. We don't have to spend 524 00:20:45,465 --> 00:20:47,025 Speaker 1: a huge amount of money. You know, we can still 525 00:20:47,025 --> 00:20:48,705 Speaker 1: be on a tight budget, but we can feel good. 526 00:20:48,905 --> 00:20:49,465 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 527 00:20:49,705 --> 00:21:05,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very expensive. How wondred these twenty five percent? 528 00:21:07,425 --> 00:21:10,225 Speaker 1: So we thought we'd do some stores already drilled you 529 00:21:10,345 --> 00:21:11,985 Speaker 1: on that. But do you want to do that? Because 530 00:21:11,985 --> 00:21:14,785 Speaker 1: I've got two not unexpected ones, but I've got a 531 00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:16,705 Speaker 1: bougie store that I'm loving what they're doing for this 532 00:21:16,825 --> 00:21:18,265 Speaker 1: autumn winter and a budget one. 533 00:21:18,385 --> 00:21:19,385 Speaker 3: Okay, give it to me. 534 00:21:19,505 --> 00:21:22,945 Speaker 1: Okay, My budget is Target because as we know, you know, 535 00:21:23,265 --> 00:21:25,505 Speaker 1: Kmart had to glow up, Target had to go up. 536 00:21:25,505 --> 00:21:27,905 Speaker 1: Big W's just had to go up. The Target's autumn 537 00:21:27,905 --> 00:21:30,545 Speaker 1: winter range now is pretty phenomenal. All three of those 538 00:21:30,745 --> 00:21:33,345 Speaker 1: stores I was in there the other day right are 539 00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:34,665 Speaker 1: used to you know, I would always do a bit 540 00:21:34,705 --> 00:21:36,585 Speaker 1: of Target, particularly having a son. Some came out in 541 00:21:36,625 --> 00:21:39,065 Speaker 1: Big W but now all three of them. I'm going 542 00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,345 Speaker 1: to the women's section and I'm blown away. 543 00:21:41,585 --> 00:21:43,825 Speaker 3: It is amazing. Target. The other day I saw they've 544 00:21:43,865 --> 00:21:47,705 Speaker 3: got a faux leather trench. Oh my goodness, it is 545 00:21:48,025 --> 00:21:50,745 Speaker 3: just beautiful. And this hu's access through John if you 546 00:21:50,825 --> 00:21:52,105 Speaker 3: got to that section. But I was. 547 00:21:53,225 --> 00:21:58,105 Speaker 1: I bought forty dollars real suede loafers from Target. They're 548 00:21:58,105 --> 00:21:59,025 Speaker 1: coming black and beige. 549 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:02,225 Speaker 3: They are killing much. They're very comfortable and define the 550 00:22:02,265 --> 00:22:04,945 Speaker 3: men's section. I had a client she likes oversized blazers, 551 00:22:04,985 --> 00:22:07,465 Speaker 3: and she bought some men's blazers from the Target section. 552 00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:10,145 Speaker 3: So a lot of women love that there will be 553 00:22:10,185 --> 00:22:11,425 Speaker 3: more size and unstructured. 554 00:22:11,905 --> 00:22:13,385 Speaker 1: And I go thrifting all the time and look at 555 00:22:13,385 --> 00:22:14,785 Speaker 1: them in section, but I never thought to go to 556 00:22:14,865 --> 00:22:16,265 Speaker 1: cam up, Big W or Target. Man. 557 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:18,545 Speaker 3: Yes, so check it out. Don't sleep on that people. 558 00:22:18,705 --> 00:22:19,465 Speaker 3: It is incredible. 559 00:22:19,585 --> 00:22:21,665 Speaker 1: I've got to go and my bougie. You know, it's 560 00:22:21,705 --> 00:22:24,465 Speaker 1: not outrageous, but it's more expensive than those stores. Is 561 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:28,145 Speaker 1: seed this season. I've always loved seeds, dip in and out. 562 00:22:28,225 --> 00:22:30,305 Speaker 1: I find that there's summers maybe a bit too linen 563 00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:33,145 Speaker 1: near for me. But like we said, the rich chocolates, 564 00:22:33,345 --> 00:22:36,825 Speaker 1: the Burgundies, there's furry texture, there's velvet. 565 00:22:37,065 --> 00:22:37,985 Speaker 3: Oh yes, love it. 566 00:22:38,185 --> 00:22:41,625 Speaker 1: The suede. I am so back in love with seed. 567 00:22:41,665 --> 00:22:43,025 Speaker 1: I'm saving up for a pair of shoes. They're not 568 00:22:43,185 --> 00:22:46,025 Speaker 1: extremely expensive, but I don't need another pair of shoes. 