1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,664 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,664 --> 00:00:28,904 Speaker 3: to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. 6 00:00:29,104 --> 00:00:32,424 Speaker 1: I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Castane Luki and on the 7 00:00:32,464 --> 00:00:33,264 Speaker 1: show today. 8 00:00:33,264 --> 00:00:35,784 Speaker 3: So much drama happening, which we kind of love. Had 9 00:00:35,784 --> 00:00:37,304 Speaker 3: a bit of fun, Yeah, had a bit of fun. Well, 10 00:00:37,344 --> 00:00:39,344 Speaker 3: it's all fun drama because you know, no one's actually 11 00:00:39,344 --> 00:00:42,384 Speaker 3: getting hurt. But Renee Rap has released a new song 12 00:00:42,504 --> 00:00:45,304 Speaker 3: and there's some very telling lyrics in there about the 13 00:00:45,304 --> 00:00:47,864 Speaker 3: cancelation of her hit TV show, The Sex Sizes of 14 00:00:47,904 --> 00:00:50,544 Speaker 3: College Girls. What went on behind the scenes. I don't know. 15 00:00:50,664 --> 00:00:53,824 Speaker 3: Mindy Kaling's involved. It's a whole thing. We're getting into that. Plus, 16 00:00:53,864 --> 00:00:57,584 Speaker 3: the Beckham boys have been very active on Instagram over 17 00:00:57,624 --> 00:01:00,744 Speaker 3: the last couple of days. They've posted some things that 18 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:03,584 Speaker 3: have really confirmed that the family feud is happening, and 19 00:01:03,624 --> 00:01:06,064 Speaker 3: we're going to dive into that. It's all very messy, 20 00:01:06,184 --> 00:01:07,384 Speaker 3: but first, but for. 21 00:01:07,664 --> 00:01:10,504 Speaker 1: Something a little bit fun to start off with. Now, 22 00:01:10,544 --> 00:01:15,304 Speaker 1: Alexander Scarsguard has been blowing up our feedes with his 23 00:01:15,744 --> 00:01:19,784 Speaker 1: fashion choices. Now, I'm going to preface this by saying 24 00:01:19,864 --> 00:01:22,264 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it because I love it when men 25 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:24,664 Speaker 1: take risks with fashion and I aren't just wearing a 26 00:01:24,664 --> 00:01:26,184 Speaker 1: pair of jeans and a white T shirt. 27 00:01:26,264 --> 00:01:28,024 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to step it up at no shame. 28 00:01:28,384 --> 00:01:30,744 Speaker 1: So it all kind of started in Can when he 29 00:01:30,864 --> 00:01:34,104 Speaker 1: was doing his press for Pillion, which was released over 30 00:01:34,224 --> 00:01:36,504 Speaker 1: at Can this year, which is set to be released 31 00:01:36,544 --> 00:01:40,224 Speaker 1: later on in the year. Now, Pillion is basically it's 32 00:01:40,304 --> 00:01:46,304 Speaker 1: kind of like a BDSM sex biker no More movie. 33 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:46,904 Speaker 3: Got me. 34 00:01:47,224 --> 00:01:51,224 Speaker 1: It's actually got some really great reviews. Alexander Scarsguard plays 35 00:01:51,384 --> 00:01:56,264 Speaker 1: the biker guy, and then the guy who plays the 36 00:01:56,304 --> 00:02:00,504 Speaker 1: sub as in like the submissive in the relationship is 37 00:02:00,704 --> 00:02:03,584 Speaker 1: Harry Melling, who you might know as Dudley. 38 00:02:03,344 --> 00:02:04,984 Speaker 2: Dursley from the Harry Potter films. 39 00:02:05,104 --> 00:02:07,824 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, since that casting was announced, we've been just 40 00:02:07,944 --> 00:02:08,984 Speaker 3: waiting to see this movie. 41 00:02:09,104 --> 00:02:11,384 Speaker 1: So I'm actually really exc about the movie. But what 42 00:02:11,584 --> 00:02:14,304 Speaker 1: has kind of bled out, and we've seen this a 43 00:02:14,304 --> 00:02:17,784 Speaker 1: few times during press tours with celebrities, is they feed 44 00:02:17,824 --> 00:02:22,544 Speaker 1: off their character from the movie for their fashion choices 45 00:02:22,584 --> 00:02:26,304 Speaker 1: for the press tour, and Alexander Scarsguard is kind of 46 00:02:26,344 --> 00:02:29,744 Speaker 1: doing that, and he's doing it in this really camp 47 00:02:30,704 --> 00:02:33,824 Speaker 1: fun way, which I'm thoroughly enjoying. 48 00:02:34,224 --> 00:02:36,984 Speaker 2: But I think the thing that everybody's. 49 00:02:36,344 --> 00:02:38,664 Speaker 1: Like really up and arms about is his little school 50 00:02:38,664 --> 00:02:41,984 Speaker 1: boy shorts. He did an appearance on Lorraine, which is 51 00:02:42,024 --> 00:02:45,464 Speaker 1: like a breakfast TV show in the UK, and he 52 00:02:45,584 --> 00:02:47,984 Speaker 1: got up and just listened to this. 53 00:02:48,464 --> 00:02:51,944 Speaker 2: Your fashion is just so it's out there and free. 54 00:02:52,304 --> 00:02:54,744 Speaker 3: Thank you. I wanted to be sexy today and I 55 00:02:54,784 --> 00:02:56,104 Speaker 3: thought there's nothing. 56 00:02:55,864 --> 00:02:56,624 Speaker 2: Could you stand up? 57 00:02:56,664 --> 00:02:59,264 Speaker 3: Would you mind sexier than a middle aged man in 58 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:00,784 Speaker 3: a British school boy uniform. 59 00:03:01,024 --> 00:03:04,624 Speaker 1: I love the tiny, tiny, tiny little shorts. So the 60 00:03:04,664 --> 00:03:08,064 Speaker 1: outfits actually from S. S. Daley's Fall twenty twenty five collection, 61 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:12,864 Speaker 1: big British designer. He's wearing these penny loafers and these 62 00:03:12,904 --> 00:03:14,544 Speaker 1: carve high white socks. 63 00:03:14,624 --> 00:03:15,944 Speaker 2: It is camp. 64 00:03:16,064 --> 00:03:17,944 Speaker 3: We'll pop the photos up on our Instagram account. But 65 00:03:18,264 --> 00:03:21,704 Speaker 3: I cannot explain to you how short and fitted these 66 00:03:21,704 --> 00:03:24,464 Speaker 3: little shorts are, with the little socks and the loafers 67 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:26,864 Speaker 3: and the sheepish way that he stood up and did 68 00:03:26,904 --> 00:03:29,264 Speaker 3: like a little wiggle and then sat back and then. 69 00:03:29,184 --> 00:03:31,304 Speaker 2: Put his little legs together as well, kind of. 70 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:33,384 Speaker 3: Like little This man's like six foot six. 71 00:03:33,704 --> 00:03:34,624 Speaker 2: I actually really like it. 72 00:03:34,664 --> 00:03:36,264 Speaker 1: Now. What I want to talk about a little bit 73 00:03:36,344 --> 00:03:40,344 Speaker 1: is he's styled by Harry Lambert and now this stylist, 74 00:03:40,584 --> 00:03:42,824 Speaker 1: he's a contributed fashionate at a Vogue. 75 00:03:43,064 --> 00:03:44,184 Speaker 2: He's also known for. 76 00:03:44,184 --> 00:03:48,344 Speaker 1: Styling emmacorran like a really big stylist. Now, I think 77 00:03:48,384 --> 00:03:51,424 Speaker 1: what they're leaning into is this kind of really camp 78 00:03:52,184 --> 00:03:56,144 Speaker 1: vibe and kind of working with the movie. 