1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:20,504 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,424 --> 00:00:28,504 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this spill your daily pop 5 00:00:28,544 --> 00:00:29,304 Speaker 2: culture fixed. 6 00:00:29,504 --> 00:00:33,024 Speaker 3: I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick, and we today 7 00:00:33,304 --> 00:00:37,384 Speaker 3: have a very very special episode. This has been requested 8 00:00:37,784 --> 00:00:40,744 Speaker 3: so many times. We're finally going to do it. Here 9 00:00:40,984 --> 00:00:45,224 Speaker 3: is our brutally honest review of the series, the hit. 10 00:00:45,184 --> 00:00:46,344 Speaker 2: Drama dy dramedy. 11 00:00:46,544 --> 00:00:47,184 Speaker 1: Did you call it? 12 00:00:47,824 --> 00:00:51,584 Speaker 2: Bump? Every human life starts right here? 13 00:00:51,784 --> 00:00:57,344 Speaker 3: So strange matter record, Ollie, you can't keep looking at this. 14 00:00:58,024 --> 00:01:01,424 Speaker 3: Holy You're going through some major life events and I 15 00:01:01,424 --> 00:01:02,264 Speaker 3: want to hear about them. 16 00:01:02,384 --> 00:01:03,064 Speaker 2: Check this out. 17 00:01:04,544 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 1: Here we go. What happened to your job interviews? No 18 00:01:08,104 --> 00:01:10,224 Speaker 1: one's going to hire me because I'm pregnant and you're sick. 19 00:01:10,624 --> 00:01:13,544 Speaker 2: It's just a lot happening. Are you regretting getting pregnant? 20 00:01:15,304 --> 00:01:16,944 Speaker 2: I don't know how to answer that today. 21 00:01:17,424 --> 00:01:20,824 Speaker 3: So Bump is a show on Stan and recently the 22 00:01:20,864 --> 00:01:24,304 Speaker 3: final and fifth season was released, So there's been five 23 00:01:24,344 --> 00:01:26,944 Speaker 3: seasons all up, and we decided to do a brillly 24 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:30,184 Speaker 3: honest review looking back at the entire show, but also 25 00:01:30,504 --> 00:01:33,104 Speaker 3: everything that happened in season five itself. 26 00:01:33,584 --> 00:01:36,464 Speaker 1: Yes, because the stand original series Bump has been with 27 00:01:36,544 --> 00:01:38,864 Speaker 1: us for such a long time, but also just the 28 00:01:38,864 --> 00:01:42,384 Speaker 1: time of year it drops, because for five years, like clockwork, 29 00:01:42,504 --> 00:01:46,264 Speaker 1: it's dropped in that holiday break, New Year's Day, hazy 30 00:01:46,304 --> 00:01:48,304 Speaker 1: time when you're just looking for something. You're spending time 31 00:01:48,304 --> 00:01:50,064 Speaker 1: with your family, but maybe you need a break from them, 32 00:01:50,344 --> 00:01:52,024 Speaker 1: and the series drops and you get to kind of 33 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:54,544 Speaker 1: go back into that world for a while. So it 34 00:01:54,624 --> 00:01:56,784 Speaker 1: started in twenty twenty one and so coming to an 35 00:01:56,864 --> 00:01:58,424 Speaker 1: end this year, I think a lot of people felt that, 36 00:01:58,464 --> 00:02:00,064 Speaker 1: and you and I were getting a lot of dms 37 00:02:00,464 --> 00:02:03,024 Speaker 1: from spillers saying I just watched the final episode. I 38 00:02:03,024 --> 00:02:05,464 Speaker 1: feel very emotional. Can you do a brillly honest review? 39 00:02:05,784 --> 00:02:08,064 Speaker 1: So here we are. If you're not familiar with our 40 00:02:08,104 --> 00:02:12,504 Speaker 1: brilly honest review format, it's us giving our complete, honest, 41 00:02:12,664 --> 00:02:15,824 Speaker 1: unfiltered thoughts on a TV show or movie that we 42 00:02:15,864 --> 00:02:18,704 Speaker 1: absolutely love. We know you guys love, but we also 43 00:02:18,784 --> 00:02:21,384 Speaker 1: go hard on the ending. So if you haven't watched 44 00:02:21,384 --> 00:02:23,904 Speaker 1: it and you don't want spoilers, go to Stan and 45 00:02:23,984 --> 00:02:26,184 Speaker 1: watch all five seasons of Bump, Because we are going 46 00:02:26,224 --> 00:02:27,944 Speaker 1: to spoil the ending and then come on back here 47 00:02:27,984 --> 00:02:32,144 Speaker 1: and listen to us. So season one, this is just 48 00:02:32,184 --> 00:02:34,304 Speaker 1: to kind of go back to the beginning. One of 49 00:02:34,304 --> 00:02:36,704 Speaker 1: the best pilot episodes I've seen on a TV show, 50 00:02:36,784 --> 00:02:38,704 Speaker 1: just because of how it kind of brings the story 51 00:02:38,744 --> 00:02:41,384 Speaker 1: together and the hook that it gives you. So obviously, 52 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:42,744 Speaker 1: the entire. 53 00:02:42,544 --> 00:02:46,064 Speaker 2: First episode of season one felt like a Mum and 54 00:02:46,144 --> 00:02:46,744 Speaker 2: mea article. 55 00:02:47,104 --> 00:02:50,384 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. There's a lot of elements in there 56 00:02:50,384 --> 00:02:52,224 Speaker 1: of things that I was scared about as a young 57 00:02:52,264 --> 00:02:54,624 Speaker 1: adult and then realize very rare for this to happen. 58 00:02:54,944 --> 00:02:57,824 Speaker 1: So the story is hooked on the Charmers Davis family. 59 00:02:57,984 --> 00:03:00,984 Speaker 1: So you've got Olympia. No One has Ollie, who in 60 00:03:01,024 --> 00:03:04,104 Speaker 1: the first season is a very high achieving high school student. 61 00:03:04,424 --> 00:03:07,384 Speaker 1: Her mom, Angie, played by Claudia carbon who was also 62 00:03:07,424 --> 00:03:09,704 Speaker 1: a co creator of the show, which is important to Mate, 63 00:03:10,744 --> 00:03:14,544 Speaker 1: is so brilliant, is the principal of the school. She's 64 00:03:14,584 --> 00:03:18,184 Speaker 1: separated from her husband, Dom, Ollie's father played by Anger Sampson, 65 00:03:18,224 --> 00:03:19,304 Speaker 1: who's just so brilliant in this. 66 00:03:19,504 --> 00:03:21,544 Speaker 2: It's really good in the Insidious movies. 67 00:03:22,904 --> 00:03:25,904 Speaker 1: Emily got really star struck at the Last Bump premiere 68 00:03:25,984 --> 00:03:28,344 Speaker 1: because anger. Sampson was in front of us and I 69 00:03:28,384 --> 00:03:30,144 Speaker 1: was like, it's Dom from Bump and you were like, 70 00:03:30,184 --> 00:03:34,304 Speaker 1: it's the guy from a city. So he's very versatile actor. 71 00:03:34,624 --> 00:03:37,464 Speaker 1: They have another son, Bowie, who's older, and so the 72 00:03:37,544 --> 00:03:39,984 Speaker 1: first season starts off with Ollie, who's you know, under 73 00:03:39,984 --> 00:03:42,224 Speaker 1: pressured school and really trying to sort of, you know, 74 00:03:42,424 --> 00:03:43,504 Speaker 1: really sudden her future. 75 00:03:43,624 --> 00:03:46,024 Speaker 3: She's a greade, a student in year eleven, and she's 76 00:03:46,104 --> 00:03:47,504 Speaker 3: like a goodie two shoes. 77 00:03:47,544 --> 00:03:49,344 Speaker 1: Yes, very much so. And then she starts to get 78 00:03:49,384 --> 00:03:51,944 Speaker 1: some pains and then the pains intensify and. 79 00:03:52,104 --> 00:03:55,704 Speaker 3: Just every young woman's or single woman's or childish woman's 80 00:03:55,784 --> 00:03:56,384 Speaker 3: biggest bear. 81 00:03:56,744 --> 00:03:58,704 Speaker 1: Yes, when I was growing up, I feel like a 82 00:03:58,784 --> 00:04:01,784 Speaker 1: surprise pregnancy seemed a lot more likely than it would. 83 00:04:01,784 --> 00:04:03,584 Speaker 1: There were so many articles, you know, all his girlfriend 84 00:04:03,664 --> 00:04:06,304 Speaker 1: Lat's life kind of magazines were always like this girl 85 00:04:06,304 --> 00:04:08,544 Speaker 1: didn't know she was pregnant until she walked into the bathroom, 86 00:04:08,544 --> 00:04:09,944 Speaker 1: and I was like, holy hell, that sounds like something 87 00:04:09,944 --> 00:04:14,664 Speaker 1: to worry. It's very rare. So Olie goes into the bathroom. Happened, Yes, 88 00:04:14,744 --> 00:04:18,304 Speaker 1: there are reports of it. Interestingly, the show was initially 89 00:04:18,384 --> 00:04:21,344 Speaker 1: created by Kelsey Munro, who was a journalist turned TV 90 00:04:21,464 --> 00:04:25,424 Speaker 1: maker and she pictures the idea to some producers and 91 00:04:25,464 --> 00:04:28,024 Speaker 1: they said, oh yeah, Claudia Carvin will be not only 92 00:04:28,064 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 1: great for the role of Angie, but would want to 93 00:04:30,144 --> 00:04:32,344 Speaker 1: work on this project. And Claudia really did and became 94 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:35,304 Speaker 1: the co creator the series. But interestingly, she said something 95 00:04:35,344 --> 00:04:37,584 Speaker 1: similar had happened to a girl at her daughter's school, 96 00:04:37,864 --> 00:04:40,544 Speaker 1: so she felt a real personal connection to the material 97 00:04:40,624 --> 00:04:42,384 Speaker 1: and how it has this flaw and effect, not just 98 00:04:42,424 --> 00:04:44,904 Speaker 1: to the girl it happens too, obviously, but to her 99 00:04:44,944 --> 00:04:47,824 Speaker 1: family in the school community. And what happens. So Olie's 100 00:04:47,824 --> 00:04:49,664 Speaker 1: in the bathroom, she's having a lot of pain. They 101 00:04:49,704 --> 00:04:52,224 Speaker 1: call an ambulance, and this girl, who had no idea 102 00:04:52,264 --> 00:04:54,424 Speaker 1: she was pregnant, a baby comes forth. 