WEBVTT - Into The Jungle We Go 0:00:10.265 --> 0:00:13.425 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 0:00:13.945 --> 0:00:17.465 Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.505 --> 0:00:25.465 that this podcast is recorded on. Hello to all our 0:00:25.505 --> 0:00:27.905 little builders and their grown ups. Welcome to How to 0:00:27.945 --> 0:00:31.385 Build a Universe where stories build worlds. I'm Jen you 0:00:31.465 --> 0:00:34.025 are parent educator, author mum to four and my co 0:00:34.105 --> 0:00:35.465 host is me Yep. 0:00:35.505 --> 0:00:35.985 Hello. 0:00:36.065 --> 0:00:40.065 I'm Tom Lyon, executive chief of fun at Mamma Mia And. 0:00:40.025 --> 0:00:44.025 What hi are you? Okay? Tom? 0:00:44.065 --> 0:00:47.385 Sorry? Everyone, I just slipped on a squishy banana and 0:00:47.865 --> 0:00:52.265 still a little bit wobbly. These jungle bananas are way 0:00:52.265 --> 0:00:54.185 more slippery than I expect. 0:00:54.225 --> 0:00:57.225 Well, you'll never believe where I've been. 0:00:57.305 --> 0:00:59.745 I've just got back from the jungle where I saw 0:00:59.745 --> 0:01:02.865 what monkeys are calling the Great Banana Bungle of twenty 0:01:02.905 --> 0:01:03.705 twenty five. 0:01:03.625 --> 0:01:06.545 The Great Banana Bungle. Why do I have a feeling 0:01:06.585 --> 0:01:08.665 this is going to be your most slippery story? 0:01:08.785 --> 0:01:09.545 Yes, invitable. 0:01:10.745 --> 0:01:13.145 You know what can also feel like a jungle sometimes, Tom, 0:01:13.505 --> 0:01:17.225 sibling rivalry. We all want kids that get along, but 0:01:17.305 --> 0:01:20.745 sibling rivalry is a reality for most parents. How can 0:01:20.745 --> 0:01:22.945 we encourage kids to play in a way that's fair 0:01:23.145 --> 0:01:25.545 and doesn't keep us in the middle? Did you know, 0:01:25.585 --> 0:01:29.105 the average siblings fight around eight times an hour, and 0:01:29.145 --> 0:01:31.465 the peak of fighting is between the ages of three 0:01:31.505 --> 0:01:33.985 and eight. So if you are in this, trust me, 0:01:34.185 --> 0:01:38.145 it is so normal. Today's tip is about incorporating multiple kids, 0:01:38.225 --> 0:01:41.225 often at different ages and stages, into the play. The 0:01:41.305 --> 0:01:43.825 idea is we can try to remain really neutral and 0:01:43.865 --> 0:01:46.545 try to think of ourselves as a commentator as our 0:01:46.625 --> 0:01:49.945 kids interact. With today's jungle theme. Just say both kids 0:01:50.025 --> 0:01:52.105 want to play with the monkey. We can say, hmm, 0:01:52.385 --> 0:01:54.985 I can see two kids who both really want the monkey. 0:01:55.305 --> 0:01:56.505 This is tricky. 0:01:56.705 --> 0:01:58.345 I wonder how we can work it out so that 0:01:58.385 --> 0:02:00.905 it's fair. When one child is sitting a little too 0:02:01.025 --> 0:02:03.665 close to another and we notice that isn't working for all, 0:02:03.745 --> 0:02:05.745 we might also narrate I can see you want to 0:02:05.745 --> 0:02:07.745 sit close to your sister, but I'm looking at her 0:02:07.785 --> 0:02:09.625 face and I'm wondering if she needs a little spar 0:02:09.865 --> 0:02:13.665 for this game. Also remembering that kids sometimes need our 0:02:13.745 --> 0:02:16.745 help when things get too much. When kids are snatching, hitting, 0:02:16.785 --> 0:02:18.665 or hurting, we need to step in and stop them 0:02:18.705 --> 0:02:20.065 to keep everybody safe. 0:02:20.185 --> 0:02:23.665 Yes, safety first, for sure, Jen, Now are you ready 0:02:23.665 --> 0:02:26.105 for an absolutely wild adventure? 0:02:26.225 --> 0:02:26.785 I'm ready. 