1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,514 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia. 2 00:00:10,353 --> 00:00:21,314 Speaker 2: Podcast From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily 3 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:22,273 Speaker 2: pop culture fix. 4 00:00:22,594 --> 00:00:24,753 Speaker 1: I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cascena Lukicic. 5 00:00:25,034 --> 00:00:27,914 Speaker 2: And this summer we have curated your Spill playlist with 6 00:00:27,994 --> 00:00:31,474 Speaker 2: some brand new episodes and some of our absolute favorites 7 00:00:31,474 --> 00:00:34,153 Speaker 2: from the archives. So this year, there have been so 8 00:00:34,274 --> 00:00:37,874 Speaker 2: many incredible new TV shows released, and look, it's easy 9 00:00:37,874 --> 00:00:39,793 Speaker 2: to miss them. There have been so many new releases 10 00:00:39,833 --> 00:00:42,354 Speaker 2: this year. So if you're looking for your next holiday, 11 00:00:42,434 --> 00:00:44,554 Speaker 2: what you want to find a new favorite TV show 12 00:00:44,634 --> 00:00:47,634 Speaker 2: just to get lost in. Let's revisit the best TV 13 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:49,873 Speaker 2: shows that have come out in the first part of 14 00:00:49,954 --> 00:00:50,874 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 15 00:00:51,394 --> 00:00:53,354 Speaker 1: Okay, so I wasn't on this episode. 16 00:00:53,394 --> 00:00:57,114 Speaker 3: You did this one with Taylor Strado and you kind 17 00:00:57,114 --> 00:00:59,154 Speaker 3: of picked a bunch of different TV shows. 18 00:00:59,234 --> 00:01:01,673 Speaker 1: What was the criteria for the shows? 19 00:01:01,754 --> 00:01:04,794 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you asked, because the criteria criteria, Yes, 20 00:01:04,834 --> 00:01:06,834 Speaker 2: because I made it up. I met a very strict list. 21 00:01:07,194 --> 00:01:08,634 Speaker 2: Sometimes we went till the end of the year to 22 00:01:08,754 --> 00:01:11,634 Speaker 2: the best TV shows. But there were so many incredible 23 00:01:11,674 --> 00:01:13,914 Speaker 2: new TV shows that popped up in the first half 24 00:01:13,914 --> 00:01:16,474 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five that we had to collet them all, 25 00:01:16,554 --> 00:01:18,314 Speaker 2: and there's so many streamers at the moment, there's so 26 00:01:18,314 --> 00:01:21,034 Speaker 2: many releases, it's easy to miss things. So that's why 27 00:01:21,034 --> 00:01:22,834 Speaker 2: we thought we would just kind of pull them all together. 28 00:01:23,274 --> 00:01:25,674 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about a few shows that people I'm 29 00:01:25,674 --> 00:01:28,434 Speaker 2: gonna guess had heard about, like The White Lotus season three, 30 00:01:28,474 --> 00:01:31,514 Speaker 2: in those kind of things, because returning shows with a 31 00:01:31,634 --> 00:01:35,194 Speaker 2: huge fan base, they're like appointment television viewing, like The 32 00:01:35,274 --> 00:01:37,674 Speaker 2: Last of Us and those kind of things I personally 33 00:01:37,714 --> 00:01:39,754 Speaker 2: felt didn't need to be on the list, So we 34 00:01:39,874 --> 00:01:42,514 Speaker 2: kept it just to shows that was like the first 35 00:01:42,514 --> 00:01:44,394 Speaker 2: season or the first time they'd seen them and the 36 00:01:44,394 --> 00:01:46,514 Speaker 2: first time they had come out in twenty twenty five, 37 00:01:46,874 --> 00:01:49,114 Speaker 2: and it was very varied. We had the Mindy Kaling 38 00:01:49,194 --> 00:01:52,074 Speaker 2: created show with Kate Hudson running point, Did you watch that? 39 00:01:52,434 --> 00:01:52,754 Speaker 4: Yes? 40 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:53,634 Speaker 1: Okay? 41 00:01:53,714 --> 00:01:57,314 Speaker 2: So that had some like mixed reviews. We had mixed reviews, 42 00:01:57,394 --> 00:01:59,314 Speaker 2: but not from us. I feel like we kind of 43 00:01:59,354 --> 00:02:01,234 Speaker 2: pushed it all the way to a second season Here 44 00:02:01,274 --> 00:02:03,474 Speaker 2: on the Spill because obviously the first if it you 45 00:02:03,554 --> 00:02:06,634 Speaker 2: haven't watched it, it's Kate Hudson playing this woman who 46 00:02:06,674 --> 00:02:09,553 Speaker 2: takes so for her family's company, which happens to be 47 00:02:09,633 --> 00:02:12,514 Speaker 2: a professional basketball league, and she kind of turns around. 48 00:02:12,754 --> 00:02:15,074 Speaker 2: The first episode a little bit clunky, but as it 49 00:02:15,114 --> 00:02:18,474 Speaker 2: goes along, it's like classic Mindy Kaling, classic Kate Hudson's 50 00:02:18,554 --> 00:02:21,114 Speaker 2: so good. And there's all these kind of smaller shows 51 00:02:21,114 --> 00:02:23,034 Speaker 2: from the first half of the year that were missed, 52 00:02:23,034 --> 00:02:25,194 Speaker 2: Like Adults on Disney Plus. Did you watch that? 53 00:02:25,314 --> 00:02:27,634 Speaker 3: No said, this is the perfect episode for me because 54 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:30,434 Speaker 3: I have the mind of a sieve and I forget 55 00:02:30,434 --> 00:02:32,674 Speaker 3: what happened yesterday. So to be able to like go 56 00:02:32,794 --> 00:02:35,954 Speaker 3: back and relive the first half of twenty twenty five 57 00:02:36,594 --> 00:02:38,874 Speaker 3: is very exciting. I think I'm excited about this one. 58 00:02:38,954 --> 00:02:40,633 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were so many TV shows I feel like 59 00:02:40,634 --> 00:02:42,354 Speaker 2: people missed Social as they come out in one go, 60 00:02:42,434 --> 00:02:44,234 Speaker 2: all the episodes drop, but if you don't watch that 61 00:02:44,274 --> 00:02:46,754 Speaker 2: first week, it kind of gets forgotten. So Adults that 62 00:02:46,754 --> 00:02:48,274 Speaker 2: you can watch on Disney Plus is one that we 63 00:02:48,314 --> 00:02:50,954 Speaker 2: talked about a lot about this group of twenty something 64 00:02:50,994 --> 00:02:53,513 Speaker 2: best friends all finishing college and moving to New York 65 00:02:53,514 --> 00:02:55,674 Speaker 2: and living in the sharehouse and trying to get their 66 00:02:55,714 --> 00:02:58,434 Speaker 2: lives going. It's, yeah, Taylor's old as time, but because 67 00:02:58,474 --> 00:03:01,394 Speaker 2: it's a gen Z show, comes across just you know, 68 00:03:01,594 --> 00:03:03,794 Speaker 2: very different and of its time. At the moment. It 69 00:03:03,874 --> 00:03:05,914 Speaker 2: is one of the only shows that I've watched this 70 00:03:06,034 --> 00:03:08,034 Speaker 2: year where I have to sat in my living room 71 00:03:08,074 --> 00:03:11,074 Speaker 2: watching it alone hysterically laughing. And it takes a lot 72 00:03:11,114 --> 00:03:13,314 Speaker 2: to get me to laugh like I laugh on the inside. 73 00:03:13,354 --> 00:03:16,234 Speaker 2: It's not very often that I would be like cackling out. 74 00:03:16,034 --> 00:03:17,474 Speaker 1: Loud Isaiah M. 75 00:03:17,594 --> 00:03:20,114 Speaker 2: Cackler, Yeah, you would be cackling of this. I'm covering 76 00:03:20,114 --> 00:03:22,274 Speaker 2: her eyes. It's so so good. We also talked about 77 00:03:22,314 --> 00:03:25,154 Speaker 2: the Michelle Williams series Dying for Sex. Did you watch that? 78 00:03:25,274 --> 00:03:25,434 Speaker 4: Oh? 79 00:03:25,554 --> 00:03:27,354 Speaker 1: I love I Love, love love that. 80 00:03:27,554 --> 00:03:29,874 Speaker 3: I listened to that podcast when it first came out, 81 00:03:30,394 --> 00:03:33,754 Speaker 3: and I thought they did such a beautiful job of 82 00:03:34,594 --> 00:03:38,914 Speaker 3: portraying that story because it is based on a true story, 83 00:03:38,994 --> 00:03:41,714 Speaker 3: and I thought it was so like heartwarming and funny, yeah, 84 00:03:41,754 --> 00:03:45,714 Speaker 3: and sweet, And I thought Michelle Williams did an excellent job. 85 00:03:45,874 --> 00:03:47,994 Speaker 2: I was so angry when she didn't win an Emmy. 86 00:03:48,514 --> 00:03:50,714 Speaker 2: I just felt like that was I just thought that 87 00:03:50,754 --> 00:03:54,034 Speaker 2: this was the performance of her career. Her and Jennie Sleep. Oh, 88 00:03:54,154 --> 00:03:56,594 Speaker 2: Jenny's so good in Dying for Sex And it's just 89 00:03:56,634 --> 00:03:59,074 Speaker 2: an incredible show. It was nominated, but it just didn't 90 00:03:59,114 --> 00:04:01,994 Speaker 2: win those big acting awards. But I guess also, like 91 00:04:02,194 --> 00:04:03,994 Speaker 2: you know, everyone's like, oh, Michelle Williams is gonna win 92 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:05,314 Speaker 2: an oscar one day, and I was like, I know, 93 00:04:05,394 --> 00:04:07,314 Speaker 2: this isn't the rules, but can we not just give 94 00:04:07,314 --> 00:04:09,794 Speaker 2: her the oscar for this TV show and just break 95 00:04:09,794 --> 00:04:12,234 Speaker 2: the rules because that was the performance of her career. 96 00:04:12,434 --> 00:04:15,874 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, we hope you enjoyed this episode and 97 00:04:16,313 --> 00:04:18,274 Speaker 3: we will see you back after the break. 98 00:04:19,354 --> 00:04:21,993 Speaker 4: This has been a very tall order to fulfill, so 99 00:04:22,034 --> 00:04:25,073 Speaker 4: I hope that I do the spiller's justice. I feel 100 00:04:25,113 --> 00:04:26,913 Speaker 4: like you and I, Laura watched a lot of TV. 101 00:04:27,034 --> 00:04:30,034 Speaker 4: We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had 102 00:04:30,073 --> 00:04:32,793 Speaker 4: to really think about what I've watched and actually enjoyed. 103 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:35,033 Speaker 2: That's been a new release this year. Yeah, okay, so 104 00:04:35,073 --> 00:04:36,993 Speaker 2: you touch on a good point, because first we're going 105 00:04:37,034 --> 00:04:38,713 Speaker 2: to do rules, because what is the pop culture and 106 00:04:38,753 --> 00:04:42,234 Speaker 2: Entertam podcast without some hard and fast rules type a 107 00:04:42,354 --> 00:04:45,433 Speaker 2: girls stuff. But if anyone breaks, I will yell at them. Okay, 108 00:04:45,474 --> 00:04:48,313 Speaker 2: so not you. No, that was a dick at Emily 109 00:04:48,393 --> 00:04:51,033 Speaker 2: Vedam for when G's on the show. So the criteria 110 00:04:51,034 --> 00:04:52,434 Speaker 2: for this year that we were looking at for the ones. 111 00:04:52,433 --> 00:04:54,954 Speaker 2: We're going to deep dive on TV shows that have 112 00:04:55,034 --> 00:04:58,833 Speaker 2: premiered their first season this year. Okay, the brand new 113 00:04:58,914 --> 00:05:01,593 Speaker 2: TV shows that we were introduced to to the first time. 114 00:05:01,674 --> 00:05:04,233 Speaker 2: So we've picked our faves, but there's a few others 115 00:05:04,234 --> 00:05:04,914 Speaker 2: we wanted to mention. 