1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,624 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,624 --> 00:00:29,424 Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 5 00:00:29,464 --> 00:00:30,144 Speaker 2: Brednick and. 6 00:00:30,064 --> 00:00:31,104 Speaker 1: I'm Cassenie Lukitch. 7 00:00:31,144 --> 00:00:33,824 Speaker 2: And coming up on the show today, Kevin Fenline is 8 00:00:33,904 --> 00:00:37,824 Speaker 2: just about trelease his highly anticipated new book, which is 9 00:00:37,864 --> 00:00:40,544 Speaker 2: about his life, but mostly it is a huge tell 10 00:00:40,584 --> 00:00:43,664 Speaker 2: all about his marriage to Britney Spears. So we're going 11 00:00:43,744 --> 00:00:45,624 Speaker 2: to go through the biggest bombsholls that have come out 12 00:00:45,664 --> 00:00:49,104 Speaker 2: so far, also Britney's response because she has shared some 13 00:00:49,304 --> 00:00:52,024 Speaker 2: very heated responses to what he said, and a lot 14 00:00:52,064 --> 00:00:54,624 Speaker 2: of their other family members have also become entangled in 15 00:00:54,664 --> 00:00:58,144 Speaker 2: the story, including Jamie Lynn Spears, her little sister. There's 16 00:00:58,144 --> 00:01:00,664 Speaker 2: some really intense stuff about her and the book, so 17 00:01:00,704 --> 00:01:03,504 Speaker 2: we're going to unpack all that. But first, something a 18 00:01:03,504 --> 00:01:04,144 Speaker 2: little bit lighter. 19 00:01:04,224 --> 00:01:08,344 Speaker 1: Forget a rom com dua Leaper's Fionce Callum Turner has 20 00:01:09,064 --> 00:01:13,184 Speaker 1: revealed the perfect me cute and it actually happened to him. 21 00:01:13,184 --> 00:01:15,704 Speaker 1: So in an interview with The Sunday Times, he revealed 22 00:01:15,744 --> 00:01:19,704 Speaker 1: how he and Dua Leaper met are you ready for this? 23 00:01:20,424 --> 00:01:23,344 Speaker 1: Strapping guys, because this is romantic as hell. So they 24 00:01:23,344 --> 00:01:26,064 Speaker 1: met at a mutual friend's birthday party in la and 25 00:01:26,104 --> 00:01:28,504 Speaker 1: they got to talking and then they realized that they 26 00:01:28,504 --> 00:01:32,464 Speaker 1: were reading the same book. So they were reading Trust 27 00:01:32,584 --> 00:01:36,304 Speaker 1: by Hernan Diaz, and Callum said, oh, I just finished 28 00:01:36,304 --> 00:01:39,184 Speaker 1: the first chapter, and do a Leaper responds with, oh 29 00:01:39,264 --> 00:01:41,864 Speaker 1: my god, I just finished the first chapter two and 30 00:01:41,904 --> 00:01:45,584 Speaker 1: he comes back with the suavest line, Oh, so we're 31 00:01:45,624 --> 00:01:47,624 Speaker 1: on the same page, mic Drop. 32 00:01:47,824 --> 00:01:49,544 Speaker 2: He did think it was very romantic because in this 33 00:01:49,624 --> 00:01:52,184 Speaker 2: Sunday Times article he said that it's like if you're 34 00:01:52,184 --> 00:01:53,664 Speaker 2: in a movie, it would be the moment where you 35 00:01:53,704 --> 00:01:55,944 Speaker 2: like look up to the heavens and say, oh my god, 36 00:01:55,984 --> 00:01:57,864 Speaker 2: I'm going to marry this woman, which is very cute 37 00:01:57,864 --> 00:01:59,264 Speaker 2: because they are now engaged. I know. 38 00:01:59,344 --> 00:02:01,864 Speaker 1: But the Internet went a little bit crazy about this. 39 00:02:01,944 --> 00:02:04,904 Speaker 1: Everyone was like, this is fan fiction, this is crazy. 40 00:02:05,304 --> 00:02:07,744 Speaker 1: It's more romantic than some of the meat cutes in 41 00:02:07,784 --> 00:02:09,984 Speaker 1: some of the best rom coms. I think. 42 00:02:10,424 --> 00:02:12,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, some people got a bit intense with it because 43 00:02:12,624 --> 00:02:14,424 Speaker 2: there was this idea they were going to a mutual 44 00:02:14,424 --> 00:02:16,384 Speaker 2: friend's event, so he knew she was going to be there. 45 00:02:16,424 --> 00:02:19,464 Speaker 2: And she also has like a recommendation's website and podcast 46 00:02:19,584 --> 00:02:22,224 Speaker 2: service ninety five because she was born in nineteen ninety 47 00:02:22,224 --> 00:02:23,984 Speaker 2: five and she believes she was put on this earth 48 00:02:24,024 --> 00:02:25,824 Speaker 2: to be of service. I feel like she'd probably got 49 00:02:25,824 --> 00:02:27,464 Speaker 2: too much going on, but she does love to do 50 00:02:27,464 --> 00:02:30,944 Speaker 2: book recommendations. So people were like, did he possibly find 51 00:02:30,984 --> 00:02:32,864 Speaker 2: out the book she was reading because she always posts 52 00:02:32,904 --> 00:02:34,904 Speaker 2: what she's reading, And did he try and like read 53 00:02:34,984 --> 00:02:36,744 Speaker 2: the same book so he'd have it in with her? 54 00:02:36,904 --> 00:02:38,944 Speaker 2: Which I would find very romantic, but I think it's 55 00:02:38,984 --> 00:02:40,704 Speaker 2: probably not that intense. 56 00:02:40,904 --> 00:02:43,264 Speaker 1: I don't think, so let's just leave it at the 57 00:02:43,384 --> 00:02:45,904 Speaker 1: really nice romantic one. So the book that they were reading. 58 00:02:45,944 --> 00:02:47,984 Speaker 1: I do want to like tell people about this book 59 00:02:47,984 --> 00:02:51,144 Speaker 1: that they were reading because maybe we can try and 60 00:02:51,224 --> 00:02:54,264 Speaker 1: recreate it for our listeners. So the book is called 61 00:02:54,264 --> 00:02:57,224 Speaker 1: Trust by Hernan Diaz and he's a Pulitzer Prize winning 62 00:02:57,264 --> 00:03:00,624 Speaker 1: author and the novel is about a financier in New 63 00:03:00,704 --> 00:03:03,784 Speaker 1: York during the stock market crash of the nineteen twenties, 64 00:03:03,904 --> 00:03:05,864 Speaker 1: but him and his wife. So this is kind of 65 00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:08,224 Speaker 1: I don't know how romantic that is, but if you 66 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:10,624 Speaker 1: want to recreate it, you can go read that book. Look. 67 00:03:10,864 --> 00:03:11,224 Speaker 2: Yeah. 68 00:03:11,624 --> 00:03:14,704 Speaker 1: Dou has also said in previous interviews that the two 69 00:03:14,744 --> 00:03:17,384 Speaker 1: of them have had a number of like sliding doors moments, 70 00:03:17,384 --> 00:03:20,224 Speaker 1: so it's not just this particular moment that is, you know, 71 00:03:20,504 --> 00:03:22,424 Speaker 1: very rom com esque of them. 72 00:03:22,984 --> 00:03:25,064 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think the reason he's sharing this story 73 00:03:25,104 --> 00:03:27,184 Speaker 2: now is that, like he's outdoing press for his new 74 00:03:27,224 --> 00:03:30,264 Speaker 2: movie Eternity, which is a rom com that is coming 75 00:03:30,304 --> 00:03:32,624 Speaker 2: out very soon, and he has been an actor for 76 00:03:32,664 --> 00:03:34,184 Speaker 2: a while. I'm sure people will be like, you know, 77 00:03:34,224 --> 00:03:36,584 Speaker 2: he's not just Duallifer's fiance, but for a while that 78 00:03:36,744 --> 00:03:39,664 Speaker 2: is all I and other people saw him as. But 79 00:03:39,744 --> 00:03:41,264 Speaker 2: he is coming out in this movie. They think it's 80 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:43,384 Speaker 2: going to be like a real star making turn for him. 81 00:03:43,744 --> 00:03:47,304 Speaker 2: So it's called Eternity, and it's co stars Elizabeth Olson 82 00:03:47,344 --> 00:03:50,784 Speaker 2: and Miles Teller and then Callum Turner and it's Elizabeth 83 00:03:50,824 --> 00:03:54,664 Speaker 2: Olson passes away and then she goes into like purgatory, 84 00:03:55,144 --> 00:03:57,904 Speaker 2: and then she gets to purgatory and her husband that 85 00:03:57,944 --> 00:04:00,144 Speaker 2: she was married to for decades is there, and so 86 00:04:00,224 --> 00:04:02,264 Speaker 2: the idea is that they can now choose to go 87 00:04:02,304 --> 00:04:05,704 Speaker 2: together into Eternity, which is all great and romantic, But 88 00:04:05,784 --> 00:04:08,184 Speaker 2: then her first husband shows up who she was just 89 00:04:08,264 --> 00:04:11,264 Speaker 2: married to, very very briefly before he was killed, and 90 00:04:11,344 --> 00:04:14,864 Speaker 2: he has been waiting decades in purgatory for her to 91 00:04:15,024 --> 00:04:17,824 Speaker 2: arrive so they can spend Attorney together. But she can 92 00:04:17,904 --> 00:04:19,584 Speaker 2: only go with one of them. So does she go 93 00:04:19,664 --> 00:04:21,824 Speaker 2: with her first love who she never got to have 94 00:04:21,824 --> 00:04:23,904 Speaker 2: a life with, or does she go with the man 95 00:04:23,944 --> 00:04:27,144 Speaker 2: she was married to for years? And the two men 96 00:04:27,184 --> 00:04:29,104 Speaker 2: are played by Callum Turner and Miles Teller. 97 00:04:29,384 --> 00:04:34,144 Speaker 1: You've passed away, Larry, Hello, I'm anna. I'm your afterlife coordinator. 