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Speaker 3: Welcome to the C's the Ya Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 3: Sarah Davidson or spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned funentrepreneur

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Lovely Neighborhood. I hope you enjoyed our little

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Speaker 3: cotton On Foundation. That so many of you could have

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Speaker 3: Tim has absolutely found his purpose and see his own

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Speaker 1: a tin roof that had holes in that the water's

440
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 1: coming through the ground was dirt and it was turning

441
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Speaker 1: to mud, and I was just blown away that this

442
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: was school in Uganda. And so I sat down next

443
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Speaker 1: to some of these kids. Most of them didn't have

444
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: shoes on, some of them didn't have t shirts or

445
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: ripped clothes. They had their little pages with sort of

446
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: broken pencils, and their pages were even getting wet, but

447
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: they were still scribbling away, and beautiful brown eyes looking

448
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: up for this amazing Ugandan woman who was teaching them,

449
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: and they just they were so focused on every word

450
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Speaker 1: that you were saying, and it was, you know, a

451
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: moment that's kind of sense shivers down my mind to

452
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: just still remember sitting there amongst those kids, and it

453
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: was eye opening, but it was.

454
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful moment as well.

455
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 1: And I sat there for about half the day watching

456
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: him interact for an English class and a maths class.

457
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: And I was lucky enough that after that a nurse

458
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: from the medical center come and met me, and I

459
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to go to one of the kids'

460
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: homes and this little fellow, Paul, his name was. We

461
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: walked about three kilometers a little bit more than that

462
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: down the road to another mud brick cup his home,

463
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: and he was so excited to show this massongu around,

464
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: this white person around, and we walked around his house.

465
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: He showed me inside his little thatched mat that he

466
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: slept on, and the house was a macket, was beautifully kept.

467
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 1: We walked outside the little outdoor kitchen and a little

468
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: rabbit hutch where he kept his three rabbits. Who's so

469
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: proud of I heard these little voices come out of

470
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: the banana shumba behind Paul, and it was this little

471
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: little boy and little girl run out and they were

472
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Speaker 1: about five and six years old, just laughing, holding my hand,

473
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: and we're walking around this beautiful family of three little kids.

474
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Speaker 1: Paul was about ten years old at the time, and

475
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I was just blown away. I just said, mate, thank you,

476
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I got down. I remember,

477
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: I got down my knees and I said, can I

478
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: say thank you to your mother and father? And he

479
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: said he never knew his father, and about twelve months

480
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: before that his mother had passed away from HIV eights.

481
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, it dawned me straight away. This beautiful young

482
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Speaker 1: boy ten years old, He keeps his house in absolutely

483
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: immaculate condition. He looks after his little brother and sister

484
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: five and six years old, and then has the courage

485
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: and the resilience to walk three kilometers in the rain,

486
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: to sit down in a school that is falling down

487
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: around him, to learn to try and better his life.

488
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, to this day, I've never met

489
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: a more inspiring person. It's something that stands with me

490
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: that I still feel the same emotion is when I

491
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: was standing on my knees and him telling me that

492
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: he's lost his mother and father. It's something that has

493
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: driven me every single day since since that day. You

494
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: know that time that I spent after meeting Paul, I

495
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: kind of spent the rest of the day with him

496
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: and he showed me his routine and what he did.

497
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: And again, I just can't speak highly enough with the

498
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: strength of this young, young boy, but I realized it's

499
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: really common. It was a really common scenario across Uganda.

500
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, half the country aged between zero and sixteen.

501
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: Half the country of children, so the population is one

502
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: that is so young. And whilst that's a devastating stat

503
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: it's also somewhat encouraging to know if we can educate

504
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: and give these kids an opportunity, they can change the

505
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: tide of poverty very quickly.

506
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: So we know from that day we got to work.

507
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: We knew the UN Development Goals and the Millennium Development

508
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: Goals at the time, what the focus was there. We

509
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 1: knew that we had to really narrow, to be very

510
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: simple in our approach, and so we came up with

511
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: what we called the four pillars. It was healthcare, infrastructure,

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: education and sustainability, and we talked to everyone. We kind

513
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: of whiteboarded all of the opportunities under those four areas

514
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: and we prioritize them, and we just got to work.

515
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: We started with a brand new school building, a brand

516
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: new nurses quarters for the health center, some new equipment

517
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: for the health center, food security, and agricultural projects. We

518
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: dug a borehole for clean water, and that took up

519
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: all of the money we raised in that first year,

520
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: About one hundred and twenty thousand dollars was gone.