116 00:05:05,113 --> 00:05:08,193 Speaker 4: Yes, honorable mentions, because what a roundup of the best 117 00:05:08,193 --> 00:05:11,433 Speaker 4: TV without a couple of honorable mentions. Now, these are 118 00:05:11,513 --> 00:05:15,873 Speaker 4: shows that were technically a new season and this year, however, 119 00:05:15,914 --> 00:05:18,274 Speaker 4: not a new show. Of course, we would be so 120 00:05:18,313 --> 00:05:20,193 Speaker 4: silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Ye. 121 00:05:20,313 --> 00:05:23,633 Speaker 2: Season three took us to Thailand this year, brand new cast, 122 00:05:24,073 --> 00:05:26,914 Speaker 2: although a couple of returning cast members. It was so 123 00:05:27,034 --> 00:05:29,674 Speaker 2: nice to see Natasha Rothwell back in this season. Yes, 124 00:05:29,794 --> 00:05:32,113 Speaker 2: and of course I can never remember his name because 125 00:05:32,113 --> 00:05:35,674 Speaker 2: he keeps changing it. Greg. Oh yeah not Greg, yep, 126 00:05:35,834 --> 00:05:38,354 Speaker 2: evil Greg. You can even Greg. Thank you if you 127 00:05:38,393 --> 00:05:39,674 Speaker 2: know you know, and if you don't, you need to 128 00:05:39,714 --> 00:05:41,914 Speaker 2: go back and watch the last two seasons. Are you 129 00:05:41,953 --> 00:05:44,153 Speaker 2: a fan of The White Lotus? Yeah? So see, I 130 00:05:44,154 --> 00:05:45,993 Speaker 2: mean I have my favorite so season two of The 131 00:05:45,993 --> 00:05:48,993 Speaker 2: White Lotus I have watched close to twenty times. Yeah, 132 00:05:49,073 --> 00:05:50,513 Speaker 2: that is like just a lot of something I go 133 00:05:50,594 --> 00:05:53,073 Speaker 2: back to exactly, and then this new season I really 134 00:05:53,113 --> 00:05:55,833 Speaker 2: did love as well. Particularly maybe it's like season two, 135 00:05:56,113 --> 00:05:58,993 Speaker 2: season three then season one. Hard agree with you there. 136 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:00,753 Speaker 4: I think season one was the worst, and I'm like 137 00:06:00,834 --> 00:06:03,233 Speaker 4: almost fearful that people watch that and then didn't return 138 00:06:03,274 --> 00:06:03,873 Speaker 4: for the next No. 139 00:06:04,034 --> 00:06:05,714 Speaker 2: I have told so many people to go and watch 140 00:06:05,753 --> 00:06:07,794 Speaker 2: season two, and they only have recently because of that. 141 00:06:08,073 --> 00:06:10,074 Speaker 2: It's good TV, but it just doesn't. You're the hype 142 00:06:10,113 --> 00:06:11,074 Speaker 2: of the other season. 143 00:06:11,113 --> 00:06:13,393 Speaker 4: I think the point of difference this season was there's 144 00:06:13,393 --> 00:06:16,713 Speaker 4: always like usually one or two standout characters. Obviously Jennifer 145 00:06:16,714 --> 00:06:19,754 Speaker 4: Coolidge's Tanya is a standout character. Aubrey Plaza was a 146 00:06:19,794 --> 00:06:22,834 Speaker 4: standout in season two. This season, I feel like it 147 00:06:22,873 --> 00:06:25,714 Speaker 4: was a three way tie between Chelsea Rick and of 148 00:06:25,714 --> 00:06:29,593 Speaker 4: course Victoria Ratliffe. Oh yes, because like razy yeah play 149 00:06:29,633 --> 00:06:32,633 Speaker 4: the clip here of all of his fabulous one liners. 150 00:06:32,794 --> 00:06:34,673 Speaker 1: We flew over the North Pole. 151 00:06:35,594 --> 00:06:40,553 Speaker 5: Most people don't have good values, they're scammers. 152 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:44,593 Speaker 2: We haven't even seen the place. I promise you it 153 00:06:44,674 --> 00:06:47,274 Speaker 2: is very legit. The monk who runs it he has 154 00:06:47,313 --> 00:06:52,154 Speaker 2: written major books. So Charles Manson wrote books, Bill Clinton 155 00:06:52,193 --> 00:06:53,873 Speaker 2: wrote books. The list goes. 156 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:58,393 Speaker 5: On you're young, you're beautiful. 157 00:06:58,993 --> 00:07:01,633 Speaker 2: Why are you with this middle aged weirdo? 158 00:07:02,154 --> 00:07:05,914 Speaker 4: Piperno, So definitely worth an honorable mention. The other one 159 00:07:05,914 --> 00:07:09,634 Speaker 4: for me, Laura is Big Mouth, which wrapped up its 160 00:07:09,794 --> 00:07:11,353 Speaker 4: eighth and final season. 161 00:07:11,554 --> 00:07:11,794 Speaker 2: Yeah. 162 00:07:11,874 --> 00:07:14,354 Speaker 4: It is such a silly little show and it is 163 00:07:14,393 --> 00:07:19,674 Speaker 4: about absolutely like bonkers, batshit adolescents coming of age hormones. 164 00:07:19,754 --> 00:07:22,754 Speaker 4: It's really really silly, but it has such a banging 165 00:07:22,834 --> 00:07:25,114 Speaker 4: cast and every season they upped in and upped it. 166 00:07:25,194 --> 00:07:28,074 Speaker 4: Like season seven, Megan thee Stallion appeared and just wrapped 167 00:07:28,074 --> 00:07:29,833 Speaker 4: in it and it was just it's so fun and 168 00:07:29,914 --> 00:07:31,154 Speaker 4: silly and I really loved it. 169 00:07:31,554 --> 00:07:33,434 Speaker 2: What about you? What are some of the honorable mentions 170 00:07:33,474 --> 00:07:34,114 Speaker 2: for you? This year? 171 00:07:34,234 --> 00:07:34,434 Speaker 5: Oh? 172 00:07:34,714 --> 00:07:37,034 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna say Apple cided Videgar at the 173 00:07:37,074 --> 00:07:39,674 Speaker 2: top because that is a new season that came out 174 00:07:39,674 --> 00:07:41,833 Speaker 2: this year, but we've just got so many other entries 175 00:07:41,874 --> 00:07:43,434 Speaker 2: we had to sort of bump it up the list. 176 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:46,393 Speaker 2: But obviously that was a huge kind of cultural moment 177 00:07:46,434 --> 00:07:48,273 Speaker 2: as well as being all TV show that everyone in 178 00:07:48,274 --> 00:07:50,754 Speaker 2: the world watched. So we did do a whole brutally 179 00:07:50,794 --> 00:07:52,953 Speaker 2: honest review on it that will link in the show notes, 180 00:07:52,953 --> 00:07:54,914 Speaker 2: So I'll save all of the chatter about that for there. 181 00:07:54,953 --> 00:07:57,194 Speaker 2: Otherwise this podcast is going to be two hours. Yeah, 182 00:07:57,194 --> 00:07:58,754 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I feel like I loved that as 183 00:07:58,754 --> 00:08:00,754 Speaker 2: well because it was an Australian story that gets the 184 00:08:00,794 --> 00:08:02,714 Speaker 2: worlds and it's always nice when the attention is on 185 00:08:02,834 --> 00:08:04,874 Speaker 2: us down under exactly. Listening to so many of the 186 00:08:04,953 --> 00:08:08,914 Speaker 2: American podcasts that are in my weekly podcast rotation, listening 187 00:08:08,953 --> 00:08:11,034 Speaker 2: to them discover that show for the first time because 188 00:08:11,034 --> 00:08:12,794 Speaker 2: they were like, is it fiction? And in happy will 189 00:08:12,794 --> 00:08:15,674 Speaker 2: google it a podcast? Let me check? No, this really happened, 190 00:08:15,754 --> 00:08:17,114 Speaker 2: you know, it didn't happen. And I was like, oh 191 00:08:17,114 --> 00:08:18,994 Speaker 2: my god. I can't wait for you guys to realize 192 00:08:19,074 --> 00:08:20,033 Speaker 2: this is a real story. 193 00:08:20,074 --> 00:08:21,634 Speaker 4: And when you do, go back and listen to the 194 00:08:21,714 --> 00:08:23,954 Speaker 4: quickie because we did a what is factory fiction in 195 00:08:23,994 --> 00:08:24,554 Speaker 4: apple Cider? 196 00:08:24,794 --> 00:08:26,514 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like that's the kind of information that 197 00:08:26,554 --> 00:08:29,393 Speaker 2: people are still looking for now they've watched that show. Okay, 198 00:08:29,474 --> 00:08:31,994 Speaker 2: So getting into the best new TV shows of the 199 00:08:32,074 --> 00:08:35,394 Speaker 2: year so far, what is the first show you're gonna 200 00:08:35,394 --> 00:08:35,834 Speaker 2: put out there? 201 00:08:35,914 --> 00:08:37,874 Speaker 4: Okay, the first one that I'm putting out there is 202 00:08:37,914 --> 00:08:40,514 Speaker 4: from Netflix is four Seasons. 203 00:08:41,034 --> 00:08:43,354 Speaker 2: Have you watched this? Yeah? The Tina fe one right, 204 00:08:43,554 --> 00:08:45,714 Speaker 2: Tina Fey. So created by Tina Fey. 205 00:08:45,874 --> 00:08:48,714 Speaker 4: It's comedy drama, and there's like this really lovely cast 206 00:08:48,754 --> 00:08:51,234 Speaker 4: that goes along with it. So Tina plays Kate and 207 00:08:51,314 --> 00:08:54,514 Speaker 4: her husband is played by Will Forte and he plays Jack, 208 00:08:54,954 --> 00:08:57,274 Speaker 4: And basically they're these three couples, so like Tina Fey 209 00:08:57,314 --> 00:09:00,754 Speaker 4: and Will Forte, Steve Carell's in their Kerrie Kinney, Silver 210 00:09:00,994 --> 00:09:04,674 Speaker 4: Coleman Domingo, and Marco Calvani, and it just sort of 211 00:09:04,754 --> 00:09:08,274 Speaker 4: tracks their relationships with each other them as individuals, but 212 00:09:08,354 --> 00:09:11,474 Speaker 4: like also their intimate partner relationships as they go on 213 00:09:11,554 --> 00:09:13,834 Speaker 4: these seasonal couples. 214 00:09:13,514 --> 00:09:17,074 Speaker 2: Trips like group trips together. A group trip terrifies me. 215 00:09:17,154 --> 00:09:19,754 Speaker 2: I actually hate the idea of it. Really, Yes, I've 216 00:09:19,754 --> 00:09:22,754 Speaker 2: got issues. I know, that's the knee problem. The idea 217 00:09:22,794 --> 00:09:24,714 Speaker 2: of a group trips. This is a horror movie for you. Yeah. 218 00:09:24,754 --> 00:09:28,074 Speaker 4: Well, I really enjoyed it though, because even though things 219 00:09:28,114 --> 00:09:30,674 Speaker 4: do go wrong and one of the relationships breaks down, 220 00:09:31,114 --> 00:09:33,474 Speaker 4: there are these really great moments of joy and light 221 00:09:33,514 --> 00:09:38,194 Speaker 4: and funny in an otherwise quite dramatic and sometimes sad series. 222 00:09:38,714 --> 00:09:40,794 Speaker 4: But what I actually really like about this, Laura, is 223 00:09:40,834 --> 00:09:42,354 Speaker 4: I feel like, at the moment there has been this 224 00:09:42,514 --> 00:09:47,194 Speaker 4: massive resurgence in shows about teens or teen dramas, teen comedy, 225 00:09:47,234 --> 00:09:50,234 Speaker 4: young adult sort of stuff, and this focuses on characters 226 00:09:50,234 --> 00:09:52,354 Speaker 4: that are in that next phase of life and the 227 00:09:52,394 --> 00:09:55,554 Speaker 4: complications and the nuance that happens in amongst those storylines. 228 00:09:55,994 --> 00:09:58,514 Speaker 4: So I really liked it for that reason. You've seen it, 229 00:09:58,674 --> 00:09:58,874 Speaker 4: did you? 230 00:09:58,994 --> 00:10:01,314 Speaker 2: Yes? Now, I really liked it, And I also love that, like, 231 00:10:01,394 --> 00:10:03,874 Speaker 2: Tina Fey has just been off our screens for so long, 232 00:10:04,194 --> 00:10:06,554 Speaker 2: and she obviously does a lot of creating and producing 233 00:10:06,554 --> 00:10:08,994 Speaker 2: behind the scene, but it's the first time she's come 234 00:10:09,034 --> 00:10:12,234 Speaker 2: back as a lead actor in a project like this. Like, 235 00:10:12,274 --> 00:10:13,674 Speaker 2: I loved her in the show, but I also loved 236 00:10:13,674 --> 00:10:16,194 Speaker 2: watching her do the press rounds before it because she said, 237 00:10:16,474 --> 00:10:19,554 Speaker 2: the day you're allowed to like post reviews, she jumped online. 