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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on. Hi. I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma

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Speaker 1: MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. As winter begins to

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Speaker 1: of responses to this seasonal shift. Today, we'll explore the

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Speaker 1: ways people react to the arrival of spring, from psychological resets,

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Speaker 1: to cultural celebrations, housing bonanzas, and a trip to the

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Speaker 1: chemist for a hardcore dose of antihistamines. But before we

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Speaker 1: watery eyes, let's check out what's happening in the Quickie newsroom. Monday,

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Speaker 1: September two. A series of cold fronts have slammed the

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Speaker 1: southeast of Australia, with New South Wales the next state,

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Speaker 1: expected to copper beating from damaging winds. The wild weather

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Speaker 1: has already caused issues in Tasmania, where thousands of homes

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Speaker 1: water as the River Derwent below meadow Bank dam was

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Speaker 1: likely to exceed major flood levels. The front moved across

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Speaker 1: southwest Victoria overnight, the state still recovering from a week

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Speaker 1: of wild weather that left six hundred homes damaged and

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Speaker 1: more than thirty five thousand homes without power. Conditions are

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Speaker 1: forecast to ease in Victoria and Tasmania through today, while

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Speaker 1: the massive cold front tracks eastwards to New South Wales

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Speaker 1: this morning, with a severe weather warning in place for

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Speaker 1: to the Snowy Mountains and the Act. Linda Reynolds high

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Speaker 1: profile defamation battle with former staff for Britney Higgins is

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Speaker 1: Miss Higgins is being sued by the Senator, who claimed

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen impacted her reputation, casting her as the villain

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Speaker 1: in their political cover up fairy tale. Miss higgins lawyer

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Speaker 1: claims she was simply telling the truth. More than twenty witnesses,

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Speaker 1: including former Prime Minister Scott Morrison have given evidence in

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Speaker 1: the WA Supreme Court trial, Mister Morrison telling the judge

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Speaker 1: saying the issue was politically weaponized to discredit both Miss

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Speaker 1: Reynolds and himself. Australian house prices have risen for the

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Speaker 1: as more buyers are priced out of the market. Stats

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Speaker 1: from core Logic Data reveals the quarterly increase in national

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, when it was two point seven percent.

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Speaker 1: The monthly gains were led by Perth with a two

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Speaker 1: Brisbane growing by one point one percent. While growth may

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Speaker 1: weather leading to less properties on the market, affordability constraints

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Speaker 1: that you can't even fathom. The pulse on Paris at

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Speaker 1: what's happening around the globe today. Next Winter has officially

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Speaker 1: is Desert Lounger revealed something that perhaps many Ossies don't know.

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Speaker 1: To funny officially yes, but weatherwise it's been pretty springy

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Speaker 3: Facts so in the lower West of Western Australia, the

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Speaker 1: The season of gilber is defined as running from August

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Speaker 1: It's also known as the season of conception, which is

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Speaker 1: according to moon phases, not the calendar, so their spring

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Speaker 1: But while the days become warmer and the amount of

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Speaker 1: For example, the colder weather can lead to more heart

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Speaker 1: of Psychologists. Carli, is it all about this extra sunlight

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Speaker 2: We start to feel hopeful. Ah, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: Is that the thing that symbolic fresh start that spring brings,

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Speaker 1: because we'd start doing things like spring cleaning and all

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Speaker 2: then even smaller proportion experience the seasonal cyclical depression in

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Speaker 1: What does spring do for you personally, Kali? Does it

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Speaker 2: I feel reborn? Honestly. I love being outside, I love hiking,

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Speaker 2: like I've gotten through the hard slog of winter. Better

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Speaker 1: The desire for renewal that spring brings often extends beyond

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Speaker 1: just how we feel. Career counselors report a spiking job

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Speaker 1: for new spring wardrobes. The construction industry often sees an

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Speaker 1: analysts noting a phenomenon called the spring rally. Dating apps

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Speaker 1: referred to as spring fever. Whether it's due to increased

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Speaker 1: interest in romantic pursuits during this season. It also heralds

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Speaker 1: a really big jump in people buying and selling homes?