521
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: It was gone pretty quickly. That was the start. That's

522
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: where we kicked things off, and kind of having looked back,

523
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: it's been head down, bum up, keep working hard to

524
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: give more opportunity and more kids across not only Aganda

525
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: but globally.

526
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Speaker 3: Now, oh my gosh, Tim, that is just absolutely incredible.

527
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: There's so much to pull out of that. I mean, firstly,

528
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: I loved just what a yes person you were in

529
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 3: those early days before you actually even really knew what

530
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: you were signing up to, which I think it's just,

531
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, people taking a leap of faith and an

532
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: opportunity and potential like that are the people who then

533
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: get into situations where they can create things like the

534
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: Foundation and have the incredible impact that you've had. We

535
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: spent about a month in Rwanda. A couple of years

536
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: ago and I found the exact same thing. There's just

537
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: something so magical. It's so hard to explain about Africa,

538
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: but I understand why so many people I know who

539
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: have spent time there they just can't stop going back.

540
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: There's just something about it that really draws you in.

541
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: So I think it's almost that you expect to have

542
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: this intense sense of gratitude for what you have back here,

543
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: but then actually learning a lot more from the children

544
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: about resilience and happiness and stillness and joy than you expect.

545
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of a reverse revelation.

546
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: And it's absolutely that I think that I've drawn so

547
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: much more out than it's a cliche but what I

548
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: can give. But I think it is so important to

549
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: understand that, you know, in a world that we live

550
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: in the Western world, how much concay and more and

551
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: search for more there is versus a real contentment and

552
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: love for what you have in not going to say Africa,

553
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: but definitely from my experience in Uganda. But yeah, it's

554
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: something that I continue to learn every time I go there.

555
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: The stories, the connection, the experiences is something that just

556
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: continues to educate me in more ways than overthought.

557
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: Possible and something else. You said that you just had

558
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: to start, and you just started with four pillars and

559
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: really went to the fundamentals of what you wanted to achieve.

560
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: I think that's really important too, because, particularly in philanthropy,

561
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: but also in anything, I think we get really bogged

562
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: down by the enormity of things and often think, well,

563
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: if I can't fix poverty, I'm not going to do

564
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: anything at all, because you know, if I can't call

565
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: on a plane and bring in millions of dollars of

566
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: aid and fix the whole village, like I might as

567
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: well not do anything. But if all of us did

568
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: think that way, no one would ever get anything done.

569
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: So I love that reminder of just start where you

570
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 3: can with what you have. Then, you know, if you

571
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: can't do big things, do small things in a big

572
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: way until you can do them bigger and bigger and bigger,

573
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: which obviously you guys have since been able to do.

574
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: So tell us about that growth journey. I mean, the

575
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: Foundation has gone on to achieve incredible heights from that

576
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: first one hundred and twenty thousand or you know, whatever

577
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: it was in the beginning. What have been your big milestones?

578
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's also the uniqueness of the foundation.

579
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, when you think a foundation, you probably typically

580
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: typically think that there's a check being cut to another

581
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: charity organization. But we registered ourselves as an Aussy charity

582
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: and also a registered NDO and Uganda and essentially built

583
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: it from the ground up. And it was all through

584
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: real connection with the community and really listening to.

585
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: What is it that they need.

586
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: They know best on what they need and what kind

587
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: of support and help they need, and we did that

588
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: from day one. Now, it wasn't perfect, and it took

589
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: a long time to get it to a point that

590
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: it is today. But we failed me times, we failed

591
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: together and we learned along the journey together. And I

592
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: think that was the most important thing on reflection, is

593
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: that we're all on the same journey and there is

594
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: a real there is a real hand in hand piece

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: to this that makes it really unique. And those lessons

596
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: then we're taking to different parts of Uganda and eventually

597
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: to different projects across the globe, and I think that

598
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: is the most powerful thing. We were able to take

599
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: those learnings, adapt and create something even more special.

600
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: So we went from you know that first one hundred

601
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: and twenty thousand dollars raise.

602
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: We sold some charity bags in maybe you know, a

603
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: couple of hundred stores in Australia. And as we started

604
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: to come back and tell the story to our team

605
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: and our customer, you know, people wanted to know more,

606
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: how can they support, how can they contribute? And before long,

607
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, after a few years were we introduced more products.

