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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: On Makeup is My therapy Love. I'm obsessed and I

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Speaker 1: don't even feel guilty about it. Hello and welcome to

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Speaker 1: you Beauty, the daily podcast for your Face.

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Speaker 2: I'm herown Dockety and I'm m Vernon, and you're listening

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Speaker 2: to Tried and Tested, the show where we put new products, treatments,

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Speaker 2: and hacks to the test so you don't have to

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Speaker 2: unless they're really really worth it.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what heck're bringing today. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm bringing a hack called the Contrast Makeup Hack,

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Speaker 2: and it tells you how exactly you're meant to be

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Speaker 2: doing your makeup depending on the contrast of your skin

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Speaker 2: and features.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've been seeing this everywhere and I don't understand it,

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Speaker 1: so I can't wait for you to break it down

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Speaker 1: and explain it to me and tell me if it

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Speaker 1: does work.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I have a hack that promises to clear your black

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Speaker 1: heads and for all, and it's pretty simple, so we

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Speaker 1: love simple. I reckon. We got this one.

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Speaker 2: Testing tusting one to three did it work. So according

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Speaker 2: to French TikTok creator Alior, she says that we should

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Speaker 2: be doing our makeup in relation to the contrast on

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Speaker 1: Let me explain, tell me.

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Speaker 2: So she created this filter on TikTok that it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like a gray scale and it tells you that

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Speaker 2: everyone's contrast levels. It's either like low, medium or high.

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Speaker 2: It's measured via the lightness of your skin versus the

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Speaker 2: color of your features.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and like the darkness of your brows and all

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Speaker 2: I think it's mainly hair because she compares like people

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Speaker 2: who she says are low contrasts like Taylor Swift and Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: Their features and their hair is like very similar to

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Speaker 2: their skin color, okay, versus people with high contrast, who

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Speaker 2: she says are Anne Hathaway, Kieren Eiley. I did the filter.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm high trust as well, who's like skin

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Speaker 2: color is quite different to the hair to the hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is this a there to be our new like

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Speaker 1: color theory? Even just thinking about it, I don't know

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Speaker 1: where I would sit on that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got the I've got the app here. I

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Speaker 2: kind of want you to use it so you can

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Speaker 2: find out once and for all.

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Speaker 1: And this will help you with your makeup look in

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Speaker 1: terms of what kind of shade you should be using.

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Speaker 2: Or Yeah, so if you aren't watching along on our

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel, just to explain what's happening right now, Aaron

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Speaker 2: has the filter up. It's like a black and white

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Speaker 2: filter which shows half of Aaron's face and on the

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Speaker 2: other half it's like a cartoon pop up version that

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Speaker 2: also shares the same features as her. So you pick

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Speaker 2: like your skin color light, medium or deep, and then

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Speaker 2: on the side it gives you the options of high, medium,

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Speaker 2: levels to see which one you are.

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, well I think the medium matches up with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you are medium. Take a screenshot. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So her theory is that if you're low contrast, so

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Speaker 2: say someone who's features kind of blends in with their

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Speaker 2: hair and skin, you're meant to try to match your

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Speaker 2: What one's what so like so low contrast contrast, you

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Speaker 2: think like lightish skin light hair. They want to kind

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Speaker 2: already have the soft look. That's what she wants to

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Speaker 2: achieve medium. So you light eyes, with dark hair, light skin,

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Speaker 2: you can put a bit of maker, but not too much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, and make very little effort every day,

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Speaker 2: And then she says high contrast people, So you're high contrast.

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Speaker 2: I'm high contrast. When I did the filter, she's like,

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Speaker 2: She did say, however, that like this look could also

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Speaker 2: and that would never work for me, of course it will, No,

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that this was like for a

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's very French beauty look, very.

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Speaker 2: this doesn't work for darker skin tones, which is kind

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Speaker 2: of what I was thinking, especially with ethnic features. I

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Speaker 2: And then she did another video with some other celebrities

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Speaker 2: with darker skin tones, trying to explain but it's really hard,

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Speaker 2: Like it's hard to just say that just because your

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Speaker 2: You know what it reminds me of. It reminds me

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Speaker 2: of you remember that thing where everyone was so concerned

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Speaker 2: with what color eyeshadow you should have and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you have like light eyes and blue eyes,

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Speaker 2: I'm not coming into work with electric blue eyeshadow. That's insane.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like that's the territory we're kind of

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Speaker 2: I would say this is a fail. It's more just

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like a lot of people know exactly

