1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast. 2 00:00:15,434 --> 00:00:19,954 Speaker 2: Makeup is my therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even 3 00:00:19,954 --> 00:00:20,954 Speaker 2: feel guilty about it. 4 00:00:23,914 --> 00:00:26,553 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty, the podcast for Your Face. 5 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:29,434 Speaker 4: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kellen McCarran, and as always on 6 00:00:29,474 --> 00:00:33,434 Speaker 4: a Monday, we answer You're burning, hopefully not burning otherwise. 7 00:00:33,473 --> 00:00:34,473 Speaker 1: Coditle dropped out. 8 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:38,513 Speaker 4: Beauty questions, but before we get into them, let's hear 9 00:00:38,554 --> 00:00:41,553 Speaker 4: what's happening in the world of beauty with the Beauty Edit. 10 00:00:42,273 --> 00:00:46,153 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Beauty Edit. Hello, Ca, Hi Mault, Hi, 11 00:00:46,273 --> 00:00:50,354 Speaker 2: going good. I've got so much to get into today 12 00:00:50,434 --> 00:00:50,993 Speaker 2: we do. 13 00:00:51,434 --> 00:00:52,114 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 14 00:00:52,354 --> 00:00:54,594 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to talk about what is happening with 15 00:00:54,714 --> 00:00:57,954 Speaker 2: Zendaya and euphoria and the trends of makeup at the moment, 16 00:00:57,954 --> 00:00:59,514 Speaker 2: because truly things are. 17 00:00:59,434 --> 00:01:03,273 Speaker 5: Changing, I know, changing and like coming back and just 18 00:01:03,394 --> 00:01:06,914 Speaker 5: really we've got some really strong opinions about this today. 19 00:01:06,914 --> 00:01:09,834 Speaker 5: But do you want to kick off with Zendaya's latest 20 00:01:10,154 --> 00:01:11,594 Speaker 5: look on the red carpet? 21 00:01:11,914 --> 00:01:14,994 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. She just stepped out at the Drama after 22 00:01:15,034 --> 00:01:18,474 Speaker 2: party wearing this kind of metallic blue smoky cat eye. 23 00:01:18,754 --> 00:01:20,954 Speaker 2: It was quite something to behold. I haven't seen a 24 00:01:21,034 --> 00:01:23,874 Speaker 2: kind of colorful, vampy look like that in a while 25 00:01:23,914 --> 00:01:26,034 Speaker 2: on the carpet. Obviously she has an amazing makeup artist. 26 00:01:26,114 --> 00:01:28,274 Speaker 2: She looked gorgeous. It was a real departure from what 27 00:01:28,314 --> 00:01:30,314 Speaker 2: we saw at the Oscars, which is very princessy and 28 00:01:30,394 --> 00:01:31,234 Speaker 2: very clean girls. 29 00:01:31,314 --> 00:01:34,834 Speaker 5: I also think we often see Zendaya with like actually 30 00:01:34,954 --> 00:01:38,874 Speaker 5: quite minimal makeup. She has such beautiful, flawless skin and 31 00:01:39,754 --> 00:01:44,474 Speaker 5: such posture, and she's such a regal kind of vision 32 00:01:44,554 --> 00:01:46,514 Speaker 5: on the red carpet, Like she doesn't need a lot 33 00:01:46,554 --> 00:01:48,634 Speaker 5: of makeup, so she doesn't really wear a lot often. 34 00:01:48,834 --> 00:01:52,114 Speaker 5: I'm actually reliving her Spider Man journey at the moment. 35 00:01:52,154 --> 00:01:54,994 Speaker 5: My kids are obsessed with Spider Man again, and she's 36 00:01:55,074 --> 00:01:58,674 Speaker 5: just she's so gorgeous with not a scrap on exactly. 37 00:01:58,714 --> 00:02:00,634 Speaker 2: So when she does do something like this, it feels 38 00:02:00,674 --> 00:02:03,954 Speaker 2: like a moment. It's I think I sort of thought, okay, 39 00:02:03,954 --> 00:02:05,594 Speaker 2: one and done. And it was also really cute because 40 00:02:05,594 --> 00:02:07,354 Speaker 2: it was her something Blue for the drama, which is 41 00:02:07,354 --> 00:02:09,714 Speaker 2: obviously about a wedding, I think. 