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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mumma Mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano.

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Speaker 4: This is Mumma MIA's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie.

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Speaker 4: The White Lotus Season three is here, with speculation already

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Speaker 4: flying around about who'll end up dead and who's responsible.

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Speaker 4: Today we'll bring you theories on who've done it, plus

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Speaker 4: some more of the other eyebrow raising plotlines this time round,

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Speaker 4: and on a more serious node.

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Speaker 3: When we talk about healthcare in Australia, we.

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Speaker 4: Often pride ourselves on having one of the best systems

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Speaker 4: in the world, universal healthcare, medicare, bulk billing, things that

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Speaker 4: many countries can only dream of.

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Speaker 3: So why is.

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Speaker 4: Access to abortion care a different story? We're looking into

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Speaker 4: the prominence of abortion deserts across the country. Before we

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Speaker 4: get to those stories, though, here's Kimberly Bradish with the

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Speaker 4: latest from the Quickie newsroom for Friday, February twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: Oscar winning American actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy

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Speaker 5: Mexico in the US Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office said

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Speaker 5: deputies responded to a request to do a welfare check

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Speaker 5: at the home on Wednesday afternoon and found Hackman, Aricawa,

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Speaker 5: and their dog dead. The police said it was an

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Speaker 5: active investigation, but they did not believe that foul play

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Speaker 5: was a factor. The ninety five year old Hollywood star

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Speaker 5: Hackman and the sixty four year old Aricawa had been

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Speaker 5: married since nineteen ninety one. Hackman received two Oscars, two Bafters,

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Speaker 5: four Golden Globes, and a Screen Actors Guild Award in

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Speaker 5: an acting career that spanned six decades. He secured the

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Speaker 5: Best Actor Oscar in nineteen seventy two for his role

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Speaker 5: as Detective Jimmy Popeye Doyle in The French Connection. Hackman

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Speaker 5: landed a further Academy Award in the Best Supporting Actor

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Speaker 5: category for his part in the nineteen ninety two western Unforgiven,

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Speaker 5: directed by Clint Eastwood. News of his death comes just

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Speaker 5: four days before this year year Academy Award ceremony. Today,

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Speaker 5: the ABC will make its final defense in the high

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Speaker 5: profile case of Antoinette Latouf, a journalist who was dismissed

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Speaker 5: in Gaza. Ltouf was let go three days into a

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Speaker 5: week long fill in stint on ABC Radio Sydney, and

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Speaker 5: she has since sued the broadcaster for unlawful dismissal, citing

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Speaker 5: discrimination based on her political opinion and race. Her barrister

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Speaker 5: argues that ABC executives wanted her removed following complaints from

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Speaker 5: pro Israel lobbyists. The ABC claims Latouf wasn't fired, even

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Speaker 5: though the Fair Work Commission says that she was. The

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Speaker 5: case has cost the ABC over one point one million

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Speaker 5: dollars in taxpayer funds defending it. Closing submissions from both

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Speaker 5: sides are scheduled for today and tomorrow in the federal court,

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Speaker 5: marking a crucial moment in the ongoing legal battle. Controversial

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Speaker 5: social media influences Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate have left

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Speaker 5: Romania for the United States after a travel ban imposed

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Speaker 5: on them was lifted. The brothers faced serious charges in Romania,

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Speaker 5: including human trafficking and forming a criminal gang to sexually

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Speaker 5: exploit women, with Andrew also accused of rape. Despite these allegations,

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Speaker 5: they maintain their innocence and claim there is a political

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Speaker 5: conspiracy against them. It was not clear what conditions the Tates,

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Speaker 5: who are avid supporters of US President Donald Trump and

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Speaker 5: the decision was at the discretion of prosecutors, with conditions

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Speaker 5: Romania for future court appearances as their legal battles continue

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Speaker 5: both in Romania and the UK, and in a significant

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Speaker 5: shift for work life balance, Australia's right to disconnect law

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Speaker 5: the law prepares to extend to small businesses in August

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, is expected to further impact the Australian

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Speaker 5: workplace by promoting healthier work life balance and reducing burnout.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Kim next who Killed Who? In The White Lotus Season.

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Speaker 4: Three, The White Loaders has become a cultural phenomenon since

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Speaker 4: its debut in twenty twenty one. Creator Mike White satirical

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Speaker 4: anthology series follows the guests and employees at the fictional

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Speaker 4: White Lotus resort chain, with each season set in a

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Speaker 4: new location featuring a mysterious death. Season three has taken

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Speaker 4: us to Thailand, where the stunning beaches and temples provide

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Speaker 4: opened with the non traditional flashboard to a death scene,

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Speaker 4: of course talking about the departure of the iconic season

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Speaker 3: To this look music aside a mystery will maybe.

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Speaker 4: pressing matters like who's going to die this season? To

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Speaker 4: and some further far reaching ones were joined by Mumma

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Speaker 4: MEA's senior entertainment writer, Tara Watson. Tara, who are fans

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Speaker 2: So the most obvious one is Blinda because it's her

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Speaker 2: But when her son finds the body, he runs away

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Speaker 2: Then there's the two men that are just stressed all

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Speaker 2: He's got phone calls going on, there's something happening potentially

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Speaker 4: there's this theory floating around Tanya aka Jennifer Coolidge's character

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this theory is wild.

