1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,425 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hello you beis It's 4 00:00:20,505 --> 00:00:23,745 Speaker 2: Lee here, And I wanted to drop this special episode 5 00:00:23,745 --> 00:00:26,145 Speaker 2: of Nothing to Wear into the U Biddy feed because 6 00:00:26,505 --> 00:00:29,625 Speaker 2: if you like makeup and skincare, you might like fashion 7 00:00:29,745 --> 00:00:32,225 Speaker 2: as well. And when I say fashion, I don't mean 8 00:00:32,345 --> 00:00:35,865 Speaker 2: blindly following trends or spending a fortune. It's just some 9 00:00:35,945 --> 00:00:38,665 Speaker 2: really great style advice. And I reckon you're gonna like 10 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:43,545 Speaker 2: this one. Whoever said orange is a new pink with 11 00:00:43,705 --> 00:00:47,145 Speaker 2: seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 12 00:00:47,385 --> 00:00:49,705 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 13 00:00:49,785 --> 00:00:50,505 Speaker 3: for fashion. 14 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:55,145 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 15 00:00:55,225 --> 00:00:58,945 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 16 00:00:59,105 --> 00:01:02,185 Speaker 2: Campbell and every week I talk to an expert who 17 00:01:02,225 --> 00:01:04,585 Speaker 2: helps us get more out of the clothes we already 18 00:01:04,585 --> 00:01:08,145 Speaker 2: own and tells us exactly what is and isn't worth 19 00:01:08,185 --> 00:01:11,465 Speaker 2: adding to your wardrobe. And if you've ever scrolled Deepop 20 00:01:11,505 --> 00:01:15,065 Speaker 2: and thought where do I even start, this episode is 21 00:01:15,185 --> 00:01:18,425 Speaker 2: for you. Or maybe you don't even know what deepop is, 22 00:01:18,665 --> 00:01:21,865 Speaker 2: but you keep hearing everyone talk about it. So we've 23 00:01:21,905 --> 00:01:26,105 Speaker 2: got you covered today. I'm joined by one of Australia's 24 00:01:26,145 --> 00:01:30,145 Speaker 2: top deepop sellers, the queen of curated vintage and an 25 00:01:30,225 --> 00:01:34,785 Speaker 2: absolute expert in turning secondhand gems into serious style. Her 26 00:01:34,865 --> 00:01:38,545 Speaker 2: name is Kara Otter or Karamelian As she's non on 27 00:01:38,585 --> 00:01:41,825 Speaker 2: line and she doesn't just sell on deepop that's her job. 28 00:01:41,945 --> 00:01:44,025 Speaker 2: She's made a career out of it. She runs a 29 00:01:44,065 --> 00:01:47,505 Speaker 2: thriving vintage shop in Sydney called So Familiar, where she 30 00:01:47,585 --> 00:01:50,705 Speaker 2: sources some of the most incredible preloved pieces that you 31 00:01:50,825 --> 00:01:53,625 Speaker 2: might find on her deepop. So today we'll get to 32 00:01:53,705 --> 00:01:56,625 Speaker 2: dive deep into the world of deepop. How to use it, 33 00:01:56,705 --> 00:01:59,265 Speaker 2: what it is, how to buy, how to sell, and 34 00:01:59,545 --> 00:02:03,465 Speaker 2: all of your questions answered. Kara, firstly, let's start with 35 00:02:03,505 --> 00:02:06,225 Speaker 2: some general questions before we get into all things deepop. 36 00:02:06,345 --> 00:02:09,065 Speaker 2: Can you describe your style in three words? 37 00:02:09,865 --> 00:02:13,345 Speaker 3: Personal style. This is kind of tricky because I don't 38 00:02:13,345 --> 00:02:17,105 Speaker 3: think I'm super extra, but I do love colorful things, 39 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:19,905 Speaker 3: and obviously I wear a lot of vintage. Most of 40 00:02:19,945 --> 00:02:23,185 Speaker 3: my clothes of pre love or things that small designers 41 00:02:23,225 --> 00:02:26,785 Speaker 3: have made. Love a little splash of leopard print, bit 42 00:02:26,825 --> 00:02:32,865 Speaker 3: of sporty usually comfy shoes, so whatever I'm feeling really 43 00:02:32,905 --> 00:02:36,385 Speaker 3: on the day. But yeah, majority vintage, and i'd definitely 44 00:02:36,385 --> 00:02:40,185 Speaker 3: say quite colorful compared to majority of people about are 45 00:02:40,225 --> 00:02:41,585 Speaker 3: loving Beiji in Cork. 46 00:02:42,305 --> 00:02:44,585 Speaker 2: Which is pretty much me though I'm trying to experiment. 47 00:02:45,385 --> 00:02:48,425 Speaker 2: And they say that you wear ten percent of your 48 00:02:48,425 --> 00:02:50,585 Speaker 2: wardrobe ninety percent of the time, so the stuff you 49 00:02:50,665 --> 00:02:53,225 Speaker 2: reach for over and over and over. I wonder if 50 00:02:53,225 --> 00:02:55,825 Speaker 2: that's true for you, because your wardrobe's so unique, But 51 00:02:55,905 --> 00:02:58,025 Speaker 2: what's your most reached for items. 52 00:02:58,545 --> 00:03:02,225 Speaker 3: My wardrobe is really high rotation, so I have a 53 00:03:02,465 --> 00:03:05,385 Speaker 3: tiny wardrobe. I live in a small apartment, but we 54 00:03:05,505 --> 00:03:08,105 Speaker 3: have a shop and I've got a lot of vintage 55 00:03:08,105 --> 00:03:11,185 Speaker 3: stock at my grandma's house. So I tend to change 56 00:03:11,225 --> 00:03:14,385 Speaker 3: what's in my wardrobe a lot. If I haven't reached 57 00:03:14,425 --> 00:03:17,305 Speaker 3: for it in six months, it's gone, yes, and I 58 00:03:17,385 --> 00:03:20,345 Speaker 3: replace it with something exciting. And I buy so much 59 00:03:20,425 --> 00:03:23,705 Speaker 3: every week, which sounds like my worst nightmare because I 60 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:27,065 Speaker 3: hate over consumption and stuff like that. But when it's vintage, 61 00:03:27,065 --> 00:03:28,225 Speaker 3: you don't have the guilt. 62 00:03:28,065 --> 00:03:29,745 Speaker 2: No, and also it's your job, so then you can 63 00:03:29,785 --> 00:03:32,225 Speaker 2: move it on and it's just a flowing Yeah. 64 00:03:32,465 --> 00:03:34,505 Speaker 3: People are always picking stuff up in the shop and saying, 65 00:03:34,545 --> 00:03:36,825 Speaker 3: oh that was from my wardrobe. It didn't fit me right, 66 00:03:36,865 --> 00:03:39,665 Speaker 3: but it's amazing. So yeah, I try and keep it 67 00:03:39,905 --> 00:03:41,985 Speaker 3: very circular, this wardrobe. 