1 00:00:15,024 --> 00:00:17,744 Speaker 1: From mum and mea welcome to the spill your daily 2 00:00:17,784 --> 00:00:21,184 Speaker 1: pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Murnham and 3 00:00:21,304 --> 00:00:24,544 Speaker 1: on today's show, guys, the gauntlet has been lifted. The 4 00:00:24,704 --> 00:00:28,544 Speaker 1: chains have been taken off, because finally, finally, the embargo 5 00:00:28,704 --> 00:00:31,384 Speaker 1: for Gladiator two has been lifted, and we're going to 6 00:00:31,464 --> 00:00:34,664 Speaker 1: give you out honest review. No spoilers though this is 7 00:00:34,784 --> 00:00:35,784 Speaker 1: you know, this is spoiler. 8 00:00:35,864 --> 00:00:38,984 Speaker 2: Lie day dreaming about this, I've been dreaming at this moment. 9 00:00:40,144 --> 00:00:43,184 Speaker 1: Also, there has been a whole raft of celebrity baby 10 00:00:43,224 --> 00:00:46,424 Speaker 1: news this week. But interestingly enough, behind each of these 11 00:00:46,704 --> 00:00:50,784 Speaker 1: celebrity announcements or stories, there is bit of drama behind 12 00:00:50,784 --> 00:00:52,504 Speaker 1: all of them. I'm not gonna lie and some sweetness 13 00:00:52,544 --> 00:00:54,224 Speaker 1: because you know celebrity babies. Well, we're going to get 14 00:00:54,264 --> 00:00:56,584 Speaker 1: into the drama, but first, I feel like. 15 00:00:56,544 --> 00:00:59,744 Speaker 2: We've had a bit of a lull in the highly 16 00:01:00,064 --> 00:01:04,504 Speaker 2: creative reality TV atmosphere, which is why I've got some 17 00:01:04,704 --> 00:01:09,344 Speaker 2: really good news to share because America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys 18 00:01:09,384 --> 00:01:12,184 Speaker 2: Cheerleaders coming back for a season two. 19 00:01:12,264 --> 00:01:14,304 Speaker 1: Thank god, I reckon, We're going to have to do 20 00:01:14,344 --> 00:01:16,664 Speaker 1: a really honest on this. Yeah, I pencil in for 21 00:01:16,704 --> 00:01:18,344 Speaker 1: three years from now when it comes out. 22 00:01:18,544 --> 00:01:21,184 Speaker 2: We actually I think we should link our first really 23 00:01:21,224 --> 00:01:23,424 Speaker 2: honest trivia for season one in the show notes that 24 00:01:23,504 --> 00:01:25,064 Speaker 2: was a great time in case you're got because I 25 00:01:25,144 --> 00:01:27,464 Speaker 2: think that was one of my favorite ones. But if 26 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:29,864 Speaker 2: you aren't aware of what the hell I'm talking about, 27 00:01:29,984 --> 00:01:33,064 Speaker 2: it is a reality show on Netflix. It came out 28 00:01:33,064 --> 00:01:35,144 Speaker 2: in June this year, which I felt like was two 29 00:01:35,184 --> 00:01:37,664 Speaker 2: years ago. It feels ages, but it only came out 30 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:41,424 Speaker 2: this year, and it followed a cheerleading squad that plays 31 00:01:41,464 --> 00:01:44,944 Speaker 2: for the NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, and it looked 32 00:01:44,984 --> 00:01:48,864 Speaker 2: at how these women start from the beginning of their 33 00:01:48,944 --> 00:01:51,544 Speaker 2: like trying to audition for this massive role, to like 34 00:01:52,064 --> 00:01:54,944 Speaker 2: being cut It's so cutthroat. It's like one of the 35 00:01:54,984 --> 00:01:57,904 Speaker 2: probably most cut throat industries I've seen women go through 36 00:01:58,304 --> 00:02:01,704 Speaker 2: until they end up being a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. It's 37 00:02:01,744 --> 00:02:05,424 Speaker 2: not really about the cheering in particular, it's more about 38 00:02:05,424 --> 00:02:08,624 Speaker 2: the journey these women go through too, and the holy cheerleader. 39 00:02:08,664 --> 00:02:12,784 Speaker 1: Sure behind this industry that looks so ridiculous and sexist 40 00:02:12,784 --> 00:02:15,184 Speaker 1: and silly from the outside, but there's a much to 41 00:02:15,224 --> 00:02:17,224 Speaker 1: be history behind it as well as the fact that 42 00:02:17,264 --> 00:02:19,064 Speaker 1: it's also problematic and sexist. 43 00:02:18,904 --> 00:02:20,144 Speaker 2: And the but heartwarming. 44 00:02:20,424 --> 00:02:22,264 Speaker 1: Heartwarming because two things at once. 45 00:02:22,384 --> 00:02:25,104 Speaker 2: These women want to be a cheerleader so badly for 46 00:02:25,144 --> 00:02:28,024 Speaker 2: this specific team, to the point where they would do 47 00:02:28,064 --> 00:02:30,224 Speaker 2: it for free. And half of them are doctors and 48 00:02:30,264 --> 00:02:33,104 Speaker 2: half of them have PhDs, and they're like brilliant women 49 00:02:33,664 --> 00:02:36,504 Speaker 2: and they're just being judged for like how they look, 50 00:02:36,744 --> 00:02:38,704 Speaker 2: and like how they dance, and how high they can 51 00:02:38,824 --> 00:02:40,864 Speaker 2: kick and how fast they can kick and how quickly 52 00:02:40,904 --> 00:02:44,344 Speaker 2: they can do a jump split. It went absolutely viral, 53 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:47,184 Speaker 2: so it was like in the top ten of Netflix 54 00:02:47,304 --> 00:02:50,544 Speaker 2: Top series worldwide for a while, like in the US 55 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:52,904 Speaker 2: was five weeks. In the first four days of it 56 00:02:52,984 --> 00:02:56,504 Speaker 2: coming out, it had two point three million views. It 57 00:02:56,584 --> 00:02:59,464 Speaker 2: was absolutely brilliant. It went viral on TikTok as you know, 58 00:02:59,584 --> 00:03:01,824 Speaker 2: Like I mean, we're Australian, so we knew Thunderstruck was 59 00:03:01,864 --> 00:03:03,864 Speaker 2: a great song. But I feel like this really took 60 00:03:03,904 --> 00:03:07,624 Speaker 2: Thunderstruck in a whole new life, especially for younger audiences. 61 00:03:08,064 --> 00:03:11,184 Speaker 2: It really like encapsulated how something that I feel like, 62 00:03:11,464 --> 00:03:14,544 Speaker 2: especially our generation of women, kind of put down I 63 00:03:14,584 --> 00:03:17,384 Speaker 2: feel like that's a fair thing to say, like putting 64 00:03:17,424 --> 00:03:20,544 Speaker 2: down any type of industry that women are in that 65 00:03:20,944 --> 00:03:23,064 Speaker 2: has to do with their physical appearance, and it just 66 00:03:23,144 --> 00:03:25,224 Speaker 2: kind of gave it a new light and shows like 67 00:03:25,624 --> 00:03:27,744 Speaker 2: the darkness as well as the light of having those 68 00:03:27,784 --> 00:03:28,384 Speaker 2: kind of roles. 69 00:03:28,544 --> 00:03:30,584 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think there's a lot of investment 70 00:03:30,664 --> 00:03:33,144 Speaker 1: in season two because you do think, like, can you 71 00:03:33,224 --> 00:03:36,184 Speaker 1: capture that like lightning in a bottle again of how 72 00:03:36,384 --> 00:03:39,064 Speaker 1: you know, addicted everyone was to this series and these stories, 73 00:03:39,144 --> 00:03:41,104 Speaker 1: so we didn't know these women, and I think, like, 74 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:44,144 Speaker 1: maybe it won't have the same Oh, look, it probably will, 75 00:03:44,144 --> 00:03:45,544 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you'll have the same kind 76 00:03:45,544 --> 00:03:47,544 Speaker 1: of awe factor because we kind of know the ropes 77 00:03:47,584 --> 00:03:50,024 Speaker 1: a bit now. But what we do have is carry 78 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:53,104 Speaker 1: over characters that I think people will be really invested 79 00:03:53,144 --> 00:03:56,064 Speaker 1: in because two really big names from the first season 80 00:03:56,264 --> 00:03:59,224 Speaker 1: were Kelly and Charlie, who were going trying to be 81 00:03:59,304 --> 00:04:01,424 Speaker 1: like rookies and get into the squad for the first time, 82 00:04:01,744 --> 00:04:04,384 Speaker 1: and we followed them very extensively, even like going to 83 00:04:04,464 --> 00:04:07,624 Speaker 1: like Kelly's hometown and like seeing that her parents like 84 00:04:07,704 --> 00:04:10,184 Speaker 1: stayed together to like so they could afford to like 85 00:04:10,464 --> 00:04:12,424 Speaker 1: her dance lessons so that she could be a Dallas 86 00:04:12,504 --> 00:04:14,904 Speaker 1: Cowboys cheerleader, which I still find absolutely wild, but I 87 00:04:14,944 --> 00:04:17,944 Speaker 1: guess very heartwarming. And then Kelly and Charlie were both 88 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,744 Speaker 1: cut at the last minute. And when the announcement of 89 00:04:20,784 --> 00:04:22,904 Speaker 1: the News Squad came out this year, do remember in 90 00:04:22,944 --> 00:04:25,704 Speaker 1: the office, we treated it like breaking news. We yelped, 91 00:04:25,904 --> 00:04:28,544 Speaker 1: everyone was screaming, and everyone was just combing through that 92 00:04:28,624 --> 00:04:31,184 Speaker 1: photo just looking for those two faces. And when we 93 00:04:31,224 --> 00:04:32,864 Speaker 1: saw they were there, it was a big deal for 94 00:04:32,984 --> 00:04:34,424 Speaker 1: us and like for all the fans of the show. 95 00:04:34,864 --> 00:04:36,944 Speaker 1: And I think now it'll kind of be like watching 96 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:39,664 Speaker 1: that process back. And I'm sure there's also people from 97 00:04:39,664 --> 00:04:41,784 Speaker 1: the last squad who didn't make it onto this one. 98 00:04:41,904 --> 00:04:44,704 Speaker 1: There'll be news stories, there'll be new controversies because. 