608
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: There was there was water, we introduced wristbands. You know,

609
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: we were raising up around sort of three million dollars

610
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: within sort of three or four years per year. So

611
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: we're moving into our fifth and sixth village and contributing

612
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: to developing better schools and developing starting to really focus

613
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: on developing teachers to offer better education and then all

614
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: of the surrounds to make sure that these kids had

615
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: the best opportunity they had as soon as that step

616
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: step foot into that classroom. So that growth came naturally,

617
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: and I think luckily with the growth of the business,

618
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: it went from just being in Australia being a global company,

619
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, twenty nine countries, fifteen hundred doors, twenty five

620
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: thousand people, and our ability fundraise grew along with that

621
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: as well. And you know, I remember back in I

622
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: guess it was twenty thirteen we made the commitment and

623
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: again you know we're probably were raising around that three

624
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: million dollar mark. We said, okay, if we can raise

625
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: forty million dollars by twenty twenty, we will develop twenty

626
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: thousand educational places that mission. When we released that, that

627
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: just set a light, this this new energy, and everyone

628
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: really got behind it in a bigger and better way.

629
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: And again it kind of held ourselves accountable as well.

630
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: It's like, we're going to go after this, and I

631
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of fast forward to today and we've got you know,

632
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: now at an organization that is probably this financial you're

633
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: going to raise twenty five million. We've just yesterday ticked

634
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: over one hundred and ten million dollars raised. We sell

635
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: a charity on them every two seconds across the globe,

636
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: like it is phenomenal, and the response from our team

637
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: and our customers has just gone way beyond where we

638
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: thought we'd ever reach.

639
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: And it's so special.

640
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: It's special because we don't we don't ask for big

641
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: donations of fifty or one hundred dollars or whatever. We

642
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: say that one simple contribution of two dollars you know,

643
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the world around and added up can make a huge,

644
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: huge impact and that's that's the new age giving that

645
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: we're sort of bringing to our customer which is which

646
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: is awesome.

647
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: I think that's something that's so unique and that makes

648
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: it such a beautiful project because it is tied in

649
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: with this huge for proper business allows in that way

650
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: customers to engage without making a huge pledge. You can

651
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: be a kind of philanthropist on Mass with the rest

652
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: of the customer base without having a million dollars or

653
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: being really wealthy in your own right. It's lots of

654
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: small you know, lots of people's small generosity combined together,

655
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: and you guys have provided them with that vehicle to

656
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: have an impact on Mass. And I think sometimes you know,

657
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: when there's a lot of charitable things going around on

658
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: social media, for example, people often get really nitpicky around

659
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: like they're just doing it for to look good or

660
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: for whatever reasons, and it's sort of like, who actually

661
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: cares what the reason is for someone doing something If

662
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: the effect and the impact they can have with that

663
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: money is the same, Like, who cares if they're giving

664
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: and donating like that, it doesn't really matter. And it's

665
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: I think if someone buys something from cotton on and

666
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: that goes towards the foundation without them even knowing that.

667
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. That's why the impact is so big,

668
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: because you are bringing for profit in for a non

669
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: not for profit purpose. And that's just why it's so

670
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: clever what you've done, because the impact is there no

671
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: matter what the intention. But then if you do have

672
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: a beautiful intention, you can give more. I have so

673
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: many tote bags and bottles of water at home, like

674
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: I've been on board since the very beginning, and it

675
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: really does make you feel like you're part of something

676
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: from yeah, yeah, it's great, you know that.

677
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Again, the uniqueness of that model is so important to

678
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: us as well that we do feel not only the

679
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: responsibility to the beneficiaries and the people we work with,

680
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: but to our customer as well. You know, it doesn't

681
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: matter if it is a thousand dollars donation or a

682
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: two dollar donation. We want to prove that your money

683
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: is having an impact. And so that's really part of

684
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: our education program for our team to understand what is

685
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: it that they're doing, what is the impact that they're

686
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: making on the ground, and how do they convey that

687
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: to our amazing customer as well. So when they do

688
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: buy that tote bag, they'll come back and buy another

689
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: one or another item to be able to support the

690
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Speaker 1: cause as well. So transparency I think is key.

691
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So I have a couple of questions still about

692
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: the foundation's growth and what's next, but I also want

693
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: to weave in a bit of the NATA and some

694
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: of the struggles that you've had along the way. And

695
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: I think behind the scenes of this extraordinary growth and

696
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: achievement is on a personal level also a lot of

697
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: stuff going on behind the scenes with your adapting to

698
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: a new role and with the foundation that you're managing

699
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: suddenly becoming bigger and bigger and bigger without having had

700
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: a background in philanthropy beforehand. And then there's the reverse

701
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: culture shock that you're having when you're coming home and

702
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: self doubt and compassion fatigue.

703
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: You know.

704
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have a struggle with

705
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: burnout and productivity, but people who are in the caring

706
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: professions or the philanthropic professions have even less incentive to

707
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: stop because they can see the impact of their mission. So,

708
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: in amongst all of this and the big change that

709
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: you're making, how is your personal behind the scenes kind

710
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: of unraveled.

