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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mum and mea podcast from MoMA Mia.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture figs. I'm

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Speaker 1: Laura Broadney and I'm a man. And before we jump

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Speaker 1: into this episode, let's do a calming, deep breath. This

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Speaker 1: is for us, not you, guys. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 1: are fine. Oh right's the opposite of and that's what

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Speaker 1: that was. Guys. The reason we're taking a calming breath

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Speaker 1: is that I don't know about you, but I have

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Speaker 1: never been so intensely excited, emotional, angry.

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Speaker 2: Hounding headache too.

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Speaker 1: I think we get ourselves a headache from all of

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Speaker 1: the Oscars excitement, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, And now I feel in this weird space. So

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just about to cry. So we

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Speaker 2: have a second event.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're not matching the editor of our audience,

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Speaker 1: so we just need to like kind of calm We'll

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Speaker 1: build here. So the reason we're acting so so crazy

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Speaker 1: is because this is our Oscars special. We did our

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Speaker 1: red carpet episode yesterday. Well like that the show notes

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Speaker 1: if you missed it, today is all about the actual

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Speaker 1: Oscars and it's a big deal because the build up

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Speaker 1: for this has been months and months and months.

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Speaker 2: So it feels like this build up for this Oscars

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Speaker 2: has been five years.

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Speaker 1: Personally taken on a lot.

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Speaker 2: This it's taken on a lot. I've been personally campaigning, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for the Oscars.

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Speaker 1: It's hard when you're in the Oscars, like we worked

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Speaker 1: the Oscars this year, like we were campaigning.

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Speaker 2: He literally worked the Oscars. This year also one of

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Speaker 2: the most highly competitive Oscars we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely everyone had a horse in the race this year.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was across all the nominees. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of very contentious winds, and it was it just felt

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Speaker 1: very high stakes across the board in a way it

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Speaker 1: hasn't felt for years. Cinema is back. Cinema is back.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first. So we're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: the highs and lows and weird moments and tear inducing

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Speaker 1: moments and anger inducing moments from this year's Academy Awards.

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Speaker 1: So pretty much it came down to a two kind

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Speaker 1: of movie race between one batt Laughed another and Sinners,

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Speaker 1: And of course Sinners came in tonight as the most

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Speaker 1: nominated movie ever, with sixteen nominations across the board. One

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Speaker 1: battle laughed, another did inch forward. But to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought Sinners did much better than I personally predicted.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Oscar was going to pull that trick

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Speaker 1: out completely. So that didn't happen. One bell after another,

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Speaker 1: one six oscars, including I mean, we'll dive into these deeper,

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Speaker 1: but Best Pitcher, Best Director, Best Supporting Actor, Adapted Screenplay, editing,

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Speaker 1: and including the first ever Oscar for casting, which was

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Speaker 1: something everyone had been wanting for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: So this was a very historic win, but Sinners came

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Speaker 1: not far behind it one original Screenplay score, Best Actor,

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Speaker 1: which we will get to and also don't cry yet

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Speaker 1: and lely there's lots of tears still to come. And

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Speaker 1: also a huge history making moment for Sinners, which is

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Speaker 1: at Autumn durand Akapa became the first ever female winner

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm huge moment.

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Speaker 2: Huge moment, so well deserved absolute cinematography in Sinners. After

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Speaker 2: she won, I saw a carousel of just certain shots

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she looked incredible, And that is it's such an

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the opening scenes and monologue. We

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, he didn't make the whole Awards

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Speaker 1: all the weird hosting little gags that half the time

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Speaker 2: Oh my go Adrian Brodie.

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Speaker 2: I was just wonder like thinking, if you're in that

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Speaker 1: You goin off Adrian Brady, some guy.

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Speaker 2: Who no one's ever heard it's just making gigs. I'd

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Speaker 2: just be like, please, can we just get to it.

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Speaker 1: I know because he made a joke about Adrian Brodie

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Speaker 1: He made a joke about because his speech was very

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Speaker 1: Do this if you ever like host SNL or something

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because the opening monologue is the one

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Speaker 1: There was also a bit of a call out from

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Speaker 1: Conan at the top of the show that it was

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Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien, I feel like you either love him or

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Speaker 2: And his friends are there.

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Speaker 2: His comedy, like very slapstick in your face skit like comedy.

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Speaker 1: Well exactly. I mean the Oscars is a bit different

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Speaker 1: you're Anne Hathaway and James Franco time, everyone's like that down. No,

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Speaker 1: Every Oscar ceremony. She's like, I do only I could

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Speaker 1: there was more to say by the opening, and straight

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Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actress. This was a very interesting one because

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Speaker 1: It could have gone either way. There are a few

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Speaker 1: went to Amy Madigan for Weapons, which I was surprised about.

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Speaker 1: But he was so funny. It's happened to all of us.

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Speaker 2: He was amazing in Sinners, and he was also left

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Speaker 1: Maya Rudolph. It's very cool.

434
00:18:49,554 --> 00:18:51,714
Speaker 2: They seem like they're in two different worlds in my head.

435
00:18:51,794 --> 00:18:55,114
Speaker 1: Oh, they've been married for like decades. So apparently the

436
00:18:55,154 --> 00:18:57,313
Speaker 1: story is that he turned on SNL one Saturday Night

437
00:18:57,394 --> 00:18:59,394
Speaker 1: Live one night and saw her. I was like, I'm

438
00:18:59,394 --> 00:19:02,514
Speaker 1: gonna marry that woman, and then he did, and that's manifestation.

439
00:19:03,554 --> 00:19:06,954
Speaker 1: That's crazy and she was crazy up when he like

440
00:19:07,194 --> 00:19:10,154
Speaker 1: one best director and it was very cute. She's she's

441
00:19:10,194 --> 00:19:11,634
Speaker 1: been doing the whole award circle with him.

442
00:19:11,674 --> 00:19:13,474
Speaker 2: She's always a little bit better about his wins. Now,

443
00:19:13,634 --> 00:19:17,594
Speaker 2: Oh she's pretty cool. Yeah yeah, because by extension she

444
00:19:17,594 --> 00:19:18,434
Speaker 2: she deserves that.

445
00:19:18,594 --> 00:19:22,074
Speaker 1: Yeah. So my root off on an oscar. So they

446
00:19:22,114 --> 00:19:24,954
Speaker 1: got up on stage to present and they did to

447
00:19:24,954 --> 00:19:28,514
Speaker 1: present Best Original Score and Best Sound, and they did

448
00:19:28,514 --> 00:19:30,833
Speaker 1: that little bit where they pretended that messages have been

449
00:19:30,874 --> 00:19:32,634
Speaker 1: sent from the Crown. They will had to open these

450
00:19:32,674 --> 00:19:36,194
Speaker 1: paper messages on stage and read out these little bits,

451
00:19:36,514 --> 00:19:38,794
Speaker 1: and a lot of them were allegedly from Stolen's Garden.

452
00:19:39,514 --> 00:19:41,313
Speaker 2: And I loved when they were doing this bit, like

453
00:19:41,394 --> 00:19:44,234
Speaker 2: everyone who they mentioned in the audience just got around

454
00:19:44,274 --> 00:19:45,674
Speaker 2: it and they were all just like part of it.

455
00:19:45,714 --> 00:19:48,434
Speaker 1: But I think they were pre warned. I think they were.

456
00:19:48,474 --> 00:19:49,794
Speaker 2: I think they woul't feel less happy.

457
00:19:49,874 --> 00:19:50,594
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so sorry.

458
00:19:50,674 --> 00:19:52,714
Speaker 2: I don't know if she said that, didn't say that.

459
00:19:52,794 --> 00:19:54,954
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, will you close your insince sex? But

460
00:19:54,954 --> 00:19:59,154
Speaker 1: I'll just tell the audience listeners. You can always tell

461
00:19:59,194 --> 00:20:00,834
Speaker 1: if someone in the oscars is prepped to do like

462
00:20:00,914 --> 00:20:03,394
Speaker 1: their bit, because one they have to have a camera

463
00:20:03,474 --> 00:20:04,994
Speaker 1: set up on them before.

464
00:20:05,154 --> 00:20:06,634
Speaker 2: I forget some of them cameras exist.

465
00:20:06,714 --> 00:20:08,394
Speaker 1: So that's a I'm right there, and a camera set

466
00:20:08,434 --> 00:20:10,513
Speaker 1: up on them prehand, but often like if they flashed

467
00:20:10,554 --> 00:20:12,674
Speaker 1: to someone, the audience's surprise, like it's that moment of

468
00:20:12,674 --> 00:20:15,114
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh yeah kind of thing. But each

469
00:20:15,154 --> 00:20:17,154
Speaker 1: one of them had their response ready to go, So

470
00:20:17,194 --> 00:20:20,234
Speaker 1: like Stellen kind of did the raised eyebrow like headshake.

471
00:20:20,634 --> 00:20:22,434
Speaker 1: El Fanning because there was one allegedly from her, but

472
00:20:22,474 --> 00:20:24,634
Speaker 1: it was actually from Stellin. She kind of did like

473
00:20:24,674 --> 00:20:26,434
Speaker 1: the face signal like they were all ready to go

474
00:20:26,474 --> 00:20:28,594
Speaker 1: with their beds. Leonardo DiCaprio, that's such of the funniest

475
00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:29,034
Speaker 1: he's ever been.

476
00:20:29,154 --> 00:20:31,794
Speaker 2: Can we talk about LEONARDA He absolutely lets do that.

477
00:20:32,434 --> 00:20:34,754
Speaker 2: Why is he hot? What do you mean? Like he's

478
00:20:34,794 --> 00:20:37,553
Speaker 2: just really hot at the Oscars? Just now today?

479
00:20:37,714 --> 00:20:40,754
Speaker 1: You know what, He's only hot at the Oscars. I

480
00:20:40,794 --> 00:20:43,034
Speaker 1: mean obviously he was hot back in the day. Yeah,

481
00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:43,794
Speaker 1: but he ran it back.