79 00:03:56,224 --> 00:03:59,664 Speaker 2: Like on Can he's wearing these thigh high wiresl. 80 00:03:59,184 --> 00:04:03,904 Speaker 1: Boots that are like biker or he's wearing a tux 81 00:04:03,984 --> 00:04:06,384 Speaker 1: up top and then glitter pants on the side. So 82 00:04:06,984 --> 00:04:11,304 Speaker 1: I actually quite appreciate the fact that one he's leaning 83 00:04:11,344 --> 00:04:14,424 Speaker 1: into camp culture and a little bit into that BDSM 84 00:04:14,584 --> 00:04:20,064 Speaker 1: subculture that we see particularly within the LGBTQI plus space, 85 00:04:20,344 --> 00:04:22,664 Speaker 1: and this kind of maybe I'm reading too much into it, 86 00:04:22,704 --> 00:04:25,064 Speaker 1: but this is what I'm getting from a yeah, and 87 00:04:25,184 --> 00:04:28,464 Speaker 1: kind of leaning into that the leather and the you know, 88 00:04:28,704 --> 00:04:31,184 Speaker 1: chains and whips, excitement kind of vibe. 89 00:04:31,704 --> 00:04:33,104 Speaker 2: But what do you think about it? What do you 90 00:04:33,104 --> 00:04:33,864 Speaker 2: think about the shows? 91 00:04:33,944 --> 00:04:36,744 Speaker 3: You said to me that it gave you the well, yeah, 92 00:04:36,984 --> 00:04:39,544 Speaker 3: I've really wrestled with this all weekend. I must be 93 00:04:39,584 --> 00:04:41,304 Speaker 3: honest about this. This is keeping me up at nine, 94 00:04:41,304 --> 00:04:44,144 Speaker 3: and not even a joke about that, because, like everyone else, 95 00:04:44,264 --> 00:04:47,384 Speaker 3: I fell head over hills in love with Alexander scara'sgard 96 00:04:47,704 --> 00:04:51,104 Speaker 3: watching him as Eric Northman pretty much on the sexiest 97 00:04:51,144 --> 00:04:53,624 Speaker 3: vampires in the whole world in True Blood, and that 98 00:04:53,704 --> 00:04:56,664 Speaker 3: performance is like so of the top. He's so like 99 00:04:56,784 --> 00:04:58,904 Speaker 3: vicious and manly, but he also has a real camp 100 00:04:58,944 --> 00:05:01,304 Speaker 3: factor as that character, and that's like a really defining 101 00:05:01,344 --> 00:05:04,504 Speaker 3: moment for his career, and since then he's always been 102 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:07,984 Speaker 3: this like artistic, but also he looks like a freaking viking, like, 103 00:05:08,024 --> 00:05:10,864 Speaker 3: you know, so manly and stuff. And so when I 104 00:05:10,944 --> 00:05:13,384 Speaker 3: saw him stand up in those little shorts and kind 105 00:05:13,424 --> 00:05:16,264 Speaker 3: of do like a little embarrassed wiggle with his like 106 00:05:16,344 --> 00:05:19,664 Speaker 3: little loaf of shoes pointing inwards and saying like, I'm 107 00:05:19,704 --> 00:05:21,744 Speaker 3: a middle aged man dressing like a schoolboy. I think 108 00:05:21,744 --> 00:05:24,304 Speaker 3: he's like forty eight, and then kind of sitting down, 109 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:26,344 Speaker 3: I was just like, I honestly just got the ick 110 00:05:26,424 --> 00:05:29,104 Speaker 3: for a second. I've moved past it. I have decided 111 00:05:29,104 --> 00:05:31,624 Speaker 3: they're hot and sexy, and I love the intentional fashion, 112 00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:34,424 Speaker 3: but it just was a little bit confronting, not that 113 00:05:34,464 --> 00:05:37,784 Speaker 3: I find really Broie guys hot or anything. But there's 114 00:05:37,824 --> 00:05:40,144 Speaker 3: just usually he's just kind of sauntering down a red 115 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:43,264 Speaker 3: carpet in like his little fashion outfits. And I've never 116 00:05:43,304 --> 00:05:46,184 Speaker 3: seen him wiggle in hot pants. No, I understand why 117 00:05:46,184 --> 00:05:47,544 Speaker 3: he's doing it. 118 00:05:47,144 --> 00:05:49,304 Speaker 1: As a bit of a fashion girl, Like I really 119 00:05:49,424 --> 00:05:55,704 Speaker 1: enjoy when people lean into something, and I actually find 120 00:05:55,744 --> 00:05:59,824 Speaker 1: it more sexy that he's not like afraid. 121 00:05:59,384 --> 00:06:01,264 Speaker 3: To not take himself seriously. 122 00:06:01,344 --> 00:06:04,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not afraid to take this risk and wear 123 00:06:04,024 --> 00:06:08,184 Speaker 1: these thigh high leather boots or glittery pants like that 124 00:06:08,304 --> 00:06:12,144 Speaker 1: to me is the ultimate in man. Yeah, being a man, 125 00:06:12,264 --> 00:06:15,184 Speaker 1: like being that comfortable in your sexuality that that's not 126 00:06:15,424 --> 00:06:18,704 Speaker 1: gonna bother you. Also, Pillion, he's playing a gay biker 127 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:22,864 Speaker 1: who is a dom to he's playing a gay man. 128 00:06:23,144 --> 00:06:25,224 Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's the ultimate. 129 00:06:25,744 --> 00:06:28,384 Speaker 3: He wants. Yeah, he wants his fashion to reflect the 130 00:06:28,384 --> 00:06:30,584 Speaker 3: mood of the film, which I told like, And look, 131 00:06:30,584 --> 00:06:32,584 Speaker 3: we know he's a quirky guy. He often answers on 132 00:06:32,624 --> 00:06:35,264 Speaker 3: red carpets like he'll never give a straightforward answer. He's 133 00:06:35,344 --> 00:06:37,624 Speaker 3: really off with the fairies in a fun way. He'll 134 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,584 Speaker 3: do things like get a huge touchhoo on his leg 135 00:06:39,664 --> 00:06:41,904 Speaker 3: from a drawing that his brother Bill died as a 136 00:06:41,984 --> 00:06:43,624 Speaker 3: kid and then show it to his brother. This is 137 00:06:43,624 --> 00:06:45,464 Speaker 3: like a recent thing on his press tour, and his 138 00:06:45,504 --> 00:06:48,624 Speaker 3: brother's like, I have no memory of drawing this, and 139 00:06:48,824 --> 00:06:50,944 Speaker 3: Alexander's in his head thinking that he's done this really 140 00:06:50,944 --> 00:06:54,064 Speaker 3: meaningful thing for like his famous family. And also it's 141 00:06:54,144 --> 00:06:56,424 Speaker 3: kind of smart because he's very very private, Like we 142 00:06:56,504 --> 00:06:58,144 Speaker 3: know he's married, we know he has a kid. We 143 00:06:58,184 --> 00:07:00,664 Speaker 3: don't really know anything about his wife, although freaking jels 144 00:07:00,664 --> 00:07:00,864 Speaker 3: of her. 145 00:07:00,944 --> 00:07:06,264 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Yeah, those legs were gloss. Whoever 146 00:07:06,424 --> 00:07:10,904 Speaker 1: did the grooming Alexander, they definitely gave him the gloss 147 00:07:10,904 --> 00:07:13,224 Speaker 1: treatment on those thighs because they were glissy. 