711
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a super light of questions. Sarah, Sorry,

712
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: do my best answer.

713
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: That's brief as I can. I guess that for me,

714
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, to paint the picture a little bit. Early

715
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: days was the real struggle. I think, like you said,

716
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: culture shock, coming back from Uganda, spending long since there

717
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: and then coming back home to Australia was a challenge.

718
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: It was a real challenge early on and it took

719
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: a long time for me to get my head around that.

720
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Speaker 1: But you know, the other big thing was we had

721
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: three boys within three years, so you know, not to

722
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: forget that I have this beautiful wife, celested home trying

723
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: to deal with a young family and also me jetting

724
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: off to twelve thousand kilometers across the globe to do

725
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: my work. So you know, she's been an incredible partner

726
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: in all of this. And again, you know, early days,

727
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: we had to really make some decisions. She wasn't working

728
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: because we had three kids. We had to re mortgage

729
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: the house two times to be able to afford to

730
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: do this role, and they're serious things that we had

731
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: to toss up. I think together we knew it was

732
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: the right thing and we committed to it. And her

733
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: strength and resilience through those early years is just you know,

734
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Speaker 1: I can't understate that because I can't even think how

735
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: hard that would have been for her not to have

736
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: a partner next to her for some long stints and

737
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: having to deal with beautiful boys trying to grow up

738
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: in a world that was a real challenge in those

739
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: early days. So that started off as a really hard slog,

740
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: but it was also we did get a lot of energy.

741
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: Were lucky enough to get the family, celested my boys

742
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: across to Uganda early on as well, so at least

743
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: they had that feeling and that understanding of where his

744
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: dad jet off to. You know, we spent a good

745
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: stints overseas leading into Christmas one year, and it was beautiful.

746
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: You know, to be able to share some of the

747
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: relationships and people I'd met with my family was really

748
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: a turning point for me and for us.

749
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 2: And celest is an expert in early childhood learning.

750
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: She got to help set up our first king and

751
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Uganda and she was so involved and connected to that

752
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: as well, and so you know it's now from there

753
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: kicked on and become a very big piece of our

754
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: family and we hold it very close. To us obviously,

755
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we talk openly about it

756
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: as well, and that's really helped me to digest and

757
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: work through things that have been a huge challenge for

758
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: me as well. And so it's been a long journey.

759
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: I think I've had a lot of coaching along the

760
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: way and a lot of opportunity to be able to

761
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: talk through, you know, the experiences that I face when

762
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: I am overseas, and I think likewise a lot of

763
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: our team that they're exposed to the same thing as well,

764
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: and we're very conscious of that.

765
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, we have.

766
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Such beautiful relationships and great individuals that run the organizations

767
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: in country, but at the same time, you know, we

768
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: are exposed to a lot of things that you're probably

769
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: not necessarily exposed to in a regular job. So for me,

770
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: it was that whole process of really unpacking what it

771
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: is that I'm experiencing, what it is that I'm seeing,

772
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and being very open about it. I think that probably

773
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: didn't happen until probably four or five years into my role,

774
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: and I think, you.

775
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: Know, I probably called it early days.

776
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: It was just building resilience and I was big and

777
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: tough and anything that was thrown at me I could

778
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: take on, and that created something that was going to

779
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: be bigger and tougher for the next thing that I

780
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: took on, and when in actual fact, it wasn't that way.

781
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: It was something that I had to address as an

782
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: individual and I had to address for my mental health

783
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: and my well being. And I had a great coach

784
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: in Trevor Andy, who I met, you know, it's probably

785
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: five years ago now more than that, who really took

786
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: me to another level in.

787
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Being able to unpack it. And he has an incredible saying,

788
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, you have to feel it to heal it.

789
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: That's brilliant.

790
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: It's brilliant, isn't it.

791
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: And it's something that I always have to go back

792
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: to as well, because I can continue to bury things

793
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: that come up and things I need to address. But

794
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: unless you really feel it, unless you go back to

795
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: that moment or really understand and unpack it and spend

796
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: the time to do that, then it will stay with

797
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: you and it might be to your detriment as well.

798
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: It's something you and it works for anyone any walk

799
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: of life. These are the things that you know can

800
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: can bring you great mental health if you can deal

801
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: with it. And talk about it and find a way forward.

802
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: It's and they're going to be beneficial for you and

803
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: your mind. That clarity is so important and something that

804
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, even today I still challenge myself with and

805
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: try and improve in that space.

806
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that.