99 00:04:44,504 --> 00:04:47,864 Speaker 2: Mad these rookies and stuff. They'll have like massive fan bases. 100 00:04:48,464 --> 00:04:50,704 Speaker 1: And a lot of there's so many women on that 101 00:04:50,784 --> 00:04:53,104 Speaker 1: squad who I'm sure have really interesting stories who we 102 00:04:53,144 --> 00:04:55,144 Speaker 1: didn't get to see the first time, just because a 103 00:04:55,184 --> 00:04:57,384 Speaker 1: lot of the big players this time, like Kelsey and 104 00:04:57,464 --> 00:05:01,064 Speaker 1: Victoria and Claire are all didn't return for this season, 105 00:05:01,104 --> 00:05:01,544 Speaker 1: so it's. 106 00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:04,144 Speaker 2: A lot of rockett I hope we get a sideshow 107 00:05:04,864 --> 00:05:05,784 Speaker 2: rocket endeavors. 108 00:05:06,064 --> 00:05:07,824 Speaker 1: Oh, I would like I feel like she it's not 109 00:05:07,824 --> 00:05:10,144 Speaker 1: that long till now, so she gets a reality show 110 00:05:10,144 --> 00:05:11,784 Speaker 1: of her own, to be honest, because there was so 111 00:05:11,864 --> 00:05:14,704 Speaker 1: much drama and fallout from all the interviews she did 112 00:05:14,744 --> 00:05:17,384 Speaker 1: after the show aired, with her saying that she hadn't 113 00:05:17,384 --> 00:05:19,384 Speaker 1: spoken to Kelly, who's the coach of the team, with 114 00:05:19,424 --> 00:05:20,984 Speaker 1: her saying she hadn't talked to the girls and the 115 00:05:20,984 --> 00:05:23,544 Speaker 1: team they've been doing appearances without her, and then the 116 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:26,024 Speaker 1: whole drama about her birthday party where on the Netflix 117 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:28,384 Speaker 1: show it looks like none of them turned up and 118 00:05:28,504 --> 00:05:30,584 Speaker 1: it's the first time you saw them break this character 119 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,424 Speaker 1: of like we're all sisters, because you had like Claire 120 00:05:33,544 --> 00:05:36,184 Speaker 1: and Kelsey and all like the main players putting out 121 00:05:36,224 --> 00:05:38,504 Speaker 1: statements saying that that wasn't true. 122 00:05:38,184 --> 00:05:40,864 Speaker 2: Which I think will be what I'm really interested about 123 00:05:40,904 --> 00:05:43,504 Speaker 2: in this next season is like, now these women have 124 00:05:43,624 --> 00:05:46,704 Speaker 2: their own power to them, Like the virility of the 125 00:05:46,744 --> 00:05:49,824 Speaker 2: first season has given so many of these women like 126 00:05:50,024 --> 00:05:52,784 Speaker 2: millions of followers, and they've been on podcasts and they've 127 00:05:52,824 --> 00:05:56,544 Speaker 2: been doing interviews and they can honestly hold their own now, 128 00:05:56,664 --> 00:05:59,064 Speaker 2: and I think that power dynamic will come into play 129 00:05:59,104 --> 00:05:59,744 Speaker 2: in the same d Yeah. 130 00:05:59,784 --> 00:06:01,424 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, I'm excited. 131 00:06:01,464 --> 00:06:03,184 Speaker 2: So that will be coming out. We definitely will be 132 00:06:03,184 --> 00:06:05,384 Speaker 2: talking about it when it is out, and if you 133 00:06:05,464 --> 00:06:07,744 Speaker 2: want to listen to our Brilliance review of season one, 134 00:06:07,744 --> 00:06:16,224 Speaker 2: we will link that in the show notes. God, well, 135 00:06:17,904 --> 00:06:21,464 Speaker 2: it is time. It is time. I am about to 136 00:06:21,544 --> 00:06:23,784 Speaker 2: embark on a review for Gladiator two. 137 00:06:24,184 --> 00:06:25,984 Speaker 1: And this is so red hot, guys, we couldn't even 138 00:06:25,984 --> 00:06:28,384 Speaker 1: save it for Friday weekend watch. We had the embargo 139 00:06:28,464 --> 00:06:30,384 Speaker 1: lifted at one am today. I should have called you 140 00:06:30,384 --> 00:06:31,864 Speaker 1: at one am and been like, get on the mic, 141 00:06:32,264 --> 00:06:33,024 Speaker 1: even like. 142 00:06:32,944 --> 00:06:35,344 Speaker 2: This is one hundred percent my weekend watch of the week. 143 00:06:35,464 --> 00:06:39,024 Speaker 2: But also like with this review today, do not worry. 144 00:06:39,064 --> 00:06:41,104 Speaker 2: You don't need to fast forward or anything because I'm 145 00:06:41,104 --> 00:06:43,184 Speaker 2: not going to be giving you any plot points. We're 146 00:06:43,224 --> 00:06:45,824 Speaker 2: not going to be dissecting the actual film. We will 147 00:06:45,824 --> 00:06:49,184 Speaker 2: be next week for our briolely onst review of Gladiator two. 148 00:06:49,464 --> 00:06:51,584 Speaker 2: So make sure you watch it now because it's out 149 00:06:51,624 --> 00:06:53,464 Speaker 2: right now. Make sure you watch it between now and 150 00:06:53,624 --> 00:06:56,384 Speaker 2: next Friday, not this coming on the next one. We're 151 00:06:56,424 --> 00:06:57,424 Speaker 2: giving you plenty of time. 152 00:06:57,624 --> 00:06:59,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, go to the cinema and watch this please, Like, 153 00:06:59,864 --> 00:07:01,704 Speaker 1: first of all, not to step on your review, but 154 00:07:02,024 --> 00:07:03,904 Speaker 1: it's a good movie. Well, you'll have a fun time. 155 00:07:03,944 --> 00:07:06,624 Speaker 1: But also Emily and I there are things, there is 156 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:09,104 Speaker 1: moments from this movie that I think have burned into 157 00:07:09,144 --> 00:07:10,944 Speaker 1: my brain for the rest of my life. And even 158 00:07:10,944 --> 00:07:12,984 Speaker 1: though we were sitting separately because the crush of people 159 00:07:13,024 --> 00:07:15,704 Speaker 1: was too intense, I feel like we were both screaming 160 00:07:15,984 --> 00:07:18,664 Speaker 1: and yelling at different times. And so there's parts of 161 00:07:18,664 --> 00:07:20,224 Speaker 1: this movie that we need to dissect. But we're going 162 00:07:20,304 --> 00:07:22,744 Speaker 1: to do it now brutally honest reviews. So no spoilers here, 163 00:07:22,784 --> 00:07:24,304 Speaker 1: but just no, that's coming. 164 00:07:24,624 --> 00:07:27,024 Speaker 2: Okay, So I just want to give you a little 165 00:07:27,504 --> 00:07:31,064 Speaker 2: kind of outline review of how I felt about, Okay, 166 00:07:31,104 --> 00:07:33,144 Speaker 2: this movie. Should we talk about the premiere first? 167 00:07:33,184 --> 00:07:33,344 Speaker 1: Oh? 168 00:07:33,384 --> 00:07:37,704 Speaker 2: Sure, I was grateful enough, privileged enough, some might say, 169 00:07:37,744 --> 00:07:40,344 Speaker 2: to get my own tickets. And because I'm a kind. 170 00:07:40,104 --> 00:07:41,344 Speaker 1: Old they grow up so fast. 171 00:07:41,704 --> 00:07:44,504 Speaker 2: Because I'm a kind person, I decided to bring our 172 00:07:44,624 --> 00:07:47,664 Speaker 2: video producer Julian with me. It was his first premiere. 173 00:07:47,784 --> 00:07:49,664 Speaker 1: That's really nice of you to take him, because that 174 00:07:49,784 --> 00:07:51,784 Speaker 1: man has to edit a lot of our videos and 175 00:07:51,864 --> 00:07:53,784 Speaker 1: the things he must hear and the things he must see. 176 00:07:53,824 --> 00:07:55,864 Speaker 2: So we went to Gladiator. There was a group of 177 00:07:55,944 --> 00:07:59,344 Speaker 2: us that went together because I'm on the spill. I 178 00:07:59,344 --> 00:08:00,824 Speaker 2: was kind of the leader of the group, kind of 179 00:08:00,824 --> 00:08:02,464 Speaker 2: like those tall guides that hold up the science. 180 00:08:03,384 --> 00:08:05,784 Speaker 1: So that was me because normally I feel like I 181 00:08:05,824 --> 00:08:07,464 Speaker 1: had to take that burden on. You have the height 182 00:08:07,504 --> 00:08:10,304 Speaker 1: for it, and I don't need everyone can see me. 183 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:12,624 Speaker 1: But we did get separated because it was so intense, 184 00:08:12,624 --> 00:08:14,104 Speaker 1: so we both sat with different groups, so it was 185 00:08:14,184 --> 00:08:14,824 Speaker 1: very intense. 186 00:08:14,904 --> 00:08:17,344 Speaker 2: The first mistake I made was I made my group 187 00:08:17,424 --> 00:08:18,304 Speaker 2: join the wrong line. 188 00:08:18,784 --> 00:08:19,784 Speaker 1: No rookie error. 