68 00:03:41,905 --> 00:03:43,225 Speaker 1: Very fluid and flowing. 69 00:03:43,305 --> 00:03:47,345 Speaker 2: That's the goal. We're talking all things deepop. So let's 70 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:48,025 Speaker 2: set the scene. 71 00:03:48,065 --> 00:03:48,905 Speaker 1: For people that have. 72 00:03:48,945 --> 00:03:52,665 Speaker 2: Never heard or used deepop before. They might feel intimidated 73 00:03:52,705 --> 00:03:54,385 Speaker 2: by it. They might not even know what it is. 74 00:03:54,465 --> 00:03:57,625 Speaker 2: So what is deepop? How does it work? Tell us 75 00:03:57,625 --> 00:03:59,225 Speaker 2: all things? So? 76 00:03:59,705 --> 00:04:03,865 Speaker 3: Deepop is basically an app that's a super simple, like 77 00:04:04,145 --> 00:04:06,825 Speaker 3: eBay when it first started, kind of thing where you 78 00:04:06,825 --> 00:04:09,505 Speaker 3: can list your old pieces that you don't wear anymore. 79 00:04:09,825 --> 00:04:15,305 Speaker 3: But it's very specifically in Australia clothing accessories, shoes and 80 00:04:15,345 --> 00:04:17,385 Speaker 3: stuff like that, and it's kind of like an Instagram 81 00:04:17,385 --> 00:04:20,625 Speaker 3: that you can just scroll through and find pieces that 82 00:04:20,665 --> 00:04:23,185 Speaker 3: you love that someone else has bought that didn't fit 83 00:04:23,345 --> 00:04:25,665 Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's kind of just a simplified eBay. 84 00:04:25,985 --> 00:04:27,345 Speaker 1: That is a really good way to put it. 85 00:04:27,665 --> 00:04:29,705 Speaker 2: And how does it differ. I mean you've mentioned Debay there, 86 00:04:29,745 --> 00:04:31,785 Speaker 2: but you know your gum trees, your Etsy's or my 87 00:04:31,985 --> 00:04:34,185 Speaker 2: favorite thing to scroll before bed because it's just so 88 00:04:34,985 --> 00:04:38,465 Speaker 2: erratic and random Facebook marketplace. How does it differ or 89 00:04:38,465 --> 00:04:39,545 Speaker 2: why do you prefer it? 90 00:04:40,185 --> 00:04:42,465 Speaker 3: There's two kind of sides of deep Hop. So I'm 91 00:04:42,505 --> 00:04:46,225 Speaker 3: a reseller, so I'm like specifically doing photo shoots for 92 00:04:46,265 --> 00:04:49,385 Speaker 3: deepop and buying for deepop and curating product that I 93 00:04:49,465 --> 00:04:52,305 Speaker 3: think my customers are going to like, Whereas there's a 94 00:04:52,305 --> 00:04:55,305 Speaker 3: lot of people on there that are just selling their 95 00:04:55,305 --> 00:04:57,465 Speaker 3: old wardrobes, which is also great. So it's like a 96 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:00,945 Speaker 3: bit of a garage sale kind of vibe, but it's 97 00:05:00,985 --> 00:05:04,145 Speaker 3: a lot easier to use because there are those kind 98 00:05:04,145 --> 00:05:06,385 Speaker 3: of curated things, so it's inspiring and it kind of 99 00:05:06,425 --> 00:05:09,025 Speaker 3: shows you things that you may like, and it's a 100 00:05:09,145 --> 00:05:13,505 Speaker 3: little bit more directed at fashion Facebook marketplace, you're going 101 00:05:13,585 --> 00:05:18,665 Speaker 3: to find old Grandma selling Ancho on deep hop. 102 00:05:18,665 --> 00:05:21,105 Speaker 2: If that makes it my Facebook marketplace feed, I mean, 103 00:05:21,145 --> 00:05:22,985 Speaker 2: it knows me because I've clicked on weird things. But 104 00:05:23,105 --> 00:05:25,025 Speaker 2: sometimes I've looked at furniture and then I don't want 105 00:05:25,025 --> 00:05:25,705 Speaker 2: furniture anymore. 106 00:05:25,705 --> 00:05:27,825 Speaker 1: But it's all furniture. It's just almost too broad. But 107 00:05:27,865 --> 00:05:28,185 Speaker 1: you're right. 108 00:05:28,225 --> 00:05:30,505 Speaker 2: When I've gone on to deep hop, the fashion knows me, 109 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:33,105 Speaker 2: so it's clever and you're one of the top deep 110 00:05:33,145 --> 00:05:36,785 Speaker 2: Hop sellers in Australia. So before we get into your tips, 111 00:05:36,905 --> 00:05:40,745 Speaker 2: let's talk about your journey to being here and selling. 112 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:43,025 Speaker 2: How how did you get here and what do you sell? 113 00:05:43,585 --> 00:05:46,145 Speaker 3: So it's vintage dead stock, which is a lot of 114 00:05:46,145 --> 00:05:49,185 Speaker 3: people don't understand, so kind of quickly explain it. It's 115 00:05:49,225 --> 00:05:52,985 Speaker 3: actually old stock that's never been worn, so it's still 116 00:05:53,065 --> 00:05:56,225 Speaker 3: brand new. Oh wow, it has the original tags and 117 00:05:56,265 --> 00:05:59,705 Speaker 3: we kind of find like old companies or old warehouses 118 00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:02,625 Speaker 3: that have got this stock that hasn't been touched. So 119 00:06:02,825 --> 00:06:06,505 Speaker 3: we've really been lucky and specialized in that we sell 120 00:06:06,665 --> 00:06:11,705 Speaker 3: sunglasses and with clothing, anything from like accessories like scarves 121 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:16,585 Speaker 3: to jackets, dresses, formal dresses and everything in between. 122 00:06:16,665 --> 00:06:17,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's curated. 123 00:06:17,505 --> 00:06:19,105 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the version of going to the 124 00:06:19,105 --> 00:06:20,825 Speaker 2: shopping center and go to your favorite shop because you 125 00:06:20,865 --> 00:06:23,425 Speaker 2: know that's your style and your aesthetic and your. 126 00:06:23,305 --> 00:06:24,625 Speaker 1: Whole vibe exactly. 127 00:06:25,305 --> 00:06:28,665 Speaker 2: Talk to me about listing stuff, So how important are photos, 128 00:06:28,705 --> 00:06:31,905 Speaker 2: descriptions and pricing? Do you have any specific tips that 129 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:35,745 Speaker 2: makes lists stand out that actually sells. If our listeners 130 00:06:35,745 --> 00:06:38,665 Speaker 2: were thinking of perhaps listings and things that they don't longer. 