42 00:02:09,514 --> 00:02:11,634 Speaker 5: And the drama we're talking about when we talk about 43 00:02:11,633 --> 00:02:13,233 Speaker 5: the drama, that's film. 44 00:02:13,314 --> 00:02:15,674 Speaker 2: Yes, her new film of course, but then she also 45 00:02:15,754 --> 00:02:18,874 Speaker 2: stepped out at the premiere for Euphoria Season three with 46 00:02:18,914 --> 00:02:21,994 Speaker 2: a really smoky eyelighter look, and I was like, Okay, 47 00:02:22,274 --> 00:02:24,554 Speaker 2: are we in a new era of makeup? Your makeup 48 00:02:25,154 --> 00:02:27,234 Speaker 2: and moles? This is what I really wanted to get 49 00:02:27,274 --> 00:02:31,794 Speaker 2: down to, because are we done with normal makeup? Are 50 00:02:31,794 --> 00:02:34,314 Speaker 2: we done done with it? Or is it just and 51 00:02:34,354 --> 00:02:38,834 Speaker 2: this is probably what I think that on big events 52 00:02:39,114 --> 00:02:41,674 Speaker 2: we now have to go ahead to do something wild, yeah, 53 00:02:41,754 --> 00:02:43,114 Speaker 2: and then on the day to day west sort of 54 00:02:43,154 --> 00:02:44,913 Speaker 2: doing our normal make cup makeup. 55 00:02:45,154 --> 00:02:46,474 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know totally. 56 00:02:46,554 --> 00:02:50,674 Speaker 5: I think Pinterest picked the trends for twenty twenty six, 57 00:02:50,754 --> 00:02:53,594 Speaker 5: one of which was extra celestial. Now when we look 58 00:02:53,594 --> 00:02:57,914 Speaker 5: at that as like holographic kind of really opalescent eyeshadow, 59 00:02:58,274 --> 00:03:01,474 Speaker 5: kind of that cosmic look, almost a bit sparkly, which 60 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:03,514 Speaker 5: we saw a lot of on the Grammys Red Carpet 61 00:03:03,514 --> 00:03:05,474 Speaker 5: a couple of months ago. You know, Zara las And 62 00:03:05,594 --> 00:03:08,114 Speaker 5: was very much doing that look, the bronzie and the 63 00:03:08,194 --> 00:03:10,874 Speaker 5: smoky eye and the really metallic and all that kind 64 00:03:10,874 --> 00:03:13,554 Speaker 5: of really built up, layered stuff, which I think is 65 00:03:13,554 --> 00:03:16,594 Speaker 5: where you're headed here, right, Like they are big events. 66 00:03:16,674 --> 00:03:19,114 Speaker 5: But then on the flip side, we've got like the 67 00:03:19,154 --> 00:03:23,394 Speaker 5: clean girl asthetic, the lazy girl aesthetic, the can't be bothered. 68 00:03:25,434 --> 00:03:27,994 Speaker 2: And I do also feel like there's maybe a new 69 00:03:28,034 --> 00:03:29,834 Speaker 2: era here of either you're doing a look or you're 70 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:32,274 Speaker 2: doing nothing, and either it's fine, which is kind of 71 00:03:32,274 --> 00:03:34,474 Speaker 2: refreshing because I feel like there was previously a lot 72 00:03:34,514 --> 00:03:36,434 Speaker 2: of pressure on the red carpet to be like, well, 73 00:03:36,474 --> 00:03:38,754 Speaker 2: on your red carp or even just to your prom 74 00:03:38,914 --> 00:03:41,314 Speaker 2: or whatever event you have going on a big work event, 75 00:03:41,674 --> 00:03:43,554 Speaker 2: to do something special with your makeup, And I think 76 00:03:43,554 --> 00:03:46,554 Speaker 2: it's fine to do something that's pared back and every day, 77 00:03:46,794 --> 00:03:49,034 Speaker 2: but then if you want to go wild, this is 78 00:03:49,034 --> 00:03:49,954 Speaker 2: your permission to do that. 79 00:03:50,114 --> 00:03:52,834 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean Pamela Anderson is doing no makeup 80 00:03:52,874 --> 00:03:56,194 Speaker 5: at all, exactly stitch and making like that's almost her 81 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:58,994 Speaker 5: brand now. She is the face of currently an active 82 00:03:58,994 --> 00:04:03,714 Speaker 5: were brand purposely being completely no makeup. They're making a 83 00:04:03,754 --> 00:04:07,674 Speaker 5: whole deal of the fact that she is perfectly imperfect. 