189 00:08:19,864 --> 00:08:21,144 Speaker 2: You were in a line and they were like, oh, 190 00:08:21,304 --> 00:08:23,144 Speaker 2: We're like I can't really see much from here, and 191 00:08:23,184 --> 00:08:25,264 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, sorry, and then I realized, oh wait, 192 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:27,704 Speaker 2: when meant to be at the front. Yes, So we 193 00:08:27,744 --> 00:08:29,544 Speaker 2: came to the front. Everyone was there. They're like, where 194 00:08:29,584 --> 00:08:32,904 Speaker 2: are you guys? So sorry, we got there. I forced 195 00:08:32,984 --> 00:08:35,464 Speaker 2: Julian to kind of like find our seats straight away. 196 00:08:35,904 --> 00:08:37,304 Speaker 1: That's what you do. You go in, you get the 197 00:08:37,304 --> 00:08:39,464 Speaker 1: good seats, you put your stuff down, you put first 198 00:08:39,544 --> 00:08:41,584 Speaker 1: round of drinks down, you go out, you get second 199 00:08:41,664 --> 00:08:43,264 Speaker 1: round of drinks. You come back in, you set all 200 00:08:43,264 --> 00:08:45,464 Speaker 1: your little drinks up because they're only a little small champagne, 201 00:08:45,504 --> 00:08:47,144 Speaker 1: so it's like two set of drinks for the movie 202 00:08:47,544 --> 00:08:49,104 Speaker 1: and then you settle in your seat and then you 203 00:08:49,104 --> 00:08:50,304 Speaker 1: can do your Instagram and stuff. 204 00:08:50,344 --> 00:08:53,704 Speaker 2: Anyway, So that was a whole big thing about the premiere. 205 00:08:53,784 --> 00:08:55,864 Speaker 2: We got to watch our social producers we have talked 206 00:08:55,864 --> 00:08:58,584 Speaker 2: about live and how she just located it at the premier. 207 00:08:59,064 --> 00:09:01,184 Speaker 2: She's okay, I don't want to get into that. If 208 00:09:01,224 --> 00:09:02,984 Speaker 2: you want to hear about that, we'll link that episode 209 00:09:03,024 --> 00:09:03,904 Speaker 2: in the show no, and we'll. 210 00:09:03,824 --> 00:09:06,024 Speaker 1: Link ovideo where you can actually see the moment she 211 00:09:06,104 --> 00:09:08,984 Speaker 1: falls over and crushes her shoulder and dislocates. 212 00:09:08,624 --> 00:09:12,384 Speaker 2: The bat check a warning. So she was interviewing Paul Mescal. 213 00:09:12,464 --> 00:09:15,304 Speaker 2: We saw Paul Mescal a few times walking in, except 214 00:09:15,304 --> 00:09:18,104 Speaker 2: the security guards wanted us to move along, and we're like, fine, 215 00:09:18,104 --> 00:09:21,064 Speaker 2: I respect that. We sat down and the cast came out, 216 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,304 Speaker 2: who were traveling here for the premiere. They did like 217 00:09:23,304 --> 00:09:25,584 Speaker 2: their little speeches, the little q and as, and when 218 00:09:25,624 --> 00:09:26,384 Speaker 2: we got into. 219 00:09:26,144 --> 00:09:28,424 Speaker 1: The film, yes, okay, and now we find that everyone's 220 00:09:28,464 --> 00:09:29,984 Speaker 1: just like I can just se everyone's screaming at their 221 00:09:29,984 --> 00:09:31,784 Speaker 1: phone or their car ready or whatever they're listening to, 222 00:09:31,944 --> 00:09:32,984 Speaker 1: being like, get to the review. 223 00:09:33,104 --> 00:09:35,104 Speaker 2: What did you think of the movie? I don't care, 224 00:09:35,304 --> 00:09:38,624 Speaker 2: what did you think of moviem So I was talking 225 00:09:38,624 --> 00:09:40,544 Speaker 2: to Julian. He says it was a should. 226 00:09:40,304 --> 00:09:41,744 Speaker 1: We get julete in here? Is he going to get 227 00:09:41,744 --> 00:09:42,104 Speaker 1: through here? 228 00:09:42,264 --> 00:09:45,544 Speaker 2: He said it was a three act structure. I told 229 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:47,784 Speaker 2: you that, but okay, okay, so you and Julian both 230 00:09:47,784 --> 00:09:49,504 Speaker 2: told me that, so I wanted that to be clear. 231 00:09:49,784 --> 00:09:51,184 Speaker 2: He was like, I wasn't too sure what happened with 232 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:52,264 Speaker 2: the second act, and I was like, I don't know 233 00:09:52,304 --> 00:09:54,224 Speaker 2: what you're talking about. It was a three act structure. 234 00:09:54,824 --> 00:09:59,144 Speaker 2: It's a very action gory movie. So if you have 235 00:09:59,224 --> 00:10:03,704 Speaker 2: a thing with blood, beheading, cutting limbs off. 236 00:10:03,744 --> 00:10:06,544 Speaker 1: But like, if you've watched Game of Thrones, you'll be fine. 237 00:10:06,664 --> 00:10:10,784 Speaker 1: It's a very similar says Glorious. 238 00:10:10,384 --> 00:10:13,104 Speaker 2: Game of Throat. Yeah, they don't like hone in on it, 239 00:10:13,424 --> 00:10:16,504 Speaker 2: but it's very actioning. It's a lot of angry men yelling. 240 00:10:16,704 --> 00:10:19,024 Speaker 2: I wish there were subtitles. There was a lot of 241 00:10:19,024 --> 00:10:19,984 Speaker 2: dialogue that I missed. 242 00:10:20,944 --> 00:10:22,664 Speaker 1: You're like, Cao's that guy. It's like it's his dad. 243 00:10:23,424 --> 00:10:26,584 Speaker 3: The plot is the plot of what I would say 244 00:10:26,664 --> 00:10:31,784 Speaker 3: is a typical action movie where it starts off understandable 245 00:10:32,064 --> 00:10:35,824 Speaker 3: and then they just lose all control and meaning. 246 00:10:35,624 --> 00:10:37,704 Speaker 1: Oh really, I actually thought the plot was like quite 247 00:10:37,744 --> 00:10:39,944 Speaker 1: an interesting kind of three line. So you start with Paul, 248 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:41,384 Speaker 1: I'm trying to definitely trying to keep you on track. 249 00:10:41,424 --> 00:10:44,664 Speaker 2: He sorry, we started with Paul, who plays Lucius and 250 00:10:44,864 --> 00:10:47,904 Speaker 2: he and what's happening right now is like it's a 251 00:10:48,224 --> 00:10:52,624 Speaker 2: twelve years after the first Gladiator film where Maximus played 252 00:10:52,664 --> 00:10:56,904 Speaker 2: by Russell Crowe, wanted to destroy the Roman Empire. Look, 253 00:10:56,944 --> 00:10:57,664 Speaker 2: it didn't work out. 254 00:10:58,704 --> 00:10:59,304 Speaker 1: Spoileralers. 255 00:10:59,464 --> 00:11:05,224 Speaker 2: He's now dead. The string belonged to Maximus, no, I 256 00:11:05,344 --> 00:11:06,064 Speaker 2: give it to you. 257 00:11:07,384 --> 00:11:08,024 Speaker 1: What is there? 258 00:11:08,384 --> 00:11:11,584 Speaker 4: From people free? 259 00:11:13,384 --> 00:11:16,184 Speaker 2: The Roman Empire is still trying to take over all 260 00:11:16,264 --> 00:11:20,104 Speaker 2: the surrounding countries and villages, and they're attacking all these people, 261 00:11:20,744 --> 00:11:25,144 Speaker 2: killing everyone and enslaving the strong men to fight as 262 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:29,264 Speaker 2: gladiators for everyone else's entertainment. That's basically what happens to Paul. 263 00:11:29,264 --> 00:11:31,864 Speaker 2: So he's living outside of Rome. He hates the Romans. 264 00:11:31,904 --> 00:11:33,984 Speaker 2: He's like, I want to kill the Romans. One drive 265 00:11:33,984 --> 00:11:36,744 Speaker 2: in life which I wish I had, was to kill 266 00:11:36,744 --> 00:11:38,784 Speaker 2: the Romans. I wish I was as passionate about something 267 00:11:38,824 --> 00:11:42,584 Speaker 2: as Paul is about killing these Romans. So what happens 268 00:11:42,704 --> 00:11:44,544 Speaker 2: is I think he manifested that because then the Romans 269 00:11:44,584 --> 00:11:45,464 Speaker 2: come into his village. 270 00:11:45,704 --> 00:11:47,864 Speaker 1: Yes, and then he kind of becomes out. We won't 271 00:11:47,864 --> 00:11:49,824 Speaker 1: spoiled too much, but going to but. 272 00:11:50,024 --> 00:11:53,344 Speaker 2: His village and his like area. They lose that fight 273 00:11:53,544 --> 00:11:56,464 Speaker 2: and they imprisoned Paul. I'm going to call them Paul 274 00:11:56,464 --> 00:11:58,504 Speaker 2: throughout this whole thing. Okay, I know his name is Lucis, 275 00:11:58,504 --> 00:12:01,184 Speaker 2: but Paul. My name changes throughout the movies. The Navy 276 00:12:01,224 --> 00:12:01,744 Speaker 2: does change. 277 00:12:01,784 --> 00:12:04,344 Speaker 1: Do be careful about that little plot twist. 278 00:12:04,464 --> 00:12:07,704 Speaker 2: His name changes. He gets in prison as a gladiator. 279 00:12:08,064 --> 00:12:10,824 Speaker 2: The owner of the Gladiators is Denzel Washington. 280 00:12:11,184 --> 00:12:11,264 Speaker 1: Like. 281 00:12:11,344 --> 00:12:14,144 Speaker 2: His whole job is to make money from these men 282 00:12:14,224 --> 00:12:18,584 Speaker 2: fighting that are usually slaves and prisoners, and the gladiator's 283 00:12:18,904 --> 00:12:22,664 Speaker 2: job is to go into these big, big fights and 284 00:12:22,704 --> 00:12:25,144 Speaker 2: if they win the fight, then they can slowly move 285 00:12:25,224 --> 00:12:27,064 Speaker 2: up the ranks and then their end goal is to 286 00:12:27,104 --> 00:12:28,704 Speaker 2: finally be released as free men. 287 00:12:28,944 --> 00:12:33,504 Speaker 1: Yes, they arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators 288 00:12:33,504 --> 00:12:36,024 Speaker 1: into free men. You have something. 289 00:12:36,984 --> 00:12:42,544 Speaker 2: I knew it from the start, did you now? So 290 00:12:44,704 --> 00:12:47,264 Speaker 2: from then on you're just watching these men fight each other. 