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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fixed. I'm
Speaker 3: m Burnham and today I'm joined.
Speaker 1: With Ash London. Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 3: Please here on the show today we are talking about
Speaker 3: the new movie It Ends with Us. Yes, we have
Speaker 3: talked about it in the past, but now we're diving
Speaker 3: into all the behind the scenes controversy and drama.
Speaker 1: So much going on.
Speaker 4: My goodness, incredible pr for a movie premier?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Is it incredible pr?
Speaker 3: Or is it a disaster? You'll find out. But first Ash,
Speaker 3: I have some sad news.
Speaker 1: Oh no, please tell me.
Speaker 3: We unfortunately have yet another update from the upcoming divorce
Speaker 3: of Jennifer Ben Afwick.
Speaker 1: Now is it officials they're breaking up? They? What is
Speaker 1: going on? I'm very confused about the whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's so funny how every time we talked about Jennifer
Speaker 3: Lopez and Ben Affleck, it's always an update about their divorce.
Speaker 2: But it's not actually the divorce.
Speaker 4: It's it's just imminent photos, which is what celebrities do, right,
Speaker 4: they're like bread crumb us so that we're not too shocked.
Speaker 3: So it was reported by people j Loo was seen
Speaker 3: visiting Ben Affleck's home in La after spending a day
Speaker 3: with his son that he shares with Jennifer Ghana.
Speaker 1: So that means they have separate houses. We know this much.
Speaker 2: They have separate houses.
Speaker 3: They were looking at merging, like having one big house,
Speaker 3: like with all.
Speaker 2: Of their children in superhouse, a superhouse.
Speaker 3: But it has been reported that now they're looking at
Speaker 3: separate houses. So a source told people, just because she's
Speaker 3: not with Ben doesn't mean she doesn't care about his kids.
Speaker 3: And this is something I feel like they've been drip
Speaker 3: feeding us, like you said, like they're always seen spending
Speaker 3: time with each other's kids, but not spending time to get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I hope that it's like a legitimate
Speaker 4: thing that they really do have great relationships with the
Speaker 4: kids and want to hang out, as opposed to some
Speaker 4: like pr thing where they're like, right, you got to
Speaker 4: get your daughter in and he's gonna they got hold
Speaker 4: hands and have a cinnabon or some weird you know,
Speaker 4: like using them as pawns. But I guess they are
Speaker 4: real people and they did love each other. And that's
Speaker 4: what happens, right, like kids become close. Like it's different.
Speaker 4: But remember and Dakota Johnson, whose stepfather is Antonio Banderas, Yes,
Speaker 4: and he got some award and she got up there
Speaker 4: and like presented the war to him and it was
Speaker 4: so beautiful. And then you remember, like, oh, they're actually
Speaker 4: like real people.
Speaker 3: Especially I guess since they're older kids, because they see
Speaker 3: everything and they know everything. Just before this, I don't
Speaker 3: think we've talked about this on the spill. We talked
Speaker 3: about j Loo celebrating her birthday in the Hamdams without
Speaker 3: Ben Affleck because he was working in LA But then
Speaker 3: after that there were images release of Ben Affleck that
Speaker 3: started to trend everywhere because they were labeled as the
Speaker 3: most divorced looking man anyone has ever.
Speaker 1: I'm looking.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at them now. The headline ain't wrong and
Speaker 4: he always wrong dad and his face always looks pissed
Speaker 4: off and exhausted and over it.
Speaker 1: But now the outfit's kind of reflecting it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's having a bit of a glove. So I
Speaker 3: wonder if this is the end of sad Ben He's
Speaker 3: got kind of a haircut that's like shaved on the
Speaker 3: side but a bit longer on the top. It's like
Speaker 3: nearly a Mohok, we're not quite there yet. He's wearing
Speaker 3: avi at a sonny. He's a leather jacket. I feel
Speaker 3: like he's channeling his back tattoo era.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's exactly right, but it's not nice, like
Speaker 4: it's I mean, maybe if he's trying to date women
Speaker 4: his age, it's going to work. But if he wants
Speaker 4: it in with the rest of Hollywood men do at
Speaker 4: that age and date someone in their twenties, he needs
Speaker 4: a stylist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this is going to be the start of
Speaker 3: a Ben Affleck stylist, and then we're just going to
Speaker 3: see him.
