1 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:15,349 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mum and mea podcast. Mama Maya 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,669 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,709 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:23,229 Speaker 2: I am pregnant. 5 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:30,029 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:30,069 --> 00:00:33,069 Speaker 1: more manageable. I'm Grace Rubray, pregnant for the first time, 7 00:00:33,149 --> 00:00:35,749 Speaker 1: and my clothes don't fit me anymore, some of them. 8 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:37,389 Speaker 1: And I'm on a Pittman. 9 00:00:37,429 --> 00:00:39,869 Speaker 2: I'm a former Olympian, mother of six little people, and 10 00:00:39,909 --> 00:00:41,429 Speaker 2: I'm now training to be an obstetrician. 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:44,109 Speaker 1: Each episode will be holding your hand week by week 12 00:00:44,189 --> 00:00:48,589 Speaker 1: through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes expensive miracle that is pregnancy. 13 00:00:49,589 --> 00:00:50,869 Speaker 2: Week eighteen. 14 00:00:52,269 --> 00:00:54,309 Speaker 1: What fruit are we? 15 00:00:54,309 --> 00:00:56,709 Speaker 2: We are now a large orange. Apparently a naval orange 16 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:58,709 Speaker 2: from last week is smaller than a large orange, so 17 00:00:58,749 --> 00:01:01,509 Speaker 2: we're moving on to a large orang. Okay, something that 18 00:01:01,549 --> 00:01:02,989 Speaker 2: some people like in pregnancy are big. 19 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:07,549 Speaker 1: Back yes, or a sunflower suflap that's much nice, that's beautiful. 20 00:01:07,789 --> 00:01:11,629 Speaker 2: Fourteen to fifteen centimeters so big getty, bigger, one hundred 21 00:01:11,629 --> 00:01:13,669 Speaker 2: and forty to two hundred grams. So you know, we're 22 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:16,629 Speaker 2: starting to get a little bit more substantial in size. 23 00:01:17,149 --> 00:01:18,789 Speaker 1: And how are they developing this week. 24 00:01:18,989 --> 00:01:20,309 Speaker 2: They have eyebrows. 25 00:01:20,869 --> 00:01:24,069 Speaker 1: That's weird. I know, it's very cute. Hair and fingernails. 26 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:25,749 Speaker 2: I just think that is so cute to think that that, 27 00:01:25,829 --> 00:01:27,349 Speaker 2: you know, a little person in there is starting to 28 00:01:27,349 --> 00:01:30,749 Speaker 2: get little tufts of hair above their eyes. They can 29 00:01:30,789 --> 00:01:33,549 Speaker 2: now yawn and hiccup, but you probably won't feel the hiccupping. 30 00:01:34,109 --> 00:01:36,549 Speaker 2: And they have taste buds, so they're starting to actually 31 00:01:36,549 --> 00:01:39,029 Speaker 2: taste the amniotic fluid that they're drinking in. And then 32 00:01:39,149 --> 00:01:41,629 Speaker 2: you know, depending on what you're eating, may actually start 33 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:42,549 Speaker 2: to like different things. 34 00:01:42,709 --> 00:01:43,989 Speaker 1: Oh, I feel bad for them. 35 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:46,469 Speaker 2: Well, you're not eating very much. 36 00:01:46,949 --> 00:01:50,309 Speaker 1: I'm eating a lot of a lot of carbs. Like 37 00:01:50,429 --> 00:01:54,869 Speaker 1: the safe foods are bread, pasta, burritos, britos. 38 00:01:55,829 --> 00:01:58,109 Speaker 2: You said you have some beef and. 39 00:01:58,069 --> 00:02:00,629 Speaker 1: I haven't kicked any. It's definitely more like a goodsman 40 00:02:00,709 --> 00:02:05,469 Speaker 1: comes sautee vegetables. What's good. It's actually really good. There's 41 00:02:05,509 --> 00:02:06,269 Speaker 1: heaps of stuff in it. 42 00:02:06,429 --> 00:02:07,509 Speaker 2: Absolutely great. 