98 00:04:34,744 --> 00:04:37,664 Speaker 1: And this is the junction where you choose one place 99 00:04:37,704 --> 00:04:39,864 Speaker 1: to spend eternity and who to spend it with? 100 00:04:40,584 --> 00:04:42,944 Speaker 2: John jo and that. 101 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:47,224 Speaker 1: Sharking news you did? Yeah? 102 00:04:47,264 --> 00:04:47,664 Speaker 2: Had you know? 103 00:04:47,904 --> 00:04:51,104 Speaker 1: It took him forever to figure that out. Excuse me. 104 00:04:51,264 --> 00:04:53,144 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for the school and goes for sixty seven, 105 00:04:53,184 --> 00:04:58,264 Speaker 1: god damn years. I never dreamed this, clearly exactly how 106 00:04:58,304 --> 00:04:58,864 Speaker 1: I dreamt you. 107 00:04:59,664 --> 00:05:05,424 Speaker 2: Oh, no, first housman, not in a war, John Uri, Honey. 108 00:05:06,024 --> 00:05:08,024 Speaker 2: The height for this movie is so so big. I've 109 00:05:08,024 --> 00:05:09,544 Speaker 2: got to say, out of all the movies, it's like 110 00:05:09,664 --> 00:05:11,704 Speaker 2: this and Wicked are the two movies and I'm excited 111 00:05:11,744 --> 00:05:12,384 Speaker 2: to see. 112 00:05:12,144 --> 00:05:16,224 Speaker 1: Okay, so This premise bothers me a little bit because purgatory, 113 00:05:16,864 --> 00:05:20,584 Speaker 1: if we're talking about like the history of Hell and 114 00:05:20,824 --> 00:05:24,264 Speaker 1: like purgatory, Purgatory is designed and was originally sort of 115 00:05:24,304 --> 00:05:27,664 Speaker 1: placed as a place for non believers to be put 116 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,424 Speaker 1: So if you don't believe in God, that you go 117 00:05:29,464 --> 00:05:34,304 Speaker 1: to purgatory. So the idea that someone's waiting there, I'm 118 00:05:34,304 --> 00:05:36,064 Speaker 1: confused why they're in purgatory. 119 00:05:36,144 --> 00:05:38,824 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's that the traditional kind 120 00:05:38,864 --> 00:05:41,544 Speaker 2: of like the way that Christianity has described purgatory. I 121 00:05:41,544 --> 00:05:43,944 Speaker 2: don't think it's that. It's more so that in this version, 122 00:05:43,944 --> 00:05:45,224 Speaker 2: it's kind of like the good place, how you go 123 00:05:45,264 --> 00:05:46,584 Speaker 2: in and have like your meeting and then you get 124 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:48,344 Speaker 2: a signed to where you're going. So it's like you 125 00:05:48,424 --> 00:05:50,704 Speaker 2: come there and then they tell you you've died, and they 126 00:05:50,744 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 2: give you a choice of where to go. And he's 127 00:05:52,744 --> 00:05:54,944 Speaker 2: been hanging out with her, and essentially the waiting room 128 00:05:55,224 --> 00:05:57,624 Speaker 2: were like the waiting room where you didn't decide where 129 00:05:57,624 --> 00:06:00,264 Speaker 2: you're going to go for eternity. Yes, so then it's 130 00:06:00,504 --> 00:06:02,824 Speaker 2: she has she goes on like dates with different each 131 00:06:02,864 --> 00:06:05,584 Speaker 2: one of them during their time and limbo to see 132 00:06:05,584 --> 00:06:07,584 Speaker 2: who she wants to spend the rest of her life with. 133 00:06:08,024 --> 00:06:11,944 Speaker 2: And the chemistry between Callum Turner, Elizabeth Olson, and Miles 134 00:06:11,984 --> 00:06:14,824 Speaker 2: Teller from this trailer is so good. Also, there's actual stakes, 135 00:06:14,904 --> 00:06:17,624 Speaker 2: like she can only pick one of them, send eternity 136 00:06:17,624 --> 00:06:18,064 Speaker 2: with Why. 137 00:06:17,984 --> 00:06:20,064 Speaker 1: Have they been waiting there for so long? I don't understand. 138 00:06:20,104 --> 00:06:22,704 Speaker 1: I'm confused. Is this movie is not doing it? Oh? 139 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:25,304 Speaker 2: Really, I think it's a pretty simple premise. I don't 140 00:06:25,304 --> 00:06:25,504 Speaker 2: know it. 141 00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:27,704 Speaker 1: This is something that bothers me about them just waiting 142 00:06:27,744 --> 00:06:29,544 Speaker 1: for her to be there and then Oh, I'm. 143 00:06:29,384 --> 00:06:30,784 Speaker 2: Sure you'll pick it up when you see the movie, 144 00:06:30,784 --> 00:06:34,144 Speaker 2: but it's it's more of a rom com than you know, 145 00:06:34,544 --> 00:06:37,184 Speaker 2: than anything else. But anyway, he's like Hollywood's nuw rom 146 00:06:37,184 --> 00:06:40,184 Speaker 2: com leading man. And I think he's really leaning into 147 00:06:40,224 --> 00:06:43,264 Speaker 2: this on the press tour, especially knowing that people love 148 00:06:43,384 --> 00:06:45,264 Speaker 2: him and do it together. So I'm sure he's got 149 00:06:45,304 --> 00:06:47,344 Speaker 2: all these cute stories that he's been like waiting to 150 00:06:47,384 --> 00:06:49,984 Speaker 2: wheel out on his press tour. And I think it's working. 151 00:06:49,984 --> 00:06:51,024 Speaker 2: People are obsessed with him. 152 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:54,544 Speaker 1: It's definitely working. People love him and they seem very 153 00:06:54,664 --> 00:06:57,544 Speaker 1: very cute together. And I'm very offended that you don't 154 00:06:57,624 --> 00:06:59,024 Speaker 1: like my purgatory. 155 00:06:59,264 --> 00:07:03,504 Speaker 2: We'll see when we see the movie. So Kevin Fedline, 156 00:07:03,624 --> 00:07:07,584 Speaker 2: former singer and backup dancer and reality TV stuff, but 157 00:07:07,744 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 2: now most well known for being Britney spear ex husband 158 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:13,744 Speaker 2: and the father of her children, is this week releasing 159 00:07:13,784 --> 00:07:16,224 Speaker 2: a tell Or book. So the book is called You 160 00:07:16,344 --> 00:07:19,144 Speaker 2: Thought You Knew, And when he was talking about it, 161 00:07:19,184 --> 00:07:21,344 Speaker 2: he was saying that it sort of charts his life 162 00:07:21,424 --> 00:07:24,304 Speaker 2: from his teenage years and like his early life to 163 00:07:24,424 --> 00:07:26,824 Speaker 2: him sort of breaking into the entertainment industry and things 164 00:07:26,824 --> 00:07:29,864 Speaker 2: he experienced. But a lot of the book is dedicated 165 00:07:29,944 --> 00:07:34,944 Speaker 2: to his relationship with Britney Spears, particularly the fallout after 166 00:07:34,984 --> 00:07:38,384 Speaker 2: her mental health breakdown when she was placed under a conservatorship, 167 00:07:38,784 --> 00:07:42,944 Speaker 2: and his marriage to his wife now Victoria Prince, and 168 00:07:43,024 --> 00:07:46,584 Speaker 2: his raising his children and being a father. And so 169 00:07:46,984 --> 00:07:48,944 Speaker 2: he did a lot of press leading up to the 170 00:07:48,944 --> 00:07:51,544 Speaker 2: book coming out, and there has been like a lot 171 00:07:51,544 --> 00:07:53,344 Speaker 2: of chart around like why he's doing it and the 172 00:07:53,344 --> 00:07:56,304 Speaker 2: bombshells that are coming out, But he keeps saying it's 173 00:07:56,304 --> 00:07:58,384 Speaker 2: about him telling his side of the story because for 174 00:07:58,464 --> 00:08:01,144 Speaker 2: so long he was known only as Britney Spears husband. 175 00:08:01,584 --> 00:08:04,744 Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to assume that this is the 176 00:08:04,744 --> 00:08:07,944 Speaker 1: first time, he's being able to tell his story, unlike Britney, 177 00:08:07,984 --> 00:08:11,104 Speaker 1: who has been, you know, muzzled for so many years. 178 00:08:11,584 --> 00:08:15,024 Speaker 1: That to me feels like not a very valid reason. 