131 00:06:38,465 --> 00:06:41,185 Speaker 3: Wear, I'd say just make sure that you've got good 132 00:06:41,265 --> 00:06:44,065 Speaker 3: lighting so you can see the detail. You know, you've written, 133 00:06:44,105 --> 00:06:48,425 Speaker 3: the brand, the size, all of that, the condition, but 134 00:06:48,545 --> 00:06:50,385 Speaker 3: the photo is important. You kind of just want it 135 00:06:50,425 --> 00:06:53,425 Speaker 3: to be a simple, clear background with good lighting. It 136 00:06:53,465 --> 00:06:54,345 Speaker 3: can be on a hangar. 137 00:06:54,825 --> 00:06:56,865 Speaker 2: Do you think people prefer it on a body or 138 00:06:56,905 --> 00:06:58,425 Speaker 2: how do you shoot yours? And what do you think 139 00:06:58,465 --> 00:07:00,545 Speaker 2: sells best when it's an item of clothing. 140 00:07:01,265 --> 00:07:04,505 Speaker 3: For us, we definitely do body because I think it's 141 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:07,145 Speaker 3: really important as a business if you want to grow, 142 00:07:07,265 --> 00:07:09,345 Speaker 3: because you're just going to get asked to see it 143 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:12,345 Speaker 3: on a body. But if you're selling something that's like branded, 144 00:07:12,545 --> 00:07:15,945 Speaker 3: or you're selling something that's very current and in store 145 00:07:16,105 --> 00:07:19,265 Speaker 3: that you've purchased, you could definitely just do it on 146 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:22,105 Speaker 3: a hangar because I think people know what that brand 147 00:07:22,185 --> 00:07:25,305 Speaker 3: sells or what the fits like. If it's a popular item, 148 00:07:25,425 --> 00:07:29,185 Speaker 3: I'd say it's not essential, no way, you could just 149 00:07:29,305 --> 00:07:29,905 Speaker 3: post it. 150 00:07:30,345 --> 00:07:32,305 Speaker 2: And when you say photo, is there a gallery of 151 00:07:32,345 --> 00:07:34,545 Speaker 2: images on deepop or is it just like one photo? 152 00:07:34,945 --> 00:07:36,905 Speaker 3: I guess the best way to think of deepop is 153 00:07:36,985 --> 00:07:39,105 Speaker 3: like an Instagram butt for selling your clothes. 154 00:07:39,185 --> 00:07:41,425 Speaker 2: Okay, so the best ones at the front you really 155 00:07:41,505 --> 00:07:42,985 Speaker 2: want to be eye catching. 156 00:07:43,385 --> 00:07:47,265 Speaker 3: Each item is a post, so we try and post 157 00:07:47,345 --> 00:07:50,665 Speaker 3: once a day, one new item every day. But if 158 00:07:50,705 --> 00:07:54,025 Speaker 3: you have cleared out your wardrobe and you have thirty 159 00:07:54,065 --> 00:07:56,665 Speaker 3: things that you want to sell, definitely just upload them 160 00:07:56,665 --> 00:07:59,545 Speaker 3: more and be as descriptive as possible. Because if people 161 00:07:59,585 --> 00:08:03,745 Speaker 3: are looking for let's say, a specific back and bridge dress, 162 00:08:04,345 --> 00:08:06,585 Speaker 3: they've tried it on in store, they want to find 163 00:08:06,625 --> 00:08:09,265 Speaker 3: it on deepop search it up. You never know you 164 00:08:09,425 --> 00:08:12,065 Speaker 3: might at it in your size for half the price. 165 00:08:12,545 --> 00:08:14,585 Speaker 2: So if you know the style name, include as much 166 00:08:14,625 --> 00:08:15,345 Speaker 2: as possible. 167 00:08:15,825 --> 00:08:19,105 Speaker 3: Definitely take the description from the brand's website. 168 00:08:19,225 --> 00:08:23,305 Speaker 2: Yes, pricing, how do we know what to price things at? 169 00:08:23,385 --> 00:08:25,065 Speaker 2: I mean it's a bit different for you because things 170 00:08:25,065 --> 00:08:27,905 Speaker 2: are quite unique. But I've seen similar items on there 171 00:08:27,945 --> 00:08:29,945 Speaker 2: with the same item and someone is selling it for 172 00:08:29,985 --> 00:08:33,385 Speaker 2: an absolute bargain and then in my opinion, expecting way 173 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:35,265 Speaker 2: too much. So how can people gauge what kind of 174 00:08:35,345 --> 00:08:36,505 Speaker 2: pricing is reasonable? 175 00:08:36,705 --> 00:08:39,105 Speaker 3: I would say depends how quickly you want to sell it, 176 00:08:39,825 --> 00:08:41,545 Speaker 3: if you don't mind holding on to it for the 177 00:08:41,585 --> 00:08:44,745 Speaker 3: next six months. I've had items on here for two years, 178 00:08:44,745 --> 00:08:46,625 Speaker 3: but I don't mind because I store it all at 179 00:08:46,665 --> 00:08:49,425 Speaker 3: my grandma's house. Lucky for me, and it doesn't matter 180 00:08:49,425 --> 00:08:51,305 Speaker 3: if it sits there for a while. So it's like, 181 00:08:51,385 --> 00:08:53,905 Speaker 3: I'm not kind of trying to chase that quick sale, 182 00:08:54,185 --> 00:08:56,745 Speaker 3: whereas you want to quick sale, make it cheap and 183 00:08:56,785 --> 00:09:00,345 Speaker 3: be happy that you got something for it donating it, 184 00:09:00,385 --> 00:09:03,945 Speaker 3: I guess. And also depends on the condition. If it's 185 00:09:03,985 --> 00:09:07,345 Speaker 3: in pretty crappy condition, you'd be happy to get not 186 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:10,505 Speaker 3: much for it. If you've taken really good care of it, 187 00:09:10,785 --> 00:09:13,585 Speaker 3: or if it's a really high demand item that's like 188 00:09:13,705 --> 00:09:16,865 Speaker 3: sold out on the Brown's website, then you can obviously 189 00:09:16,905 --> 00:09:18,505 Speaker 3: ask more for it, but just have a look. I 190 00:09:18,505 --> 00:09:21,785 Speaker 3: guess what the marketplace is like and search it up 191 00:09:21,905 --> 00:09:22,825 Speaker 3: for you list it. 192 00:09:22,745 --> 00:09:24,745 Speaker 1: Okay, So do as much of your own research as 193 00:09:24,745 --> 00:09:25,105 Speaker 1: you can. 194 00:09:25,305 --> 00:09:28,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say you're selling that beck and Bridge bridesmaid 195 00:09:28,185 --> 00:09:30,505 Speaker 3: dress that you're never going to wear again. See what 196 00:09:30,745 --> 00:09:33,345 Speaker 3: those kind of dresses are going for, okay, and then 197 00:09:33,465 --> 00:09:35,505 Speaker 3: if you want to sell yours faster, make it ten 198 00:09:35,545 --> 00:09:37,745 Speaker 3: dollars cheaper than everyone else's. 199 00:09:37,145 --> 00:09:39,945 Speaker 2: Smart and do people bargain on there because you can 200 00:09:39,985 --> 00:09:42,705 Speaker 2: send messages, right, can you send offers? How does that work? 201 00:09:42,745 --> 00:09:44,745 Speaker 2: Say I've seen this beckon Bridge dress and it's one 202 00:09:44,785 --> 00:09:47,105 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, but I really don't want to spend eighty. 