43 00:02:07,589 --> 00:02:09,909 Speaker 1: I hope they like Mexican food when they like spicy, 44 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:16,309 Speaker 1: come out. What's happening to me? And what is happening 45 00:02:16,349 --> 00:02:17,629 Speaker 1: to our body right now? 46 00:02:17,909 --> 00:02:20,269 Speaker 2: Or your uterus is definitely pushing up more there's more 47 00:02:20,349 --> 00:02:22,029 Speaker 2: arteries and blood flow, so you might feel it a 48 00:02:22,069 --> 00:02:24,909 Speaker 2: little bit dizzy when you stand up occasionally, and you're 49 00:02:24,909 --> 00:02:26,669 Speaker 2: probably starting to gain a bit more weight, and it'd 50 00:02:26,669 --> 00:02:28,189 Speaker 2: be a bit more obvious to you on the scales. 51 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:31,629 Speaker 1: I definitely felt getting more dizzy, and it was something 52 00:02:31,669 --> 00:02:34,909 Speaker 1: that really made me feel quite anxious sometimes as well, 53 00:02:35,109 --> 00:02:37,229 Speaker 1: Like I'd stand up and I'd feel dizzy, and then 54 00:02:37,669 --> 00:02:39,669 Speaker 1: I would keep doing like the scan to go, am, 55 00:02:39,709 --> 00:02:42,909 Speaker 1: I okay, it's. 56 00:02:41,829 --> 00:02:44,389 Speaker 2: Good, I'm sorry. That's great, because people just dismiss dizziness 57 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:46,309 Speaker 2: as oh, I'm just dizzy because I'm pregnant. So what 58 00:02:46,349 --> 00:02:47,069 Speaker 2: else did you feel? 59 00:02:47,949 --> 00:02:50,309 Speaker 1: And my heart? That's when I could feel my heart 60 00:02:50,349 --> 00:02:53,589 Speaker 1: either beating faster or I could just definitely, I think 61 00:02:53,709 --> 00:02:56,189 Speaker 1: overall in pregnancy, and I think it's from the theme 62 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:59,189 Speaker 1: of every single week blood yep, more blood yeap is 63 00:02:59,349 --> 00:03:02,349 Speaker 1: I could feel my heart beating in a way that 64 00:03:02,389 --> 00:03:04,229 Speaker 1: I've never been able to feel it before. Like sometimes 65 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:06,669 Speaker 1: I can feel it like down in my stomach, or 66 00:03:06,669 --> 00:03:09,309 Speaker 1: I could definitely feel it in my chest. My pulse 67 00:03:09,389 --> 00:03:10,469 Speaker 1: is a lot longer. 68 00:03:10,869 --> 00:03:12,309 Speaker 2: That can be a little bit scary. I mean, I'm 69 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:14,189 Speaker 2: glad that you saw it as an issue most of 70 00:03:14,189 --> 00:03:15,589 Speaker 2: the time. It's not. Most of the time. It is. 71 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:17,389 Speaker 2: As we said, it's blood volume and your heart is 72 00:03:17,389 --> 00:03:20,429 Speaker 2: having to work harder to pump that blood volume around. 73 00:03:20,469 --> 00:03:22,389 Speaker 2: So yes, most people do describe they can feel their 74 00:03:22,389 --> 00:03:24,189 Speaker 2: heart beat, sometimes for the first time in their life, like, 75 00:03:24,269 --> 00:03:27,389 Speaker 2: oh wow, that's strong. Sometimes it is faster. It can 76 00:03:27,389 --> 00:03:29,589 Speaker 2: go up to ten to twenty beats faster in pregnancy. 77 00:03:29,669 --> 00:03:32,549 Speaker 2: So either our heartwork beats harder or it beats faster 78 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:35,829 Speaker 2: to help that circulation because your cardiac outputs increase significantly. 79 00:03:36,469 --> 00:03:38,429 Speaker 2: I think it's time to discuss a few of the 80 00:03:38,429 --> 00:03:40,789 Speaker 2: red flags in this space though, because yes, in most cases, 81 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:43,749 Speaker 2: think about it. Your body is unfortunately prioritizing your baby 82 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:45,629 Speaker 2: over the rest of your body, and so when you're 83 00:03:45,629 --> 00:03:47,909 Speaker 2: sitting down calmly, it's sending all your blood boats not 84 00:03:47,949 --> 00:03:49,429 Speaker 2: all of it, but a large amount of your blood 85 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:52,749 Speaker 2: volume to your kidneys and to your uterus to support 86 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:55,469 Speaker 2: your baby. So your main organs to get prioritized over 87 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:58,389 Speaker 2: your legs and unfortunately upstairs. So when you stand up quickly, 88 00:03:58,469 --> 00:04:00,429 Speaker 2: that bloodlog, oh my goodness hasn't quite caught up with 89 00:04:00,469 --> 00:04:03,189 Speaker 2: me yet. I'm prioritizing this little lady off it goes 90 00:04:03,189 --> 00:04:05,189 Speaker 2: and then you feel a bit dizzy. It should right 91 00:04:05,229 --> 00:04:08,589 Speaker 2: itself pretty quickly though, so it should redistribute fairly quickly. 