291 00:12:47,344 --> 00:12:49,224 Speaker 1: Which is why people go I've seen a lot of 292 00:12:49,304 --> 00:12:51,744 Speaker 1: kind of because obviously the full written reviews and like 293 00:12:51,744 --> 00:12:54,744 Speaker 1: full podcast reviews like ours were embargoed until today, but 294 00:12:54,904 --> 00:12:58,064 Speaker 1: you could give social reactions and top line reactions that 295 00:12:58,064 --> 00:12:59,904 Speaker 1: sort of thing. And a lot of people have been 296 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:02,544 Speaker 1: calling it Barbie for men in terms of like giving 297 00:13:02,584 --> 00:13:04,744 Speaker 1: them scenes that they might like and like moments to 298 00:13:04,824 --> 00:13:05,304 Speaker 1: cheer for it. 299 00:13:05,304 --> 00:13:08,464 Speaker 2: All that Barbie for women, yeah. 300 00:13:07,984 --> 00:13:10,104 Speaker 1: But also all the hot men. But a just I 301 00:13:10,104 --> 00:13:11,984 Speaker 1: guess like a lot of people might be looking at 302 00:13:11,984 --> 00:13:14,544 Speaker 1: and thinking that it's more of a especially because the 303 00:13:14,544 --> 00:13:15,984 Speaker 1: way they tried to market it and sell it and 304 00:13:16,024 --> 00:13:17,904 Speaker 1: talk about it that it was this very kind of 305 00:13:17,944 --> 00:13:21,624 Speaker 1: prestige film and it was amazing, you know, storytelling and 306 00:13:21,664 --> 00:13:24,744 Speaker 1: these deep character arcs and like, yes, there's a real 307 00:13:24,784 --> 00:13:27,664 Speaker 1: element of that, but at its core, as you were 308 00:13:27,664 --> 00:13:32,704 Speaker 1: saying before, this is like an action, popcorn, blockbuster, schmaltzy movie. 309 00:13:32,864 --> 00:13:33,504 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 310 00:13:33,704 --> 00:13:37,104 Speaker 1: It's great with top top tier actors in it. So 311 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:39,304 Speaker 1: sometimes you got I think you get lulled into this 312 00:13:39,384 --> 00:13:42,664 Speaker 1: idea that, oh, I'm watching this really prestige drama and 313 00:13:42,744 --> 00:13:46,184 Speaker 1: then when you actually look at the plot twist of 314 00:13:46,224 --> 00:13:49,064 Speaker 1: the movie making and some of the cgi scenes, like 315 00:13:49,104 --> 00:13:50,424 Speaker 1: oh no, no, this is made for. 316 00:13:50,464 --> 00:13:55,344 Speaker 2: Like it's wow, like a Marvel or yeah, you're right, 317 00:13:55,624 --> 00:13:58,584 Speaker 2: but there is some political elements. I will give him that. 318 00:13:59,144 --> 00:14:01,424 Speaker 2: We have Pedro Pascal, who I think is the best 319 00:14:01,464 --> 00:14:01,664 Speaker 2: in this. 320 00:14:01,944 --> 00:14:06,104 Speaker 1: He was amazing, pot so but also layered. 321 00:14:06,624 --> 00:14:10,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the chief of the Roman army, so you 322 00:14:10,384 --> 00:14:14,384 Speaker 2: can just imagine what imagine what he's wearing. I imagine 323 00:14:14,384 --> 00:14:16,584 Speaker 2: what he's wearing and how he's fighting. He's a chief, 324 00:14:16,744 --> 00:14:19,824 Speaker 2: he can't be stopped. We then also have Joseph Quinn 325 00:14:19,904 --> 00:14:22,824 Speaker 2: who we love from Stranger Things, and Fred Heckinger who 326 00:14:22,824 --> 00:14:25,784 Speaker 2: we love from White Lotus play the Emperor Brothers. They 327 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:28,744 Speaker 2: were so good, incredible. 328 00:14:28,384 --> 00:14:30,784 Speaker 1: You know how you know that an actor is incredible 329 00:14:30,784 --> 00:14:34,184 Speaker 1: at their performance. I hated them. I hated them. So 330 00:14:34,224 --> 00:14:36,104 Speaker 1: it was like the time. That's hard to do because 331 00:14:36,104 --> 00:14:37,344 Speaker 1: that hinged. 332 00:14:37,184 --> 00:14:39,744 Speaker 2: Like terror because you're like, I actually don't know what 333 00:14:39,784 --> 00:14:40,664 Speaker 2: these two might do. 334 00:14:40,904 --> 00:14:42,864 Speaker 1: That's a scary thing. It's like there's a lot of 335 00:14:42,944 --> 00:14:43,784 Speaker 1: villains and movies. 336 00:14:43,824 --> 00:14:44,744 Speaker 2: It's worse than evil. 337 00:14:44,904 --> 00:14:47,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, are quite scary because they you know, they are 338 00:14:47,344 --> 00:14:49,344 Speaker 1: trying to kill people for some reason, or they're trying 339 00:14:49,384 --> 00:14:51,504 Speaker 1: to you know, take over something, but least as a 340 00:14:51,584 --> 00:14:53,984 Speaker 1: rhyme and a reason to what they're doing. Whereas these 341 00:14:54,024 --> 00:14:57,824 Speaker 1: two are just like drunk, both literally and figuratively on 342 00:14:58,184 --> 00:15:00,584 Speaker 1: power and bloodthirst and bortom. 343 00:15:00,944 --> 00:15:03,784 Speaker 2: It's exactly that's what reminded me of Game of Thrones, 344 00:15:03,824 --> 00:15:06,384 Speaker 2: because these two don't want to watch these men die 345 00:15:06,424 --> 00:15:08,144 Speaker 2: because I hate their men. They want these men to 346 00:15:08,184 --> 00:15:09,704 Speaker 2: die because they find joy in it. 347 00:15:09,624 --> 00:15:11,064 Speaker 1: And because they have not thing else going on in 348 00:15:11,144 --> 00:15:12,704 Speaker 1: their lives, and so they just want to watch this 349 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:14,704 Speaker 1: like sadistic terror every day. 350 00:15:14,864 --> 00:15:16,984 Speaker 2: Because Pedro Pascal is so good at this job. 351 00:15:16,784 --> 00:15:19,704 Speaker 1: It's working too much. I've got nothing to do. 352 00:15:20,144 --> 00:15:21,864 Speaker 2: Oh my god. The worst kind of nepo baby. 353 00:15:21,904 --> 00:15:24,024 Speaker 1: It's what happens when you you're too high achieve at 354 00:15:24,024 --> 00:15:28,344 Speaker 1: work is that your bosses go crazy because they're trying 355 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:29,544 Speaker 1: to think of more task for you to do. 356 00:15:29,784 --> 00:15:32,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pedro Pascal, he did get a performance review in 357 00:15:32,184 --> 00:15:39,104 Speaker 2: the end. A little spoiler. We also have Connie Nielsen 358 00:15:39,144 --> 00:15:42,024 Speaker 2: who reprises her role in the second film. She had 359 00:15:42,064 --> 00:15:43,864 Speaker 2: a huge role in the first film as big in 360 00:15:43,904 --> 00:15:45,984 Speaker 2: the second one, she had I think a lot of 361 00:15:46,024 --> 00:15:49,224 Speaker 2: the deep kind of dialogue like she was the character 362 00:15:49,304 --> 00:15:52,664 Speaker 2: that pieced it all together. Kind of Yeah, absolutely nailed it. Also, 363 00:15:52,864 --> 00:15:55,744 Speaker 2: the scenery in this film is so beautiful. 364 00:15:55,944 --> 00:15:57,064 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a nice thing for you. 365 00:15:57,384 --> 00:16:01,544 Speaker 5: Think likes and the buildings, and no, I was looking 366 00:16:01,544 --> 00:16:04,424 Speaker 5: at the blood spattered bodies and the disease, and that 367 00:16:04,544 --> 00:16:06,184 Speaker 5: everyone else had, like I think a lot of people 368 00:16:06,224 --> 00:16:09,184 Speaker 5: had historically accurate teeth, Like everyone had rotting teeth, except 369 00:16:09,224 --> 00:16:11,624 Speaker 5: poor Mescal, who also a bit of a slave and 370 00:16:11,664 --> 00:16:13,064 Speaker 5: opened it up and had perfect teeth. 371 00:16:13,104 --> 00:16:14,544 Speaker 1: And I was like that, boy's like, I will give 372 00:16:14,624 --> 00:16:16,064 Speaker 1: up a lot for this role. I won't give up 373 00:16:16,064 --> 00:16:16,424 Speaker 1: my teeth. 374 00:16:16,464 --> 00:16:20,584 Speaker 2: Everyone kept their own accents. Not only will we not 375 00:16:20,704 --> 00:16:23,264 Speaker 2: do Roman accents, but no one will do any accent. 376 00:16:23,424 --> 00:16:25,504 Speaker 1: You just gotta suspend disbelieve. That's why I think, I 377 00:16:25,504 --> 00:16:27,744 Speaker 1: think you've got to go into this movie. First of all, 378 00:16:27,824 --> 00:16:31,224 Speaker 1: it's wildly entertaining, which I think is can be hard, 379 00:16:31,304 --> 00:16:33,304 Speaker 1: especially with a blockbuster and a pacing like it's also 380 00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:35,984 Speaker 1: a long movie. It's only three hours long, and so, 381 00:16:36,264 --> 00:16:38,944 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like overly I mean, I'm sure 382 00:16:38,984 --> 00:16:40,624 Speaker 1: they could have made a few cuts. It doesn't feel 383 00:16:40,664 --> 00:16:44,224 Speaker 1: overly bloated. It's super action packed. The story moves really fast. 384 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:49,104 Speaker 1: It's really trying to create a spectacle, which I was 385 00:16:49,184 --> 00:16:51,624 Speaker 1: quite thankful for. And a lot of the performances are 386 00:16:51,704 --> 00:16:54,944 Speaker 1: very silly and campy and over the top, but I 387 00:16:54,944 --> 00:16:57,224 Speaker 1: think it just works because everyone feels it they're in 388 00:16:57,224 --> 00:17:00,184 Speaker 1: the same movie, except for maybe Pedro feels like he's 389 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:03,304 Speaker 1: in a slightly more serious indie movie. But at the 390 00:17:03,424 --> 00:17:05,544 Speaker 1: end of the day, there's just all killing each other 391 00:17:05,544 --> 00:17:08,584 Speaker 1: with swords and whatnot. Shout out to the monkeys for 392 00:17:08,664 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 1: my favorite part. 393 00:17:09,664 --> 00:17:13,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, monkey