148 00:07:13,304 --> 00:07:15,784 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had some grimming and maintenance done one 149 00:07:15,864 --> 00:07:17,984 Speaker 3: hundred percent. And that's the thing. Like, it's kind of 150 00:07:18,024 --> 00:07:19,944 Speaker 3: worked in exactly the way that he and his team 151 00:07:19,944 --> 00:07:22,984 Speaker 3: would have wanted. They're obviously very like aware of viral 152 00:07:23,024 --> 00:07:25,144 Speaker 3: culture and how much and like internet culture and how 153 00:07:25,184 --> 00:07:28,024 Speaker 3: much everyone's going to post this. It's really endeared him 154 00:07:28,624 --> 00:07:30,704 Speaker 3: or given some people the ick, like me, but at 155 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:32,704 Speaker 3: least we're talking about him and we've come back around 156 00:07:32,704 --> 00:07:35,504 Speaker 3: and had this emotional thing, and then no one's asking 157 00:07:35,584 --> 00:07:39,064 Speaker 3: him any questions about his very very famous family or 158 00:07:39,104 --> 00:07:41,384 Speaker 3: his personal life or anything like that. So it's almost 159 00:07:41,424 --> 00:07:43,264 Speaker 3: like the perfect press to a look. Yeah, and we 160 00:07:43,344 --> 00:07:44,104 Speaker 3: got to see his legs. 161 00:07:44,144 --> 00:07:46,184 Speaker 1: Look at the end of the day, I am shouting 162 00:07:46,184 --> 00:07:49,024 Speaker 1: out Harry Lambert again, but yause he's been styling him 163 00:07:49,144 --> 00:07:52,184 Speaker 1: and I think he's done an amazing job on the 164 00:07:52,264 --> 00:07:56,024 Speaker 1: tour and like lots of like vintage teas, lots of 165 00:07:56,104 --> 00:08:00,904 Speaker 1: like you know, biker things and kind of contrasting between 166 00:08:01,424 --> 00:08:05,384 Speaker 1: that feminine and masculine energy. And I actually really love 167 00:08:05,504 --> 00:08:08,864 Speaker 1: that side of fashion. I love that mix of feminine 168 00:08:08,864 --> 00:08:12,264 Speaker 1: and masculine energy, particular after you know, we're looking at 169 00:08:12,264 --> 00:08:15,024 Speaker 1: something like the met which was you know, dandy, and 170 00:08:15,544 --> 00:08:19,744 Speaker 1: it was so focused on men's fashion, particularly Black American 171 00:08:19,784 --> 00:08:23,704 Speaker 1: men African American men's fashion. So I love it when 172 00:08:23,744 --> 00:08:27,664 Speaker 1: men take risks in fashion, and I love that he's 173 00:08:27,744 --> 00:08:30,704 Speaker 1: game for it and he's happy to just like show 174 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:32,024 Speaker 1: off his cute little thighs. 175 00:08:34,024 --> 00:08:36,424 Speaker 3: Okay, onto another story that has been bubbling away over 176 00:08:36,424 --> 00:08:38,384 Speaker 3: the last few days, and that is the fact that 177 00:08:38,384 --> 00:08:40,824 Speaker 3: Renee Rap, who people would know from the Sex Lives 178 00:08:40,864 --> 00:08:44,064 Speaker 3: of College Girls also the Mean Girls musical movie, so 179 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:47,384 Speaker 3: she played Regina George on Broadway and then also played 180 00:08:47,424 --> 00:08:51,464 Speaker 3: her in Tina Fey's live adaptation. Has released a new 181 00:08:51,504 --> 00:08:53,784 Speaker 3: single so her new album, Bite Me is coming out 182 00:08:53,824 --> 00:08:55,904 Speaker 3: in August of this year, but the first single was 183 00:08:55,984 --> 00:08:59,064 Speaker 3: released this week called leave Me Alone and Look. It's 184 00:08:59,064 --> 00:09:01,184 Speaker 3: a bit of a bop. You don't like it. 185 00:09:01,184 --> 00:09:03,984 Speaker 1: It's like two minutes of the same line over and 186 00:09:04,024 --> 00:09:07,464 Speaker 1: over again. She's talk singing too. Yeah, Like if I 187 00:09:07,544 --> 00:09:09,984 Speaker 1: didn't know the capabilities of her voice, I would not 188 00:09:10,024 --> 00:09:10,784 Speaker 1: think she could sing. 189 00:09:10,904 --> 00:09:13,224 Speaker 3: Okay. This is something I've never really said out loud before, 190 00:09:13,224 --> 00:09:14,304 Speaker 3: but I guess I'll say it. Well, it's to she 191 00:09:14,424 --> 00:09:16,424 Speaker 3: and me and a few friends who are listening. Is 192 00:09:16,424 --> 00:09:18,624 Speaker 3: that I'm not a fan of Rene Raps pop music. 193 00:09:18,624 --> 00:09:20,584 Speaker 3: I don't mind it. There's a few songs that are 194 00:09:20,624 --> 00:09:23,784 Speaker 3: bang is, but I just I know people who love 195 00:09:24,344 --> 00:09:25,664 Speaker 3: and there's music I don't. 196 00:09:25,824 --> 00:09:28,784 Speaker 1: Please, Please don't come for me. I'm sorry. It's just 197 00:09:28,824 --> 00:09:32,424 Speaker 1: my generation. I'm a millennial. It's not about May. This 198 00:09:32,504 --> 00:09:33,424 Speaker 1: is for May. 199 00:09:33,544 --> 00:09:34,144 Speaker 2: I get it. 200 00:09:34,424 --> 00:09:36,184 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that. I know heaps of my 201 00:09:36,264 --> 00:09:38,584 Speaker 3: friends love her pop music. I think more so like 202 00:09:38,624 --> 00:09:40,264 Speaker 3: I'm a bit like you were. I think her voice 203 00:09:40,344 --> 00:09:43,664 Speaker 3: is so incredibly suited to that musical theater style, and 204 00:09:43,704 --> 00:09:45,664 Speaker 3: I know she's got some ballads and things like that, 205 00:09:45,704 --> 00:09:47,104 Speaker 3: but I would just I just want to listen to 206 00:09:47,104 --> 00:09:49,704 Speaker 3: her seeing musical theater tunes. But you know, she's got 207 00:09:49,784 --> 00:09:51,904 Speaker 3: enough fans she doesn't need us. I'm a fan of 208 00:09:51,944 --> 00:09:54,864 Speaker 3: her in many other ways, particularly her acting. But her 209 00:09:54,904 --> 00:09:57,504 Speaker 3: new single leave Me Alone, came out and there are 210 00:09:57,504 --> 00:10:00,904 Speaker 3: a few lyrics that have got some fans thinking that 211 00:10:01,744 --> 00:10:03,624 Speaker 3: there's been a bit of a feud bubbling away behind 212 00:10:03,664 --> 00:10:04,104 Speaker 3: the scenes. 213 00:10:11,864 --> 00:10:14,584 Speaker 1: I'm so excnice with me in another show a. 214 00:10:14,904 --> 00:10:21,344 Speaker 3: Fucking so in that part of the song, the lyrics 215 00:10:21,384 --> 00:10:24,704 Speaker 3: say sign a hundred NDAs, but I still say something 216 00:10:25,144 --> 00:10:27,584 Speaker 3: leave me alone, bitch, I want to have fun. I 217 00:10:27,624 --> 00:10:30,224 Speaker 3: took my sex life with me now the show ain't 218 00:10:30,264 --> 00:10:33,224 Speaker 3: fucking And there's really no other way to read that 219 00:10:33,384 --> 00:10:36,304 Speaker 3: is that she's taking a little stab at how the 220 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:38,624 Speaker 3: sex lives of college girls ended. So, if you know 221 00:10:38,664 --> 00:10:41,104 Speaker 3: across Mindy Kayling was like the creator and right of 222 00:10:41,104 --> 00:10:43,184 Speaker 3: that show, but there's a huge, big team behind it, 223 00:10:43,584 --> 00:10:46,504 Speaker 3: and Renee Rapp was one of the really big breakout stars, 224 00:10:46,584 --> 00:10:50,344 Speaker 3: or pretty much the breakout star of that show, and 225 00:10:50,624 --> 00:10:53,544 Speaker 3: after she announced that she was leaving the show, which 226 00:10:53,624 --> 00:10:56,784 Speaker 3: was a bit of controversy around that, because she put 