482
00:20:43,834 --> 00:20:46,554
Speaker 2: But he wasn't hot at the Saga Woods. He wasn't

483
00:20:46,554 --> 00:20:49,513
Speaker 2: hot at the Golden Globes. It was just hot at

484
00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:50,394
Speaker 2: the Oscar.

485
00:20:50,114 --> 00:20:52,874
Speaker 1: Hot every year at the Oscars. Why what's going on

486
00:20:52,914 --> 00:20:55,074
Speaker 1: with her? Is that just his natural habitat That's where

487
00:20:55,114 --> 00:20:58,114
Speaker 1: he comes alive, glowing And.

488
00:20:58,074 --> 00:21:01,874
Speaker 2: He looked like so like Golden and toned. Then like

489
00:21:01,914 --> 00:21:04,114
Speaker 2: he had like this this mustache going on.

490
00:21:04,314 --> 00:21:05,314
Speaker 1: He went to a different talent.

491
00:21:06,114 --> 00:21:08,394
Speaker 2: I think he just looked amazing.

492
00:21:08,714 --> 00:21:10,874
Speaker 1: I think maybe that is just his natural environment. It's

493
00:21:10,874 --> 00:21:12,714
Speaker 1: like he was even though his mum is always there

494
00:21:12,714 --> 00:21:14,634
Speaker 1: with him, Well he's this. Actually he had his girlfriend

495
00:21:14,714 --> 00:21:18,234
Speaker 1: Victoria sitting next to him the whole time. Yeah, yeah,

496
00:21:18,274 --> 00:21:20,154
Speaker 1: she was the woman sitting on his right.

497
00:21:20,434 --> 00:21:20,994
Speaker 2: How old is she?

498
00:21:21,154 --> 00:21:24,073
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's like twenty seven. Now, crazy because he's

499
00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:25,354
Speaker 1: like fifty two. When he's like, oh, let it.

500
00:21:25,354 --> 00:21:28,354
Speaker 2: Go, she's twenty seven.

501
00:21:28,514 --> 00:21:30,954
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't show who zach her exact age, but

502
00:21:30,994 --> 00:21:34,634
Speaker 1: she's past twenty five. Oh when she can when she

503
00:21:34,674 --> 00:21:36,714
Speaker 1: turned twenty. This woman is so much younger than I was,

504
00:21:37,074 --> 00:21:39,554
Speaker 1: so crazy, And I look at Lena cap like you

505
00:21:39,594 --> 00:21:42,793
Speaker 1: could be my dad. Not really, but that's the energy

506
00:21:42,794 --> 00:21:45,874
Speaker 1: he gives. But yeah, it's so funny because like when

507
00:21:45,874 --> 00:21:48,313
Speaker 1: you just see him schlobbing around on his yacht or

508
00:21:48,354 --> 00:21:52,394
Speaker 1: like like and even in interviews and stuff, Yeah, Leonardo

509
00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:55,874
Speaker 1: di Copprier not hot. No, you're at the oscars so hot,

510
00:21:56,434 --> 00:21:57,634
Speaker 1: like a butterfly.

511
00:21:58,874 --> 00:21:59,314
Speaker 2: Person.

512
00:21:59,634 --> 00:22:01,474
Speaker 1: I think he just and the thing is he pretty

513
00:22:01,514 --> 00:22:03,314
Speaker 1: much knew he wasn't gonna win. The beginning of the

514
00:22:03,354 --> 00:22:05,594
Speaker 1: season front runner to win. He kept dropping back, dropping

515
00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:07,594
Speaker 1: back dropping back, and I think he knew he wasn't

516
00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:10,914
Speaker 1: gonna win. And he showed up, which is nice to be,

517
00:22:10,994 --> 00:22:12,914
Speaker 1: my guess, and he looked just look hot.

518
00:22:13,434 --> 00:22:14,434
Speaker 2: I don't know how I did it.

519
00:22:14,474 --> 00:22:16,594
Speaker 1: I think he was like again, the resist I mentioned

520
00:22:16,594 --> 00:22:18,714
Speaker 1: his mom before, is like, if I didn't see his

521
00:22:18,794 --> 00:22:21,354
Speaker 1: mum everywhere, unless she's a stunt woman, I would believe

522
00:22:21,394 --> 00:22:23,634
Speaker 1: he was just like a robotter and alien created to

523
00:22:23,714 --> 00:22:26,594
Speaker 1: attend the Oscars. Yeah, because that is all he cares about.

524
00:22:26,834 --> 00:22:28,834
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Though that makes sense.

525
00:22:28,874 --> 00:22:31,234
Speaker 1: I wonder if he because he's always also been Timothy

526
00:22:31,314 --> 00:22:35,714
Speaker 1: Chalamey is like mentor. Oh and he is the one

527
00:22:35,714 --> 00:22:38,593
Speaker 1: who gave Timothy his advice on how to become like

528
00:22:38,634 --> 00:22:41,033
Speaker 1: a proper actor, how to win awards. And the advice

529
00:22:41,114 --> 00:22:42,714
Speaker 1: was no hard drugs, no action movies.

530
00:22:43,194 --> 00:22:43,634
Speaker 2: Didn't work.

531
00:22:43,674 --> 00:22:44,674
Speaker 1: Still didn't didn't work, did it?

532
00:22:45,194 --> 00:22:46,793
Speaker 2: But also he should do drugs.

533
00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:51,314
Speaker 1: And next moment it's like Superman Part twenty five starring

534
00:22:51,394 --> 00:22:53,234
Speaker 1: Timothy Chalamay and he's coaked out of his head on

535
00:22:53,314 --> 00:22:54,874
Speaker 1: the whole press one. No, but I'm sure that you

536
00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:56,434
Speaker 1: would say to him, how I was nominated like ten

537
00:22:56,474 --> 00:22:59,594
Speaker 1: times before I won, and so you're only on three.

538
00:23:00,034 --> 00:23:03,034
Speaker 2: Actually might be a bad luck charm for Timmy. Oh yeah,

539
00:23:03,074 --> 00:23:05,874
Speaker 2: you know, only got like what eight more nominations before.

540
00:23:05,594 --> 00:23:07,674
Speaker 1: He went, see I reckon, They're gonna way make him

541
00:23:07,674 --> 00:23:10,674
Speaker 1: wait to win, tim Oh, but then he wins.

542
00:23:10,674 --> 00:23:10,874
Speaker 3: Everyone.

543
00:23:10,914 --> 00:23:14,194
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, so best supporting Actor? Where were we

544
00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:16,554
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio Hot, No, we're talking about presenters. Oh my god,

545
00:23:16,554 --> 00:23:19,554
Speaker 1: this is a very episode. So we had the bridesmaids there.

546
00:23:19,994 --> 00:23:23,914
Speaker 1: We also had Nicole Kimman and you and McGregor reunite

547
00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:26,434
Speaker 1: from a morn rouge. And this might be the first

548
00:23:26,434 --> 00:23:28,474
Speaker 1: time you and I watched the Oscars together. Yes, it

549
00:23:28,554 --> 00:23:29,994
Speaker 1: might be the first time. We always a little fight.

550
00:23:30,274 --> 00:23:32,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave me the eck hardcore.

551
00:23:32,914 --> 00:23:33,594
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

552
00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:35,434
Speaker 2: Well, I firstly thought they were drunk.

553
00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:38,273
Speaker 1: That's just I think that's very much their vibe. Yeah,

554
00:23:38,354 --> 00:23:40,634
Speaker 1: but if I saw Nicole kimmer not acting like she

555
00:23:40,674 --> 00:23:42,714
Speaker 1: was drunk, she I'd actually think she's rarely ever drunk.

556
00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:44,554
Speaker 1: I think that's just her personality. I love that for her.

557
00:23:44,834 --> 00:23:45,354
Speaker 2: Interesting.

558
00:23:45,514 --> 00:23:48,354
Speaker 1: She's just a very like wishy washy. I've interviewed her once,

559
00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:50,554
Speaker 1: but I've met her many times. Yeah, and that's how

560
00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:52,074
Speaker 1: she's like if it's just the two of you stating

561
00:23:52,114 --> 00:23:54,154
Speaker 1: in the corner over at a party, I get that.

562
00:23:54,194 --> 00:23:55,354
Speaker 1: I get how she behaves.

563
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,634
Speaker 2: I recently met a few people who are not in

564
00:23:58,674 --> 00:24:01,314
Speaker 2: her inner circle, but like in the industry, who know her.

565
00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:05,714
Speaker 1: Yea, And what do you meet these people not through you?

566
00:24:05,874 --> 00:24:07,674
Speaker 1: Which is so funny, you have other friend.

567
00:24:09,314 --> 00:24:13,194
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I understand Nicole Kidman now, just

568
00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:16,954
Speaker 2: because I feel like TV and movie people are a

569
00:24:16,994 --> 00:24:17,634
Speaker 2: bit weird.

570
00:24:17,954 --> 00:24:19,994
Speaker 1: They're so weird, and I think that's okay because when

571
00:24:19,994 --> 00:24:22,194
Speaker 1: someone becomes a movie star, you kind of expect them

572
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:25,554
Speaker 1: to be like very sort of like proper and straight

573
00:24:25,634 --> 00:24:27,394
Speaker 1: lace and stuff, and you like, there's another world where

574
00:24:27,434 --> 00:24:31,594
Speaker 1: Nicole Kimmen is like a working theater jobbing actress in Australia,

575
00:24:31,634 --> 00:24:33,754
Speaker 1: which I honestly think she would have also done that.