84 00:04:07,394 --> 00:04:08,834 Speaker 1: As she is no AI. 85 00:04:09,274 --> 00:04:11,514 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I feel like in some ways 86 00:04:11,634 --> 00:04:15,234 Speaker 5: it's like this new you know, really done done makeup, 87 00:04:15,474 --> 00:04:18,553 Speaker 5: and then on the flip side, you can do nothing 88 00:04:18,594 --> 00:04:21,873 Speaker 5: and do nothing. Yeah, It's quite refreshing. In a way, 89 00:04:22,714 --> 00:04:25,993 Speaker 5: it's like, no makeup is not as much of a 90 00:04:26,034 --> 00:04:28,033 Speaker 5: statement as it used to be, exactly. 91 00:04:28,433 --> 00:04:30,914 Speaker 2: It feels more almost that it's a statement the other 92 00:04:30,953 --> 00:04:33,594 Speaker 2: way now, whereas like you used to see everybody done 93 00:04:33,674 --> 00:04:35,713 Speaker 2: up on the red carp but everyone's go smoky, everyone's 94 00:04:35,753 --> 00:04:38,394 Speaker 2: doing something special with their makeup. Now when somebody like 95 00:04:38,513 --> 00:04:40,394 Speaker 2: Zendea steps out twice in a row with a look 96 00:04:40,474 --> 00:04:42,193 Speaker 2: like this, like you stop and you notice it. And 97 00:04:42,234 --> 00:04:44,553 Speaker 2: probably that's also part of the strategy totally. 98 00:04:44,594 --> 00:04:48,633 Speaker 5: Because also Euphoria is coming right any day now, and 99 00:04:48,674 --> 00:04:50,433 Speaker 5: I think we're going to see a lot more of 100 00:04:50,513 --> 00:04:53,273 Speaker 5: this makeup off the back of that. Obviously she's now 101 00:04:53,274 --> 00:04:56,794 Speaker 5: on her press tool for Euphoria and the drama, So 102 00:04:57,633 --> 00:04:59,514 Speaker 5: watch this space. We can see a lot. 103 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:00,033 Speaker 1: More, exactly. 104 00:05:00,113 --> 00:05:02,753 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what Donnie Davie does I season. 105 00:05:03,234 --> 00:05:07,394 Speaker 5: All right, So, Cass, we have noticed something, and that 106 00:05:07,594 --> 00:05:10,633 Speaker 5: is that pimple patches are going public. 107 00:05:10,953 --> 00:05:13,713 Speaker 2: They're actually becoming a fashion statement. They are like I'm 108 00:05:13,753 --> 00:05:15,593 Speaker 2: not confident enough to do this, but I want to 109 00:05:15,594 --> 00:05:16,433 Speaker 2: be me too. 110 00:05:16,674 --> 00:05:20,274 Speaker 5: So what we have spotted is that Hailey Biber has 111 00:05:20,354 --> 00:05:24,993 Speaker 5: spots and she is wearing road pimple patches. Seen it 112 00:05:25,034 --> 00:05:27,153 Speaker 5: on our Instagram and of course now we've seen. 113 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:29,474 Speaker 2: That she designed them with Justin Bieber, with her husband. 114 00:05:29,633 --> 00:05:33,914 Speaker 2: They're obviously hydrocloi patches, but they come in mushrooms, little daisies, 115 00:05:33,953 --> 00:05:37,193 Speaker 2: jelly beans, very fun, very playful. I mean, it's not 116 00:05:37,234 --> 00:05:38,993 Speaker 2: something we haven't seen done before. There are a lot 117 00:05:39,034 --> 00:05:42,033 Speaker 2: of brands that do this, but obviously once Road does something, 118 00:05:42,034 --> 00:05:43,953 Speaker 2: then everyone's talking about it as a fashion statement. 119 00:05:44,274 --> 00:05:44,474 Speaker 3: Yeah. 120 00:05:44,714 --> 00:05:46,914 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been happening for a while. 