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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumummy's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. Can Donald Trump be President Forever? The US

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Speaker 2: President has hinted he'd love a third term in the

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Speaker 2: White House, but could he.

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Speaker 1: Actually do it? Plus, it's only Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: But already a big week for Hollywood romances, from Lily

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Speaker 2: Allen's scathing new record to some unlikely couplings and rekindling

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Speaker 2: of relationships gone by. We're checking in with our entertainment

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Speaker 2: editor Tina Burke for all the goths. Before we get there,

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Speaker 2: he is Charlie Blackman with the latest from The Quickie

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Speaker 2: newsroom for Wednesday, October twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Taylor. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nana, who says he

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Speaker 3: has ordered the military to launch powerful attacks in the

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Speaker 3: Gaza Strip after accusing her Mass of violating the ceasefire.

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Speaker 3: His office did not provide details, but an Israeli miller

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Speaker 3: terry officials set her Mass fighters opened fire on Israeli

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Speaker 3: forces in the South, calling it a blatant violation of

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Speaker 3: the truce. Tensions escalated after Israel said her Mass returned

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Speaker 3: to the wrong hostage remains, which Netnyahu described as another

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Speaker 3: breach of the agreement. Hamas initially said it would hand

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Speaker 3: over the body of a missing hostage, but later postpone

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Speaker 3: the transfer, blaming what it calls Israeli violations. There are

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Speaker 3: still thirteen hostage bodies in Gaza. Hamas says continuing Israeli

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Speaker 3: attacks are hindering recovery efforts. While Egypt has sent experts

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Speaker 3: and heavy machinery to assist in the search, the dispute

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Speaker 3: over returning remains threatens the fragile ceasefire and efforts towards

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Speaker 3: broader peace and security arrangements in the region. Hurricane Melissa

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Speaker 3: has made landfall in Jamaica as a powerful Category five storm,

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Speaker 3: bringing destructive winds, flash floods, and landslides across the island nation.

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Speaker 3: The US National High Hurricane Center says wind gusts have

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Speaker 3: reached more than three hundred kilometers an hour, calling it

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Speaker 3: one of the most powerful Atlantic landfalls on record. The

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Speaker 3: World Meteorological Organizations and Claire Fontaine described the situation as catastrophic,

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Speaker 3: saying it will be the storm of the century for Jamaica.

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Speaker 3: Authorities worn storm surges could reach four meters with rainfall

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Speaker 3: totals of up to seven hundred millimeters likely to cause

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Speaker 3: severe flooding and landslides. Hundreds of thousands are already without power,

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Speaker 3: and the Red Cross says as many as one point

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Speaker 3: nationwide as officials urge residents to stay indoors and prepare

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Speaker 3: for potentially days of dangerous conditions. Former Cayama MP Gareth

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Speaker 3: Ward will be sentenced today, more than a decade after

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Speaker 3: sexually assaulting two young men while serving in public office. Ward,

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Speaker 3: aged forty four, was found guilty in July of sexual

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Speaker 3: inter course without consent and three indecent assaults following a

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Speaker 3: eighteen year olds at his South Coast home and later

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Speaker 3: at New South Wales parliament House. Both victims told the

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Speaker 3: court they continued to suffer lasting trauma. Prosecutors said Ward

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Speaker 3: has shown no remorse or steps towards rehabilitation, but his

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Speaker 3: lawyers argued he has already suffered an enormous fall from grace.

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Speaker 3: The former Families minister faces up to fourteen years in

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Speaker 3: appeal against his conviction. Chris Evans and his wife Albert

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Speaker 3: Baptista have welcomed their first child together. The baby was

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Speaker 3: born on Friday, October twenty four in Massachusetts. Evans and

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Speaker 3: Baptista were first linked in January twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 3: The couple married mad in September twenty twenty three in

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Speaker 3: a private ceremony at a Cape Cod estate. Evans previously

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Speaker 3: spoke of wanting to settle down and start a family,

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Speaker 3: saying he values the relationships and loves he builds above

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Speaker 3: professional achievements. The couple has largely kept their relationship private

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Speaker 3: since they became engaged.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie Next Trump Forever, So it's official. President Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump loves the idea of a third term. Recently, he

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Speaker 2: told reporters he'd be into it.

