1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:22,105 Speaker 1: is recorded on Hey you bees. Lee here with another recommendation. 4 00:00:22,465 --> 00:00:25,785 Speaker 1: I recently had an incredible woman called Kim on Nothing 5 00:00:25,825 --> 00:00:29,265 Speaker 1: to Wear, and we were chatting about shopping, budgets, how 6 00:00:29,265 --> 00:00:30,785 Speaker 1: to get the most out of what we wear, and 7 00:00:31,065 --> 00:00:33,665 Speaker 1: she gave me a few sort of stats and methods 8 00:00:33,945 --> 00:00:36,225 Speaker 1: that blew my mind when it came to the way 9 00:00:36,225 --> 00:00:37,985 Speaker 1: I shopped and the way I dressed. It really did 10 00:00:38,025 --> 00:00:39,865 Speaker 1: revolutionize the way I think about it, and I think 11 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:41,825 Speaker 1: you might find it handy too, So we're dropping it 12 00:00:41,865 --> 00:00:43,825 Speaker 1: here for you to listen. Let me know what you think. 13 00:00:45,745 --> 00:00:49,025 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 14 00:00:48,745 --> 00:00:51,145 Speaker 3: Laurels spraying groundbreaking? 15 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:53,665 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 16 00:00:53,785 --> 00:00:54,465 Speaker 2: for fashion. 17 00:00:55,745 --> 00:00:58,185 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 18 00:00:58,265 --> 00:01:01,825 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Camberllan. 19 00:01:01,985 --> 00:01:04,585 Speaker 1: Every week I chat to an expert who helps us 20 00:01:04,625 --> 00:01:06,225 Speaker 1: work out how to get more out of the clothes 21 00:01:06,265 --> 00:01:09,265 Speaker 1: you already own and tells us what is and isn't 22 00:01:09,265 --> 00:01:12,505 Speaker 1: worth it adding to our wardrobes. Now before I get started. 23 00:01:12,705 --> 00:01:14,825 Speaker 1: Stick around to the very end because there's an extra 24 00:01:14,865 --> 00:01:17,705 Speaker 1: segment on this episode. The Wonderful me of Friedman and 25 00:01:17,745 --> 00:01:19,985 Speaker 1: I don't just say that because she's my boss. Is 26 00:01:20,025 --> 00:01:21,585 Speaker 1: coming to sit down with me and we're going to 27 00:01:21,625 --> 00:01:24,465 Speaker 1: talk about pre Loved. It's the new financial year. We 28 00:01:24,545 --> 00:01:26,865 Speaker 1: might have overspent, we might want to just save some money, 29 00:01:27,025 --> 00:01:29,905 Speaker 1: or we might just want some unique outfits or to 30 00:01:29,985 --> 00:01:31,705 Speaker 1: clear out our wardrobes. So we're going to talk about 31 00:01:31,745 --> 00:01:34,705 Speaker 1: pre Loved, buying and selling, how to do it, where 32 00:01:34,745 --> 00:01:37,665 Speaker 1: to look if it's overwhelming. We're going to cover it all. 33 00:01:38,025 --> 00:01:41,185 Speaker 1: But first, I've got Kim Crowley joining me. She's been 34 00:01:41,225 --> 00:01:43,225 Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times before, and she 35 00:01:43,465 --> 00:01:45,465 Speaker 1: is a virgo. I had to ask her because she's 36 00:01:45,585 --> 00:01:49,665 Speaker 1: so clever and strategic when it comes to shopping, getting 37 00:01:49,745 --> 00:01:52,865 Speaker 1: dressed and saving money. So it's a new financial year. 38 00:01:52,945 --> 00:01:55,145 Speaker 1: You might have blown the budget, but that's okay. It's 39 00:01:55,145 --> 00:01:57,505 Speaker 1: a new year, So we're going to talk about saving money, 40 00:01:58,145 --> 00:02:02,425 Speaker 1: doing our wardrobe audit, and then her very interesting four 41 00:02:02,505 --> 00:02:04,905 Speaker 1: by four methods got nothing to do with cars, So 42 00:02:05,265 --> 00:02:09,385 Speaker 1: let's jump into it. Kim, welcome back. I'm so excited, 43 00:02:09,825 --> 00:02:10,545 Speaker 1: third time. 44 00:02:10,905 --> 00:02:13,505 Speaker 2: Third or fourth. Yes, it's great that I'm using count 45 00:02:13,505 --> 00:02:15,425 Speaker 2: I love it exactly. 46 00:02:15,505 --> 00:02:18,305 Speaker 1: That means we love you the returning guests. Well, I've 47 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:20,585 Speaker 1: got various questions, but one that I want to ask 48 00:02:20,625 --> 00:02:24,585 Speaker 1: you is do you have a fashion security blanket? And 49 00:02:24,625 --> 00:02:25,985 Speaker 1: if so, what is it. 50 00:02:26,105 --> 00:02:29,745 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. My trench coat is a 51 00:02:29,745 --> 00:02:31,625 Speaker 2: really well loved piece. Actually put it from ceed A 52 00:02:31,785 --> 00:02:34,785 Speaker 2: just go it to toffee color cotton. I get compliments 53 00:02:34,785 --> 00:02:35,665 Speaker 2: on it every time. 54 00:02:35,465 --> 00:02:38,265 Speaker 1: I wear You say toffee. Why I say toffee, like, 55 00:02:38,305 --> 00:02:39,665 Speaker 1: not tan, not brown? 56 00:02:39,985 --> 00:02:42,905 Speaker 2: Because I love food as well, so I can associate 57 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:46,465 Speaker 2: any colors with food. I love it even more. But 58 00:02:46,505 --> 00:02:48,585 Speaker 2: it's this beautiful toffee color. It's really rich color and 59 00:02:48,625 --> 00:02:50,425 Speaker 2: it goes with everything. I have to actually stop myself 60 00:02:50,465 --> 00:02:50,905 Speaker 2: wearing it. 61 00:02:50,865 --> 00:02:52,705 Speaker 1: So you can wear your other things exactly because I. 62 00:02:52,705 --> 00:02:53,625 Speaker 2: Want to wear more of my clothes. 63 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:54,425 Speaker 1: It's security blank. 64 00:02:54,505 --> 00:02:56,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a bit security blank, especially at the 65 00:02:56,065 --> 00:02:57,905 Speaker 2: moment it's chili and you can wrap yourself up because 66 00:02:57,905 --> 00:03:00,585 Speaker 2: that cotton actually does help the wind not get to you. 67 00:03:00,705 --> 00:03:04,105 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's kind of it's not water proof proof, 68 00:03:04,185 --> 00:03:05,705 Speaker 1: but it really does that better. 69 00:03:06,105 --> 00:03:10,425 Speaker 2: Tighten fine fiber, yes, exactly, really tight woven so it's 70 00:03:10,465 --> 00:03:12,665 Speaker 2: actually a bit protective. Yeah, and then like waiting it 71 00:03:12,705 --> 00:03:15,545 Speaker 2: where Yeah, I'm just living in it. I know it's winter, 72 00:03:15,585 --> 00:03:17,385 Speaker 2: but god, I love it even for summer. I love 73 00:03:17,505 --> 00:03:18,305 Speaker 2: like waiting it where too. 74 00:03:19,105 --> 00:03:22,665 Speaker 1: So, Kim, you've been in the industry for over twenty years, 75 00:03:22,665 --> 00:03:24,745 Speaker 1: which is bizarre. You must have been like eleven when 76 00:03:24,745 --> 00:03:27,545 Speaker 1: you start. Of course you worked as a designer, so 77 00:03:27,585 --> 00:03:29,865 Speaker 1: anyone that's listened to the show before will know that. 78 00:03:30,265 --> 00:03:33,145 Speaker 1: And then for brands like H and M a source, Yeah, 79 00:03:33,185 --> 00:03:35,345 Speaker 1: I was gonna say brands like H and M and Aos. 80 00:03:35,345 --> 00:03:37,705 Speaker 1: I didn't know that on a pis Yeah, yeah. 81 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:40,025 Speaker 2: Right at the beginning when a souce was literally much 82 00:03:40,065 --> 00:03:44,025 Speaker 2: more about Paris Hilton. Yeah, yeah, just literally replicate like 83 00:03:44,065 --> 00:03:44,545 Speaker 2: I've seen. 84 00:03:44,785 --> 00:03:47,425 Speaker 1: I've seen on screen. Yeah, we kind of started shop 85 00:03:47,665 --> 00:03:48,345 Speaker 1: Drop magazine. 86 00:03:48,505 --> 00:03:51,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy thinking about then and how much it's evolved. 87 00:03:51,385 --> 00:03:53,465 Speaker 1: But then you also work with real people, so well 88 00:03:53,545 --> 00:03:56,225 Speaker 1: you have all shapes and sizes absolutely, So what are 89 00:03:56,225 --> 00:03:59,105 Speaker 1: the some of the common things women that you've worked 90 00:03:59,145 --> 00:04:02,225 Speaker 1: with over the decades and all walks of live share 91 00:04:02,345 --> 00:04:04,425 Speaker 1: when it comes to clothes and style. 