807
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: It's such a valuable reminder that any type of life

808
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: path that's fulfilling and worthy and challenges you, it takes

809
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: work on yourself. Like I love bringing this up all

810
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 3: the time because especially you know, even when things go perfectly,

811
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: and even when things are going really well, you change,

812
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: people evolve, you go through staff. You've got a lot

813
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: of things to unpack, as you mentioned, and I don't

814
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: think we talk about that as much. We talk, you know,

815
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: about the figure of a journey and how the foundation

816
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: grew and how wonderful the impact was, but we don't

817
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: think about all the stuff you had to process as

818
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: a person behind the scenes to change your values and

819
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: change you know, your metrics for success and your worth.

820
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: I love reminding people that all of us have to

821
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: go through it, you know, on any pathway, but particularly

822
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: in jobs where you have a really big impact, and

823
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: I imagine that boundaries are a lot harder for you

824
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 3: to put in place when you're like, oh, the children

825
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: need me and they're not going to stop needing me,

826
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: So you know, it's hard to kind of rest and

827
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: have boundaries. So you know, how have your metrics for

828
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: success and measuring life changed? And I imagine that's a

829
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: very difficult question given that you're kind of measuring your

830
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: impact in the millions. But at the same time, you

831
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: know it's not all financial and it's about impact. But

832
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: then how do you measure impact? And then to go

833
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: with that question, if you could achieve one thing in

834
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: your lifetime through the Foundation's work, and if money and

835
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: time were no limit, what would you do? What would

836
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: you self?

837
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: And again, like.

838
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: Metrics, for me, they are truly important in terms of

839
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, we've got to tell a story again as well,

840
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: like what are we doing with these funds and how

841
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: are we making the impact?

842
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: So I think that for the wider message is metrics

843
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: are really important. But for me personally, it comes back.

844
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: To again relationships and probably the prime example is really

845
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, I look at Paul, this beautiful young boy

846
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: who now many years down the track, has gone through

847
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: this amazing system we've put in place, and he came

848
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: through and made it to university. He is a qualified accountant,

849
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: he's got a job as a clerk. His little brother

850
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: and sister are going through their own schooling journey. And I,

851
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, my metric is when I sit down with

852
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: Paul and I listened to this beautiful, well spoken, absolutely

853
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: articulate young man talk about his journey with a smile

854
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: on his face and with such passion, that is the

855
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: metric for me. You can you can feel it through

856
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: your body and I could listen, I sit down, I

857
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: could listen to him for hours, and that is that

858
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: is like, it's.

859
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: It's further than satisfaction. It's just it's it's way out

860
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: of this world.

861
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to describe, but it's that's the one that

862
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm in a privileged position where I can see so

863
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: many more kids like Paul and young young adults now

864
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: talk to their journey and talk about how they're going

865
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: to come back and make a difference in their community.

866
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: And that is like they're in the hundreds of thousands now,

867
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's incredible, you know, and the momentum

868
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: that's being built. These are the kids that don't want

869
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: to carry the foundation forward. These are the young people

870
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: that are going to carry the foundation forward. So I

871
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: love that that's the that's the metric. I don't know

872
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: if you can call it a metric, but it's the

873
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: it's the important thing for me. It's the feeling that

874
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: you get. It's the validity of the work that we're

875
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: doing and it is it's real. So that's the again

876
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: that there's nothing that beats that.

877
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: That's an incredible answer. And I think that's so interesting

878
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: because you, like me and like many of us, did

879
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: come from a background where things were measured very financially

880
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: and very you know, external validation wise, rather than internally

881
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: the feeling that you get, which you can't measure. You know,

882
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: you can't really measure the impact of changing someone's life

883
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: that extensively. But I love that that that's the metric

884
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: you go after because that's actual change, which is so

885
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: so wonderful. And what about if you could change one

886
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 3: thing in your lifetime, what problem would you solve?

887
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I again, there's probably two parts of this.

888
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: I think.

889
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: I love looking back on the journey and I actually

890
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: spoke about this recently with my wife about how we

891
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: we just wouldn't change anything because it's all led to

892
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: this point, and it's all a lesson in life, and

893
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I think you've got to celebrate that. And we've seen

894
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: some hard times and seen some tough situations, and although

895
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: we would love to change it because of very regions,

896
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: you've got to sit with it and you've got to

897
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: be proud of the journey you've taken and also understand

898
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: that it is a lesson and learning all along the way.

899
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: But I think overarching, what would I change? I think

900
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: that again, I don't know, like you know, the common

901
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: answer would be inequality and poverty and everything else, But

902
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: it's I think for me, it's just how people view

903
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: others across the globe. I think there is an element

904
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: of compassion and an element of equality that we don't

905
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: We don't all have, and if we had the magic

906
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: wand that would be the difference, because if we approached

907
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: everything with that kind of compassion and consideration, we would

908
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: undoubtedly be in a better place, whether it's poverty or

909
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: the environment or economic circumstances.