576
00:24:33,794 --> 00:24:35,674
Speaker 1: I think she likes being famous and rich, but I

577
00:24:35,714 --> 00:24:36,794
Speaker 1: also think when you look at a lot of the

578
00:24:36,874 --> 00:24:39,434
Speaker 1: roles she's had, that she would just be if she

579
00:24:39,434 --> 00:24:41,554
Speaker 1: hadn't made it so big and Hollywood become a movie star,

580
00:24:41,594 --> 00:24:44,154
Speaker 1: that she would be just doing a bunch of crazy

581
00:24:44,194 --> 00:24:46,474
Speaker 1: theater productions and would just be like a very odd

582
00:24:46,514 --> 00:24:49,074
Speaker 1: like that crazy artistic woman who lives down the road,

583
00:24:49,194 --> 00:24:52,114
Speaker 1: like puts her backpack onto it the theater at night, yeah,

584
00:24:52,154 --> 00:24:54,033
Speaker 1: and has like wild hair, and like that's what she

585
00:24:54,074 --> 00:24:56,074
Speaker 1: would be. That's so true, and just that we made

586
00:24:56,074 --> 00:24:58,114
Speaker 1: her a movie star and we can't fault her for

587
00:24:58,154 --> 00:25:00,914
Speaker 1: also being the quirky like actress that shit. So she

588
00:25:01,034 --> 00:25:04,234
Speaker 1: and you and McGregor a reunited to celebrate twenty five

589
00:25:04,394 --> 00:25:09,314
Speaker 1: years of Morn Rouge. Yeah, that's like the same age. Unially,

590
00:25:09,754 --> 00:25:11,954
Speaker 1: you're a child. When that movie came out, it was ten,

591
00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:15,234
Speaker 1: you're not thirty five? Wait, how long twenty five? Yeah,

592
00:25:15,554 --> 00:25:18,314
Speaker 1: I would have been five, you're five. I was older

593
00:25:18,314 --> 00:25:19,714
Speaker 1: than man. Yeah, I can't believe it's been that long.

594
00:25:19,754 --> 00:25:21,794
Speaker 1: So they got up there, they got together, and they've

595
00:25:21,794 --> 00:25:24,114
Speaker 1: remained close over the years. Like his daughter has starred

596
00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:25,234
Speaker 1: in movies and things.

597
00:25:25,314 --> 00:25:29,274
Speaker 2: But they have that height gap in the movie.

598
00:25:28,794 --> 00:25:31,634
Speaker 1: Just I think she had very tall shoes on, and

599
00:25:31,714 --> 00:25:33,034
Speaker 1: I also do think he's gotten shorter.

600
00:25:35,554 --> 00:25:38,394
Speaker 2: It was like like worse than Tom Cruise level.

601
00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:40,754
Speaker 1: No, Tom Cruise is like I would love to be

602
00:25:40,874 --> 00:25:43,073
Speaker 1: that doll. So They started with a little bantry bit

603
00:25:43,114 --> 00:25:46,114
Speaker 1: about love. Yeah, and then they segued into singing a

604
00:25:46,114 --> 00:25:48,194
Speaker 1: song from the movie and I'm sorry it was cheesy

605
00:25:48,234 --> 00:25:49,474
Speaker 1: as help. I freaking loved it.

606
00:25:49,994 --> 00:25:51,034
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you did.

607
00:25:51,114 --> 00:25:52,714
Speaker 1: Yeah. I looked over at you and you're you the

608
00:25:52,794 --> 00:25:54,034
Speaker 1: most horrified look on your face.

609
00:25:54,074 --> 00:25:56,914
Speaker 2: I was gonna throw out that's fine. I didn't. I didn't.

610
00:25:56,954 --> 00:25:59,314
Speaker 1: Here's a hot take that maybe we won't clip and

611
00:25:59,354 --> 00:26:02,234
Speaker 1: put on the internet because I'll get crucified. Worst presentages

612
00:26:02,234 --> 00:26:04,314
Speaker 1: of the night. Someone has to say it.

613
00:26:04,474 --> 00:26:05,394
Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say.

614
00:26:05,394 --> 00:26:07,234
Speaker 1: Someone has to say, and I will worst percentage the

615
00:26:07,354 --> 00:26:08,754
Speaker 1: nights and day I and Rob Pattinson.

616
00:26:08,994 --> 00:26:13,274
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say something like that. Crazy,

617
00:26:13,314 --> 00:26:15,474
Speaker 2: but I was really disappointed.

618
00:26:15,594 --> 00:26:17,954
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I just think that something has happened.

619
00:26:17,954 --> 00:26:20,914
Speaker 1: She just fun. Something's happened there. I don't know what happened.

620
00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:22,194
Speaker 2: To think because she's gotten married.

621
00:26:22,474 --> 00:26:25,114
Speaker 1: Oh now she's not fun. I mean you said that.

622
00:26:25,154 --> 00:26:26,714
Speaker 1: I didn't. No, no, no, don't.

623
00:26:26,794 --> 00:26:28,434
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of things that have changed.

624
00:26:28,474 --> 00:26:30,714
Speaker 1: And the last time she was she was such a

625
00:26:30,754 --> 00:26:32,834
Speaker 1: big deal because they didn't look the red carpet that

626
00:26:32,874 --> 00:26:33,234
Speaker 1: I saw.

627
00:26:33,314 --> 00:26:34,754
Speaker 2: Do you think they don't like each other? No?

628
00:26:34,634 --> 00:26:36,314
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think that. I just think something.

629
00:26:36,554 --> 00:26:38,474
Speaker 1: They didn't have a bit written for them. They didn't

630
00:26:38,474 --> 00:26:40,754
Speaker 1: have a thing they announced. And the reason that a

631
00:26:40,794 --> 00:26:42,954
Speaker 1: lot of co stars present like that, it's to do

632
00:26:43,074 --> 00:26:44,114
Speaker 1: promo for the movie.

633
00:26:44,194 --> 00:26:45,314
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, no, I don't want to watch

634
00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:46,194
Speaker 2: this movie. You guys are borrying.

635
00:26:46,274 --> 00:26:48,914
Speaker 1: So usually when you have co stars come out together

636
00:26:49,234 --> 00:26:51,073
Speaker 1: before their movie comes out, it's been set up by

637
00:26:51,074 --> 00:26:53,794
Speaker 1: the studio or agree with the oscars. Sometimes they take

638
00:26:53,794 --> 00:26:55,554
Speaker 1: it too far and they play the trailer. I remember

639
00:26:55,594 --> 00:26:56,754
Speaker 1: they did that for The Little Mermaid and they're like,

640
00:26:56,754 --> 00:26:58,273
Speaker 1: and here's the trailer for a Little Mermaid And I'm like,

641
00:26:58,314 --> 00:27:01,274
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you might add space during the Oscar ceremony.

642
00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:03,434
Speaker 1: You can't do that. But they came out and you

643
00:27:03,474 --> 00:27:06,594
Speaker 1: can see everyone was really hyped because everyone loves them

644
00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:09,154
Speaker 1: and everyone's like sided for this movie. And they came

645
00:27:09,474 --> 00:27:12,434
Speaker 1: together the drama and then they both looked amazing and

646
00:27:12,474 --> 00:27:14,514
Speaker 1: they just walked out like stone faced.

647
00:27:15,154 --> 00:27:18,874
Speaker 2: Felt like something happened between them, unless it's like a

648
00:27:18,914 --> 00:27:19,434
Speaker 2: meta thing.

649
00:27:19,674 --> 00:27:21,634
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was even that they didn't have

650
00:27:21,714 --> 00:27:23,554
Speaker 1: chemistry and things like that. It's just like they didn't

651
00:27:23,594 --> 00:27:25,514
Speaker 1: have a joke or a bit. Everyone has a bit

652
00:27:25,554 --> 00:27:28,074
Speaker 1: written for them. Yea, when they come out, everyone has

653
00:27:28,234 --> 00:27:28,714
Speaker 1: Do you think.

654
00:27:28,594 --> 00:27:29,793
Speaker 2: Something changed last minute?

655
00:27:29,874 --> 00:27:32,194
Speaker 1: I just wonder if like a joke was cut last minute,

656
00:27:32,274 --> 00:27:34,754
Speaker 1: or something happened, or like someone didn't sign off on something.

657
00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:36,834
Speaker 1: It seems crazy that would happen for the Oscars because

658
00:27:36,834 --> 00:27:38,874
Speaker 1: the scripts are written so far in advance. They have

659
00:27:38,914 --> 00:27:41,594
Speaker 1: a writer's room for the Oscars. The talent who present

660
00:27:41,634 --> 00:27:44,314
Speaker 1: it like they have to get their agents and everything

661
00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,274
Speaker 1: involved to sign off and it. They have rehearsals where

662
00:27:46,274 --> 00:27:49,073
Speaker 1: they come the day before and they rehearsed their bit

663
00:27:49,154 --> 00:27:50,994
Speaker 1: over and over again. You see pictures of like celebs

664
00:27:50,994 --> 00:27:52,234
Speaker 1: and like sweatpants.

665
00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:53,354
Speaker 2: And they were to rehearsed because these guys have been

666
00:27:53,394 --> 00:27:54,553
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time together.

667
00:27:54,794 --> 00:27:56,954
Speaker 1: They walked down stage. I can't remember. It was so

668
00:27:57,314 --> 00:27:58,954
Speaker 1: such a non event. I can't even remember what they

669
00:27:59,114 --> 00:28:01,034
Speaker 1: were presenting the award for. They just walked out and said,

670
00:28:01,194 --> 00:28:04,474
Speaker 1: we're here to present the award for berber But and

671
00:28:04,474 --> 00:28:06,474
Speaker 1: they just left. Yeah, And I'm like, what a waste

672
00:28:06,474 --> 00:28:08,954
Speaker 1: of Zendea and Robert Pattinson, two of our most of

673
00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:11,474
Speaker 1: the love stars who have been having until now a

674
00:28:11,554 --> 00:28:13,194
Speaker 1: great press run. I don't think's going to affect the

675
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:15,154
Speaker 1: movie at all. It just felt very jarring.

676
00:28:15,474 --> 00:28:16,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they left, and I was like, did

677
00:28:16,954 --> 00:28:20,194
Speaker 2: I miss something, especially because every other presenter had a

678
00:28:20,234 --> 00:28:21,394
Speaker 2: little bit too.