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Speaker 2: So people have decided that the monkeys are Jennifer Coolidge.

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Speaker 3: When you say the monkeys, what do you mean, which.

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Speaker 2: The title cards for season one and two when her

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Speaker 4: I applaud fans so hard for even picking up on

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Speaker 3: I reckon that would have passed me by. So potentially

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Speaker 2: It's so straight so that she could be a monkey.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about some of the other theories around

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Speaker 4: We've only had two episodes so far, but I want

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Speaker 4: to talk about the three women on the Girl's Trip.

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Speaker 4: So Kate, Laurie, and Jacqueline. They're longtime friends. One of

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Speaker 4: We've already seen some of that mean girl behavior play

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Speaker 2: Yes, They're my favorite storyline on the show by far.

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Speaker 3: The resentment is starting to grow.

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Speaker 2: Resentment's growing. So if Glory's pushed too far, I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: And what about the theories around the Ratliffe family. There's

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: It's giving Sam and Hannah keating from How to Get

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Speaker 4: Finally Tara before We Let You Go, Greg is back

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Speaker 4: Greg Greg. So for folks who don't know who is

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Speaker 4: Greg and what's he doing this season, we hate Greg.

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Speaker 2: I would be happy if Greg dies, and I think

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Speaker 2: So we love Tangya. She's a little tragic, but we

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Speaker 2: season two they were on a holiday together. Then he disappeared,

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Speaker 2: plotting to kill her by coordinating attack with a bunch

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Speaker 3: Please this geese.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to murder me, So I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that was actually true. There's a lot that was going

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Speaker 2: all went wrong for poor Tanya. And now he's back

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Speaker 4: So Greg has transitioned himself to Gary in this season,

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Speaker 4: and we're not quite sure what path he's going to

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Speaker 2: We're not. But Belinda has recognized him, which is a

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Speaker 2: very interesting tie in because Tanya was going to fund

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Speaker 2: Belinda setting up her own spa in season one, but

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Speaker 2: then Tanya left those plans, just absolutely abandoned Belinda to

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Speaker 2: then pursue Greg. So Belinda could have a vendetta against Greg.

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Speaker 3: Well, Belinda's got an extra grind.

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Speaker 2: So my theory, just gonna put this out there, is

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Speaker 2: into the murder. This whole gun shots thing is a

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Speaker 2: red herring. I think Belinda might poison Greg with a

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Speaker 4: Hey, if you've got a fan theory that we didn't

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Speaker 4: get to send them through to the Quickies dms over

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Speaker 4: on Instagram. You'll find us at the Quickie in other news.

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Speaker 4: Abortion may be legal across Australia, but access to it

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Speaker 4: is a completely different story. Despite one in four Australians

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Speaker 4: there's still no national approach to abortion care. Each state

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Speaker 4: and territory has its own rules, meaning your access to

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Speaker 4: abortion really depends on where you live. Takes out Australia,

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Speaker 4: for example, where you can access abortion care at minimal

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Speaker 4: there are only a handful of public hospitals offering abortion

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Speaker 4: that really look like for women trying to access abortion

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Speaker 4: care in Australia, especially for those who live in what's

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Speaker 4: known as an abortion desert. Nicole Madigan has more.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six, Natalie had just returned from a year

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Speaker 1: Despite being careful and using two types of contraceptive, she

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Speaker 1: when she requested a referral to an abortion clinic, the

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Speaker 1: GP simply said, I can't give you that. What Natalie

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Speaker 1: pay another bill, and start the process again. Making matters

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Speaker 1: worse is that Natalie was living in what's being dubbed

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Speaker 1: an abortion desert, an area where accessing legal abortion services

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Speaker 1: means traveling more than one hundred and sixty kilometers. For Natalie,

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Speaker 1: an abortion meant a seven hundred kilometer round trip to Melbourne,

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Speaker 1: of the lucky ones. She could actually make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Not all women are so fortunate. Research from the University

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Speaker 1: of Sydney shows that despite abortion being legal in Australia,

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Speaker 1: for many women, accessing it is anything but simple. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Anna Nonan, who's extensively studied this issue, says after years

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Speaker 1: that hasn't happened. While telehealth services are now available for

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Speaker 1: in some states laws restrict who can prescribe abortion medication,

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Speaker 1: even overriding recent TGA changes that would allow qualified nurses

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Speaker 1: South Wales have no options for surgical abortion services other

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Speaker 1: than traveling to Sydney, Newcastle or interstate. Even gps who

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Speaker 1: Finatalie the cost and emotional toll of her abortion was heavy,

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Speaker 1: forced to have a child. She's concerned about other women

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Speaker 1: in similar situation, especially those who can least afford to

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Speaker 1: wait or travel. The question remains, why does Australia's health

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Speaker 1: system still treat abortion differently from other medical procedures. It's

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Speaker 1: system that provides vasectoms still doesn't treat abortion as a

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Speaker 1: necessary part of reproductive health care.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 4: us today. The Quikie is produced by me Tailorestrano and

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Speaker 4: Claire Murphy, with audio production by Leu Hill.