did have a quite interesting role. So 394 00:17:13,104 --> 00:17:16,144 Speaker 2: the movie comes out this Thursday. Make sure you go 395 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:18,824 Speaker 2: watch it just in time for our brutally honest review 396 00:17:19,024 --> 00:17:21,824 Speaker 2: next week. We're gonna fully make you like, sit down 397 00:17:21,824 --> 00:17:23,504 Speaker 2: and grab a popcorn. It's gonna be a good one. 398 00:17:23,504 --> 00:17:26,464 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a long one. Kimberly, our producer, she 399 00:17:26,504 --> 00:17:28,184 Speaker 2: allows us to have a long one. But we are 400 00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:30,904 Speaker 2: very very excited because I actually have so much to 401 00:17:30,984 --> 00:17:31,864 Speaker 2: say about this. 402 00:17:32,024 --> 00:17:34,184 Speaker 1: Oh we've only scratched surface, guys, there's more to say. 403 00:17:35,384 --> 00:17:37,464 Speaker 1: So a lot of Hollywood baby news this week. 404 00:17:37,584 --> 00:17:40,024 Speaker 2: Something's in the water, something in the water and mummere 405 00:17:40,064 --> 00:17:41,584 Speaker 2: as well, a lot of pregnancy news. 406 00:17:41,624 --> 00:17:43,304 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how those two. 407 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:44,384 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the time of year. 408 00:17:45,104 --> 00:17:47,064 Speaker 1: Maybe what happened nine months from now. I don't want 409 00:17:47,064 --> 00:17:51,904 Speaker 1: to know Valentine's time anyway. To kick off the baby news, 410 00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:55,224 Speaker 1: Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger announced the birth of their 411 00:17:55,304 --> 00:17:56,744 Speaker 1: third baby Ford. 412 00:17:57,104 --> 00:17:58,544 Speaker 2: Oh, they're already on their third. 413 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:02,024 Speaker 1: Yes, So they've got little Lilah and little Eloise. And 414 00:18:02,104 --> 00:18:05,064 Speaker 1: also Chris Pratt has his son Jack with his ex 415 00:18:05,104 --> 00:18:07,504 Speaker 1: wife Anna Faris. I missed them, as I do too, 416 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:10,584 Speaker 1: but I feel like she's maybe happier and maybe he 417 00:18:10,624 --> 00:18:12,224 Speaker 1: seems a bit more happy in his life now. I 418 00:18:12,224 --> 00:18:15,144 Speaker 1: don't know. It's so interesting because this is the first 419 00:18:15,144 --> 00:18:17,504 Speaker 1: time I think that he's had like a baby announcement 420 00:18:17,504 --> 00:18:20,144 Speaker 1: of family announcement that hasn't had backlash, which is very 421 00:18:20,144 --> 00:18:20,824 Speaker 1: neat to think about. 422 00:18:20,984 --> 00:18:22,304 Speaker 2: You had backlash for as other kids. 423 00:18:22,624 --> 00:18:26,784 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of a tangled situation because I think 424 00:18:26,824 --> 00:18:29,104 Speaker 1: not so much when he and Catherine got married, I 425 00:18:29,104 --> 00:18:31,144 Speaker 1: mean maybe a little bit there, But there's been times 426 00:18:31,464 --> 00:18:34,104 Speaker 1: Chris Pratt. I'm not defending him, but Chris Pratt seems 427 00:18:34,144 --> 00:18:35,744 Speaker 1: to get like a lot of different backlash when he 428 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:39,904 Speaker 1: posts things about his wife or family because in his soul, 429 00:18:39,984 --> 00:18:41,824 Speaker 1: I think he is a bit of like a tad guy, 430 00:18:42,024 --> 00:18:42,944 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 431 00:18:43,064 --> 00:18:46,144 Speaker 2: And I think so like a newly trad guy. Yeah, 432 00:18:46,144 --> 00:18:49,104 Speaker 2: like I think what was his backlash? The main one 433 00:18:49,144 --> 00:18:52,424 Speaker 2: was he used to be like this fairly loose, relatable, 434 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:55,104 Speaker 2: funny guy, yeah, until he got into this new relationship 435 00:18:55,144 --> 00:18:56,824 Speaker 2: and suddenly changed and switched. 436 00:18:56,984 --> 00:18:59,384 Speaker 1: Yes, He's put like a bit anniversary post for Catherine 437 00:18:59,384 --> 00:19:01,664 Speaker 1: and then was like, you know, look at how adoring 438 00:19:01,704 --> 00:19:03,424 Speaker 1: she's staring at me. It's hard to because I'm sure 439 00:19:03,424 --> 00:19:05,944 Speaker 1: he was joking, but people quite upset, and even like 440 00:19:06,024 --> 00:19:10,184 Speaker 1: her mum posted Marie Shrever Arnold Schwarzeneger's ex wife, was like, okay, now, 441 00:19:10,224 --> 00:19:11,864 Speaker 1: like you put up a photo of you looking at 442 00:19:11,944 --> 00:19:15,024 Speaker 1: her like that, and everyone quite upset. But when when 443 00:19:15,064 --> 00:19:17,024 Speaker 1: this whole thing bubbled up is like he put up 444 00:19:17,064 --> 00:19:20,264 Speaker 1: a post about Catherine a few years ago now and 445 00:19:20,704 --> 00:19:22,624 Speaker 1: was talking about what a great mother and wife she was, 446 00:19:22,624 --> 00:19:25,304 Speaker 1: which which is all lovely, and then he put something 447 00:19:25,344 --> 00:19:28,624 Speaker 1: in there about like delivering him a healthy child, which 448 00:19:28,784 --> 00:19:32,264 Speaker 1: seems just very nice and you know, very surface level. 449 00:19:32,584 --> 00:19:35,184 Speaker 1: But the reason that there was like this huge backlash 450 00:19:35,264 --> 00:19:38,304 Speaker 1: which jumped out of entertainment news and into like mainstream 451 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:39,984 Speaker 1: news because it was on the front page of these 452 00:19:40,024 --> 00:19:42,744 Speaker 1: news sites and people thought he was taking a dig 453 00:19:42,784 --> 00:19:46,064 Speaker 1: at his ex wife Anna Faris, because their son Jack 454 00:19:46,184 --> 00:19:48,144 Speaker 1: was born quite early and had a lot of health 455 00:19:48,144 --> 00:19:49,984 Speaker 1: problems because of that, which they talked about a lot, 456 00:19:49,984 --> 00:19:52,384 Speaker 1: and they got involved with charities and doctors, and Anna 457 00:19:52,424 --> 00:19:54,824 Speaker 1: Faris in particular has done like a lot of interviews. 458 00:19:54,824 --> 00:19:56,344 Speaker 1: I mean they both have, but she's done a lot 459 00:19:56,384 --> 00:19:58,584 Speaker 1: of interviews about it. She talked a lot about her podcast, 460 00:19:58,704 --> 00:20:00,344 Speaker 1: and it was like a thing that I think really 461 00:20:00,424 --> 00:20:03,504 Speaker 1: kind of became yeah, supers for like you know that 462 00:20:03,624 --> 00:20:06,024 Speaker 1: to have your like tiny babies so like sick for 463 00:20:06,064 --> 00:20:08,104 Speaker 1: so long and have like all the years afterwards, have 464 00:20:08,144 --> 00:20:10,664 Speaker 1: all like the health complications that came from that, and 465 00:20:10,744 --> 00:20:13,744 Speaker 1: so people like, is he taking a dig that Catherine 466 00:20:13,784 --> 00:20:16,904 Speaker 1: delivered him to healthy daughters and Anna and him and 467 00:20:17,144 --> 00:20:19,704 Speaker 1: had a different story, which I don't think Anna Faris 468 00:20:19,824 --> 00:20:22,064 Speaker 1: has ever like weigh in on that and why would she? 469 00:20:22,504 --> 00:20:24,104 Speaker 1: And there's been a few times like that where he's 470 00:20:24,104 --> 00:20:26,344 Speaker 1: also put up Mother's Day post for Catherine. He's done 471 00:20:26,344 --> 00:20:28,064 Speaker 1: like a shout out to like all the mothers out there, 472 00:20:28,064 --> 00:20:30,624 Speaker 1: but especially my lovely wife Katherine. And then there's been 473 00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:33,264 Speaker 1: like attacks of people saying like whant you to give 474 00:20:33,264 --> 00:20:34,864 Speaker 1: a shout out to Anna, like she, you know, is 475 00:20:34,864 --> 00:20:37,184 Speaker 1: the mother of your first child. And and the fact 476 00:20:37,224 --> 00:20:39,384 Speaker 1: there's always also been like things of people saying that 477 00:20:39,384 --> 00:20:41,584 Speaker 1: he doesn't post as many photos of Jack or talk 478 00:20:41,584 --> 00:20:43,424 Speaker 1: about them as much as he does with his daughters, 479 00:20:43,664 --> 00:20:45,424 Speaker 1: which I think is one of those things where like 480 00:20:45,464 --> 00:20:48,704 Speaker 1: a parasocial relationship with a celebrity maybe goes a bit 481 00:20:48,744 --> 00:20:51,104 Speaker 1: far because you don't know, like maybe he and Anna 482 00:20:51,224 --> 00:20:53,624 Speaker 1: have a different like set of rules for posting photos 483 00:20:53,624 --> 00:20:56,784 Speaker 1: of their kid, or maybe you don't know and you 484 00:20:56,824 --> 00:20:57,184 Speaker 1: just don't know. 485 00:20:57,264 --> 00:20:58,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird thing to harp on about. 