227 00:10:56,864 --> 00:10:58,824 Speaker 3: up a tweet saying that she was leaving and she 228 00:10:58,824 --> 00:11:01,144 Speaker 3: said really lovely things about the show, and then Mindy 229 00:11:01,184 --> 00:11:03,384 Speaker 3: Kayling put up a statement saying how much they loved 230 00:11:03,384 --> 00:11:06,624 Speaker 3: and supported Renee. Prior to that, Renee had talked about 231 00:11:06,664 --> 00:11:08,824 Speaker 3: how difficult being on the show was. Not so much 232 00:11:08,824 --> 00:11:11,144 Speaker 3: to anyone at the time she was saying was being 233 00:11:11,184 --> 00:11:13,064 Speaker 3: awful to her behind the scenes or anything like that. 234 00:11:13,144 --> 00:11:15,104 Speaker 3: She was just saying that at the time, she was 235 00:11:15,104 --> 00:11:17,664 Speaker 3: in a heteronormative relationship and she was trying to come 236 00:11:17,704 --> 00:11:20,784 Speaker 3: to terms with being queer. Yeah, and she'd also been 237 00:11:20,824 --> 00:11:23,904 Speaker 3: bullied relentlessly on Broadway and mean girls for her body 238 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:26,144 Speaker 3: and people telling she was too fat to play Regina 239 00:11:26,184 --> 00:11:27,984 Speaker 3: George and now she's on this hit TV show when 240 00:11:28,024 --> 00:11:30,984 Speaker 3: she was also getting critiqued by people and behind the 241 00:11:30,984 --> 00:11:33,584 Speaker 3: scenes she was coming to terms of being queer while 242 00:11:33,624 --> 00:11:35,384 Speaker 3: her character was coming out as queer on the show. 243 00:11:35,424 --> 00:11:37,184 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of like an emotional toll 244 00:11:37,504 --> 00:11:40,264 Speaker 3: wrapped up in there. But at the time, there was 245 00:11:40,344 --> 00:11:43,304 Speaker 3: also a lot of speculation that the way she had left. 246 00:11:43,344 --> 00:11:45,864 Speaker 3: The Sex Lives of College Girls had caused a bit 247 00:11:45,864 --> 00:11:48,544 Speaker 3: of friction behind the scenes because apparently she had a 248 00:11:48,584 --> 00:11:52,224 Speaker 3: few more years left on her contract, and she again 249 00:11:52,264 --> 00:11:54,904 Speaker 3: allegedly hired a lawyer to try and get her out 250 00:11:54,904 --> 00:11:58,504 Speaker 3: of the contract, and she was starring the Mean Girls movie, 251 00:11:58,504 --> 00:12:00,344 Speaker 3: and she wanted to tour an album, and she wanted 252 00:12:00,384 --> 00:12:02,824 Speaker 3: to be on stage performing, And she had always said 253 00:12:02,824 --> 00:12:05,264 Speaker 3: that acting had become a way to substitute her music, 254 00:12:05,344 --> 00:12:07,944 Speaker 3: not her main passion, and so what people think has 255 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:10,864 Speaker 3: happened is that she got really, really famous. She put 256 00:12:10,864 --> 00:12:12,944 Speaker 3: out a tweet saying she was leaving the show, and 257 00:12:13,064 --> 00:12:17,104 Speaker 3: the show had no choice but to save face, because 258 00:12:17,144 --> 00:12:19,664 Speaker 3: I know how beloved she is, had no choice but 259 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:21,424 Speaker 3: to kind of just let her go and make it 260 00:12:21,464 --> 00:12:23,704 Speaker 3: look like it was all above board. Her character left 261 00:12:23,704 --> 00:12:26,424 Speaker 3: the show, and then the show got canceled, which is 262 00:12:26,464 --> 00:12:28,504 Speaker 3: what she's kind of saying here, I left. Now the 263 00:12:28,504 --> 00:12:30,624 Speaker 3: show ain't fucking as if I left, and you couldn't 264 00:12:30,624 --> 00:12:32,264 Speaker 3: do it without me, which is the first kind of 265 00:12:32,304 --> 00:12:35,424 Speaker 3: really intense things she said about the show. Yeah, I mean, 266 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:36,144 Speaker 3: I actually. 267 00:12:35,904 --> 00:12:37,864 Speaker 1: Also read somewhere else that she talks a little bit 268 00:12:37,864 --> 00:12:41,704 Speaker 1: about how despite the way that the show finished, it 269 00:12:41,744 --> 00:12:43,704 Speaker 1: did kind of help her come to terms with her 270 00:12:43,704 --> 00:12:47,944 Speaker 1: own sexuality, and in that sense, maybe it was helpful 271 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:50,824 Speaker 1: for her, but obviously it was just quite a tumultuous 272 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:54,504 Speaker 1: time for her, not just in an acting sense, but 273 00:12:54,544 --> 00:12:55,544 Speaker 1: also personally. 274 00:12:55,584 --> 00:12:57,584 Speaker 2: And I think it would be really hard to be. 275 00:12:58,184 --> 00:13:02,024 Speaker 1: Performing in a series and also trying to figure yourself out. 276 00:13:02,024 --> 00:13:04,144 Speaker 1: She's only twenty five, but she's born in two thousand. 277 00:13:04,944 --> 00:13:07,744 Speaker 1: She's still a baby, like not a baby, but she's 278 00:13:07,784 --> 00:13:10,344 Speaker 1: still young. Yeah, so I can imagine that being really 279 00:13:10,584 --> 00:13:13,744 Speaker 1: challenging for her. Yeah, I don't love the song. I'm 280 00:13:13,784 --> 00:13:16,464 Speaker 1: really happy for her that she's like found herself and 281 00:13:16,944 --> 00:13:19,184 Speaker 1: you know, she's doing all of these like the whole thing. 282 00:13:19,184 --> 00:13:19,984 Speaker 2: It's all women. 283 00:13:20,104 --> 00:13:24,104 Speaker 1: It's all like pillow fights and sexy girls and getting 284 00:13:24,184 --> 00:13:27,144 Speaker 1: drunk and kind of giving me a bit of like kesher. 285 00:13:27,824 --> 00:13:30,944 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, wake up in the morning. Not p did it, 286 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:32,984 Speaker 1: but you know it's kind of giving that just like 287 00:13:33,264 --> 00:13:37,584 Speaker 1: a woman exploring her own sexuality, a woman taking charge 288 00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:40,544 Speaker 1: of herself, and that I think is what this album 289 00:13:41,384 --> 00:13:42,304 Speaker 1: is going to be. 290 00:13:42,424 --> 00:13:45,104 Speaker 2: It's about her taking control. 