Speaker 4: Be I mean so, I don't think so. He's like
Speaker 4: he can't be bothered. He does his own thing. He
Speaker 4: moves to the beat of his own drum. I just
Speaker 4: hope that he never gets truly happy, Like I love
Speaker 4: seeing him just at big Hollywood parties and everyone else
Speaker 4: would die to be at just wanting to be anywhere else,
Speaker 4: Like nothing makes me happier than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want him with his little sad coffee looking
Speaker 3: really sad.
Speaker 4: Just like scowling, whispering angrily to j Lo, like, get
Speaker 4: me the f out of this party. I want to
Speaker 4: go home and you know, play video games or whatever
Speaker 4: he likes to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like he has the like pool,
Speaker 3: the Hollywood pool now to be able to act like that, so.
Speaker 1: You may more power.
Speaker 3: To you be a The only thing that I'm annoyed
Speaker 3: about is that if they do announce their divorce, we'll
Speaker 3: stop getting the updates. And I'm living for these updates.
Speaker 3: I just want us to continue forever.
Speaker 4: It's so great. Good on them. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 4: give it probably three months. Should we do a bet
Speaker 4: now that at least by the end of the year
Speaker 4: the paperwork will be signed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to say mid November.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go, end of year, I'll go Thanksgiving, went
Speaker 4: to Thanksgiving, like end of November is I'll go, like,
Speaker 4: I'll go like December school holiday, so like first week
Speaker 4: of December where none of us care exactly there's no
Speaker 4: new cycle, Okay, so we.
Speaker 3: Have to talk about everything that's been happening with the movie.
Speaker 2: It ends with us.
Speaker 3: We did talk about the movie on Friday. If you
Speaker 3: missed it, give it a listen, We'll check a link
Speaker 3: of it in our show notes. But today we're not
Speaker 3: talking about the actual movie. We're talking about the real
Speaker 3: people behind the scenes, the people, yes, well in the
Speaker 3: front of camera, people behind the camera.
Speaker 1: And you would have done the people who did both, the.
Speaker 3: People who did both. You would have seen this all
Speaker 3: over your TikTok feeds, social feeds. I didn't really understand it,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to try to break this down, make
Speaker 3: it as clear as possible. So there were rumors that
Speaker 3: started when the film was released because the actors started doing.
Speaker 2: The press tour for it. And I feel like now more.
Speaker 3: Than ever, press tours have become a massive thing. We
Speaker 3: have talked about, like the women dressing up, like making
Speaker 3: their outfits a big deal. They try to make these tropes,
Speaker 3: like these couple of tropes we saw it with Lady
Speaker 3: Gaga Bradley, like Bridgerton, Sidney Sweeney, Glen Powell, and with
Speaker 3: this certain kind of press junket for this movie.
Speaker 2: Something was off.
Speaker 3: Because the cast were doing all of their press tours
Speaker 3: together and Justin Baldoni was doing it separately even though
Speaker 3: he was one of the main leads. Plus he was
Speaker 3: the director of the film, really weird stuff he's never
Speaker 3: seen with the rest of the car, so Blake Lively
Speaker 3: and all of them are together and he's just always
Speaker 3: been separate doing his own thing. So that's when rumors,
Speaker 3: I guess, started to spiral. That's where I first saw it,
Speaker 3: with the people saying that Blake, Lively and Baldoni had
Speaker 3: creative differences on set.
Speaker 4: And they didn't follow each other on Instagram, which is like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, the Instagram thing red flag. So like Colin Hoover,
Speaker 4: the author of the film, and Blake G. Lively follow
Speaker 4: each other, but not Justin Baldoni. There's also been some
Speaker 4: information floated around that Colen and Blake became quite chummy
Speaker 4: during the film and maybe like Justin was kind of
Speaker 4: separate to that. I don't know what that means, but
Speaker 4: again another bit of proof of this some sort.