0:02:26.985 --> 0:02:29.265 Everyone grab your binoculars, put on. 0:02:29.225 --> 0:02:32.745 Your explorer hats, and maybe watch out for those stray 0:02:32.785 --> 0:02:38.265 banana pills, because after this, we're heading into the most mysterious, magnificent, 0:02:38.345 --> 0:02:40.625 mouth watering journey you've ever been on. 0:02:40.985 --> 0:02:41.465 Let's go. 0:02:45.945 --> 0:02:55.465 Oh sorry, my little adventurer, I've been sleeping with wolves 0:02:55.625 --> 0:02:56.745 for the last week. 0:02:56.585 --> 0:02:58.785 And I'm feeling a bit strange. 0:02:59.385 --> 0:03:04.745 Anyhow, hello there, Today we're heading into the wild, wonderful jungle. 0:03:05.465 --> 0:03:09.545 Do you know what a jungle is? A jungle is like. 0:03:09.745 --> 0:03:13.505 A big, big forest full of trees, but a little 0:03:13.505 --> 0:03:18.625 bit more tropical. Now, I want you to imagine all 0:03:18.665 --> 0:03:22.745 sorts of wild plants and undergrowth that has a life 0:03:22.745 --> 0:03:26.745 of its own, with vines hanging from the trees. And 0:03:26.785 --> 0:03:31.265 there's also a waterfall nearby, with rushing fresh water flowing 0:03:31.305 --> 0:03:39.025 down the cliff like a river tumbling downstairs made of rock. Now, 0:03:39.305 --> 0:03:44.185 this rainforest or jungle is also home to all sorts 0:03:44.185 --> 0:03:53.945 of animals, tigers, monkeys, and snakes. So to get ready, 0:03:54.265 --> 0:03:55.865 you know what we like to do. We're going to 0:03:55.945 --> 0:03:57.185 take a deep breath in. 0:04:01.305 --> 0:04:07.425 And out. Let's listen to the sounds around us. 0:04:08.345 --> 0:04:09.185 What can you hear? 0:04:11.425 --> 0:04:12.665 Maybe some birds there? 0:04:12.785 --> 0:04:21.545 Yeah, that one sounds like a gorilla, maybe a jaguar. 0:04:22.825 --> 0:04:24.865 Some great kisses. They're well done. 0:04:25.305 --> 0:04:30.145 Now let's take two big steps through these giant green leaves. 0:04:30.225 --> 0:04:37.625 I'll COUNTERSI ready, big step number one and step two. 0:04:38.225 --> 0:04:42.705 Now we are really inside the jungle. Do you hear 0:04:42.745 --> 0:04:45.345 that rainstick? Today? 0:04:45.545 --> 0:04:48.505 You'll need your own rain stick for good luck. You 0:04:48.505 --> 0:04:50.505 can use anything. Is there a toy you like to 0:04:50.545 --> 0:04:54.985 carry around? Although I've just put five Lego duplo blocks 0:04:55.025 --> 0:04:58.385 together to make my rain stick for anything will work. 0:05:01.425 --> 0:05:06.105 The jungle floor is a thick blanket of leaves and dirt. 0:05:06.865 --> 0:05:08.985 You know what dirt feels like under your feet? 0:05:09.745 --> 0:05:10.305 I hope you do. 0:05:11.545 --> 0:05:14.225 I mean it's kind of like sand, but a bit 0:05:14.545 --> 0:05:20.345 softer and thicker. Today we're searching for something very magical. 0:05:20.865 --> 0:05:26.505 It's called the banana bonanza tree. Now what's so magical 0:05:26.545 --> 0:05:30.265 about it? Well, for starters, the bananas. 0:05:29.585 --> 0:05:32.425 Are all sorts of colors. You won't see that in 0:05:32.425 --> 0:05:33.865 your local supermarket. 0:05:35.065 --> 0:05:38.785 Legend has it, this tree can grow bananas of any 0:05:38.825 --> 0:05:40.865 flavor you can imagine. 0:05:41.265 --> 0:05:41.945 Think about that. 0:05:42.785 --> 0:05:46.745 You could eat a chocolate banana, an ice cream flavored banana. 0:05:46.945 --> 0:05:49.545 Oh yeah, I know, I choose that. 0:05:49.505 --> 0:05:52.105 One late at night when I'm not supposed to, or 0:05:52.145 --> 0:05:53.745 even a strawberry banana. 0:05:54.265 --> 0:05:55.825 Let's take another step. 0:05:55.505 --> 0:05:58.225 Forward, because I think we're getting very close to the 0:05:58.225 --> 0:06:01.065 banana tree, but it's on the other side of that 0:06:01.225 --> 0:06:03.145 river flowing right in front of us. 0:06:03.585 --> 0:06:04.265 Take a listen. 