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Speaker 2: But the filter, I would say, is good. If you're

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Speaker 2: maybe give it a go then. But I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: You do you, you do you. If you're some one

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Speaker 1: Anytime we write about black heads or mom and me,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's just the way

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Speaker 1: you maintain your skincare routine. I think it's all in

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Speaker 1: good skincare routine afterwards, and that would help for your

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Speaker 1: So there's definitely something in maintenance treatments, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is one of those things. It's a TikTok I

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Speaker 1: saw from an Instagram account called Certified skin Vestie. It's

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Speaker 1: very cute and it basically claims that a deep double

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Speaker 1: cleanse paired with a salicylic acid three times a week

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Speaker 2: Oh, explain like salicilic acid to me, because acid is

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Speaker 1: Okay, Salicilic acid is part of the BHA family, So

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Speaker 1: you know how you've got alpha hydroxy acids, you've got

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Speaker 1: beta hydroxy acids. It's part of the BHA family. Kelly

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Speaker 1: McCarron described it like this one time. If you think

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Speaker 1: of like a little pac man, like munching. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it's like a little pac man munching away on the

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Speaker 1: oil and dirt in your pores. So it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: There's obviously different types of acids. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: a little bit about this hack. It involves using like

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Speaker 1: an oil cleanser or a balm cleanser, massaging it in

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Speaker 1: like your ce to feel sarah V or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: then you go ahead and apply salacilic acid serum to

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Speaker 1: your nose and chin. So this TikTok creator showed a

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Speaker 1: few different products for options. She had the Natrium cleansing bomb,

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Speaker 1: which is thirty nine ninety five. You can get it

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Speaker 1: off their website. Have you tried this one? It's like

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Speaker 1: purple packaging. I love it so much. It's such a

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Speaker 1: She also showed the ordinary salacilic Acid two percent solution,

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Speaker 1: which you can obviously get from like Adoor Beauty price

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Speaker 1: sign it's like ten dollars, really affordable. She has another

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Speaker 1: it on look fantastic. It's kind of hard to get.

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Speaker 1: I think it's mainly like an American product. She also

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Speaker 1: showed a K beauty brand called Mediicube zero por Pads

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Speaker 1: two point zero. You can get that online for thirty

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Speaker 1: two ninety five. They're like Tona pads. So basically there's

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Speaker 1: a few different options. You just need a cleansing balm

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Speaker 1: or oil, your normal water based cleanser, and a salicilic

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Speaker 1: acid serum tona whatever kind of product has salicilic acid

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Speaker 1: in it. Okay, Now, the theory behind this is obviously

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Speaker 1: like the double cleanse with an oil. You spoke on

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Speaker 1: this a little bit last week. But it will help

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Speaker 1: remove oil based impurity. So it kind of acts like

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Speaker 1: a magnet and pulls the oil.

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Speaker 2: You can see it on your hand.

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Speaker 1: It's so fine, so good. And then the salicilic acid,

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Speaker 1: as I said, is like the little pac man that

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Speaker 1: goes and munches all the oil and dirt yum, yum yum.

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Speaker 1: Get in that poor and it takes that all out

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Speaker 1: of your skin. So it sounds like it would work,

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Speaker 1: like it would be a really good time, right. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of balm cleansers. I wear SBF and

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Speaker 1: makeup nearly every day, so I always double cleanse at night.

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Speaker 1: I have a few favorites, let me just tell you. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the natre and balm, which is the one she mentioned,

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Speaker 1: that's really good. I also really love the Alpha H

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Speaker 1: melting Moment cleansing balm. If you've tried this example, it's

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Speaker 1: very expensive. It's seventy dollars from a door beauty. But

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Speaker 1: I've recently been trying it's Bondai Sands melt Meat moisturizing

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Speaker 1: So I've basically been cleansing my face like this is

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Speaker 1: what I do anyway, but cleanse your face with something

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Speaker 1: using the Medicaid pressing clear exfoliating two percent BHA tonic

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Speaker 1: gentle relief salicylic acid what.

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Speaker 2: A name basically is like my life.

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Speaker 1: It is really good. It's also really bloody expensive, though

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Speaker 1: I think it is around it's like sixty nine dollars

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Speaker 2: So you don't do the whole face. What's salacilic Well,

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Speaker 1: I do this like once or twice a week. The

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Speaker 2: Tie gets so small and work your way out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally rate that, and I've been doing it

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Speaker 2: You knew it before it happened, So nail fail.

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Speaker 1: It's a definite nail.

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