121 00:05:47,513 --> 00:05:50,394 Speaker 5: The Breakout Hack, which used to be known as TVH, 122 00:05:51,234 --> 00:05:54,993 Speaker 5: they kind of had these pimple patches that initially started 123 00:05:55,034 --> 00:05:57,594 Speaker 5: out as the nude ones that you couldn't see, and 124 00:05:57,633 --> 00:06:00,513 Speaker 5: then they did designs. You know, we've seen brands like 125 00:06:00,553 --> 00:06:02,714 Speaker 5: staff Face also have little stickers. 126 00:06:02,794 --> 00:06:05,193 Speaker 2: I love the skin control ones. Actually, they have so 127 00:06:05,354 --> 00:06:07,274 Speaker 2: many good ones and they're really really cheap. Are in 128 00:06:07,354 --> 00:06:09,873 Speaker 2: like Chemist Warehouse, I think, Yeah, Ricetline they have like 129 00:06:09,873 --> 00:06:12,553 Speaker 2: little smilies, a little hearts, and it's so cute at 130 00:06:12,594 --> 00:06:13,993 Speaker 2: home and you do your skin care to be like, 131 00:06:14,034 --> 00:06:16,713 Speaker 2: oh I have a pimple. Okay, we accept that, you know, 132 00:06:16,714 --> 00:06:18,714 Speaker 2: it's fine. But they have a cute little smiley to 133 00:06:18,714 --> 00:06:21,193 Speaker 2: put on it. But I think the interesting part is 134 00:06:21,193 --> 00:06:24,273 Speaker 2: when that then gets walked outside into the rest of 135 00:06:24,513 --> 00:06:27,633 Speaker 2: the world, because it's almost like, hey, I have a 136 00:06:27,633 --> 00:06:31,674 Speaker 2: pimple and it's all good man like, which is amazing 137 00:06:31,714 --> 00:06:33,873 Speaker 2: and I think absolutely the direction that we need to 138 00:06:33,873 --> 00:06:36,754 Speaker 2: head when we catch talking about acne. But yeah, it's 139 00:06:36,834 --> 00:06:38,513 Speaker 2: it's it's a statement when you walk out with the 140 00:06:38,513 --> 00:06:39,753 Speaker 2: big smiley on your face. 141 00:06:39,953 --> 00:06:41,873 Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a few people in the office that 142 00:06:42,234 --> 00:06:42,794 Speaker 5: wear them out. 143 00:06:42,834 --> 00:06:44,514 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's really cool. 144 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:49,993 Speaker 5: I personally have never been someone who can do I. 145 00:06:49,313 --> 00:06:51,194 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it next week, are you? I 146 00:06:51,234 --> 00:06:52,993 Speaker 2: think I'm going to do it next week because I 147 00:06:53,073 --> 00:06:55,033 Speaker 2: actually do think it looks cool and whenever I see it, 148 00:06:55,193 --> 00:06:57,274 Speaker 2: like you look so shy, yes, like I love this. 149 00:06:57,553 --> 00:07:00,514 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a pimple accessory. Yeah really, which 150 00:07:00,594 --> 00:07:02,073 Speaker 2: is what I kind of like as well, because at 151 00:07:02,113 --> 00:07:03,394 Speaker 2: the end of the day, we all are going to 152 00:07:03,393 --> 00:07:05,394 Speaker 2: suffer from hormonal breakouts. I have them right now in 153 00:07:05,474 --> 00:07:08,474 Speaker 2: my chin because my period. But it's like it doesn't 154 00:07:08,513 --> 00:07:09,833 Speaker 2: have to be this thing of like, oh, I have 155 00:07:09,874 --> 00:07:11,274 Speaker 2: a pimple. It's like, oh I got to wear my 156 00:07:11,314 --> 00:07:13,514 Speaker 2: cute little pimple patch. Now, Yeah, that's cute. 157 00:07:13,834 --> 00:07:14,914 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 158 00:07:15,274 --> 00:07:17,354 Speaker 2: And they're not the only patches people are wearing. They 159 00:07:17,393 --> 00:07:17,674 Speaker 2: are not. 160 00:07:18,194 --> 00:07:21,554 Speaker 5: So we've seen a massive growth in the under eye 161 00:07:21,634 --> 00:07:24,634 Speaker 5: patch market. In fact, sales are up over four hundred 162 00:07:24,674 --> 00:07:25,833 Speaker 5: percent males. 