103 00:04:55,424 --> 00:04:58,784 Speaker 3: It is the most wildest kind of film, especially that 104 00:04:58,824 --> 00:05:02,064 Speaker 3: close up on her face, like you see the pain, 105 00:05:02,224 --> 00:05:04,024 Speaker 3: you see like, what the hell's going on, and then 106 00:05:04,064 --> 00:05:07,544 Speaker 3: you see her like the realization of what's happened. 107 00:05:07,784 --> 00:05:11,624 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And it's very visceral scene too, because there's 108 00:05:11,664 --> 00:05:13,944 Speaker 1: shots of blood and things in the bathroom, and then 109 00:05:13,984 --> 00:05:16,704 Speaker 1: it's quite graphic in the ambulance, not graphic in our 110 00:05:16,904 --> 00:05:18,704 Speaker 1: you know, showing lots of blood and gore kind of way, 111 00:05:18,704 --> 00:05:20,944 Speaker 1: but just the distress and the pain this poor girl 112 00:05:21,024 --> 00:05:23,544 Speaker 1: was in and then getting to the hospital and seeing 113 00:05:23,544 --> 00:05:26,744 Speaker 1: the aftermath of this surprise baby appear, and then everyone 114 00:05:26,864 --> 00:05:30,184 Speaker 1: thinks it's her high school boyfriend Lucky. Yes, Lucky, I 115 00:05:30,224 --> 00:05:31,944 Speaker 1: love when he came back in the last season the 116 00:05:32,144 --> 00:05:35,344 Speaker 1: little cameo. But it's actually bad boy. 117 00:05:35,464 --> 00:05:38,784 Speaker 3: It's the school bad boy, Santiago, bad boy with. 118 00:05:38,704 --> 00:05:40,984 Speaker 1: A heart of gold and a loving family, which is 119 00:05:40,984 --> 00:05:44,184 Speaker 1: the best kind of bad. Yeah, he would be a 120 00:05:44,184 --> 00:05:49,984 Speaker 1: Gryffindor played by Carlo Sanson Junior Santiago Hernandez. They had 121 00:05:50,024 --> 00:05:52,624 Speaker 1: hooked up at a party just one time, and it 122 00:05:52,664 --> 00:05:54,304 Speaker 1: turns out that he is the father of the child. 123 00:05:54,384 --> 00:05:56,304 Speaker 1: So not only do you have a surprise pregnancy that 124 00:05:56,344 --> 00:05:58,624 Speaker 1: no one knew was coming, it's also with these two 125 00:05:58,704 --> 00:06:00,624 Speaker 1: teenagers who were in high school, who had their own 126 00:06:00,664 --> 00:06:03,504 Speaker 1: family dynamics going on, and all of a sudden they 127 00:06:03,544 --> 00:06:06,264 Speaker 1: have this baby to raise. But plot twist, they also 128 00:06:06,264 --> 00:06:11,024 Speaker 1: start to fall in love, which was really cute, bit troubling, 129 00:06:11,144 --> 00:06:12,624 Speaker 1: just give it everything they had going on. 130 00:06:12,784 --> 00:06:15,224 Speaker 3: My favorite thing about season one in particular was like 131 00:06:15,264 --> 00:06:20,024 Speaker 3: after obviously the initial episode was because santi and his 132 00:06:20,064 --> 00:06:23,864 Speaker 3: family are Chilian, like, yeah, trying to navigate their culture 133 00:06:23,864 --> 00:06:25,784 Speaker 3: and stuff, because he had a girlfriend as well at 134 00:06:25,824 --> 00:06:28,544 Speaker 3: the time. And I remember she said something so specific, 135 00:06:28,584 --> 00:06:31,504 Speaker 3: she said, don't lose your culture just because you're an 136 00:06:31,504 --> 00:06:32,344 Speaker 3: Australian baby. 137 00:06:32,464 --> 00:06:34,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, oh, that just hit like 138 00:06:34,824 --> 00:06:36,184 Speaker 2: a level I didn't know would hits. 139 00:06:36,464 --> 00:06:39,464 Speaker 3: And it's like his family and Ollie's family kind of 140 00:06:39,504 --> 00:06:41,864 Speaker 3: like working on this new cultural dynamic on how they're 141 00:06:41,864 --> 00:06:43,344 Speaker 3: going to be raising the baby. 142 00:06:43,464 --> 00:06:43,904 Speaker 2: Disinder. 143 00:06:44,224 --> 00:06:46,784 Speaker 1: Yes. And also and I said, there's before the baby's 144 00:06:46,864 --> 00:06:49,264 Speaker 1: name is so perfect because obviously they didn't know she 145 00:06:49,304 --> 00:06:51,664 Speaker 1: was coming, so they didn't have a name picked out 146 00:06:51,664 --> 00:06:53,824 Speaker 1: for her. And there's a while there where they call 147 00:06:53,904 --> 00:06:56,584 Speaker 1: her nothing because they weren't prepared for her. But also 148 00:06:56,664 --> 00:06:59,344 Speaker 1: Ollie has what I think is a very understandable reaction. 149 00:06:59,624 --> 00:07:02,544 Speaker 1: She's like, absolutely, get that baby away from me. That 150 00:07:02,704 --> 00:07:04,504 Speaker 1: is not mine, because she's in shocked. She's in such 151 00:07:04,504 --> 00:07:06,144 Speaker 1: a deep shock. She's like, get that baby away from me. 152 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:09,104 Speaker 1: I hate it, it's not mine. I'm paraphrasing. Obviously I 153 00:07:09,144 --> 00:07:11,264 Speaker 1: want nothing to do with it, Like it's bringing all 154 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,264 Speaker 1: this trauma for her of this Yeah, this thing her 155 00:07:14,344 --> 00:07:15,144 Speaker 1: body has just done to. 156 00:07:15,184 --> 00:07:17,104 Speaker 2: Her, she's like pretty much a child herself. 157 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,344 Speaker 1: She's a child herself exactly. And then all of a 158 00:07:19,384 --> 00:07:21,224 Speaker 1: sudden they take the baby home and she has to 159 00:07:21,224 --> 00:07:24,704 Speaker 1: look after it and parent with this guy. Yeah exactly. 160 00:07:25,264 --> 00:07:26,704 Speaker 1: And it's a big moment in the show when she 161 00:07:26,744 --> 00:07:28,904 Speaker 1: finally names her, because it's very much her accepting the 162 00:07:28,944 --> 00:07:30,744 Speaker 1: baby and being like, yes, okay, I can do this. 163 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:32,704 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to be her mother, and she calls 164 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:36,344 Speaker 1: her just Into Ardourn, after the former Prime Minister of 165 00:07:36,384 --> 00:07:39,544 Speaker 1: New Zealand, Justinto Ardourn, who was it's still a feminist icon, 166 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:41,424 Speaker 1: but that was right at the moment where everyone was like, 167 00:07:41,464 --> 00:07:44,624 Speaker 1: we love just In Ajourn. Look what she's doing. She's amazing. 168 00:07:44,824 --> 00:07:46,464 Speaker 2: It's very year eleven of her to do. 169 00:07:46,624 --> 00:07:49,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly what a very kind of like socially 170 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:53,144 Speaker 1: minded year eleven girl in Australia at that time would 171 00:07:53,184 --> 00:07:55,904 Speaker 1: call her daughter. And it's funny because obviously just Into 172 00:07:56,064 --> 00:07:58,024 Speaker 1: Durn still does a lot of you know, amazing things, 173 00:07:58,024 --> 00:07:59,824 Speaker 1: but she's not the prime minister anymore. So I thought, 174 00:07:59,864 --> 00:08:02,584 Speaker 1: like in the last season where they say her name 175 00:08:02,624 --> 00:08:04,104 Speaker 1: to those people have come to yell at them for 176 00:08:04,144 --> 00:08:06,744 Speaker 1: taking the dog and they go justinda that didn't need 177 00:08:06,864 --> 00:08:11,664 Speaker 1: well they call, which is very cute. But yes, you 178 00:08:11,664 --> 00:08:14,104 Speaker 1: have the coming together of these two families, especially when 179 00:08:14,104 --> 00:08:16,864 Speaker 1: their parents start hooking up. What a wild ride, big 180 00:08:16,904 --> 00:08:22,904 Speaker 1: wild ride? Be scared worried about my husband who gets 181 00:08:22,944 --> 00:08:24,184 Speaker 1: himself smashed in the face? 182 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:27,824 Speaker 2: Are you okay? And I'm worried about my mum who's 183 00:08:27,824 --> 00:08:31,304 Speaker 2: now totally freaked out? Why haven't you asked me how 184 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:31,784 Speaker 2: I am? 185 00:08:32,344 --> 00:08:36,304 Speaker 1: And I just I just feel totally alone. 186 00:08:36,584 --> 00:08:38,624 Speaker 2: I'd agree to go with you if you said, let's 187 00:08:38,624 --> 00:08:42,544 Speaker 2: fly a rocket into the sun. I missed the first one, 188 00:08:42,584 --> 00:08:43,944 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to miss the next one. 189 00:08:44,344 --> 00:08:47,744 Speaker 3: So I do want to talk about the parents in 190 00:08:47,744 --> 00:08:51,664 Speaker 3: this show, because yeah, okay, can I be honest, They're 191 00:08:51,744 --> 00:08:56,264 Speaker 3: my favorite characters, interesting and dying Noam, yeah, Dom, Yeah, 192 00:08:56,304 --> 00:08:56,624 Speaker 3: the dad. 193 00:08:56,704 --> 00:08:57,144 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 194 00:08:58,024 --> 00:09:00,464 Speaker 2: I feel like my future looks like Dom's future. 