569 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:48,185 Speaker 1: But I bought some fifty dollars Sunnies from them, their 570 00:22:48,265 --> 00:22:51,225 Speaker 1: new autumn collection. They're just a big, simple sunglass but 571 00:22:51,305 --> 00:22:53,705 Speaker 1: with sort of a It was called Rainforest. It's kind 572 00:22:53,745 --> 00:22:55,905 Speaker 1: of like an olive green frame. And I've never had 573 00:22:55,985 --> 00:22:58,745 Speaker 1: more comments on a pair of Sunnies and now fifty bucks. 574 00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:02,865 Speaker 3: Accessories really are the best way to up that your outfit. 575 00:23:02,945 --> 00:23:04,265 Speaker 3: I must say, do you get to that point with you? 576 00:23:04,385 --> 00:23:06,265 Speaker 3: I do yea, yeah, absolutely, because I think accessories are 577 00:23:06,305 --> 00:23:07,985 Speaker 3: the frosting on the cake. And it's a part of 578 00:23:07,985 --> 00:23:09,625 Speaker 3: the love of struggle with thought. Because we're busy, man, 579 00:23:09,785 --> 00:23:11,545 Speaker 3: you're running around. It's like the last thing we have 580 00:23:11,625 --> 00:23:13,105 Speaker 3: time adding those accessories. 581 00:23:13,105 --> 00:23:16,385 Speaker 1: But it feels optional, but it's actually sometimes the easiest. 582 00:23:16,425 --> 00:23:18,785 Speaker 3: And people know, I noticed your necklace soon as I 583 00:23:18,825 --> 00:23:19,145 Speaker 3: walked in. 584 00:23:19,345 --> 00:23:21,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was literally running back in the house 585 00:23:21,225 --> 00:23:23,705 Speaker 1: because I was like, God, I basically so plain. 586 00:23:23,625 --> 00:23:25,345 Speaker 3: It's like the frosting on the cake. And I really 587 00:23:25,425 --> 00:23:27,225 Speaker 3: noticed that, so taking those few extra moments in the 588 00:23:27,225 --> 00:23:30,425 Speaker 3: morn ad that frosting. But also like we're like magpies, right, 589 00:23:30,465 --> 00:23:32,945 Speaker 3: we are literally drawn to anything shiny or blingy. So 590 00:23:32,985 --> 00:23:35,105 Speaker 3: that's exactly what my eyes went to. So I always say, 591 00:23:35,105 --> 00:23:37,145 Speaker 3: if you are feelings, they self conscious about you know, 592 00:23:37,225 --> 00:23:40,225 Speaker 3: our tummy section, if you wore that nice big statementeering 593 00:23:40,265 --> 00:23:42,425 Speaker 3: you've shifted the focus up here and away from our 594 00:23:42,465 --> 00:23:43,225 Speaker 3: area of concern. 595 00:23:43,545 --> 00:23:46,065 Speaker 1: True, and your handbag always fits, your sunglasses always fits you. 596 00:23:46,105 --> 00:23:47,505 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what your body's doing. 597 00:23:47,785 --> 00:23:51,505 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So accessories always is the perfect way to finish 598 00:23:51,505 --> 00:23:53,385 Speaker 3: off the outfit but draw the attention away from our 599 00:23:53,465 --> 00:23:54,265 Speaker 3: areas of concern. 600 00:23:54,505 --> 00:23:56,945 Speaker 1: So you I'll ask you where you're like shopping for accessories, 601 00:23:56,985 --> 00:23:59,545 Speaker 1: then look, it can just be somewhere as affordable as Levisa. 602 00:23:59,745 --> 00:24:01,705 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they just don't wear things. Target even have 603 00:24:01,785 --> 00:24:03,865 Speaker 3: some great things in their jeury section, and their bags 604 00:24:03,905 --> 00:24:04,865 Speaker 3: are amazing as well. 605 00:24:05,465 --> 00:24:07,905 Speaker 1: Levisa does a waterproof collection, which you think is you know, 606 00:24:08,025 --> 00:24:09,905 Speaker 1: for summer and swimming and if you're going you're but 607 00:24:09,985 --> 00:24:12,065 Speaker 1: I honestly just live in it and shower because I'm 608 00:24:12,145 --> 00:24:13,505 Speaker 1: lazy and it does not tarnish. 609 00:24:13,625 --> 00:24:16,265 Speaker 3: And all these really beautiful sculptural gold earrings that are 610 00:24:16,265 --> 00:24:18,265 Speaker 3: at the moment to Cuba have them and they are 611 00:24:18,465 --> 00:24:20,505 Speaker 3: like twenty thirty bucks and they are phenomenal. 612 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,105 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can keep rocking that a way. 613 00:24:22,665 --> 00:24:24,145 Speaker 1: Can you tell me we're anywhere else? Do you like 614 00:24:24,185 --> 00:24:26,145 Speaker 1: to go shopping? Or am I really putting you off thee? 615 00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:28,745 Speaker 3: No? I think I kind of nailed nailed. 