163 00:07:25,874 --> 00:07:29,754 Speaker 2: I've been marketed to one. Oh it's so bad. I 164 00:07:29,874 --> 00:07:33,754 Speaker 2: really like the James Ones, those like Gold ones them. 165 00:07:33,834 --> 00:07:37,114 Speaker 2: I ordered a bunch. I mean, I know, I can't stop. 166 00:07:37,154 --> 00:07:39,154 Speaker 2: I want to be I put on my little Actually 167 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:41,394 Speaker 2: this is so cringe, but I have a little list 168 00:07:41,434 --> 00:07:44,874 Speaker 2: of like tiktoki get ready with me songs, I do that, 169 00:07:44,953 --> 00:07:47,273 Speaker 2: I make my matcher, I put on my eye things. 170 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:51,153 Speaker 5: You want a lymphatic drainage board at the same time, wish. 171 00:07:51,194 --> 00:07:53,154 Speaker 2: But I have fully brought into this, and I actually 172 00:07:53,154 --> 00:07:55,274 Speaker 2: do think that they're doing things for my underreye area. 173 00:07:56,034 --> 00:07:59,314 Speaker 2: It's not just a fashion statement, although it is, as 174 00:07:59,354 --> 00:08:01,793 Speaker 2: we're about to say, become a fashion statement. 175 00:08:02,074 --> 00:08:05,354 Speaker 5: It has that have been round for ages. I'm a 176 00:08:05,434 --> 00:08:08,874 Speaker 5: longtime fan of the Real Housewife. They in every episode 177 00:08:08,874 --> 00:08:11,554 Speaker 5: are getting ready doing their glam wearing under eye patches, 178 00:08:11,714 --> 00:08:15,194 Speaker 5: and I am always adding to Kat for that very reason. 179 00:08:15,714 --> 00:08:18,194 Speaker 5: But it's more I think that they're just becoming kind 180 00:08:18,194 --> 00:08:21,114 Speaker 5: of maybe along the lines of the pimple patches, something 181 00:08:21,154 --> 00:08:23,914 Speaker 5: that people are like showing off that they do it. Yeah. 182 00:08:23,994 --> 00:08:27,514 Speaker 2: The girlipops are in pilates in the morning in the really, yes, 183 00:08:28,274 --> 00:08:30,194 Speaker 2: all the time, and I actually love it for them 184 00:08:30,234 --> 00:08:32,594 Speaker 2: because that's the perfect time to have your eye patches on. 185 00:08:32,914 --> 00:08:35,993 Speaker 5: I think more and more as we're seeing ourselves on screens, 186 00:08:36,394 --> 00:08:38,634 Speaker 5: and now as people probably are starting to work from 187 00:08:38,674 --> 00:08:40,474 Speaker 5: home a little bit more at the moment, given everything 188 00:08:40,474 --> 00:08:43,194 Speaker 5: that's going on in the world, we're back on screens 189 00:08:43,194 --> 00:08:44,874 Speaker 5: looking at ourselves and video calls. 190 00:08:44,994 --> 00:08:46,474 Speaker 3: We're seeing those under eyes. 191 00:08:46,634 --> 00:08:49,914 Speaker 5: I certainly am noticing mine, and I think we're just 192 00:08:50,114 --> 00:08:52,074 Speaker 5: kind of going, I'm going to pay a bit more 193 00:08:52,114 --> 00:08:52,874 Speaker 5: attention to this. 194 00:08:53,034 --> 00:08:55,634 Speaker 2: And it's also kind of like being transparent about the 195 00:08:55,714 --> 00:08:57,754 Speaker 2: self care things that we do for our skin. Like 196 00:08:58,074 --> 00:09:01,194 Speaker 2: previously you would have been maybe felt, i don't know, 197 00:09:01,394 --> 00:09:04,354 Speaker 2: not embarrassed, but like a little odd being outside in 198 00:09:04,354 --> 00:09:06,474 Speaker 2: the world with a patch on your skin of various 199 00:09:06,474 --> 00:09:08,874 Speaker 2: form speit, pin patch, an eye patch. But I really 200 00:09:08,914 --> 00:09:10,674 Speaker 2: think people are going, hey, this is me looking after 201 00:09:10,714 --> 00:09:13,274 Speaker 2: my skin. Nothing hard here, like yeah, And it's kind 202 00:09:13,314 --> 00:09:15,434 Speaker 2: of similar to what everyone's doing these days with the 203 00:09:15,714 --> 00:09:18,154 Speaker 2: you know, being really transparent about whatever they've done to 204 00:09:18,194 --> 00:09:20,914 Speaker 2: their faces. I just think that everyone's like, hey, let's 205 00:09:20,914 --> 00:09:22,953 Speaker 2: not hide this if I use a little eye patch. Yeah, 206 00:09:22,954 --> 00:09:23,874 Speaker 2: here's a little eye patch. 