679
00:28:21,394 --> 00:28:23,354
Speaker 1: Honest, the bits were getting a bit lower. The bridesmaid's

680
00:28:23,394 --> 00:28:25,314
Speaker 1: bit with the notes were so funny, and they did

681
00:28:25,354 --> 00:28:26,914
Speaker 1: make a joke about going on so long. But it

682
00:28:26,954 --> 00:28:29,954
Speaker 1: was okay because Adrian Brody out. Adrian Brody came on

683
00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:32,794
Speaker 1: and did the whole thing. He had props. Nicole and

684
00:28:32,874 --> 00:28:36,834
Speaker 1: Ewan were singing we had an Avengers reunion. Yeah, Robert

685
00:28:36,954 --> 00:28:39,994
Speaker 1: Danny Junior and Chris Evans, they had channing Taintum's underwear

686
00:28:40,234 --> 00:28:41,794
Speaker 1: and they tried to get back to Everyone else had

687
00:28:41,834 --> 00:28:45,674
Speaker 1: a big bit and these two just came out and

688
00:28:45,714 --> 00:28:48,234
Speaker 1: then looked like they weren't meant to be their own left. Yeah.

689
00:28:48,274 --> 00:28:50,434
Speaker 1: I just want some answers. It's the Oscars mystery and.

690
00:28:50,394 --> 00:28:51,834
Speaker 2: Not Okay, who do we contact about this?

691
00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:54,874
Speaker 1: Yeah? The academy. Okay, we'll get their email. I'll start

692
00:28:54,914 --> 00:28:59,154
Speaker 1: typing inquiries to the academy. Was like, what went wrong here?

693
00:29:00,954 --> 00:29:04,114
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say what surprised me. Yes, I

694
00:29:04,154 --> 00:29:06,234
Speaker 2: think we missed it because we were recording the red

695
00:29:06,274 --> 00:29:10,754
Speaker 2: carpet while there's a but the winners for the best

696
00:29:10,794 --> 00:29:12,554
Speaker 2: short was tied.

697
00:29:12,634 --> 00:29:15,474
Speaker 1: Yeah, which rarely it's happened to me once before.

698
00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:18,034
Speaker 2: I think it was the only seven time in history

699
00:29:18,114 --> 00:29:21,434
Speaker 2: in Oscar's history does it happened. And I feel like

700
00:29:21,794 --> 00:29:24,674
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be allowed it Well, how would you get

701
00:29:24,714 --> 00:29:25,674
Speaker 2: an exact tie?

702
00:29:25,874 --> 00:29:28,554
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, but I guess low of probabilities it

703
00:29:28,554 --> 00:29:31,274
Speaker 1: can happen. There's legal things around the oscars because there's

704
00:29:31,274 --> 00:29:33,874
Speaker 1: money and stuff tied up it. So Price Waterhouse Coopers

705
00:29:34,074 --> 00:29:36,714
Speaker 1: is the third party who does all the vote counting,

706
00:29:37,154 --> 00:29:38,994
Speaker 1: and that's why you see them like walking in with

707
00:29:39,074 --> 00:29:42,434
Speaker 1: like their sealed like briefcases with like the ballots and stuff.

708
00:29:42,434 --> 00:29:44,714
Speaker 1: Because legally, it's like if you have a lottery, like

709
00:29:44,794 --> 00:29:47,434
Speaker 1: you have to legally have someone vetted and make sure

710
00:29:47,474 --> 00:29:49,274
Speaker 1: it's like a third party and make sure it's all,

711
00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:51,434
Speaker 1: you know, done properly. And the OSCARS runs that way

712
00:29:51,474 --> 00:29:53,714
Speaker 1: as well, so if there's a tie, there has to

713
00:29:53,754 --> 00:29:56,434
Speaker 1: be a tie. They can't get people to revote and

714
00:29:56,434 --> 00:29:59,754
Speaker 1: they can't change it. So it was funny because Kamel Nanjiani,

715
00:30:00,034 --> 00:30:02,074
Speaker 1: who I love so much, was just like he took

716
00:30:02,074 --> 00:30:04,314
Speaker 1: it so seriously. He's like, there's been a tie, and

717
00:30:04,954 --> 00:30:05,434
Speaker 1: they had to.

718
00:30:05,354 --> 00:30:07,554
Speaker 2: Pre tell They definitely pre told him that to type

719
00:30:07,554 --> 00:30:09,514
Speaker 2: because he had to know exactly what happened.

720
00:30:09,554 --> 00:30:11,034
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he had had to have a plan. The

721
00:30:11,074 --> 00:30:12,754
Speaker 1: plan was, I'm go, He's like, I'm going to announce

722
00:30:12,794 --> 00:30:14,834
Speaker 1: one winner, and then they are going to come to

723
00:30:14,874 --> 00:30:16,634
Speaker 1: their speech and I'm gonna announce the other winner, and

724
00:30:16,674 --> 00:30:18,154
Speaker 1: then they're going to come up and do their speech.

725
00:30:18,194 --> 00:30:19,554
Speaker 1: And then he did make a joke of like, it's

726
00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:21,394
Speaker 1: so funny that the short film category is going to

727
00:30:21,434 --> 00:30:22,634
Speaker 1: take the longest double.

728
00:30:22,394 --> 00:30:26,394
Speaker 2: The amount of time. Because he's a comedian, he was saying,

729
00:30:26,754 --> 00:30:28,794
Speaker 2: I promise this is not a joke. That it's not

730
00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:32,754
Speaker 2: a joke. What I think for future ties because they

731
00:30:32,754 --> 00:30:35,514
Speaker 2: both got oscars. Happy for them, but I think they

732
00:30:35,554 --> 00:30:38,034
Speaker 2: need to cut the oscar in half. One gets top half,

733
00:30:38,074 --> 00:30:38,994
Speaker 2: the other gets past.

734
00:30:39,074 --> 00:30:40,874
Speaker 1: What would you like the top of the bottom, bottom

735
00:30:40,914 --> 00:30:42,714
Speaker 1: of keep Oh my god, I would love the top o.

736
00:30:42,954 --> 00:30:45,394
Speaker 2: The bottom has the pluk Well even your top it's

737
00:30:45,394 --> 00:30:46,154
Speaker 2: just gonna lie down.

738
00:30:46,234 --> 00:30:49,474
Speaker 1: Flash.

739
00:30:48,074 --> 00:30:57,434
Speaker 2: Second, the fact that I thought about to.

740
00:30:57,474 --> 00:31:00,034
Speaker 1: Because I'm like picturing a seven body and I was like,

741
00:31:00,074 --> 00:31:05,194
Speaker 1: surely you want the head of the oscar you can? Okay, well,

742
00:31:05,234 --> 00:31:07,114
Speaker 1: I would just I guess I would just walk around

743
00:31:07,154 --> 00:31:09,554
Speaker 1: with it in my hand like a little stubby broken.

744
00:31:09,234 --> 00:31:10,594
Speaker 2: And mine will have the plaku at the boom, which

745
00:31:10,594 --> 00:31:11,514
Speaker 2: you'll have my name on it.

746
00:31:11,634 --> 00:31:15,554
Speaker 1: Okay, well, our names because we want it to get Wow.

747
00:31:15,594 --> 00:31:17,914
Speaker 1: A lot to think about there. Okay, moving into the

748
00:31:18,074 --> 00:31:20,834
Speaker 1: can we go into the performances? Okay, yeah, okay.

749
00:31:20,954 --> 00:31:25,434
Speaker 2: Firstly, Sinner's performance so good. Oh my god. If you

750
00:31:25,474 --> 00:31:26,674
Speaker 2: haven't watched Sinna's what the hell?

751
00:31:26,874 --> 00:31:28,314
Speaker 1: No, there are people in the world who haven't.

752
00:31:28,314 --> 00:31:29,034
Speaker 2: Okay, watch it.

753
00:31:29,314 --> 00:31:31,114
Speaker 1: When they said when they said thank you, people who've

754
00:31:31,114 --> 00:31:33,674
Speaker 1: watched this maybe four times, you're like, that's me. I'm like,

755
00:31:33,714 --> 00:31:37,194
Speaker 1: that's me going cinemas four times, and cinemas, yes, multiple times.

756
00:31:37,194 --> 00:31:39,914
Speaker 1: Outside of cinemas. I think I'm probably a tesh because

757
00:31:39,914 --> 00:31:41,834
Speaker 1: I watched it on the plane twice instead of watching

758
00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:44,114
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt's movie, I watched. I watched it on the

759
00:31:44,154 --> 00:31:45,754
Speaker 1: way in New York and on the way back. It's

760
00:31:45,994 --> 00:31:48,314
Speaker 1: a movie. Now, such a good plane with that's a

761
00:31:48,314 --> 00:31:48,914
Speaker 1: good plane movie.

762
00:31:49,194 --> 00:31:51,954
Speaker 2: There's this big scene Incinams, which is I think one

763
00:31:51,994 --> 00:31:55,034
Speaker 2: of the best scenes in cinema history, where they're kind

764
00:31:55,034 --> 00:31:58,994
Speaker 2: of talking through the history of black music and there's

765
00:31:59,034 --> 00:32:01,434
Speaker 2: a scene in the bar where they're all dancing and

766
00:32:01,474 --> 00:32:05,074
Speaker 2: then you see like dances from history, different types of dance,

767
00:32:05,154 --> 00:32:08,034
Speaker 2: different types of music, and it's like there's big, massive

768
00:32:08,074 --> 00:32:10,434
Speaker 2: party that's all happening, and it's also kind of like

769
00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:12,794
Speaker 2: happening in their heads at the same time. It's so

770
00:32:13,074 --> 00:32:16,674
Speaker 2: well done, and that's what they replicated on stage at.

771
00:32:16,554 --> 00:32:19,434
Speaker 1: THEA and famously not in the first few drafts the

772
00:32:19,474 --> 00:32:21,994
Speaker 1: movie added in later on, much later on to amazing.