486 00:20:59,144 --> 00:21:01,104 Speaker 1: I think that the tide turned on Chris Pratt a 487 00:21:01,144 --> 00:21:03,104 Speaker 1: little bit. Remember he got voted the worst Chris and 488 00:21:03,144 --> 00:21:05,544 Speaker 1: all the Marvel men jumped in were like, how dare 489 00:21:05,624 --> 00:21:06,944 Speaker 1: you say that? And I was like a lot of 490 00:21:06,944 --> 00:21:09,424 Speaker 1: your female co hosts have been like, you know, attacked 491 00:21:09,424 --> 00:21:10,264 Speaker 1: in public, and you're not. 492 00:21:11,744 --> 00:21:13,864 Speaker 2: Also, Chris, do you want to be the worst Chris? 493 00:21:14,224 --> 00:21:17,264 Speaker 1: Weirdly, the tide just turned against him at a time there, 494 00:21:17,304 --> 00:21:20,224 Speaker 1: And I think because Anna Anna feris is like so beloved, 495 00:21:20,264 --> 00:21:22,704 Speaker 1: it kind of looks like there was something behind the scenes. 496 00:21:22,864 --> 00:21:25,264 Speaker 1: But all that to say is that when they've posted 497 00:21:25,304 --> 00:21:28,184 Speaker 1: the announcement of their new son, Ford, that seems to 498 00:21:28,184 --> 00:21:29,824 Speaker 1: have died off. There's a few comments like that, but 499 00:21:29,824 --> 00:21:31,184 Speaker 1: it seems to have died off a little bit, so 500 00:21:31,184 --> 00:21:33,064 Speaker 1: that's nice. I think let it go now, especially if 501 00:21:33,104 --> 00:21:35,904 Speaker 1: Anna Ferris isn't saying anything about it. And I'm sure 502 00:21:35,984 --> 00:21:39,464 Speaker 1: she's you know, she's remarried. Now she's talking about it. 503 00:21:39,784 --> 00:21:42,304 Speaker 2: We still had the better one. We still had the better. 504 00:21:42,104 --> 00:21:44,384 Speaker 1: Sides, probably like can you stop dragging my name up 505 00:21:44,384 --> 00:21:47,224 Speaker 1: into these headlines? Like she hasn't actually asked for anyone 506 00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:49,584 Speaker 1: to jump as far as I know, like I have read, 507 00:21:49,624 --> 00:21:51,904 Speaker 1: I feel like I know her quite me being PARASOCIALLYBIA. 508 00:21:51,904 --> 00:21:53,784 Speaker 2: Every time he has a teacher's probably like, oh damn it. 509 00:21:53,904 --> 00:21:55,784 Speaker 1: She's probably just like, leave my name out of it 510 00:21:55,824 --> 00:21:57,624 Speaker 1: because she's had to sort of like talk about it 511 00:21:57,664 --> 00:21:59,584 Speaker 1: a lot. And I feel like I know her because 512 00:21:59,584 --> 00:22:01,584 Speaker 1: I've listened to her pods so much, I listened to 513 00:22:01,584 --> 00:22:02,664 Speaker 1: her interviews, and I read her book. 514 00:22:02,864 --> 00:22:04,464 Speaker 2: This is a real relationship. 515 00:22:05,144 --> 00:22:06,824 Speaker 1: I just think she'd be like, please leave me out 516 00:22:06,824 --> 00:22:09,864 Speaker 1: of this conversation. So that happening. Congrats to those two 517 00:22:09,904 --> 00:22:11,744 Speaker 1: crazy kids and their new son, Ford, which I do 518 00:22:11,824 --> 00:22:14,944 Speaker 1: think is a very cute name and then focus a 519 00:22:14,984 --> 00:22:17,584 Speaker 1: lot of solid baby Fords out there and then in 520 00:22:17,704 --> 00:22:20,464 Speaker 1: other really lovely baby news which only was announced to 521 00:22:20,504 --> 00:22:23,704 Speaker 1: Day Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly big question mark 522 00:22:23,744 --> 00:22:25,824 Speaker 1: for a while if they were even together that is. 523 00:22:26,024 --> 00:22:27,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think they were together. 524 00:22:27,264 --> 00:22:29,744 Speaker 1: Well, the last time she spoke publicly about their relationship 525 00:22:29,824 --> 00:22:31,544 Speaker 1: was I think when she did that Call her Daddy 526 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:34,304 Speaker 1: episode and she talked about them always being soul maids 527 00:22:34,384 --> 00:22:37,624 Speaker 1: but they were rethinking what the rest of their relationship 528 00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,984 Speaker 1: looked like together, which kind of made me think they 529 00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:42,584 Speaker 1: were together. But they still engaged or like, I don't know, 530 00:22:42,624 --> 00:22:44,544 Speaker 1: they've been very They went for a while there of 531 00:22:44,584 --> 00:22:47,864 Speaker 1: being like you, very public with all the Instagram posts 532 00:22:47,864 --> 00:22:50,104 Speaker 1: and doing joint interviews together and walking all those red 533 00:22:50,144 --> 00:22:52,504 Speaker 1: carpets together and about how they used to make out 534 00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:54,544 Speaker 1: on the red carpet next to Courtney and Travis. It'd 535 00:22:54,584 --> 00:22:58,464 Speaker 1: be like two people. That was a sexy time. And 536 00:22:58,504 --> 00:23:00,264 Speaker 1: now we haven't seen a lot from them, so there 537 00:23:00,264 --> 00:23:02,384 Speaker 1: was a question mark over where they were together. But 538 00:23:02,544 --> 00:23:05,184 Speaker 1: today she said a very I actually really liked her 539 00:23:05,224 --> 00:23:07,584 Speaker 1: pregnancy announcement. I won't hear a word against it. Did 540 00:23:07,584 --> 00:23:07,944 Speaker 1: you see it? 541 00:23:07,984 --> 00:23:08,544 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. 542 00:23:08,664 --> 00:23:11,744 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So Megan Fox is kind of in black 543 00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:15,704 Speaker 1: like body paint, like sexy black body paint on Instagram. 544 00:23:15,784 --> 00:23:18,624 Speaker 1: And then the second slide is the positive pregnancy test. 545 00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:22,344 Speaker 1: And why it's really beautiful is that it's got one 546 00:23:22,424 --> 00:23:26,064 Speaker 1: of mgk's songs over it, so last November and in 547 00:23:26,104 --> 00:23:29,904 Speaker 1: the caption she says, nothing has ever really lost welcome back. 548 00:23:30,224 --> 00:23:32,744 Speaker 1: And why that's really beautiful is that she had shared 549 00:23:32,744 --> 00:23:36,384 Speaker 1: that she had had a pregnancy loss with MGK previously, 550 00:23:36,744 --> 00:23:39,744 Speaker 1: and in the song last November, he sings, one day, 551 00:23:39,824 --> 00:23:42,104 Speaker 1: another ten weeks, I never even got to hear your 552 00:23:42,104 --> 00:23:42,584 Speaker 1: heart painting. 553 00:23:42,624 --> 00:23:43,984 Speaker 2: Oh that's so sad. 554 00:23:45,664 --> 00:23:52,224 Speaker 4: One day in another ten weeks, I never even got 555 00:23:52,224 --> 00:23:59,344 Speaker 4: to hear r last year. It feels like a pash live. 556 00:23:59,904 --> 00:24:02,504 Speaker 1: So it's like a celebration after, you know, going through 557 00:24:02,504 --> 00:24:05,184 Speaker 1: that loss, that they've now come back together and they're 558 00:24:05,184 --> 00:24:06,184 Speaker 1: welcoming a new baby. 559 00:24:06,224 --> 00:24:07,424 Speaker 2: So this is their first baby together. 560 00:24:07,464 --> 00:24:09,264 Speaker 1: It's their first baby together. So he has a daughter 561 00:24:09,264 --> 00:24:12,024 Speaker 1: from a previous relationship ship and she has three sons 562 00:24:12,024 --> 00:24:14,904 Speaker 1: with Brian Austin Green. Those kids are so cute. They 563 00:24:14,984 --> 00:24:20,264 Speaker 1: look fairies. They're probably older, and they let them get 564 00:24:20,264 --> 00:24:22,224 Speaker 1: photographed a lot when they were little. One of my 565 00:24:22,264 --> 00:24:24,824 Speaker 1: favorite things about Megan Fox is how like she just 566 00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:27,504 Speaker 1: will just not take crap from anyone, like calling her 567 00:24:27,584 --> 00:24:29,384 Speaker 1: out for her bad parenting. And you know, white people 568 00:24:29,424 --> 00:24:31,824 Speaker 1: think she's a bad parent because her sons have long hair. 569 00:24:32,144 --> 00:24:37,544 Speaker 2: Okay, let it go, come on, man, just parcial relationship. 570 00:24:37,584 --> 00:24:40,344 Speaker 1: I know all these people like that her kids are 571 00:24:40,344 --> 00:24:42,584 Speaker 1: so cute. It's like, also, do you really think her 572 00:24:42,624 --> 00:24:44,584 Speaker 1: child's be not looked after because he has his hair long? 573 00:24:44,624 --> 00:24:47,664 Speaker 2: With the kid's like three, Kelly's daughter is so cute. 574 00:24:47,784 --> 00:24:50,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have. I thought in his documentary seeing their 575 00:24:50,224 --> 00:24:56,944 Speaker 1: relationship together was really lovely. It's like, I just think 576 00:24:56,944 --> 00:24:58,944 Speaker 1: when you see an nice side to these people, Yeah, 577 00:24:58,944 --> 00:24:59,464 Speaker 1: it is really nice. 578 00:24:59,504 --> 00:25:01,744 Speaker 2: I think also like the fact that they've come from 579 00:25:01,744 --> 00:25:04,144 Speaker 2: like such a sad play something get like this little 580 00:25:04,224 --> 00:25:05,664 Speaker 2: joy it's just so nice to see. 581 00:25:05,784 --> 00:25:08,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that idea of like nothing is really lost, 582 00:25:08,104 --> 00:25:10,944 Speaker 1: like welcome back. Because they've talked before about how they 583 00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:14,704 Speaker 1: think that their souls have been reincarnated to find each 584 00:25:14,704 --> 00:25:15,904 Speaker 1: other in every lifetime. 