179 00:08:15,744 --> 00:08:17,144 Speaker 1: I want to kind of go a little bit back 180 00:08:17,184 --> 00:08:19,104 Speaker 1: on their relationship history because I just want to let 181 00:08:19,144 --> 00:08:22,264 Speaker 1: refresh people's minds on who Kevin is, because I've got 182 00:08:22,304 --> 00:08:25,864 Speaker 1: some thoughts about him. So, Kevin and Brittany met in 183 00:08:26,024 --> 00:08:28,224 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and then they got married three 184 00:08:28,224 --> 00:08:30,864 Speaker 1: months later. Now a lot of people may not remember, 185 00:08:30,944 --> 00:08:33,704 Speaker 1: but Kevin was actually in a relationship with shar Jackson, 186 00:08:34,344 --> 00:08:37,824 Speaker 1: who he has two kids with. Shah was pregnant with 187 00:08:38,264 --> 00:08:42,904 Speaker 1: their second child when Kevin met Brittany, and he left 188 00:08:43,184 --> 00:08:47,344 Speaker 1: Shah for Brittany. They were together for three months, then 189 00:08:47,384 --> 00:08:50,344 Speaker 1: they got married. Then Brittany has Sean Preston in two 190 00:08:50,344 --> 00:08:53,544 Speaker 1: thousand and five and Jayden James in September two thousand 191 00:08:53,584 --> 00:08:55,824 Speaker 1: and six. Brittany files for divorced in two thousand and 192 00:08:55,824 --> 00:08:58,144 Speaker 1: six as well, and then we get the kind of 193 00:08:58,184 --> 00:09:03,984 Speaker 1: famous two thousand and seven breakdown, mental health deterioration of 194 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:08,384 Speaker 1: Britney Spears, and then she's placed under the conservatorship. So 195 00:09:08,744 --> 00:09:11,424 Speaker 1: my feelings on this are the You know, Kevin has 196 00:09:11,464 --> 00:09:15,224 Speaker 1: had a number of chances to speak out on his 197 00:09:15,344 --> 00:09:20,264 Speaker 1: relationship with Brittany, but he's doing it now, and there 198 00:09:20,264 --> 00:09:25,664 Speaker 1: are some definitely very big allegations that he's made about her. 199 00:09:26,144 --> 00:09:28,984 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's kind of interesting looking back on that now, 200 00:09:29,024 --> 00:09:31,424 Speaker 2: because I do have this memory of when Kevin and 201 00:09:31,464 --> 00:09:34,864 Speaker 2: Brittany first got together, and again, she was already such 202 00:09:34,944 --> 00:09:38,224 Speaker 2: a tabloid sensation, but a lot obviously from her music, 203 00:09:38,264 --> 00:09:40,704 Speaker 2: but from her relationship with Justin Timberlake, and when she 204 00:09:40,944 --> 00:09:43,904 Speaker 2: first walked on a red carpet with Kevin Fedline and 205 00:09:43,944 --> 00:09:46,024 Speaker 2: they were like hugging and kissing, and there's all those 206 00:09:46,064 --> 00:09:47,784 Speaker 2: ones of like where she's holding the tiny dog and 207 00:09:47,824 --> 00:09:50,224 Speaker 2: they're doing the red carpet walks, and people were like, 208 00:09:50,264 --> 00:09:52,944 Speaker 2: who is this man? And surely it's not serious, Like 209 00:09:53,264 --> 00:09:55,184 Speaker 2: she's just pulled this man out of like a lineup 210 00:09:55,224 --> 00:09:58,024 Speaker 2: of dancers to kind of make Justin jealous. And then 211 00:09:58,144 --> 00:10:00,824 Speaker 2: when they got married so quickly, that also made a 212 00:10:00,904 --> 00:10:03,104 Speaker 2: huge amount of headlines. And one of the allegations that 213 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:05,144 Speaker 2: have come out in the book that Kevin Fedline says 214 00:10:05,184 --> 00:10:07,104 Speaker 2: is that like on the day of their wedding, she 215 00:10:07,224 --> 00:10:10,624 Speaker 2: called Justin Timberlake for hours, and he's like, now, I 216 00:10:10,624 --> 00:10:12,224 Speaker 2: should have seen that as a red flag that she 217 00:10:12,304 --> 00:10:13,904 Speaker 2: wasn't over him, But at the time I thought they 218 00:10:13,944 --> 00:10:16,184 Speaker 2: just had unfinished business. So like he's kind of already 219 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:19,344 Speaker 2: dropping those like bombshells about their life, even from their 220 00:10:19,344 --> 00:10:19,864 Speaker 2: wedding day. 221 00:10:20,064 --> 00:10:22,384 Speaker 1: So he was a backup dancer and like I Love You, 222 00:10:22,464 --> 00:10:25,664 Speaker 1: which is the justin Timberlake music video, so they knew 223 00:10:25,704 --> 00:10:26,744 Speaker 1: they would have known each other. 224 00:10:26,784 --> 00:10:28,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all in the same circles. 225 00:10:28,544 --> 00:10:31,904 Speaker 1: That's interesting that he flags that as a moment in 226 00:10:31,944 --> 00:10:34,904 Speaker 1: their relationship. It's almost putting all the owners back on her. 227 00:10:35,624 --> 00:10:37,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and also I should say that we 228 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,624 Speaker 2: haven't in the book is not Australia in the time 229 00:10:39,664 --> 00:10:41,504 Speaker 2: of recording, but there's a lot of experts out there, 230 00:10:41,504 --> 00:10:43,704 Speaker 2: and he's been doing a really huge press run, so 231 00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:45,824 Speaker 2: all the information we have is coming from that. But 232 00:10:45,864 --> 00:10:48,584 Speaker 2: what I've sort of pieced together from the excerts that 233 00:10:48,624 --> 00:10:50,784 Speaker 2: he's put out, the stories that he's been telling is 234 00:10:50,784 --> 00:10:53,784 Speaker 2: that he's really framing himself as like this kind of 235 00:10:53,824 --> 00:10:56,584 Speaker 2: like good guy that just got really wrapped up in 236 00:10:56,624 --> 00:10:58,584 Speaker 2: this situation with a woman he said he was in 237 00:10:58,624 --> 00:11:00,264 Speaker 2: love with and wanted to start a family with and 238 00:11:00,304 --> 00:11:02,784 Speaker 2: then he just got swept away in like the fame 239 00:11:02,824 --> 00:11:05,544 Speaker 2: and her mental health and the people around her, and 240 00:11:05,584 --> 00:11:07,944 Speaker 2: that's why he ended up taking all of his children 241 00:11:08,024 --> 00:11:10,184 Speaker 2: to Hawaii. So he has this children with Shah Jackson, 242 00:11:10,184 --> 00:11:12,584 Speaker 2: who I believe they still live with her, but he 243 00:11:12,744 --> 00:11:15,064 Speaker 2: like has custody of them. He also then had full 244 00:11:15,064 --> 00:11:17,584 Speaker 2: time custody of his two sons with Britney Spears, and 245 00:11:17,624 --> 00:11:20,384 Speaker 2: then he and his new wife, Victoria Prince, also had children. 246 00:11:20,504 --> 00:11:22,344 Speaker 1: So six kids, three women. 247 00:11:22,184 --> 00:11:24,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and so he's kind of always been like, 248 00:11:24,624 --> 00:11:26,544 Speaker 2: I'm the dad. But the part of that that he 249 00:11:26,584 --> 00:11:28,744 Speaker 2: hasn't mentioned as much is that Britney Spears was bank 250 00:11:28,744 --> 00:11:32,544 Speaker 2: crawling that entire family. So she was paying obviously child 251 00:11:32,624 --> 00:11:37,104 Speaker 2: support for the two sons and also paying Kevin like alimony, 252 00:11:37,224 --> 00:11:39,944 Speaker 2: and that was supporting him and his new wife Victoria. 253 00:11:40,024 --> 00:11:42,184 Speaker 2: But obviously the kids are over eighteen now, so the 254 00:11:42,224 --> 00:11:45,384 Speaker 2: payments have stopped. And that's been the allegation that he's 255 00:11:45,424 --> 00:11:48,744 Speaker 2: putting this book out now because the checks have stopped coming, 256 00:11:48,784 --> 00:11:51,184 Speaker 2: which he's denied. He's like, the only reason I'm saying 257 00:11:51,224 --> 00:11:53,344 Speaker 2: this now is that I want my story out there. 258 00:11:53,384 --> 00:11:55,384 Speaker 2: And I'm really worried for Britney Spears. 259 00:11:55,704 --> 00:11:58,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard reports of twenty thousand dollars a month. 260 00:11:58,264 --> 00:11:59,744 Speaker 1: Is that what you've seen as well? 261 00:11:59,784 --> 00:12:01,344 Speaker 2: And that was always the amount that was sort of 262 00:12:01,344 --> 00:12:03,704 Speaker 2: put out there from the court docks that were made available. 263 00:12:03,944 --> 00:12:05,904 Speaker 1: He has said in other interviews that he's like, I 264 00:12:05,984 --> 00:12:07,744 Speaker 1: don't really need it. I made, you know, millions in 265 00:12:07,744 --> 00:12:09,824 Speaker 1: this super Bowl commercial that I did. I'm not doing 266 00:12:09,824 --> 00:12:12,184 Speaker 1: this for them for me. I don't really believe that. 267 00:12:12,184 --> 00:12:16,464 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem authentic to meet personally. One of the 268 00:12:16,504 --> 00:12:20,584 Speaker 1: other allegations he makes, which I found quite shocking, he 269 00:12:20,624 --> 00:12:23,944 Speaker 1: alleged that Brittany was taking drugs while she was breastfeeding. 270 00:12:24,664 --> 00:12:26,464 Speaker 1: So he said that he walked into the dressing room 271 00:12:26,544 --> 00:12:29,544 Speaker 1: at this album release party in two thousand and six, 272 00:12:29,864 --> 00:12:33,864 Speaker 1: and I'm going to quote here found quote Brittany and 273 00:12:33,904 --> 00:12:36,224 Speaker 1: a young starlet friend snorting a fat line of coke 274 00:12:36,384 --> 00:12:38,624 Speaker 1: off the table. They didn't even try to hide it. 275 00:12:39,064 --> 00:12:41,624 Speaker 1: Then he goes on to say, please don't go home 276 00:12:41,664 --> 00:12:44,584 Speaker 1: and breastfeed the kids like this. Call your mum or someone. 