195 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:01,184 Speaker 1: Why is that? 196 00:09:01,544 --> 00:09:03,584 Speaker 3: I feel like we have very similar, like a very 197 00:09:03,584 --> 00:09:06,824 Speaker 3: similar dating life where like he's just constantly on Tinder 198 00:09:06,864 --> 00:09:09,624 Speaker 3: and like it's having the best time, but he's unemployed. 199 00:09:09,664 --> 00:09:11,664 Speaker 2: I'm employed what now for now? 200 00:09:12,024 --> 00:09:16,024 Speaker 3: So I feel like the major like shock factors happen 201 00:09:16,264 --> 00:09:20,664 Speaker 3: with the changing of parents and their relationships, while like 202 00:09:20,784 --> 00:09:23,304 Speaker 3: Ollie and Santi are raising this kid, but then it's 203 00:09:23,344 --> 00:09:25,984 Speaker 3: like kind of switches where like Ollie and Santi have 204 00:09:25,984 --> 00:09:28,784 Speaker 3: their own relationship issues, Like they're together, and then in 205 00:09:28,824 --> 00:09:31,344 Speaker 3: season three they're separated and then they come back together 206 00:09:31,424 --> 00:09:34,224 Speaker 3: because they're also so young, but they feel like the 207 00:09:34,304 --> 00:09:37,704 Speaker 3: adults in like majority of the show versus like their parents. Yeah, 208 00:09:37,824 --> 00:09:41,064 Speaker 3: just kind of like Angie and Dom separate and then 209 00:09:41,144 --> 00:09:45,064 Speaker 3: Dom gets a girlfriend, and then Angie starts dating Santi's 210 00:09:45,304 --> 00:09:50,064 Speaker 3: mom's husband, and then and then Angie starts dating Tom's sister. 211 00:09:50,584 --> 00:09:53,664 Speaker 3: And I think the messiness of like the older people 212 00:09:53,704 --> 00:09:55,824 Speaker 3: in the show is just really really funny. 213 00:09:56,344 --> 00:09:59,824 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, because like they're stepping into his grandparents because 214 00:09:59,824 --> 00:10:01,824 Speaker 1: obviously they love this child that's come into their lives, 215 00:10:01,824 --> 00:10:04,504 Speaker 1: but they also very much like you guys have to 216 00:10:04,584 --> 00:10:07,384 Speaker 1: raise this baby to an extent because we've raised our kids. 217 00:10:07,464 --> 00:10:09,824 Speaker 1: And now we're also having this moment where where single 218 00:10:09,864 --> 00:10:12,064 Speaker 1: were dating, we're trying to get out there and like 219 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:13,504 Speaker 1: you know, do even though they're all living in the 220 00:10:13,504 --> 00:10:15,504 Speaker 1: same house together, even they're separated at some stage. It 221 00:10:15,584 --> 00:10:18,304 Speaker 1: was an interesting dynamic at the Charmers Davis House, which 222 00:10:18,344 --> 00:10:20,024 Speaker 1: is also a real house in Gleide that they just 223 00:10:20,104 --> 00:10:23,184 Speaker 1: found when they were scouting around, and I kind of want. 224 00:10:23,104 --> 00:10:25,664 Speaker 2: To go so expensive feeling. 225 00:10:25,464 --> 00:10:27,984 Speaker 1: That it's so nice. I also just want to go 226 00:10:28,064 --> 00:10:29,584 Speaker 1: look at it, like I want to find moretors on 227 00:10:29,624 --> 00:10:31,624 Speaker 1: Google Maps. And even the couple people who live there 228 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:34,304 Speaker 1: won't let me in, which is fair I'd probably advise 229 00:10:34,344 --> 00:10:35,784 Speaker 1: them not too. I just want to go stand outside 230 00:10:35,824 --> 00:10:36,304 Speaker 1: and just look. 231 00:10:36,464 --> 00:10:37,984 Speaker 2: Well, it's like right next to me. We can just 232 00:10:38,024 --> 00:10:39,664 Speaker 2: do a little. 233 00:10:39,384 --> 00:10:41,624 Speaker 1: Walking trip or walk down the road and take both. 234 00:10:42,904 --> 00:10:44,464 Speaker 1: I love that Claudia Cove and was say by the 235 00:10:44,544 --> 00:10:46,944 Speaker 1: end of filming there for five years the neighbors absolutely 236 00:10:46,984 --> 00:10:49,464 Speaker 1: hate them and get out of here. But yeah, it's 237 00:10:49,504 --> 00:10:52,424 Speaker 1: interesting how the parents go on these kind of wild 238 00:10:52,504 --> 00:10:55,344 Speaker 1: rides with their lives, and that's very much the interesting 239 00:10:55,424 --> 00:10:57,504 Speaker 1: kind of part of it too. But I always like, 240 00:10:57,544 --> 00:10:59,184 Speaker 1: I do love that dynamic. But I guess I'm a 241 00:10:59,224 --> 00:11:01,024 Speaker 1: little bit opposite to you, where I've always kind of 242 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:04,664 Speaker 1: gravitated more towards their younger caste in a way, not 243 00:11:04,704 --> 00:11:07,544 Speaker 1: because they're younger, just because I'm just so fascinated by 244 00:11:07,784 --> 00:11:11,544 Speaker 1: these children in the Crazy Child, because it's just such 245 00:11:11,544 --> 00:11:13,984 Speaker 1: a wild situation, like especially in the earlier seasons when 246 00:11:14,024 --> 00:11:17,224 Speaker 1: they're still at school and they're swapping the baby between classes. 247 00:11:17,264 --> 00:11:18,584 Speaker 1: You know, they're meeting the whole like you take it 248 00:11:18,664 --> 00:11:20,624 Speaker 1: to science because I've got maths now, but we'll meet 249 00:11:20,664 --> 00:11:22,984 Speaker 1: at lunchtime and like here's her bag and all that 250 00:11:23,064 --> 00:11:25,384 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. We're just watching that unfold. I just 251 00:11:25,424 --> 00:11:26,224 Speaker 1: found so wild. 252 00:11:26,624 --> 00:11:29,304 Speaker 3: And then there's a big time jump I think it's 253 00:11:29,304 --> 00:11:31,824 Speaker 3: about four years where we go into season three and 254 00:11:31,904 --> 00:11:34,784 Speaker 3: justin there's like now like a little girl, she's going 255 00:11:34,824 --> 00:11:38,184 Speaker 3: to school, and it feels like a big makeshift because 256 00:11:38,184 --> 00:11:40,944 Speaker 3: even Santi, like he shaves his head, he's looking good. 257 00:11:41,104 --> 00:11:43,784 Speaker 3: Olie's got a new haircut, and when a character gets 258 00:11:43,824 --> 00:11:46,984 Speaker 3: a new haircut that they mean businesses new haircut. 259 00:11:47,104 --> 00:11:47,464 Speaker 1: Knew me. 260 00:11:47,944 --> 00:11:48,664 Speaker 2: And then they're both. 261 00:11:48,864 --> 00:11:50,944 Speaker 3: Ollie becomes like I guess, the bread winner of the 262 00:11:50,984 --> 00:11:53,304 Speaker 3: family where she's working, and then Santi has to be 263 00:11:53,384 --> 00:11:55,384 Speaker 3: the stay at home dad. And what I really liked 264 00:11:55,384 --> 00:11:57,664 Speaker 3: about the time jump is that we also see the 265 00:11:57,744 --> 00:12:01,344 Speaker 3: dynamics of like Santi's family, like his brothers and like 266 00:12:01,384 --> 00:12:04,064 Speaker 3: his friends Vince and stuff. And I like the extra 267 00:12:04,144 --> 00:12:06,104 Speaker 3: characters who just come in and add a little bit 268 00:12:06,224 --> 00:12:08,584 Speaker 3: more flavor. It reminds me so much of Pack to 269 00:12:08,624 --> 00:12:12,304 Speaker 3: the Rafters. Yeah, to characters who ended up becoming like 270 00:12:12,384 --> 00:12:12,824 Speaker 3: part of. 271 00:12:12,744 --> 00:12:15,184 Speaker 1: The part of the family. Yeah. It does really good 272 00:12:15,184 --> 00:12:18,024 Speaker 1: of balancing that elements of comedy and drama as well, 273 00:12:18,064 --> 00:12:21,144 Speaker 1: because there are some very wildly funny moments in it, 274 00:12:21,184 --> 00:12:23,464 Speaker 1: and sometimes it seems so light, and then at other 275 00:12:23,504 --> 00:12:26,144 Speaker 1: points it does get very dark and serious, and it's 276 00:12:26,184 --> 00:12:29,424 Speaker 1: interesting that so many people maybe lean more towards the 277 00:12:29,464 --> 00:12:32,384 Speaker 1: comedy element of it. And I have always to have 278 00:12:32,384 --> 00:12:35,744 Speaker 1: always thought like, Bump's a really sweet show. It's really lovely, 279 00:12:35,824 --> 00:12:38,944 Speaker 1: it's really comforting, and I hadn't really thought about this 280 00:12:39,024 --> 00:12:40,824 Speaker 1: until I was I've been to the set of Bump 281 00:12:40,904 --> 00:12:42,864 Speaker 1: like many times over the years into the cast and 282 00:12:42,864 --> 00:12:45,304 Speaker 1: watch filming. It's always a really fun time. But I 283 00:12:45,344 --> 00:12:47,704 Speaker 1: remember for season four, I was on the set and 284 00:12:47,744 --> 00:12:50,984 Speaker 1: I was