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Speaker 4: gardens are always looking beautiful, flowers of blossoming, and people

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Speaker 4: come out of hibernation from winter, so we always see

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Speaker 1: So the curb appeal from having a flowering garden actually

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, It's always pulling on the heart strings. And I

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Speaker 4: lot of people are proud of their gardens and it's

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Speaker 4: a selling point of the property.

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Speaker 1: How big a difference is it from winter sale? Sam like,

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Speaker 1: kind of data value that could explain just how much

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Speaker 1: bigger spring sales are compared to winter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose off the top of my head, I

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Speaker 4: don't have exact figures, but I guess myself personally in

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Speaker 4: terms of stock levels and properties on the market coming

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Speaker 4: into spring in that spring period compared to winter, on average,

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Speaker 4: I would say I'm probably running four more property campaigns

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Speaker 1: Is just a bit more excited and happy correct correct.

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Speaker 4: Over the winter period, the market does tighten up so

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Speaker 4: there's more buyers. And one thing we do notice as

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Speaker 1: And do you think people just don't want to move

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Speaker 4: It's definitely a fair point that you make their Claire,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but Adelaide Hills winter it's

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Speaker 1: Culturally, spring's arrival is marked by celebrations around the world.

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Speaker 1: have a specific spring festival, many communities organize events to

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Speaker 1: There's a palpable sense of excitement in the air as

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Speaker 1: the arrival of spring brings both benefits and challenges. For

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Speaker 1: allergy sufferers, spring can be a difficult time. Doctor Brad

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Speaker 1: Mackay is a GP author, podcast host and medical commentator.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Brad, why do our histamines get all riled up

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Speaker 1: by pollen? What is that, sir?

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Speaker 3: That's a very good question. We need to ask the pollen.

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Speaker 5: My nose does not serve me well.

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Speaker 1: So if you are a hay fever sufferer, should you

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Speaker 3: I've just started on some tablet antihistamines to keep me

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Speaker 5: If you've got a bit of a lead up, then yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you get in trouble with antihistamine the way that

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's non sedating and sedating anti histamine, so you

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Speaker 3: We generally do, say just one tablet a day off

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Speaker 3: the record will sometimes advise patients if it's just that

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's look at the flip side of this spring.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we initially associate with all things allergies, but do

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Speaker 1: we see some positive health effects of the warmer weather.

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Speaker 1: Do people start to I don't know, get more active

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Speaker 3: Working as a GP, A lot of my patients have

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Speaker 5: It's just been too cold to get out to the gym.

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Speaker 3: They're not very inspired, and when we start to see

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Speaker 1: So would you say that people might also make different

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Speaker 3: We typically don't feel as hungry during the summer months.

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Speaker 3: We might feel a bit more thirsty and start drinking more,

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Speaker 1: A drive through regional and rural Australia right now will

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Speaker 1: reveal exploding blooms, green fields and babies everywhere, Little lambs,

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Speaker 1: tiny calves and cute foles kicking up their heels in

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Speaker 1: the spring sunshine. But let's take a moment to think

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Speaker 1: of Year eleven and twelve students who spend these few

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Speaker 1: months desperately cramming for their end of year exams. Good

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Speaker 1: luck to you and your teachers. Thanks for spending some

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Speaker 1: time feeding your mind with us today. If you want

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Speaker 1: to know what we'll be wearing as a weather warms up,

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Speaker 1: head on over to our Nothing to Wear podcast, where

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Speaker 1: Lee Campbell explains the eleven items everyone is wearing in

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Speaker 1: London right now, which will probably end up in our

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Speaker 1: stores soon too. You can find the link in our

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Speaker 1: show notes. The Cookie is produced by me Claire Murphy

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Speaker 1: and our senior producer Taylor Strato, with audio production by

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Speaker 1: Lou Hill.