Speaker 1: Of a strange divide happening.
Speaker 4: And if we go back to the couple trope thing,
Speaker 4: if that is like a big pr thing that people
Speaker 4: are using to promote these films. Now everyone's married, that's
Speaker 4: like in this film, so they can't do that.
Speaker 1: They had to do something.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's got something to do with well, we need
Speaker 4: to generate some headlines, but everyone's kind of very happily married.
Speaker 4: And also Justin Baldoni is like quite religious, so I
Speaker 4: think he wouldn't probably want to get I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they tried to do the couple trope and then
Speaker 3: last minute decided against it, and.
Speaker 1: Or they just knew they could and they were.
Speaker 2: Like, we have to try something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like can you guys have a fight or something,
Speaker 4: or maybe like the fight existed and they were like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: you know I didn't get along, So we're leaning into that.
Speaker 2: We're leaning in.
Speaker 3: So some of the other things that happened around this
Speaker 3: time was when the film was taking place, the screenwriters
Speaker 3: went on strike just before the massive strike around the
Speaker 3: same time. Blake was doing interviews about the film. She
Speaker 3: was saying that her husband Ryan Reynolds helped her a
Speaker 3: lot with certain scenes and vice versa, like she also
Speaker 3: helped him with Deadpool. And this is really significant because
Speaker 3: Deadpool right now is the biggest movie that's come out,
Speaker 3: and it Ends with Us is the second biggest. So
Speaker 3: these two are just making bank on both of these movies.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows them, everyone knows their face and their names,
Speaker 3: and these are just like, I think one of the
Speaker 3: most powerful couples out right now. So one of the
Speaker 3: screenwriters said that they didn't know that certain scenes have
Speaker 3: changed until they actually saw the movie itself.
Speaker 1: And Ryan Reynolds was the one to rewrite that.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's been rumored that Ryan Reynolds was the
Speaker 3: course of this sale.
Speaker 1: That is so orky.
Speaker 2: It's so awkward.
Speaker 4: Like I get they're both extremely talented, but I don't know,
Speaker 4: like there's a way to do things. Justin is trying
Speaker 4: so hard to protect like because it's.
Speaker 3: His name on it, right, He's.
Speaker 1: Not said anything.
Speaker 4: Bad, he's seeming He's like, yeah, Blake's an amazing producer
Speaker 4: and so hands off. So yes, she was hands on,
Speaker 4: like all these things that we think areboud It gets to.
Speaker 1: Him and he's like, yeah, but it's amazing. So I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: It's all very confusing, But I don't think i'd want
Speaker 4: my husband to be like visiting work and meddling this year,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And then now looking back at all the promo that
Speaker 3: we discussed on Friday's episode, I don't remember seeing Baldoni
Speaker 3: on like any carpet, like he was obviously there because
Speaker 3: I've seen interviews now that this has all come to light,
Speaker 3: But on the carpet.
Speaker 2: It was like Blake Ryan, Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 1: Why the hell was Hugh Jackman there?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was fine to be there
Speaker 3: because she got to bring Gigi head dead to Deadpool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like they're two separate movies. How much money
Speaker 1: do you guys want to make here?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: And again, like the thematics of this film are very like,
Speaker 4: it's tough viewing this is really like important topics when
Speaker 4: we talk about domestic violence and like those kind of
Speaker 4: toxic relationships, we need to tread carefully, like there has
Speaker 4: to be a line, and for me, it feels like
Speaker 4: Justin's on one side of the line. And I know
Speaker 4: we'll kind of get into it because the internet's really
Speaker 4: blown up with this, but it seems like Blake's treating
Speaker 4: this like the Barbie Press too well. And really there's
Speaker 4: some kind of themes in here that require some attention
Speaker 4: and require some like what's the word like?
Speaker 3: So like you know, it needs like careful treading and
Speaker 3: and one side of the camp I think hasn't done
Speaker 3: that at all. But yes, there's like more fallout. Surprisingly
Speaker 3: after all of this after all the press. We will
Speaker 3: be getting into that after the break.
Speaker 2: So now we come to.