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Speaker 4: I would love to do it, and I have my

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Speaker 4: best Stubb reserver.

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Speaker 2: It's very terrible.

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Speaker 4: I have my best Stubb receipt.

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Speaker 2: You read it.

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Speaker 4: Am I not ruling it out. You'll have to tell me.

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Speaker 4: All I can tell you is that we have a

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Speaker 4: great group of people, which they don't.

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Speaker 2: But is it possible for Trump to attempt to make

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Speaker 2: America great again?

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Speaker 1: Again? And again? Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: The US has a no forever president's rule. The twenty

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Speaker 2: second Amendment says no one can win. The oval offers

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Speaker 2: more than twice.

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Speaker 1: Franklin D.

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Speaker 2: and America has been a strict to and done household

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Speaker 2: ever since. But of course that hasn't stopped Trump from

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Speaker 2: flirting with loopholes. He could amend the constitution, but that's

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Speaker 2: pretty convoluted. Essentially, it takes two thirds of both Houses

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Speaker 2: of Congress or a constitutional convention by three quarters of

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Speaker 2: states to sign off. Or he could pull the vice

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Speaker 2: presidential hack. Trump could run for VP with a friendly

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Speaker 2: figurehead as president, then takeover if that president quits. For example,

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Speaker 2: the current Vice President JD. Vance could run as President

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Speaker 2: Trump his VAT and then to a swapsea after JD

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Speaker 2: lands in the OVAL. All hypothetical, of course. Now look,

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Speaker 2: the likelihood of that happening is pretty slim too. Would

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Speaker 2: you give up a chance to be commander in chief

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Speaker 2: to someone who's already had a couple of craccident.

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Speaker 1: Probably not. Trump himself has brushed off this idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would, because it's too cut.

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Speaker 2: I think the people would like that.

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Speaker 4: It's too cute.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the VP hack probably wouldn't fly I legally either.

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Speaker 2: Then there's, of course the classic dictator move, not moving

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Speaker 2: on even when the party is over. Americans fortunately have

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Speaker 2: an affinity for elections and would probably object if a

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Speaker 2: president barricaded himself in the White House and started issuing

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Speaker 2: decree from the oval office punker. However, it's not all

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Speaker 2: just constitutional cartoons. Trump has been brandishing twenty twenty eight merch,

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Speaker 2: making winking jokes at rallies, and repeatedly not saying that

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't love to try. Legal experts are, well, to

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Speaker 2: put it, lightly, not impressed with his chances, but the

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Speaker 2: faithful remain positive. Former Trump advisor Steve Bannon says, American

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Speaker 2: need it's Trump in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's going to get a third term, So Trump

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Speaker 4: twenty eight. Trump is going to be president of twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: and people just sort of get accommodated with that. At

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Speaker 4: the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is.

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Speaker 4: But there's a plan, and President Trump will be the

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Speaker 4: president in twenty eight in the country needs him to

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Speaker 4: be president United States. We have to finish what we started.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, the only way presidents could serve more than two

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Speaker 2: terms is if America removed the twenty second Amendment, an enormous,

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Speaker 2: highly unlikely constitutional rewrite. So before you go scrawling Trump

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Speaker 2: forever into a tree or a sidewalk, come January twenty,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, it should all be over for the

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Speaker 2: businessman turned reality TV star turn politician. Or will it

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Speaker 2: be the man who no one thought would make it

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Speaker 2: never move out in case he missed it, Lily Allen

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Speaker 2: just released a new album, exposing her ex husband's infidelity

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Speaker 1: After fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: Between records, Lily Allen has just dropped West End Girl,

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Speaker 2: No Holds Barred pop odyssey, in which she lets it

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Speaker 2: Stranger Things actor David Harbor. Don't take my word for it, though,

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Speaker 2: Here's one clip of a TikToker cosplaying as David Harbour's

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Speaker 2: pr manager. So, your ex wife just wrote an entire

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Speaker 2: album about how you cheated on her, and what's worse,

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Speaker 2: it slaps what I said.