910
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: It is the catalyst, I believe.

911
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing. So before we move to the last section,

912
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: what is coming up for the foundation that you're excited about.

913
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: I think there's some new schools coming up in Uganda

914
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: and Thailand, and what are some of the foundations product

915
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: highlights of this year or next year or yeah, whatever

916
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: you're really excited about.

917
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: It is super exciting. I think like to sort of

918
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: take a step back a little bit.

919
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: We've done a lot of work expanding out of Uganda

920
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: in recent years. We're now working in South Africa, which

921
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: has been an amazing journey in itself, and Thailand along

922
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the border of Myanmar with you know, young learners that

923
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: have come across the border there. So you know that

924
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: we're faced with our own challenges across each of those areas,

925
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: and then really importantly our work with indigenous communities here

926
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: in Australia, which is super super powerful in itself, So

927
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: so much going on with each of those areas, you know,

928
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: into the future. We do have three new schools in

929
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: Uganda which are about to open up. We call them

930
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: the b k N Schools from Jaco, Chatera, Kerra and

931
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Tevy Zudungu. So they are you know, again just we

932
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: do pride ourselves on establishing great sustainable schools. So the

933
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: school builds architecturally designed, they're an amazing environment, they're inspiring

934
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: to step into. We believe that these kids deserve the best,

935
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: and we talk about the best there should be world class.

936
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: So even though they're in a rural community in Uganda,

937
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: they should have a classroom and a space that looks

938
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: as good as anywhere else in the world. And so

939
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: these buildings are architecturally designed, they have one awards, but

940
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: they're also importantly sustainable, so they've got load maintenance costs.

941
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: You know, when the kids go to the bathroom, there's

942
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: clean waste removal.

943
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: There are bider jesters which capture the gas from these

944
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: toilets and they can use it for cooking, so there's

945
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: a reduction in cost in fuel used as well. And

946
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: then we've got just these beautiful spaces as you walk

947
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: through that's not only inspiring for the kids, but great

948
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: motivation for the teachers as well, which then leads itself

949
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: to the teachers accommodation on site and so their own

950
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: self contained, amazing environment. It's where we're rolling out three

951
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: more of those in Uganda. We're just stepping into our

952
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: second campus in South Africa as well, and a school

953
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: in a township called Cormashu just outside of Durban in

954
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: South Africa, and again, a beautiful story that sort of

955
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: sits behind that, which I've had more time. I'd love

956
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: to dive into that at some stage. And then you know,

957
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: we've got our second school in Thailand which we're stepping

958
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: into as well, in may Salt along the border of

959
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: the Amma. So you know, when we talk about schools

960
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: opening up, it's not just that physical presence but everything

961
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: as soon as that child wakes up in the morning,

962
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: what do they need access to to be successful? So

963
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: making sure that they have the best of healthcare, that

964
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: they have support to make sure that they are healthy

965
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: and feeling. You know, they've got nutritious meals, They're stepping

966
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: into school with a full valley and they can really

967
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: give it.

968
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 2: Their best shot.

969
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot that goes around in to

970
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: that and our local teams that really make that happen.

971
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: So they're the exciting things from a project perspective, and

972
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: then from a product perspective, we've just actually launched our

973
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: aluminium water bottle, which has been an evolution of us

974
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: trying to get away from single use plastic. And you know,

975
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: we did have the single use plastic water bottles for

976
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: quite a few years. That moved to one hundred percent

977
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: recycled plastic and now the evolution is removing plastic altogether

978
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: and introducing an Aussie first, which is the aluminium water bottle.

979
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: So that's just launched. It's it's been massive. But then

980
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: you know, through.

981
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: COVID we've listened to the customer and obviously the number

982
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: one thing that thereafter is face masks, and we introduced

983
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: those as well and amazingly generated in what was eleven weeks,

984
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: five million dollars off the back of introducing face masks, so.

985
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: Which was just mind blowing.

986
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: Sarah So again helping support people through COVID, but at

987
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: the same time contributing one hundred percent of those funds

988
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: to come on foundation projects to change lives. So just

989
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: finding new ways that you know, we can offer the

990
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: customer a way to take action that is relevant and

991
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: we might stop innovating in that space.

992
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: You have such an interesting kind of duel role between

993
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: You're not just the GM of a foundation that operates

994
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: with its own, you know, within its own philanthropic world,

995
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: you're also kind of business developing and working on product

996
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 3: and customers. But you know, there's like such a dual

997
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: element to the way that you think about the way

998
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: that you're doing your role, which I think is so

999
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 3: interesting because you kind of get a little bit of both.