chatting to Claudia carbon in between her shooting 285 00:12:51,064 --> 00:12:53,744 Speaker 1: some different scenes, and I was like, Oh, I'm so 286 00:12:53,784 --> 00:12:55,544 Speaker 1: excited for this season and I'm so excited to talk 287 00:12:55,544 --> 00:12:57,984 Speaker 1: to you again because I love Bumps so much, and 288 00:12:58,024 --> 00:12:59,864 Speaker 1: she was very interested in my kind of take on 289 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:01,664 Speaker 1: it as a fan as well, not just as someone 290 00:13:01,704 --> 00:13:04,944 Speaker 1: who works in TV and film. Journalism obviously, because she's 291 00:13:04,944 --> 00:13:06,584 Speaker 1: a creative the show and she's so invested in what 292 00:13:06,624 --> 00:13:08,944 Speaker 1: people think. And she was like, tell me exactly what 293 00:13:08,984 --> 00:13:10,304 Speaker 1: you love about it, Like why do you have this 294 00:13:10,384 --> 00:13:12,184 Speaker 1: connection to it? And I was saying, it's such a 295 00:13:12,184 --> 00:13:14,464 Speaker 1: comfort show for me, and I love the family dynamic, 296 00:13:14,504 --> 00:13:16,224 Speaker 1: and I find it so sweet and nice, and I 297 00:13:16,264 --> 00:13:17,944 Speaker 1: love that it comes in the holidays so that you 298 00:13:17,944 --> 00:13:20,264 Speaker 1: can watch it while you're at home relaxing. And she 299 00:13:20,344 --> 00:13:22,304 Speaker 1: was upset by that, but her face kind of changed 300 00:13:22,344 --> 00:13:24,304 Speaker 1: a little bit, and she was like, it's interesting that 301 00:13:24,344 --> 00:13:26,624 Speaker 1: people always say that she's liked, because I feel very 302 00:13:26,624 --> 00:13:28,264 Speaker 1: differently about the show, and I feel like it's not 303 00:13:28,344 --> 00:13:31,064 Speaker 1: exactly basically what she was saying is that there's a 304 00:13:31,104 --> 00:13:33,104 Speaker 1: deeper element to it. She's like, I feel like it's 305 00:13:33,544 --> 00:13:36,624 Speaker 1: a very life affirming, positive family show, and she said, 306 00:13:36,664 --> 00:13:38,824 Speaker 1: but that's really all people talk about. But at the 307 00:13:38,864 --> 00:13:41,704 Speaker 1: same time, she said, we have some very subversive storylines 308 00:13:41,704 --> 00:13:45,024 Speaker 1: and we really push the envelope in some areas, and 309 00:13:45,104 --> 00:13:46,904 Speaker 1: that's also what I like people to focus on. 310 00:13:46,904 --> 00:13:48,784 Speaker 2: Which we definitely saw in season. 311 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:50,384 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, which we've seen all the way through, 312 00:13:50,384 --> 00:13:52,384 Speaker 1: but really came out in season five. She was saying, 313 00:13:52,424 --> 00:13:55,064 Speaker 1: you know, we show a mother masturbating with a vibrator, 314 00:13:55,184 --> 00:13:57,984 Speaker 1: we have another girl using a mooncup on TV, Like, 315 00:13:57,984 --> 00:14:00,144 Speaker 1: you don't see that as socially on Australian TV. We 316 00:14:00,224 --> 00:14:03,384 Speaker 1: have things about young women learning to orgasm while they're lacteating. 317 00:14:03,464 --> 00:14:06,104 Speaker 1: We have these you know, family dynacs with people breaking up, 318 00:14:06,144 --> 00:14:08,864 Speaker 1: and she just sees it as like very boundary pushing, 319 00:14:09,184 --> 00:14:10,864 Speaker 1: and I think we see it as like sometimes a 320 00:14:10,944 --> 00:14:12,544 Speaker 1: fun family show. What It's kind of both. 321 00:14:12,664 --> 00:14:16,144 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that to an extent definitely in Australia, 322 00:14:16,184 --> 00:14:17,944 Speaker 3: Like I haven't seen that in Australian TV, but I 323 00:14:17,984 --> 00:14:21,224 Speaker 3: think especially with us in our jobs and like how 324 00:14:21,264 --> 00:14:23,264 Speaker 3: we always do week and watch and stuff, I've been 325 00:14:23,304 --> 00:14:26,344 Speaker 3: seeing a lot of that boundary pushing for a while now, 326 00:14:26,584 --> 00:14:29,744 Speaker 3: like with Sex and City, with sex education, Like I've 327 00:14:29,784 --> 00:14:30,504 Speaker 3: been seeing. 328 00:14:30,264 --> 00:14:30,744 Speaker 1: That a lot. 329 00:14:30,944 --> 00:14:33,184 Speaker 3: So I kind of agree with you. Like for me, 330 00:14:33,744 --> 00:14:36,424 Speaker 3: a show like Bump, yes it is boundary pushing, but 331 00:14:36,504 --> 00:14:38,224 Speaker 3: not to the extent where I'm like that's the main 332 00:14:38,264 --> 00:14:41,264 Speaker 3: focus for me. It's still that very family oriented. 333 00:14:40,824 --> 00:14:43,304 Speaker 1: Like yeah, which I think is lovely to have a 334 00:14:43,344 --> 00:14:45,984 Speaker 1: show that is boundary pushing, but also sometimes those shows 335 00:14:45,984 --> 00:14:48,104 Speaker 1: do feel a bit like work. You're like, I know 336 00:14:48,184 --> 00:14:50,224 Speaker 1: this is good for me to watch, and it's confronting 337 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:52,504 Speaker 1: and subversive, but it's not what I choose to sit 338 00:14:52,544 --> 00:14:54,424 Speaker 1: down and watch on like a Sunday afternoon, whereas I 339 00:14:54,424 --> 00:14:56,584 Speaker 1: think Bump brings that in. So I just that was 340 00:14:56,584 --> 00:14:57,264 Speaker 1: really interesting. 341 00:14:59,344 --> 00:15:00,824 Speaker 2: Can we talk about season five? 342 00:15:01,064 --> 00:15:06,144 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, Oh my gosh, I an you are gonna cry. 343 00:15:06,224 --> 00:15:08,464 Speaker 1: You cried watching it, right, Yeah, I know. I knew 344 00:15:08,504 --> 00:15:10,864 Speaker 1: it was coming bit, so obviously the season. If you're 345 00:15:10,864 --> 00:15:12,464 Speaker 1: at this point of the podcast, I really hope you've 346 00:15:12,464 --> 00:15:14,504 Speaker 1: watched it, because we're gonna go deep. So we have 347 00:15:14,744 --> 00:15:18,224 Speaker 1: Olli and Santi expecting their second child, which is really lovely. 348 00:15:18,544 --> 00:15:20,984 Speaker 1: Lots of different things happening in the family and also 349 00:15:21,024 --> 00:15:23,024 Speaker 1: with both their jobs. You know, Santi's trying to get 350 00:15:23,024 --> 00:15:26,304 Speaker 1: work as an illustrator and with a comic book, and 351 00:15:26,464 --> 00:15:28,904 Speaker 1: Ollie is working in government. Just also a shout out 352 00:15:28,944 --> 00:15:31,504 Speaker 1: to Steph Tisdale, who plays her boss, who is the 353 00:15:31,584 --> 00:15:35,544 Speaker 1: funniest person funny, oh my both Obviously she's a comedian, 354 00:15:35,544 --> 00:15:37,184 Speaker 1: so she's funny on the screen and off screen, but 355 00:15:37,224 --> 00:15:38,824 Speaker 1: she just gives I just want to spin off of 356 00:15:38,864 --> 00:15:42,224 Speaker 1: her so badly. She just steals every scene she's in. 357 00:15:42,584 --> 00:15:44,824 Speaker 1: She's so funny. She stole the show at the premiere. 358 00:15:44,824 --> 00:15:45,744 Speaker 1: We're at my bus. 359 00:15:46,024 --> 00:15:47,584 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's so funny. 360 00:15:47,584 --> 00:15:49,624 Speaker 1: She's so funny. Like, give that woman her own show. 361 00:15:49,864 --> 00:15:51,544 Speaker 1: I also remember being on the set of Bump once 362 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:53,304 Speaker 1: and I was about to interview her and I was 363 00:15:53,424 --> 00:15:55,384 Speaker 1: quite far away from each other, and all of a sudden, 364 00:15:55,424 --> 00:15:57,304 Speaker 1: I heard I've never met this one before. All of 365 00:15:57,344 --> 00:16:00,864 Speaker 1: a sudden, I hear this voice go, Laura, you look hot. 366 00:16:01,384 --> 00:16:04,224 Speaker 1: And I turn around and Steph Tisdale's like walking towards 367 00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:06,104 Speaker 1: me really like all like ah, She's like, I love 368 00:16:06,144 --> 00:16:07,704 Speaker 1: you outfit, look at this. And so we're talking about 369 00:16:07,704 --> 00:16:09,584 Speaker 1: clothes and stuff, and I mean, like, I love your 370 00:16:09,624 --> 00:16:10,784 Speaker 1: outfit and I love you. And then I was like, 371 00:16:10,824 --> 00:16:11,984 Speaker 1: oh my god, I have to interview I have any 372 00:16:12,064 --> 00:16:14,224 Speaker 1: had ten seconds, like let's we got to get to business. 373 00:16:14,584 --> 00:16:16,944 Speaker 1: But she's exactly off screen as you see her on Star. 374 00:16:17,024 --> 00:16:22,024 Speaker 1: I mean, she's obviously not her character. Her character's crazy, Like, 375 00:16:22,184 --> 00:16:23,584 Speaker 1: she's exactly like a character. 376 00:16:24,504 --> 00:16:26,344 Speaker 2: I was just like having birds like all over her. 377 00:16:26,504 --> 00:16:29,224 Speaker 1: Also shout out to Dylan Alcott in his first acting role. 378 00:16:29,344 --> 00:16:31,864 Speaker 1: They're so good together. I also wanted, like we got this. 379 00:16:31,944 --> 00:16:35,224 Speaker 2: We there from like season one, we got this teaser. 