277 00:12:44,664 --> 00:12:46,464 Speaker 1: We need to get the formula. You can't do this. 278 00:12:47,224 --> 00:12:50,464 Speaker 1: That was the proverbial final straw, the breastfeeding thing, her reaction, 279 00:12:50,744 --> 00:12:54,584 Speaker 1: that's what ended us and for me, the way that 280 00:12:54,664 --> 00:12:57,984 Speaker 1: this is framed is you know, putting him as the 281 00:12:58,104 --> 00:13:01,424 Speaker 1: nice guy and the good guy. He's the hero in 282 00:13:01,464 --> 00:13:04,904 Speaker 1: this and that is how I he's framing himself. 283 00:13:05,064 --> 00:13:06,824 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of stories, and like all the 284 00:13:06,824 --> 00:13:08,504 Speaker 2: big ones, like the excerpt that read in the New 285 00:13:08,544 --> 00:13:11,024 Speaker 2: York Times and the other chapters that been put out. 286 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:14,184 Speaker 2: At all stories that he's telling, but he's always recounting 287 00:13:14,224 --> 00:13:16,424 Speaker 2: them through the eyes of his sons when they were 288 00:13:16,544 --> 00:13:18,504 Speaker 2: very young and saying like, either this happened to them 289 00:13:18,504 --> 00:13:21,024 Speaker 2: as babies, or this is something that they say that 290 00:13:21,064 --> 00:13:23,064 Speaker 2: their mum did. Because he also said that he and 291 00:13:23,104 --> 00:13:26,144 Speaker 2: Britney haven't spoken in like over a decade, and that 292 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:30,384 Speaker 2: they only communicated through their legal teams before that, and 293 00:13:30,384 --> 00:13:32,944 Speaker 2: that she doesn't have a lot of contact with the kids. 294 00:13:32,944 --> 00:13:34,704 Speaker 2: So these are all stories that he's saying that the 295 00:13:34,784 --> 00:13:37,544 Speaker 2: kids told him that he's written to this book. There's 296 00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:39,904 Speaker 2: one chapter where he says that they didn't want to 297 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:43,064 Speaker 2: go back to Britney Spears house for their scheduled visit, 298 00:13:43,464 --> 00:13:45,424 Speaker 2: and they started telling their dad that they were too 299 00:13:45,464 --> 00:13:48,064 Speaker 2: scared to be around her, and he said my son 300 00:13:48,144 --> 00:13:50,944 Speaker 2: said they would awaken sometimes at night to find Britney 301 00:13:51,024 --> 00:13:55,024 Speaker 2: standing silently in the doorway watching them sleep. Oh you're awake, 302 00:13:55,224 --> 00:13:57,384 Speaker 2: she'd say, with a knife in her hand, and then 303 00:13:57,424 --> 00:14:00,904 Speaker 2: she'd turn around and pad off without explanation. He also 304 00:14:00,944 --> 00:14:02,784 Speaker 2: says that the kids would say to him, Dad, I 305 00:14:02,784 --> 00:14:04,424 Speaker 2: don't want to have a bath with mum. She makes 306 00:14:04,424 --> 00:14:06,384 Speaker 2: me bath with me. I'm uncomfortable. When they were ten 307 00:14:06,464 --> 00:14:09,424 Speaker 2: years old. He'd also say that she was being very emotional, 308 00:14:09,504 --> 00:14:12,904 Speaker 2: that she was potentially taking substances, and also say that 309 00:14:12,944 --> 00:14:15,104 Speaker 2: things like the house were a mess, and basically he's 310 00:14:15,144 --> 00:14:18,304 Speaker 2: like recounting everything. He says his sons have said to 311 00:14:18,384 --> 00:14:21,864 Speaker 2: him to kind of put off having their scheduled visitation 312 00:14:21,984 --> 00:14:22,264 Speaker 2: with her. 313 00:14:22,744 --> 00:14:26,104 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that Brittany was having some really severe 314 00:14:26,184 --> 00:14:28,544 Speaker 1: mental health struggles during this time. I don't doubt that. 315 00:14:29,264 --> 00:14:31,504 Speaker 1: I think what I have an issue with is the 316 00:14:32,064 --> 00:14:36,224 Speaker 1: profiting of her problems and what was a very very 317 00:14:36,304 --> 00:14:39,064 Speaker 1: challenging time. And you know, we look back at that 318 00:14:39,144 --> 00:14:41,224 Speaker 1: time and there's been a lot of reflection on the 319 00:14:41,264 --> 00:14:44,864 Speaker 1: way that media reported this particular breakdown of Brittany, and 320 00:14:45,344 --> 00:14:47,984 Speaker 1: that media went too far. They made it worse, you know, 321 00:14:48,024 --> 00:14:50,544 Speaker 1: the shaving over her head. Brittany's crazy. It was all 322 00:14:50,584 --> 00:14:53,544 Speaker 1: of this discourse around her being insane and crazy, and 323 00:14:53,984 --> 00:14:56,304 Speaker 1: that was all anyone was talking about. I don't doubt 324 00:14:56,384 --> 00:14:59,024 Speaker 1: she had problems. She's clearly got some mental health issues. 325 00:14:59,224 --> 00:15:02,464 Speaker 1: There are problems in her life. The way that he's 326 00:15:02,504 --> 00:15:05,904 Speaker 1: talking about this though, he's now utilizing the stories of 327 00:15:05,944 --> 00:15:09,984 Speaker 1: his children to potentially like damage a relationship further between 328 00:15:10,424 --> 00:15:11,224 Speaker 1: them and their mother. 329 00:15:11,704 --> 00:15:13,504 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder one of the reasons that he's 330 00:15:13,584 --> 00:15:15,504 Speaker 2: leaning into this a bit is that there was a 331 00:15:15,544 --> 00:15:19,104 Speaker 2: really good period of time where he was seen as 332 00:15:19,184 --> 00:15:22,384 Speaker 2: like a bit of a hero and a father by people. 333 00:15:22,824 --> 00:15:25,304 Speaker 2: Now people are sort of looking at him with questioning eyes. 334 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:27,344 Speaker 2: I think it was Nicki Minaj who tweeted the other day, 335 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:29,864 Speaker 2: like she subtweeted Brittany and she's like Kevin Federline when 336 00:15:29,904 --> 00:15:32,144 Speaker 2: I find you kind of thing, Like now everyone's like, 337 00:15:32,184 --> 00:15:34,344 Speaker 2: he's just profiting off his wife. But there was a 338 00:15:34,384 --> 00:15:38,024 Speaker 2: time then where you'd see photos of Brittany walking through 339 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:41,904 Speaker 2: the streets looking very distressed, like falling down on stage, 340 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:44,424 Speaker 2: not being able to like talk in interviews. And then 341 00:15:44,464 --> 00:15:47,184 Speaker 2: you'd see these photos of Kevin Fedlin like walking quietly 342 00:15:47,224 --> 00:15:50,144 Speaker 2: through the streets holding the children, him saying he didn't 343 00:15:50,144 --> 00:15:52,104 Speaker 2: want to do interviews. This idea that like he took 344 00:15:52,144 --> 00:15:54,384 Speaker 2: his children away and they lived this quiet little life 345 00:15:54,384 --> 00:15:56,544 Speaker 2: together for a long time. That was really the story. 346 00:15:56,584 --> 00:15:58,544 Speaker 2: And I think there was a lot of love from 347 00:15:58,624 --> 00:16:00,824 Speaker 2: fans on his side. So I wonder if he thought 348 00:16:00,824 --> 00:16:03,464 Speaker 2: if he came out with this book now, even though 349 00:16:03,504 --> 00:16:05,904 Speaker 2: after the whole Free Brittany movement, it does seem like 350 00:16:05,944 --> 00:16:08,224 Speaker 2: the wrong move if he kind of thought like, this 351 00:16:08,384 --> 00:16:10,504 Speaker 2: is my moment. And he's been asking to a few 352 00:16:10,504 --> 00:16:13,424 Speaker 2: different interviews, one about like the alimony payments, and he's saying, yes, 353 00:16:13,464 --> 00:16:15,464 Speaker 2: I don't need the money. But the other reason he's 354 00:16:15,464 --> 00:16:17,344 Speaker 2: saying that he chose to put the book out now 355 00:16:17,464 --> 00:16:20,824 Speaker 2: with his son's blessing is that he said that he 356 00:16:21,144 --> 00:16:24,184 Speaker 2: thinks the situation with Britney Spears has escalated to such 357 00:16:24,224 --> 00:16:26,624 Speaker 2: a bad point that he had to ring the alarm 358 00:16:26,984 --> 00:16:29,384 Speaker 2: because he's like, I just don't want my children to 359 00:16:29,424 --> 00:16:31,464 Speaker 2: have to go through the unimaginal. So it's kind of 360 00:16:31,464 --> 00:16:33,344 Speaker 2: alluding to the fact that if someone doesn't step in 361 00:16:33,384 --> 00:16:36,504 Speaker 2: with Britney Spears, then something terrible could happen to her. 362 00:16:36,784 --> 00:16:39,624 Speaker 1: M I think it's that actually his intention, then he 363 00:16:39,664 --> 00:16:42,664 Speaker 1: wouldn't be blasting it all over the world. Yeah. 364 00:16:42,744 --> 00:16:44,984 Speaker 2: I feel like if you were truly worried about someone's 365 00:16:45,024 --> 00:16:47,224 Speaker 2: mental health and wellbeing, and you know that that person 366 00:16:47,744 --> 00:16:50,704 Speaker 2: had in the past had in their own words, had 367 00:16:50,704 --> 00:16:54,944 Speaker 2: a very negative, bad mental health reaction to stories about 368 00:16:54,944 --> 00:16:58,304 Speaker 2: them being the press people invading their personal life, then 369 00:16:58,544 --> 00:17:00,504 Speaker 2: writing a book about them wouldn't be the way to 370 00:17:00,544 --> 00:17:02,264 Speaker 2: get them help. So I don't think it's that at all. 371 00:17:02,464 --> 00:17:04,104 Speaker 2: I probably have more respect for him if he'said have 372 00:17:04,144 --> 00:17:07,344 Speaker 2: just wanted the money, because at least that's like, that's 373 00:17:07,384 --> 00:17:08,224 Speaker 2: just a transaction. 