203 00:09:47,185 --> 00:09:49,225 Speaker 2: Can I make an offer or send a message to 204 00:09:49,305 --> 00:09:51,145 Speaker 2: negotiate or is that not really done? 205 00:09:51,465 --> 00:09:53,905 Speaker 3: You can definitely offer deep hop kind of gives you 206 00:09:53,945 --> 00:09:57,065 Speaker 3: like recommended offers, like okay, you want to ask for 207 00:09:57,145 --> 00:09:58,625 Speaker 3: ten percent off? Do you want to ask for fifteen 208 00:09:58,625 --> 00:10:01,745 Speaker 3: percent off? And then you can kind of gauge how 209 00:10:01,945 --> 00:10:04,185 Speaker 3: badly you want it because it has happened to me 210 00:10:04,225 --> 00:10:06,505 Speaker 3: that I've offered, and then someone else has snapped it up, 211 00:10:06,545 --> 00:10:09,705 Speaker 3: So sure, I guess just depends how bad you want it. 212 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:11,105 Speaker 1: It's kind of like an auction in a way. 213 00:10:11,825 --> 00:10:15,265 Speaker 2: What about specific ways to list, Like is there keywords? 214 00:10:15,265 --> 00:10:17,505 Speaker 1: Does it use sort of seo at algorithm? 215 00:10:18,025 --> 00:10:21,025 Speaker 3: It does feel like it is a bit AI in 216 00:10:21,065 --> 00:10:22,745 Speaker 3: the sense that like, if you're looking up a pair 217 00:10:22,785 --> 00:10:27,225 Speaker 3: of sunglasses, it will show you similar sunglasses. Also, I 218 00:10:27,265 --> 00:10:30,665 Speaker 3: think if you're looking for something, this is just vintage 219 00:10:30,705 --> 00:10:33,985 Speaker 3: in general instead of just buying like that preloved back 220 00:10:33,985 --> 00:10:35,385 Speaker 3: and bridge just for example. I don't know why I 221 00:10:35,465 --> 00:10:35,665 Speaker 3: keep it. 222 00:10:35,705 --> 00:10:37,305 Speaker 2: That's a good example to keep running with. 223 00:10:37,625 --> 00:10:40,425 Speaker 3: I feel like people are always like wearing that kind 224 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:42,145 Speaker 3: of thing once and trying to get rid of it. 225 00:10:42,305 --> 00:10:45,625 Speaker 3: So if you're looking for something more special, I guess 226 00:10:45,705 --> 00:10:49,905 Speaker 3: so for me, I find vintage shoes incredibly difficult to find, 227 00:10:50,265 --> 00:10:53,705 Speaker 3: and I find shoes in general really hard to buy 228 00:10:53,785 --> 00:10:56,745 Speaker 3: because I want something cool and good quality and I 229 00:10:56,825 --> 00:10:59,665 Speaker 3: just don't really feel like it's out there. So whenever 230 00:10:59,745 --> 00:11:02,065 Speaker 3: I go on deep Op and look for my size 231 00:11:02,065 --> 00:11:04,785 Speaker 3: of shoe, it's really rare that I find something. But 232 00:11:04,825 --> 00:11:08,185 Speaker 3: if I go on for the next couple days every 233 00:11:08,225 --> 00:11:10,785 Speaker 3: now and then, it'll kind of know that I'm looking 234 00:11:10,825 --> 00:11:13,265 Speaker 3: for cool shoes and it will show me new cool 235 00:11:13,305 --> 00:11:14,105 Speaker 3: shoes that are listed. 236 00:11:14,345 --> 00:11:16,945 Speaker 2: So the algorithm kind of learns you and follows you 237 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:19,385 Speaker 2: in terms of, like you know, they're cookies or whatever 238 00:11:19,385 --> 00:11:22,025 Speaker 2: those things are, and you'll be served similar things to 239 00:11:22,065 --> 00:11:23,185 Speaker 2: search as you've looked for. 240 00:11:23,745 --> 00:11:27,185 Speaker 3: Exactly with like vintage shopping as well. If you want 241 00:11:27,185 --> 00:11:31,025 Speaker 3: something special, you can't be super specific, like I can't 242 00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:34,105 Speaker 3: say I have a wedding, I need green shoes in 243 00:11:34,145 --> 00:11:36,665 Speaker 3: a thirty eight with an open toe and a platform. Yes, 244 00:11:37,305 --> 00:11:40,705 Speaker 3: like I just want to see all the vintage shoes 245 00:11:40,945 --> 00:11:44,465 Speaker 3: that are available in Australia in a size thirty eight yep, 246 00:11:44,865 --> 00:11:45,665 Speaker 3: and then work with that. 247 00:11:45,665 --> 00:11:47,505 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, yep, No, it makes sense. It's not like 248 00:11:47,585 --> 00:11:49,785 Speaker 2: going online to the iconic. You can't really filter by 249 00:11:49,785 --> 00:11:51,465 Speaker 2: size and color and then hope that there's a lot 250 00:11:51,505 --> 00:11:55,225 Speaker 2: of stuff exactly. Is it important to follow people? Obviously, 251 00:11:55,225 --> 00:11:56,945 Speaker 2: you know I want to follow your shop, or my 252 00:11:56,985 --> 00:11:59,385 Speaker 2: friend Mary's selling all her stuff, I'll follow her. But 253 00:11:59,425 --> 00:12:01,785 Speaker 2: if I just jump on and I don't follow any accounts, 254 00:12:01,825 --> 00:12:05,385 Speaker 2: can I just search Country Road Bag, Beckonbridge Dress and 255 00:12:05,465 --> 00:12:07,265 Speaker 2: I'll just see a whole bunch of stuff. 