0:06:07.025 --> 0:06:10.705 So first we need to swing across the water with something, 0:06:10.745 --> 0:06:13.025 because that vine up above is a little bit short 0:06:13.065 --> 0:06:16.145 to get across the water. Can you think of something 0:06:16.185 --> 0:06:20.705 we can hold on to to swing across the river? Hmmm? 0:06:21.105 --> 0:06:25.265 Anything around the house like a doggy lead? Are you 0:06:25.345 --> 0:06:30.785 holding onto that toy from before Mum's morning rope to 0:06:30.865 --> 0:06:33.545 swing across this river to get us to the magical 0:06:33.585 --> 0:06:36.345 banana bonanza tree. 0:06:37.185 --> 0:06:42.025 Great, those ideas are very appealing. See what I did there. 0:06:42.625 --> 0:06:45.545 Now let's get across the river on three. We're making 0:06:45.585 --> 0:06:51.305 a big swing over one, two three across wig. 0:06:56.705 --> 0:06:57.065 Ouch. 0:06:58.785 --> 0:07:01.825 Oh wow, look. 0:07:01.585 --> 0:07:06.105 At what we've found, the magical flavor banana tree. And 0:07:06.145 --> 0:07:12.345 it's enormous branches stretching up towards the sky with bananas 0:07:12.345 --> 0:07:16.385 of every color. And I'm in every red one's, purple ones, 0:07:16.385 --> 0:07:21.105 blue ones, gray, gray ones. Oh, might stay clear of those, 0:07:21.705 --> 0:07:23.665 even rainbow striped ones. 0:07:26.065 --> 0:07:31.385 Oh, someone else is here? Do you hear that? Oh wow, 0:07:31.625 --> 0:07:33.105 look at all these bananas. 0:07:33.345 --> 0:07:35.225 I've never seen anything like it. 0:07:36.265 --> 0:07:39.545 Well that's Sammy, everyone, She's a jungle monkey who loves 0:07:39.585 --> 0:07:42.865 adventures almost as much as she loves bananas. 0:07:43.145 --> 0:07:44.345 These are all mine. 0:07:44.785 --> 0:07:49.945 I'm gonna have every single flavor all to myself. Oh dear, 0:07:50.505 --> 0:07:53.945 Sammy's jumping from branch to branch, grabbing as many colorful 0:07:53.945 --> 0:07:56.745 bananas as she can hold. But I can see other 0:07:56.785 --> 0:08:02.505 animals are arriving too, a family of elephants, a slow 0:08:02.945 --> 0:08:07.465 moving slaw, and a toucan called Tito. 0:08:07.865 --> 0:08:09.825 But for my beg banana for my bee. 0:08:10.225 --> 0:08:12.105 He's talking to canto. 0:08:12.305 --> 0:08:15.265 Grassy as a grassy as is Spanish, or thank you. 0:08:16.825 --> 0:08:21.505 That elephant cup wants a blue one. Sammy naha finds keepers. 0:08:21.785 --> 0:08:26.665 I'm gonna taste every flavor all to myself. Oh golly, 0:08:27.185 --> 0:08:29.865 Sammy's climbing up higher and higher, trying to grab every 0:08:29.905 --> 0:08:34.265 single banana before anyone else can. Ah. She's stuffing bananas everywhere. 0:08:34.825 --> 0:08:38.345 Her cheeks look like beechballs. He's even balancing them on 0:08:38.385 --> 0:08:39.265 a tail. 0:08:39.745 --> 0:08:40.265 How can you? 0:08:40.905 --> 0:08:41.425 Oh? 0:08:42.625 --> 0:08:46.705 Oh no, I think the tree is starting to sway. 0:08:47.505 --> 0:08:54.625 Everyone step back. Oh now, the great banana bungle is happening. 0:08:55.105 --> 0:08:57.385 The tree has tilted right over the river. 0:08:57.825 --> 0:09:00.105 All the magical bananas are falling into the water and 0:09:00.185 --> 0:09:03.505 floating down stream towards a big waterfoot. 0:09:04.345 --> 0:09:06.185 My bananas, they're getting warmed. 0:09:07.545 --> 0:09:10.825 Geez, Sammy, feels like you played a role in this. 0:09:11.385 --> 0:09:13.785 If they go over the edge, we'll lose those yummy, 0:09:13.825 --> 0:09:18.545 magical bananas forever and we can't have that. 0:09:18.545 --> 0:09:20.665 That is Spanish for do you need help? Ah? 0:09:20.785 --> 0:09:24.345 Yes, thank you Tito. Will you help too, my little explorer? 