616 00:24:29,265 --> 00:24:31,345 Speaker 1: Do you do the big h and ms and Zara's 617 00:24:31,465 --> 00:24:31,985 Speaker 1: Oh of course? 618 00:24:32,025 --> 00:24:34,865 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean I think that I 619 00:24:34,865 --> 00:24:36,345 Speaker 3: actually did a post the other day and it's kind 620 00:24:36,385 --> 00:24:38,025 Speaker 3: of gone a little bit of viral. But I went 621 00:24:38,105 --> 00:24:41,625 Speaker 3: into Zara and I was just horrified what was available, 622 00:24:41,665 --> 00:24:45,345 Speaker 3: Like it was bad Boho, the Ruffles, the Prince. I 623 00:24:45,545 --> 00:24:47,865 Speaker 3: was shocked. I was like a beginning April falls right 624 00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,385 Speaker 3: that we're getting punked by Zara. 625 00:24:49,625 --> 00:24:52,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, and very seasoned. Some stores are stronger than another. 626 00:24:53,185 --> 00:24:54,865 Speaker 3: It does, but it goes through phases like I'll go 627 00:24:54,945 --> 00:24:56,385 Speaker 3: back in a month and most of that stuff has 628 00:24:56,385 --> 00:24:58,785 Speaker 3: probably gone and some new stuff will hopefully be better. Yes, 629 00:24:59,345 --> 00:25:01,945 Speaker 3: and are of course always got some great things quite 630 00:25:01,945 --> 00:25:04,705 Speaker 3: an especially around summer when they start doing their swim 631 00:25:04,785 --> 00:25:07,585 Speaker 3: where their beach cover ups and stuff like that. Absolute 632 00:25:07,705 --> 00:25:09,985 Speaker 3: chef's kiss, definitely, Donnie. 633 00:25:09,985 --> 00:25:11,465 Speaker 1: Do you know what else I love about your philosophy. 634 00:25:11,545 --> 00:25:13,905 Speaker 1: What I've taken from this is that confidence doesn't mean 635 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:15,465 Speaker 1: you need to have a lot or spend a lot 636 00:25:15,505 --> 00:25:15,905 Speaker 1: of money. 637 00:25:16,265 --> 00:25:16,905 Speaker 3: Absolutely no. 638 00:25:17,025 --> 00:25:20,145 Speaker 1: And that's just so relatable and so refreshing to hear. 639 00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:22,505 Speaker 3: I think. I mean, growing up and Dad was a 640 00:25:22,545 --> 00:25:24,825 Speaker 3: boiler maker, we didn't have a lot of money. I 641 00:25:24,865 --> 00:25:26,545 Speaker 3: remember Mum would take a shopping and we'd get a 642 00:25:26,545 --> 00:25:29,065 Speaker 3: best and lesson places like that. But as a young boy, 643 00:25:29,105 --> 00:25:31,625 Speaker 3: I was always fascinated about pulling out fits together, watching 644 00:25:31,705 --> 00:25:33,945 Speaker 3: mum a bit of a s interest making things and 645 00:25:34,185 --> 00:25:36,825 Speaker 3: how she just add this finesse and polish to her clothes. 646 00:25:37,305 --> 00:25:40,385 Speaker 3: Growing up having background, there's a saying called loudbella feel good, 647 00:25:40,465 --> 00:25:43,105 Speaker 3: which means you try to look put together and nice, 648 00:25:43,265 --> 00:25:45,145 Speaker 3: even if you just going to the local shops or 649 00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:47,225 Speaker 3: just putting some effort in. And I think that's always 650 00:25:47,265 --> 00:25:47,825 Speaker 3: just stuck with me. 651 00:25:48,025 --> 00:25:50,385 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes so much sense because I can 652 00:25:50,425 --> 00:25:51,985 Speaker 1: see you in forty years and you'll be the most 653 00:25:52,065 --> 00:25:58,065 Speaker 1: polished old Italian a man a cafe. Yes, honestly no, 654 00:25:58,145 --> 00:26:00,785 Speaker 1: you're such a joy to all Australian women that you 655 00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:03,145 Speaker 1: help shop and around the world. What's your Instagram handle? 656 00:26:03,425 --> 00:26:05,945 Speaker 3: It is just at Donnie Gillella Easy. 657 00:26:06,105 --> 00:26:08,625 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me, Thanks for having me, 658 00:26:09,145 --> 00:26:11,545 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget to 659 00:26:11,585 --> 00:26:13,425 Speaker 1: sign up to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. 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