92 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,185 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so many things that we all share. It's funny, 93 00:04:07,185 --> 00:04:09,705 Speaker 2: there's this kind of like so many things that we 94 00:04:09,745 --> 00:04:12,305 Speaker 2: all share and then when we get deeper, we're very 95 00:04:12,345 --> 00:04:14,585 Speaker 2: different in lots of different ways. But there is a big, 96 00:04:14,625 --> 00:04:16,545 Speaker 2: big area that we all share a lot of It 97 00:04:16,585 --> 00:04:19,825 Speaker 2: is not knowing how to shop, So being able to 98 00:04:20,425 --> 00:04:26,425 Speaker 2: understand how to you know, shop strategically, not emotionally, but 99 00:04:26,585 --> 00:04:31,665 Speaker 2: one of the biggest biggest things, and it is, you know, 100 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:34,545 Speaker 2: we have to change the way that we've been behaving 101 00:04:34,585 --> 00:04:37,425 Speaker 2: for decades, right, And that's what I'm trying to plant 102 00:04:37,505 --> 00:04:39,745 Speaker 2: seeds for a lot of my clients. But one of 103 00:04:39,785 --> 00:04:43,505 Speaker 2: the biggest, biggest things is the ability to buy stuff 104 00:04:44,625 --> 00:04:47,665 Speaker 2: but not put the clothes into outfits. That's one of 105 00:04:47,745 --> 00:04:50,025 Speaker 2: the biggest things that I deal with all the time. 106 00:04:50,105 --> 00:04:51,985 Speaker 2: So lots of people can buy lots of stuff. 107 00:04:52,145 --> 00:04:56,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, yea, I'm fabulous that it shopping wrong. 108 00:04:57,025 --> 00:04:59,465 Speaker 1: Then that's where you can't get dressed. 109 00:04:59,105 --> 00:05:01,705 Speaker 2: Exactly because you haven't got the outfit. So the whole 110 00:05:01,745 --> 00:05:03,785 Speaker 2: nothing to wear concept is, you know, you look at 111 00:05:03,785 --> 00:05:07,105 Speaker 2: your wardrobe and it's stacked and it's all packed, but 112 00:05:07,145 --> 00:05:09,385 Speaker 2: we've got nothing to wear is often because we haven't 113 00:05:09,425 --> 00:05:12,705 Speaker 2: found the outfit yet. And that's so much of what 114 00:05:12,785 --> 00:05:14,585 Speaker 2: brings me do. It really does light me up when 115 00:05:14,585 --> 00:05:16,745 Speaker 2: I'm in wardrobes. In fact, I had two of them yesterday. 116 00:05:16,785 --> 00:05:19,145 Speaker 2: I had a female client and male client and they're like, 117 00:05:19,185 --> 00:05:22,305 Speaker 2: I've got loads of stuff, but I can't find the outfits. 118 00:05:22,305 --> 00:05:23,705 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, have you done that? Have you 119 00:05:23,745 --> 00:05:24,025 Speaker 2: done that? 120 00:05:24,105 --> 00:05:24,145 Speaker 1: No? 121 00:05:24,785 --> 00:05:27,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of us will get say a dress, 122 00:05:27,185 --> 00:05:28,465 Speaker 2: and then we'll put it with the black blazer and 123 00:05:28,505 --> 00:05:30,025 Speaker 2: black shoe and it's like, I've done that. Look, I'm 124 00:05:30,025 --> 00:05:34,025 Speaker 2: really bored of it. And then I'm like, have you 125 00:05:34,065 --> 00:05:36,665 Speaker 2: put it with this blazer? They work perfect? Oh yes, 126 00:05:37,025 --> 00:05:38,665 Speaker 2: because a lot of the time what we do when 127 00:05:38,665 --> 00:05:40,665 Speaker 2: we purchase, we put things in boxes in our heads. 128 00:05:40,745 --> 00:05:43,985 Speaker 2: You know that lighter blazer is a wedding blazer and 129 00:05:44,025 --> 00:05:46,945 Speaker 2: this dress is a sexy date night dress. We don't 130 00:05:46,985 --> 00:05:50,345 Speaker 2: think that the two can coexist or pair together, and 131 00:05:50,385 --> 00:05:52,305 Speaker 2: so I want to be able to go in and go. 132 00:05:52,465 --> 00:05:54,305 Speaker 2: Of course it does, because I don't see the barriers. 133 00:05:54,665 --> 00:05:58,385 Speaker 2: I don't see like how you think that your wardrobe. 134 00:05:58,465 --> 00:06:00,785 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this goes with this, this goes with this, 135 00:06:00,785 --> 00:06:01,465 Speaker 2: this goes with this. 136 00:06:01,585 --> 00:06:03,865 Speaker 1: Because you said it's how to shop, so is how 137 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:06,585 Speaker 1: do we fix that problem at the shopping stage, so 138 00:06:06,625 --> 00:06:08,345 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in the wardrobe stage. 139 00:06:08,505 --> 00:06:10,585 Speaker 2: That is a lot of it is fixed by my 140 00:06:10,625 --> 00:06:11,585 Speaker 2: four by four formula. 141 00:06:11,665 --> 00:06:13,625 Speaker 1: Oh we're going to talk about that later. Oh okay, cool, Yes, 142 00:06:13,665 --> 00:06:16,265 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that later because I'm terrible 143 00:06:16,265 --> 00:06:17,825 Speaker 1: at maths and you love numbers, but you're going to 144 00:06:17,865 --> 00:06:21,265 Speaker 1: teach me something. It's a new financial year, which I 145 00:06:21,345 --> 00:06:23,465 Speaker 1: love the first of July. Oh, you know, the start 146 00:06:23,465 --> 00:06:25,385 Speaker 1: of the new financial year, because I've had quite a 147 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:27,745 Speaker 1: crappy start to the year, not fashion related, but I'm 148 00:06:27,745 --> 00:06:30,345 Speaker 1: just got you. I'm like, you know what happier year? 149 00:06:30,705 --> 00:06:34,785 Speaker 1: Fresh energy, fresh, five fresh everything, yep. And you know, 150 00:06:34,905 --> 00:06:37,705 Speaker 1: of course it's the financial year. So we've all got 151 00:06:37,705 --> 00:06:40,985 Speaker 1: money on our minds. What's the biggest money mistake you 152 00:06:41,025 --> 00:06:44,305 Speaker 1: see people making when it comes to fashion? So many 153 00:06:44,345 --> 00:06:45,905 Speaker 1: well we talk about how we're going to fix them. 154 00:06:45,985 --> 00:06:49,825 Speaker 2: So three main ones. First one is buying on sale, 155 00:06:50,105 --> 00:06:51,945 Speaker 2: so many can't say I bought this, but I've never 156 00:06:51,985 --> 00:06:55,585 Speaker 2: worn it. Bought this but it's you know, I haven't 157 00:06:55,585 --> 00:06:56,945 Speaker 2: worn it. And it's all got tickets, and it's all 158 00:06:56,945 --> 00:06:58,985 Speaker 2: got sell tickets being read mark you know, stamps, all 159 00:06:59,025 --> 00:06:59,505 Speaker 2: over them in all the. 160 00:06:59,505 --> 00:07:01,745 Speaker 1: Rest of sale extra discount yeah, which. 161 00:07:01,865 --> 00:07:05,585 Speaker 2: Sounds really enticing, yes, but is not how I want 162 00:07:05,585 --> 00:07:07,185 Speaker 2: you to shop. You know, if you really love that 163 00:07:07,225 --> 00:07:08,985 Speaker 2: product and you've watched it go down down. 164 00:07:08,865 --> 00:07:11,665 Speaker 1: To you would have got it full price exactly. 165 00:07:11,265 --> 00:07:13,425 Speaker 2: Jump on it. But nothing is a bargain if you 166 00:07:13,425 --> 00:07:15,665 Speaker 2: don't wear it. And you know, having like three or 167 00:07:15,705 --> 00:07:17,865 Speaker 2: four pieces that oh I only cost thirty bucks or 168 00:07:17,905 --> 00:07:21,545 Speaker 2: fifteen or forty or whatever your budget, it all adds up, 169 00:07:21,625 --> 00:07:23,265 Speaker 2: but you never wear it. So it takes up space, 170 00:07:23,305 --> 00:07:25,865 Speaker 2: takes up brain space, makes us feel guilty, takes up 171 00:07:25,905 --> 00:07:28,305 Speaker 2: guilt exactly, And I don't want people to feel good. 172 00:07:28,345 --> 00:07:31,745 Speaker 2: I want to actually have less that they wear more. 173 00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:34,625 Speaker 2: So the whole buying on sale thing is not I 174 00:07:34,785 --> 00:07:36,625 Speaker 2: it's I know, it's hard. Sometimes we look around Storm, 175 00:07:36,785 --> 00:07:37,225 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 176 00:07:37,145 --> 00:07:38,905 Speaker 1: I really love it. You don't shop the sales. 177 00:07:39,265 --> 00:07:42,745 Speaker 2: I only shop it if I really love it. 178 00:07:43,065 --> 00:07:45,625 Speaker 1: So maybe you were already across Yeah, I was like, 179 00:07:46,345 --> 00:07:48,185 Speaker 1: you have that brand and you check out their sale. 180 00:07:48,185 --> 00:07:50,465 Speaker 1: You don't just find a random website that's having a 181 00:07:50,465 --> 00:07:52,105 Speaker 1: great sale with random stuff you've never seen. 182 00:07:52,145 --> 00:07:57,025 Speaker 2: Okay, No, So to Cuba, I've got beautiful pleated cream nitpants. 183 00:07:57,305 --> 00:07:59,105 Speaker 2: I was looking for something like that. I happened to 184 00:07:59,105 --> 00:08:01,905 Speaker 2: be shopping for myself, which is quite rare, and they're 185 00:08:01,905 --> 00:08:04,225 Speaker 2: not on sale, and I was like, oh, I'm definitely 186 00:08:04,265 --> 00:08:05,985 Speaker 2: going to buy them, okay because they. 187 00:08:05,945 --> 00:08:08,465 Speaker 1: Were Yes, that star was already something you were seeing. 