374 00:17:08,424 --> 00:17:10,624 Speaker 1: You also said they haven't spoken, So what are you 375 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:13,624 Speaker 1: sounding the alarm for. I've spoken to her in years? 376 00:17:13,864 --> 00:17:16,104 Speaker 1: How do you know what she's doing? All you're saying 377 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:18,264 Speaker 1: is the social media, the same way that all of 378 00:17:18,344 --> 00:17:18,944 Speaker 1: us are saying. 379 00:17:19,264 --> 00:17:20,744 Speaker 2: I think he kind of picked his moment, and his 380 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:23,024 Speaker 2: publishers picked his moment because there was a time right 381 00:17:23,104 --> 00:17:26,384 Speaker 2: after the conservatorship had ended for Britney Spears and she 382 00:17:26,504 --> 00:17:29,624 Speaker 2: married sam A's Gary, and there was this idea that, oh, 383 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:31,624 Speaker 2: now she gets to be the old Brittany, and now 384 00:17:31,624 --> 00:17:34,744 Speaker 2: she's had this fairytale wedding and she's free, and everyone 385 00:17:34,784 --> 00:17:36,984 Speaker 2: expected her to go back to being the pop star 386 00:17:37,024 --> 00:17:39,464 Speaker 2: that she once was, and I think he probably knew 387 00:17:39,464 --> 00:17:41,744 Speaker 2: that was the wrong time because everyone was team Britney. 388 00:17:42,064 --> 00:17:45,424 Speaker 2: But over time, now like she's posting videos where she 389 00:17:45,424 --> 00:17:48,424 Speaker 2: seems quite erratic. There's been all these reports that like 390 00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:52,104 Speaker 2: she's being investigated because she's living in filth and disarray. 391 00:17:52,664 --> 00:17:55,584 Speaker 2: Her marriage to Sam Mascary broke up and now he's 392 00:17:55,584 --> 00:17:57,664 Speaker 2: gone off to be like an actor. It's interesting because 393 00:17:57,704 --> 00:18:01,464 Speaker 2: when Kevin Fedline was asked in his interviews about Sam, 394 00:18:01,504 --> 00:18:03,024 Speaker 2: he was like, I don't know what kind of a 395 00:18:03,064 --> 00:18:05,184 Speaker 2: man would ever marry a woman in that state, like 396 00:18:05,424 --> 00:18:08,944 Speaker 2: he took advantage of her, And then Sam Mascaro replied 397 00:18:08,944 --> 00:18:11,744 Speaker 2: to him through another interview He's like, well, he's a 398 00:18:11,744 --> 00:18:13,984 Speaker 2: professional dad that's really knows how to do. So once 399 00:18:14,024 --> 00:18:16,104 Speaker 2: that money train drives up, like you should probably ask 400 00:18:16,144 --> 00:18:17,944 Speaker 2: him what he's going to do, basically saying that he's 401 00:18:17,984 --> 00:18:19,984 Speaker 2: doing it for the money. So even these two men 402 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:22,624 Speaker 2: are kind of like they're having their infighting, which is 403 00:18:22,664 --> 00:18:24,864 Speaker 2: causing more headlines against Britney spears. 404 00:18:26,784 --> 00:18:30,384 Speaker 1: I do want to be very careful about analyzing someone's 405 00:18:30,464 --> 00:18:32,904 Speaker 1: mental health because I think it's more complicated than any 406 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:35,984 Speaker 1: of us are going to be able to understand. All 407 00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:38,264 Speaker 1: we see is what she puts on social media, and 408 00:18:38,304 --> 00:18:40,784 Speaker 1: I think from the outside, yes, it looks concerning. I mean, 409 00:18:40,824 --> 00:18:43,144 Speaker 1: I would say that I feel concerned from some of 410 00:18:43,184 --> 00:18:45,864 Speaker 1: the things that I see, But it's really hard to 411 00:18:45,904 --> 00:18:49,264 Speaker 1: know what's actually going on with her mental health without 412 00:18:49,304 --> 00:18:50,424 Speaker 1: actually being with her. 413 00:18:50,544 --> 00:18:52,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just don't even know if there's anyone 414 00:18:52,984 --> 00:18:55,024 Speaker 2: that's all we're getting from this. It's like her ex 415 00:18:55,104 --> 00:18:57,784 Speaker 2: husband and with the blessing of her sons, as far 416 00:18:57,824 --> 00:19:00,024 Speaker 2: as we can see, have put out this tell or 417 00:19:00,144 --> 00:19:02,904 Speaker 2: memoir that is like literally dragging her name from Lamard 418 00:19:02,944 --> 00:19:05,424 Speaker 2: and is profiting off her. Her ex husband only ever 419 00:19:05,464 --> 00:19:08,064 Speaker 2: says lovely things about her, but at the same time 420 00:19:08,184 --> 00:19:11,024 Speaker 2: still lived off her for many many years. And even 421 00:19:11,064 --> 00:19:13,744 Speaker 2: though he says he's not getting his reality TV roles 422 00:19:13,784 --> 00:19:16,144 Speaker 2: off her name, I kind of do think he mostly is, 423 00:19:16,184 --> 00:19:17,664 Speaker 2: Like I don't know if he'd be pulled onto all 424 00:19:17,664 --> 00:19:20,224 Speaker 2: these shows and things if people weren't like, oh, but 425 00:19:20,264 --> 00:19:21,744 Speaker 2: he was married to Britney Spears, and we want to 426 00:19:21,784 --> 00:19:24,544 Speaker 2: hear his story. All her celebrity friends that were like 427 00:19:24,624 --> 00:19:27,464 Speaker 2: there for her wedding. I'm sure like Paris Hilton or 428 00:19:27,584 --> 00:19:30,104 Speaker 2: Drew Barry Morrislena Gometz would never met her before her wedding. 429 00:19:30,144 --> 00:19:31,664 Speaker 2: I'm sure they all care about her, but I don't 430 00:19:31,664 --> 00:19:33,984 Speaker 2: think that they're seeing her all the time. So it's 431 00:19:33,984 --> 00:19:35,984 Speaker 2: like she's a strange from her mum. She's a strange 432 00:19:35,984 --> 00:19:39,984 Speaker 2: from my father. She's strange from her brother and everyone else. 433 00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:42,704 Speaker 2: She's cut off all her former manager than team because 434 00:19:42,704 --> 00:19:44,784 Speaker 2: they were all making money off her. It's like, I 435 00:19:44,824 --> 00:19:47,384 Speaker 2: just don't think this woman has anyone around her. And 436 00:19:47,424 --> 00:19:49,264 Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting when you think about, like how 437 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:51,904 Speaker 2: the Free Britney movement led to that, because there's been 438 00:19:51,944 --> 00:19:54,384 Speaker 2: some chapters come out from Kevin's book where he talks 439 00:19:54,384 --> 00:19:56,144 Speaker 2: about it and he kind of slams it as a 440 00:19:56,184 --> 00:19:59,264 Speaker 2: really dangerous thing. So in the book, this chapter that's 441 00:19:59,264 --> 00:20:01,744 Speaker 2: been released, he talks about the first time that Britney 442 00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:04,824 Speaker 2: was placed in an involuntary hold in a psychiatric unit, 443 00:20:05,224 --> 00:20:07,144 Speaker 2: and he's like, it was one of the hardest nights 444 00:20:07,184 --> 00:20:09,624 Speaker 2: of my life. I felt sick over what she was 445 00:20:09,664 --> 00:20:11,784 Speaker 2: going through. This was someone I had loved, someone I 446 00:20:11,824 --> 00:20:14,304 Speaker 2: had built a life with the mother of my children, 447 00:20:14,904 --> 00:20:17,744 Speaker 2: and when the Conservatives ship was placed on her, and 448 00:20:17,744 --> 00:20:20,224 Speaker 2: then the Free Britney movement started, which was the whole 449 00:20:20,224 --> 00:20:22,944 Speaker 2: thing that started that conversation about the Conservative ship ending. 450 00:20:23,544 --> 00:20:25,944 Speaker 2: He said, I think the Free Britney movement started from 451 00:20:25,984 --> 00:20:29,144 Speaker 2: a really good place. But all those people who put 452 00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:31,464 Speaker 2: so much effort into that, they should now put the 453 00:20:31,504 --> 00:20:34,464 Speaker 2: same energy into the Save Britney movement because this is 454 00:20:34,504 --> 00:20:36,664 Speaker 2: no longer about freedom, it's about survival. 