585 00:25:16,184 --> 00:25:16,984 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 586 00:25:16,904 --> 00:25:19,224 Speaker 1: This is cute. Alsomely they think that their souls find 587 00:25:19,264 --> 00:25:22,184 Speaker 1: each other in every lifetime. And so when Megan Fox 588 00:25:22,224 --> 00:25:24,664 Speaker 1: first saw Machine Gun Kelly, She's like, I wasn't shocked 589 00:25:24,704 --> 00:25:25,864 Speaker 1: that I met the man I was going to be with, 590 00:25:25,944 --> 00:25:27,664 Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, it's you, Like hey, I 591 00:25:27,704 --> 00:25:29,904 Speaker 1: see you every lifetime. And so she also thinks that 592 00:25:29,984 --> 00:25:32,464 Speaker 1: they had their kids, their kids find them every lifetime, 593 00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:33,864 Speaker 1: which I just don't know if I believe in that, 594 00:25:33,904 --> 00:25:36,264 Speaker 1: but I think it's very sweet day sweet I do, 595 00:25:36,464 --> 00:25:38,144 Speaker 1: all right, So right, you're just not getting on board 596 00:25:38,144 --> 00:25:40,544 Speaker 1: with that magic anyway, congrads to those two crazy kids. 597 00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:43,384 Speaker 1: The other bit of pregnancy use which we haven't touched 598 00:25:43,384 --> 00:25:46,904 Speaker 1: on until now because it's a bit of a complicated one, 599 00:25:47,224 --> 00:25:49,824 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the fact that Margot Robbie and 600 00:25:49,864 --> 00:25:54,384 Speaker 1: her husband Tom Ackley have allegedly, unless that's a stunt baby, 601 00:25:54,544 --> 00:25:55,744 Speaker 1: welcomed their first child. 602 00:25:55,824 --> 00:25:58,184 Speaker 2: Ah, congrats. I feel like she was pregnant for a 603 00:25:58,224 --> 00:25:59,064 Speaker 2: long time. 604 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:01,944 Speaker 1: Well the first time that we were, I guess can't 605 00:26:01,984 --> 00:26:03,704 Speaker 1: really aware that she. I mean that there was those 606 00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:07,264 Speaker 1: phapped a lot, sorry much we talked about as well. 607 00:26:07,424 --> 00:26:09,544 Speaker 1: We've done so many episodes on these pat photos. I 608 00:26:09,584 --> 00:26:12,904 Speaker 1: feel like her whole preg has been just chronicled through 609 00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,304 Speaker 1: pap photos and some red carpet. So she was on 610 00:26:15,344 --> 00:26:17,664 Speaker 1: holiday in Europe and you can just kind of tell 611 00:26:17,664 --> 00:26:19,144 Speaker 1: that she knew she was going to be photographic. She 612 00:26:19,184 --> 00:26:20,224 Speaker 1: was like, what am I going to do, like not 613 00:26:20,304 --> 00:26:22,264 Speaker 1: walk to the beach. It's gonna happen, So she let 614 00:26:22,304 --> 00:26:26,144 Speaker 1: herself be photographed. Those photos went completely viral. That was 615 00:26:26,144 --> 00:26:29,224 Speaker 1: almost the pregnancy announcement, even though she didn't announce it. 616 00:26:29,544 --> 00:26:32,224 Speaker 1: And then she produced the movie My Old Ass, which 617 00:26:32,264 --> 00:26:34,024 Speaker 1: is now in prime video if anyone hasn't seen it. 618 00:26:34,904 --> 00:26:37,104 Speaker 1: Such a good movie. But as we talked about the time, 619 00:26:37,424 --> 00:26:40,224 Speaker 1: that whole movie completely overshadowed by her baby bump on 620 00:26:40,264 --> 00:26:42,584 Speaker 1: the red carpet, and again she never spoke about it, 621 00:26:42,584 --> 00:26:46,144 Speaker 1: she was only photographed. Those photos went completely viral. Then 622 00:26:46,184 --> 00:26:48,184 Speaker 1: she went to a tennis match, I want to say Wimbledon, 623 00:26:48,184 --> 00:26:50,584 Speaker 1: but don't know what it was. All tennis matches look 624 00:26:50,584 --> 00:26:52,384 Speaker 1: the same to me. Again, she's in a public place. 625 00:26:52,384 --> 00:26:54,264 Speaker 1: She obviously doesn't care about being photographed, like she's not 626 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,064 Speaker 1: going to hide away. But then you can see that 627 00:26:57,144 --> 00:26:59,664 Speaker 1: she was getting like quiet, Like there's images of like 628 00:26:59,704 --> 00:27:02,104 Speaker 1: paparazzi like kind of like chasing her car through the 629 00:27:02,104 --> 00:27:05,024 Speaker 1: streets in La and then she went out of sight 630 00:27:05,104 --> 00:27:06,624 Speaker 1: for a long time because I guess she had to 631 00:27:06,784 --> 00:27:09,624 Speaker 1: go into hiding. And I think sometimes people would be like, oh, 632 00:27:09,744 --> 00:27:11,824 Speaker 1: but you know, it can't be that bad. And I 633 00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:13,984 Speaker 1: do think that celebrities could have a certain once you 634 00:27:14,024 --> 00:27:16,424 Speaker 1: have like money and power, you do have a certain 635 00:27:16,424 --> 00:27:19,704 Speaker 1: amount of ability to move around unseen, which is also 636 00:27:19,744 --> 00:27:21,344 Speaker 1: what she's doing. But then I think of someone like 637 00:27:21,424 --> 00:27:23,624 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton, her having to like lie down in the 638 00:27:23,664 --> 00:27:25,344 Speaker 1: back of the car and wear a wig and go 639 00:27:25,464 --> 00:27:28,104 Speaker 1: in and because she knows that that particular hospital, because 640 00:27:28,104 --> 00:27:30,064 Speaker 1: it's where a lot of celebs go, that there's so 641 00:27:30,104 --> 00:27:31,384 Speaker 1: many paparazzi outside. 642 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:32,464 Speaker 2: Gross. 643 00:27:32,744 --> 00:27:34,864 Speaker 1: So I guess like margat Robbie had to kind of 644 00:27:35,024 --> 00:27:37,504 Speaker 1: think about the same thing of like I have to 645 00:27:37,544 --> 00:27:39,384 Speaker 1: like lock myself away. And I wonder if she had 646 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:40,664 Speaker 1: to lie down in the back of a car to 647 00:27:40,664 --> 00:27:42,624 Speaker 1: get to the hospital or something, because she wasn't going 648 00:27:42,624 --> 00:27:45,424 Speaker 1: into the hospital, but the news of her birth was 649 00:27:45,544 --> 00:27:48,104 Speaker 1: leaked against her will. It came out about it like 650 00:27:48,224 --> 00:27:50,104 Speaker 1: over a week ago. I think, now that's fucked up. 651 00:27:50,304 --> 00:27:52,544 Speaker 1: On a Sunday, it just all it gives came up 652 00:27:52,544 --> 00:27:54,704 Speaker 1: their reports that Margaret Robbie had given birth to her 653 00:27:54,704 --> 00:27:57,464 Speaker 1: first child, but she never released a statement, neither of 654 00:27:57,504 --> 00:27:59,744 Speaker 1: them posted about it, neither of their family or friends 655 00:27:59,784 --> 00:28:02,824 Speaker 1: commented on it. And then in the last couple of days, 656 00:28:03,144 --> 00:28:05,304 Speaker 1: there's me in all of these pat photos of her, 657 00:28:05,384 --> 00:28:07,304 Speaker 1: like walking through the streets of la with like a 658 00:28:07,344 --> 00:28:11,504 Speaker 1: family member and Tom and the pram and you can't 659 00:28:11,504 --> 00:28:13,904 Speaker 1: see into the pram, like I mean, thank god, oh 660 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:15,784 Speaker 1: my gosh, that someone's trying to get a camera in there, 661 00:28:16,344 --> 00:28:18,264 Speaker 1: but she you can just I don't know. People are 662 00:28:18,304 --> 00:28:21,784 Speaker 1: like resharing the photos, not us because we don't reshare 663 00:28:21,824 --> 00:28:24,864 Speaker 1: paparazzi photos. But paparazzi photos are a bit of a 664 00:28:24,864 --> 00:28:27,624 Speaker 1: hard thing sometimes because even though like we don't share 665 00:28:27,704 --> 00:28:30,384 Speaker 1: or support them, they're are some paparazzi photos that we 666 00:28:30,464 --> 00:28:33,664 Speaker 1: talk about, Like if it's a celeb like walking into 667 00:28:33,704 --> 00:28:36,064 Speaker 1: event and maybe they're taking the photos taken on the street, 668 00:28:36,104 --> 00:28:38,664 Speaker 1: but like they're walking into a work event and they're 669 00:28:38,664 --> 00:28:41,104 Speaker 1: clearly dressed up and they expect it, like they've got 670 00:28:41,104 --> 00:28:43,144 Speaker 1: their game based on before they get in there. And 671 00:28:43,184 --> 00:28:45,904 Speaker 1: then sometimes you can tell that like they just knew 672 00:28:45,904 --> 00:28:47,504 Speaker 1: they were going to be there and they're okay about it, 673 00:28:47,544 --> 00:28:49,544 Speaker 1: like the other day with Meryl Streep and Martin Short, 674 00:28:49,584 --> 00:28:51,904 Speaker 1: like those are all pat photos and everyone's falling over 675 00:28:51,944 --> 00:28:53,384 Speaker 1: them and no one's having They're. 676 00:28:53,224 --> 00:28:57,144 Speaker 2: Like smiling and not hiding. It's yeah, it's different. 