773
00:32:22,194 --> 00:32:25,954
Speaker 2: It was so so good. And then right at the end,

774
00:32:26,114 --> 00:32:30,234
Speaker 2: like as the song was finishing, a ballerina yeah to

775
00:32:30,314 --> 00:32:32,314
Speaker 2: the front of the stage and does like a bit

776
00:32:32,354 --> 00:32:35,514
Speaker 2: of a solo moment, like just her and the audience basically,

777
00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:37,674
Speaker 2: and everyone else moved to the back and that's when

778
00:32:37,674 --> 00:32:40,714
Speaker 2: the song ended, and the dancers who were on stage

779
00:32:40,914 --> 00:32:43,274
Speaker 2: weren't like the main people on stage. It was like

780
00:32:43,274 --> 00:32:46,554
Speaker 2: the singers obviously, and the fact that I felt they

781
00:32:46,594 --> 00:32:49,074
Speaker 2: made a some maybe some last minute changes to make

782
00:32:49,074 --> 00:32:51,794
Speaker 2: the ballerina finish at the front of the stage, right

783
00:32:51,794 --> 00:32:53,434
Speaker 2: in front of a young Timothy Shallow.

784
00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:56,274
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, so good.

785
00:32:56,594 --> 00:32:58,834
Speaker 2: I think it was just a beautiful moment.

786
00:32:58,954 --> 00:33:01,274
Speaker 1: The Oscars has a sense of humor like that. We

787
00:33:01,394 --> 00:33:05,634
Speaker 1: talk about the performance of Golden, which we watched it

788
00:33:05,634 --> 00:33:08,314
Speaker 1: with our entire office. We have a TV above my

789
00:33:08,474 --> 00:33:10,514
Speaker 1: desk and we're all watching it there, which, to be honest,

790
00:33:10,634 --> 00:33:12,074
Speaker 1: with quite a sort of neck right now from being

791
00:33:12,194 --> 00:33:16,354
Speaker 1: like this the whole time, our entire team hysterically laughing,

792
00:33:16,434 --> 00:33:19,314
Speaker 1: not at the amazing performers singing Golden because everyone loves

793
00:33:19,314 --> 00:33:21,754
Speaker 1: that song and when one best song, everyone's like up

794
00:33:21,754 --> 00:33:26,154
Speaker 1: on their feet garing, but because of a little audience participation. Yeah,

795
00:33:26,234 --> 00:33:26,994
Speaker 1: if you haven't.

796
00:33:26,754 --> 00:33:29,274
Speaker 2: Watched K pop Demon Hunters, what the hell are you doing? Yeah,

797
00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:30,754
Speaker 2: it's also a great movie.

798
00:33:30,674 --> 00:33:34,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch that great movie on a planet playing movie.

799
00:33:34,714 --> 00:33:37,634
Speaker 2: When the characters are singing Golden in the movie, the

800
00:33:37,674 --> 00:33:41,674
Speaker 2: audience are all holding like these little flashing light bulbs

801
00:33:41,874 --> 00:33:44,114
Speaker 2: and they're like kind of like jumping to the side.

802
00:33:44,634 --> 00:33:47,514
Speaker 2: So the Oscars decided, it's a great idea that while

803
00:33:47,554 --> 00:33:51,554
Speaker 2: these beautiful performers are singing the song, to replicate that moment.

804
00:33:52,794 --> 00:33:55,674
Speaker 1: The same idea whoever came up with that, So they handed.

805
00:33:55,314 --> 00:33:57,994
Speaker 2: Out everyone in the audience these like lit up I

806
00:33:58,034 --> 00:33:58,474
Speaker 2: don't know.

807
00:33:58,394 --> 00:34:00,394
Speaker 1: These little hand held it up glow.

808
00:34:00,234 --> 00:34:04,394
Speaker 2: Yeah, globs that like flashed yellow and white light. However,

809
00:34:04,994 --> 00:34:08,914
Speaker 2: because it's the Oscars, the audience, the most famous people

810
00:34:09,074 --> 00:34:12,234
Speaker 2: in them, the most serious actors, and it was like

811
00:34:12,274 --> 00:34:13,634
Speaker 2: they're at a tailor Swift concert.

812
00:34:13,714 --> 00:34:16,714
Speaker 1: It was so funny, and again I'm so angry whoever

813
00:34:17,074 --> 00:34:19,154
Speaker 1: I actually like the Oscars, like filming and production was

814
00:34:19,194 --> 00:34:21,954
Speaker 1: quite good this year. But whoever was filming that segment?

815
00:34:22,274 --> 00:34:23,914
Speaker 1: I guess, lovely job to keep it on the stage

816
00:34:23,914 --> 00:34:25,834
Speaker 1: for the performers, But where were the audience cans?

817
00:34:25,834 --> 00:34:26,634
Speaker 2: I needed an audience.

818
00:34:26,674 --> 00:34:28,393
Speaker 1: I needed an audience. We only got the view from

819
00:34:28,394 --> 00:34:32,234
Speaker 1: the back. I wanted a close up shot of Gwyneth

820
00:34:32,274 --> 00:34:34,953
Speaker 1: Paltrow with her little golden globe being told she has

821
00:34:34,994 --> 00:34:37,754
Speaker 1: to shake it. I wanted one of Leonardo DiCaprio. Leonardo

822
00:34:37,754 --> 00:34:40,513
Speaker 1: Dicapris still has no idea what K pop is percent

823
00:34:40,634 --> 00:34:42,393
Speaker 1: no idea, what k pop is, No idea, what that

824
00:34:42,394 --> 00:34:44,234
Speaker 1: song was, no idea why he was told to shake

825
00:34:44,274 --> 00:34:46,794
Speaker 1: a globe. But he's like, I guess I'm here and hot,

826
00:34:46,834 --> 00:34:48,473
Speaker 1: I've got my one night of hotness. For the year.

827
00:34:48,794 --> 00:34:50,993
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan was just tapping it on his thigh.

828
00:34:51,234 --> 00:34:53,794
Speaker 1: I know what to do. Emma Stone was like getting

829
00:34:53,794 --> 00:34:56,953
Speaker 1: into it like a whole Poor Mesca looked so confused. Again,

830
00:34:56,994 --> 00:34:59,354
Speaker 1: we couldn't really see them. I'm kind of manifesting, but like,

831
00:34:59,554 --> 00:35:01,514
Speaker 1: it's the most famous people. That's why our whole office

832
00:35:01,554 --> 00:35:04,473
Speaker 1: was hysterical. It's most famous, serious people in the world,

833
00:35:04,514 --> 00:35:07,514
Speaker 1: Like we're serious actors, all sitting there at the tables

834
00:35:07,514 --> 00:35:09,314
Speaker 1: being like, I guess I'm just shaking a globe.

835
00:35:09,314 --> 00:35:11,594
Speaker 2: There was one person in the audience I couldn't tell

836
00:35:11,634 --> 00:35:14,354
Speaker 2: who it was. It was a man, and I need

837
00:35:14,394 --> 00:35:16,473
Speaker 2: someone to find out who it was because I think

838
00:35:16,514 --> 00:35:19,674
Speaker 2: they were all told to like flick the globes on

839
00:35:19,754 --> 00:35:22,634
Speaker 2: the beat, so they're all going boom boom, boom boom,

840
00:35:22,634 --> 00:35:25,274
Speaker 2: as if you're cheering. There was one guy who was

841
00:35:25,314 --> 00:35:28,033
Speaker 2: doing the sway from left to right.

842
00:35:28,114 --> 00:35:30,714
Speaker 1: Well, that guy's not getting high again, very very slowly.

843
00:35:31,274 --> 00:35:33,074
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if he's just doing this

844
00:35:33,194 --> 00:35:36,594
Speaker 2: on purpose, off he's just so into the music that he.

845
00:35:36,754 --> 00:35:39,074
Speaker 1: Just like it just opens say it was Steven Spielberg,

846
00:35:39,394 --> 00:35:42,114
Speaker 1: and that man's over taking direction because he only gives directions,

847
00:35:42,114 --> 00:35:42,993
Speaker 1: so he didn't know what to do.

848
00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,434
Speaker 2: He's like swaying, it's a much better for the cinema.

849
00:35:45,714 --> 00:35:47,154
Speaker 1: But he tell you it's gonna look so much better

850
00:35:47,194 --> 00:35:50,834
Speaker 1: on camera. Let's do that. Anything else you want to

851
00:35:50,914 --> 00:35:53,913
Speaker 1: chat through before we get onto the last three big awards.

852
00:35:54,114 --> 00:35:58,594
Speaker 2: I didn't realize. I mean, obviously I couldn't believe this

853
00:35:58,674 --> 00:36:03,274
Speaker 2: all happened within a year of how many brilliant actors

854
00:36:03,314 --> 00:36:06,913
Speaker 2: and directors we lost this year. Oh yes, Like all

855
00:36:06,954 --> 00:36:11,034
Speaker 2: the tribute, the Bob Rains tribute with his whole cast,

856
00:36:11,234 --> 00:36:13,314
Speaker 2: everyone who he's ever worked were just coming up on

857
00:36:13,354 --> 00:36:17,234
Speaker 2: stage just to kind of pay respect him, and then

858
00:36:17,274 --> 00:36:20,634
Speaker 2: really Crystal doing the whole speech about him and.

859
00:36:20,594 --> 00:36:23,434
Speaker 1: Reading through like Billy Crystals had to give so many

860
00:36:23,554 --> 00:36:26,593
Speaker 1: beautiful immemoriums speech just for his closest friends. And Robert

861
00:36:26,634 --> 00:36:32,034
Speaker 1: Williams so sad, Diane Keaton and Catherine O. Harr and

862
00:36:32,034 --> 00:36:33,754
Speaker 1: it was it was a really beautiful and.

863
00:36:33,754 --> 00:36:37,594
Speaker 2: Rachel mcadam's tribute to Diane Keaton was just so beautiful.