1000
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: You still get that real business element over here in

1001
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: product development and innovation, but then it's also actually translating

1002
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 3: into real impact. And it also reminds me that even massive,

1003
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: massive organizations like cotton On and the Foundation, even you

1004
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: guys do things in iterations. You do what you can

1005
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: with what you've got at the time. You know, you

1006
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: did plastic first because that's what you could, and then

1007
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: you worked on making recyclable and now you've you know,

1008
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: innovation takes time, and I think we're all very very

1009
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: impatient with ourselves and want to see results straight away.

1010
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: But things do happen in versions and chapters and I

1011
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: love that.

1012
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: And you've got to You've got to stay in the journey,

1013
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 2: don't you. You can't, you can't waive.

1014
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: But there's always innovation, there's always new ways to do

1015
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: things in better ways, so you've got to keep pushing on.

1016
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: But I think, like to to your point, it is

1017
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: an amazing it's an amazing diverse role, but there's too

1018
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: many people to.

1019
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: Real life and count on how much support that you

1020
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: know I'm getting this role as well, like the guys

1021
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: that are so passionate about the work that we do.

1022
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: It just it's through the business and everyone wants to

1023
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: put their hand up and make a difference, which is truly.

1024
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: Amazing, oh wonderful. And it's another example as well. You know,

1025
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 3: I often try and remind people that being an entrepreneur

1026
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: is not the only way to seize your joy. You know,

1027
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: you could find your yea being an entrepreneur in so

1028
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: many organizations that really really support you having the same

1029
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: amount of innovative thought and creativity. It's just in a

1030
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: different structure. And I think cotton On would be and

1031
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: the Foundation you know, would be such a wonderful place

1032
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 3: to work because you are allowed that creativity and innovation,

1033
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: you know, innovative thinking. But I also would love to

1034
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: know and this is the very last section called Playta

1035
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: where we separate your working identity and productivity from who

1036
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: you actually are, which I mentioned. You know, your job

1037
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: and the amazing impact that you can have would be

1038
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: quite consuming at times and also hard to sort of

1039
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: ever totally switch off because obviously the world still needs

1040
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: the things that you're trying to do. How do you play.

1041
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: How do you make time for things that are just

1042
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: for joy, You're not trying to have any impact with

1043
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: them or get better at them or you know, I'm

1044
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: a bit of an a type, so I even try

1045
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: and kind of like win at resting, Like what are

1046
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: the things that make you forget what time it is?

1047
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you know, for me, it's like my family's

1048
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: number one. For me, I just love spending time with them.

1049
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: But the great thing is they're also different. So you know,

1050
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: whether we're spending family time together or we're carving off

1051
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: one on one, it's always so varied. You know, we're

1052
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: either going for a surf or we're going bike riding

1053
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: or running, or we can find you know, like myself

1054
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: and celested down and do a yoga session.

1055
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: It is, and I love variety. That's kind of me.

1056
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: I I don't like to set all for one thing,

1057
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: so it actually works out well.

1058
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: So again, I'm so super fortunate that I can do

1059
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: it in that way and that I've got, you now,

1060
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: four boys that are totally different in different avenues, but

1061
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: find really cool things to do with them. And I

1062
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: think for me, you know that you know, it's still

1063
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: a consistent practice of mindfulness and finding a way to

1064
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: clear my mind no matter what you're doing, you know,

1065
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: whether you are pre COVID and we're traveling and it's

1066
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: pretty hectic, finding ways to continue.

1067
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: To clear my mind and refresh.

1068
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: And I think that is that is so important. Finding

1069
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: the time, making the time to do that is critical.

1070
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: Do you do any dumb stuff like Netflix? Like trashy shows,

1071
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: heaps of stuff like that.

1072
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Reassure me here, absolutely, we love Netflix. It's just we don't.

1073
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: The only problem is we never get to binge.

1074
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: Like we get to we get through two episodes and it'say,

1075
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: there's one kid wants to do something, we're just adzonged.

1076
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: We just we're out.

1077
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: So you know, to find that four or five hour

1078
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: block to just binge, you know, like a few episodes

1079
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: in a row. We're always dreaming of that, so.

1080
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: We just got to do it one day.

1081
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: Totally. I'm very glad you have that brainless activity as well.

1082
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: Just to finish out, what are three interesting things about

1083
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: you that don't normally come up in conversation?

1084
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, there's a few random things. I

1085
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: think one one is I did have dreadlocks when I

1086
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: was at university, so that was. That was a time

1087
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: that was and.