0:09:25.305 --> 0:09:29.105 Quickly, everyone, look at those giant banana leaves still attached 0:09:29.105 --> 0:09:32.425 to the tree. I think we can use them to float. 0:09:33.225 --> 0:09:36.985 Let's reach out and pull some down. Carefully, reach your 0:09:37.025 --> 0:09:39.865 hand up like you're grabbing a big banana leaf. 0:09:40.345 --> 0:09:42.625 That's it. Grab a few big leaves. 0:09:43.825 --> 0:09:47.505 Perfect, These giant leaves are strong enough for us to 0:09:47.545 --> 0:09:50.945 float on on the river. Let's make some banana leaf 0:09:50.985 --> 0:09:52.865 boats to rescue those magical bananas. 0:09:53.505 --> 0:09:55.465 Lay it out like we're going to go surfing on it. 0:09:56.505 --> 0:10:00.785 Perfect. But wait, we need to work together on this one. 0:10:01.065 --> 0:10:04.945 Nah, I don't need help. I'll get my bananas myself. 0:10:05.145 --> 0:10:08.065 Samy's keen to get them back, but the river's current 0:10:08.185 --> 0:10:10.465 is far too strong for I heard a manage on 0:10:10.505 --> 0:10:14.465 her own. Oh and there we go. Sammy's grabbed a 0:10:14.465 --> 0:10:18.345 big leaf and jumped onto the river. Oh my, she's 0:10:18.385 --> 0:10:22.425 surfing that leaf downstream. She's spinning round and around. There's 0:10:22.425 --> 0:10:25.225 no way she's going to steer that leaf by herself. 0:10:26.585 --> 0:10:30.185 Let's show Sammy our teamwork makes things easier. We're gonna 0:10:30.225 --> 0:10:33.265 sit on this leaf and paddle it like a rowboat. 0:10:33.985 --> 0:10:36.945 Can you pretend to paddle with me? Just reach your 0:10:36.945 --> 0:10:39.505 hands out and then pull them back to your chest 0:10:40.025 --> 0:10:43.545 like we're rowing a boat. Now, let's hop on that river. 0:10:44.745 --> 0:10:48.865 Let's count our strokes together to stay in rhythm. One two, 0:10:49.465 --> 0:10:50.705 one two. 0:10:51.385 --> 0:10:56.505 Look the elephant family is working together, the little ones 0:10:56.545 --> 0:10:58.825 in the middle, and the guanops paddling. 0:10:58.505 --> 0:11:02.065 On either side, and the two cans lying above calling 0:11:02.065 --> 0:11:02.905 out directions. 0:11:03.945 --> 0:11:10.625 Yes, now that's pretty good teamwork. We're getting into the waterfall, 0:11:10.745 --> 0:11:11.265 but it's. 0:11:11.145 --> 0:11:13.865 A big drop. Time to paddle faster. 0:11:13.985 --> 0:11:17.225 Can you help really put those strong arms into it. 0:11:17.785 --> 0:11:21.625 One two, we're almost caught up to Sammy. She's still 0:11:21.665 --> 0:11:24.505 spinning around on her leaf. She can't get any of 0:11:24.505 --> 0:11:27.225 herbanots ha ha. 0:11:27.705 --> 0:11:30.585 Hell my arm's a dede dimy I can't do this 0:11:30.705 --> 0:11:31.705 by myself. 0:11:33.265 --> 0:11:36.305 Oh, the elephants reaching a trunk out to pull Sammy 0:11:36.345 --> 0:11:37.145 close to us. 0:11:37.265 --> 0:11:40.425 Come on, Sammy and teetoe. The two cans helping out. 0:11:40.265 --> 0:11:44.745 Too climb aboard when one can't, two can has a 0:11:44.745 --> 0:11:45.505 two can job. 0:11:45.905 --> 0:11:50.385 Oh, Sammy's jumping on board. Haha. Now Sammy, we can 0:11:50.425 --> 0:11:55.705 work as a team. All that waterfalls getting close row 0:11:55.905 --> 0:11:58.865 road down the stream. We make a perfect paddling team. 0:11:59.025 --> 0:12:00.545 Teamwork makes that dream work. 0:12:00.785 --> 0:12:06.345 We paddle fast, we paddle strong. This is our team 0:12:06.465 --> 0:12:07.345 banana song. 0:12:08.425 --> 0:12:11.145 Good enough, We did it. 0:12:11.905 --> 0:12:15.305 We rescued all the magical bananas and steered away from 0:12:15.305 --> 0:12:16.865 the waterfall just in time. 0:12:18.225 --> 0:12:19.225 It's wonderful jomp. 0:12:19.265 --> 0:12:23.305 Everyone, look at our collection of colorful, magical bananas. 