380 00:16:34,944 --> 00:16:36,864 Speaker 1: Of their romance and then we saw nothing more. 381 00:16:37,384 --> 00:16:39,144 Speaker 2: They were like I wanted to see it enough time. 382 00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:42,344 Speaker 1: The best line, the best line in season five is 383 00:16:42,384 --> 00:16:44,224 Speaker 1: and she's like when Ollie goes, oh, I know you 384 00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:47,864 Speaker 1: guys are in your office kissing, and she goes kissing. Yes, 385 00:16:47,904 --> 00:16:53,104 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. So lots of funny moments, but 386 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:57,544 Speaker 1: also such a confronting season because Angie has been battling 387 00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:00,304 Speaker 1: cancer for a lot of the different seasons and it 388 00:17:00,344 --> 00:17:02,384 Speaker 1: really comes to herd in season five and you see 389 00:17:02,384 --> 00:17:05,064 Speaker 1: her preparing to die. I know as a culture, like 390 00:17:05,104 --> 00:17:08,424 Speaker 1: our culture in particular, is really bad with death, but 391 00:17:08,504 --> 00:17:10,864 Speaker 1: I am also really bad with death. I really don't 392 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:11,944 Speaker 1: want to think about it. I don't want to think 393 00:17:11,944 --> 00:17:14,864 Speaker 1: about anyone I love dying. Really lucky so far that 394 00:17:14,904 --> 00:17:16,464 Speaker 1: I haven't had to sort of go through that, but 395 00:17:16,544 --> 00:17:19,664 Speaker 1: like watching these people say goodbye thead mother, I can't. 396 00:17:20,064 --> 00:17:21,944 Speaker 1: And what makes it I wanted to turn it off. 397 00:17:21,984 --> 00:17:24,024 Speaker 1: I know. That's the whole point is that the show 398 00:17:24,104 --> 00:17:25,584 Speaker 1: is like we have to you see the characters go 399 00:17:25,624 --> 00:17:27,224 Speaker 1: through that, you have to sit with it. It's a 400 00:17:27,264 --> 00:17:29,584 Speaker 1: part of life. But I was like, it's hard. 401 00:17:29,864 --> 00:17:32,984 Speaker 3: First episode of season five where she's receiving the news 402 00:17:33,024 --> 00:17:34,744 Speaker 3: with literally like a million people. 403 00:17:34,504 --> 00:17:36,144 Speaker 2: In the room because the family is that bad. 404 00:17:36,184 --> 00:17:39,984 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so heartbreaking but so real, Like after 405 00:17:40,024 --> 00:17:43,224 Speaker 3: that conversation. We see it in movies and TV shows 406 00:17:43,264 --> 00:17:46,584 Speaker 3: all the time about these like massive scenes where the 407 00:17:46,744 --> 00:17:49,184 Speaker 3: characters like sitting in this doctor's office and the doctor's 408 00:17:49,184 --> 00:17:53,064 Speaker 3: office is giving them like a really sad diagnosis, and 409 00:17:53,104 --> 00:17:55,064 Speaker 3: then it jumps to something else, but we see what 410 00:17:55,464 --> 00:17:57,304 Speaker 3: happens after where they just have to go on with 411 00:17:57,384 --> 00:17:59,624 Speaker 3: their lives, like they have to go back to work, 412 00:17:59,744 --> 00:18:02,664 Speaker 3: they have to take their kids to school. Ye, that 413 00:18:02,944 --> 00:18:06,544 Speaker 3: like part straight after they receive that information just hit 414 00:18:06,624 --> 00:18:09,624 Speaker 3: me so hard, especially when she's back at home and. 415 00:18:09,544 --> 00:18:12,064 Speaker 2: You can see her, like Claudia's the. 416 00:18:11,984 --> 00:18:15,784 Speaker 3: Most brilliant actor in this series where she's you see 417 00:18:15,864 --> 00:18:17,904 Speaker 3: the like in her head, her trying to figure out like, 418 00:18:17,944 --> 00:18:20,024 Speaker 3: oh now I have to get my family together, like yeah, 419 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:21,864 Speaker 3: to make them like they need to sort their shit out. 420 00:18:21,944 --> 00:18:23,664 Speaker 3: And she's like, go get a troll, you. 421 00:18:23,664 --> 00:18:26,704 Speaker 2: Go clean this, you have a license, and she's like 422 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:30,104 Speaker 2: just taking to drive. She's like just drive, just try 423 00:18:30,624 --> 00:18:31,944 Speaker 2: strike through all. 424 00:18:31,784 --> 00:18:34,424 Speaker 1: So good and so sad, and just seeing that storyline 425 00:18:34,464 --> 00:18:36,824 Speaker 1: all the way through until you kind of see like, oh, 426 00:18:37,104 --> 00:18:38,784 Speaker 1: like she's in remission and then you see the later 427 00:18:38,824 --> 00:18:42,104 Speaker 1: episodes what she goes through, and I think also there's 428 00:18:42,144 --> 00:18:44,544 Speaker 1: so many elements where you're seeing the pain of the 429 00:18:44,544 --> 00:18:46,704 Speaker 1: people who are left behind. You're seeing her kids who 430 00:18:47,024 --> 00:18:48,864 Speaker 1: are like setting up their own lives. But you know, 431 00:18:48,904 --> 00:18:50,904 Speaker 1: there's that heartbreaking moment where all he's like, I'm just 432 00:18:50,944 --> 00:18:52,984 Speaker 1: not ready and she's crying in the hospital, and later 433 00:18:53,024 --> 00:18:54,744 Speaker 1: on she takes her mother to buy the urn, and 434 00:18:55,224 --> 00:18:57,504 Speaker 1: that was such a side of there laughing in that scene, 435 00:18:57,544 --> 00:18:59,304 Speaker 1: but I was sobbing because it was like she's like, 436 00:18:59,344 --> 00:19:02,024 Speaker 1: you know, my final act of service. And then you're 437 00:19:02,064 --> 00:19:04,704 Speaker 1: also seeing Don like obviously they're separated, but they're such 438 00:19:04,904 --> 00:19:08,024 Speaker 1: intense co parents and they're best friends. But then you've 439 00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:11,584 Speaker 1: also got Edith's reaction, who's by Anita Hay And what 440 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:12,984 Speaker 1: did you think of their relationship because that was a 441 00:19:13,024 --> 00:19:13,744 Speaker 1: bit of a plot twist. 442 00:19:13,784 --> 00:19:16,144 Speaker 3: When it happened, I was like, you know what, Sure, 443 00:19:17,664 --> 00:19:19,744 Speaker 3: as it happened, I was like, after all of the 444 00:19:19,824 --> 00:19:23,464 Speaker 3: other relationship surprises, I was like, this is a good one. 445 00:19:23,504 --> 00:19:25,344 Speaker 1: So Edith, I mean, I know people have watched the show, 446 00:19:25,384 --> 00:19:27,464 Speaker 1: but just as a refresher, Edith is dumb sister. 447 00:19:27,464 --> 00:19:27,984 Speaker 2: Domb sister. 448 00:19:28,104 --> 00:19:31,384 Speaker 1: So Angie's been in love with her for twenty years. 449 00:19:31,424 --> 00:19:33,704 Speaker 2: And she divorced Tom and then got in a relationship 450 00:19:33,744 --> 00:19:34,304 Speaker 2: with his sister. 451 00:19:34,704 --> 00:19:37,544 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean talk about funny and subversive, because there's 452 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:40,784 Speaker 1: a moment in a later season when Edith and Angie 453 00:19:40,824 --> 00:19:42,824 Speaker 1: are having like sex on the kitchen table for the 454 00:19:42,824 --> 00:19:45,144 Speaker 1: first time, and the whole family works. 455 00:19:44,944 --> 00:19:46,224 Speaker 2: It just came back from a movie. 456 00:19:46,384 --> 00:19:49,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, I came mom, and she's like, oh, it's not 457 00:19:49,864 --> 00:19:51,544 Speaker 1: what it looks like it is, and then like, obviously 458 00:19:51,544 --> 00:19:54,144 Speaker 1: that's very funny. Then you had the dynamic of being 459 00:19:54,184 --> 00:19:57,584 Speaker 1: like my sister out of everyone. But then those two 460 00:19:57,584 --> 00:19:59,384 Speaker 1: go on to have quite the long love affair there 461 00:19:59,384 --> 00:20:00,424 Speaker 1: together for a long time. 462 00:20:00,544 --> 00:20:03,744 Speaker 3: That's what's really sad about season five because I think 463 00:20:03,944 --> 00:20:07,224 Speaker 3: the main thing that everyone's focus on is Angie's diagnosis, 464 00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:09,424 Speaker 3: and yeah, pretty much from episode one we see that 465 00:20:09,744 --> 00:20:12,744 Speaker 3: the families thing to prepare for like her dead. Yeah, 466 00:20:12,784 --> 00:20:15,384 Speaker 3: But yet that we're closing all of these like open 467 00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:18,544 Speaker 3: ended circles of everyone's relationships is like everyone else on 468 00:20:18,744 --> 00:20:21,184 Speaker 3: the other parts of their lives seem very secure and 469 00:20:21,224 --> 00:20:23,664 Speaker 3: like everything's fine and dandy except for this one thing. 