256 00:12:06,945 --> 00:12:11,705 Speaker 3: Exactly, vintage sunglasses. I'm looking for a leopard print coat, 257 00:12:12,505 --> 00:12:14,545 Speaker 3: and if you type in leopard print coat, it's going 258 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:17,305 Speaker 3: to show you lepard print coats. And then from there 259 00:12:18,025 --> 00:12:20,665 Speaker 3: you can find sellers that you like because you can 260 00:12:20,705 --> 00:12:24,385 Speaker 3: see their page and it's curated. So for example, if 261 00:12:24,385 --> 00:12:28,825 Speaker 3: someone's looking up low waisted jeans and we pop up, 262 00:12:28,985 --> 00:12:30,825 Speaker 3: they might see our page and go, oh, I like 263 00:12:30,905 --> 00:12:33,905 Speaker 3: this page of style, this is my esthetic, and then 264 00:12:33,985 --> 00:12:37,225 Speaker 3: find more things on our page. So it's fun because 265 00:12:37,225 --> 00:12:40,425 Speaker 3: you're looking around and you're shopping this marketplace like you 266 00:12:40,465 --> 00:12:41,745 Speaker 3: would at a market store. 267 00:12:41,905 --> 00:12:43,865 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. But you can be in your pj's, 268 00:12:43,865 --> 00:12:46,465 Speaker 2: sculling in bed or the baby's having an app. I 269 00:12:46,505 --> 00:12:57,425 Speaker 2: love that. How did you start out in terms of 270 00:12:57,465 --> 00:12:59,305 Speaker 2: when did you and your cousin get to the point 271 00:12:59,385 --> 00:13:01,585 Speaker 2: going wow, this could be a real business or was 272 00:13:01,625 --> 00:13:02,465 Speaker 2: that always the goal. 273 00:13:03,025 --> 00:13:05,985 Speaker 3: I've been a fashion designer for many, many years and 274 00:13:06,025 --> 00:13:10,505 Speaker 3: always having really been inspired by vintage, vintage shapes, buying 275 00:13:10,585 --> 00:13:12,985 Speaker 3: vintage and kind of using that in the design process. 276 00:13:13,465 --> 00:13:16,465 Speaker 3: And I started my own brand by like making prints 277 00:13:16,465 --> 00:13:20,465 Speaker 3: that were inspired by vintage. We started doing glebe markets 278 00:13:20,665 --> 00:13:24,025 Speaker 3: and the vintage kind of took over in the sense 279 00:13:24,065 --> 00:13:27,025 Speaker 3: that people were more inclined to pick up the vintage 280 00:13:27,025 --> 00:13:29,785 Speaker 3: piece because it was a better price point for the market. 281 00:13:30,025 --> 00:13:30,305 Speaker 1: Right. 282 00:13:30,465 --> 00:13:32,745 Speaker 3: The vintage rail just kind of grew and grew and 283 00:13:32,785 --> 00:13:36,865 Speaker 3: grew until my label was online. But deepop is great 284 00:13:36,905 --> 00:13:39,425 Speaker 3: for us because it kind of allows people from all 285 00:13:39,465 --> 00:13:42,425 Speaker 3: over Australia and internationally to find us and buy from 286 00:13:42,505 --> 00:13:43,705 Speaker 3: us other sellers. 287 00:13:43,785 --> 00:13:45,465 Speaker 2: Is there any other sellers that you've seen that have 288 00:13:45,505 --> 00:13:48,025 Speaker 2: made mistakes wise people could improve to get the best 289 00:13:48,065 --> 00:13:48,865 Speaker 2: out of their listings. 290 00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:49,785 Speaker 1: If they're selling. 291 00:13:49,545 --> 00:13:53,265 Speaker 3: Something, like I said, a really good photo with lots 292 00:13:53,265 --> 00:13:57,025 Speaker 3: of natural light, then are very like as descriptive as 293 00:13:57,065 --> 00:14:00,665 Speaker 3: you can be, So describe the colors, the fabric, the length, 294 00:14:01,305 --> 00:14:03,705 Speaker 3: and the more specific you are, the more you'll come 295 00:14:03,785 --> 00:14:04,865 Speaker 3: up in people searches. 296 00:14:05,145 --> 00:14:05,945 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. 297 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:07,745 Speaker 2: And then probably the last questions you'll get, which is 298 00:14:07,785 --> 00:14:11,065 Speaker 2: a lot of admin to answer back and forth. What's 299 00:14:11,105 --> 00:14:14,745 Speaker 2: your take on the sustainability aspect of buying and selling secondhand? 300 00:14:14,825 --> 00:14:16,505 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a no brainer is to me. But 301 00:14:16,585 --> 00:14:18,545 Speaker 2: is that part of your ethos of your business? 302 00:14:19,265 --> 00:14:22,225 Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty percent. It's something that I feel 303 00:14:22,305 --> 00:14:25,785 Speaker 3: really strongly about. I did work in fast fashion at 304 00:14:25,785 --> 00:14:29,105 Speaker 3: one point of my life. Thinking back to that time 305 00:14:29,145 --> 00:14:32,465 Speaker 3: and not realizing the damage that that causes to the 306 00:14:32,545 --> 00:14:36,745 Speaker 3: environment and also people. I would never go back there. 307 00:14:37,265 --> 00:14:40,425 Speaker 3: And this is a really good way of keeping clothes 308 00:14:40,785 --> 00:14:44,265 Speaker 3: circular and stopping them from ending up in landfill. And 309 00:14:44,305 --> 00:14:47,665 Speaker 3: I think we all as people that love fashion, have 310 00:14:47,705 --> 00:14:50,705 Speaker 3: a responsibility because you can be really cool. You can 311 00:14:50,745 --> 00:14:54,305 Speaker 3: be super stylish and have like me, new clothing your 312 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:58,345 Speaker 3: wardrobe every week without having to cost the earth. 313 00:14:59,025 --> 00:15:02,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, and more individual and more I guess, quirking and creative. 314 00:15:02,345 --> 00:15:04,785 Speaker 2: So if people are finding or looking to find good 315 00:15:04,865 --> 00:15:07,705 Speaker 2: deals on deep hop, we've talked about negotiating good to 316 00:15:07,785 --> 00:15:10,745 Speaker 2: know from a buyer perspective that it's a done thing. 317 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:12,945 Speaker 2: What do you find is kind of like the average. 318 00:15:12,945 --> 00:15:17,265 Speaker 2: Obviously you've got your beautiful secondhand thrifting vintage vibe, and 319 00:15:17,305 --> 00:15:19,785 Speaker 2: then what's the level, Like we mentioned Beck and Bridge, 320 00:15:19,825 --> 00:15:22,065 Speaker 2: is it sort of that kind of level. It's not 321 00:15:22,145 --> 00:15:23,865 Speaker 2: your Chanelle, but it's not your Anko. 322 00:15:24,385 --> 00:15:27,305 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying there's not designer stuff on there, 323 00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:32,105 Speaker 3: but it isn't like the super designer marketplace. I feel 324 00:15:32,145 --> 00:15:35,505 Speaker 3: like a lot of people that have a really amazing 325 00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:39,585 Speaker 3: designer archive collection have their own website. 