Speaker 3: The actual interviews that Blake and Justin have been doing
Speaker 3: for this movie. And if you don't know anything about
Speaker 3: the movie and you watch these interviews, it sounds like
Speaker 3: they're both promoting two completely separate films.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one may be a documentary about the epidemic that
Speaker 4: is domestic violence, and one might be a chick flick
Speaker 4: that's like get your girlfriends, have some rose and like
Speaker 4: giggle your way through this film like full of hearties,
Speaker 4: like it's you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Two syparate films, two syparate films.
Speaker 4: We'll start with Justin Baldoni. So if you go to
Speaker 4: his Instagram, the last probably like eight to ten posts
Speaker 4: are all about the film and the promotion, and he's
Speaker 4: appeared on big like morning talk shows. I've got two
Speaker 4: grabs to play for you. The one is this very succinct.
Speaker 4: This really just kind of like wraps it up. One
Speaker 4: thing you want people to take away from this project,
Speaker 4: what would you say, hope.
Speaker 5: That everybody has the ability to end a cycle that
Speaker 5: they didn't ask for. We can all say it ends
Speaker 5: with us in our.
Speaker 4: Life and in the second one, he kind of goes
Speaker 4: into more detail. I just remember, this is like daytime
Speaker 4: US television, which is very light and airy and fluffy.
Speaker 4: He could have gone in there and turned on the
Speaker 4: charm and been like, it's a great fun film, go
Speaker 4: see it. But instead, as a man and a man
Speaker 4: with agency, listen to the approach that he takes.
Speaker 5: Of the things that I think is very easy to say,
Speaker 5: especially for us men, is when we maybe talk to
Speaker 5: somebody who's in the situation, or we book or we
Speaker 5: hear a news story, the question that's always asked is
Speaker 5: why did she stay? And that's the wrong question. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we need to be asking ourselves is why do men harm? Yes?
Speaker 5: And that was the big thing for me, And what
Speaker 5: I've learned more and more and more of is like,
Speaker 5: you know, these women who experience this every single day,
Speaker 5: there's real love there. You know, there's charm, there's charisma,
Speaker 5: there's passion, there's this belief that they can be better
Speaker 5: and it's not so simple. So our friends that know more,
Speaker 5: I'm wearing their pen right now. They were the ones
Speaker 5: who helped me make this film as truthful as possible
Speaker 5: and hopefully do justice.
Speaker 2: I just like to.
Speaker 4: Experience this, So he's taking these really seriously, and I
Speaker 4: think the way that he's approaching it, he's very measured.
Speaker 4: He's obviously consulted with DV groups to make sure that
Speaker 4: the messaging is right and it's helpful and it's something
Speaker 4: where people can like feel empowered.
Speaker 1: And then am Blake's kind of taking a bit of
Speaker 1: a different approache, which is her prerogative.
Speaker 2: When I saw this.
Speaker 6: Dress, it was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it.
Speaker 5: I found it.
Speaker 6: It tab ben to and you know, it's the butterfly
Speaker 6: dress and Lily and her experience and the way what
Speaker 6: she goes through and how she comes out of it.
Speaker 6: It just felt so appropriate and also what Britney has
Speaker 6: meant to any girl or any person growing up when
Speaker 6: I did like she was such a shining example of
Speaker 6: a woman who could go through such challenging experiences but
Speaker 6: always do with grace and joy and love. And she
Speaker 6: just always felt like she led with love no matter
Speaker 6: what she was doing.
Speaker 3: So what I found really interesting about this was I
Speaker 3: went in to watch It ends with us without knowing much.
Speaker 3: I knew it was based off a clean book, and
Speaker 3: I didn't know it had a domestic violence undertone with it,
Speaker 3: because all I've seen has been the hype around Blake
Speaker 3: and her outfits. I thought it was going to be
Speaker 3: a really cute, rongcom with a quirky woman who two
Speaker 3: men are fighting over.
Speaker 2: That's literally what I thought, which.
Speaker 1: Is fair enough.
Speaker 4: And he says some sort of a warning at the
Speaker 4: start of the film when you go into watch.