188 00:08:08,545 --> 00:08:11,425 Speaker 2: Absolutely. The other thing, yeah, I need more. Here is 189 00:08:11,465 --> 00:08:14,545 Speaker 2: the buying three for two, you know, those whole spend and. 190 00:08:14,505 --> 00:08:15,665 Speaker 1: Save only good for andy. 191 00:08:15,665 --> 00:08:18,785 Speaker 2: It's just capitalism, yes, exactly. Yeah, it's just capitalism. They're 192 00:08:18,785 --> 00:08:20,705 Speaker 2: trying to make you buy more. So we often think 193 00:08:20,745 --> 00:08:22,865 Speaker 2: shopping is a numbers game, or if I buy three 194 00:08:22,945 --> 00:08:24,465 Speaker 2: that's going to make me happy, then if I had two. 195 00:08:24,625 --> 00:08:27,345 Speaker 1: Yeah, Also that I fall into this chap. All the 196 00:08:27,385 --> 00:08:28,945 Speaker 1: time of free shipping, I'm like, oh, I've got to 197 00:08:28,945 --> 00:08:31,545 Speaker 1: find something else the free, but I don't really need 198 00:08:31,545 --> 00:08:33,305 Speaker 1: the other thing. Yeah, I should have just paid the 199 00:08:33,345 --> 00:08:35,465 Speaker 1: ten dollars shipping, yeah, rather than trying to round up 200 00:08:35,465 --> 00:08:37,145 Speaker 1: to forty. Yeah, you know exactly. 201 00:08:37,425 --> 00:08:41,305 Speaker 2: So it is really keeping your eye on how desirable 202 00:08:41,345 --> 00:08:44,425 Speaker 2: the item is that you want and buying one and 203 00:08:44,465 --> 00:08:47,225 Speaker 2: buying right, rather than buying plenty and buying so. 204 00:08:47,305 --> 00:08:49,905 Speaker 1: One of the stim mistakes you see is people buy 205 00:08:50,385 --> 00:08:53,105 Speaker 1: more than they need, more than they need, yeah, Kim, 206 00:08:53,225 --> 00:08:54,705 Speaker 1: stop following me everywhere. 207 00:08:54,825 --> 00:08:57,465 Speaker 2: And then the third thing is thinking we need five 208 00:08:57,585 --> 00:09:00,025 Speaker 2: new tops when really we need one new top that 209 00:09:00,065 --> 00:09:03,225 Speaker 2: we can wear five ways. Because you know, I could 210 00:09:03,225 --> 00:09:05,905 Speaker 2: talk about shopping being a numbers game. The number I 211 00:09:05,945 --> 00:09:08,265 Speaker 2: want you to care about is how many ways you 212 00:09:08,265 --> 00:09:12,945 Speaker 2: can wear something? Yeah, yeah, rather yes, exactly, rather than 213 00:09:13,025 --> 00:09:15,145 Speaker 2: having all those five new items in your wardrobe, you're 214 00:09:15,145 --> 00:09:18,025 Speaker 2: probably ain't gonna wear two. If you've got one that's 215 00:09:18,065 --> 00:09:20,945 Speaker 2: really versatile, it flatters, you feel really good in it, 216 00:09:21,025 --> 00:09:23,185 Speaker 2: layers under things you can marry on its own, you 217 00:09:23,225 --> 00:09:27,145 Speaker 2: don't exactly you can wear it five ways, So you know, 218 00:09:27,185 --> 00:09:30,105 Speaker 2: I want people to start pivoting the numbers game. The 219 00:09:30,145 --> 00:09:32,785 Speaker 2: way that we think shopping is about buying lots of 220 00:09:32,865 --> 00:09:35,105 Speaker 2: stuff because hopefully one of it will make us feel good, 221 00:09:35,225 --> 00:09:36,905 Speaker 2: and that's just capitalism. 222 00:09:37,505 --> 00:09:40,145 Speaker 1: I think it feels like we will feel better when 223 00:09:40,145 --> 00:09:43,065 Speaker 1: we've got options, but then we oftentimes feel overwhelmed and 224 00:09:43,105 --> 00:09:43,705 Speaker 1: it makes it. 225 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:46,225 Speaker 2: Harder exactly exactly. And that's actually something I was talking 226 00:09:46,225 --> 00:09:48,705 Speaker 2: about the other day. My clients feel really underwhelmed with 227 00:09:48,745 --> 00:09:52,105 Speaker 2: their wardrobe, overwhelmed by the shops. Yeah, and it's like 228 00:09:52,105 --> 00:09:53,425 Speaker 2: I feel, and that's when we feel start. 229 00:09:53,465 --> 00:09:54,705 Speaker 1: That's such a good way to look at it. 230 00:09:55,225 --> 00:09:55,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 231 00:09:55,905 --> 00:09:57,865 Speaker 1: So I just don't know what I do. I just buy, 232 00:09:57,865 --> 00:09:58,305 Speaker 1: I think. 233 00:09:58,225 --> 00:10:01,305 Speaker 2: Exactly, because we haven't found the outfit yet that exists 234 00:10:01,305 --> 00:10:03,185 Speaker 2: in our wardrobe. Because this is the thing as. 235 00:10:03,065 --> 00:10:05,665 Speaker 1: A desire, because oftentimes I'm just shopping because I'm bored 236 00:10:05,745 --> 00:10:08,065 Speaker 1: or said or getting my period, or I'm rewarding my Yes. 237 00:10:08,305 --> 00:10:09,985 Speaker 2: Yes, but that's when you need to buy it stick 238 00:10:10,185 --> 00:10:10,945 Speaker 2: or something like that. 239 00:10:11,425 --> 00:10:15,665 Speaker 1: Snack yeah, yeah, massage, yes. 240 00:10:15,705 --> 00:10:19,305 Speaker 2: Facial something else that will that will have that return 241 00:10:19,345 --> 00:10:20,905 Speaker 2: on investment, because that's what I want people to think 242 00:10:20,905 --> 00:10:23,705 Speaker 2: about when they're purchasing. What's my return on investment? Every 243 00:10:23,745 --> 00:10:26,145 Speaker 2: textile you bring into your house, think about the return 244 00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:27,745 Speaker 2: and investment that cost per waar. 245 00:10:28,385 --> 00:10:32,745 Speaker 1: Yeah that's so. And the financial has just happened. We've 246 00:10:32,865 --> 00:10:34,785 Speaker 1: ordered it all of our well maybe the tax department 247 00:10:35,025 --> 00:10:37,345 Speaker 1: has ordered us. So we've done our finances. So let's 248 00:10:37,585 --> 00:10:39,665 Speaker 1: ordit our wardrobe. 249 00:10:39,985 --> 00:10:40,585 Speaker 2: What do we do? 250 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:43,705 Speaker 1: We go through our wardrobe and we work out you know, 251 00:10:43,705 --> 00:10:45,785 Speaker 1: what we already do have, and we work out gaps. 252 00:10:45,825 --> 00:10:47,905 Speaker 1: And for me, this is something I really need to do. 253 00:10:47,905 --> 00:10:49,585 Speaker 1: Because I've spoken to you before, I love to buy 254 00:10:49,665 --> 00:10:52,865 Speaker 1: duplicates because I love a genre shirt and I accidentally 255 00:10:52,905 --> 00:10:55,425 Speaker 1: buy another one. I don't need another one. So we're 256 00:10:55,425 --> 00:10:58,505 Speaker 1: going to do an audit of our wardrobe and then 257 00:10:58,585 --> 00:11:01,265 Speaker 1: we're gonna decide what to do with those things later. 258 00:11:01,305 --> 00:11:04,145 Speaker 1: But what's our process when doing that audit? I love 259 00:11:04,185 --> 00:11:06,025 Speaker 1: saying audit, yes, because it's. 260 00:11:06,105 --> 00:11:10,265 Speaker 2: Financially it sounds very freshal So what we want to do. 261 00:11:10,345 --> 00:11:12,585 Speaker 2: So basically, when we're looking at our wardrobe and we're 262 00:11:12,585 --> 00:11:15,705 Speaker 2: deciding what we're wearing, a really good way to do 263 00:11:15,745 --> 00:11:17,825 Speaker 2: it is to actually look at the things that you're 264 00:11:17,865 --> 00:11:20,105 Speaker 2: wearing the most, so they're the things that you're washing 265 00:11:20,345 --> 00:11:23,065 Speaker 2: the most, right, and you bring them out yeah, because 266 00:11:23,065 --> 00:11:23,825 Speaker 2: you know that you're. 267 00:11:23,865 --> 00:11:26,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you love it. 268 00:11:26,145 --> 00:11:28,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we're and also, you know what part 269 00:11:28,745 --> 00:11:30,345 Speaker 2: of the reason I do insta, as I've told before, 270 00:11:30,465 --> 00:11:32,465 Speaker 2: is because I want to just be able to look 271 00:11:32,505 --> 00:11:34,265 Speaker 2: back at really what I'm wearing. Because sometimes what you 272 00:11:34,265 --> 00:11:36,465 Speaker 2: think you're wearing what you really wear are slightly different, 273 00:11:37,225 --> 00:11:39,505 Speaker 2: but you put them all out in your bed and 274 00:11:39,545 --> 00:11:41,785 Speaker 2: then what you do because when we put things in 275 00:11:41,785 --> 00:11:44,265 Speaker 2: our wardrobe and they're all side hanging. It's kind of hard. 276 00:11:44,385 --> 00:11:45,985 Speaker 2: We think we know what's in there, and we think 277 00:11:46,025 --> 00:11:48,145 Speaker 2: we know what it looks like. But actually I want 278 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:50,745 Speaker 2: you to bring them out because out of those pieces 279 00:11:50,785 --> 00:11:54,825 Speaker 2: that you're wearing, you're probably only wearing like very formulaic outfits. 280 00:11:55,105 --> 00:11:56,785 Speaker 2: So you might wear one top with one bottom, this 281 00:11:56,865 --> 00:11:58,505 Speaker 2: top with this bottom, this top with this bottom. 