291 00:13:45,264 --> 00:13:47,344 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And that's a reason why people love her 292 00:13:47,424 --> 00:13:50,704 Speaker 3: music so much, is that it is so raw and autographical, 293 00:13:51,104 --> 00:13:53,064 Speaker 3: and a lot of people find like a lot of 294 00:13:53,104 --> 00:13:54,904 Speaker 3: solace and the lyrics of how she or just all 295 00:13:54,944 --> 00:13:57,184 Speaker 3: sometimes she even just a release for like anger at 296 00:13:57,184 --> 00:13:58,944 Speaker 3: the world and like people who try and keep you down, 297 00:13:58,984 --> 00:14:00,824 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. So I get it, but like, 298 00:14:00,864 --> 00:14:02,224 Speaker 3: I don't think you can look at this and think 299 00:14:02,224 --> 00:14:04,824 Speaker 3: that it's not a very tactical thing. That the first 300 00:14:04,864 --> 00:14:07,784 Speaker 3: song off her upcoming album, and you really want a 301 00:14:07,824 --> 00:14:10,664 Speaker 3: lot of press around that so you get all those 302 00:14:10,704 --> 00:14:13,504 Speaker 3: big downloads in the week it comes out, so it 303 00:14:13,544 --> 00:14:15,544 Speaker 3: goes up the charts. Like it's like with movies now, 304 00:14:15,584 --> 00:14:17,144 Speaker 3: like you have to kill it at the box office 305 00:14:17,144 --> 00:14:19,824 Speaker 3: the first weekend, otherwise it's seemed as a failure. And 306 00:14:19,864 --> 00:14:22,424 Speaker 3: I think music's the same sort of thing where you 307 00:14:22,544 --> 00:14:24,744 Speaker 3: really have to get those streams and those downloads and 308 00:14:24,784 --> 00:14:26,944 Speaker 3: everything in the first couple of days for it to 309 00:14:27,024 --> 00:14:29,824 Speaker 3: really count. And so I think everyone going to listen 310 00:14:29,864 --> 00:14:33,864 Speaker 3: to those lyrics knowing that she hasn't really spoken about 311 00:14:33,904 --> 00:14:36,864 Speaker 3: like an alleged feud, but this is almost confirming it. 312 00:14:36,864 --> 00:14:39,024 Speaker 3: It just it does seem really tactical. But I also 313 00:14:39,024 --> 00:14:39,904 Speaker 3: want to get it, like. 314 00:14:39,984 --> 00:14:41,304 Speaker 2: We know how this works. 315 00:14:41,424 --> 00:14:45,144 Speaker 1: Laura of course it's tactical, but it's juicy and it's 316 00:14:45,224 --> 00:14:48,184 Speaker 1: fun and like, I don't love the song, but I 317 00:14:48,224 --> 00:14:49,064 Speaker 1: mean good on over. 318 00:14:49,224 --> 00:14:51,384 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's also set herself up a little bit now 319 00:14:51,384 --> 00:14:53,104 Speaker 3: because she'll go and do so much press before the 320 00:14:53,144 --> 00:14:55,664 Speaker 3: album comes out, and now that she's put those lyrics 321 00:14:55,664 --> 00:14:58,504 Speaker 3: in there, it does give interviewers a proper reason to 322 00:14:58,544 --> 00:15:00,184 Speaker 3: ask her about it. But I'm sure she'll sort of 323 00:15:00,224 --> 00:15:02,464 Speaker 3: deflect and say, you know, it's more about like this 324 00:15:02,664 --> 00:15:04,024 Speaker 3: headspace she was in when the show. 325 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:05,064 Speaker 2: Do you think she will? 326 00:15:05,104 --> 00:15:07,664 Speaker 1: I feel like she's pretty like depending on the NBA 327 00:15:07,864 --> 00:15:10,744 Speaker 1: she signed, but I mean she wrote by me. I 328 00:15:10,824 --> 00:15:12,904 Speaker 1: watched the film clear, you know, she wrote bite me 329 00:15:12,944 --> 00:15:16,024 Speaker 1: at the bottom of these NDA's, Like she's like maybe 330 00:15:16,064 --> 00:15:18,504 Speaker 1: she's at this point where she's like, I don't give 331 00:15:18,504 --> 00:15:21,664 Speaker 1: a fuck. I am just gonna say whatever I want. Yeah, 332 00:15:21,784 --> 00:15:23,824 Speaker 1: And that's kind of her brando. 333 00:15:24,064 --> 00:15:25,944 Speaker 3: And also I think she's very aware how much the 334 00:15:25,944 --> 00:15:27,864 Speaker 3: public's on her side, because it would be such a 335 00:15:27,904 --> 00:15:30,624 Speaker 3: bad look for like Netflix and like Mindy Kaling's production 336 00:15:30,744 --> 00:15:33,744 Speaker 3: company to sue Renate and rap, knowing how like beloved 337 00:15:33,784 --> 00:15:36,784 Speaker 3: she is for you know, breaking her NDA. So even 338 00:15:36,824 --> 00:15:39,424 Speaker 3: though they technically could do it. That would also be 339 00:15:39,504 --> 00:15:41,304 Speaker 3: quite a bad look. It's kind of why no one 340 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:43,624 Speaker 3: called her out when she just went ahead. It seems 341 00:15:43,664 --> 00:15:45,584 Speaker 3: like and announce she was leaving the show and like 342 00:15:45,784 --> 00:15:48,224 Speaker 3: put them into a corner, because then it would have 343 00:15:48,224 --> 00:15:49,824 Speaker 3: looked like the show was trying to force her to 344 00:15:49,864 --> 00:15:52,264 Speaker 3: be on it, which also would have upset people. But yeah, 345 00:15:52,264 --> 00:15:54,424 Speaker 3: she is a very honest person. And also maybe there 346 00:15:54,464 --> 00:15:55,784 Speaker 3: are things you can just say in a song that 347 00:15:55,784 --> 00:15:57,384 Speaker 3: you can't say in an interview. You can't say in 348 00:15:57,384 --> 00:16:00,184 Speaker 3: a caption because it's too literal, Whereas I think if 349 00:16:00,184 --> 00:16:02,224 Speaker 3: you bury it in a song, there's a little bit 350 00:16:02,224 --> 00:16:06,584 Speaker 3: of room for interpretation. If this is pretty literal, Yeah, maybe, Yeah, 351 00:16:06,584 --> 00:16:08,984 Speaker 3: she's not. Really When I say barry interpretation, she's like, 352 00:16:09,024 --> 00:16:10,384 Speaker 3: now the show ain't fucking it's. 353 00:16:10,984 --> 00:16:13,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave me alone, bitch, I want to have fun, 354 00:16:13,904 --> 00:16:15,584 Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's pretty literal. 355 00:16:15,824 --> 00:16:18,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, I look forward to her press because 356 00:16:18,104 --> 00:16:19,624 Speaker 3: the thing is about Renee wrapped. She gives a good 357 00:16:19,624 --> 00:16:24,824 Speaker 3: press to her when she's being interviewed. So exactly twenty 358 00:16:24,904 --> 00:16:28,464 Speaker 3: three hours ago at the time of recording, Young Brooklyn 359 00:16:28,504 --> 00:16:32,504 Speaker 3: Beckham posted something very telling to Instagram. It's a very 360 00:16:32,544 --> 00:16:35,744 Speaker 3: Brooklyn Beckham. It's a video of him on a motorbike 361 00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:39,104 Speaker 3: going through the streets of la with a helmet on. 362 00:16:39,184 --> 00:16:42,464 Speaker 3: It is very safety conscious and he's holding on to 363 00:16:42,584 --> 00:16:46,184 Speaker 3: his wife, Nikola Ann Peltz Beckham, who's clinging onto the 364 00:16:46,224 --> 00:16:48,664 Speaker 3: back of him on the motorbike and he's holding her hand, 365 00:16:48,824 --> 00:16:52,664 Speaker 3: and underneath the video he's written my whole world kiss, 366 00:16:53,224 --> 00:16:58,304 Speaker 3: I will love you forever. Kiss. I always choose you, baby, Kiss. 367 00:16:59,024 --> 00:17:02,784 Speaker 3: You're the most amazing person I know. Lower case, I kiss, 368 00:17:02,864 --> 00:17:06,984 Speaker 3: kiss me and you forever, baby, love heart, love heart. 