Speaker 3: It, not that I remember, but I also think that
Speaker 3: sometimes with trigger warnings it takes away from the storyline
Speaker 3: and how you react as a person, because the way
Speaker 3: they depicte domestic violence was done so this is the
Speaker 3: wrong word to use, but so well in the way
Speaker 3: that exactly what Justin was saying in his interviews. A
Speaker 3: lot of people who face domestic violence, a lot of
Speaker 3: questions they get asked is why didn't you leave? And
Speaker 3: that's the wrong person to be asking me. She'd be
Speaker 3: asking men why do they harm? And that movie perfectly
Speaker 3: encapsulates exactly why women don't leave and like how hard
Speaker 3: it is. And I thought that was done so brilliantly,
Speaker 3: and I thought it had shown a light on something
Speaker 3: that's so tragic that's happening in society that no other
Speaker 3: film really touches on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's such a great opportunity for Blake to
Speaker 4: align herself with something so powerful, Like you'd think that
Speaker 4: she could see this as an opportunity to, if anything,
Speaker 4: kind of broaden her appeal is the wrong word, but like,
Speaker 4: you know, her and Ryan are so community focused and
Speaker 4: there's that's really good people, Like they're very generous up
Speaker 4: on good causes. It seems like it would have been
Speaker 4: a home run for her to just like yeah, oh
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting what Blake thought about when she went
Speaker 3: into the marketing of this film. And I can kind of,
Speaker 3: like not to pile on her, but I can kind
Speaker 3: of see her line of thinking. I think what they
Speaker 3: decided her and Ryan was to kind of duplicate the
Speaker 3: success of the marketing for Deadpool without realizing how different
Speaker 3: the movies are and how marketing can't just be a
Speaker 3: copy and paste like it is for most of the
Speaker 3: other films we've seen, Like we've seen it with Ryan Gosling,
Speaker 3: Margot Robbie, Ryan Gosling, Emily Blunt, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: like they are so easily able to copy and paste
Speaker 3: because we're just seeing like a rom com that so
Speaker 3: easily follows the two lead tropes. We've even seen w
Speaker 3: Chatting Tatum and Scarlet Joe Hanson with this new film,
Speaker 3: and this is just not the film that could have
Speaker 3: been duplicated that way because of the underlining issue that's
Speaker 3: trying to bring to light.
Speaker 4: And maybe their approach was, we want as many people
Speaker 4: to see this film as possible, because the message is
Speaker 4: so important. If we market it too heavily one way,
Speaker 4: people aren't gonna watch it. That's true, So let's go
Speaker 4: out and make this big and colorful and get headlines
Speaker 4: to get people in there. And then we believe so
Speaker 4: much in the message of this film that we know
Speaker 4: that that could be, like you know, another way of
Speaker 4: looking at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it has succeeded in doing that
Speaker 3: with Justin focusing on domestic Violet with his press tour
Speaker 3: for his fans, and Blake focusing on it being like
Speaker 3: a rom com, which it's not a rom com, but
Speaker 3: it is working in bringing people in and watching it
Speaker 3: and then talking about it like we are right now.
Speaker 2: What is really.
Speaker 3: Interesting that this has worked is that it was such
Speaker 3: a risky game to play because we've seen it work
Speaker 3: so badly with another movie Don't Worry Darling.
Speaker 4: That's whole again, didn't need as much pr Like, this
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest books of the last couple
Speaker 4: of years for women, and Don't Worry Darling had freaking
Speaker 4: Harry Styles in it and his girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the movie flopped.
Speaker 3: Don't Worry Darling flopped. And it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3: Like everyone thought there was a massive rift in the cast.
Speaker 3: I mean that one was a bit more obvious because
Speaker 3: you did see Olivia Wilde that video got leaked of
Speaker 3: her going misflow.
Speaker 2: Flow, how do we get her back on?
Speaker 3: And then that like rumor that Harry Styles spit on
Speaker 3: cris Pine, Like it was just like a follow on
Speaker 3: effect of absolutely.