282 00:11:58,585 --> 00:12:00,305 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's in your head. 283 00:12:00,185 --> 00:12:02,585 Speaker 2: Exactly because we know the outfit is familiar, and we 284 00:12:02,625 --> 00:12:04,225 Speaker 2: go back to what we know. You know, we've got 285 00:12:04,265 --> 00:12:06,825 Speaker 2: that kind of photographic memory. I want you to wear 286 00:12:06,865 --> 00:12:08,865 Speaker 2: that top with that bottom. So I want you to 287 00:12:08,905 --> 00:12:10,945 Speaker 2: wear like outfits top number three. 288 00:12:11,625 --> 00:12:13,185 Speaker 1: Them at least just try it on and see how 289 00:12:13,465 --> 00:12:17,025 Speaker 1: the experiment. So you're doing dress up. Absolutely the order 290 00:12:17,225 --> 00:12:20,145 Speaker 1: absolutely kind of order because that text department, and that's 291 00:12:20,185 --> 00:12:22,185 Speaker 1: my kind of order, makes. 292 00:12:21,945 --> 00:12:24,185 Speaker 2: The text department a little bit more interesting. But what 293 00:12:24,265 --> 00:12:26,785 Speaker 2: I find fascinating, and what I didn't realize at the time, 294 00:12:26,945 --> 00:12:29,745 Speaker 2: is that we buy things and put them in our wardrobes, right, 295 00:12:29,745 --> 00:12:31,505 Speaker 2: and we expect our wardrobes to work really hard for 296 00:12:31,545 --> 00:12:33,545 Speaker 2: us and to give all this stuff back to us, 297 00:12:33,585 --> 00:12:35,465 Speaker 2: as in, you know, I've bought this, I've spent two 298 00:12:35,545 --> 00:12:37,745 Speaker 2: hundred dollars on the top. Now it's time to know 299 00:12:37,865 --> 00:12:40,625 Speaker 2: to stop reaping the fit exactly and get some return 300 00:12:40,705 --> 00:12:43,705 Speaker 2: on investment. But we don't actually then invest the time 301 00:12:43,745 --> 00:12:46,185 Speaker 2: to play with that garment. We buy it, we wear 302 00:12:46,225 --> 00:12:47,945 Speaker 2: it one way and we're like, okay, I'm onto the 303 00:12:47,985 --> 00:12:48,345 Speaker 2: next thing. 304 00:12:48,545 --> 00:12:49,385 Speaker 1: It's so true, and. 305 00:12:49,305 --> 00:12:51,465 Speaker 2: I want you to go deeper on that garment because 306 00:12:51,465 --> 00:12:54,705 Speaker 2: there's so much potential in your wardrobe. There really is, 307 00:12:55,145 --> 00:12:57,665 Speaker 2: but we need to give our wardrobe time to be 308 00:12:57,705 --> 00:12:59,505 Speaker 2: able to release that potential. It's not going to jump 309 00:12:59,505 --> 00:13:01,945 Speaker 2: out and bite you on the bum. You have to 310 00:13:01,985 --> 00:13:03,985 Speaker 2: go and it's not necessarily hard work. It's playful. 311 00:13:04,065 --> 00:13:05,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 312 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:08,425 Speaker 2: Literally take it down exactly, and you have to take 313 00:13:08,505 --> 00:13:09,865 Speaker 2: down the barriers that you've put in. 314 00:13:09,985 --> 00:13:10,105 Speaker 1: You know. 315 00:13:10,145 --> 00:13:12,065 Speaker 2: I go back to that jacket that it's light colored. 316 00:13:12,065 --> 00:13:14,625 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my wedding one, and then this is 317 00:13:14,665 --> 00:13:17,425 Speaker 2: my work pant and whatnot, and then we start combining them. 318 00:13:17,425 --> 00:13:20,025 Speaker 1: Like these are body yellow and like a few people 319 00:13:20,025 --> 00:13:21,745 Speaker 1: have said to me to say like, oh, like, aren't 320 00:13:21,745 --> 00:13:23,905 Speaker 1: you cold, and I'm like, well no, because I think 321 00:13:23,905 --> 00:13:26,865 Speaker 1: it's a summary base yes, and then yes, yeah, yeah, 322 00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:28,905 Speaker 1: lah way, I'd be like yellow exactly. 323 00:13:29,145 --> 00:13:32,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've put your jacket over it, exactly. But 324 00:13:32,705 --> 00:13:34,505 Speaker 2: had you not just spent a little bit of time 325 00:13:34,545 --> 00:13:37,185 Speaker 2: doing that, you would have put that top underneath and 326 00:13:37,225 --> 00:13:40,665 Speaker 2: that pan in your summer only wardrobe. And we put 327 00:13:40,705 --> 00:13:43,425 Speaker 2: barriers up, and I want to knock all those barriers down. 328 00:13:43,545 --> 00:13:45,625 Speaker 2: And by pulling things out on your bed a lot 329 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:47,985 Speaker 2: of time, the outfits make themselves. Yeah, because if you've 330 00:13:48,025 --> 00:13:49,785 Speaker 2: got a style, which we all have. We have all 331 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:52,145 Speaker 2: got personal style, and we've all got a type that 332 00:13:52,185 --> 00:13:53,865 Speaker 2: we like and a kind of look. So once we 333 00:13:53,905 --> 00:13:56,145 Speaker 2: put out our favorite pieces on our bed, the ones 334 00:13:56,145 --> 00:13:58,745 Speaker 2: that are on rotation, there's naturally going to be some 335 00:13:58,825 --> 00:14:01,505 Speaker 2: common denominators that make them go together. 336 00:14:01,505 --> 00:14:05,425 Speaker 1: And maybe not immediately logical outfits that yes, that's where 337 00:14:05,465 --> 00:14:06,985 Speaker 1: they're like, yes, work comes in. 338 00:14:07,105 --> 00:14:08,705 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. We always want to take 339 00:14:08,705 --> 00:14:09,385 Speaker 2: away the logic. 340 00:14:09,745 --> 00:14:11,985 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like the wrong shoe theory, but for 341 00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:23,625 Speaker 1: your fact exactly. All right, so we've done the audit. 342 00:14:23,865 --> 00:14:25,785 Speaker 1: Our happy clothes are having a party on the bed. 343 00:14:26,025 --> 00:14:31,185 Speaker 1: Then there's the clothes who have had a lovely life maybe, 344 00:14:31,425 --> 00:14:33,945 Speaker 1: but they're not going to make the party. You're not invited. Yea, 345 00:14:34,225 --> 00:14:35,625 Speaker 1: what are we doing with them? 346 00:14:35,945 --> 00:14:38,625 Speaker 2: So we are either because basically we don't want to 347 00:14:38,665 --> 00:14:41,905 Speaker 2: ever throw clothes away. It's either you try and sell it, 348 00:14:41,985 --> 00:14:43,745 Speaker 2: and this is in the right kind of order, so 349 00:14:43,785 --> 00:14:45,145 Speaker 2: you try and sell it and make some money to 350 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:47,105 Speaker 2: recycle that money into your extpent. 351 00:14:47,105 --> 00:14:49,465 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask, can I break them down there? Okay? 352 00:14:49,545 --> 00:14:51,745 Speaker 1: So I've got things that I are in my cell 353 00:14:51,825 --> 00:14:54,985 Speaker 1: pie or that could be a coach bag or an 354 00:14:55,025 --> 00:14:58,345 Speaker 1: ooriton bag or could be god, I've even got some 355 00:14:58,425 --> 00:15:02,705 Speaker 1: fancy things. But then I've got your maybe dish or 356 00:15:03,985 --> 00:15:06,265 Speaker 1: it's just I've got such a mix of things. I 357 00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:11,145 Speaker 1: don't know where to sell what or like what's valuable? Yeah, yeah, 358 00:15:11,185 --> 00:15:12,225 Speaker 1: because it's so personal. 359 00:15:12,385 --> 00:15:14,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, so sometime and that's it and you only need 360 00:15:14,225 --> 00:15:16,745 Speaker 2: one buyer. It's just getting to them, is it. So 361 00:15:16,905 --> 00:15:19,625 Speaker 2: it's either going to places like you know, pre loved 362 00:15:19,665 --> 00:15:21,905 Speaker 2: and consignment and all those places. 363 00:15:21,505 --> 00:15:23,665 Speaker 1: Like your designer Like I've got one designer beg. I 364 00:15:23,665 --> 00:15:26,065 Speaker 1: feel so guilty about buying, but I never use it. 365 00:15:26,105 --> 00:15:26,945 Speaker 1: So I'd like to read. 366 00:15:27,225 --> 00:15:29,465 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and as long as you learn a few lessons, 367 00:15:29,505 --> 00:15:32,065 Speaker 2: but why you don't wear it and use it, then 368 00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:33,705 Speaker 2: you've learned the lesson from it and you can set 369 00:15:33,705 --> 00:15:39,545 Speaker 2: it free and with exactly exactly so it's either consignment 370 00:15:39,745 --> 00:15:41,665 Speaker 2: or it might be on you know, the specific Facebook 371 00:15:41,665 --> 00:15:43,705 Speaker 2: groups that you can sell it. There's lots of different 372 00:15:43,745 --> 00:15:45,985 Speaker 2: ways to sell it. You can just sell it on marketplace, 373 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:50,745 Speaker 2: you know, best collector all different places eBay, depop exactly 374 00:15:50,945 --> 00:15:54,025 Speaker 2: exactly there are there are and it might just be 375 00:15:54,145 --> 00:15:55,985 Speaker 2: having a little bit of research to the type of 376 00:15:56,025 --> 00:15:57,985 Speaker 2: brands that seem to sell quite well and that they've 377 00:15:58,025 --> 00:16:00,425 Speaker 2: got you know, maybe not many listed on that actually 378 00:16:00,505 --> 00:16:03,345 Speaker 2: might go quicker for example, that's kind of quite good 379 00:16:03,385 --> 00:16:05,545 Speaker 2: to look at. If you can't sell it and make money, 380 00:16:05,705 --> 00:16:09,385 Speaker 2: then give it to a friend friend gift or you 381 00:16:09,665 --> 00:16:10,425 Speaker 2: wop it with a friend. 