677 00:28:57,264 --> 00:28:59,304 Speaker 1: And even though you can see from the reflection of 678 00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:01,984 Speaker 1: the car that like their car is being absolutely swarmed 679 00:29:01,984 --> 00:29:04,624 Speaker 1: by people. It's it's a hard line to walk for 680 00:29:04,704 --> 00:29:07,264 Speaker 1: us because I think like, on one hand, they've gone 681 00:29:07,304 --> 00:29:11,104 Speaker 1: to a very known paparazzi hotspot restaurant where there's cameras 682 00:29:11,144 --> 00:29:13,704 Speaker 1: camped out the front all the time, so I guess 683 00:29:13,704 --> 00:29:16,664 Speaker 1: like there's an element of knowing what you're walking into. 684 00:29:16,984 --> 00:29:19,304 Speaker 1: They also don't look distressed, like they look like they're 685 00:29:19,344 --> 00:29:22,024 Speaker 1: just laughing and happy, and I think that also makes 686 00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,304 Speaker 1: us feel like we can talk about the photos. But 687 00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:26,224 Speaker 1: then the Marco Robbie photos, like I did look at 688 00:29:26,224 --> 00:29:28,104 Speaker 1: them because they just came up in my news feed everywhere, 689 00:29:28,144 --> 00:29:31,304 Speaker 1: like you couldn't escape them all over TikTok, they're on Instagram, 690 00:29:31,304 --> 00:29:35,184 Speaker 1: they're even on Facebook, like old school Facebook. And when 691 00:29:35,224 --> 00:29:37,264 Speaker 1: you look at Margaret Robbie's face, like she does look 692 00:29:37,304 --> 00:29:39,504 Speaker 1: a bit distressed. She's like walking to her baby and 693 00:29:39,504 --> 00:29:41,744 Speaker 1: she's trying to push a pram and she's probably trying 694 00:29:41,744 --> 00:29:44,624 Speaker 1: to just like live her life, and what you're not 695 00:29:44,664 --> 00:29:46,784 Speaker 1: seeing is that there's probably a huge group of men 696 00:29:46,864 --> 00:29:48,744 Speaker 1: like pushing in on her with cameras. 697 00:29:49,064 --> 00:29:51,384 Speaker 2: I hate that, like I hate that, And I think 698 00:29:51,464 --> 00:29:54,864 Speaker 2: it's also we have talked about like paparazzi with like 699 00:29:55,144 --> 00:29:58,224 Speaker 2: new mothers, because it has like a different through a 700 00:29:58,224 --> 00:30:01,584 Speaker 2: different lens. You're also judging these moms and they're parenting skills, 701 00:30:01,584 --> 00:30:03,664 Speaker 2: and you're judging on what they're like children look like, 702 00:30:03,704 --> 00:30:06,144 Speaker 2: and you're judging on how they look straight after giving birth, 703 00:30:06,584 --> 00:30:08,744 Speaker 2: and it's just so so icky to me. 704 00:30:09,024 --> 00:30:11,224 Speaker 1: And I just think of like, over the years, and 705 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:15,344 Speaker 1: especially as celebrity culture has got more intense, the amount 706 00:30:15,424 --> 00:30:18,984 Speaker 1: of photos I've seen of children and their moms and 707 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:23,704 Speaker 1: like new moms with little babies just looking like teary, distressed, upset, 708 00:30:23,744 --> 00:30:26,104 Speaker 1: and those photos are just have just gone on to 709 00:30:26,264 --> 00:30:27,904 Speaker 1: make so much money and everyone's looked at them. Like 710 00:30:27,944 --> 00:30:30,104 Speaker 1: there's photos of Victoria Beckham trying to get her kids 711 00:30:30,104 --> 00:30:33,064 Speaker 1: out of at airport and the camera's flashing on them 712 00:30:33,224 --> 00:30:35,384 Speaker 1: and men are pushing on them and she's getting upset, 713 00:30:35,464 --> 00:30:38,064 Speaker 1: Like it's the most animated I've ever seen her. And 714 00:30:38,144 --> 00:30:41,464 Speaker 1: the kids are screaming and they're crying, and there's photos 715 00:30:41,464 --> 00:30:44,624 Speaker 1: of like Northwestern, Penelope dissps so Courtney Kardashian and Kim 716 00:30:44,664 --> 00:30:47,464 Speaker 1: Kardashian's kids. There's photos of them and Mason too, Kourtney 717 00:30:47,504 --> 00:30:49,664 Speaker 1: Kardashian's oldest kid. And those kids have grown up with 718 00:30:49,744 --> 00:30:52,424 Speaker 1: cameras everywhere, and that's why I think why Kim gets 719 00:30:52,464 --> 00:30:56,104 Speaker 1: so much backlash and all the Kardashians do. But her reasoning, 720 00:30:56,144 --> 00:30:57,664 Speaker 1: which I kind of agree with, is she's like, when 721 00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:59,704 Speaker 1: we're in the home with the camera crew, like they 722 00:30:59,744 --> 00:31:02,864 Speaker 1: know the camera crew. The Kardashians have had some of 723 00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:05,264 Speaker 1: the same camera crew for over twenty years, Like, these 724 00:31:05,344 --> 00:31:07,904 Speaker 1: kids know them. There's no one chasing them through the house. 725 00:31:07,944 --> 00:31:10,624 Speaker 1: It's like there's a camera in the background. I feel 726 00:31:10,624 --> 00:31:14,104 Speaker 1: like that's so different to a strange man chasing you 727 00:31:14,184 --> 00:31:15,904 Speaker 1: through the streets and trying to push a camera in 728 00:31:15,944 --> 00:31:18,064 Speaker 1: your face. And there's photos of like and there's videos 729 00:31:18,104 --> 00:31:20,664 Speaker 1: of Penelope and Northwest crying saying no. 730 00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:21,984 Speaker 2: Photos, stop the photos. 731 00:31:22,304 --> 00:31:24,824 Speaker 1: There's photos of like Hillary Duff heavily pregnant, trying to 732 00:31:24,824 --> 00:31:26,704 Speaker 1: get her baby out of the car and like paparazzi 733 00:31:26,744 --> 00:31:29,824 Speaker 1: pushing her over. And while those Margot Robbie photos didn't 734 00:31:29,824 --> 00:31:34,184 Speaker 1: seem that intense, you can clearly see something is happening 735 00:31:34,384 --> 00:31:37,504 Speaker 1: that's making her quiet upset with the way that she's 736 00:31:37,544 --> 00:31:39,104 Speaker 1: been like tracked through the streets. I don't know, it 737 00:31:39,584 --> 00:31:42,024 Speaker 1: feels a weird thing to like do a baby announcement 738 00:31:42,704 --> 00:31:45,784 Speaker 1: when like Chris Pratt and Catherine have like announced it 739 00:31:45,784 --> 00:31:48,064 Speaker 1: in like a beautiful text image, and. 740 00:31:48,024 --> 00:31:51,024 Speaker 2: We have talked about like even Rihanna had to announce 741 00:31:51,104 --> 00:31:53,784 Speaker 2: like post a video of her son on TikTok because 742 00:31:53,904 --> 00:31:55,264 Speaker 2: paparazzi had photos so. 743 00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:57,344 Speaker 1: Followed her down onto the beach where she thought she 744 00:31:57,384 --> 00:31:57,984 Speaker 1: was alone, and. 745 00:31:57,904 --> 00:31:59,584 Speaker 2: She didn't want them to publish a photo, so she 746 00:31:59,664 --> 00:32:02,784 Speaker 2: posted her son first. So even like forcing her hand 747 00:32:02,984 --> 00:32:05,424 Speaker 2: to having to post your child when you're not ready 748 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:05,904 Speaker 2: to post your. 749 00:32:05,904 --> 00:32:08,824 Speaker 1: Child, yeah, or even like Blake Lively with her last baby, 750 00:32:08,824 --> 00:32:11,024 Speaker 1: with her fourth child, having like post all of those 751 00:32:11,184 --> 00:32:13,784 Speaker 1: pregnancy photos online because men were trying to climb the 752 00:32:13,784 --> 00:32:16,664 Speaker 1: walls into her house. Like the currency of getting a 753 00:32:16,664 --> 00:32:19,184 Speaker 1: photo of a women's pregnant body or getting that first 754 00:32:19,184 --> 00:32:21,904 Speaker 1: picture of a new baby. I think, like we talk 755 00:32:21,944 --> 00:32:25,544 Speaker 1: about like celebrity culture changing and like paparazzi culture changing, 756 00:32:25,584 --> 00:32:27,624 Speaker 1: but I think when something like this happens, you see 757 00:32:27,624 --> 00:32:30,144 Speaker 1: like it hasn't changed. In fact, it's swung almost worse 758 00:32:30,184 --> 00:32:32,424 Speaker 1: the other way because now people need to get their 759 00:32:32,424 --> 00:32:35,464 Speaker 1: TikTok algorithms up and their video algorithms up and all 760 00:32:35,464 --> 00:32:37,464 Speaker 1: those on like you know, Instagram and stuff. So it's 761 00:32:37,464 --> 00:32:40,824 Speaker 1: almost like you need more content than ever before to 762 00:32:40,904 --> 00:32:43,344 Speaker 1: keep things running, and that content is coming from like 763 00:32:43,784 --> 00:32:46,704 Speaker 1: women and their babies and their pregnancy. So I don't know, like, 764 00:32:46,824 --> 00:32:48,904 Speaker 1: congrats to Mago Robbie, but I also wish, I kind 765 00:32:48,904 --> 00:32:50,264 Speaker 1: of wish we didn't know, because she doesn't want. 766 00:32:50,224 --> 00:32:52,984 Speaker 2: Us to know. Thank you so much for listening to 767 00:32:53,024 --> 00:32:55,784 Speaker 2: the Spill today. The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish 768 00:32:55,784 --> 00:32:58,544 Speaker 2: with sound production by Jacob Brown. We will be back 769 00:32:58,584 --> 00:33:00,824 Speaker 2: here on your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow. 770 00:33:00,944 --> 00:33:06,944 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Lan