326 00:15:40,145 --> 00:15:41,865 Speaker 2: Maybe use vestiair Collective. 327 00:15:42,105 --> 00:15:45,225 Speaker 3: But even for us as sellers, like sometimes it's really 328 00:15:45,265 --> 00:15:48,625 Speaker 3: hard to verify and show people that it's genuine. So 329 00:15:48,705 --> 00:15:52,385 Speaker 3: like we've sold der sunglasses on Etsy and people are 330 00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:55,345 Speaker 3: always like, oh, but are they real. It's like, well, yes, 331 00:15:55,425 --> 00:15:58,625 Speaker 3: it has a certificate, it looks real, it feels real. 332 00:15:59,065 --> 00:16:02,105 Speaker 3: I've bought it from a very reliable place, but it's 333 00:16:02,225 --> 00:16:03,425 Speaker 3: kind of hard to prove to you. 334 00:16:03,705 --> 00:16:03,905 Speaker 2: Yeah. 335 00:16:04,025 --> 00:16:06,745 Speaker 3: I mean even those big websites have been in trouble 336 00:16:06,785 --> 00:16:08,905 Speaker 3: for selling things that are not real. 337 00:16:09,065 --> 00:16:11,865 Speaker 2: So I just isn't it funny because scammers have almost 338 00:16:11,865 --> 00:16:14,625 Speaker 2: done everyone a disservice because now everyone's so worried about 339 00:16:14,665 --> 00:16:17,825 Speaker 2: being scammed. It's good that they're double triple checking. But 340 00:16:18,305 --> 00:16:21,825 Speaker 2: when you are selling an authentic item, particularly in your case, 341 00:16:21,905 --> 00:16:24,465 Speaker 2: sometimes it's vintage so you don't have the receipt but 342 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,625 Speaker 2: you know it's new, it can be hard to prove. 343 00:16:26,905 --> 00:16:29,265 Speaker 3: You know, I'd rather sell it in the store, touch 344 00:16:29,305 --> 00:16:31,065 Speaker 3: and feel it fee for themselves. 345 00:16:31,145 --> 00:16:33,345 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a really good tip in general, and I think, yeah, 346 00:16:33,385 --> 00:16:35,705 Speaker 2: if you are searching for something that's a bit fancy 347 00:16:35,945 --> 00:16:38,665 Speaker 2: buying online buy bware, you might want to be able 348 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,665 Speaker 2: to go and touch and feel or make sure you're 349 00:16:40,665 --> 00:16:43,345 Speaker 2: getting it through a reputable luxury reseller. 350 00:16:43,665 --> 00:16:46,545 Speaker 3: I have come across like a lot of really fancy 351 00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:49,985 Speaker 3: newer designer pieces, and I've actually passed it to someone 352 00:16:50,105 --> 00:16:53,225 Speaker 3: else to sell because I'm like, I just don't know 353 00:16:53,385 --> 00:16:56,625 Speaker 3: that world. Yes, I don't want to dabble in it 354 00:16:56,665 --> 00:16:58,585 Speaker 3: and get in trouble for doing something wrong. So I 355 00:16:58,665 --> 00:17:00,145 Speaker 3: passed them over to a girl that I know, and 356 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,905 Speaker 3: I said, have fun sell these on eBay. I'm happy 357 00:17:02,905 --> 00:17:04,705 Speaker 3: to get what I can get for them. And I'm 358 00:17:04,745 --> 00:17:07,145 Speaker 3: sure all resellers went, oh my god, they're so cheap 359 00:17:07,185 --> 00:17:11,585 Speaker 3: and bore them, but whole nother world of reselling. 360 00:17:11,745 --> 00:17:15,065 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, so there's definitely different categories. So last 361 00:17:15,145 --> 00:17:17,545 Speaker 2: question before we get into bootie and budget. A regular 362 00:17:17,585 --> 00:17:21,785 Speaker 2: person like me at home has maybe two suitcases worth 363 00:17:21,825 --> 00:17:24,065 Speaker 2: of things that I'd like to list. Do I do 364 00:17:24,105 --> 00:17:26,145 Speaker 2: it all at once? Do I set aside a day 365 00:17:26,225 --> 00:17:28,225 Speaker 2: and take a bunch of photos and upload it? And 366 00:17:28,265 --> 00:17:30,665 Speaker 2: then do I share that on my socials? How do 367 00:17:30,705 --> 00:17:33,145 Speaker 2: I tell people about it? If I'm just a regular 368 00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:35,265 Speaker 2: old person trying to do the right thing by the 369 00:17:35,305 --> 00:17:36,625 Speaker 2: planet and clear the wardrobe. 370 00:17:36,745 --> 00:17:40,545 Speaker 3: My tips would be find a spot in your house 371 00:17:40,585 --> 00:17:44,265 Speaker 3: that's got a white or very light wall, hang it up, 372 00:17:44,705 --> 00:17:47,385 Speaker 3: steam it in it, make it look decent, because you 373 00:17:47,425 --> 00:17:50,065 Speaker 3: don't want to be showing people a brown paper bag 374 00:17:50,865 --> 00:17:54,185 Speaker 3: that's been kind of chewed up or sat in the suitcase. Yeah, 375 00:17:54,225 --> 00:17:56,465 Speaker 3: I'd probably just night it out in a day, or 376 00:17:56,505 --> 00:17:59,265 Speaker 3: take all the photos in one go and then slowly 377 00:17:59,385 --> 00:18:02,865 Speaker 3: upload because the uploading and the descriptions you can kind 378 00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:04,425 Speaker 3: of do when you're getting a petty. 379 00:18:04,665 --> 00:18:06,505 Speaker 2: Yes, so true, And yeah, I guess if you upload 380 00:18:06,505 --> 00:18:07,945 Speaker 2: it all at once and everyone wants to buy all 381 00:18:07,945 --> 00:18:09,625 Speaker 2: at once, and that's a lot of admin. 382 00:18:09,305 --> 00:18:11,545 Speaker 3: Of sense won't happen that quickly. 383 00:18:11,665 --> 00:18:12,305 Speaker 1: Oh damn it. 384 00:18:13,305 --> 00:18:14,905 Speaker 3: You can make it to you, but you're not going 385 00:18:14,985 --> 00:18:16,025 Speaker 3: to sell out overnight. 386 00:18:16,145 --> 00:18:17,985 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, especially if you're starting. 