92 00:04:09,189 --> 00:04:11,069 Speaker 2: This is the time I think we need to raise 93 00:04:11,109 --> 00:04:13,669 Speaker 2: a few red flags because not always. It's example, a 94 00:04:13,709 --> 00:04:16,309 Speaker 2: higher faster heart rate and feeling is a sign of PE. 95 00:04:16,429 --> 00:04:18,629 Speaker 2: So that's the pulmonary embolism that we talked about before. 96 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:20,669 Speaker 2: So if you're having persistent tachy cardia, which is a 97 00:04:20,669 --> 00:04:23,749 Speaker 2: fast heart rate, any sign of chest pain, it's a 98 00:04:23,789 --> 00:04:25,949 Speaker 2: red flag. It's a straight to the emergency department if 99 00:04:25,949 --> 00:04:27,709 Speaker 2: you're under twenty weeks, or to your birth unit because 100 00:04:27,709 --> 00:04:29,669 Speaker 2: you need to rule that out it is life threatening. 101 00:04:30,909 --> 00:04:34,189 Speaker 2: Pregnancy unveils stuff. So sometimes you might have a very 102 00:04:34,189 --> 00:04:36,189 Speaker 2: healthy body, you've never been to the hospital in your life, 103 00:04:36,189 --> 00:04:37,829 Speaker 2: but you don't know that you don't have an underlyzing 104 00:04:37,869 --> 00:04:40,109 Speaker 2: cardiac disease. So there might be something with your valves. 105 00:04:40,549 --> 00:04:42,629 Speaker 2: There might be something with the actual muscles around your heart. 106 00:04:42,669 --> 00:04:45,549 Speaker 2: Because you can get things like valvular disease and cardio 107 00:04:45,589 --> 00:04:50,189 Speaker 2: Mapitthian pregnancy which unfortunately become unearthed, and so if you're 108 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:52,349 Speaker 2: having those symptoms, it's just better to get them ruled out, 109 00:04:52,469 --> 00:04:54,749 Speaker 2: So the situation will simply be you'll go in that 110 00:04:54,829 --> 00:04:56,989 Speaker 2: pop an ECG on you, like an older person having 111 00:04:56,989 --> 00:04:59,269 Speaker 2: a heart check. They'll check if there's any obvious a rhythmias. 112 00:04:59,749 --> 00:05:01,389 Speaker 2: If there is, they might send you for some extra 113 00:05:01,429 --> 00:05:03,829 Speaker 2: tests like an echo cardiac echo where they look at 114 00:05:03,829 --> 00:05:05,589 Speaker 2: the valves and they look at the way the heart functions, 115 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:07,189 Speaker 2: or they might even put something on you like a 116 00:05:07,189 --> 00:05:09,109 Speaker 2: whole to monitor, which actually tracks the way your heart 117 00:05:09,149 --> 00:05:11,469 Speaker 2: works over twenty four hour hours. Now, many of the 118 00:05:11,509 --> 00:05:14,269 Speaker 2: time won't capture what you're actually experiencing. Luck that you 119 00:05:14,389 --> 00:05:16,509 Speaker 2: get dizzy in that first twenty four hours, so sometimes 120 00:05:16,509 --> 00:05:17,989 Speaker 2: it could take a little bit of a work up here. 121 00:05:18,029 --> 00:05:19,749 Speaker 2: But I think the key is to get checked in 122 00:05:19,869 --> 00:05:22,749 Speaker 2: and aware if there's anything major, because the last thing 123 00:05:22,749 --> 00:05:24,549 Speaker 2: you need to be is a higher risk pregnancy and 124 00:05:24,549 --> 00:05:28,149 Speaker 2: feel unwell, you know, when you want to just enjoy 125 00:05:28,189 --> 00:05:28,909 Speaker 2: what you're going through. 126 00:05:29,389 --> 00:05:31,909 Speaker 1: One thing that my midwifes did check around this stage 127 00:05:31,949 --> 00:05:35,229 Speaker 1: was my hemoglobin and my iron because they said, let's 128 00:05:35,269 --> 00:05:37,469 Speaker 1: just make sure that you're pumping the right amount of 129 00:05:37,509 --> 00:05:41,269 Speaker 1: oxygen around your body. Does that have some like can 130 00:05:41,309 --> 00:05:43,669 Speaker 1: you explain how that has something to do with the 131 00:05:43,709 --> 00:05:45,229 Speaker 1: dizziness or your heart changing. 