Speaker 4: I think it's just cheap in the film though people
Speaker 4: like this film with a joke. I think before all
Speaker 4: of the press it kind of felt like this cool
Speaker 4: indie film that Harry Styles had signed onto, which is
Speaker 4: like so cool. It lost all the cool effect after that,
Speaker 4: it just became very high school I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I am actually quite glad that the same
Speaker 3: thing didn't happen for this movie. Right here, it ends
Speaker 3: with us because it is such an important film. But yeah,
Speaker 3: like if Blake had kind of changed her marketing for it.
Speaker 3: I think I would have been as a viewer more
Speaker 3: prepared going in to what to expect, Like I was
Speaker 3: not expecting that film at all. I was expecting a
Speaker 3: really cutely fun rom com, especially after the stream of
Speaker 3: rom coms we've been getting so far, and this one
Speaker 3: just hit differently. But now watching the press tool coming
Speaker 3: after it, I do see why people are upset as
Speaker 3: a viewer with Blake and Ryan and the angle they've
Speaker 3: taken with marketing, and now all of this stuff has
Speaker 3: been coming back up to the surface, like people are
Speaker 3: bringing up when they had their wedding on the plantation,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's working.
Speaker 4: Out what happens right as soon as it's like the
Speaker 4: tiniest pylon, like the pylon begins, and my take on
Speaker 4: it at the moment, just for me a casual observer
Speaker 4: and kind of looking through TikTok and Instagram, is it
Speaker 4: really the tide is kind of turning away from her
Speaker 4: at this point. My people are and that might be
Speaker 4: different in two days, and I hope it is, because
Speaker 4: I think the pylons are lame and everyone's kind of
Speaker 4: just trying their best to market this movie the best
Speaker 4: way they know how. And I know it always ended
Speaker 4: up saying this, at the end of these big discussions
Speaker 4: that we have, we don't actually know what's really happened.
Speaker 2: You know, what's really happened.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 4: We can piecings together, and for the most part, I
Speaker 4: think we do a pretty good job because things get leaked,
Speaker 4: things are very specific and contrived, and we see what
Speaker 4: we're supposed to see and YadA, YadA, YadA, But you know,
Speaker 4: we don't really know what happened. But all I can
Speaker 4: kind of take away from this is that like Justin
Speaker 4: Badoni is a good guy, Blake Lively is a good girl.
Speaker 4: Like they're not bad people, they're just taking different approaches here.
Speaker 4: And when you're doing this in the age of the Internet,
Speaker 4: with like billions of people watching, why is it going
Speaker 4: to get crossed? People are going to make their own stories.
Speaker 4: So they maybe should have been a bit more careful
Speaker 4: with this one.
Speaker 2: But we're still watching the film and I think.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3: It's so good, like even like without all the drama,
Speaker 3: Like both of their acting skills, director skills, producing skills
Speaker 3: are just absolutely beyond like it's such a brilliant film.
Speaker 1: Can I ask does Justin play the bad guy?
Speaker 2: Or he plays the bad guy?
Speaker 1: Does he? I wondered about that because it could go
Speaker 1: either way.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 3: He does that rolelliantly. And then when you see him
Speaker 3: do the interviews and talking about how hard it was
Speaker 3: for him to play that part, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 3: even imagine like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it so well, like so believable, which
Speaker 2: is really scary.
Speaker 3: And we've seen it also go bad, like I remember
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones when the guy who played Jeoffrey just
Speaker 3: quit acting altogether because people genuinely believed he was a
Speaker 3: bad person.
Speaker 1: Like if you're too good at your job, good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But he's such a sweetheart. Everyone knows he's like such
Speaker 1: a nice guy.
Speaker 4: I'm drained the virgin and generally, like if you follow
Speaker 4: the guy on Instagram, it becomes very clear, very quickly
Speaker 4: that he's very spiritual, he's very family oriented.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's a good dude.
Speaker 2: If he can't dude, that's it, he's a good dude.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the spill today.
Speaker 3: If you want more content on the movie, it ends
Speaker 3: with us. We did do a little episode on it
Speaker 3: on Friday. We will link that in our show notes.
Speaker 3: Otherwise we will see you back here in your podcast
Speaker 3: speed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Bye bye Lan