387 00:18:18,145 --> 00:18:20,665 Speaker 3: Unless you're a big influencer who's posted it on your 388 00:18:20,665 --> 00:18:23,185 Speaker 3: Instagram story. Everyone wants a piece of you. 389 00:18:23,345 --> 00:18:25,785 Speaker 2: Yeah okay. So the algorithm is not that tricky, but 390 00:18:25,905 --> 00:18:28,425 Speaker 2: it's worth yack, you say, pop it up. You've taken 391 00:18:28,465 --> 00:18:31,065 Speaker 2: the photos, you've made the listening, and then you can 392 00:18:31,145 --> 00:18:32,825 Speaker 2: keep adding to it and keep that stuff in a 393 00:18:32,865 --> 00:18:35,025 Speaker 2: safe place where you know when it sells you can 394 00:18:35,585 --> 00:18:51,425 Speaker 2: get out and nothing to lose. It's very expensive, how wondre. 395 00:18:54,865 --> 00:18:57,305 Speaker 2: We're going to end the episode with bougie and budgets. 396 00:18:57,385 --> 00:19:00,265 Speaker 2: So I have a budget item that I bought off 397 00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:01,585 Speaker 2: Deep hop that I'm very proud of. 398 00:19:01,705 --> 00:19:03,985 Speaker 1: Although it's not vintage, it was something I was looking for. 399 00:19:04,025 --> 00:19:06,625 Speaker 2: And then a bougie item something I'm considering that I 400 00:19:06,705 --> 00:19:09,345 Speaker 2: want to get your opinion on. I'm going to start 401 00:19:09,345 --> 00:19:12,305 Speaker 2: by telling you about my budget. It's a country road 402 00:19:12,345 --> 00:19:14,625 Speaker 2: cross body bag that I recently bought because I had 403 00:19:14,625 --> 00:19:18,065 Speaker 2: it in ten and I absolutely flogged it and then 404 00:19:18,065 --> 00:19:20,505 Speaker 2: I wanted it in a cream and I just hoped 405 00:19:20,505 --> 00:19:23,465 Speaker 2: it came in cream. I googled it sold out years ago, 406 00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,465 Speaker 2: a year ago, and then I went on deep hop 407 00:19:25,585 --> 00:19:28,385 Speaker 2: and someone hadn't even used it and it was I 408 00:19:28,385 --> 00:19:31,105 Speaker 2: think I paid twenty dollars for it, and it's I mean, 409 00:19:31,105 --> 00:19:32,905 Speaker 2: I don't have to justify while I love the bag, 410 00:19:33,025 --> 00:19:36,105 Speaker 2: but it literally had the tag on it, and I thought, 411 00:19:36,145 --> 00:19:37,345 Speaker 2: oh no, I'm never going to be able to get 412 00:19:37,385 --> 00:19:39,785 Speaker 2: that bag again. Got it brand new for a quarter 413 00:19:39,825 --> 00:19:41,905 Speaker 2: of the price in the color I wanted. 414 00:19:42,025 --> 00:19:46,425 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just so happy with It's something so 415 00:19:46,505 --> 00:19:50,185 Speaker 3: satisfying about getting something that you've been thinking about but 416 00:19:50,305 --> 00:19:54,665 Speaker 3: haven't bought. When it's secondhand or pre loved for a bargain, 417 00:19:55,025 --> 00:19:58,745 Speaker 3: it just gives you this rush of like, I am awesome. 418 00:19:58,905 --> 00:20:00,225 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so good at this. 419 00:20:00,745 --> 00:20:04,705 Speaker 3: And that's why secondhand clothes are so addictive. 420 00:20:05,025 --> 00:20:07,305 Speaker 2: Tell me about your budget, either something you've bought or 421 00:20:07,385 --> 00:20:08,345 Speaker 2: sold or loved. 422 00:20:08,905 --> 00:20:10,665 Speaker 3: So one of my my favorite things that I bought 423 00:20:11,065 --> 00:20:14,545 Speaker 3: was a total bargain. It was thirty five dollars. And 424 00:20:14,745 --> 00:20:17,345 Speaker 3: for those people that listen that are old enough, it's 425 00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:21,825 Speaker 3: a Miss sixty Maxi dress with the big epic lace 426 00:20:21,945 --> 00:20:25,345 Speaker 3: up leather detail and like a really cool, crazy psychedelic 427 00:20:25,425 --> 00:20:30,025 Speaker 3: print and it remembers Miss sixty was these shits. Oh yeah, 428 00:20:30,065 --> 00:20:32,625 Speaker 3: but it was the Creme de la creme and you 429 00:20:32,785 --> 00:20:34,785 Speaker 3: can definitely not find it in a Westfield. So I 430 00:20:34,825 --> 00:20:37,505 Speaker 3: was really excited and happy that I have this dress 431 00:20:37,545 --> 00:20:38,505 Speaker 3: now that no one else has. 432 00:20:38,665 --> 00:20:40,025 Speaker 1: And do you still have it or have you moved 433 00:20:40,065 --> 00:20:40,585 Speaker 1: it on yet? 434 00:20:40,705 --> 00:20:42,825 Speaker 3: I still have it. I'm waiting for it to fit 435 00:20:42,905 --> 00:20:43,905 Speaker 3: me post baby. 436 00:20:44,105 --> 00:20:45,865 Speaker 2: Okay, that's exciting. I know. 437 00:20:45,985 --> 00:20:48,025 Speaker 1: I love that thrill. There's no thrill like a good 438 00:20:48,025 --> 00:20:48,665 Speaker 1: thrift find. 439 00:20:48,945 --> 00:20:49,585 Speaker 3: It's the best. 440 00:20:49,865 --> 00:20:52,265 Speaker 2: Okay, bougie, I'm going to run these past you. I 441 00:20:52,305 --> 00:20:54,465 Speaker 2: think you're gonna say no because they're still too expensive, 442 00:20:54,505 --> 00:20:57,305 Speaker 2: but I'm obsessed with the row. The row is the 443 00:20:57,305 --> 00:21:02,425 Speaker 2: owlsome Twins brand. It's very expensive, like outrageously expensive. And 444 00:21:02,505 --> 00:21:05,545 Speaker 2: I also want a cream or white loafer for winter. 445 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:10,865 Speaker 2: I found a white loafer by the row on Deepop 446 00:21:10,945 --> 00:21:13,985 Speaker 2: that's three hundred New Zealand dollars. I don't really know exchange, 447 00:21:14,025 --> 00:21:16,705 Speaker 2: but much of a much is three hundred dollars. They've 448 00:21:16,705 --> 00:21:19,345 Speaker 2: said they bought them off the real reel that's third hand, 449 00:21:19,385 --> 00:21:21,945 Speaker 2: but they look hardly worn. Well, what doesn't matter greed. 450 00:21:22,065 --> 00:21:23,665 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure they're not counterfeit. But 451 00:21:23,745 --> 00:21:26,865 Speaker 2: like we discussed before, I think three hundred dollars, let's 452 00:21:26,905 --> 00:21:29,625 Speaker 2: just pretend New Zealand Australia the same. It's not that different. 