470 00:20:23,944 --> 00:20:24,224 Speaker 1: Yeah. 471 00:20:24,264 --> 00:20:26,384 Speaker 3: And I think what they do really well, especially with 472 00:20:26,544 --> 00:20:29,824 Speaker 3: Angie's illness, is that there's so many shows out there 473 00:20:29,904 --> 00:20:32,824 Speaker 3: that like have patients, like cancer patients and stuff, and 474 00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:37,664 Speaker 3: this show shows the side that isn't constantly doom and glow. Yeah, 475 00:20:37,704 --> 00:20:39,984 Speaker 3: Like they show like even the little tiny bits that 476 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:41,824 Speaker 3: you kind of forget and if you have a loved 477 00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:44,344 Speaker 3: one who's going through cancer treatment for saying I'm so sorry, 478 00:20:44,504 --> 00:20:45,744 Speaker 3: but if you have a loved one who's going through 479 00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:48,544 Speaker 3: cancer treatment, they show that side of like that episode 480 00:20:48,544 --> 00:20:51,464 Speaker 3: of where she's just doing the treatment for the whole episode, yeah, 481 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:54,344 Speaker 3: and how she just really wants to talk about what's 482 00:20:54,344 --> 00:20:56,624 Speaker 3: happening to her, but everyone's trying to distract her and 483 00:20:56,664 --> 00:21:00,024 Speaker 3: talk about that life and it's just so beautifully done 484 00:21:00,104 --> 00:21:02,664 Speaker 3: because that never gets shown exactly. 485 00:21:02,744 --> 00:21:05,304 Speaker 1: It kind of shows like almost the admin and the monotony, 486 00:21:05,344 --> 00:21:07,544 Speaker 1: which can be really hard to go through of going 487 00:21:07,544 --> 00:21:10,184 Speaker 1: through a medical situation like that, but also that idea 488 00:21:10,184 --> 00:21:12,344 Speaker 1: of everyone around you just wanting to be like so 489 00:21:12,544 --> 00:21:14,784 Speaker 1: upbeat and so positive and talk about this and talk 490 00:21:14,784 --> 00:21:16,104 Speaker 1: about that and bring you treats and be like what 491 00:21:16,144 --> 00:21:18,424 Speaker 1: TV show are you watching? And the person who's going 492 00:21:18,424 --> 00:21:19,984 Speaker 1: through the treatment is what you kind of see on 493 00:21:20,024 --> 00:21:22,304 Speaker 1: Angie's faces, Like I also just need to talk about 494 00:21:22,304 --> 00:21:24,904 Speaker 1: like what I'm going through and not have this facade 495 00:21:24,944 --> 00:21:27,264 Speaker 1: of happiness because it's almost like it comes across like 496 00:21:27,304 --> 00:21:29,144 Speaker 1: as for the people who are visiting her, not for her, 497 00:21:29,224 --> 00:21:31,584 Speaker 1: but it's also such a for people who have gone 498 00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:33,944 Speaker 1: through that. I'm sure that would be It's such a 499 00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:36,784 Speaker 1: difficult situation to be and like there's no I think 500 00:21:36,984 --> 00:21:39,904 Speaker 1: right way to do it. But yeah, it was interest 501 00:21:39,944 --> 00:21:42,984 Speaker 1: so interesting to watch Edith and Angie's dynamic throughout the 502 00:21:43,064 --> 00:21:46,024 Speaker 1: series and kind of building to that beautiful final episode. 503 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:48,904 Speaker 1: And really interestingly, I was asking Claudia car when season 504 00:21:48,904 --> 00:21:51,784 Speaker 1: four came out about her character's relationship with Edith, because 505 00:21:51,784 --> 00:21:53,624 Speaker 1: you know, she's one of the creators, she's one of 506 00:21:53,664 --> 00:21:56,144 Speaker 1: the writers. She has a lot more control than most 507 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:58,824 Speaker 1: actors do over well, she has ultimate control really over 508 00:21:58,864 --> 00:22:00,944 Speaker 1: what her character's doing. So I did ask her why 509 00:22:00,984 --> 00:22:03,224 Speaker 1: she chose to put her character in a same sex 510 00:22:03,304 --> 00:22:05,664 Speaker 1: relationship because it, you know, it did kind of change 511 00:22:05,664 --> 00:22:07,344 Speaker 1: the course of the show, and I thought it was 512 00:22:07,344 --> 00:22:09,144 Speaker 1: really interesting because she's been on our screens for like 513 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:11,584 Speaker 1: over twenty years, Like I remember a time when Claudia 514 00:22:11,624 --> 00:22:14,664 Speaker 1: carbon wasn't on the TV shows we were watching. And 515 00:22:14,704 --> 00:22:17,024 Speaker 1: she said, as an actress, she'd been filming romantic and 516 00:22:17,104 --> 00:22:19,304 Speaker 1: intimate scenes with men and boys since she was sixteen 517 00:22:19,344 --> 00:22:23,024 Speaker 1: years old. And so she said to me, this storyline 518 00:22:23,024 --> 00:22:24,624 Speaker 1: came from a place of I don't actually want to 519 00:22:24,664 --> 00:22:27,584 Speaker 1: kiss another man on the screen at the moment she 520 00:22:27,664 --> 00:22:30,464 Speaker 1: was done with that. That's so interesting. 521 00:22:30,704 --> 00:22:31,184 Speaker 2: I love that. 522 00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:32,664 Speaker 1: And then she went on to say that she really 523 00:22:32,704 --> 00:22:35,544 Speaker 1: adores Anita as an actress who plays Edith, and she 524 00:22:35,584 --> 00:22:38,904 Speaker 1: said there's such a freedom in playing these intimate scenes 525 00:22:38,944 --> 00:22:41,744 Speaker 1: with her, and it underpins the storyline that ultimately they 526 00:22:41,744 --> 00:22:43,264 Speaker 1: did it for the storyline, not just for this, but 527 00:22:43,344 --> 00:22:45,864 Speaker 1: just as her personal kind of take as an actress. 528 00:22:46,384 --> 00:22:48,744 Speaker 1: She said that she was really excited to play out 529 00:22:48,824 --> 00:22:51,624 Speaker 1: this love story because there's such a simplicity to it. 530 00:22:52,024 --> 00:22:54,424 Speaker 1: And she said there's a romance that she doesn't think 531 00:22:54,544 --> 00:22:57,624 Speaker 1: necessarily comes from playing opposite a male actor, and they 532 00:22:57,624 --> 00:23:00,584 Speaker 1: were so fascinating to kind of see the inner workings 533 00:23:00,584 --> 00:23:02,304 Speaker 1: of her mind. As an actress and what she was 534 00:23:02,344 --> 00:23:03,624 Speaker 1: thinking going into that scene. 535 00:23:03,784 --> 00:23:06,784 Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually such a cool answer. 536 00:23:06,584 --> 00:23:09,144 Speaker 1: Isn't it. Especially towards the end of her storyline when 537 00:23:09,224 --> 00:23:11,264 Speaker 1: they have the death expert come in, I thought was 538 00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:13,504 Speaker 1: so interesting and the way she kind of changed all 539 00:23:13,544 --> 00:23:15,104 Speaker 1: their thoughts around death and she was like to eat 540 00:23:15,104 --> 00:23:16,464 Speaker 1: itth like you can't be the care or you have 541 00:23:16,504 --> 00:23:18,224 Speaker 1: to be the partner, and all of a sudden that 542 00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:21,584 Speaker 1: switched everything in her. That scene where they have the tattoos, Yeah, 543 00:23:21,664 --> 00:23:23,384 Speaker 1: I thought was sweet. But you know when I really 544 00:23:23,384 --> 00:23:25,344 Speaker 1: sobbed when obviously I mean, do we want to get 545 00:23:25,344 --> 00:23:27,904 Speaker 1: to this now? First of all, do we want to 546 00:23:27,944 --> 00:23:30,344 Speaker 1: talk about something that Bump fans have been kind of 547 00:23:30,384 --> 00:23:32,784 Speaker 1: struggling with a little bit. By Bump fans, we mean 548 00:23:32,864 --> 00:23:35,744 Speaker 1: my mother, your mother, and a lot of people we 549 00:23:35,744 --> 00:23:37,744 Speaker 1: were talking to, but your mother in particular. Shout out 550 00:23:37,744 --> 00:23:39,984 Speaker 1: to everyone who gives us all our best ideas, is 551 00:23:40,024 --> 00:23:42,264 Speaker 1: that they made an interesting choice for the last few 552 00:23:42,304 --> 00:23:44,744 Speaker 1: episodes of Bump is that there's a time jump. It 553 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,464 Speaker 1: jumps back and forth, but then it's it's episode eight. 554 00:23:48,904 --> 00:23:50,624 Speaker 1: It comes up and we all did the same thing 555 00:23:50,624 --> 00:23:52,704 Speaker 1: of pausing and being like, did I accidentally miss an. 556 00:23:52,584 --> 00:23:53,584 Speaker 2: Episode I think it was. 557 00:23:53,624 --> 00:23:56,984 Speaker 3: So it's like more chronological from the start of the season, 558 00:23:57,184 --> 00:24:02,024 Speaker 3: and then episode six we jumped two years ahead after 559 00:24:02,304 --> 00:24:04,104 Speaker 3: and then that's when we find out that Angie's not 560 00:24:04,184 --> 00:24:06,744 Speaker 3: with them anymore, and a lot happens there. 