382 00:16:10,705 --> 00:16:12,905 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I've had some friends starting 383 00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:15,705 Speaker 1: to do little swaps and all little swap parties or. 384 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:18,265 Speaker 2: Great because it gives you life to that's all we 385 00:16:18,305 --> 00:16:20,665 Speaker 2: want to do, because it takes such a takes such 386 00:16:20,665 --> 00:16:22,865 Speaker 2: a lot of work. When I've been designing to to 387 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,185 Speaker 2: get a textile into the world and make it beautiful. 388 00:16:26,785 --> 00:16:28,745 Speaker 2: So to me, I look, I think of the long 389 00:16:28,905 --> 00:16:31,825 Speaker 2: life cycle of that garment, not just the wearing part, 390 00:16:32,185 --> 00:16:33,865 Speaker 2: the person one I'm like, what you're going to do 391 00:16:33,905 --> 00:16:36,345 Speaker 2: after the next thing is you if you don't give 392 00:16:36,345 --> 00:16:38,185 Speaker 2: it to a friend or swap it, then you give 393 00:16:38,225 --> 00:16:41,705 Speaker 2: it to charity. So many fashion forward dress for success. 394 00:16:41,705 --> 00:16:43,905 Speaker 2: There's so many great ones out there that really do 395 00:16:44,065 --> 00:16:45,425 Speaker 2: amazing things to women. 396 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:47,545 Speaker 1: For they're here in Bonde, but there are some Instagram 397 00:16:48,145 --> 00:16:50,545 Speaker 1: Yeah last week actually or did you then? Love? Tell 398 00:16:50,585 --> 00:16:53,305 Speaker 1: you what I got? But it's all for charity helps children. 399 00:16:53,465 --> 00:16:54,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, I needed to drop off to the match. 400 00:16:55,585 --> 00:16:57,825 Speaker 1: We'll day and I'll buy your things and give them 401 00:16:57,825 --> 00:17:01,105 Speaker 1: money to charity. But they really given your. 402 00:17:00,945 --> 00:17:04,825 Speaker 2: Exactly and you can't take dirty things to them. They're 403 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:06,625 Speaker 2: not going to accept it. So all of that goes 404 00:17:06,705 --> 00:17:09,305 Speaker 2: to rags. Anything it's really dirty, and I. 405 00:17:09,745 --> 00:17:12,505 Speaker 1: Think kids, daycare clothes and like stuff. 406 00:17:12,185 --> 00:17:15,345 Speaker 2: That's yeah, wash your car with it, clean the house, 407 00:17:15,385 --> 00:17:18,425 Speaker 2: clean kitchen, you know, use that style, wash it, chuck 408 00:17:18,425 --> 00:17:20,265 Speaker 2: it in with a wash and then and then keep 409 00:17:20,345 --> 00:17:22,345 Speaker 2: using it. Because they're textiles. They would just want to 410 00:17:22,385 --> 00:17:25,385 Speaker 2: be reused and used. So if we think about. 411 00:17:25,225 --> 00:17:27,745 Speaker 1: It, really trying to avoid landfillm absolutely because. 412 00:17:27,545 --> 00:17:29,465 Speaker 2: Someone else can get joy from it, and if they can't, 413 00:17:29,505 --> 00:17:30,185 Speaker 2: it goes to rags. 414 00:17:30,305 --> 00:17:33,185 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that all right, I've kept everyone waiting 415 00:17:33,265 --> 00:17:35,185 Speaker 1: long enough. We need to talk about you. Four by four. 416 00:17:35,265 --> 00:17:37,345 Speaker 1: It sounds like a big truck that would fit my 417 00:17:37,385 --> 00:17:39,905 Speaker 1: wardrobe dinner? Is that what it is? What's the four 418 00:17:40,025 --> 00:17:41,425 Speaker 1: x four theory methods? 419 00:17:41,465 --> 00:17:43,225 Speaker 2: The four boy four is basically right. So I have 420 00:17:43,265 --> 00:17:45,865 Speaker 2: obviously lots of clients that will buy four new pieces, 421 00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:47,505 Speaker 2: and I'm like, cool, have you you know, go around 422 00:17:47,505 --> 00:17:48,105 Speaker 2: the house when. 423 00:17:48,025 --> 00:17:52,105 Speaker 1: You say that, like in the one like season, day week. 424 00:17:52,585 --> 00:17:54,705 Speaker 2: Totally depends on the clients. Some people might buy four 425 00:17:54,705 --> 00:17:57,265 Speaker 2: pieces in a month. Okay, some people might buy four 426 00:17:57,305 --> 00:18:00,145 Speaker 2: over the season. Totally depends on shopping, habits, budget, all 427 00:18:00,185 --> 00:18:02,025 Speaker 2: those things. They've got four, but they've got if they've 428 00:18:02,065 --> 00:18:04,985 Speaker 2: got four recent things a lot of time, I'm like, okay, cool, 429 00:18:04,985 --> 00:18:07,025 Speaker 2: because so have you worn them together? Like oh no? 430 00:18:07,785 --> 00:18:09,265 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, have you tried oning? Oh no? 431 00:18:09,345 --> 00:18:13,425 Speaker 2: I just them randomly separately, and I've never liked outfitting them. 432 00:18:13,625 --> 00:18:15,425 Speaker 2: So my whole thing is, if ever you buy four 433 00:18:15,465 --> 00:18:18,185 Speaker 2: pieces to say, two tops, two bottoms, I want you 434 00:18:18,225 --> 00:18:21,625 Speaker 2: to not just create one outfit from that or two outfits. 435 00:18:21,625 --> 00:18:25,185 Speaker 2: So each time the bottom we need to cross pollinate it. 436 00:18:25,225 --> 00:18:28,945 Speaker 2: So for every four items, we can wear four outfits 437 00:18:28,985 --> 00:18:29,425 Speaker 2: we come crete. 438 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:31,825 Speaker 1: This is a process we go through before we purchase. 439 00:18:32,105 --> 00:18:34,425 Speaker 1: At the time of purchase, it has to like go 440 00:18:34,505 --> 00:18:36,065 Speaker 1: through this four by four before it's. 441 00:18:35,905 --> 00:18:39,025 Speaker 2: Allowed to be absolutely absolutely. 442 00:18:39,065 --> 00:18:42,425 Speaker 1: It's very hard. It's not okay, it's not I've had 443 00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:45,345 Speaker 1: my eye on this bomber. Let's pretend how do I 444 00:18:45,385 --> 00:18:46,545 Speaker 1: fall by four in my head? 445 00:18:46,665 --> 00:18:48,465 Speaker 2: So you make sure that the pant you want to 446 00:18:48,505 --> 00:18:50,465 Speaker 2: buy next, yeah, is going to go with it? 447 00:18:50,625 --> 00:18:53,145 Speaker 1: Or the skirt all the dress Okay, so it can 448 00:18:53,185 --> 00:18:55,425 Speaker 1: be a dress and bought the bomber. Now I see 449 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:58,065 Speaker 1: a skirt and I'm like, hang on, bombers new we'll 450 00:18:58,145 --> 00:18:59,625 Speaker 1: skirt get along with bombers exactly? 451 00:18:59,705 --> 00:19:00,705 Speaker 2: And are they going to be friends? 452 00:19:00,785 --> 00:19:03,265 Speaker 1: That's so clever because even if it's beyond the four, 453 00:19:04,065 --> 00:19:06,585 Speaker 1: you should think of your recent purchases and will at work, 454 00:19:06,625 --> 00:19:07,665 Speaker 1: will at work, will. 455 00:19:07,425 --> 00:19:10,225 Speaker 2: At work exactly, because I want every four pieces you buy, 456 00:19:10,265 --> 00:19:13,345 Speaker 2: says two tops and two bottoms to cross pollin ag Okay, 457 00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:16,065 Speaker 2: So you've got the four outfits going across, and then 458 00:19:16,265 --> 00:19:19,265 Speaker 2: what happens is you do those outfits and then you 459 00:19:19,305 --> 00:19:21,545 Speaker 2: look at them back with what you've bought last year. 460 00:19:21,625 --> 00:19:21,945 Speaker 4: Yeah. 461 00:19:21,985 --> 00:19:25,225 Speaker 1: Ten years ago, and it kind of inspires the process. 462 00:19:24,745 --> 00:19:27,945 Speaker 2: Absolutely because you're always thinking about the outfit, not the item. 463 00:19:27,985 --> 00:19:29,345 Speaker 2: And this is the thing when I go back to 464 00:19:29,345 --> 00:19:32,545 Speaker 2: the shopping, isn't a numbers game. It's the numbers game 465 00:19:32,745 --> 00:19:36,185 Speaker 2: is also about the outfits you're creating, not the items 466 00:19:36,185 --> 00:19:39,065 Speaker 2: you're purchasing. Because again, the whole numbers game, the capitalism 467 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:40,545 Speaker 2: part of you know, I'm going to go and buy 468 00:19:40,585 --> 00:19:42,185 Speaker 2: ten items and I know that will make me happy. 