1088
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: I was the bunner all the jokes from my mates

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Speaker 1: during during union when I had those, so they came

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Speaker 1: off pretty quick, honest.

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Speaker 2: I, you know, one of the one of the cool things,

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Speaker 2: and actually, you know, an amazing thing. I was given

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Speaker 2: an indigenous name.

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Speaker 1: I've been Yetakala in the community we work in, a

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Speaker 1: young named by a beautiful woman called Jelinda. She gave

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Speaker 1: me the name Werper, which is the meaning essentially is

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Speaker 1: calm water. And so probably you know, honestly, one of

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Speaker 1: the most amazing things that you know, I've ever been

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Speaker 1: given and one of the most rewarding things. So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of that's super special. I don't often share that

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Speaker 1: with people, but it is an amazing thing and I'm

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Speaker 1: truly honored to be given that name. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: probably the other thing is Slas and I are massive

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Speaker 1: red hot Chili Peppers fans for our firstborn Kobe Kobe.

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Speaker 2: Who's our son. When he was when he was growing.

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Speaker 1: In his mum, we read the book A Scar Tissue,

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Speaker 1: which for those who have read it, if you've read

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Speaker 1: it before, Sarah, yeah, it's a great book, but it's

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Speaker 1: probably not but you know, there's probably not bedtime reading

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Speaker 1: for the little bub in the tummy. But that's okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's just something we love, and

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Speaker 1: we love the chili peppers. So yeah, they're probably a

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Speaker 1: few random things that you know, not too many people

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Speaker 1: know about me.

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Speaker 3: I love them. They're always It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: questions because you just find out all this stuff that's like,

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Speaker 3: that's the human behind the role. You know, we hear

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Speaker 3: all the stuff about your work, you being you know, work,

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Speaker 3: you dad, you you know, it's just nice to hear

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Speaker 3: all the fun facts. And then the very last question,

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Speaker 3: since I love quote so much, what is your favorite quote?

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Speaker 2: I love you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned before, you have to feel it to heal it again.

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Speaker 1: I can't go past over. I mean there's so many

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Speaker 1: great quotes, but that just to me. I've just come

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Speaker 1: back to it weekly, almost daily. It's just such an

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Speaker 1: important important quote for me, and I guess you know,

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Speaker 1: this time of even going through COVID and I've used

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Speaker 1: it for some of my family members and definitely close

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Speaker 1: friends on it's such an important time to stick with it,

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Speaker 1: you know, understand the way you're feeling and be okay

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Speaker 1: with that, but that's okay, and trying to sort of

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Speaker 1: dig a bit deeper and find out the reasons why

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Speaker 1: are you're feeling that way and being able to share

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Speaker 1: that I think is really important and it's always a

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Speaker 1: catalyst that quote for me. If I'm feeling off, I

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Speaker 1: can ask myself that and I can deep dive myself.

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Speaker 1: But if you can't do that yourself, ask someone else

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Speaker 1: to help you do it, because I think it's so important.

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Speaker 3: That is an excellent reminder. I'm a serial masker. I

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Speaker 3: think I tire my identity up so much in coping

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Speaker 3: that then I'm like, I don't feel anything. I don't

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Speaker 3: feel anything. It's fine, but I love that. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a catalyst for me as well.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much for sharing, and thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for joining. This was such a wonderful chat.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to hear about everything the foundation is

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Speaker 3: doing and huge, huge credit and congratulations to all of you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sarah, it's been a great chat. I really appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, thanks to everyone supported along the journey.

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Speaker 1: It's just been remarkable and is to the next steps

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Speaker 1: in the journey. Can't wait to keep rolling.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well. I'll make sure to include links to the

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Speaker 3: new bottles and anything else that you guys might have

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Speaker 3: going on, and thank you.

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Speaker 2: So much for joining awesome Thanks Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is another one of those stories where I

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Speaker 3: had interacted with the Foundation and long since been an

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Speaker 3: avid cotton On shopper, but I never much thought about

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Speaker 3: the people behind the scenes. I love diving into the

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Speaker 3: ways ta behind the impact we see around us, and

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Speaker 3: I'm so so grateful to Tim for jumping on the

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Speaker 3: show and to you guys for making the show possible.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but this makes me want

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Speaker 3: to load up on toads and face masks and their

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Speaker 3: new Eliminum bottles. I'll include links in the show notes

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Speaker 3: so you can get around them too. If you enjoyed,

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Speaker 3: please do share, tagging at cotton On Foundation and myself

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Speaker 3: so we know what you think. I hope you're having

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Speaker 3: an amazing week and are seizing your yeay