864
00:36:37,914 --> 00:36:40,714
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was actually really really sad. I

865
00:36:40,714 --> 00:36:45,074
Speaker 2: feel like we're now at that age where we're starting

866
00:36:45,114 --> 00:36:47,874
Speaker 2: to see like our generation in particular, starting to see

867
00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:50,393
Speaker 2: our favorite favorite.

868
00:36:50,234 --> 00:36:51,834
Speaker 1: From our childhood movies, from our.

869
00:36:51,794 --> 00:36:55,194
Speaker 2: Childhood movies like pass Away and it's just so sad

870
00:36:55,554 --> 00:36:57,594
Speaker 2: and it now it just feels like there's so much

871
00:36:57,594 --> 00:36:59,554
Speaker 2: like before. When I was younger and watching the Oscars,

872
00:36:59,554 --> 00:37:01,314
Speaker 2: I didn't know any names. I came up on screen

873
00:37:01,354 --> 00:37:03,474
Speaker 2: and it's like, now I know at least eighty percent.

874
00:37:03,634 --> 00:37:06,154
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna bring us to something happy and now,

875
00:37:06,274 --> 00:37:07,593
Speaker 1: so you can get out of that. But you're gonna

876
00:37:07,594 --> 00:37:10,194
Speaker 1: cry again. Seeing you cry before, this is so much

877
00:37:10,234 --> 00:37:16,994
Speaker 1: Okay Best Actor? Oh I just okay, I'm so If

878
00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:19,354
Speaker 1: you listened to it yesterday's episode, I read Carpet Special,

879
00:37:19,714 --> 00:37:21,593
Speaker 1: we couldn't even get words together. We were so because

880
00:37:21,594 --> 00:37:23,314
Speaker 1: we were about to go out and finish watching the Oscars,

881
00:37:23,354 --> 00:37:24,953
Speaker 1: so we're about to find who's going to win.

882
00:37:24,874 --> 00:37:26,834
Speaker 2: Best I felt like this Oscars went so fast as well,

883
00:37:27,114 --> 00:37:28,954
Speaker 2: because I knew like the Best Actor award would be

884
00:37:28,994 --> 00:37:30,954
Speaker 2: like one of the last ones. So I was like, okay,

885
00:37:30,994 --> 00:37:32,674
Speaker 2: I have heaps of time, heaps of time to get

886
00:37:32,714 --> 00:37:35,314
Speaker 2: around this. And then suddenly it was straight away.

887
00:37:35,834 --> 00:37:39,234
Speaker 1: The tension as that award was announced, Adrian Brewby chewing

888
00:37:39,354 --> 00:37:42,474
Speaker 1: his freaking gumb well, the screens. Everyone in our office,

889
00:37:42,474 --> 00:37:44,114
Speaker 1: who's in, like in our section, like our spill team,

890
00:37:44,114 --> 00:37:46,154
Speaker 1: aroun tenpin everyone, and we all gathered around the TV

891
00:37:46,834 --> 00:37:48,714
Speaker 1: and I kept looking over at you. You look like

892
00:37:48,754 --> 00:37:50,994
Speaker 1: you're about to pass out. Yeah. I was actually quite stressed.

893
00:37:51,314 --> 00:37:54,914
Speaker 2: My heart was so fast, I was shaking. I'm not

894
00:37:54,914 --> 00:37:56,913
Speaker 2: even more nervous than anything about Oh my god.

895
00:37:56,954 --> 00:37:58,514
Speaker 1: I felt like we were just in it like I was.

896
00:37:58,554 --> 00:38:00,994
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to do. I felt like

897
00:38:01,034 --> 00:38:03,074
Speaker 1: I was like his mom at the Oscar scene, and

898
00:38:03,154 --> 00:38:05,314
Speaker 1: that was the tension. And then they read out the

899
00:38:05,354 --> 00:38:08,234
Speaker 1: nominees and we're just watching, watching, watching, and I was like,

900
00:38:08,314 --> 00:38:09,994
Speaker 1: oh my god, I think it's going to be Timothy.

901
00:38:11,554 --> 00:38:12,834
Speaker 1: I don't disl like Timothy at all. I know it

902
00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:14,434
Speaker 1: makes it sound like I do on this podcast sometimes,

903
00:38:14,474 --> 00:38:17,274
Speaker 1: but it just felt like such an injustice that it

904
00:38:17,314 --> 00:38:20,514
Speaker 1: wouldn't be Michael B. Jordan when he was clearly sometimes

905
00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:23,114
Speaker 1: artist subjective and sometimes it's very hard to pick who

906
00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:24,834
Speaker 1: is the best, but in this case, like he just

907
00:38:24,994 --> 00:38:25,473
Speaker 1: was the best.

908
00:38:26,154 --> 00:38:28,994
Speaker 2: Guys, even if you listen to our last Friday's episode,

909
00:38:29,034 --> 00:38:30,873
Speaker 2: we were talking about the Oscar movie, It's like, you know,

910
00:38:30,954 --> 00:38:31,794
Speaker 2: how long we've been.

911
00:38:32,154 --> 00:38:33,873
Speaker 1: We've been in this for well over a year.

912
00:38:33,994 --> 00:38:36,114
Speaker 2: I mean when we went to the screening of Sinners,

913
00:38:36,154 --> 00:38:39,354
Speaker 2: like I think Sinners even came out in January last year,

914
00:38:39,394 --> 00:38:41,994
Speaker 2: like that's how long it's been. And we talked about

915
00:38:42,034 --> 00:38:45,194
Speaker 2: how there were so many awful headlines about it, about

916
00:38:45,234 --> 00:38:47,433
Speaker 2: how it never made enough money for box office, which

917
00:38:47,514 --> 00:38:50,314
Speaker 2: no other movie like that warranted a headline like that,

918
00:38:50,634 --> 00:38:53,393
Speaker 2: So they had like so many things working against them

919
00:38:53,474 --> 00:38:56,913
Speaker 2: as like an original ip and the fact that they

920
00:38:56,954 --> 00:39:00,873
Speaker 2: took home I think it was like five Oscars most

921
00:39:00,954 --> 00:39:05,513
Speaker 2: nomination sixteen incredible, and it was just Michael B. Jordan Like, Okay,

922
00:39:05,554 --> 00:39:08,634
Speaker 2: I do want to say, might Supreme is an excellent film.

923
00:39:09,554 --> 00:39:12,314
Speaker 2: Shala may should have won an Oscar for that film,

924
00:39:12,394 --> 00:39:14,954
Speaker 2: except Michael B. Jordan was better if he was in

925
00:39:14,994 --> 00:39:17,954
Speaker 2: the running and Michael Jordan wasn't should.

926
00:39:17,674 --> 00:39:20,674
Speaker 1: Have absolutely absolutely, Yeah, that's the thing where the best

927
00:39:20,674 --> 00:39:23,874
Speaker 1: actors Racist series. They were also Ethan Hawk's incredible Leonardo

928
00:39:23,954 --> 00:39:24,514
Speaker 1: is incredible.

929
00:39:24,674 --> 00:39:27,954
Speaker 2: It was so highly competitive. Michael B. Jordan played two

930
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:32,674
Speaker 2: characters who were twins, and he made them look different.

931
00:39:33,194 --> 00:39:36,074
Speaker 1: One twin was attractive, the other one gave me the

932
00:39:36,114 --> 00:39:37,953
Speaker 1: it and they didn't really do anything to his face.

933
00:39:37,954 --> 00:39:39,074
Speaker 1: That's just the way he held him.

934
00:39:39,114 --> 00:39:42,714
Speaker 2: He held his face. He had dimples for stack and

935
00:39:42,794 --> 00:39:44,114
Speaker 2: like seriousness for smoke.

936
00:39:44,194 --> 00:39:45,914
Speaker 1: I know that is so crazy that you can manifest

937
00:39:45,914 --> 00:39:47,234
Speaker 1: dimples and then get them to go away for a

938
00:39:47,274 --> 00:39:47,954
Speaker 1: different character.

939
00:39:48,194 --> 00:39:51,274
Speaker 2: It was like he just went above and beyond for

940
00:39:51,354 --> 00:39:53,314
Speaker 2: both of those roles. I still think he should have

941
00:39:53,314 --> 00:39:54,714
Speaker 2: won two Oscars because.

942
00:39:54,514 --> 00:39:58,993
Speaker 1: They were It was such a huge moments they caught

943
00:39:58,994 --> 00:40:03,514
Speaker 1: out Michael B. Jordan. We screamed. I threw my hands

944
00:40:03,594 --> 00:40:05,674
Speaker 1: up in the air, like my whole body, like on

945
00:40:05,714 --> 00:40:07,234
Speaker 1: my chair. And then I was like, is this is

946
00:40:07,314 --> 00:40:09,474
Speaker 1: what people feel like when their team wins a sport?

947
00:40:09,754 --> 00:40:12,074
Speaker 1: Because this is that's what it is. It is It's

948
00:40:12,154 --> 00:40:14,714
Speaker 1: like my team has scored a touchdown because like Michael

949
00:40:14,714 --> 00:40:15,954
Speaker 1: we Jordan, like, that's our team.

950
00:40:16,154 --> 00:40:18,034
Speaker 2: I went full of violent.

951
00:40:19,314 --> 00:40:21,154
Speaker 1: You. I actually I guess I thought you're gonna faint again.

952
00:40:21,274 --> 00:40:23,074
Speaker 2: I think I like crumbled. I just had like my

953
00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:24,314
Speaker 2: hands over my face.

954
00:40:24,594 --> 00:40:28,794
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he was my son. He's both our son

955
00:40:28,834 --> 00:40:30,594
Speaker 1: and our boyfriend and her brother and everything.

956
00:40:31,074 --> 00:40:34,754
Speaker 2: I have never been so happy, like I was just

957
00:40:34,874 --> 00:40:37,474
Speaker 2: so happy, and this speech was beautiful.