238 00:10:19,594 --> 00:10:21,514 Speaker 2: She was looking at the reviews and the top most 239 00:10:21,594 --> 00:10:24,434 Speaker 2: like comment on a review was from a woman called Ronda, 240 00:10:24,474 --> 00:10:27,233 Speaker 2: being like, Tina Fey is the worst actress in the world, 241 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:29,594 Speaker 2: and she was like a U back in the biz, 242 00:10:30,514 --> 00:10:32,794 Speaker 2: which I loved for her. Love that A question, though, 243 00:10:32,794 --> 00:10:34,674 Speaker 2: if you're a really big fan, what did you think 244 00:10:34,714 --> 00:10:36,594 Speaker 2: of the fact that it's coming back for another season 245 00:10:36,634 --> 00:10:38,994 Speaker 2: because I found that quite jarring. I thought it felt 246 00:10:39,034 --> 00:10:40,314 Speaker 2: like a one and done show. 247 00:10:40,514 --> 00:10:43,794 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I hold the unpopular opinion that most television 248 00:10:43,834 --> 00:10:45,674 Speaker 4: shows should end after one season. 249 00:10:45,754 --> 00:10:48,154 Speaker 2: Okay, you and I do disagree on that. 250 00:10:48,234 --> 00:10:50,154 Speaker 4: Mostly I know it is a hill that I'll die 251 00:10:50,154 --> 00:10:51,434 Speaker 4: on and we don't have time to go, and all 252 00:10:51,474 --> 00:10:52,274 Speaker 4: the other examples. 253 00:10:52,394 --> 00:10:54,474 Speaker 2: This was a one and done for me. Well, that's 254 00:10:54,474 --> 00:10:56,114 Speaker 2: why I thought it was jarring, because this is one 255 00:10:56,154 --> 00:10:57,754 Speaker 2: of the rat instances where I agree with you because 256 00:10:57,834 --> 00:11:00,474 Speaker 2: usually if I love a show, I need ten seasons 257 00:11:00,474 --> 00:11:04,634 Speaker 2: minimum and episodes old school TV, that's what I want. 258 00:11:04,714 --> 00:11:07,114 Speaker 2: But this one, I'm like, oh, that felt quite self contained. 259 00:11:07,194 --> 00:11:09,714 Speaker 2: But it is coming up pro second season, so we'll 260 00:11:09,754 --> 00:11:12,234 Speaker 2: see and then I'm asly gonna watch it because Clemen Domingo, 261 00:11:12,594 --> 00:11:15,594 Speaker 2: but he was the standout for me. Obviously that man 262 00:11:15,634 --> 00:11:18,234 Speaker 2: should be in every single TV show. Well, speaking of 263 00:11:18,274 --> 00:11:19,634 Speaker 2: men that feel like they're in a lot of different 264 00:11:19,634 --> 00:11:21,314 Speaker 2: TV shows, I mean, this guy's kind of made a 265 00:11:21,354 --> 00:11:22,874 Speaker 2: bit of a comeback. I want to talk about The 266 00:11:22,914 --> 00:11:25,954 Speaker 2: Pit that's on Max, which has been a huge TV 267 00:11:25,994 --> 00:11:27,954 Speaker 2: show that's come out in the second half of this year. 268 00:11:28,034 --> 00:11:31,714 Speaker 2: So it's a medical procedural drama, which I try sometimes 269 00:11:31,714 --> 00:11:33,994 Speaker 2: not to watch because I am a hypochondriact. I've had 270 00:11:34,034 --> 00:11:36,074 Speaker 2: to ban myself from watching Gray's Anatomy. This is a 271 00:11:36,154 --> 00:11:38,474 Speaker 2: surprise take from you, No I know. Well, other thing 272 00:11:38,554 --> 00:11:39,794 Speaker 2: is like I feel like I'm like I should say 273 00:11:39,794 --> 00:11:42,394 Speaker 2: this for the people, because like it is arguably one 274 00:11:42,434 --> 00:11:44,434 Speaker 2: of the best new TV shows of the year, but 275 00:11:44,674 --> 00:11:46,794 Speaker 2: it does make me feel like I'm close to death 276 00:11:46,874 --> 00:11:49,434 Speaker 2: as I watch it. So these are the sacrifices I 277 00:11:49,474 --> 00:11:52,114 Speaker 2: make for the spillers. So what's interesting about this is 278 00:11:52,114 --> 00:11:54,834 Speaker 2: that it's created by a Scott Gemmel and its stars 279 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:58,394 Speaker 2: Noah Wiley. And Gammel was actually one of the big 280 00:11:58,434 --> 00:12:01,634 Speaker 2: people who created Er, that huge medical show that was 281 00:12:01,674 --> 00:12:05,154 Speaker 2: on decades ago now and Noah Whiley who's one of 282 00:12:05,154 --> 00:12:07,314 Speaker 2: the stars of Ar. So like in the original it 283 00:12:07,354 --> 00:12:09,154 Speaker 2: was like George Clooney at the start of his career 284 00:12:09,154 --> 00:12:11,194 Speaker 2: and Noel Wiley as the two leads of that show. 285 00:12:11,234 --> 00:12:14,194 Speaker 2: People are obsessed with them. They played doctors on Friends 286 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:16,474 Speaker 2: like that was an injury because it was such a 287 00:12:16,554 --> 00:12:19,714 Speaker 2: big thing. And so in this it tracks the story 288 00:12:19,834 --> 00:12:22,434 Speaker 2: of what's happening in an ear and it does that 289 00:12:22,474 --> 00:12:25,314 Speaker 2: thing that twenty four did is that it covers fifteen 290 00:12:25,354 --> 00:12:29,514 Speaker 2: hours of an er shift, but every hour in their 291 00:12:29,554 --> 00:12:31,674 Speaker 2: shift is an hour of the TV show. So it's 292 00:12:31,754 --> 00:12:36,034 Speaker 2: super fast paced, super intense. Noel Wiley's back playing a doctor, 293 00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:39,034 Speaker 2: but like in ar he was a very young doctor 294 00:12:39,114 --> 00:12:41,474 Speaker 2: just starting his career, and in this he's like moreo, 295 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,794 Speaker 2: a kind of seasoned expert. 296 00:12:44,034 --> 00:12:47,114 Speaker 4: Okay, my question for you, Laurie is I loved Gray's 297 00:12:47,154 --> 00:12:51,154 Speaker 4: Anatomy for like maybe the first twelve seasons, but then 298 00:12:51,434 --> 00:12:53,514 Speaker 4: it got stuck in that thing of it's a rinse 299 00:12:53,594 --> 00:12:56,274 Speaker 4: repeat right, like you go in, there's a medical issue, 300 00:12:56,354 --> 00:12:56,954 Speaker 4: let's sold it. 301 00:12:56,994 --> 00:12:59,714 Speaker 2: Okay, move on to the next episode. Does the pit 302 00:12:59,794 --> 00:13:02,194 Speaker 2: fall victim to that or have they been able to 303 00:13:02,354 --> 00:13:04,554 Speaker 2: negate to an extent. It'll be interesting to see what 304 00:13:04,594 --> 00:13:06,634 Speaker 2: happens with the next few seasons because right now, like 305 00:13:06,674 --> 00:13:08,554 Speaker 2: it feels so fresh, because you're getting to know these 306 00:13:08,634 --> 00:13:11,314 Speaker 2: characters and all the different doctors, and because it's so 307 00:13:11,394 --> 00:13:13,834 Speaker 2: fast paced, like every minute you're watching it is a 308 00:13:13,874 --> 00:13:16,074 Speaker 2: minute in their lives, and they're bringing in all these 309 00:13:16,074 --> 00:13:19,234 Speaker 2: different cases. And because it's the emergency room, it's very 310 00:13:19,314 --> 00:13:22,514 Speaker 2: kind of like triage life or death, getting people in quickly, 311 00:13:22,674 --> 00:13:24,994 Speaker 2: so it kind of I think needs a second season 312 00:13:25,034 --> 00:13:26,794 Speaker 2: to see if it's gonna wear off. But right now, 313 00:13:26,834 --> 00:13:30,194 Speaker 2: it like weirdly feels very fresh in medical shows feel 314 00:13:30,194 --> 00:13:33,194 Speaker 2: done to death, and it's not all about like doctors 315 00:13:33,234 --> 00:13:36,674 Speaker 2: hooking up in on kroom prosms and stuff. Yeah, which, 316 00:13:36,754 --> 00:13:38,354 Speaker 2: to be fair, is the only reason I want to watch. 317 00:13:38,354 --> 00:13:40,074 Speaker 2: Goes out to me, like I want to see people dying. 318 00:13:40,354 --> 00:13:42,074 Speaker 2: I just want to know about people hooking up and 319 00:13:42,114 --> 00:13:44,354 Speaker 2: on call rooms, which apparently doesn't happen that much, my 320 00:13:44,434 --> 00:13:47,394 Speaker 2: sister tells me. But interesting fact about this is like, 321 00:13:47,594 --> 00:13:49,634 Speaker 2: and I kind of haven't helped the situation because I 322 00:13:49,674 --> 00:13:52,234 Speaker 2: just said ER about five times. Yeah. But the widow 323 00:13:52,354 --> 00:13:55,354 Speaker 2: of the other creator of ER is suing the show 324 00:13:55,874 --> 00:13:58,674 Speaker 2: because she says like it's damaging the legacy of ER 325 00:13:58,834 --> 00:14:02,034 Speaker 2: and a blatant ripoff. She was like, basically, and I'm 326 00:14:02,034 --> 00:14:05,274 Speaker 2: paraphrasing all her legal documents here, but basically she's saying, 327 00:14:05,594 --> 00:14:07,554 Speaker 2: Noah Wiley was a star of ER and he played 328 00:14:07,554 --> 00:14:09,754 Speaker 2: a doctor, and he's playing a doctor here with the 329 00:14:09,914 --> 00:14:12,074 Speaker 2: other people who worked on R. So she's like, you've 330 00:14:12,074 --> 00:14:16,634 Speaker 2: basically taken AR and revamped it into this knockoff show 331 00:14:17,034 --> 00:14:20,794 Speaker 2: that's capitalizing on her dead husband's legacy, and NOELH. Wiley 332 00:14:20,834 --> 00:14:22,754 Speaker 2: has put out a statement saying he's really saddened that 333 00:14:22,834 --> 00:14:25,834 Speaker 2: this is happening. But yeah, they are getting sued by EAR. 334 00:14:26,034 --> 00:14:28,274 Speaker 2: So that's a lot to see what happens there. 335 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:30,514 Speaker 4: I think do people not yet know that no idea 336 00:14:30,634 --> 00:14:31,834 Speaker 4: is original anymore? 337 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:33,954 Speaker 2: I know, No, it's I think it's the fact that 338 00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:36,994 Speaker 2: she feels that they're really capitalizing because they keep saying 339 00:14:36,994 --> 00:14:39,634 Speaker 2: like if you love DR, but not that their official 340 00:14:39,674 --> 00:14:41,794 Speaker 2: marketing says that, but like the vibe online is like 341 00:14:41,834 --> 00:14:44,074 Speaker 2: if you love d R, this is EAR in a 342 00:14:44,114 --> 00:14:48,594 Speaker 2: different way. Okay, so one season of that this year 343 00:14:48,634 --> 00:14:52,474 Speaker 2: so far. Yes, I fear that I'm about to. 344 00:14:52,474 --> 00:14:57,194 Speaker 4: Lose you with Oh okay, next recommendation again from Netflix. 345 00:14:57,354 --> 00:15:00,674 Speaker 4: This is a docu series called Power Moves based on 346 00:15:00,714 --> 00:15:01,114 Speaker 4: that name. 347 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:03,754 Speaker 2: What do you think it's about? Okay, I'm intrigued. I'm 348 00:15:03,754 --> 00:15:07,914 Speaker 2: not completely turned off. Power Moves debts well, bless you 349 00:15:07,954 --> 00:15:12,954 Speaker 2: a little corporate esponage? What something else? I would wrestling? 