469 00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:45,465 Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't. So really thinking about the outcome 470 00:19:45,705 --> 00:19:46,425 Speaker 2: of the outfit. 471 00:19:46,505 --> 00:19:49,065 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so said skirt. I just said, oh, yes, 472 00:19:49,065 --> 00:19:50,465 Speaker 1: it goes with bomber, and it goes with that, and 473 00:19:50,505 --> 00:19:52,785 Speaker 1: then I go, oh that top, So then I go 474 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,145 Speaker 1: oh that top, Yes, that goes with skirt, which also 475 00:19:55,185 --> 00:19:57,145 Speaker 1: goes with bomber. And then it's kind of exactly and. 476 00:19:57,105 --> 00:19:59,345 Speaker 2: From that one top you can still create four outfits. 477 00:19:59,345 --> 00:19:59,985 Speaker 1: Okay. 478 00:20:00,185 --> 00:20:02,545 Speaker 2: So you've always got to think about, you know, because 479 00:20:02,585 --> 00:20:05,425 Speaker 2: otherwise we're just buying items on their own in silo 480 00:20:06,145 --> 00:20:08,145 Speaker 2: and we're never thinking really about the outfit. It's like, oh, 481 00:20:08,185 --> 00:20:09,905 Speaker 2: what's the outfit I can work with? The gene or 482 00:20:09,905 --> 00:20:13,065 Speaker 2: a black pant. That's not enough. So for every four items, 483 00:20:13,105 --> 00:20:16,425 Speaker 2: we need four outfits, and the compound interest it's not 484 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:18,105 Speaker 2: it's not. I mean, it does take a bit of thought, 485 00:20:18,105 --> 00:20:19,425 Speaker 2: and that's what I want people to do. I want 486 00:20:19,425 --> 00:20:23,425 Speaker 2: you to be considered and intentional about what they're purchasing. 487 00:20:23,745 --> 00:20:25,745 Speaker 2: But the great thing is the compound interest means that 488 00:20:25,785 --> 00:20:28,665 Speaker 2: once you then do those four you bought four items, 489 00:20:28,865 --> 00:20:32,705 Speaker 2: you created four outfits, Okay, Then when you're buying another 490 00:20:32,745 --> 00:20:35,785 Speaker 2: four later in the season next year, the compound interest 491 00:20:35,825 --> 00:20:38,265 Speaker 2: means that you might double the amount you're buying, but 492 00:20:38,345 --> 00:20:42,785 Speaker 2: you've tripled the amount of outfits because they're like breeding exactly. 493 00:20:43,225 --> 00:20:45,865 Speaker 2: So the compound interest effect means that you've actually got 494 00:20:46,065 --> 00:20:50,745 Speaker 2: way way more outfits from way less closed and fundamentally, 495 00:20:50,865 --> 00:20:51,665 Speaker 2: that's what I deliver. 496 00:20:51,785 --> 00:21:05,105 Speaker 3: It's very expensive, howld. 497 00:21:07,825 --> 00:21:10,585 Speaker 1: Okay, answer booty and budget. I mean, we've probably should 498 00:21:10,585 --> 00:21:13,225 Speaker 1: have done two budgets because we're talking about saving money 499 00:21:13,265 --> 00:21:15,585 Speaker 1: and getting more out of your clothes. However, I've bought 500 00:21:15,585 --> 00:21:18,065 Speaker 1: a bougie. Let's start with your budget though, what's your 501 00:21:18,105 --> 00:21:19,585 Speaker 1: budget and why. 502 00:21:19,305 --> 00:21:23,985 Speaker 2: My budget is the assembly labeled coat. It's a SADI coat. 503 00:21:24,225 --> 00:21:27,105 Speaker 2: It's currently on sale from two eighty to about one 504 00:21:27,225 --> 00:21:28,145 Speaker 2: nine five, but. 505 00:21:28,345 --> 00:21:30,825 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to shop the sales, Kim. I'm joking. 506 00:21:30,945 --> 00:21:33,585 Speaker 2: That is such a classic, so classic, you know, the 507 00:21:33,585 --> 00:21:36,345 Speaker 2: one that belted lots of colors. So some colors are 508 00:21:36,345 --> 00:21:38,905 Speaker 2: on sale, some aren't, and it's one hundred percent wall 509 00:21:39,305 --> 00:21:40,305 Speaker 2: and that's a really good. 510 00:21:40,145 --> 00:21:41,945 Speaker 1: And that's the best thing to buy on sales. Is 511 00:21:41,945 --> 00:21:45,985 Speaker 1: a staple quality that you're going to wear forbly discounted, 512 00:21:46,025 --> 00:21:48,025 Speaker 1: but it's saving you a bit of money on something 513 00:21:48,065 --> 00:21:51,585 Speaker 1: you will like flog to death and absolutely approved. Okay, 514 00:21:51,705 --> 00:21:55,625 Speaker 1: my budget is a Target bag. I don't know if 515 00:21:55,665 --> 00:21:57,225 Speaker 1: you've seen. They've been out for a little bit now. 516 00:21:57,385 --> 00:22:02,705 Speaker 1: The Target swayed one hundred collection of bags. So if 517 00:22:02,705 --> 00:22:04,425 Speaker 1: I first got some loafers at the start of winter, 518 00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:09,305 Speaker 1: real swayed the black arms, they're like wearing slippers. There's 519 00:22:09,305 --> 00:22:11,745 Speaker 1: also a hand and then the bag. I'm not getting 520 00:22:11,745 --> 00:22:13,185 Speaker 1: it because it's a new financial u and I'm trying 521 00:22:13,185 --> 00:22:14,745 Speaker 1: to save money and I actually need to sell some 522 00:22:14,825 --> 00:22:17,305 Speaker 1: of my bags. But before you replace them. Correct, If 523 00:22:17,305 --> 00:22:19,225 Speaker 1: I was in the market for a bag and it 524 00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:21,585 Speaker 1: could go back with my fourth wife four, I would 525 00:22:21,625 --> 00:22:23,345 Speaker 1: be getting. There's a few of them. Actually, they've got 526 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,065 Speaker 1: like a big slapchy bow hoe. But this one's the 527 00:22:25,105 --> 00:22:29,305 Speaker 1: premium suede leather bucket tote bag in Kagi. Yeah, it's 528 00:22:29,305 --> 00:22:30,065 Speaker 1: eighty dollars. 529 00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:32,785 Speaker 2: That's really good, and I love how that's quite structured 530 00:22:32,825 --> 00:22:35,345 Speaker 2: but also a bit slouchy. It's like lots of people's style. 531 00:22:35,385 --> 00:22:37,465 Speaker 1: I don't even work for them, but I'm just so impressed. 532 00:22:37,585 --> 00:22:40,225 Speaker 1: Like they do the bow hoy slouchy shoulder. 533 00:22:40,305 --> 00:22:42,625 Speaker 2: Oh is that in the suede too, it's that little 534 00:22:42,625 --> 00:22:45,985 Speaker 2: gold class. Oh that's impressive. That's impressive. 535 00:22:46,585 --> 00:22:47,625 Speaker 1: Not for me because I'm. 536 00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:52,625 Speaker 2: Other people, other people in the market listeners just saying 537 00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:53,545 Speaker 2: it would go really nice with. 538 00:22:53,545 --> 00:22:54,625 Speaker 1: Your out you've gone today? 539 00:22:55,745 --> 00:22:56,745 Speaker 2: It all right? 540 00:22:56,785 --> 00:22:59,065 Speaker 1: What else have you got for me? What's your boogie? Think? 541 00:22:59,265 --> 00:23:01,905 Speaker 2: My bougie is Kamila Mark because they do really really 542 00:23:01,905 --> 00:23:04,425 Speaker 2: good outwear. Trenches and jackets and coats are. 543 00:23:04,345 --> 00:23:05,505 Speaker 1: Really they're unparallel there. 544 00:23:06,225 --> 00:23:09,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're Donato coats one thousand, one hundred. 545 00:23:09,145 --> 00:23:13,785 Speaker 1: I don't think. Oh so it's a worn ye what 546 00:23:13,865 --> 00:23:14,985 Speaker 1: they're called like a teddy coat. 547 00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:17,265 Speaker 2: Well, it's very similar to the assembly label. And the 548 00:23:17,265 --> 00:23:19,305 Speaker 2: reason I like them a lot is because they're not 549 00:23:19,425 --> 00:23:22,065 Speaker 2: too dressing gown ish. You know, sometimes I had a 550 00:23:22,105 --> 00:23:22,585 Speaker 2: short collar. 551 00:23:22,665 --> 00:23:25,905 Speaker 1: I've got dressing gown fabric thingy, that's all. Yeah. 552 00:23:26,345 --> 00:23:28,545 Speaker 2: Sometimes and obviously you can put a nice structured belt on. 553 00:23:28,585 --> 00:23:30,705 Speaker 2: It looks really cool if you're going, if you're dressing 554 00:23:30,705 --> 00:23:35,385 Speaker 2: it up, etcetera, purposing. But the coat is augeous. 555 00:23:35,025 --> 00:23:38,865 Speaker 1: Because that's because we're such good people. We've got an 556 00:23:38,905 --> 00:23:41,865 Speaker 1: amazing tax return and we're treating ourselves. 557 00:23:41,905 --> 00:23:43,865 Speaker 2: And again that will be really timeless, but it's interesting 558 00:23:43,865 --> 00:23:45,705 Speaker 2: because that's not one hundred percent. Well it's woolen poly 559 00:23:47,025 --> 00:23:47,825 Speaker 2: which is interesting. 