958
00:40:37,674 --> 00:40:42,314
Speaker 1: He looked so shocked. Everyone around him just erupted like crazy,

959
00:40:42,354 --> 00:40:44,274
Speaker 1: and it was so beautiful. He just like leaned over

960
00:40:44,314 --> 00:40:46,954
Speaker 1: and pressed his forehead against his mum's forehead for a

961
00:40:46,994 --> 00:40:49,513
Speaker 1: few minutes and then took a deep breath and went

962
00:40:49,594 --> 00:40:51,674
Speaker 1: up on stayed and as she had just say before,

963
00:40:51,674 --> 00:40:53,433
Speaker 1: you just mo wented into his speech. The camera went

964
00:40:53,434 --> 00:40:55,834
Speaker 1: straight to Timothy Shallamy and to his credit, not the

965
00:40:55,874 --> 00:40:57,674
Speaker 1: thing is I actually think people should be allowed to

966
00:40:57,794 --> 00:41:01,154
Speaker 1: look disappointed at the Oscars. Angela Bassett a few years

967
00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:04,194
Speaker 1: ago got absolutely roasted because she looked disappointed when she

968
00:41:04,274 --> 00:41:06,754
Speaker 1: lost to Jamie Lee Curtis, and afterwards she was like,

969
00:41:06,874 --> 00:41:08,953
Speaker 1: but I was disappointed because I really wanted to win.

970
00:41:09,034 --> 00:41:10,913
Speaker 1: I was in the chance, and I'm a human being,

971
00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:12,674
Speaker 1: and I just like, oh, I really would have liked

972
00:41:12,714 --> 00:41:14,834
Speaker 1: to have won that. Yeah, And I actually just think

973
00:41:14,914 --> 00:41:17,154
Speaker 1: let people look sad if they want to look sad,

974
00:41:17,154 --> 00:41:18,873
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they hate the person who won.

975
00:41:19,154 --> 00:41:21,034
Speaker 1: But Timothy, I think he's such a I mean this

976
00:41:21,074 --> 00:41:24,433
Speaker 1: is also his third time losing. He's a professional. So

977
00:41:24,554 --> 00:41:27,674
Speaker 1: to his credit, massive smileing face looked over at Michael B.

978
00:41:27,794 --> 00:41:30,354
Speaker 1: Jordan clapping for him, nodding his head like and he

979
00:41:30,474 --> 00:41:32,433
Speaker 1: knew that all eyes were on him. And can I

980
00:41:32,474 --> 00:41:35,194
Speaker 1: just say it was nothing his loss, Timothy Chalamey losing

981
00:41:35,194 --> 00:41:38,634
Speaker 1: the Oscar was nothing to do with the whole viral

982
00:41:38,754 --> 00:41:41,913
Speaker 1: interview about the ballet and the opera, because all the

983
00:41:41,914 --> 00:41:46,473
Speaker 1: ballots were sent in, finished and had been tracked by

984
00:41:46,594 --> 00:41:50,033
Speaker 1: Price Waterhouse Coopers and locked away all before that whole

985
00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:50,674
Speaker 1: thing blew up.

986
00:41:50,754 --> 00:41:54,114
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like the predictions and stuff all said

987
00:41:54,154 --> 00:41:56,674
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan was going to win. This was before,

988
00:41:56,834 --> 00:41:58,754
Speaker 2: like we saw that interview and stuff like that.

989
00:41:58,794 --> 00:42:01,034
Speaker 1: Well, the SAG really changed things because that's the biggest

990
00:42:01,114 --> 00:42:03,834
Speaker 1: voting crossover, So Golden Globes is a bit different.

991
00:42:03,874 --> 00:42:06,794
Speaker 2: But even to that extent, like he was like only

992
00:42:06,834 --> 00:42:08,994
Speaker 2: pretty adicted by like only if.

993
00:42:09,434 --> 00:42:10,994
Speaker 1: I would actually say, if we can see the ballance,

994
00:42:11,034 --> 00:42:12,914
Speaker 1: they would be very close. Yeah. I think it was

995
00:42:12,954 --> 00:42:14,794
Speaker 1: a really close race right up until the end, which

996
00:42:14,794 --> 00:42:16,794
Speaker 1: is how it should be. But yeah, like the thing is,

997
00:42:16,794 --> 00:42:18,433
Speaker 1: see with the show, he's gonna win, o scart. It's fine,

998
00:42:18,474 --> 00:42:21,674
Speaker 1: not worry about him. I do wonder, like what he's

999
00:42:21,714 --> 00:42:25,434
Speaker 1: doing right now. Do wonder if he just crumpled behind

1000
00:42:25,434 --> 00:42:29,554
Speaker 1: the scenes in Kylie Jenner, you'll be Okay, he has

1001
00:42:29,914 --> 00:42:32,274
Speaker 1: eyes on Tipothy right now. We know we hit some

1002
00:42:32,314 --> 00:42:33,874
Speaker 1: after parties and after that, I don't know what happened

1003
00:42:33,874 --> 00:42:33,994
Speaker 1: to me.

1004
00:42:34,034 --> 00:42:37,554
Speaker 2: I'm just so happy for Michael B. Jordan because he's

1005
00:42:37,594 --> 00:42:41,074
Speaker 2: so shocked and happy. He's been trying so hard. He's

1006
00:42:41,154 --> 00:42:44,794
Speaker 2: such a brilliant actor. He's been in so many amazing films.

1007
00:42:44,834 --> 00:42:47,274
Speaker 2: I honestly think he should have won in Black Panther

1008
00:42:47,554 --> 00:42:49,714
Speaker 2: when he was I think he.

1009
00:42:49,674 --> 00:42:54,513
Speaker 1: Should have won for parenthood. Again, I do not want

1010
00:42:54,514 --> 00:42:55,953
Speaker 1: to be that person, but I've been a fan from

1011
00:42:55,954 --> 00:42:56,274
Speaker 1: the star.

1012
00:43:01,394 --> 00:43:03,274
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It just felt and the way

1013
00:43:03,354 --> 00:43:05,674
Speaker 2: he said thank you, like to the culture and for

1014
00:43:05,754 --> 00:43:08,553
Speaker 2: believing in me and for like backing me, I think

1015
00:43:08,634 --> 00:43:12,154
Speaker 2: that is so important, especially we've talked about the Oscars

1016
00:43:12,154 --> 00:43:15,154
Speaker 2: and these awards ceremonies and the type of demographic that

1017
00:43:15,594 --> 00:43:18,714
Speaker 2: like vote for the Oscars, And for the longest time,

1018
00:43:18,754 --> 00:43:21,033
Speaker 2: it was like, if you just looked like those old

1019
00:43:21,034 --> 00:43:23,034
Speaker 2: white guys, you would win. Yeah, And that's who was

1020
00:43:23,074 --> 00:43:26,074
Speaker 2: winning for the longest time. So even with no matter

1021
00:43:26,114 --> 00:43:28,794
Speaker 2: how hard you would tried, the odds were always against

1022
00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:31,874
Speaker 2: people like Michael B. Jordan, and the fact that everyone

1023
00:43:31,994 --> 00:43:34,234
Speaker 2: just backed him for this would have meant the world.

1024
00:43:34,434 --> 00:43:36,714
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's so so important.

1025
00:43:36,714 --> 00:43:39,474
Speaker 2: We love that and everyone with sinnas, come on, man,

1026
00:43:39,554 --> 00:43:40,674
Speaker 2: it's such a good movie.

1027
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:43,314
Speaker 1: You won, you wan, I mean you didn't win everything.

1028
00:43:43,314 --> 00:43:46,073
Speaker 1: We're getting to that Best Actress the thing. We knew

1029
00:43:46,074 --> 00:43:48,674
Speaker 1: it was going to be Jesse Buckley, but I actually

1030
00:43:48,794 --> 00:43:52,034
Speaker 1: loved that even though everyone knew it was gonna be her,

1031
00:43:52,154 --> 00:43:53,913
Speaker 1: she knew it was gonna be her. There's absolutely no

1032
00:43:54,074 --> 00:43:57,274
Speaker 1: way she wasn't gonna win that. She still broke down

1033
00:43:57,314 --> 00:44:00,234
Speaker 1: in tears when it happened because she was just so

1034
00:44:00,354 --> 00:44:03,874
Speaker 1: overcome at winning Best Actress, and she kissed her husband.

1035
00:44:03,954 --> 00:44:06,034
Speaker 1: She got up on stage. Do you see poor Mesca,

1036
00:44:06,114 --> 00:44:08,433
Speaker 1: who's just again just happy to be there, jumping out

1037
00:44:08,434 --> 00:44:09,873
Speaker 1: of his chair and like like.

1038
00:44:09,794 --> 00:44:14,073
Speaker 2: Cluing he is act just waiting for her together, waiting

1039
00:44:14,074 --> 00:44:14,873
Speaker 2: for their turn to be help.

1040
00:44:14,994 --> 00:44:16,874
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they sat in the thing and like clothes,

1041
00:44:16,954 --> 00:44:19,234
Speaker 1: I was like dancing in her seat. And then Ryan

1042
00:44:19,314 --> 00:44:22,394
Speaker 1: Coogler got up and hugged Cloejow because they're really good friends,

1043
00:44:22,474 --> 00:44:24,513
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, you're the actress in your

1044
00:44:24,514 --> 00:44:27,554
Speaker 1: movie One. That's your award too, And then Steven Spielberg

1045
00:44:27,594 --> 00:44:30,234
Speaker 1: who's sitting behind clothe How leaned over and was like

1046
00:44:30,234 --> 00:44:32,314
Speaker 1: like patting her shoulders and knocking her like I love

1047
00:44:32,434 --> 00:44:34,634
Speaker 1: because I do. I wish that clothes How would have won.