350 00:15:13,754 --> 00:15:15,074 Speaker 2: I would have watched the shit out of that. You 351 00:15:15,234 --> 00:15:16,794 Speaker 2: peached my three interests. Okay. 352 00:15:16,834 --> 00:15:20,354 Speaker 4: Power Moves is a Netflix docu series that follows NBA 353 00:15:20,474 --> 00:15:23,994 Speaker 4: legends Shaquille O'Neil and Alan Iverson as they lead Rebox 354 00:15:24,034 --> 00:15:27,354 Speaker 4: comeback from the brand's Boston headquarters. Does anything from that 355 00:15:27,434 --> 00:15:28,274 Speaker 4: sentence appeal to you? 356 00:15:28,354 --> 00:15:31,594 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've seen air maybe Michael Jordan's shoes, 357 00:15:31,594 --> 00:15:35,674 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of invested. I don't know if NBA, 358 00:15:36,194 --> 00:15:39,474 Speaker 2: which is basketball well done and shoes is really like 359 00:15:39,594 --> 00:15:43,154 Speaker 2: my two points of interest. Okay, I guess it's about 360 00:15:43,154 --> 00:15:45,554 Speaker 2: teaching you things. I'm probably not gonna watch this one 361 00:15:46,474 --> 00:15:48,754 Speaker 2: out there, But do you know who Shaquille O'Neil is. Yeah, 362 00:15:48,794 --> 00:15:51,194 Speaker 2: he's a really famous basketball player, right, but that's half 363 00:15:51,194 --> 00:15:54,634 Speaker 2: the struggle. Yeah, do you know who the other guy was? No, Okay, couldn't. 364 00:15:55,034 --> 00:15:57,114 Speaker 2: I don't know that man, And to be honest, don't 365 00:15:57,114 --> 00:16:00,794 Speaker 2: ask many four questions about Shaquille O'Neill. I just know 366 00:16:00,994 --> 00:16:03,714 Speaker 2: that he was a basketball player. He is really super tall, 367 00:16:03,794 --> 00:16:06,274 Speaker 2: which the fact that he's a basketball player isn't And 368 00:16:06,394 --> 00:16:09,914 Speaker 2: he's going to do media stuff, right, Yeah, well done, Laura. 369 00:16:10,314 --> 00:16:12,234 Speaker 2: That's probably how I know. Yes, he's a media and 370 00:16:12,274 --> 00:16:13,594 Speaker 2: basketball commentator. Okay. 371 00:16:13,634 --> 00:16:16,834 Speaker 4: So basically, Rebook were one of the leading shoes in 372 00:16:16,874 --> 00:16:19,514 Speaker 4: the NBA. So lots of basketball players would wear them. 373 00:16:19,554 --> 00:16:22,234 Speaker 4: They had lots of sponsorship deals with players. They dropped 374 00:16:22,234 --> 00:16:23,314 Speaker 4: and fell from obscurity. 375 00:16:23,434 --> 00:16:24,274 Speaker 2: Shaq is back. 376 00:16:24,634 --> 00:16:27,834 Speaker 4: He's now the president of Rebok Basketball and it's his task, 377 00:16:27,874 --> 00:16:30,354 Speaker 4: along with the vice president, Alan Iverson. They're both big 378 00:16:30,394 --> 00:16:35,234 Speaker 4: basketball players, to relaunch the Rebok basketball shoe brand. If 379 00:16:35,234 --> 00:16:37,594 Speaker 4: that doesn't sound like something you're into, that's totally fine. 380 00:16:37,674 --> 00:16:39,714 Speaker 2: Laura is not gonna watch it, but maybe you will. 381 00:16:40,234 --> 00:16:42,794 Speaker 4: If you liked that film by Ben Affleck Air, which 382 00:16:42,834 --> 00:16:44,314 Speaker 4: was about making the Air Jordan. 383 00:16:44,714 --> 00:16:49,114 Speaker 2: This is like that but real, Okay, that's real. Well 384 00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:54,874 Speaker 2: it was ATFLIC. Wasn't involved, and I'm telling you one 385 00:16:54,954 --> 00:16:57,154 Speaker 2: hundred percent, Ben Affleck was not involved. He was like, 386 00:16:57,234 --> 00:16:59,354 Speaker 2: I'm rich, I love Air Jordan's let me make a 387 00:16:59,354 --> 00:17:00,834 Speaker 2: movie about it. This is real. 388 00:17:00,954 --> 00:17:01,754 Speaker 1: I love that. 389 00:17:02,234 --> 00:17:03,874 Speaker 2: What you get at the crux of this is a 390 00:17:04,154 --> 00:17:06,674 Speaker 2: massive marketing point. Absolutely, I have the shoes in my 391 00:17:06,714 --> 00:17:09,474 Speaker 2: cart to ches now. But you actually get to see 392 00:17:09,554 --> 00:17:11,553 Speaker 2: this side of Shack that we've known about for a 393 00:17:11,594 --> 00:17:13,674 Speaker 2: long time, but it is on full display where he 394 00:17:13,794 --> 00:17:17,434 Speaker 2: is just this giant and I literally do mean giant dork. 395 00:17:17,874 --> 00:17:21,514 Speaker 2: He is goofy, he is silly, he is the epitome 396 00:17:21,514 --> 00:17:24,474 Speaker 2: of a gentle giant but thrown into this like very 397 00:17:24,514 --> 00:17:27,354 Speaker 2: corporate world of like how to make shoes and how 398 00:17:27,394 --> 00:17:31,874 Speaker 2: to be a professional you know, sport brand, but with 399 00:17:31,914 --> 00:17:34,834 Speaker 2: the side of Shack and the side of Alan Iverson. Okay, look, 400 00:17:35,074 --> 00:17:40,634 Speaker 2: I'm not against it. I respect it. I just don't 401 00:17:40,634 --> 00:17:42,674 Speaker 2: know if it's for me, but I respect I respect it. 402 00:17:42,714 --> 00:17:44,994 Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows 403 00:17:45,474 --> 00:17:48,954 Speaker 2: have time to go into exactly exactly the other show 404 00:17:48,994 --> 00:17:50,914 Speaker 2: I wanted to mention. I feel like this has just 405 00:17:51,034 --> 00:17:54,434 Speaker 2: been such a cultural moment that has lasted for a 406 00:17:54,554 --> 00:17:57,114 Speaker 2: very long time since it first aired, which is Adolescents 407 00:17:57,154 --> 00:18:01,313 Speaker 2: on Netflix. So that's the British psychological series that centered 408 00:18:01,354 --> 00:18:04,194 Speaker 2: on a thirteen year old boy who was arrested after 409 00:18:04,234 --> 00:18:06,674 Speaker 2: a murder of a girl in his school. And there 410 00:18:06,754 --> 00:18:09,434 Speaker 2: was so many huge takeaways from this show. One is 411 00:18:09,474 --> 00:18:11,793 Speaker 2: that it was one of those shows that did just 412 00:18:12,314 --> 00:18:14,273 Speaker 2: usually with Netflix you can kind of predict what are 413 00:18:14,274 --> 00:18:17,594 Speaker 2: going to be these really big talking points and moments, 414 00:18:17,634 --> 00:18:20,474 Speaker 2: and like we get to watch them beforehand before they premiere, 415 00:18:20,514 --> 00:18:23,154 Speaker 2: and we have these big content plans, and even Netflix 416 00:18:23,194 --> 00:18:25,394 Speaker 2: I think was shocked of how quickly this took off 417 00:18:25,394 --> 00:18:27,833 Speaker 2: from when they just dropped it onto the platform. There 418 00:18:27,834 --> 00:18:29,313 Speaker 2: were so many things at the making of it, in 419 00:18:29,394 --> 00:18:31,394 Speaker 2: terms of how they source the cast, and also the 420 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,834 Speaker 2: fact that it was all each episode shot in one 421 00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:38,474 Speaker 2: continuous movement, which is like performing a live stage play 422 00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:42,394 Speaker 2: perfectly in every take. Like it's masterful camera work. 423 00:18:42,474 --> 00:18:44,793 Speaker 4: The only other example that I know of that in 424 00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:48,874 Speaker 4: my mind that pulled that off incredibly was that film Birdman. Yes, yes, 425 00:18:49,274 --> 00:18:51,593 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine what it is like to film 426 00:18:51,634 --> 00:18:53,474 Speaker 4: something like that, let alone be on the other side 427 00:18:53,514 --> 00:18:56,154 Speaker 4: of the camera and to be performing. Yeah, I was 428 00:18:56,194 --> 00:18:58,754 Speaker 4: reading when they were making Adolescents, they would start at like, 429 00:18:59,034 --> 00:19:01,513 Speaker 4: you know, the crack of dawn. Do they one full, 430 00:19:01,554 --> 00:19:03,954 Speaker 4: massive sweeping take and they get one more crack at 431 00:19:03,954 --> 00:19:04,994 Speaker 4: it up before some doown. 432 00:19:05,514 --> 00:19:08,114 Speaker 2: That is a lot of pressure to kind of get 433 00:19:08,154 --> 00:19:10,434 Speaker 2: it pitch perfect in all of those moments. It was 434 00:19:10,474 --> 00:19:14,114 Speaker 2: a difficult watch sometimes, but just the cultural conversations it started. 435 00:19:14,514 --> 00:19:16,474 Speaker 2: We had so many people like writing into us and 436 00:19:16,514 --> 00:19:18,754 Speaker 2: writing articles and saying that like they either watched it 437 00:19:18,754 --> 00:19:20,794 Speaker 2: with their kids or they went into their kids afterwards 438 00:19:20,794 --> 00:19:22,514 Speaker 2: to talk to about it. It just launched all these 439 00:19:22,554 --> 00:19:25,553 Speaker 2: conversations and yeah, just like one of those pieces of 440 00:19:25,594 --> 00:19:27,674 Speaker 2: TV that I feel like it really stays with you 441 00:19:28,154 --> 00:19:29,954 Speaker 2: after you've watched it. I think you're so right. 442 00:19:29,954 --> 00:19:33,434 Speaker 4: This stirred up so many conversations and really raised this 443 00:19:33,554 --> 00:19:36,554 Speaker 4: question that maybe also spread a bit of panic amongst 444 00:19:36,674 --> 00:19:39,954 Speaker 4: young parents and people who are maybe thinking about becoming parents, 445 00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,714 Speaker 4: which we tried to answer on the Quickie as well, 446 00:19:42,834 --> 00:19:45,634 Speaker 4: like what is the answer to the question that adolescence poses? 447 00:19:45,834 --> 00:19:47,234 Speaker 4: But it turns out that it's not all doom and 448 00:19:47,274 --> 00:19:50,194 Speaker 4: gloom like there is apparently some you know, hope for 449 00:19:50,194 --> 00:19:52,553 Speaker 4: the younger generation that it is good to hear. I 450 00:19:52,594 --> 00:19:54,674 Speaker 4: think that, like, you know, it's so easy to say 451 00:19:54,714 --> 00:19:56,553 Speaker 4: this is one of those shows that will sweep award 452 00:19:56,634 --> 00:19:57,234 Speaker 4: season and. 453 00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:59,434 Speaker 2: It will be given all of the acclaim and victory. 454 00:19:59,474 --> 00:20:03,634 Speaker 4: But I do think, like rightfully so that one take 455 00:20:03,674 --> 00:20:05,474 Speaker 4: thing we said was really hard to do, and it's 456 00:20:05,514 --> 00:20:07,754 Speaker 4: even harder to do when it's something of such severe, 457 00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:10,553 Speaker 4: like serious content. So props to the whole people that 458 00:20:10,594 --> 00:20:11,313 Speaker 4: were involved in that. 459 00:20:11,674 --> 00:20:13,234 Speaker 2: And if you haven't watched it because you were turned 460 00:20:13,234 --> 00:20:15,874 Speaker 2: off by I guess just like the very brutal themes 461 00:20:15,874 --> 00:20:17,874 Speaker 2: in it, I'd say still go back and watch it. 462 00:20:17,914 --> 00:20:20,114 Speaker 2: Because you kind of get swept away in the story. 463 00:20:20,234 --> 00:20:23,354 Speaker 2: It's worth the anxiety. Of course, it's only four parts 464 00:20:23,354 --> 00:20:25,114 Speaker 2: as well, so yeah, you don't have to commit, you know, 465 00:20:25,274 --> 00:20:28,034 Speaker 2: nice little Saturday night binge. Sure, I'm not sure who's 466 00:20:28,034 --> 00:20:29,154 Speaker 2: watching that on a Saturday night. 