207 00:09:23,914 --> 00:09:27,514 Speaker 5: Yeah, embrace it. It's almost like a status symbol. I 208 00:09:27,554 --> 00:09:30,714 Speaker 5: think too. It almost goes back to the whole like 209 00:09:30,834 --> 00:09:33,594 Speaker 5: it's okay not to wear a makeup thing too. It's 210 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:37,194 Speaker 5: like the rise of skin influences, the rise of just 211 00:09:37,514 --> 00:09:40,914 Speaker 5: looking after your skin being the number one priority that 212 00:09:40,954 --> 00:09:44,154 Speaker 5: people have. This sort of goes hand in hand with that. Yes, 213 00:09:44,474 --> 00:09:45,594 Speaker 5: I'm really here for it. 214 00:09:45,634 --> 00:09:46,074 Speaker 3: I love it. 215 00:09:46,194 --> 00:09:48,833 Speaker 2: I'm so here for it too. As aforementioned, because I've 216 00:09:48,834 --> 00:09:52,274 Speaker 2: already brought into this trend, also persa, guys, you can 217 00:09:52,354 --> 00:09:55,674 Speaker 2: actually wear your eye patches either way. Some people like 218 00:09:55,754 --> 00:09:59,034 Speaker 2: to wear them with the thicker bit on the inside 219 00:09:59,154 --> 00:10:02,314 Speaker 2: if they get puffy around the tiered after area. I 220 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:05,034 Speaker 2: personally feel like I lack the point to bit on 221 00:10:05,074 --> 00:10:06,514 Speaker 2: the inside, and I like that, think a bit on 222 00:10:06,554 --> 00:10:08,954 Speaker 2: the edge around Crosby And I think that's like technically 223 00:10:09,354 --> 00:10:11,914 Speaker 2: the correct way. But that's not to say. Depending on 224 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:13,394 Speaker 2: your I shape that the other way, it may not 225 00:10:13,434 --> 00:10:14,954 Speaker 2: work for Yeah, So feel free to play around. 226 00:10:14,994 --> 00:10:17,274 Speaker 5: Maybe I should try the other way for the puffiness, 227 00:10:17,314 --> 00:10:20,914 Speaker 5: because the inside of my eye is currently getting quite puffy. 228 00:10:21,034 --> 00:10:22,194 Speaker 1: And then you might put it in the fridge. 229 00:10:22,234 --> 00:10:24,074 Speaker 2: In the fridge and it can be cold. 230 00:10:24,674 --> 00:10:25,074 Speaker 5: Cas. 231 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:26,154 Speaker 1: This is genius. 232 00:10:26,394 --> 00:10:27,594 Speaker 2: There we go, look at us. 233 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:29,994 Speaker 1: That is its your beauty edit today. 234 00:10:30,554 --> 00:10:31,634 Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of the show. 235 00:10:31,834 --> 00:10:33,754 Speaker 3: See yeah, I. 236 00:10:33,674 --> 00:10:35,834 Speaker 1: Couldn't help for wonder ask me anything. 237 00:10:35,914 --> 00:10:37,034 Speaker 2: You ask many questions? 238 00:10:38,754 --> 00:10:39,834 Speaker 5: Hello, hello? 239 00:10:40,194 --> 00:10:43,034 Speaker 3: Or are you you're dreaming a long blue gown? 240 00:10:43,074 --> 00:10:45,514 Speaker 1: And I do, but we're very tonal together today. 