369 00:17:07,704 --> 00:17:09,704 Speaker 3: Now at any other and no, that was you're just 370 00:17:09,704 --> 00:17:11,144 Speaker 3: look at me like that. That was a lot. That 371 00:17:11,344 --> 00:17:13,384 Speaker 3: was a lot I did to give the tone of her. 372 00:17:13,504 --> 00:17:17,864 Speaker 1: I know it. It is a fawning over the wife, 373 00:17:18,344 --> 00:17:22,504 Speaker 1: and which in isolation is fine. 374 00:17:22,744 --> 00:17:25,304 Speaker 3: Yeah, to the naked eye, this looks fine and if 375 00:17:25,344 --> 00:17:28,264 Speaker 3: not a little deranged with how are they filming themselves 376 00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:29,624 Speaker 3: in the motorbike? That's what I want to you know, 377 00:17:29,664 --> 00:17:31,264 Speaker 3: he's got a helmet on, but apart from that, it's 378 00:17:31,344 --> 00:17:32,304 Speaker 3: very unsafe behavior. 379 00:17:32,424 --> 00:17:34,184 Speaker 2: He's also doing it one handed. 380 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:37,584 Speaker 1: He's holding her hand, he's holding her while he's right, no, no, 381 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:40,104 Speaker 1: thank you, couldn't get me on the back of a 382 00:17:40,144 --> 00:17:43,744 Speaker 1: motorcyclift like you paid me love a motorcycle. 383 00:17:43,824 --> 00:17:45,224 Speaker 3: But I don't know how i'd feel if the little 384 00:17:45,264 --> 00:17:47,344 Speaker 3: fuck boy in front of me was filming and trying 385 00:17:47,344 --> 00:17:49,184 Speaker 3: to give like sexy eyes to the camera instead of 386 00:17:49,224 --> 00:17:51,744 Speaker 3: watching the road. But anyway, but yes to the naked eye, 387 00:17:51,744 --> 00:17:54,544 Speaker 3: this looks like a normal post because Brooklyn Beckham, ever 388 00:17:54,584 --> 00:17:59,104 Speaker 3: since the moment he met Nikola, has been posting really fawning, 389 00:17:59,264 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 3: lovey dobby captions about her. So that's totally fine. It's 390 00:18:02,744 --> 00:18:05,104 Speaker 3: the line in there, I will always choose you, and 391 00:18:05,144 --> 00:18:08,064 Speaker 3: the timing of the post that's got so many people 392 00:18:08,104 --> 00:18:12,944 Speaker 3: talking because the Beckham family, so David, Victoria and their 393 00:18:13,024 --> 00:18:17,144 Speaker 3: three sons, so we've got Brooklyn, Romeo and Cruz are 394 00:18:17,224 --> 00:18:19,864 Speaker 3: kind of involved in this feud. I'm going to say 395 00:18:19,904 --> 00:18:21,824 Speaker 3: little half a seven is not super involved. 396 00:18:21,984 --> 00:18:25,224 Speaker 1: Believe she's thirteen now, so I mean she's probably not involved. 397 00:18:25,224 --> 00:18:27,304 Speaker 1: But just to give a little bit of context to 398 00:18:27,384 --> 00:18:32,304 Speaker 1: all of this, so the Beckhams have really historically been 399 00:18:32,504 --> 00:18:36,384 Speaker 1: this really close knit family unit. It has always been 400 00:18:36,544 --> 00:18:40,504 Speaker 1: about the Beckham family and how much Victoria and David 401 00:18:40,584 --> 00:18:41,464 Speaker 1: love their children. 402 00:18:41,944 --> 00:18:43,264 Speaker 2: There is no doubt in that. 403 00:18:43,824 --> 00:18:48,424 Speaker 1: However, the rumblings on all of the gossip sites is 404 00:18:48,424 --> 00:18:53,664 Speaker 1: that there has been something brewing between Brooklyn and Romeo 405 00:18:54,504 --> 00:18:55,504 Speaker 1: for quite some time. 406 00:18:55,704 --> 00:18:55,904 Speaker 2: Now. 407 00:18:55,944 --> 00:18:57,864 Speaker 1: I've done some digging, so I'm going to give you 408 00:18:57,904 --> 00:19:00,384 Speaker 1: the history lesson if you are not familiar with them, 409 00:19:01,024 --> 00:19:03,024 Speaker 1: and then we can kind of unpack this a little 410 00:19:03,024 --> 00:19:06,664 Speaker 1: bit moder now. Earlier this month, David Beckham had his 411 00:19:06,704 --> 00:19:10,224 Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday. Brooklyn and Nikola were not there. 412 00:19:10,384 --> 00:19:10,744 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 413 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:14,024 Speaker 1: They were going to go to the met didn't show up. 414 00:19:14,384 --> 00:19:19,304 Speaker 1: They also didn't go to the Victorian Beckham fashion show 415 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:21,064 Speaker 1: back in April in Paris. 416 00:19:21,584 --> 00:19:22,624 Speaker 2: They didn't go to her show. 417 00:19:22,824 --> 00:19:26,184 Speaker 3: And historically they have always, even when the rumors of 418 00:19:26,184 --> 00:19:28,704 Speaker 3: that few between Victoria and Nicola were at an all 419 00:19:28,744 --> 00:19:31,264 Speaker 3: all time high, they were always at her show. They 420 00:19:31,264 --> 00:19:34,464 Speaker 3: were always like wearing Victoria Beckham head to toe, taking 421 00:19:34,464 --> 00:19:36,824 Speaker 3: photos at the front, posting about it like. They were 422 00:19:36,864 --> 00:19:39,304 Speaker 3: always very making it know when they were there. 423 00:19:39,664 --> 00:19:42,984 Speaker 1: Now, the tabloids have basically been saying that this rift 424 00:19:43,024 --> 00:19:47,944 Speaker 1: between Brooklyn and Romeo goes back to Brooklyn and Romeo 425 00:19:48,344 --> 00:19:52,824 Speaker 1: and a woman called Mia Reagan, who Romeo was dating 426 00:19:53,064 --> 00:19:58,584 Speaker 1: at the wedding of Brooklyn and Nicola. Okay, now the 427 00:19:58,584 --> 00:20:02,944 Speaker 1: gossip is that Nicola did not like this girl and 428 00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:08,104 Speaker 1: was really cold and rude to her, and Romeo didn't 429 00:20:08,184 --> 00:20:09,744 Speaker 1: like the way that she was being treated. 430 00:20:10,384 --> 00:20:12,744 Speaker 2: And then obviously Brooklyn's going to stick up for his wife. 431 00:20:13,344 --> 00:20:16,504 Speaker 1: Maybe Nichola's being like a little bit caddy or jealous 432 00:20:16,584 --> 00:20:20,384 Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, but that is apparently where 433 00:20:20,424 --> 00:20:23,384 Speaker 1: it started. So we're kind of going back quite a 434 00:20:23,424 --> 00:20:26,864 Speaker 1: few years here where this has been bubbling up and 435 00:20:26,984 --> 00:20:31,744 Speaker 1: starting to become more serious. And now the fact that 436 00:20:32,504 --> 00:20:36,224 Speaker 1: they missed David's fiftieth birthday. This isn't like some this 437 00:20:36,264 --> 00:20:41,344 Speaker 1: is a milestone birthday. Brooklyn and Nicola have missed David's 438 00:20:41,344 --> 00:20:44,344 Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday, they didn't go to the Victoria Beckham show. 439 00:20:45,544 --> 00:20:50,104 Speaker 1: And now this post that he's done on Instagram. It's 440 00:20:50,224 --> 00:20:52,464 Speaker 1: kind of really starting to cement the fact that there 441 00:20:52,504 --> 00:20:56,184 Speaker 1: really is a rift. Romeo is no longer dating this 442 00:20:56,304 --> 00:20:58,984 Speaker 1: mere readinger who was at the wedding, but he's now 443 00:20:59,104 --> 00:21:04,904 Speaker 1: dating this other girl, Kim, who supposedly briefly dated Brooklyn. 