1048
00:44:35,274 --> 00:44:38,274
Speaker 1: I know she's on before so but still, yeah, she's

1049
00:44:38,274 --> 00:44:40,634
Speaker 1: just such a good filmmaker and everything. But I love

1050
00:44:40,674 --> 00:44:42,394
Speaker 1: that everyone in the crowd, like all the other directors

1051
00:44:42,394 --> 00:44:44,594
Speaker 1: and all these other very famous successful men were saying

1052
00:44:44,594 --> 00:44:46,914
Speaker 1: to her, like, you take a moment too, this is

1053
00:44:46,954 --> 00:44:48,994
Speaker 1: your winner as well. So that was really nice.

1054
00:44:49,074 --> 00:44:51,514
Speaker 2: And like even her talking about like being a mum

1055
00:44:51,554 --> 00:44:54,154
Speaker 2: and like shouting out all the moms who you have

1056
00:44:54,234 --> 00:44:58,154
Speaker 2: to do like these jobs. It's just like speech was

1057
00:44:58,194 --> 00:45:00,794
Speaker 2: so so all of the speeches actually this whole yeah,

1058
00:45:01,434 --> 00:45:02,234
Speaker 2: so beautiful.

1059
00:45:02,674 --> 00:45:04,794
Speaker 1: Good Sean pen wasn't there because he would have ruined it.

1060
00:45:04,914 --> 00:45:07,714
Speaker 1: He would have won the good streak of speeches everyone.

1061
00:45:07,954 --> 00:45:10,594
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a good thing he's filming in Europe. Okay,

1062
00:45:10,594 --> 00:45:12,393
Speaker 1: coming on to the very last award of the night.

1063
00:45:12,554 --> 00:45:14,914
Speaker 1: At this stage, we kind of knew that it was

1064
00:45:14,954 --> 00:45:16,794
Speaker 1: going to be one battle after another, and it was.

1065
00:45:16,874 --> 00:45:18,994
Speaker 1: It should have been sinners. I'm not even I'm just

1066
00:45:18,994 --> 00:45:22,194
Speaker 1: saying one. Barmstid is a great movie, and it deserves

1067
00:45:22,354 --> 00:45:24,834
Speaker 1: a lot of the accolades it has got. However, I

1068
00:45:24,874 --> 00:45:28,473
Speaker 1: just think Sinners was both a technical and an artistically

1069
00:45:28,514 --> 00:45:30,553
Speaker 1: a better movie. And I do think that's the movie

1070
00:45:30,594 --> 00:45:33,434
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about in ten years. And

1071
00:45:33,514 --> 00:45:36,474
Speaker 1: it's been successful obviously with box office and stuff without

1072
00:45:36,514 --> 00:45:38,674
Speaker 1: the Oscar, But it should have been Sinners.

1073
00:45:38,954 --> 00:45:41,554
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And that's not just because I'm such

1074
00:45:41,594 --> 00:45:44,393
Speaker 2: a diehards in this. It was just the better movie.

1075
00:45:44,554 --> 00:45:46,754
Speaker 2: Like I love the cast of One Battle after Another,

1076
00:45:48,034 --> 00:45:50,593
Speaker 2: such a fun, energetic, like loving cast.

1077
00:45:50,634 --> 00:45:53,033
Speaker 1: She did Tiana Taylor when they won, she was so

1078
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Speaker 1: bloody happy. Taylor in the front row of every award show.

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Speaker 1: She's so good, she's so excited when everyone wins. She's

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Speaker 1: so animated. She is just giving it her all. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, put that woman in everything, even if

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Speaker 1: she's not in the movie, just put her in the

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Speaker 1: front row the time.

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Speaker 2: When One Battle after Another was announced as Best Picture,

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Speaker 2: usually the best picture, it's like the directors and the

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Speaker 2: executive producers walk up first and like the actors trail behind.

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Speaker 1: Na Taylor was first off on that. She was like

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Speaker 1: she was through her arm around Paul Thomas Anderson and

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Speaker 1: I nearly choked him out. She was like giving it.

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Speaker 1: She's like nuzzling her fist into his head and like

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00:46:28,394 --> 00:46:30,034
Speaker 1: slapping him, and he's like, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: We just want an Oscar and she's so crazy and yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like across the ball. I also think for Paul

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Speaker 1: Thomas Anderson, it was a bit of like a it

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Speaker 1: just it's so unfortunate that it's time for him to

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Speaker 1: win an Oscar because he's such a celebrated filmmaker and

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Speaker 1: he hasn't won an Oscar before. It's just unfortunate that

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Speaker 1: his It's Time year came at the same year as Sinners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so they kind of cancel each other out because

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Speaker 1: Paul Thomas Anderson had previously been nominated for something like

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Speaker 1: fourteen times and never won. So everyone was just like,

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Speaker 1: he has to win this time.

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Speaker 2: Bet No, But if he made the better movie, he

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Speaker 2: should have.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: No, no.

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Speaker 1: But the Oscars, at the end of the day, they're

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Speaker 1: just a group of people, and they have politics and

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Speaker 1: in jokes and stories and things that we don't see

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Speaker 1: and things happen, you know what I mean. Like when

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00:47:08,914 --> 00:47:11,554
Speaker 1: it's a little microcosm of people, there's so much like

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Speaker 1: stuff that we don't see. Everyone's like, Paul, we kind

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Speaker 1: of fint him again in fourteen years, like fourteen nominations.

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Speaker 1: He's been at this for so long, We've never given

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Speaker 1: it to him. I've got to go his house for

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Speaker 1: dinner next week. It we be so awkward, he's got

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Speaker 1: no way in vote for him. Like that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff looking at there. So I do think that

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff plays. It's like when actors like

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Speaker 1: Leo shouldn't have run for the Revident.

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Speaker 2: He should have won for Wolf of Fall Street.

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00:47:32,514 --> 00:47:33,914
Speaker 1: True, but they just got to the stage. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: it's a been embarrassing. We haven't given it to him now,

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Speaker 1: And that happens to a lot of actors. Jamie Lee

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Speaker 1: Curtis love her to death, personal friend of mine has

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Speaker 1: shared my interviews and stuff. It shouldn't have won for

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00:47:43,794 --> 00:47:46,393
Speaker 1: everything everywhere all at once, but should have won for

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Speaker 1: many other things she's been in, and so everyone was

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Speaker 1: just like, we don't know when we'll get her up

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Speaker 1: here again, so we have to give it to her

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Speaker 1: now for this, even though we could have given it

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Speaker 1: to her for many other things. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: politics behind so one bottle after another one. And it's

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Speaker 1: a good movie. It is a good movie.

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Speaker 2: Might not as good as Martey Supreme either, I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to say it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like My Supreme better. Maybe I think I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, down the ranking. Actually maybe I like Sentimental

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Speaker 1: Aboue Again. It was just too much of a good movie,

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Speaker 1: like too much of a good year for movies. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, we are shells of human beings right now.

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00:48:24,514 --> 00:48:30,034
Speaker 1: We're both like eyes. We need oscar we need oscars. Leave. Okay,

1144
00:48:30,114 --> 00:48:31,594
Speaker 1: this is what's telling our producers We're not going to

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Speaker 1: be in tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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00:48:32,914 --> 00:48:35,034
Speaker 1: I literally when you said before you gave yourself a headache,

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00:48:35,074 --> 00:48:38,394
Speaker 1: I have like a stress headache. Had My hands are shaking.

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00:48:38,434 --> 00:48:40,754
Speaker 1: The tension was so much, and now I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm just coming down from the biggest, most intense but

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Speaker 1: our boy one. And that's the main thing that's I

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00:48:46,354 --> 00:48:49,074
Speaker 1: think I almost do we almost think that was more

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Speaker 1: important than winning Best Picture.

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Speaker 2: It was for me that was personally that was more

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Speaker 2: important than Sinners winning Best Picture was Michael B. Jordan

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Speaker 2: winning Well, that was just that.

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Speaker 1: Was just right and wrong. Yeah, just good and bad bad,

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00:49:03,714 --> 00:49:08,154
Speaker 1: Like there's a clear line. Oh my god, guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for sticking with us through this whole.

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Speaker 1: We had to go that long. I'm so sorry. There's

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Speaker 1: been a years build up for this.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna cry again? Okay, yeah, this might be it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe don't watch us one on YouTube if you want

1165
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Speaker 1: to see em and I My face looks like a tomato.

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00:49:21,354 --> 00:49:25,114
Speaker 1: I'm so overcom You're crying.

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Speaker 2: Before I know how much. The comparis said, this is

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Speaker 2: how what's happening for the first time? It's Michael Jordan. God,

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Speaker 2: I love I've always loved it like I've always loved

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Speaker 2: him so much.

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00:49:36,874 --> 00:49:42,714
Speaker 1: Should we go another twenty? Okay, we're about to drag

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00:49:42,754 --> 00:49:45,794
Speaker 1: for the room. We're being cut off. The music is playing.

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00:49:46,914 --> 00:49:49,393
Speaker 1: Deserves just take us out and.

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Speaker 2: So well deserved. Okay, thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 2: to the spiel today. Also, don't forget we've been posting

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Speaker 2: a lot of Oscar stuff on our Instagram and our TikTok,

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Speaker 2: so make sure you follow us there. We'll put some

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Speaker 2: links in the show notes. You can also drop into

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00:50:04,194 --> 00:50:06,434
Speaker 2: our DM so we're always checking them. If there's anything

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Speaker 2: you want us to talk about like, for example, the

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Speaker 2: other day, a lot of people wanted you to talk

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Speaker 2: about the whole Buffy thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh guys, it's Can you imagine I talked about that today?

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Speaker 1: I would just impartially honest. With the Buffy announcement coming up,

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Speaker 1: I mean not no, not no. That's enough to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, we will be back here on your feed tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning at seven am with Morning Tea, hosted by the

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Speaker 2: wonderful Ash London. The Spill is produced by Minitius Wirn.

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Speaker 2: We're already producted by Scott Stronik and we will see

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Speaker 2: you very soon.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land.

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Speaker 1: We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor people of

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Speaker 1: the eorination. We pay our respects to their elders past

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Speaker 1: and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait islander cultures.