455 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,824 Speaker 1: She was in that conservativeship for thirteen years. Ye, it's 456 00:20:40,824 --> 00:20:44,904 Speaker 1: an incredibly long time. The way that I see it 457 00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:48,064 Speaker 1: is him trying to be the good guy again. But 458 00:20:48,184 --> 00:20:50,624 Speaker 1: for me, that is he's not involved with her day 459 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:54,064 Speaker 1: to day life. You were trying to portray yourself as 460 00:20:54,104 --> 00:20:57,664 Speaker 1: this wonderful man by saying, you know, you've got to 461 00:20:57,704 --> 00:20:59,824 Speaker 1: make sure that you're on Britney side and save her, 462 00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:01,864 Speaker 1: and you know I didn't want to see her in 463 00:21:01,864 --> 00:21:04,904 Speaker 1: a Conservative ship. Well, quite frankly, you're not supporting her 464 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:07,744 Speaker 1: in a way that someone who actually cared about her would, 465 00:21:08,864 --> 00:21:10,944 Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm being quite critical, but I 466 00:21:10,984 --> 00:21:14,304 Speaker 1: find it really really poor timing. First of all, both 467 00:21:14,304 --> 00:21:17,304 Speaker 1: the kids have just turned eighteen. Yeah, exactly, we can't 468 00:21:17,304 --> 00:21:20,064 Speaker 1: ignore that. And secondly, he's, you know, just trying to 469 00:21:20,064 --> 00:21:22,744 Speaker 1: make money off her, like everybody around her has for 470 00:21:22,784 --> 00:21:27,304 Speaker 1: their you know, her entire life. She has responded to this. 471 00:21:27,464 --> 00:21:29,864 Speaker 2: So she has put out two different responsors, at least 472 00:21:29,864 --> 00:21:32,104 Speaker 2: to the like, she always talks a lot about her 473 00:21:32,344 --> 00:21:34,464 Speaker 2: children and the way people around her are treating her. 474 00:21:34,504 --> 00:21:37,064 Speaker 2: But when the news broke about Kevin's book and the 475 00:21:37,144 --> 00:21:39,664 Speaker 2: first lot of extracts went out into the world and 476 00:21:39,704 --> 00:21:42,384 Speaker 2: that story about her holding the knife came out, she 477 00:21:42,504 --> 00:21:45,224 Speaker 2: responded through a rep who sent this statement to some 478 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:47,504 Speaker 2: of the news outlets who are running the story, and 479 00:21:47,544 --> 00:21:50,904 Speaker 2: it said, with news from Kevin's book breaking, once again, 480 00:21:51,024 --> 00:21:53,944 Speaker 2: he and the others are profiting off her, and sadly 481 00:21:53,984 --> 00:21:57,064 Speaker 2: it comes after child support has ended with Kevin. So 482 00:21:57,144 --> 00:22:00,824 Speaker 2: she's flat out saying through her through her representative, that 483 00:22:01,024 --> 00:22:03,544 Speaker 2: she knows exactly why he's doing this. So she went 484 00:22:03,584 --> 00:22:05,944 Speaker 2: on to say in that same statement, all she cares 485 00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:08,664 Speaker 2: about her kids Sean, Preston and Jane and James, and 486 00:22:08,664 --> 00:22:12,344 Speaker 2: they're well being during this and sacialism. She has detailed 487 00:22:12,344 --> 00:22:14,664 Speaker 2: her story in her own memoir, The Woman in Me. 488 00:22:15,264 --> 00:22:18,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, she actually mentions in her Instagram post too, that 489 00:22:18,144 --> 00:22:21,104 Speaker 1: she believes that Kevin's memoir is going to be selling 490 00:22:21,144 --> 00:22:24,144 Speaker 1: more copies than hers ever did. Yeah, I mean it 491 00:22:24,264 --> 00:22:26,864 Speaker 1: was an interesting comparison. Actually, I'm not sure if I 492 00:22:27,024 --> 00:22:27,544 Speaker 1: buy that either. 493 00:22:27,904 --> 00:22:29,384 Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't think it all sell the same 494 00:22:29,384 --> 00:22:31,824 Speaker 2: amount of copies. Like that was explosive when that Brittany 495 00:22:31,864 --> 00:22:33,944 Speaker 2: book first came out. I'm sure a lot of people 496 00:22:33,984 --> 00:22:36,304 Speaker 2: would buy this, but it's more so like even just 497 00:22:36,304 --> 00:22:38,344 Speaker 2: the stories that are filtering out through the headlines and 498 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:40,424 Speaker 2: doing a lot of damage against her. Because then she 499 00:22:40,464 --> 00:22:43,704 Speaker 2: put another statement on Twitter, and this came after the 500 00:22:43,824 --> 00:22:46,384 Speaker 2: stories of from her sons that Kevin was saying. My 501 00:22:46,464 --> 00:22:48,624 Speaker 2: sons say they don't want to see her. They say 502 00:22:48,664 --> 00:22:50,984 Speaker 2: that they felt unsafe. They say that their mother did 503 00:22:51,024 --> 00:22:54,224 Speaker 2: all these things. And in response to that, Brittany posted 504 00:22:54,264 --> 00:22:56,024 Speaker 2: this from her own account, so you have to assume 505 00:22:56,024 --> 00:22:58,664 Speaker 2: it's her writing it, and she said, the constant gas 506 00:22:58,704 --> 00:23:01,784 Speaker 2: lighting from my ex husband is extremely hurtful and exhausting. 507 00:23:02,104 --> 00:23:04,904 Speaker 2: I have always pleaded and screamed to have a life 508 00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:08,944 Speaker 2: with my boys. Relationships with teenage boys are complex. I 509 00:23:08,984 --> 00:23:12,144 Speaker 2: have felt demoralized by this situation and have always asked 510 00:23:12,184 --> 00:23:15,944 Speaker 2: and also begged them to be part of my life. Sadly, 511 00:23:16,024 --> 00:23:18,544 Speaker 2: they have always witnessed the lack of respect show and 512 00:23:18,584 --> 00:23:21,744 Speaker 2: by their father for me. They need to take responsibility 513 00:23:21,784 --> 00:23:25,584 Speaker 2: for themselves, with one son only seeing me for forty 514 00:23:25,584 --> 00:23:28,384 Speaker 2: five minutes in the past five years and the other 515 00:23:28,504 --> 00:23:31,464 Speaker 2: only four visits in the past five years. And this 516 00:23:31,584 --> 00:23:33,544 Speaker 2: is interesting because I've never seen her say anything like 517 00:23:33,584 --> 00:23:36,184 Speaker 2: this publicly about her sons before she went on to say, 518 00:23:36,584 --> 00:23:39,264 Speaker 2: I have pride too. From now on, I will let 519 00:23:39,264 --> 00:23:41,944 Speaker 2: them know when I am available. Trust me, those white 520 00:23:42,024 --> 00:23:44,704 Speaker 2: lies in that book, they are going straight to the bank, 521 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:47,464 Speaker 2: and I am the only one who gets genuinely hurt here. 522 00:23:47,944 --> 00:23:50,144 Speaker 2: I will always love them, and if you really know me, 523 00:23:50,264 --> 00:23:53,264 Speaker 2: you won't pay attention to the tabloids about my mental 524 00:23:53,344 --> 00:23:56,224 Speaker 2: health and drinking. I am actually a pretty intelligent woman 525 00:23:56,264 --> 00:23:58,864 Speaker 2: who's been trying to live a sacred and private life 526 00:23:58,864 --> 00:24:01,584 Speaker 2: for the past five years. I speak on this because 527 00:24:01,624 --> 00:24:04,344 Speaker 2: I've had enough, and any real woman would do the same. 528 00:24:04,904 --> 00:24:06,464 Speaker 1: Do you know what The key thing for me from 529 00:24:06,544 --> 00:24:11,264 Speaker 1: that whole statement was white lies. Lies is a very 530 00:24:12,064 --> 00:24:18,544 Speaker 1: odd choice of words, just say lies, white lies that. 531 00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:20,784 Speaker 2: It makes it seem like it's not a huge. 532 00:24:20,504 --> 00:24:23,784 Speaker 1: Lie that to me insinuates a really small lies, something 533 00:24:23,904 --> 00:24:29,104 Speaker 1: minor and inconsequential. But that's not what these lies are saying. 534 00:24:29,144 --> 00:24:31,504 Speaker 1: These are really big allegations. 535 00:24:31,864 --> 00:24:33,544 Speaker 2: It's almost like she's trying to say, like, some of 536 00:24:33,544 --> 00:24:35,464 Speaker 2: the stories in the book couldn't have happened because she 537 00:24:35,464 --> 00:24:37,624 Speaker 2: hasn't spent any time with her sons over the past 538 00:24:37,704 --> 00:24:40,704 Speaker 2: five years when they would have been in those teenage years. 