453 00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:32,745 Speaker 2: For the row, white loafers, all leather, I reckon that's 454 00:21:32,745 --> 00:21:35,145 Speaker 2: a good deal. And like you said, I've searched on 455 00:21:35,505 --> 00:21:36,865 Speaker 2: Deep Hop for over the row and there's not a 456 00:21:36,865 --> 00:21:39,065 Speaker 2: lot on there. I go on Best Year Collective. There's 457 00:21:39,105 --> 00:21:41,825 Speaker 2: so much Row, so maybe not enough people are listing 458 00:21:41,865 --> 00:21:43,225 Speaker 2: stuff on there. And that's why it's a bargain. 459 00:21:43,425 --> 00:21:45,345 Speaker 3: What are they usually sell for? Because when I see 460 00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:46,785 Speaker 3: the row of the boots like two. 461 00:21:46,625 --> 00:21:48,945 Speaker 2: Grand Yeah, that's my point. Like their shoes are in 462 00:21:48,985 --> 00:21:50,385 Speaker 2: the thousands. 463 00:21:50,025 --> 00:21:53,025 Speaker 3: Don't even think about it. Get them because if they sell, yes, 464 00:21:53,105 --> 00:21:55,425 Speaker 3: you're going to regret it forever. You're not going to 465 00:21:55,465 --> 00:21:57,465 Speaker 3: be able to find them for that price again. And 466 00:21:58,105 --> 00:22:00,865 Speaker 3: leather shoes the biggest investment. 467 00:22:00,545 --> 00:22:03,345 Speaker 2: Right and my size. It's like dresses. Then things can 468 00:22:03,345 --> 00:22:04,985 Speaker 2: be altered if you need or worn over size, but 469 00:22:05,025 --> 00:22:06,705 Speaker 2: shoes they got to be the right size. 470 00:22:06,905 --> 00:22:10,145 Speaker 3: And if they're good quality shoes, you're getting at because 471 00:22:10,145 --> 00:22:13,505 Speaker 3: you'll just live in them. And I'd say that is 472 00:22:13,585 --> 00:22:17,665 Speaker 3: so much more sustainable than going on an iconic or 473 00:22:17,665 --> 00:22:20,665 Speaker 3: an Asos and buying a pleathor shoe that's gonna last 474 00:22:20,705 --> 00:22:21,545 Speaker 3: you two months. 475 00:22:21,585 --> 00:22:24,305 Speaker 2: I love you so much for approving this one question. 476 00:22:24,505 --> 00:22:26,625 Speaker 2: If I'm buying from New Zealand anything I need to know, 477 00:22:26,665 --> 00:22:28,865 Speaker 2: I've never bought overseas. I just buy it and they 478 00:22:28,865 --> 00:22:30,825 Speaker 2: send you buy it. 479 00:22:31,065 --> 00:22:34,385 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm like so confident in the Yes. 480 00:22:34,825 --> 00:22:36,305 Speaker 2: Okay, you're the best. I'm buying it. 481 00:22:36,345 --> 00:22:37,825 Speaker 3: You're gonna wear them, get them. 482 00:22:37,905 --> 00:22:38,625 Speaker 1: I'm getting it. 483 00:22:38,665 --> 00:22:41,025 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. If you don't wear them, 484 00:22:41,225 --> 00:22:44,225 Speaker 3: the resell they've sat there for two months. Put them 485 00:22:44,265 --> 00:22:46,345 Speaker 3: back on deepop. Well, put them up on eBay and 486 00:22:46,385 --> 00:22:47,905 Speaker 3: you can add an extra hundred bucks. 487 00:22:47,945 --> 00:22:50,905 Speaker 2: You are genius. Okay, before I buy those, can you 488 00:22:50,945 --> 00:22:52,785 Speaker 2: tell me about your bougie. It doesn't have to be 489 00:22:52,825 --> 00:22:55,505 Speaker 2: as fancy as the row, because I know your vibe 490 00:22:55,545 --> 00:22:57,145 Speaker 2: is all sort of more vintage. 491 00:22:57,545 --> 00:22:58,385 Speaker 1: What have you got for me? 492 00:22:58,665 --> 00:23:02,145 Speaker 3: This will also show you my age. But I have 493 00:23:02,745 --> 00:23:05,985 Speaker 3: still not let go of this high school obsession with 494 00:23:06,065 --> 00:23:07,025 Speaker 3: Wills and doll Baby. 495 00:23:07,345 --> 00:23:09,745 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, the hold that brand had on me. 496 00:23:10,105 --> 00:23:12,545 Speaker 3: Well, Wills and Door Baby has always had a special 497 00:23:12,545 --> 00:23:15,385 Speaker 3: place in my heart and it's something that you can't 498 00:23:15,385 --> 00:23:18,905 Speaker 3: buy anymore. So I'm always looking for Wils and door 499 00:23:18,945 --> 00:23:21,425 Speaker 3: Baby things. I just love collecting it. 500 00:23:21,905 --> 00:23:22,185 Speaker 2: Okay. 501 00:23:22,225 --> 00:23:25,505 Speaker 3: It's all Australian made and unique, and so whenever I 502 00:23:25,585 --> 00:23:28,505 Speaker 3: find a little Wills and door Baby bargain online, I 503 00:23:28,585 --> 00:23:29,305 Speaker 3: just have to get it. 504 00:23:29,385 --> 00:23:30,225 Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. 505 00:23:30,305 --> 00:23:32,545 Speaker 2: Oh well, if I find anyone my searches, I'll send 506 00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:33,305 Speaker 2: links your way. 507 00:23:33,625 --> 00:23:36,905 Speaker 3: Have any in your suitcases that you've call you message 508 00:23:36,945 --> 00:23:37,785 Speaker 3: me before you listen. 509 00:23:38,185 --> 00:23:41,105 Speaker 2: When I find a weekend, I will message you. Kara, 510 00:23:41,185 --> 00:23:43,465 Speaker 2: thank you so much for sharing all your inside tips. 511 00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:45,425 Speaker 2: Obviously we'll Poplinx in the show notes to all of 512 00:23:45,465 --> 00:23:48,505 Speaker 2: your handles so people can go shop your delicious curations. 513 00:23:48,505 --> 00:23:50,705 Speaker 2: But thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. 514 00:23:51,105 --> 00:23:52,065 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 515 00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:55,345 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't 516 00:23:55,345 --> 00:23:57,265 Speaker 2: forget to sign up to the Nothing to Wear News 517 00:23:57,265 --> 00:23:59,505 Speaker 2: that aren't There's a link in the show notes. This 518 00:23:59,625 --> 00:24:03,145 Speaker 2: episode was produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production by 519 00:24:03,225 --> 00:24:03,705 Speaker 2: Lou Hill.