444 00:21:05,344 --> 00:21:07,224 Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of crossover here. 445 00:21:07,584 --> 00:21:09,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is interesting. That's what I've always heard is 446 00:21:09,744 --> 00:21:12,144 Speaker 3: that and Kim had dated, even though I don't think 447 00:21:12,144 --> 00:21:13,384 Speaker 3: there was like a lot of pictures or anything at 448 00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:15,824 Speaker 3: the time, so we don't know how that relationship ended. 449 00:21:15,904 --> 00:21:18,504 Speaker 3: But now she and Romeo are dating, and that that's 450 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:20,744 Speaker 3: caused the feud between the brothers, which I think it's 451 00:21:20,824 --> 00:21:25,024 Speaker 3: interesting because people have always speculated that it's Victoria and 452 00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:28,344 Speaker 3: Nikola that have been the ones fighting, and like that 453 00:21:28,424 --> 00:21:30,464 Speaker 3: kind of stems from the wedding or how Victoria was 454 00:21:30,504 --> 00:21:32,704 Speaker 3: going to design her wedding dress and then she didn't, 455 00:21:33,104 --> 00:21:35,064 Speaker 3: and there was speculation and kind of all of these 456 00:21:35,064 --> 00:21:37,344 Speaker 3: different rumors at the time that it was because she 457 00:21:37,384 --> 00:21:39,704 Speaker 3: didn't want her to marry her son, and so she 458 00:21:39,704 --> 00:21:41,264 Speaker 3: said she didn't have time to make the dress, and 459 00:21:41,264 --> 00:21:43,184 Speaker 3: then a different designer made it in the exact amount 460 00:21:43,224 --> 00:21:45,824 Speaker 3: of time. There was also all these stories that came 461 00:21:45,864 --> 00:21:48,384 Speaker 3: out of the wedding that Nikola had like left the 462 00:21:48,464 --> 00:21:51,224 Speaker 3: reception in tears because of how the Beckham family were 463 00:21:51,264 --> 00:21:53,744 Speaker 3: trading her, which all seems very intense, but I don't know. 464 00:21:53,784 --> 00:21:55,384 Speaker 3: There was a lot of intensity around that wedding, with 465 00:21:55,424 --> 00:21:57,584 Speaker 3: like the leaked text messages from the wedding planners and 466 00:21:57,624 --> 00:22:00,024 Speaker 3: the lawsuits and all that sort of stuff, and then 467 00:22:00,184 --> 00:22:03,424 Speaker 3: after that. This is why I think this feud is real, 468 00:22:03,544 --> 00:22:06,104 Speaker 3: because the Beckham family is really good at jumping on 469 00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:08,904 Speaker 3: and just putting up a cute photo and squashing anything. 470 00:22:08,944 --> 00:22:12,944 Speaker 3: Like anytime there's been any speculation that David and Victoria 471 00:22:13,104 --> 00:22:15,744 Speaker 3: are fighting or have potentially split or anything like that, 472 00:22:16,024 --> 00:22:18,664 Speaker 3: they'll post a cutesee video and Victoria'll be like, I 473 00:22:18,664 --> 00:22:20,864 Speaker 3: love you kisses, or she'll post like a photo of 474 00:22:21,224 --> 00:22:23,704 Speaker 3: like a video of David dancing at home or something. 475 00:22:24,224 --> 00:22:26,264 Speaker 3: To the fact that this story has been bubbling away 476 00:22:26,744 --> 00:22:30,304 Speaker 3: for months now, and the fact that David Beckham posted 477 00:22:30,344 --> 00:22:34,584 Speaker 3: photos from his fiftieth birthday without Brooklyn and Nicola and 478 00:22:34,584 --> 00:22:37,024 Speaker 3: there was no real explanation why they weren't there, and 479 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:41,144 Speaker 3: then he posted photos with Cruise and Romeo saying, fishing 480 00:22:41,184 --> 00:22:43,264 Speaker 3: trip with my boys for my birthday. This is all 481 00:22:43,264 --> 00:22:45,144 Speaker 3: I wanted with the boys together, Like it was so 482 00:22:45,384 --> 00:22:49,424 Speaker 3: pointed that Brooklyn wasn't there. And the fact that Brooklyn 483 00:22:49,464 --> 00:22:52,224 Speaker 3: Nickola also haven't jumped in when they're so big on 484 00:22:52,264 --> 00:22:55,464 Speaker 3: Instagram and posting these big things, just like those these 485 00:22:55,464 --> 00:22:57,904 Speaker 3: big emotional outbursts about their family. 486 00:22:58,144 --> 00:23:01,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we all know that every family has their fights. 487 00:23:01,664 --> 00:23:04,384 Speaker 1: Like I don't have sisters, but I've had fights with 488 00:23:04,424 --> 00:23:06,864 Speaker 1: my brothers. I've had cousins who I haven't spoken to 489 00:23:06,984 --> 00:23:10,344 Speaker 1: for months who are like my sisters. I've had answers, 490 00:23:10,464 --> 00:23:12,464 Speaker 1: uncles who don't talk to each other. There's always that, 491 00:23:12,664 --> 00:23:15,784 Speaker 1: Like every family has that. I think it just gets 492 00:23:15,944 --> 00:23:21,104 Speaker 1: so overblown so much when you're in a family like 493 00:23:21,504 --> 00:23:24,864 Speaker 1: the Beckhams. But to put it out on Instagram, like 494 00:23:24,864 --> 00:23:27,464 Speaker 1: there's a couple of the comments underneath was saying that 495 00:23:27,464 --> 00:23:29,744 Speaker 1: they're like you, guys, you're putting this out there, You're 496 00:23:29,824 --> 00:23:35,704 Speaker 1: now basically confirming it. Then little Cruise blessis. 497 00:23:35,224 --> 00:23:38,104 Speaker 3: Cotton Sock, Little Cruise, he's like dacent woman again, years 498 00:23:38,104 --> 00:23:38,704 Speaker 3: older than him. 499 00:23:39,104 --> 00:23:40,704 Speaker 2: He again, at the. 500 00:23:40,624 --> 00:23:43,344 Speaker 1: Time of this recording, it was like fifteen sixteen hours ago, 501 00:23:43,464 --> 00:23:47,344 Speaker 1: So this is basically right after Brooklyn posted his little 502 00:23:47,464 --> 00:23:51,624 Speaker 1: motorcycle thing. Only a couple of hours later, Cruse Beckham 503 00:23:51,744 --> 00:23:56,064 Speaker 1: posts on his stories on Instagram a photo of his 504 00:23:56,104 --> 00:24:01,064 Speaker 1: whole family, including Brooklyn, and it says, I love my family. 505 00:24:01,584 --> 00:24:04,104 Speaker 1: I love you guys more than anything. Mum and Dad, 506 00:24:04,224 --> 00:24:06,624 Speaker 1: you gave us life and cared for us no matter what. 507 00:24:07,184 --> 00:24:09,264 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how blessed we all are to 508 00:24:09,384 --> 00:24:11,344 Speaker 1: have you in our life x. 509 00:24:11,944 --> 00:24:14,864 Speaker 3: I mean that is really telling, right, But Nichola is 510 00:24:14,904 --> 00:24:18,624 Speaker 3: not in the photo, right, it's the siblings. I guess 511 00:24:18,704 --> 00:24:22,664 Speaker 3: it's the siblings and Victoria and David. 512 00:24:22,744 --> 00:24:27,944 Speaker 1: So the family family, yeah, you know, without in the photo. 513 00:24:28,184 --> 00:24:30,624 Speaker 3: Yeah, neither of any of the other girlfriends. And again 514 00:24:30,664 --> 00:24:33,824 Speaker 3: that's very telling because Cruise and Romeo always have their 515 00:24:33,824 --> 00:24:36,144 Speaker 3: girlfriends in all the family photo. It's like with a 516 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:38,944 Speaker 3: Beckham's like once you're dating a Beckham, you're just completely 517 00:24:38,984 --> 00:24:42,504 Speaker 3: in the family, at least from like a very public standpoint. 