561 00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:08,144 Speaker 2: The urn gets lost. 562 00:24:08,464 --> 00:24:11,224 Speaker 1: There's like that was freaking white and they just I 563 00:24:11,264 --> 00:24:12,664 Speaker 1: thought they were going to find it the inn. They 564 00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:14,264 Speaker 1: never found it. Where is Anchie? 565 00:24:14,304 --> 00:24:16,944 Speaker 2: She's so realistic, but like she is it. She's the 566 00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:18,024 Speaker 2: crow that came in. 567 00:24:18,304 --> 00:24:21,464 Speaker 1: No, I got I understood it's a magpie first. Yeah, 568 00:24:21,464 --> 00:24:23,664 Speaker 1: that's actually quite important to the story because of the tattoos. 569 00:24:23,704 --> 00:24:25,584 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but yeah, they I thought they were going 570 00:24:25,624 --> 00:24:27,944 Speaker 1: to find the urn, but they didn't. So that's just 571 00:24:27,944 --> 00:24:28,944 Speaker 1: something for me to grapple with. 572 00:24:29,064 --> 00:24:31,744 Speaker 3: So it jumped two years ahead and then episode seven 573 00:24:31,784 --> 00:24:35,184 Speaker 3: were back to present day, and then episode eight that's 574 00:24:35,184 --> 00:24:37,824 Speaker 3: where we jump even further back to when Ollie was 575 00:24:37,864 --> 00:24:39,184 Speaker 3: pregnant with her second child. 576 00:24:39,304 --> 00:24:41,624 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's that episode where you come in and 577 00:24:41,664 --> 00:24:43,544 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like there's been no indication that 578 00:24:43,584 --> 00:24:45,424 Speaker 1: there's a real time jump. There's little things once you 579 00:24:45,464 --> 00:24:47,584 Speaker 1: watch it back, there's little things where you're like people's 580 00:24:47,624 --> 00:24:49,744 Speaker 1: hair is different, there's things moved around the house. 581 00:24:49,784 --> 00:24:52,424 Speaker 2: My mom was like, oh, I missed like five episodes. 582 00:24:52,544 --> 00:24:53,504 Speaker 2: She's like, gotta go back. 583 00:24:53,584 --> 00:24:55,064 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I read that too. 584 00:24:55,144 --> 00:24:56,824 Speaker 1: I was like, paused it, and I was like, oh shit, 585 00:24:56,864 --> 00:24:59,024 Speaker 1: accidentally pressed the wrong episode. So I went back and 586 00:24:59,064 --> 00:25:00,784 Speaker 1: I looked at it. I was like, no, this is right, 587 00:25:00,784 --> 00:25:02,624 Speaker 1: and I pressed it again. I'm like, oh, now I 588 00:25:02,664 --> 00:25:04,104 Speaker 1: get it. But it is a little bit of a 589 00:25:04,104 --> 00:25:04,944 Speaker 1: shock factor at first. 590 00:25:04,984 --> 00:25:07,784 Speaker 3: And then episode seven, that's like sandwich between the future 591 00:25:07,944 --> 00:25:09,184 Speaker 3: and the past, is. 592 00:25:09,624 --> 00:25:14,144 Speaker 1: The episode, yeah, where Angie passes away, which was so 593 00:25:14,184 --> 00:25:15,224 Speaker 1: shocking shocking. 594 00:25:15,304 --> 00:25:17,824 Speaker 2: They didn't like lead up to that at all. 595 00:25:17,904 --> 00:25:20,224 Speaker 3: That whole episode, Like, yes, it was like a really 596 00:25:20,264 --> 00:25:22,944 Speaker 3: feel good episode with like a family, and especially that 597 00:25:23,344 --> 00:25:25,184 Speaker 3: kind of like seeing towards the end with her all 598 00:25:25,224 --> 00:25:27,584 Speaker 3: sitting in the living room together and like all just 599 00:25:27,704 --> 00:25:31,104 Speaker 3: laughing together. And I think that's the episode where they 600 00:25:31,144 --> 00:25:33,184 Speaker 3: all accepted her death and they were all just like 601 00:25:33,264 --> 00:25:35,544 Speaker 3: talking to her, and then all she did was just 602 00:25:35,584 --> 00:25:37,664 Speaker 3: like go to sleep, Like only Ollie came and said by. 603 00:25:37,784 --> 00:25:39,144 Speaker 3: She's like, I'm just gonna say good night to mom. 604 00:25:39,184 --> 00:25:43,184 Speaker 3: She yeah, kissed her and that's the night she decided 605 00:25:43,224 --> 00:25:43,544 Speaker 3: to go. 606 00:25:44,304 --> 00:25:46,624 Speaker 1: Oh that scene the story, I mean the look on 607 00:25:46,704 --> 00:25:49,224 Speaker 1: Dom's face. Also when she says that she is going 608 00:25:49,264 --> 00:25:51,024 Speaker 1: to I liked how they. 609 00:25:50,864 --> 00:25:53,584 Speaker 3: Did that did it was just dumb in her together 610 00:25:53,704 --> 00:25:56,584 Speaker 3: because I feel like that was firstly, she couldn't be 611 00:25:56,864 --> 00:26:00,024 Speaker 3: with Edie because Edie works as a lawyer, and she 612 00:26:00,104 --> 00:26:02,464 Speaker 3: knew from the death consultant that if someone who's in 613 00:26:02,504 --> 00:26:04,984 Speaker 3: the legal profession it could look really bad, like if 614 00:26:05,024 --> 00:26:06,584 Speaker 3: they see you take your own life. 615 00:26:06,704 --> 00:26:08,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think sometimes you just know how people 616 00:26:08,504 --> 00:26:11,744 Speaker 1: react in certain situations and what emotional moments people can 617 00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,424 Speaker 1: be around for. And she was saying like also she'll 618 00:26:13,424 --> 00:26:15,344 Speaker 1: talk me out of it, and really said on there. 619 00:26:15,384 --> 00:26:16,664 Speaker 2: Just like all you have to do is just hold 620 00:26:16,704 --> 00:26:17,064 Speaker 2: my hands. 621 00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:20,384 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and tears streaming down my face because 622 00:26:20,864 --> 00:26:23,304 Speaker 1: what Also what an impossible decision for Don because like 623 00:26:23,304 --> 00:26:24,504 Speaker 1: your first instant would be like. 624 00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:26,344 Speaker 2: The first thing he said it was, how do I 625 00:26:26,384 --> 00:26:27,024 Speaker 2: tell the kids? 626 00:26:27,144 --> 00:26:30,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, how do I tell the kids? How 627 00:26:30,144 --> 00:26:31,064 Speaker 1: do I sit through this? 628 00:26:31,144 --> 00:26:32,544 Speaker 2: But I think I'm not happy to do this. 629 00:26:32,744 --> 00:26:35,184 Speaker 1: That is the ultimate like partner best friend move though 630 00:26:35,184 --> 00:26:36,904 Speaker 1: at the end where he just holds her hand and 631 00:26:36,944 --> 00:26:39,664 Speaker 1: like puts aside all the things that he's going to 632 00:26:39,704 --> 00:26:41,304 Speaker 1: have to deal with in the personal pain that he's 633 00:26:41,304 --> 00:26:43,824 Speaker 1: in to give her this last thing as these people 634 00:26:43,824 --> 00:26:46,024 Speaker 1: who have raised a family together and are best friend 635 00:26:46,584 --> 00:26:49,544 Speaker 1: And then absolutely heartbreaking when Edith wakes up in the 636 00:26:49,544 --> 00:26:51,704 Speaker 1: morning and comes downstairs and when she's saying like, oh 637 00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:54,024 Speaker 1: my darling, and then this killed me. This is what 638 00:26:54,064 --> 00:26:55,624 Speaker 1: it's important to know what type of bird it was? 639 00:26:55,984 --> 00:26:58,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. After like when you said 640 00:26:58,544 --> 00:27:01,544 Speaker 2: magpie the tattoo just cause then. 641 00:27:01,424 --> 00:27:03,664 Speaker 1: They put their hands together and it's the tattoos that 642 00:27:03,704 --> 00:27:06,384 Speaker 1: they had done, and it's the two birds. The two 643 00:27:06,464 --> 00:27:08,864 Speaker 1: birds like with their big stoin and their wings join 644 00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:12,544 Speaker 1: and so their separate tattoo together make one tattoo, make 645 00:27:12,584 --> 00:27:15,864 Speaker 1: two birds. And then when the magpie comes, it's like 646 00:27:15,864 --> 00:27:17,944 Speaker 1: the spirit of Angie visiting the house to be like 647 00:27:17,944 --> 00:27:19,984 Speaker 1: it's okay, if you lost my ashes, I'm still here 648 00:27:20,024 --> 00:27:21,024 Speaker 1: for you now. 649 00:27:21,144 --> 00:27:23,824 Speaker 3: After like being confused with the time jump, I'm glad 650 00:27:23,904 --> 00:27:26,424 Speaker 3: they did it because we got to see majority of 651 00:27:26,464 --> 00:27:29,384 Speaker 3: the family mourn in those two years after, especially Ollie 652 00:27:29,424 --> 00:27:31,904 Speaker 3: when like the ashes were last and she was just 653 00:27:31,944 --> 00:27:33,664 Speaker 3: going through so much and it like all just came 654 