467 00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:32,954 Speaker 4: I don't do that, absolutely, Okay, change your pace here 468 00:20:32,994 --> 00:20:35,634 Speaker 4: and heading across to Disney Plus for a. 469 00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:38,634 Speaker 2: Show and a man who I love. I think you 470 00:20:38,674 --> 00:20:42,394 Speaker 2: do as well, Laura Tucci in Italy. Oh yeah, hot 471 00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:47,634 Speaker 2: and also culturally important, but yeah important. It's a lot 472 00:20:47,634 --> 00:20:50,194 Speaker 2: of my identity in there. But Stanley Tucci is the 473 00:20:50,234 --> 00:20:50,674 Speaker 2: name thing. 474 00:20:51,674 --> 00:20:57,874 Speaker 5: Whoa that is delicious? Oh man, you stomach? Wow, Now 475 00:20:57,914 --> 00:21:03,034 Speaker 5: I'm I'm more hungry. 476 00:21:04,194 --> 00:21:05,314 Speaker 1: I'm Stanley Tucci. 477 00:21:05,674 --> 00:21:08,194 Speaker 5: And I believe that's the best way to understand what 478 00:21:08,314 --> 00:21:14,194 Speaker 5: makes a country and it's people unique is through their food. Okay, manjamo, 479 00:21:14,634 --> 00:21:17,273 Speaker 5: And this is true nowhere more than Italy. 480 00:21:17,554 --> 00:21:18,354 Speaker 1: Yeah is a secret. 481 00:21:18,674 --> 00:21:20,754 Speaker 5: Oh really, because it's going to go on television and 482 00:21:20,754 --> 00:21:24,553 Speaker 5: then where even the shape of your pasta and the 483 00:21:24,594 --> 00:21:27,994 Speaker 5: sauce you serve it with. I love that differentiates the 484 00:21:28,074 --> 00:21:31,794 Speaker 5: character and history of each region sharply from the next. 485 00:21:32,234 --> 00:21:33,474 Speaker 2: I just smell that. 486 00:21:35,594 --> 00:21:40,474 Speaker 5: It is amazing. You have sustained this culture for thousands 487 00:21:40,514 --> 00:21:41,033 Speaker 5: of years. 488 00:21:42,354 --> 00:21:42,634 Speaker 2: Now. 489 00:21:42,954 --> 00:21:45,674 Speaker 4: I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically does 490 00:21:45,794 --> 00:21:46,994 Speaker 4: not break the rules. 491 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:48,794 Speaker 2: Oh rely, and this is going to happen. 492 00:21:49,394 --> 00:21:53,034 Speaker 4: So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley 493 00:21:53,074 --> 00:21:56,434 Speaker 4: Tucci searching for Italy. Completely different shows. They were on 494 00:21:56,514 --> 00:21:57,274 Speaker 4: different networks. 495 00:21:57,314 --> 00:21:59,674 Speaker 2: Hey, that one there was from CNN in ed and 496 00:21:59,714 --> 00:22:01,234 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one and twenty two. 497 00:22:01,714 --> 00:22:04,834 Speaker 4: This is Tucci in Italy. It's a nat GEO production 498 00:22:05,234 --> 00:22:07,874 Speaker 4: which we get to watch via Disney Plus. Is the 499 00:22:07,914 --> 00:22:10,593 Speaker 4: premise pretty much the same, where Stanley Tucci is just 500 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:14,074 Speaker 4: being adorable and traversing Italy and eating all the food 501 00:22:14,114 --> 00:22:15,313 Speaker 4: and engaging with the locals and. 502 00:22:15,314 --> 00:22:17,514 Speaker 2: All the different regions. Absolutely. 503 00:22:17,954 --> 00:22:19,514 Speaker 4: Am I still gonna make a case that you should 504 00:22:19,554 --> 00:22:20,874 Speaker 4: watch it because it came out this year. 505 00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:23,234 Speaker 2: Absolutely, That's all I want from that man. Rape. I 506 00:22:23,274 --> 00:22:25,154 Speaker 2: just want him to go through Italy and I want 507 00:22:25,194 --> 00:22:27,474 Speaker 2: him to roll up his shirt sleeves and show off 508 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:30,634 Speaker 2: his little buff tad and I want him to explain 509 00:22:30,714 --> 00:22:32,954 Speaker 2: to me the different flavors of wine and the cheese 510 00:22:32,994 --> 00:22:35,073 Speaker 2: and why I should have a particular sandwich and why 511 00:22:35,154 --> 00:22:37,354 Speaker 2: should get wine from particular places. All I want from 512 00:22:37,354 --> 00:22:39,714 Speaker 2: that man, Well, that's all you get from exactly. Well, 513 00:22:39,714 --> 00:22:41,074 Speaker 2: that and for him to be in The Devil wes 514 00:22:41,114 --> 00:22:41,714 Speaker 2: pritus equal. 515 00:22:41,754 --> 00:22:43,354 Speaker 4: There's two things I want from that man, and he's 516 00:22:43,394 --> 00:22:46,794 Speaker 4: delivered one well interestingly. So the reason that I knew 517 00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:49,074 Speaker 4: about this show before any marketing kicked me is because 518 00:22:49,074 --> 00:22:51,394 Speaker 4: he talked about it literally NonStop. 519 00:22:51,434 --> 00:22:53,634 Speaker 2: I reckon every chapter. There was a mention of making 520 00:22:53,674 --> 00:22:55,793 Speaker 2: this show in his latest book, What I Ate In 521 00:22:55,794 --> 00:22:58,674 Speaker 2: One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that came out 522 00:22:58,674 --> 00:23:01,634 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, he spoke so fondly of 523 00:23:01,674 --> 00:23:04,834 Speaker 2: working with Meryl Streep and like they have this beautiful relationship. 524 00:23:04,874 --> 00:23:06,354 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, if he's not in The Devil 525 00:23:06,514 --> 00:23:10,154 Speaker 2: was prior to with Meryl Stree, Yeah, I will be devastated. Well, 526 00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:13,194 Speaker 2: he's married to Emily Blunt's sister as well. Yes, they met. 527 00:23:13,234 --> 00:23:15,874 Speaker 2: I'll just become a deaf worst protetect, which if you 528 00:23:15,914 --> 00:23:17,874 Speaker 2: don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly. 529 00:23:17,914 --> 00:23:17,994 Speaker 4: No. 530 00:23:18,074 --> 00:23:20,074 Speaker 2: Well, he even Emily bomb DeVos prior and she's like, 531 00:23:20,114 --> 00:23:22,274 Speaker 2: you love my sister introduced them and now they're married 532 00:23:22,274 --> 00:23:22,714 Speaker 2: with children. 533 00:23:22,794 --> 00:23:24,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife in 534 00:23:24,714 --> 00:23:27,954 Speaker 4: the city. Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes, 535 00:23:28,034 --> 00:23:30,194 Speaker 4: Tucci in Italy, it does what it says in the box. 536 00:23:30,474 --> 00:23:32,194 Speaker 4: It is a box worth opening. I think it's like 537 00:23:32,274 --> 00:23:35,434 Speaker 4: six episodes in Disney Pluss. Oh my god, so lovely. Well, 538 00:23:35,474 --> 00:23:36,994 Speaker 4: I'm going to keep us on Disney Plus. 539 00:23:37,034 --> 00:23:40,074 Speaker 2: But take us to a very different section, Okay, which 540 00:23:40,114 --> 00:23:43,474 Speaker 2: is the TV show Dying for Sex. Okay, this TV show, 541 00:23:43,514 --> 00:23:46,314 Speaker 2: I wonder what it's about. Yeah, I mean well buckling 542 00:23:46,714 --> 00:23:48,874 Speaker 2: because it doesn't exactly do what it says in the 543 00:23:48,914 --> 00:23:51,954 Speaker 2: teen in a way. So this show has completely stayed 544 00:23:51,954 --> 00:23:54,594 Speaker 2: with me. And it's based on a true story. So 545 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,033 Speaker 2: it's based on the story of Molly Ktran who was 546 00:23:57,114 --> 00:24:00,513 Speaker 2: an American podcaster. She lived in LA and after she 547 00:24:00,594 --> 00:24:04,154 Speaker 2: was diagnosed with terminal cancer, she decided to blow up 548 00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:06,754 Speaker 2: her life. She separated from her husband and she wanted 549 00:24:06,794 --> 00:24:10,154 Speaker 2: this kind of odyssey to discover what she wanted from sex, 550 00:24:10,154 --> 00:24:13,033 Speaker 2: from herself, from partners, and she documented it all this 551 00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:16,434 Speaker 2: podcast and Michelle Williams plays her in the TV show 552 00:24:16,554 --> 00:24:19,154 Speaker 2: and she is incredible. Like I know, this is a 553 00:24:19,194 --> 00:24:23,154 Speaker 2: TV show, but also Michelle Williams is due her it's 554 00:24:23,234 --> 00:24:25,634 Speaker 2: time Oscar because she's one of those actresses who's been 555 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:28,994 Speaker 2: so incredible and has been nominated for an Oscar so 556 00:24:28,994 --> 00:24:31,114 Speaker 2: many times, and it gets that point where they'll just 557 00:24:31,154 --> 00:24:33,594 Speaker 2: give it to her for something, just for her career. Yeah, 558 00:24:33,594 --> 00:24:35,474 Speaker 2: And I was like, I know, like this is breaking 559 00:24:35,514 --> 00:24:37,354 Speaker 2: the rules, but just give her the Oscar for dying 560 00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:41,274 Speaker 2: for sex because it is the performance of her career. Wow. 561 00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:45,034 Speaker 2: She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slat 562 00:24:45,154 --> 00:24:47,434 Speaker 2: plays her best friend based on the real woman in 563 00:24:47,474 --> 00:24:50,194 Speaker 2: the show. And as much as it's a show about 564 00:24:50,234 --> 00:24:54,513 Speaker 2: Michelle Williams's character signing out she has terminal cancer, leaving 565 00:24:54,514 --> 00:24:56,994 Speaker 2: her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this 566 00:24:57,074 --> 00:25:01,273 Speaker 2: like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending 567 00:25:01,314 --> 00:25:04,154 Speaker 2: her relationship with her a strange mother, it's really about 568 00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:07,114 Speaker 2: these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slate's 569 00:25:07,274 --> 00:25:09,914 Speaker 2: character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking 570 00:25:09,954 --> 00:25:13,033 Speaker 2: scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dyeing 571 00:25:13,074 --> 00:25:16,434 Speaker 2: and Jenny Slayts's character is supporting her through it all 572 00:25:16,514 --> 00:25:17,754 Speaker 2: and they say to her like should we take the 573 00:25:17,754 --> 00:25:20,313 Speaker 2: breathing tubout? But she could die, and she's just like, 574 00:25:20,434 --> 00:25:22,714 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I haven't slept in days, I 575 00:25:22,714 --> 00:25:25,073 Speaker 2: haven't showered in weeks. I'm watching my best friend die. 576 00:25:25,074 --> 00:25:26,914 Speaker 2: I'm wearing toilet paper for underwear, and you want me 577 00:25:26,954 --> 00:25:30,194 Speaker 2: to decide what to do. And so you have those moments, 578 00:25:30,234 --> 00:25:32,634 Speaker 2: but then you're also funny moments where she's like reenacting 579 