539 00:24:41,224 --> 00:24:43,384 Speaker 2: And it's the first kind of stance she's like take 540 00:24:43,384 --> 00:24:45,824 Speaker 2: it against her sons by speaking to them via the 541 00:24:45,864 --> 00:24:48,144 Speaker 2: media and via the public and saying like I'm not 542 00:24:48,144 --> 00:24:50,704 Speaker 2: going to stand for this anymore, and basically saying like, oh, 543 00:24:50,784 --> 00:24:51,984 Speaker 2: let you know, when I want to see you, I 544 00:24:51,984 --> 00:24:54,104 Speaker 2: don't want to see you anymore because you've taken your 545 00:24:54,104 --> 00:24:55,264 Speaker 2: father's side. Essentially. 546 00:24:56,104 --> 00:24:58,744 Speaker 1: That's hard. That's really tractricky, because these kids have had 547 00:24:58,744 --> 00:25:02,784 Speaker 1: a pretty rough upbringing, growing up in that environment. Having 548 00:25:02,784 --> 00:25:04,864 Speaker 1: all of these things said about their mother not having 549 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:07,544 Speaker 1: a relationship with her, you know, I can't imagine that 550 00:25:07,544 --> 00:25:09,824 Speaker 1: would be very easy. And in terms of like attachment 551 00:25:09,904 --> 00:25:13,384 Speaker 1: theory and being attached to their mother, that would have 552 00:25:13,464 --> 00:25:17,824 Speaker 1: been severely severely affected. Yeah, her being in a conservative ship. 553 00:25:18,144 --> 00:25:19,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing to remember with this is 554 00:25:19,704 --> 00:25:21,424 Speaker 2: like we feel like we know so much about this 555 00:25:21,464 --> 00:25:24,824 Speaker 2: situation because it's been documented so heavily in the press 556 00:25:24,864 --> 00:25:29,024 Speaker 2: cycles for over twenty years. And we've had Brittney Spears's 557 00:25:29,144 --> 00:25:31,984 Speaker 2: Full tell Or book, which went so in depth in 558 00:25:32,024 --> 00:25:33,864 Speaker 2: her life with Kevin and the kids. And now we've 559 00:25:33,864 --> 00:25:37,024 Speaker 2: got Kevin Federline's book, which goes so in depth on 560 00:25:37,064 --> 00:25:39,424 Speaker 2: what his kids are saying. But I think Royal still 561 00:25:39,424 --> 00:25:43,344 Speaker 2: only getting like little tiny glimpses of the actual story. 562 00:25:43,984 --> 00:25:46,744 Speaker 2: It kind of feels like so much worse happened that 563 00:25:46,824 --> 00:25:50,304 Speaker 2: they're not detailing, or it's so much more complicated between 564 00:25:50,344 --> 00:25:52,944 Speaker 2: their children and them, but neither of them they've both 565 00:25:53,064 --> 00:25:55,704 Speaker 2: terry picked the stories where because I'm sure Brittany did 566 00:25:55,704 --> 00:25:57,664 Speaker 2: it too, Like she's terry picked stories, like if you 567 00:25:57,704 --> 00:25:59,544 Speaker 2: read her memoir, and I'm sure a lot of it's 568 00:25:59,544 --> 00:26:01,704 Speaker 2: true and like it's your point of view, but in 569 00:26:01,784 --> 00:26:04,224 Speaker 2: her memoir, like she's desperately trying to look after her 570 00:26:04,344 --> 00:26:07,104 Speaker 2: kids and she's a good mother. And then Kevin's story 571 00:26:07,184 --> 00:26:09,184 Speaker 2: is that he was desperately trying to protect his kids 572 00:26:09,384 --> 00:26:11,464 Speaker 2: from this crazy woman. And I'm sure both of them 573 00:26:11,504 --> 00:26:12,864 Speaker 2: believe that that is the truth. 574 00:26:12,984 --> 00:26:16,064 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's human nature is to protect yourself and 575 00:26:16,144 --> 00:26:19,344 Speaker 1: portray yourself in the most positive light. And memory is 576 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:22,384 Speaker 1: a funny thing. You know, one person's memory of a 577 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:25,904 Speaker 1: situation will be completely different to another, and it's not 578 00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:29,784 Speaker 1: an accurate representation of what actually happened. So I'm sure 579 00:26:29,784 --> 00:26:32,664 Speaker 1: that they both believe that's the truth. But yeah, when 580 00:26:32,704 --> 00:26:35,224 Speaker 1: we're not really going to know. But for me, at 581 00:26:35,224 --> 00:26:38,224 Speaker 1: the end of the day, she's clearly very upset about this. 582 00:26:38,624 --> 00:26:41,264 Speaker 1: He is making money off it. I would love to 583 00:26:41,304 --> 00:26:43,304 Speaker 1: hear from the boys directly, but. 584 00:26:43,264 --> 00:26:46,264 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they would because you're so influenced, 585 00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:48,664 Speaker 2: especially that age, by what they've heard from their father 586 00:26:48,744 --> 00:26:50,424 Speaker 2: over the years, what they've heard from their mother, or 587 00:26:50,504 --> 00:26:53,384 Speaker 2: they've heard from They were very close to their grandfather, 588 00:26:53,584 --> 00:26:57,304 Speaker 2: Jamie Spears, who Britney alleges was like the mastermind and 589 00:26:57,344 --> 00:26:58,864 Speaker 2: did the worst things to her and was the one 590 00:26:58,944 --> 00:27:01,904 Speaker 2: keeping her in conservativeship. But they were really close and 591 00:27:01,944 --> 00:27:03,744 Speaker 2: there was a falling out with them. So there's so 592 00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:06,984 Speaker 2: many layers of family complication here. And the thing with 593 00:27:07,064 --> 00:27:09,624 Speaker 2: the Britney Spears story, which always makes every part of 594 00:27:09,664 --> 00:27:13,384 Speaker 2: it so hard to believe anything or to trust anyone 595 00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:15,544 Speaker 2: in this narrative. It's like everyone in this narrative is 596 00:27:15,544 --> 00:27:19,464 Speaker 2: an unreliable narrator because you've got to trace the money, 597 00:27:19,504 --> 00:27:22,144 Speaker 2: and they're all profiting off her in some way. Every 598 00:27:22,144 --> 00:27:25,464 Speaker 2: single person involved in that Conservative ship on both sides, 599 00:27:25,704 --> 00:27:28,104 Speaker 2: was profiting off her. She was paying the legal fees 600 00:27:28,144 --> 00:27:30,944 Speaker 2: on both sides. Everyone who works in that house is 601 00:27:30,984 --> 00:27:34,464 Speaker 2: somehow like tied to her for their income, Like her 602 00:27:34,464 --> 00:27:36,344 Speaker 2: ex husband, like Sam, like he was tied to her 603 00:27:36,384 --> 00:27:38,744 Speaker 2: for income. Kevin Fedline and all his ex wives and 604 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,904 Speaker 2: children are all tied to her, all her like other family, 605 00:27:41,984 --> 00:27:45,064 Speaker 2: like her mum was getting like a salary from her estates, 606 00:27:45,144 --> 00:27:47,024 Speaker 2: so was her dad, so was her sister. Oh that's 607 00:27:47,064 --> 00:27:49,664 Speaker 2: the other thing. There's text from Jamie Lynn Spears in 608 00:27:49,704 --> 00:27:52,784 Speaker 2: the book, who has always said that she was not 609 00:27:52,824 --> 00:27:54,944 Speaker 2: involved in the Conservative ship. She's like, I was a child, 610 00:27:55,024 --> 00:27:56,824 Speaker 2: I tried to help my sister. I've always tried to 611 00:27:56,864 --> 00:27:59,224 Speaker 2: help her. But then there are these texts in the 612 00:27:59,264 --> 00:28:03,064 Speaker 2: book that Kevin Fedline says Jamie Lynn Spears sent to 613 00:28:03,144 --> 00:28:07,104 Speaker 2: his wife Victoria Prince, and in them, she's basically like 614 00:28:07,224 --> 00:28:09,664 Speaker 2: siding with Kevin, So he's obviously been sitting on these 615 00:28:09,704 --> 00:28:12,624 Speaker 2: for a long time and he's decided to drop them 616 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:14,624 Speaker 2: in the book to kind of like say, like even 617 00:28:14,664 --> 00:28:16,624 Speaker 2: her family. Again, this is. 618 00:28:16,584 --> 00:28:17,424 Speaker 1: So low for me. 619 00:28:17,984 --> 00:28:20,104 Speaker 2: So the text that he has says, and I haven't 620 00:28:20,104 --> 00:28:23,224 Speaker 2: seen Jamillen Spears comment on this yet, but it is 621 00:28:23,264 --> 00:28:25,264 Speaker 2: like in the printed version of the book, so he 622 00:28:25,344 --> 00:28:28,904 Speaker 2: must have felt like he could. They must have verified 623 00:28:28,904 --> 00:28:32,024 Speaker 2: that these text messages came from her, and so this 624 00:28:32,104 --> 00:28:35,944 Speaker 2: text message from Jamiellen Spears to Kevin, and Victoria says, honestly, 625 00:28:35,984 --> 00:28:37,744 Speaker 2: this makes me want to cry because I feel for 626 00:28:37,824 --> 00:28:41,264 Speaker 2: those boys so much. I'm her little sister by ten years, 627 00:28:41,304 --> 00:28:44,504 Speaker 2: and I can't imagine what her actual children must feel like. 628 00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,704 Speaker 2: But I am familiar with the feeling of being a 629 00:28:46,784 --> 00:28:50,064 Speaker 2: dinghy trying to survive in a wave caused by another ship, 630 00:28:50,384 --> 00:28:53,504 Speaker 2: feeling like you have to rescue yourself. She then went 631 00:28:53,544 --> 00:28:55,824 Speaker 2: on to say that she feels that her sister was 632 00:28:55,864 --> 00:28:59,864 Speaker 2: incapable of ever taking accountability for the circumstances she was in, 633 00:29:00,464 --> 00:29:02,424 Speaker 2: and then she also went on to say, I'm sure 634 00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:05,144 Speaker 2: my sister never thanked you all for raising her children 635 00:29:05,424 --> 00:29:08,224 Speaker 2: and still being beyond gracious to allow her so many 636 00:29:08,304 --> 00:29:11,344 Speaker 2: chances to take part in their lives, even when you're old, 637 00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:13,464 Speaker 2: because that's how Jamalen spit, That's how the text is written, 638 00:29:13,624 --> 00:29:16,064 Speaker 2: even when you all had more than enough reason to 639 00:29:16,184 --> 00:29:18,624 Speaker 2: validate cutting her off. So I wanted you know how 640 00:29:18,704 --> 00:29:21,344 Speaker 2: much you are appreciated and supported by those of us 641 00:29:21,384 --> 00:29:24,464 Speaker 2: who love those boys. So basically she's saying. 