00:27:33,704 --> 00:27:34,864 Speaker 3: out in one go. 655 00:27:35,184 --> 00:27:35,344 Speaker 1: Yeah. 656 00:27:35,424 --> 00:27:38,264 Speaker 2: I love how like her dead scene was just domb 657 00:27:38,304 --> 00:27:38,744 Speaker 2: and ed it. 658 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:42,144 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And I also think once you got into 659 00:27:42,184 --> 00:27:43,904 Speaker 1: the floor of you're right of what they were doing 660 00:27:43,904 --> 00:27:45,944 Speaker 1: with the episodes, it did work well because otherwise I 661 00:27:45,944 --> 00:27:47,544 Speaker 1: think that would have been too much to end the 662 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:50,104 Speaker 1: show on, whereas I think the way they actually ended 663 00:27:50,104 --> 00:27:51,784 Speaker 1: it with that final scene was the right way to 664 00:27:51,784 --> 00:27:53,904 Speaker 1: do it because it really book ended the first episode 665 00:27:53,944 --> 00:27:56,864 Speaker 1: where this time around, Ollie's pregnancy is not hidden at all. 666 00:27:56,944 --> 00:27:59,544 Speaker 1: It's so out there and she's so scared of it 667 00:27:59,624 --> 00:28:01,624 Speaker 1: because and people are saying to her, like even her 668 00:28:01,624 --> 00:28:03,544 Speaker 1: mother is saying, like, you've done this before, and she 669 00:28:03,584 --> 00:28:05,264 Speaker 1: was like yeah, and it was the worst moment of 670 00:28:05,264 --> 00:28:06,824 Speaker 1: my life because I did know what was happening to me, 671 00:28:06,944 --> 00:28:09,744 Speaker 1: like watching birth of video. Yeah, And then she's so scared, 672 00:28:09,824 --> 00:28:13,184 Speaker 1: and then their birth plan doesn't work out in terms 673 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,704 Speaker 1: of all the way through shes saying I just want 674 00:28:14,704 --> 00:28:16,104 Speaker 1: to be in a hospital with doctors and not in 675 00:28:16,104 --> 00:28:17,984 Speaker 1: the back of an ambulance not knowing what's going on, 676 00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:19,904 Speaker 1: and then they can't find the freaking car keys. When 677 00:28:19,904 --> 00:28:21,984 Speaker 1: she finally goes into labor, I was screaming at the TV, 678 00:28:22,064 --> 00:28:22,944 Speaker 1: are you serious? 679 00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:24,584 Speaker 2: You prepared so much? 680 00:28:24,864 --> 00:28:26,584 Speaker 1: He is a build up for this, and now she's 681 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:28,824 Speaker 1: and then they're out in the backyard and Santie's running 682 00:28:28,824 --> 00:28:30,744 Speaker 1: to get the pillows and blankets and putting under her 683 00:28:30,784 --> 00:28:33,384 Speaker 1: and she's screaming. I was like on my couch like this, 684 00:28:33,544 --> 00:28:36,264 Speaker 1: like this is fucking horrific. Yeah. And also I felt 685 00:28:36,264 --> 00:28:38,904 Speaker 1: so betrayed on behalf of Ollie as a character, because 686 00:28:38,944 --> 00:28:41,624 Speaker 1: I'm like, she deserved not that anyone gets what they 687 00:28:41,664 --> 00:28:44,344 Speaker 1: deserve with birth or any sort of health stuff, but 688 00:28:44,384 --> 00:28:46,344 Speaker 1: I was like, she's done so much, she's been through 689 00:28:46,344 --> 00:28:48,944 Speaker 1: so much, and now she has tried to set herself 690 00:28:49,024 --> 00:28:50,784 Speaker 1: up to be in control of her birth experience and 691 00:28:50,784 --> 00:28:52,984 Speaker 1: now it's all out of control. Everything's bad and she's 692 00:28:53,024 --> 00:28:56,424 Speaker 1: going to have another horrific, damaging experience. And then I 693 00:28:56,424 --> 00:28:59,744 Speaker 1: felt it was so loud, Yeah exactly. I was like, 694 00:28:59,744 --> 00:29:02,984 Speaker 1: she's been thrown off. But then you almost see her 695 00:29:03,144 --> 00:29:05,544 Speaker 1: like I think everyone had maybe had their own interpretation 696 00:29:05,624 --> 00:29:07,264 Speaker 1: of that final scene, but I kind of saw it 697 00:29:07,264 --> 00:29:09,744 Speaker 1: as when the camera really panned in on her and 698 00:29:10,064 --> 00:29:12,624 Speaker 1: she's really in the moment of giving birth and she's 699 00:29:12,664 --> 00:29:14,504 Speaker 1: in the pain and everything, but it's almost like she 700 00:29:14,584 --> 00:29:16,944 Speaker 1: takes control and she gives over and she feels like 701 00:29:17,024 --> 00:29:19,624 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. And the show finishes with 702 00:29:19,744 --> 00:29:21,824 Speaker 1: the camera on her face in that moment. It just 703 00:29:21,864 --> 00:29:23,704 Speaker 1: hold it there, And I thought that was a really 704 00:29:23,744 --> 00:29:26,224 Speaker 1: full circle moment from seeing her as this like scared 705 00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:29,584 Speaker 1: girl with her baby just coming out of her against 706 00:29:29,584 --> 00:29:32,944 Speaker 1: her control, to this woman who was like decided to 707 00:29:32,984 --> 00:29:36,064 Speaker 1: have this baby and is now like feeling like, I 708 00:29:36,064 --> 00:29:38,344 Speaker 1: guess empowered a bit by giving birth. 709 00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:39,064 Speaker 2: Yeah. 710 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:41,904 Speaker 3: I didn't even put that together, but yeah, because I 711 00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,104 Speaker 3: think I'm still so confused on what I'm watching. 712 00:29:44,184 --> 00:29:46,424 Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. You're like, I'm sorry, what is happening? 713 00:29:46,424 --> 00:29:46,584 Speaker 1: I am? 714 00:29:46,704 --> 00:29:47,224 Speaker 2: I agree. 715 00:29:47,264 --> 00:29:50,024 Speaker 3: I am really glad it ended on that episode, not 716 00:29:50,064 --> 00:29:51,904 Speaker 3: just because of the final scene was so good and 717 00:29:51,904 --> 00:29:56,184 Speaker 3: the drafted comparison to the first scene of season one, yeah, 718 00:29:56,304 --> 00:29:59,144 Speaker 3: episode one, but also I liked that they didn't just 719 00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:02,624 Speaker 3: end on Angie's death or like the two year jump. 720 00:30:02,704 --> 00:30:04,984 Speaker 3: After that, we got to see the whole family again, 721 00:30:05,384 --> 00:30:07,664 Speaker 3: how Angie was had that beautiful moment with just In 722 00:30:07,784 --> 00:30:10,504 Speaker 3: the like. I liked how it just felt like like 723 00:30:10,544 --> 00:30:14,144 Speaker 3: a fun like the whole episode before that was just still. 724 00:30:13,904 --> 00:30:14,704 Speaker 2: Fun in comedy. 725 00:30:14,904 --> 00:30:17,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, feel good, Yeah exactly. I mean that's what Clarly 726 00:30:18,024 --> 00:30:19,784 Speaker 1: Covin said. It's the feel good stuff and it's the 727 00:30:19,824 --> 00:30:23,304 Speaker 1: subversive stuff. So yeah, oh what a good show. 728 00:30:23,664 --> 00:30:26,744 Speaker 2: A good show. Its original freaking nailed. 729 00:30:26,464 --> 00:30:28,544 Speaker 1: It, absolutely nailed it. It feels like the real end 730 00:30:28,584 --> 00:30:31,104 Speaker 1: of an era without like knowing that this Christmas will come, 731 00:30:31,224 --> 00:30:33,304 Speaker 1: this New Year's will come and we won't have bump. 732 00:30:33,384 --> 00:30:36,344 Speaker 1: But what an incredible Austrange show. If anyone who hasn't 733 00:30:36,384 --> 00:30:37,944 Speaker 1: watched it first of all shouldn't have listened to this, 734 00:30:38,144 --> 00:30:40,624 Speaker 1: but definitely go back and watch all five seasons. I 735 00:30:40,704 --> 00:30:42,824 Speaker 1: feel like they'll be prime for a rewatch soon and 736 00:30:43,024 --> 00:30:45,064 Speaker 1: just like, I just love knowing that the show exists, 737 00:30:45,104 --> 00:30:46,184 Speaker 1: that we've got to experience it. 738 00:30:46,504 --> 00:30:48,784 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening today. If this is 739 00:30:48,824 --> 00:30:51,504 Speaker 3: your first time listening to a Brilliance review, wow, welcome. 740 00:30:51,624 --> 00:30:54,984 Speaker 3: We do so many of these, especially with massive blockbuster 741 00:30:55,184 --> 00:30:57,664 Speaker 3: TV shows or movies. We'll put some links to a 742 00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:59,904 Speaker 3: bunch of them in our show notes. The Spill is 743 00:30:59,944 --> 00:31:02,584 Speaker 3: produced by Kimberly British would sound production by Scott Stronik, 744 00:31:02,624 --> 00:31:04,384 Speaker 3: and we'll be back here on your podcast feed at 745 00:31:04,424 --> 00:31:05,344 Speaker 3: three pm on Monday. 746 00:31:05,584 --> 00:31:06,384 Speaker 1: Bye Bye 747 00:31:10,664 --> 00:31:11,624 Speaker 3: Cll UP, Cleve Up,