132 00:05:45,429 --> 00:05:47,589 Speaker 2: Yeah, it also could be dehydrated guys. So if you've 133 00:05:47,589 --> 00:05:50,029 Speaker 2: got low blood volume that day, you've just not drunk enough. 134 00:05:50,029 --> 00:05:53,269 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get dizzy from that. So what is hemoglobin, 135 00:05:53,349 --> 00:05:55,389 Speaker 2: so hemoglobin or your HB. So when you're looking on 136 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:57,669 Speaker 2: your blood tests, you'll see the little mark saying hemoglobin 137 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:59,989 Speaker 2: is one hundred and thirty. So that's a good, nice 138 00:06:00,069 --> 00:06:02,189 Speaker 2: level of hemoglobin. And so all that is the molecules 139 00:06:02,189 --> 00:06:05,869 Speaker 2: that carry the oxygen around your body. In pregnancy, it's 140 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:08,229 Speaker 2: the hemoglobin is made up of iron. So if your 141 00:06:08,229 --> 00:06:10,109 Speaker 2: iron stores drop because your bubby is nicked at all, 142 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:12,989 Speaker 2: fortunately a little parasite, as we said, it's taken all 143 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:15,909 Speaker 2: your iron, your body can't rebuild that hemoglobin. And so 144 00:06:16,429 --> 00:06:19,589 Speaker 2: throughout particularly labors, when we worry about obviously we worry 145 00:06:19,589 --> 00:06:21,829 Speaker 2: about impregnancy if you're really tired and fatigue because of 146 00:06:21,829 --> 00:06:24,629 Speaker 2: low iron and low hemoglobin. But in labor you are 147 00:06:24,669 --> 00:06:27,349 Speaker 2: going to unfortunately bleed no matter what, because it's part 148 00:06:27,429 --> 00:06:29,709 Speaker 2: of the process of birthing. And so therefore, if you 149 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:31,709 Speaker 2: start off low, in other words, if your hemoglobin is 150 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:34,469 Speaker 2: under one hundred and ten and your iron level is 151 00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:36,829 Speaker 2: for us. It's under thirty is the level, but some 152 00:06:36,909 --> 00:06:39,189 Speaker 2: women coming with irons down at through Ferreton levels of 153 00:06:39,229 --> 00:06:42,309 Speaker 2: three and five, like really low, it's time to start 154 00:06:42,349 --> 00:06:45,589 Speaker 2: an oral iron supplement. So signs to say yes if 155 00:06:45,589 --> 00:06:47,349 Speaker 2: you've got a fast heart rate or you're feeling really dizzy, 156 00:06:47,349 --> 00:06:50,589 Speaker 2: but particularly women describe feeling really tired, feeling back to 157 00:06:50,669 --> 00:06:52,429 Speaker 2: like what they felt like in the early trimester, well 158 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:54,229 Speaker 2: in the first foun out they were pregnant. Get it 159 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:56,509 Speaker 2: checked even if you should have had it checked around 160 00:06:56,509 --> 00:06:58,069 Speaker 2: sort of seven or eight weeks of pregnance, you're even 161 00:06:58,069 --> 00:07:00,429 Speaker 2: before pregnancy anyway. But if not, get it rechecked. And 162 00:07:00,509 --> 00:07:02,709 Speaker 2: particularly if you've been someone who's unfortunately had what we 163 00:07:02,749 --> 00:07:05,349 Speaker 2: call aphs, which is antipatum hemorrhages. So if you have 164 00:07:05,389 --> 00:07:08,109 Speaker 2: been bleeding in pregnancy, we'll go to that all that's 165 00:07:08,149 --> 00:07:10,389 Speaker 2: a big topic. But if you've if you have been 166 00:07:10,389 --> 00:07:12,189 Speaker 2: one of those people that could drop quite quickly. 167 00:07:13,349 --> 00:07:14,829 Speaker 1: What are some things that we can do this week? 168 00:07:14,829 --> 00:07:17,069 Speaker 1: What are some things to check off on the checklist 169 00:07:17,069 --> 00:07:18,629 Speaker 1: that we can check off on the checklist. 