00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:35,434 Speaker 2: movie scenes in the hotel room, and also you have 580 00:25:35,554 --> 00:25:38,674 Speaker 2: all these like crazy sex scenes as she discovered what 581 00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,514 Speaker 2: she likes. And I also think, like death is so uncomfortable, 582 00:25:41,754 --> 00:25:43,714 Speaker 2: Like I can't stand TV shows and movies that death 583 00:25:43,754 --> 00:25:45,474 Speaker 2: I find a way too confronting. I would just love 584 00:25:45,514 --> 00:25:48,674 Speaker 2: to pretend that doesn't happen, but the show makes you 585 00:25:48,714 --> 00:25:50,994 Speaker 2: confront it in such an interesting way. Like there's a 586 00:25:51,034 --> 00:25:53,434 Speaker 2: scene where one are the nurses who's looking after it, 587 00:25:53,514 --> 00:25:55,994 Speaker 2: comes in and she gives this speech that's really stayed 588 00:25:56,034 --> 00:25:57,914 Speaker 2: with me, where she talks about the fact like your 589 00:25:57,914 --> 00:26:00,074 Speaker 2: body knows how to live, but your body knows how 590 00:26:00,114 --> 00:26:02,553 Speaker 2: to die. Isn't that amazing? Like your body, She's like, 591 00:26:02,554 --> 00:26:04,554 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry when she goes into palliative care, 592 00:26:04,674 --> 00:26:07,073 Speaker 2: she youd have to worry. Your body knows how to die. 593 00:26:07,234 --> 00:26:08,674 Speaker 2: It's going to do this, and then it's going to 594 00:26:08,754 --> 00:26:10,354 Speaker 2: do this, and it's going to do this, and then 595 00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:11,994 Speaker 2: you're going to go into a euphoria and you're going 596 00:26:12,034 --> 00:26:14,594 Speaker 2: to feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and 597 00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:17,634 Speaker 2: like you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but 598 00:26:17,674 --> 00:26:19,394 Speaker 2: I'm also just watching it as if you were being like, 599 00:26:19,434 --> 00:26:23,634 Speaker 2: holy hell, that's amazing, So like dying for sex so good, 600 00:26:23,674 --> 00:26:26,714 Speaker 2: Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's 601 00:26:26,794 --> 00:26:29,994 Speaker 2: so worth it. I think that's a really interesting point 602 00:26:30,034 --> 00:26:33,674 Speaker 2: about how we approach death in pop culture and television 603 00:26:33,754 --> 00:26:35,834 Speaker 2: just in our everyday lives as well, because like, yeah, 604 00:26:35,874 --> 00:26:38,754 Speaker 2: sure it's inevitable, but whenever people try to portray that 605 00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:41,793 Speaker 2: in television and film, it usually so often misses the 606 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,834 Speaker 2: mark where they go too hard with the hand and 607 00:26:43,874 --> 00:26:46,553 Speaker 2: the comedy, or they go a too sincere. And this 608 00:26:46,594 --> 00:26:49,074 Speaker 2: feels like it strikes a really nice balance between you 609 00:26:49,154 --> 00:26:51,513 Speaker 2: two exactly, and the fact that it's also based on 610 00:26:51,514 --> 00:26:53,514 Speaker 2: a true story, and like you should definitely like watch 611 00:26:53,554 --> 00:26:55,474 Speaker 2: the show and then listen to the podcast because they 612 00:26:55,474 --> 00:26:59,874 Speaker 2: really go together very well. Okay, I'm back on my 613 00:26:59,914 --> 00:27:02,513 Speaker 2: sport ber Okay, oh wow, that another sports show came 614 00:27:02,514 --> 00:27:03,434 Speaker 2: out this year. Laura. 615 00:27:03,474 --> 00:27:05,114 Speaker 4: It's very very rare that I get to come on 616 00:27:05,114 --> 00:27:07,914 Speaker 4: this podcast, so when I do, I will abuse that Powell. Okay, 617 00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:10,474 Speaker 4: you've seen this though, I'm sure that you have a 618 00:27:10,474 --> 00:27:11,834 Speaker 4: take on it. It's from NETFLIXX. 619 00:27:11,994 --> 00:27:15,194 Speaker 2: It's running point. I work in a family business, the 620 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:17,354 Speaker 2: greatest basketball franchise. 621 00:27:16,874 --> 00:27:19,514 Speaker 5: In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Waves, 622 00:27:20,794 --> 00:27:23,354 Speaker 5: and this is the story of the fucked up family 623 00:27:23,354 --> 00:27:23,794 Speaker 5: that runs. 624 00:27:26,114 --> 00:27:29,474 Speaker 1: Tila, I'm making you the president of the Waves. 625 00:27:29,994 --> 00:27:32,954 Speaker 2: When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me, 626 00:27:33,714 --> 00:27:35,194 Speaker 2: and I started to doubt myself. 627 00:27:35,274 --> 00:27:36,634 Speaker 1: I need you to stop because I don't care about 628 00:27:36,634 --> 00:27:40,354 Speaker 1: any of that shit. You were the president of the Waves. 629 00:27:40,514 --> 00:27:42,434 Speaker 1: Its shocking were on the half of all women. Don't 630 00:27:42,434 --> 00:27:44,554 Speaker 1: ever make a mistake. It looks bad for all of us. 631 00:27:46,034 --> 00:27:48,234 Speaker 1: We're a family, sys we got your back no matter 632 00:27:48,274 --> 00:27:48,874 Speaker 1: what people say. 633 00:27:49,114 --> 00:27:50,714 Speaker 5: What are they saying, just the fact that you're a 634 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,674 Speaker 5: nepple baby and you don't know what you're doing, but 635 00:27:52,754 --> 00:27:55,154 Speaker 5: you're old, so it's like you're kind of you're like 636 00:27:55,154 --> 00:27:55,914 Speaker 5: a nepple chrome. 637 00:27:56,034 --> 00:27:58,314 Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't go on red it unless you 638 00:27:58,314 --> 00:27:59,954 Speaker 1: want to kill yourself. 639 00:27:59,994 --> 00:28:01,914 Speaker 2: You are the smartest Lord, and I know, I know 640 00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:02,754 Speaker 2: that's not a high bar. 641 00:28:03,754 --> 00:28:07,874 Speaker 1: Now, we're a family brand. You Ness and Sandy don't represent. 642 00:28:07,594 --> 00:28:08,074 Speaker 3: For a value. 643 00:28:08,234 --> 00:28:09,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad 644 00:28:09,914 --> 00:28:14,514 Speaker 2: is sadamastein, but we are good people. When I die, sock, 645 00:28:14,674 --> 00:28:15,874 Speaker 2: I want to know what you're going to do to 646 00:28:15,914 --> 00:28:17,914 Speaker 2: stop the sock. I know the record doesn't show it, 647 00:28:17,954 --> 00:28:19,594 Speaker 2: but this is a winning last year and I have 648 00:28:19,634 --> 00:28:22,274 Speaker 2: a team to run. So if you'll excuse me, wait, 649 00:28:22,554 --> 00:28:26,234 Speaker 2: this is my office. You get a Yeah, I really 650 00:28:26,314 --> 00:28:29,474 Speaker 2: liked Wanting Point. I understand the criticism though. Okay, guys, 651 00:28:29,514 --> 00:28:29,954 Speaker 2: I get it. 652 00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:33,354 Speaker 4: Okay, So if you don't know Running Point Netflix comedy series. 653 00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:35,634 Speaker 4: It was created by Mindy Kaling, who we love. It 654 00:28:35,674 --> 00:28:39,634 Speaker 4: stars Kate Hudson as Isla Gordon, who unexpectedly like becomes 655 00:28:39,674 --> 00:28:42,314 Speaker 4: the president of the Los Angeles Waves. 656 00:28:41,954 --> 00:28:44,354 Speaker 2: Which is a basketball team. 657 00:28:44,114 --> 00:28:48,194 Speaker 4: I'm in my basketball villain error, but basically she becomes 658 00:28:48,234 --> 00:28:50,514 Speaker 4: the president. She's got a couple of brothers who also 659 00:28:50,514 --> 00:28:52,394 Speaker 4: work at the family company, and they're all kind of 660 00:28:52,394 --> 00:28:55,114 Speaker 4: annoyed that she's the president. She was the party girl, 661 00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:57,434 Speaker 4: she was the black sheep, a little bit of the 662 00:28:57,474 --> 00:29:00,594 Speaker 4: family and now she's sort of trumped them all into 663 00:29:00,634 --> 00:29:03,994 Speaker 4: this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her. 664 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:05,794 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to 665 00:29:05,834 --> 00:29:08,474 Speaker 2: prove them all wrong. The best friend slash assistant is 666 00:29:08,474 --> 00:29:10,394 Speaker 2: played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked 667 00:29:10,434 --> 00:29:11,954 Speaker 2: about this, but like, how nice is it to see 668 00:29:11,954 --> 00:29:14,954 Speaker 2: Brenda's song that greens That is the best part of 669 00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:16,594 Speaker 2: that show for being Like, there's other bits I liked, 670 00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:18,954 Speaker 2: but it is the best role that's been written for Brenda, 671 00:29:20,074 --> 00:29:22,314 Speaker 2: and she just nails And I hope she gets all 672 00:29:22,354 --> 00:29:25,234 Speaker 2: the award nominations for that role in the comedy genre. Yeah, 673 00:29:25,234 --> 00:29:28,554 Speaker 2: I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Coulkin. I'm pushing 674 00:29:28,594 --> 00:29:31,034 Speaker 2: for her and Macaulay Culkin, but like I would also 675 00:29:31,074 --> 00:29:33,034 Speaker 2: be okay if it was Kieran Culkin to like play 676 00:29:33,074 --> 00:29:35,234 Speaker 2: a couple in The White Lotus season four. That needs 677 00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:37,114 Speaker 2: to happen. Yeah, she needs to be on the White Lotus. 678 00:29:38,394 --> 00:29:40,994 Speaker 4: I like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great, 679 00:29:41,074 --> 00:29:42,514 Speaker 4: Kate Hudson's good. 680 00:29:42,794 --> 00:29:44,114 Speaker 2: But I also love that there's like. 681 00:29:44,114 --> 00:29:47,474 Speaker 4: A bunch of sort of subplots going on while the 682 00:29:47,514 --> 00:29:50,114 Speaker 4: main thing is like her trying to keep the company 683 00:29:50,154 --> 00:29:53,434 Speaker 4: the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while 684 00:29:53,434 --> 00:29:55,354 Speaker 4: she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a 685 00:29:55,434 --> 00:29:58,834 Speaker 4: secret extra brother nobody knows about he and I love 686 00:29:58,874 --> 00:30:01,834 Speaker 4: that the brothers that we do know about are all very. 687 00:30:01,514 --> 00:30:05,074 Speaker 2: Flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What did you think, because, 688 00:30:05,154 --> 00:30:06,834 Speaker 2: like you said, there was a lot of criticism when 689 00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:08,514 Speaker 2: this came it was I think there was just so 690 00:30:08,634 --> 00:30:11,034 Speaker 2: much hype for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just 691 00:30:11,114 --> 00:30:14,234 Speaker 2: makes shows that people feel so strongly about, from the 692 00:30:14,274 --> 00:30:16,954 Speaker 2: MINDI Project and all these other TV projects she's done. 693 00:30:17,114 --> 00:30:19,594 Speaker 2: It was the first time Kate Hudson had been in 694 00:30:19,634 --> 00:30:22,154 Speaker 2: a TV show and like played a role like this, 695 00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:25,234 Speaker 2: and so the height from it was huge. Netflix really 696 00:30:25,234 --> 00:30:26,874 Speaker 2: put it up as their big comedy of the year, 697 00:30:27,354 --> 00:30:29,034 Speaker 2: and I really loved it. But I feel like it 698 00:30:29,034 --> 00:30:31,554 Speaker 2: did take a few episodes to find its feet, and 699 00:30:31,594 --> 00:30:33,754 Speaker 2: I think it's because the first episode is just like, 700 00:30:34,034 --> 00:30:38,514 Speaker 2: it's like, plot, plot, plot, plot much almost Yeah, it 701 00:30:38,834 --> 00:30:41,034 Speaker 2: kind of felt like lazy storytelling, but I almost think 702 00:30:41,074 --> 00:30:43,154 Speaker 2: they just wanted to pull you into the world really quickly. 