0:12:23.825 --> 0:12:26.945 Red ones, it might taste like strawberries. Hmmm. 0:12:27.425 --> 0:12:34.545 The blue ones taste like blueberry ice cream. 0:12:34.665 --> 0:12:35.345 I'm sorry. 0:12:35.425 --> 0:12:37.585 I tried to keep all the bananas for myself. 0:12:37.785 --> 0:12:40.305 I was so excited by the yumminess of it all 0:12:40.425 --> 0:12:41.705 I forgot about sharing. 0:12:41.865 --> 0:12:45.385 It's okay, Sammy, we all feel like that sometimes. You 0:12:45.465 --> 0:12:49.065 know what, I think all these bananas will taste even 0:12:49.105 --> 0:12:51.625 better if we try them all together. 0:12:53.505 --> 0:12:56.465 Nice one, Sammy, Well that was quite an adventure, wasn't it. 0:12:56.865 --> 0:12:59.785 I'm just looking over at all our animal friends there 0:12:59.825 --> 0:13:04.145 are sitting around in a circle sharing the magical flavored bananas. 0:13:04.265 --> 0:13:06.145 You, bigie, looks like a banana. 0:13:06.585 --> 0:13:19.625 Yes, Jen, I've actually brought back some delicious banana cake 0:13:19.705 --> 0:13:20.345 for you to try. 0:13:20.385 --> 0:13:22.305 I'm hoping you'll like it. Will you have some? I 0:13:22.305 --> 0:13:25.185 would love some. It tastes beautiful. 0:13:25.825 --> 0:13:27.985 I was tempted to keep the whole cake to myself, 0:13:28.385 --> 0:13:31.025 just like how Sammy and this story wanted to keep 0:13:31.065 --> 0:13:33.865 all the bananas to herself. But then I thought, you 0:13:33.905 --> 0:13:37.225 know what, some things are actually more fun when we 0:13:37.305 --> 0:13:40.145 share them together. So want to help me make this 0:13:40.265 --> 0:13:41.025 cake disappear? 0:13:41.185 --> 0:13:42.065 Oh yum? 0:13:42.105 --> 0:13:45.185 Now that's what I call jungle justice. Play when done 0:13:45.225 --> 0:13:47.305 with siblings, can be a bit more of a jungle 0:13:47.345 --> 0:13:49.785 in terms of managing things, but a beautiful way to 0:13:49.825 --> 0:13:53.465 create shared experiences, foster that sibling bond, and teach kids 0:13:53.465 --> 0:13:55.825 the skills they need for the world, like conflict and 0:13:55.865 --> 0:13:59.865 negotiation skills. It makes sense for group play to be chaotic, 0:13:59.905 --> 0:14:01.825 and you are not getting it wrong. If things have 0:14:01.905 --> 0:14:05.065 the odd bump, your little monkeys will one day get 0:14:05.065 --> 0:14:07.305 along with ease. I promise you. 0:14:07.705 --> 0:14:11.145 Time to say bye bye to our banana, because next 0:14:11.185 --> 0:14:15.425 week we're blusting off into a world where superheroes fly 0:14:15.665 --> 0:14:16.705 and save the day. 0:14:16.985 --> 0:14:18.545 Better start practicing. 0:14:18.025 --> 0:14:22.425 Your superhero poses because we're heading to a world where 0:14:22.545 --> 0:14:27.265 ordinary kids discover they have extraordinary superpowers. 0:14:27.465 --> 0:14:30.825 Going to work on my superhero poses right now. Until then, 0:14:30.985 --> 0:14:33.705 remember us stories build universes. 0:14:33.385 --> 0:14:37.145 And your imagination is always ready for an adventure. See 0:14:37.185 --> 0:14:38.745 you next time. Builders by. 0:14:42.465 --> 0:14:45.225 The executive producer of How to Build a Universe is 0:14:45.305 --> 0:14:50.345 Courtney Amenhauser. Sammy was voiced by Tarlie Blackman and Tito 0:14:50.425 --> 0:14:54.425 the Tucan was by Tiana and Isaac's Daddy, with story 0:14:54.505 --> 0:14:58.705 writing and sound designed by me Tom Lyon. Thanks for 0:14:58.745 --> 0:15:01.425 listening to today's episode of How to Build a Universe. 0:15:01.465 --> 0:15:03.705 We'd love to know what you thought of it. 0:15:04.065 --> 0:15:06.065 You can fill out our survey and go in the 0:15:06.145 --> 0:15:08.105 running to win one thousand dollars. 0:15:08.265 --> 0:15:09.505 There's a link in the show notes.