518 00:24:42,744 --> 00:24:45,424 Speaker 3: So it's very telling that he's picked just a photo 519 00:24:45,464 --> 00:24:48,224 Speaker 3: with David and Victoria and the kids. Yeah, and you've 520 00:24:48,224 --> 00:24:50,984 Speaker 3: got Brooklyn saying to Nikola, I choose you, and then 521 00:24:51,064 --> 00:24:53,864 Speaker 3: Cruse saying thank you to our parents you gave us life. 522 00:24:54,304 --> 00:24:56,424 Speaker 3: It's like he's saying to his brother, like get over it. 523 00:24:56,504 --> 00:24:59,184 Speaker 1: Like it's like you need to instead of come back 524 00:24:59,224 --> 00:25:01,344 Speaker 1: to come back to the family. Yeah. 525 00:25:01,504 --> 00:25:04,224 Speaker 3: And again like this is such an online family. That's 526 00:25:04,264 --> 00:25:06,424 Speaker 3: the thing is like there's other families where you think, oh, 527 00:25:06,464 --> 00:25:08,904 Speaker 3: they just don't comment on anything because they only post 528 00:25:08,944 --> 00:25:11,104 Speaker 3: about like new launches and stuff. But we have such 529 00:25:11,104 --> 00:25:13,104 Speaker 3: an intimate look in terms of like as much as 530 00:25:13,104 --> 00:25:15,184 Speaker 3: that they want us to see this very like cultivated 531 00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:17,544 Speaker 3: family life. And that's why I think if they wanted 532 00:25:17,544 --> 00:25:19,744 Speaker 3: to shut this down, it'd be so easy to shut it, 533 00:25:19,744 --> 00:25:21,584 Speaker 3: even if they're fighting behind the scenes and they just 534 00:25:21,664 --> 00:25:24,104 Speaker 3: wanted privacy, It'd be so easy for them just to 535 00:25:24,144 --> 00:25:27,144 Speaker 3: post a photo of them together and be like, even 536 00:25:27,144 --> 00:25:29,184 Speaker 3: if Victoria was just like loving life with my beautiful 537 00:25:29,224 --> 00:25:30,784 Speaker 3: kids and it was all the kids and Nicola and 538 00:25:30,824 --> 00:25:32,984 Speaker 3: the photo and then that would kind of dispel things 539 00:25:32,984 --> 00:25:35,304 Speaker 3: to an extent. But the fact that it seems so 540 00:25:35,424 --> 00:25:37,984 Speaker 3: far gone behind the scenes they can't even bring themselves 541 00:25:38,024 --> 00:25:39,264 Speaker 3: to do that isn't very telling. 542 00:25:39,304 --> 00:25:42,264 Speaker 1: Look, you know, David did post a Mother's Day, you know, 543 00:25:42,384 --> 00:25:45,944 Speaker 1: tribute and had all four of the kids in it. 544 00:25:45,584 --> 00:25:47,984 Speaker 3: So well, that would have been a lot to completely. 545 00:25:47,624 --> 00:25:49,904 Speaker 2: I know, but like nothing is irreparable. 546 00:25:50,544 --> 00:25:53,504 Speaker 3: But have you said the royal family's involved? Like this 547 00:25:53,544 --> 00:25:57,024 Speaker 3: is what I mean, Like the British Royal family is involved, 548 00:25:57,064 --> 00:26:00,704 Speaker 3: because obviously David Beckham's always been like very very close 549 00:26:00,784 --> 00:26:04,184 Speaker 3: to the royal family, particularly like William and Harry and 550 00:26:04,184 --> 00:26:08,304 Speaker 3: then allegedly Megan and Harry. They thought that David and 551 00:26:08,424 --> 00:26:11,144 Speaker 3: Victoria had like sold in for me about them all, 552 00:26:11,144 --> 00:26:13,504 Speaker 3: like a was sharing GOSSI about them, so their relationship 553 00:26:13,544 --> 00:26:17,744 Speaker 3: was quite fraction And then again, allegedly Brooklyn and Nikola 554 00:26:18,024 --> 00:26:20,744 Speaker 3: had dinner recently with Harry and Meghan, so people were 555 00:26:20,784 --> 00:26:22,664 Speaker 3: thinking it was like it was like a support group 556 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:26,984 Speaker 3: for ostracized people of famous families. And then again, it's 557 00:26:26,984 --> 00:26:28,704 Speaker 3: hard to think that anything is that like an accident 558 00:26:28,704 --> 00:26:30,904 Speaker 3: when these people live their whole lives to have a 559 00:26:30,984 --> 00:26:33,864 Speaker 3: very certain, like public way of portraying themselves. Then Kate 560 00:26:33,944 --> 00:26:39,184 Speaker 3: Middleton Princess Catherine stepped out in a Victoria Beckham suit like. 561 00:26:40,464 --> 00:26:43,544 Speaker 1: I just obviously we're not going to know, but it 562 00:26:43,704 --> 00:26:47,704 Speaker 1: really did. It was a very pointed I'm taking my 563 00:26:47,704 --> 00:26:53,424 Speaker 1: wife's side on theirs, and she kind of is yoking herself, 564 00:26:54,064 --> 00:26:58,704 Speaker 1: you know, like she's breaking up this like power group. 565 00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:01,864 Speaker 1: And I feel like that might be an angle where 566 00:27:01,864 --> 00:27:04,584 Speaker 1: people might come from, is that nicolais is. 567 00:27:06,344 --> 00:27:09,824 Speaker 3: I do like that she's not completely I do like 568 00:27:09,824 --> 00:27:11,704 Speaker 3: she's not complately getting blamed this because it would be 569 00:27:11,704 --> 00:27:13,624 Speaker 3: so easy to jump in and be like that witch 570 00:27:13,704 --> 00:27:15,664 Speaker 3: took that boy away from his not blaming her, But 571 00:27:15,824 --> 00:27:17,344 Speaker 3: it does no, No, you're not. But I feel like 572 00:27:17,384 --> 00:27:19,344 Speaker 3: it's even good that I haven't seen too much of 573 00:27:19,344 --> 00:27:21,344 Speaker 3: the public do that. It's like people are aware that 574 00:27:21,384 --> 00:27:24,144 Speaker 3: it's a boy fight. It's you brothers who are fighting, 575 00:27:24,264 --> 00:27:28,144 Speaker 3: and their parents have taken sides allegedly, and it's like 576 00:27:28,184 --> 00:27:31,384 Speaker 3: it's very much between these two little rich Nepo babies, 577 00:27:31,464 --> 00:27:33,344 Speaker 3: Like that's what I find. They're having a fight over 578 00:27:33,384 --> 00:27:36,384 Speaker 3: a girl, which again classic behavior but doesn't always get 579 00:27:36,384 --> 00:27:37,904 Speaker 3: called out. But I think it just this will come 580 00:27:37,944 --> 00:27:40,184 Speaker 3: to a head eventually, like something someone's going to have 581 00:27:40,224 --> 00:27:41,824 Speaker 3: to give, someone to have to get say something, someone's 582 00:27:41,824 --> 00:27:44,384 Speaker 3: gonna have to post something like something will come out, 583 00:27:44,424 --> 00:27:46,704 Speaker 3: but until then we'll just have to keep watching their 584 00:27:46,744 --> 00:27:49,824 Speaker 3: little telling Instagram posts. Well, thank you so much for 585 00:27:49,864 --> 00:27:52,504 Speaker 3: listening to The Spill today, and don't forget to follow 586 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,864 Speaker 3: The Spill on TikTok. We have our own account. 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