703 00:30:43,314 --> 00:30:44,714 Speaker 2: But a lot of people, I know, I just watched the 704 00:30:44,714 --> 00:30:46,794 Speaker 2: first episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at 705 00:30:46,794 --> 00:30:49,474 Speaker 2: people about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she 706 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:51,274 Speaker 2: does this, and this is her brother and he does this, 707 00:30:51,354 --> 00:30:53,154 Speaker 2: and this is what their dad. I hate. 708 00:30:53,314 --> 00:30:55,994 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know people probably either don't have an opinion 709 00:30:55,994 --> 00:30:57,194 Speaker 4: of this will feel very strongly. 710 00:30:57,354 --> 00:30:57,874 Speaker 2: Yeah. 711 00:30:57,954 --> 00:31:00,914 Speaker 4: I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then 712 00:31:00,954 --> 00:31:02,274 Speaker 4: like scribble on the screen. 713 00:31:02,234 --> 00:31:04,434 Speaker 2: And that's what they do through the fall. They dost episode. 714 00:31:04,554 --> 00:31:06,274 Speaker 2: They do that so much because there's like so much 715 00:31:06,314 --> 00:31:06,994 Speaker 2: to establish it. 716 00:31:07,834 --> 00:31:09,674 Speaker 4: But I agree, like you have to persevere through the 717 00:31:09,674 --> 00:31:12,074 Speaker 4: first episode and then it ends and it's really like 718 00:31:12,234 --> 00:31:15,114 Speaker 4: it's not like a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist. 719 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,594 Speaker 2: It is, and I thought like especially it's one on 720 00:31:16,674 --> 00:31:18,274 Speaker 2: like it had a lot of heart as well as 721 00:31:18,314 --> 00:31:21,034 Speaker 2: being like quite funny. And Kate Hudson just knows how 722 00:31:21,114 --> 00:31:22,954 Speaker 2: to carry something that she can carry a movie, she 723 00:31:22,954 --> 00:31:25,474 Speaker 2: can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming 724 00:31:25,554 --> 00:31:27,994 Speaker 2: back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a 725 00:31:28,034 --> 00:31:30,554 Speaker 2: character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the 726 00:31:30,554 --> 00:31:32,434 Speaker 2: first time she gets to revisit a character, and I 727 00:31:32,474 --> 00:31:35,754 Speaker 2: find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is perfect always 728 00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:37,714 Speaker 2: I'm such a fair girl. But I also find that 729 00:31:37,874 --> 00:31:40,834 Speaker 2: as shows go along, she only gets better. So I 730 00:31:40,834 --> 00:31:43,354 Speaker 2: for like season two, it's gonna be where it's up. Yeah, 731 00:31:43,394 --> 00:31:46,954 Speaker 2: it'll hit it strid, I hope. Okay, the other TV show. 732 00:31:46,954 --> 00:31:48,354 Speaker 2: And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like 733 00:31:48,394 --> 00:31:50,274 Speaker 2: the longer it goes on, more people have mean too, 734 00:31:50,554 --> 00:31:53,194 Speaker 2: which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you've ever 735 00:31:53,234 --> 00:31:55,514 Speaker 2: heard so no, but I've heard so much about that. 736 00:31:55,554 --> 00:31:58,394 Speaker 2: I think you'd really like I love Seth Rogen. Yes, well, 737 00:31:58,394 --> 00:32:00,274 Speaker 2: then you're gonna love this because he stars in it 738 00:32:00,314 --> 00:32:03,394 Speaker 2: and he created he was involved in that big Sony 739 00:32:03,554 --> 00:32:06,394 Speaker 2: email leak many many years ago, which if you're not 740 00:32:06,434 --> 00:32:09,354 Speaker 2: a cross guy, don't worry. We did a whole episode 741 00:32:09,354 --> 00:32:14,034 Speaker 2: on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well, 742 00:32:14,074 --> 00:32:16,114 Speaker 2: there's so many, but this is so the fact that 743 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:19,274 Speaker 2: all of the emails sent by a list stars and 744 00:32:19,354 --> 00:32:22,794 Speaker 2: studio heads were all made public and you saw what 745 00:32:23,034 --> 00:32:27,114 Speaker 2: huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying, 746 00:32:27,154 --> 00:32:29,954 Speaker 2: but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and 747 00:32:29,994 --> 00:32:31,034 Speaker 2: Jolly behind her back. 748 00:32:31,114 --> 00:32:33,314 Speaker 4: Like I know, it was wrapped up in terrorism that's 749 00:32:33,394 --> 00:32:37,434 Speaker 4: really bad. But the juicy Hollywood gossip that was leaked 750 00:32:37,514 --> 00:32:42,554 Speaker 4: every day for a month paralleled so Seth Brogan because 751 00:32:42,674 --> 00:32:44,874 Speaker 4: his movie at the time was involved in the Studio 752 00:32:44,954 --> 00:32:46,834 Speaker 4: League and so he kind of looked at all of 753 00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:48,634 Speaker 4: that and use that to make the studio. So the 754 00:32:48,674 --> 00:32:52,194 Speaker 4: Studio is kind of like a satirical comedy, which is 755 00:32:52,234 --> 00:32:55,074 Speaker 4: about a Seth Rogan who gets made the head of 756 00:32:55,074 --> 00:32:58,234 Speaker 4: this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's has to turn 757 00:32:58,274 --> 00:33:01,554 Speaker 4: it around. And the cast is incredible. It's Catherine O'Hara, 758 00:33:01,714 --> 00:33:05,634 Speaker 4: like Baron Holtz, Chase, Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn, They're all incredible, 759 00:33:05,674 --> 00:33:07,594 Speaker 4: and it's got all these like wild story is about 760 00:33:07,634 --> 00:33:11,114 Speaker 4: like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio. But what's 761 00:33:11,154 --> 00:33:13,794 Speaker 4: really great is they have all these big stars come 762 00:33:13,834 --> 00:33:17,634 Speaker 4: in and play caricatures of themselves. 763 00:33:17,954 --> 00:33:19,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, it works so well. It's kind of like he's 764 00:33:19,674 --> 00:33:21,354 Speaker 2: on a few movies where he has people play themselves. 765 00:33:21,354 --> 00:33:23,834 Speaker 2: It's always works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes 766 00:33:23,874 --> 00:33:25,954 Speaker 2: in and plays like a caricature of myself and she's 767 00:33:25,994 --> 00:33:28,474 Speaker 2: so good. Zach Efron does it, He's really fine. I 768 00:33:28,474 --> 00:33:31,034 Speaker 2: love this. Jean Smart does it. Charlie's Throne. I think 769 00:33:31,074 --> 00:33:34,354 Speaker 2: my favorite one though, was Martin's called Saz playing himself 770 00:33:34,434 --> 00:33:36,834 Speaker 2: away because he just like what would get it? I know, 771 00:33:37,034 --> 00:33:39,514 Speaker 2: like as if he would do that, and he's so good. 772 00:33:39,634 --> 00:33:42,514 Speaker 2: Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes 773 00:33:42,514 --> 00:33:45,154 Speaker 2: in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself 774 00:33:45,194 --> 00:33:47,234 Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like, 775 00:33:47,354 --> 00:33:49,114 Speaker 2: but like that is just such a wild ride. So 776 00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:51,754 Speaker 2: it's already been renewed for a second season, and you 777 00:33:51,794 --> 00:33:53,754 Speaker 2: don't have to be super interested in like the inner 778 00:33:53,794 --> 00:33:56,354 Speaker 2: workings of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch 779 00:33:56,394 --> 00:33:57,994 Speaker 2: it as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you 780 00:33:58,034 --> 00:34:00,914 Speaker 2: don't know who half these people are who are playing themselves, 781 00:34:01,034 --> 00:34:03,714 Speaker 2: and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters. 782 00:34:03,754 --> 00:34:06,194 Speaker 2: So love it. Yeah, so good. The other one I 783 00:34:06,194 --> 00:34:07,994 Speaker 2: want to mention, just to finish us off, is a 784 00:34:07,994 --> 00:34:10,593 Speaker 2: show that came out this year called The Last Anniversary 785 00:34:10,594 --> 00:34:13,194 Speaker 2: that came out on Binge. So it's based on a 786 00:34:13,314 --> 00:34:16,354 Speaker 2: Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so many reasons to love it. 787 00:34:16,394 --> 00:34:18,393 Speaker 2: I think, like usually when a TV show comes out 788 00:34:18,434 --> 00:34:20,553 Speaker 2: that's based on a book, I've always read the book. First, 789 00:34:20,754 --> 00:34:22,993 Speaker 2: I'm such a big reader, but this is the one 790 00:34:23,234 --> 00:34:25,314 Speaker 2: Leanne Moriarty book I hadn't read, so I got to 791 00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:29,154 Speaker 2: experience the unfolding of this chastory for the first time. 792 00:34:29,354 --> 00:34:31,754 Speaker 2: So Teresa Palmer is the lead, and she plays this 793 00:34:31,794 --> 00:34:34,234 Speaker 2: woman called Sophie. And this is where things got a 794 00:34:34,234 --> 00:34:36,514 Speaker 2: bit tense when I was at the premiere watching it, 795 00:34:36,554 --> 00:34:39,994 Speaker 2: because watching it in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is 796 00:34:40,394 --> 00:34:42,954 Speaker 2: a woman living in Sydney who writes for a women's 797 00:34:42,994 --> 00:34:46,274 Speaker 2: media publication. She's in her late thirties. She's going on 798 00:34:46,314 --> 00:34:49,234 Speaker 2: a series of bad dates and when she's ever like 799 00:34:49,434 --> 00:34:53,194 Speaker 2: stressed out about life, love or anything, she gets this incredible, 800 00:34:53,234 --> 00:34:57,114 Speaker 2: like intense flush through her neck and cheeks. How you 801 00:34:57,154 --> 00:35:00,194 Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm like I was watching it and I 802 00:35:00,274 --> 00:35:03,834 Speaker 2: literally like, did you know this when you interviewed Teresa Palmer? Yeah, 803 00:35:03,834 --> 00:35:06,714 Speaker 2: because okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the premiere and 804 00:35:06,754 --> 00:35:09,594 Speaker 2: I so in case you don't know me, that's me, Like, 805 00:35:09,634 --> 00:35:13,913 Speaker 2: that's me to a tea, including the intense flush, the 806 00:35:13,994 --> 00:35:16,114 Speaker 2: same age and even when she was like she's talking 807 00:35:16,154 --> 00:35:17,834 Speaker 2: to her ed about stories and she was like, oh yeah, 808 00:35:17,874 --> 00:35:19,393 Speaker 2: just do this and do that and like just the 809 00:35:19,434 --> 00:35:21,433 Speaker 2: way she talks about working in the women's media. I'm like, 810 00:35:21,714 --> 00:35:24,393 Speaker 2: this is the bad dates everything, Like it's just so 811 00:35:24,474 --> 00:35:27,114 Speaker 2: I feel like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah, 812 00:35:28,034 --> 00:35:29,554 Speaker 2: so that's the only part that Sophie and I are 813 00:35:29,554 --> 00:35:32,114 Speaker 2: the same person. Because after that, this man that she 814 00:35:32,194 --> 00:35:34,474 Speaker 2: had dated years and years and years ago, who's a 815 00:35:34,474 --> 00:35:37,754 Speaker 2: bit of a jerk, lets her know that his grandmother 816 00:35:37,954 --> 00:35:41,074 Speaker 2: has passed away and left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of 817 00:35:41,114 --> 00:35:44,354 Speaker 2: many years, her house on this tiny little island off 818 00:35:44,354 --> 00:35:47,314 Speaker 2: the coast of New South Wales called Scriplgum Island and 819 00:35:47,514 --> 00:35:50,034 Speaker 2: all the family members live there and there's a mystery 820 00:35:50,074 --> 00:35:51,954 Speaker 2: attached to the island. So this is where it's like 821 00:35:51,994 --> 00:35:55,194 Speaker 2: a love story of Sophie, like moving to the island, 822 00:35:55,394 --> 00:35:57,754 Speaker 2: living in this house and trying to discover why it 823 00:35:57,794 --> 00:35:59,834 Speaker 2: was left to her. And one of the reasons she 824 00:35:59,874 --> 00:36:01,674 Speaker 2: decides to go is at the end of the letter 825 00:36:01,714 --> 00:36:03,994 Speaker 2: it says, I think you'll find love here. There's a 826 00:36:03,994 --> 00:36:06,074 Speaker 2: man that you should meet. So she goes there and 827 00:36:06,114 --> 00:36:08,154 Speaker 2: she meets all these different and every time she meets 828 00:36:08,154 --> 00:36:10,794 Speaker 2: a man, including a man who she used to date 829 00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:13,634 Speaker 2: who was married to her ex boyfriend's cousin. It's the 830 00:36:13,674 --> 00:36:16,274 Speaker 2: whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on the island. Yeah, 831 00:36:16,314 --> 00:36:18,274 Speaker 2: So as much as it's about Sophie, like meeting all 832 00:36:18,274 --> 00:36:20,514 Speaker 2: these different men, some of them are great, some of 833 00:36:20,514 --> 00:36:22,874 Speaker 2: them that shares wild sex with, some of them are awful. 834 00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:27,433 Speaker 2: It's like also this mystery because the island Scribblely Gum 835 00:36:27,514 --> 00:36:30,314 Speaker 2: is known for this mystery where a couple moved to 836 00:36:30,354 --> 00:36:32,674 Speaker 2: the island and then they disappeared and a baby was 837 00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:35,154 Speaker 2: left and the baby is like a now and a 838 00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:38,074 Speaker 2: grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie, 839 00:36:38,074 --> 00:36:40,913 Speaker 2: who's a journalist, goes back and tries to solve the 840 00:36:40,954 --> 00:36:44,754 Speaker 2: Mystery's yeah, I just really loved it. I found out 841 00:36:44,754 --> 00:36:46,034 Speaker 2: such as so I went to the premiere and I 842 00:36:46,034 --> 00:36:48,234 Speaker 2: watched it and I interviewed treesa Palmer and that was amazing. 843 00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:49,834 Speaker 2: But then every week, and I've got a lot of 844 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:51,594 Speaker 2: TV to watch, so I don't watch stuff unless I 845 00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:53,514 Speaker 2: have to. But then every week I turned on Binge 846 00:36:53,514 --> 00:36:55,794 Speaker 2: to watch the next episode because I loved the weekly drop, 847 00:36:56,034 --> 00:36:57,714 Speaker 2: and I just found like a personal It's got all 848 00:36:57,754 --> 00:37:00,674 Speaker 2: these incredible like female characters like Daniel McDonald's in it 849 00:37:00,714 --> 00:37:03,114 Speaker 2: as well. But it's really about all these women in 850 00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:06,754 Speaker 2: this unconventional family living on this island, solving the mystery, 851 00:37:07,514 --> 00:37:09,274 Speaker 2: the love story. But I also just love when they're 852 00:37:09,274 --> 00:37:11,114 Speaker 2: just like cooking in the kitchen and making cakes and 853 00:37:11,154 --> 00:37:13,194 Speaker 2: drinking wine. I know, I just really loved it, Like 854 00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:14,834 Speaker 2: I know keeps people have watched it and loved it, 855 00:37:14,874 --> 00:37:17,474 Speaker 2: but I just feel like more people need to watch it. 856 00:37:17,514 --> 00:37:19,433 Speaker 2: I'm sold. Yeah, I think you would really love it. 857 00:37:19,434 --> 00:37:21,754 Speaker 2: Don't if you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay, 858 00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:24,514 Speaker 2: when you find out the mystery of the baby and 859 00:37:24,554 --> 00:37:26,794 Speaker 2: how she was left there and how it's like intertwined 860 00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:28,554 Speaker 2: with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have. 861 00:37:28,554 --> 00:37:30,674 Speaker 4: So many like theories running through my head, having not 862 00:37:30,714 --> 00:37:33,314 Speaker 4: watched or know any of the characters names Keayla, bring 863 00:37:33,394 --> 00:37:35,033 Speaker 4: us home one more very quick. 864 00:37:35,194 --> 00:37:37,274 Speaker 2: Okay, we've done it recently, but in case anyone hasn't 865 00:37:37,274 --> 00:37:40,274 Speaker 2: watched it adults on Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not 866 00:37:40,554 --> 00:37:43,754 Speaker 2: saying this, guys, one of the funniest shows I have 867 00:37:43,874 --> 00:37:46,274 Speaker 2: ever seen, because it's so rare that I would sit 868 00:37:46,314 --> 00:37:48,794 Speaker 2: in my apartment alone and watch a TV show and 869 00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:51,834 Speaker 2: be hysterically laughing out loud. And when Emily Vernon and 870 00:37:51,874 --> 00:37:53,953 Speaker 2: I did this on Weekend Watch. We don't look at 871 00:37:53,954 --> 00:37:56,074 Speaker 2: any other reviews first, so we watch a show, we 872 00:37:56,114 --> 00:37:59,234 Speaker 2: give out honest review and usually we're like fairly with 873 00:37:59,314 --> 00:38:02,593 Speaker 2: other people. This was like quite badly reviewed, and really 874 00:38:02,634 --> 00:38:04,354 Speaker 2: I would not normally say this about my colleagues, but 875 00:38:04,394 --> 00:38:06,913 Speaker 2: they're wrong. I just don't think they were watching it. 876 00:38:06,954 --> 00:38:09,434 Speaker 2: So so it's about a group of four twenty somethings 877 00:38:09,474 --> 00:38:11,513 Speaker 2: who are living in New York, like you know, out 878 00:38:11,554 --> 00:38:13,834 Speaker 2: in the world for the first time, in a sharehouse 879 00:38:13,874 --> 00:38:16,794 Speaker 2: together and it just tracks their life. There's eight episodes. 880 00:38:17,194 --> 00:38:19,194 Speaker 2: They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes. 881 00:38:19,594 --> 00:38:22,114 Speaker 2: That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie 882 00:38:22,114 --> 00:38:24,674 Speaker 2: Cox is in it. He's so funny. Julia Fox does 883 00:38:24,914 --> 00:38:28,474 Speaker 2: is an episode playing herself. Fantastic, so good. There's so 884 00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:30,994 Speaker 2: many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like 885 00:38:31,274 --> 00:38:34,154 Speaker 2: wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on 886 00:38:34,194 --> 00:38:35,994 Speaker 2: a train because a man's doing it. She's trying to 887 00:38:35,994 --> 00:38:38,994 Speaker 2: stand up for women's rights and like you know and 888 00:38:39,114 --> 00:38:41,794 Speaker 2: diggerate quality and stuff. But it is just really funny. 889 00:38:41,834 --> 00:38:45,034 Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless 890 00:38:45,034 --> 00:38:49,913 Speaker 2: it's Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults is 891 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:52,514 Speaker 2: on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or are 892 00:38:52,674 --> 00:38:55,794 Speaker 2: about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and 893 00:38:55,874 --> 00:38:58,393 Speaker 2: funny and I just really loved it. What a way 894 00:38:58,434 --> 00:39:01,034 Speaker 2: to end public pleasure on a train. Yeah, It's what 895 00:39:01,074 --> 00:39:04,074 Speaker 2: all TV shows should have, obviously, Laura Rodnett, thank you 896 00:39:04,114 --> 00:39:05,834 Speaker 2: for having me back. Thank you for coming on and 897 00:39:05,874 --> 00:39:10,433 Speaker 2: talking about basketball. I'm sure you did well. Thank you 898 00:39:10,474 --> 00:39:13,034 Speaker 2: so much to Taylor for joining us, and thank you 899 00:39:13,074 --> 00:39:15,393 Speaker 2: all for listening to the Spill. And there are so 900 00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:17,873 Speaker 2: many other great summer listeners via the link in our 901 00:39:17,914 --> 00:39:21,474 Speaker 2: show notes, with some incredible episodes covering everything from true 902 00:39:21,474 --> 00:39:24,953 Speaker 2: crime to beauty to powerful interviews. And we have an 903 00:39:24,994 --> 00:39:29,474 Speaker 2: absolutely hilarious new Spill episode dropping on Friday, where Emily 904 00:39:29,474 --> 00:39:32,433 Speaker 2: and I debate which of our favorite romcom couples would 905 00:39:32,474 --> 00:39:35,314 Speaker 2: have broken up in real life, and of course we 906 00:39:35,434 --> 00:39:38,674 Speaker 2: very much disagree. We're back with daily shows from Monday. 907 00:39:38,794 --> 00:39:51,314 Speaker 2: Have a wonderful New Year's bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 908 00:39:51,354 --> 00:39:54,234 Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast 909 00:39:54,274 --> 00:39:57,754 Speaker 2: on the Gatigor people of the Eorination. We pay our 910 00:39:57,794 --> 00:40:00,754 Speaker 2: respects to their elders past and present, and extend that 911 00:40:00,794 --> 00:40:03,714 Speaker 2: respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.