560 00:23:47,945 --> 00:23:51,065 Speaker 1: Well, it depends because some of my natural synthetic blends 561 00:23:51,145 --> 00:23:53,225 Speaker 1: were the best. All right, good, I'm glad you're boogie 562 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:56,385 Speaker 1: with bougey because my boogy is quite bousy. Okay, cool, Okay, 563 00:23:56,465 --> 00:23:58,505 Speaker 1: so we're being a good girl. This isn't me. But 564 00:23:58,585 --> 00:24:02,905 Speaker 1: someone needs to invest because we're talking about saving money 565 00:24:02,905 --> 00:24:05,065 Speaker 1: and shopping on a budget, but also we're talking about 566 00:24:05,105 --> 00:24:05,865 Speaker 1: purchasing things. 567 00:24:05,865 --> 00:24:10,225 Speaker 2: Will one beautiful thing, retire and investment. Absolutely. 568 00:24:10,585 --> 00:24:12,785 Speaker 1: I mean I could not love Oroton anymore. The last 569 00:24:12,825 --> 00:24:16,065 Speaker 1: few Yearday have just had the biggest go up. This 570 00:24:16,345 --> 00:24:18,345 Speaker 1: is already sold out but coming back. But I'm just 571 00:24:18,385 --> 00:24:20,225 Speaker 1: going to tell people about it, so it's on their radar. 572 00:24:20,905 --> 00:24:25,305 Speaker 1: It is the Mica workmanship small bowler like it's a 573 00:24:25,345 --> 00:24:28,025 Speaker 1: bowler bag, which means like, but this is the small 574 00:24:28,225 --> 00:24:30,705 Speaker 1: the mini. The mini is quite small. The bowl is 575 00:24:30,745 --> 00:24:34,825 Speaker 1: like like, that's that's your everyday handbag, bigger than a four. Yes, 576 00:24:34,905 --> 00:24:36,785 Speaker 1: you could fit your laptop. I would probably have a 577 00:24:36,825 --> 00:24:38,785 Speaker 1: separate bag from my laptop. But this is my everything, 578 00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:43,065 Speaker 1: as in like glasses, you know, bottle Yes, yeah, zip 579 00:24:43,185 --> 00:24:46,065 Speaker 1: I love something the fully zip shut because I throw 580 00:24:46,105 --> 00:24:48,825 Speaker 1: it in the car, everything falls out. I love the black. 581 00:24:49,265 --> 00:24:52,065 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and ninety nine dollars and already sold out. 582 00:24:52,065 --> 00:24:52,905 Speaker 1: So what does that tell you? 583 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:53,225 Speaker 4: Yeah? 584 00:24:53,225 --> 00:24:55,025 Speaker 1: And like we were talking before we started recording, I've 585 00:24:55,025 --> 00:24:56,945 Speaker 1: got a green Oriton bag. I bought from the Oriton 586 00:24:56,985 --> 00:24:59,625 Speaker 1: outlet online. If you're not across the Oroton outlet online, 587 00:24:59,865 --> 00:25:02,145 Speaker 1: where have you been all your life? It's online maybe 588 00:25:02,145 --> 00:25:04,745 Speaker 1: five or six years ago. And I use it a lot, Yeah, 589 00:25:04,785 --> 00:25:05,145 Speaker 1: a lot. 590 00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:07,025 Speaker 2: And that's it. You want to think about the frequency? 591 00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:08,865 Speaker 2: Am I going to wear this daily? Week? Yeah? Monthly? 592 00:25:09,145 --> 00:25:11,345 Speaker 1: And I'm that full price? I didn't so it was 593 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,945 Speaker 1: a good sale purpose yes, yes, yes, okay, Kim. So 594 00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:17,345 Speaker 1: when are you coming over? Okay, thank you so much 595 00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:28,425 Speaker 1: for coming back. Love having you pleasure. So as I promised, 596 00:25:28,465 --> 00:25:30,385 Speaker 1: the show is not over yet. I love how Kim 597 00:25:30,425 --> 00:25:33,105 Speaker 1: talked us through the process of auditing our wardrobe and 598 00:25:33,105 --> 00:25:34,465 Speaker 1: then what we're going to do with it. So she 599 00:25:34,585 --> 00:25:38,265 Speaker 1: touched on pre loved and reselling. So I've found Miya 600 00:25:38,345 --> 00:25:40,305 Speaker 1: in the studio here and we're going to talk about 601 00:25:40,345 --> 00:25:45,105 Speaker 1: reselling and also buying secondhand because it's very cool right now. 602 00:25:45,505 --> 00:25:48,625 Speaker 1: Me Friedman, Hello, Hi. I wanted to bring you onto 603 00:25:48,665 --> 00:25:50,385 Speaker 1: the show and bring you back to talk about pre 604 00:25:50,465 --> 00:25:53,105 Speaker 1: loved fashion because you noticed we talked about a year 605 00:25:53,145 --> 00:25:56,465 Speaker 1: ago about thrifting. Have you noticed the boom of pre loved? 606 00:25:56,785 --> 00:25:57,025 Speaker 2: Yes? 607 00:25:57,185 --> 00:26:00,225 Speaker 4: And it's now a flex when you ask someone. It's 608 00:26:00,265 --> 00:26:03,945 Speaker 4: so funny because back in our magazine days, it used 609 00:26:03,945 --> 00:26:06,985 Speaker 4: to be where's that from? And it used to be 610 00:26:07,025 --> 00:26:09,225 Speaker 4: a flex if it was a label, yes, And then 611 00:26:09,265 --> 00:26:11,785 Speaker 4: it was a flex if it wasn't a label but 612 00:26:11,825 --> 00:26:14,505 Speaker 4: it looked like a label. And now it's a flex 613 00:26:14,865 --> 00:26:17,865 Speaker 4: if it's drifted because we loved or second then it 614 00:26:18,025 --> 00:26:22,665 Speaker 4: says not only am I sustainable and I'm helping the planet, 615 00:26:22,945 --> 00:26:25,825 Speaker 4: but also I'm clever and I've put in the work, yes, 616 00:26:25,865 --> 00:26:28,185 Speaker 4: and I've got something maybe individual, and no one can 617 00:26:28,225 --> 00:26:28,585 Speaker 4: copy it. 618 00:26:28,625 --> 00:26:31,385 Speaker 1: And I've saved somewhere. Okay, So I've brought you across 619 00:26:31,585 --> 00:26:33,385 Speaker 1: to the well. It's not the dark sign anymore. 620 00:26:33,465 --> 00:26:36,585 Speaker 4: About six months ago, I was looking through a lot 621 00:26:36,585 --> 00:26:38,345 Speaker 4: of my clothes and I used to sell some of 622 00:26:38,385 --> 00:26:40,865 Speaker 4: my stuff. I'd go through my stuff a lot, so 623 00:26:40,985 --> 00:26:42,905 Speaker 4: I'm not sentimental about my clothes. 624 00:26:42,945 --> 00:26:44,585 Speaker 1: You do a regular clean out, I do. 625 00:26:44,705 --> 00:26:47,225 Speaker 4: And I give away a lot. I donate a lot, 626 00:26:47,305 --> 00:26:49,425 Speaker 4: and that there are some things that I would sell 627 00:26:49,505 --> 00:26:52,425 Speaker 4: in various places consignment shops. Yeah, but I sort of 628 00:26:52,465 --> 00:26:54,825 Speaker 4: stopped doing that, and I things have been banking up, 629 00:26:54,865 --> 00:26:57,505 Speaker 4: and I was looking at all of it and just going, 630 00:26:57,585 --> 00:27:01,185 Speaker 4: I really want to do something good with this stuff. 631 00:27:01,345 --> 00:27:02,585 Speaker 1: And so you give it to me. 632 00:27:03,185 --> 00:27:05,145 Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to sell it and raise money for 633 00:27:05,265 --> 00:27:07,825 Speaker 4: Rise Up. So Rise Up is the charity that we support. 634 00:27:07,825 --> 00:27:09,545 Speaker 4: I'm an ambassador for them, and they help women and 635 00:27:09,745 --> 00:27:13,025 Speaker 4: children start again after domestic violence. They set up homes 636 00:27:13,625 --> 00:27:16,745 Speaker 4: and they don't take pre loved stuff, so we support 637 00:27:16,785 --> 00:27:20,505 Speaker 4: them with money, and I wanted to find new homes 638 00:27:20,545 --> 00:27:22,905 Speaker 4: for my clothes. I don't know if you watch toy story. 639 00:27:22,905 --> 00:27:24,865 Speaker 4: I think it was the second toy story of psychol 640 00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:27,585 Speaker 4: So do you know how there was that thing about 641 00:27:27,625 --> 00:27:30,265 Speaker 4: the toys just wanted to be played with. Yes, I 642 00:27:30,265 --> 00:27:31,345 Speaker 4: feel that way about clothes. 643 00:27:32,065 --> 00:27:35,145 Speaker 1: It's so true. And I've got suitcases and suitcases of 644 00:27:35,185 --> 00:27:38,025 Speaker 1: stuff I want to sell. Yeah, but I haven't. I 645 00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:40,425 Speaker 1: can't set up a market stall. I'm too old, and 646 00:27:40,465 --> 00:27:42,625 Speaker 1: it's too early in the morning, and it's too crazy. No, 647 00:27:42,665 --> 00:27:43,025 Speaker 1: I agree. 