170 00:07:18,949 --> 00:07:20,629 Speaker 2: Well, as I said, book your morphology. It's got to 171 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:21,989 Speaker 2: be done. But I'm going to go with a mothery 172 00:07:22,029 --> 00:07:24,429 Speaker 2: one here. I think it's time to start capturing belly photos, 173 00:07:24,749 --> 00:07:26,509 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's time to turn sideways in 174 00:07:26,509 --> 00:07:27,789 Speaker 2: the mirror and take a picture because you're going to 175 00:07:27,829 --> 00:07:30,709 Speaker 2: start seeing things change quite quickly now. And obviously keep 176 00:07:30,709 --> 00:07:32,429 Speaker 2: adding to that playlist of music for your birth. 177 00:07:41,069 --> 00:07:44,189 Speaker 1: My talk kit is about not feeling movement yet, and 178 00:07:44,229 --> 00:07:47,069 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's other people, depending on where 179 00:07:47,069 --> 00:07:48,509 Speaker 1: their percenter is, that they're not going to be able 180 00:07:48,549 --> 00:07:49,949 Speaker 1: to film movement. And I know we'll talk more about 181 00:07:49,949 --> 00:07:52,469 Speaker 1: placenta when we get to morphology, but I wanted to 182 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:55,829 Speaker 1: know some tips or some reassuring things from you if 183 00:07:56,229 --> 00:07:59,389 Speaker 1: when people do start to feel movement and they get excited, 184 00:07:59,589 --> 00:08:02,709 Speaker 1: but you're not still weeks away from that, what are 185 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:06,309 Speaker 1: some things that can reassure or I don't know, when 186 00:08:06,389 --> 00:08:07,789 Speaker 1: is it most likely to start feeling this? 187 00:08:07,989 --> 00:08:08,709 Speaker 2: So frustrated? 188 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:09,469 Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? 189 00:08:10,669 --> 00:08:13,629 Speaker 2: The whole saying around a percenter being anterior or posterior. 190 00:08:13,629 --> 00:08:15,309 Speaker 2: All that means is your placenta growing on the front 191 00:08:15,349 --> 00:08:17,189 Speaker 2: of your uterus, on the back of it. If it's 192 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:19,149 Speaker 2: growing at the back, you'll feel your baby's movement more. 193 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:21,309 Speaker 2: If it's growing on the front, it can actually it 194 00:08:21,389 --> 00:08:23,549 Speaker 2: just does it because Bobby's kicking against the placenter and 195 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:26,629 Speaker 2: she's not big enough yet to make forceful movements you 196 00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:29,509 Speaker 2: can feel, and so it's very frustrating for those women. 197 00:08:29,669 --> 00:08:32,749 Speaker 2: And I have one practicey. I've had lots of them obviously, 198 00:08:32,789 --> 00:08:34,669 Speaker 2: where I didn't feel baby moved till twenty seven, twenty 199 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:37,549 Speaker 2: eight weeks confidently like that was so scary and acually. 200 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:39,789 Speaker 2: I had ultrasound skills, so I was scaring myself every 201 00:08:39,829 --> 00:08:41,709 Speaker 2: couple of days because I was so afraid i'd lost 202 00:08:41,709 --> 00:08:43,829 Speaker 2: the baby. But I think you just need to be 203 00:08:43,869 --> 00:08:46,869 Speaker 2: reassured that the chances of something going wrong at this 204 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:50,109 Speaker 2: gestation is low, and if it's going to happen, as 205 00:08:50,149 --> 00:08:52,149 Speaker 2: horrible as this sounds, there's nothing we can do about 206 00:08:52,149 --> 00:08:54,789 Speaker 2: it at this point, so just relax, give it a 207 00:08:54,789 --> 00:08:56,949 Speaker 2: couple more weeks. There'll be times coming up in the 208 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:58,629 Speaker 2: next few years where we hassle you, the doctors and 209 00:08:58,669 --> 00:09:00,709 Speaker 2: the midwives, go is your baby moving, Grace, is it moving? 210 00:09:00,789 --> 00:09:02,229 Speaker 2: Is it moving? You're like, oh, stop asking me, I'll 211 00:09:02,229 --> 00:09:04,589 Speaker 2: tell you if it's not right now. If you're not 212 00:09:04,629 --> 00:09:06,709 Speaker 2: feeling it can be completely and utterly normal. 213 00:09:10,549 --> 00:09:12,709 Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello Bump. 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