642 00:29:24,384 --> 00:29:26,104 Speaker 1: I hate that so much. 643 00:29:26,824 --> 00:29:28,744 Speaker 2: It's also hard to like, that's only a sampling of 644 00:29:28,744 --> 00:29:30,424 Speaker 2: text mestages, like it's hard to know what the whole 645 00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:33,264 Speaker 2: exchange was, but basically it is quite damning that like 646 00:29:33,664 --> 00:29:36,424 Speaker 2: Kevin's line out this whole narrative of Britney Spears being 647 00:29:36,424 --> 00:29:40,424 Speaker 2: a dangerous mother, and then her sons have said that, yes, 648 00:29:40,464 --> 00:29:43,024 Speaker 2: that's what's happened, and he's putting all the words in 649 00:29:43,064 --> 00:29:46,304 Speaker 2: his son's mouth. And then he has her sister also 650 00:29:46,384 --> 00:29:49,584 Speaker 2: in the book, like her own words, saying, my sister is, 651 00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:51,504 Speaker 2: you know, not a good person to be around. I 652 00:29:51,584 --> 00:29:53,584 Speaker 2: felt this, and she should thank you for raising her 653 00:29:53,624 --> 00:29:55,464 Speaker 2: children because she was incapable of doing it. 654 00:29:55,464 --> 00:29:58,624 Speaker 1: It feels so calculated. It's like, oh, I've held onto 655 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,664 Speaker 1: this for ten years, fifteen years, and now I'm going 656 00:30:00,744 --> 00:30:03,784 Speaker 1: to show everybody your sister doesn't even like you. This 657 00:30:03,824 --> 00:30:06,464 Speaker 1: is what she said about you. Your kids don't like you, 658 00:30:06,704 --> 00:30:09,664 Speaker 1: this is what they said about you. It's just so calculated, 659 00:30:10,064 --> 00:30:13,184 Speaker 1: and I find it's so upsetting. Yeah, I really find 660 00:30:13,224 --> 00:30:16,784 Speaker 1: it upsetting, you know, the way that people have profited 661 00:30:16,784 --> 00:30:20,224 Speaker 1: off her, and allegedly the manipulation that happened around that 662 00:30:20,264 --> 00:30:23,704 Speaker 1: conservatorship of making her work by sort of dangling her, 663 00:30:23,944 --> 00:30:26,624 Speaker 1: visiting her children in front of her, or saying if 664 00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:28,384 Speaker 1: you do this, we'll let you do this. Like the 665 00:30:28,424 --> 00:30:32,544 Speaker 1: way that she was controlled so much in that thirteen years. 666 00:30:33,144 --> 00:30:35,504 Speaker 1: You know, I think that some of her behavior since 667 00:30:35,504 --> 00:30:38,384 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one is a reaction to being able to 668 00:30:38,424 --> 00:30:42,784 Speaker 1: make her own decisions finally. But now there's this, and 669 00:30:42,864 --> 00:30:46,504 Speaker 1: it is all so messy and very very upset, and 670 00:30:46,584 --> 00:30:47,064 Speaker 1: I feel like. 671 00:30:46,984 --> 00:30:50,304 Speaker 2: This will villainize Jamielyn Spears even more because when Brittany's 672 00:30:50,304 --> 00:30:53,504 Speaker 2: book came out, and when Jamielyn Spears's own book came out, 673 00:30:53,824 --> 00:30:56,584 Speaker 2: she received a huge amount of backlash because people thought 674 00:30:56,584 --> 00:30:59,264 Speaker 2: that because her signature was on some of the conservative 675 00:30:59,264 --> 00:31:01,864 Speaker 2: ship papers, so that kind of negated her story that 676 00:31:01,904 --> 00:31:04,344 Speaker 2: she'd always told that she wasn't involved in it, even 677 00:31:04,344 --> 00:31:06,264 Speaker 2: though now she says she wasn't involved to the extent 678 00:31:06,264 --> 00:31:08,664 Speaker 2: people thought she was. And the thing is too like 679 00:31:08,744 --> 00:31:11,384 Speaker 2: she also had like a horrificlhood where she was like 680 00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:14,504 Speaker 2: set up to be Nickelodeon's big, you know, new golden girl, 681 00:31:14,504 --> 00:31:17,064 Speaker 2: and then got pregnant as a young teenager and then 682 00:31:17,184 --> 00:31:19,304 Speaker 2: was basically like taken to a cabin in the woods 683 00:31:19,304 --> 00:31:22,784 Speaker 2: and locked up by like her family and Nickelodeon officials. Allegedly. 684 00:31:22,864 --> 00:31:25,304 Speaker 2: She says that's like all detailed in her book, and 685 00:31:25,464 --> 00:31:27,344 Speaker 2: was like almost forced to give up her child, which 686 00:31:27,384 --> 00:31:30,064 Speaker 2: she decided not to and lost her career. So like 687 00:31:30,224 --> 00:31:33,384 Speaker 2: there's a huge story on that side as well. But basically, 688 00:31:33,424 --> 00:31:35,664 Speaker 2: like her income has always been tied to Britney Spears 689 00:31:35,664 --> 00:31:37,784 Speaker 2: in many ways as well in terms of like she 690 00:31:37,904 --> 00:31:39,584 Speaker 2: was the bread runner of the family when she was 691 00:31:39,584 --> 00:31:41,824 Speaker 2: a child. So it's really hard to trust anyone. I 692 00:31:41,864 --> 00:31:43,184 Speaker 2: really think the only way out of this is to 693 00:31:43,224 --> 00:31:45,664 Speaker 2: have someone come into Britney Spears's life who is not 694 00:31:45,744 --> 00:31:48,944 Speaker 2: financially dependent on her at all. 695 00:31:49,864 --> 00:31:53,424 Speaker 1: Can you imagine your whole life You can't trust anybody 696 00:31:53,424 --> 00:31:57,984 Speaker 1: because everybody around you, their livelihood is dependent on you 697 00:31:58,104 --> 00:32:01,304 Speaker 1: making money. You can't trust anyone. She can't trust anyone. 698 00:32:01,464 --> 00:32:04,504 Speaker 1: No one has given her that safe place, no one 699 00:32:04,544 --> 00:32:05,344 Speaker 1: in her life. 700 00:32:05,504 --> 00:32:07,664 Speaker 2: Kevin Feloin's book is coming out this week. It feels 701 00:32:07,664 --> 00:32:09,024 Speaker 2: like we've got so much out of it, but like 702 00:32:09,064 --> 00:32:11,104 Speaker 2: the full book isn't even out the world yet, So 703 00:32:11,184 --> 00:32:12,784 Speaker 2: that's coming. So I'm sure there's going to be even 704 00:32:12,824 --> 00:32:15,784 Speaker 2: more damning stories in there about Britney Spears. I'm sure 705 00:32:15,824 --> 00:32:18,344 Speaker 2: she'll respond again. All eyes are on her now, so 706 00:32:18,344 --> 00:32:20,784 Speaker 2: anytime she posts the video from her home, there's all 707 00:32:20,784 --> 00:32:24,744 Speaker 2: these allegations of her mental health and these calls from fans. Now, 708 00:32:24,824 --> 00:32:26,304 Speaker 2: they say a lot of people who were in the 709 00:32:26,304 --> 00:32:29,064 Speaker 2: Free Britney movement are now calling for her to like 710 00:32:29,104 --> 00:32:32,304 Speaker 2: be have some sort of hole put over her or something, 711 00:32:32,464 --> 00:32:34,584 Speaker 2: just sort of again because she doesn't look like that 712 00:32:34,704 --> 00:32:36,624 Speaker 2: perfect pop star that people thought she was gonna look. 713 00:32:36,624 --> 00:32:39,344 Speaker 2: So it's a very complex situation and unfortunately, I think 714 00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:41,104 Speaker 2: in the next week it is going to escalate quite 715 00:32:41,104 --> 00:32:41,344 Speaker 2: a bit. 716 00:32:41,464 --> 00:32:43,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's more to come in this story. 717 00:32:43,864 --> 00:32:46,304 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 718 00:32:46,424 --> 00:32:48,784 Speaker 1: Have you guys checked out our YouTube yet? 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