648 00:27:43,145 --> 00:27:46,105 Speaker 4: So what I did is eBay contacted me and said, 649 00:27:46,425 --> 00:27:47,985 Speaker 4: would you like to do a store with eBay? And 650 00:27:47,985 --> 00:27:50,625 Speaker 4: I'm like, I used to do stores with Aba all 651 00:27:50,665 --> 00:27:52,905 Speaker 4: the time when I was showing all the time. I 652 00:27:53,985 --> 00:27:56,385 Speaker 4: also shop on eBay all the time, and I will 653 00:27:56,385 --> 00:27:59,385 Speaker 4: often find buy new things. A lot of people don't 654 00:27:59,585 --> 00:28:01,665 Speaker 4: know Ye, so buy new things on eBay too. So 655 00:28:01,785 --> 00:28:04,265 Speaker 4: now building this store. What's amazing now is that there's 656 00:28:04,265 --> 00:28:06,385 Speaker 4: all this technology on eBay, like AI and stuff that 657 00:28:06,425 --> 00:28:09,465 Speaker 4: helps you list items. Yes, if people haven't been on 658 00:28:09,545 --> 00:28:13,465 Speaker 4: like it is so different and so intuitive and so phenomenal, 659 00:28:13,545 --> 00:28:15,585 Speaker 4: it's a lot easier much. 660 00:28:15,865 --> 00:28:16,905 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just. 661 00:28:16,865 --> 00:28:18,065 Speaker 2: Really enjoyed the process. 662 00:28:18,105 --> 00:28:22,385 Speaker 4: I like thinking about people being able to wear these 663 00:28:22,425 --> 00:28:24,545 Speaker 4: things in their own WARDROBEUF or I've had so much 664 00:28:24,625 --> 00:28:26,865 Speaker 4: joy from them, but maybe that don't fit me anymore. 665 00:28:26,865 --> 00:28:27,985 Speaker 4: Maybe they're just not my style. 666 00:28:28,025 --> 00:28:29,505 Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to ask. How you 667 00:28:29,585 --> 00:28:32,665 Speaker 1: decide what to cull? What's your filter for it's time 668 00:28:32,745 --> 00:28:35,265 Speaker 1: to sell on eBay and give it? Yeah, it's the 669 00:28:35,305 --> 00:28:37,385 Speaker 1: toy that I'll be played with by someone else. Yeah. 670 00:28:37,425 --> 00:28:39,305 Speaker 4: So, like a lot of people, I sort of have 671 00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:41,825 Speaker 4: clothes stored all over the house in bits of others. 672 00:28:41,825 --> 00:28:44,665 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's over that normal. It's just you 673 00:28:44,705 --> 00:28:44,905 Speaker 1: and me. 674 00:28:44,985 --> 00:28:48,825 Speaker 4: Maybe you're me. And what I do is I will 675 00:28:48,825 --> 00:28:52,025 Speaker 4: give something a two year grace period because sometimes things 676 00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:55,225 Speaker 4: come back and it's like this year, I just took 677 00:28:55,265 --> 00:28:58,985 Speaker 4: out all my winter coats and winter stuff and I 678 00:28:59,065 --> 00:29:01,505 Speaker 4: tried it all on and some of it. I was like, 679 00:29:01,785 --> 00:29:04,025 Speaker 4: I'm going to give this one more year. And if 680 00:29:04,065 --> 00:29:06,665 Speaker 4: I'm a made yeah, because I didn't wear it last year, 681 00:29:06,705 --> 00:29:08,465 Speaker 4: I don't want to wear it this year. If I 682 00:29:08,585 --> 00:29:10,345 Speaker 4: get to another year and I have a warn it, 683 00:29:10,345 --> 00:29:12,665 Speaker 4: it's going And then other things you're like, oh, this 684 00:29:12,705 --> 00:29:15,145 Speaker 4: feels right for now, Yes, you know that feeling. 685 00:29:15,265 --> 00:29:17,505 Speaker 1: And then if it's like no, I'm not waiting, then 686 00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,585 Speaker 1: it's in the eBay pile. Oh my god, I'm going 687 00:29:19,625 --> 00:29:21,705 Speaker 1: to go on eBay and shop your things. Is that weird? 688 00:29:21,705 --> 00:29:23,625 Speaker 1: If I buy your things and then we sit next 689 00:29:23,665 --> 00:29:24,105 Speaker 1: to each other. 690 00:29:24,305 --> 00:29:26,865 Speaker 4: I have already bought one of my friends because as 691 00:29:26,945 --> 00:29:31,105 Speaker 4: we were laying it all out to photograph, I'd put 692 00:29:31,145 --> 00:29:33,105 Speaker 4: all these things aside and I'd washed them and made 693 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,905 Speaker 4: sure that they were in good condition. And this was 694 00:29:34,905 --> 00:29:36,905 Speaker 4: about two months ago. And then we were photographing them 695 00:29:36,945 --> 00:29:38,345 Speaker 4: all to put up, and so I was making some 696 00:29:38,385 --> 00:29:39,865 Speaker 4: content and I put them all down and there were 697 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:44,345 Speaker 4: these pair of fluorescent pink essential Antwerp trainers. Oh great, 698 00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:47,145 Speaker 4: I mean there was like, yes, chunky, and I'm like, 699 00:29:47,185 --> 00:29:48,345 Speaker 4: why am I getting rid of those? 700 00:29:48,705 --> 00:29:50,185 Speaker 1: I need to take them back? And then I felt bad. 701 00:29:50,185 --> 00:29:52,465 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not taking money from So I bought 702 00:29:52,465 --> 00:29:54,545 Speaker 4: them for like one hundred dollars myself. 703 00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:56,145 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. So they ended up 704 00:29:56,145 --> 00:29:58,705 Speaker 1: being evalent and that's much more efficient. The eBay thing 705 00:29:58,785 --> 00:30:01,385 Speaker 1: is I have the bags in my boot for months 706 00:30:02,025 --> 00:30:04,265 Speaker 1: and then the whole season will change. Like I had 707 00:30:04,545 --> 00:30:06,505 Speaker 1: a bunch of winter stuff. This is how bad I 708 00:30:06,545 --> 00:30:09,425 Speaker 1: am that. Then it got cold again and I was 709 00:30:09,425 --> 00:30:11,425 Speaker 1: like freezing. I was at some soccer game or something 710 00:30:11,425 --> 00:30:12,945 Speaker 1: who went to the back of my car opened the 711 00:30:12,985 --> 00:30:14,465 Speaker 1: bags and I was like, oh, I quite like that 712 00:30:14,705 --> 00:30:16,665 Speaker 1: because it'd been there for a year. But had I 713 00:30:16,705 --> 00:30:18,545 Speaker 1: got my act together they listed it on eBay, someone 714 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:20,305 Speaker 1: would have been wearing it for that year rather than yeah, 715 00:30:20,425 --> 00:30:21,185 Speaker 1: stinky boot. 716 00:30:21,305 --> 00:30:21,505 Speaker 3: Yeah. 717 00:30:21,505 --> 00:30:24,945 Speaker 4: And you can feel a little bit claustrophobic, like when you. 718 00:30:25,105 --> 00:30:27,225 Speaker 1: Know, I feel like I'm drowning, and so I don't 719 00:30:27,265 --> 00:30:29,385 Speaker 1: know what to wear because there's too much to think about. 720 00:30:29,745 --> 00:30:33,825 Speaker 4: So there's always someone who's going to want what you 721 00:30:34,065 --> 00:30:37,425 Speaker 4: don't want anymore. So it's like freeing its future to 722 00:30:37,505 --> 00:30:39,465 Speaker 4: find a new home, and it's a different. 723 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,265 Speaker 1: Kind of joy. Like I love walking into Westfield and 724 00:30:41,265 --> 00:30:43,425 Speaker 1: buying something for a mass chain store. Of course I do. 725 00:30:43,505 --> 00:30:45,905 Speaker 1: But when it's oh it's the hunt, it's the hunt, 726 00:30:45,945 --> 00:30:48,305 Speaker 1: and then it's just sometimes the human interaction. Yeah. I 727 00:30:48,345 --> 00:30:50,065 Speaker 1: got a cardigan the other day that I brought an eBay. 728 00:30:50,145 --> 00:30:51,385 Speaker 1: I wrote to her and I said, hey, I love 729 00:30:51,425 --> 00:30:55,185 Speaker 1: it so much, I'm so glad. I was like, yes, yeah, 730 00:30:55,225 --> 00:30:57,785 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a village transaction back in 731 00:30:57,825 --> 00:31:00,665 Speaker 1: the day, but these two happy women. I bought it. 732 00:31:00,745 --> 00:31:03,705 Speaker 1: She sold it and the Cardigan's living its best life. Yeah, 733 00:31:03,745 --> 00:31:07,305 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, love you, Thank you so much 734 00:31:07,305 --> 00:31:09,305 Speaker 1: for listening to Nothing to Wear Now. Don't forget. There's 735 00:31:09,305 --> 00:31:11,265 Speaker 1: a news letter that goes with this show, so there's 736 00:31:11,265 --> 00:31:12,985 Speaker 1: a link in the show notes to sign up. That's 737 00:31:13,025 --> 00:31:15,825 Speaker 1: where you'll see links to all the products we talk about, images, 738 00:31:16,305 --> 00:31:18,865 Speaker 1: some great extra info. You can also watch us on 739 00:31:18,905 --> 00:31:20,945 Speaker 1: YouTube if you're not watching me right now, but this 740 00:31:21,185 --> 00:31:25,265 Speaker 1: whole podcast is also visual, so watch us there, find 741 00:31:25,345 --> 00:31:27,505 Speaker 1: us on Instagram. There's links in the show notes everything, 742 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:30,225 Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week. 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