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Speaker 3: It slaps.

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Speaker 4: There's a song on there called Pussy Palace. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: She re enacts phone calls, reads out loud, Instagram dms

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Speaker 4: It's all there.

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Speaker 1: Online.

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Speaker 2: Allan is being equally praised for calling out bad behavior

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Speaker 2: we're looking at celebrities, there's been a number of new

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Speaker 2: a Burke TV. Let's start with the Lily Allen record.

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Speaker 2: A big focal point for it is the implosion of

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Speaker 2: now ex husband David Harbor.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you never know what goes on behind closed

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Speaker 1: She really just didn't hold back.

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Speaker 5: She didn't and they've kind of said that this was

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Speaker 5: So you can just imagine how heightened you'd be, like

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Speaker 2: the lyrics of some of Lily Allen's record she just

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Reed and it.

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Speaker 1: Was full of all X y Z things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so she really.

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Speaker 2: Just left no stone unturned. One of those stones is Madeleine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, talk to me? Who is this? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Obviously the song's come out and everybody is wondering, like,

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Speaker 5: who is the real Madeleine? And it turns out that

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Speaker 5: she came forward herself. Her name is actually Natalie Tippett.

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Speaker 5: She's a costume design art she'd worked with David Harbor before,

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Speaker 5: And she came out and said, of course I've heard

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Speaker 5: she said she's got a family and things to protect,

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Speaker 5: and she understands this is happening, but it's a bit

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Speaker 5: scary for her to all be out there. But she

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Speaker 2: Now on the other side of this story, of course,

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Speaker 2: is David Harbor. He must be gearing up for some

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Speaker 2: pretty busy press to a stuff ahead. Obviously, the next

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Speaker 2: installment of Stranger Things is very close to being released.

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Speaker 2: Is this going to impact how he participates in the

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Speaker 2: press too, with those.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious to see, so, like the press tool starts

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Speaker 5: Like that's always a big thing, like which cast members

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Speaker 1: There's one thing to be labeled a cheetah.

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Speaker 2: There's another thing to have every minute detail of your

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Speaker 2: I want to move on from Lily Allen in a moment,

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of resurface clips of Zoe Kravitz

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Speaker 1: Wondering if Lily Allen warned you that she was going

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Speaker 2: If by kissing she means like attacking, then.

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Speaker 4: No, it was portrayed.

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Speaker 2: Well, as one marriage breakdown is now being played out

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Speaker 5: Everyone on the internet seems to hate this. I could

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Speaker 5: This is what you're supposed to do is do things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are both coming off. I guess on the

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Speaker 2: I want to know who do you think has the

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: From one unlikely couple to another, Chris Martin of cold Play,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves love.

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Speaker 2: He's been linked to a new love interest in one

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Speaker 5: This is very Hollywood to me.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love stupid stuff happening because you should be doing

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Speaker 1: This is very rare.

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Speaker 5: You don't often get to date like your celebrity crush,

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Speaker 5: his name is Peregrine Perry Pearson.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Perry. How could we forget Perry?

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Speaker 5: How could we forget Perry?

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Speaker 1: So Sophie's forgotten pay.

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Speaker 5: Sophie has At some point in September, they broke up,

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Speaker 2: Okay, not to like make this about the men in

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Speaker 2: of have to. She shares two children with Joe Jonahs.

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Speaker 2: Obviously when they split, that was very very public. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the kids were sort of the center of attention there.

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Speaker 5: But what's kind of strange about the situation is that

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Speaker 5: Joe wants, you know, how you can book like a

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Speaker 5: once he sealed his own fate, and like, there's this

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Speaker 1: Look at this, and she's like what is it.

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Speaker 5: She's like, oh my god, it's Chris Martin's Obviously everyone's

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Speaker 5: then now he's the guy she went on a date with.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to discovering more.

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Speaker 2: We've had breakups, we've had new romances. What about rekindling

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Speaker 2: of old flames? Meighan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly, who

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Speaker 1: Yes, they've been seen back together.

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Speaker 5: But together.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you share.

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Speaker 5: In this recent podcast, he said he was in rehab

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