241 00:10:46,074 --> 00:10:48,234 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm wearing downim and blue when you wearing blue? Anyway, 242 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:49,713 Speaker 3: that's not what we're here for. Unless you want to 243 00:10:49,754 --> 00:10:51,434 Speaker 3: come back on to nothing to wear. I'd love to 244 00:10:51,474 --> 00:10:52,074 Speaker 3: have you back. 245 00:10:52,314 --> 00:10:54,914 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I love coming on every now and 246 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:55,914 Speaker 4: then talking about clothes. 247 00:10:55,954 --> 00:10:57,874 Speaker 1: Okay, but today, but today. 248 00:10:57,754 --> 00:11:01,074 Speaker 4: It is beauty time and we've got two fantastic questions. 249 00:11:01,154 --> 00:11:04,594 Speaker 4: If you do have a question, you can DM us 250 00:11:04,754 --> 00:11:06,954 Speaker 4: or email us. We'll put everything in the show notes 251 00:11:06,954 --> 00:11:08,514 Speaker 4: because the links to. 252 00:11:08,594 --> 00:11:09,194 Speaker 3: Get to us. 253 00:11:09,274 --> 00:11:12,274 Speaker 4: Yeah, because we really love answering your questions. 254 00:11:12,314 --> 00:11:13,994 Speaker 3: And if you send a voice note so you can 255 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,554 Speaker 3: recorder on your phone and send it via a demail email, 256 00:11:17,154 --> 00:11:20,794 Speaker 3: we will definitely answer it because people will these days. Yeah, 257 00:11:21,154 --> 00:11:23,274 Speaker 3: we like hearing it different voices, so it's not always 258 00:11:23,314 --> 00:11:24,194 Speaker 3: that rat alone. 259 00:11:24,234 --> 00:11:25,834 Speaker 1: We can edit it down exactly. 260 00:11:26,034 --> 00:11:30,714 Speaker 4: But first things first, let's hear from our menopausal queen. 261 00:11:30,874 --> 00:11:32,874 Speaker 3: I might read it see as I relate to this 262 00:11:32,954 --> 00:11:36,994 Speaker 3: lovely lady. So Rebecca slid into our DMS and she said, hey, 263 00:11:37,034 --> 00:11:40,154 Speaker 3: there you absolutely beautiful ladies. That's not even why I 264 00:11:40,154 --> 00:11:42,514 Speaker 3: picked this one. I was just wondering if you have 265 00:11:42,674 --> 00:11:46,834 Speaker 3: done anything with regards to menopausal skin that's affordable. I 266 00:11:46,834 --> 00:11:49,314 Speaker 3: would love to see or hear it. Thanks for the 267 00:11:49,354 --> 00:11:50,994 Speaker 3: great content you always give. 268 00:11:51,194 --> 00:11:56,194 Speaker 4: So Asley mentioned it affects what you have more experience 269 00:11:56,514 --> 00:11:57,834 Speaker 4: with menopausal skin. 270 00:11:58,074 --> 00:12:02,713 Speaker 3: And Perry menopause. Yeah, do you know a fact about menopause? 271 00:12:03,594 --> 00:12:07,474 Speaker 3: Menopause is officially three hundred and sixty five days after 272 00:12:07,514 --> 00:12:09,594 Speaker 3: your last period. It's a one day it goes. If 273 00:12:09,634 --> 00:12:11,833 Speaker 3: you haven't had a period for a whole calendar year, 274 00:12:12,034 --> 00:12:13,394 Speaker 3: you're officially in menopause. 275 00:12:13,554 --> 00:12:14,954 Speaker 4: But what if you haven't had a period for a 276 00:12:14,954 --> 00:12:17,314 Speaker 4: whole calendar year because you're on the pill or you're breastfeeding. 277 00:12:17,714 --> 00:12:21,154 Speaker 3: Oh, when you're like twenty seven mile, like when you've 278 00:12:21,154 --> 00:12:23,434 Speaker 3: bet you're going through perimenopause, and trust me, you'll know 279 00:12:23,754 --> 00:12:24,514 Speaker 3: your period goes. 280 00:12:25,314 --> 00:12:30,474 Speaker 4: I've been working with you through your wait, the sweat. 281 00:12:30,114 --> 00:12:31,634 Speaker 3: The sweat, Oh my god, I know the sweat. I 282 00:12:31,714 --> 00:12:34,354 Speaker 3: mean yeah, anyway, and then when it's been a full 283 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:37,114 Speaker 3: calendar year, that's technically when you hit And then when 284 00:12:37,114 --> 00:12:38,954 Speaker 3: it's been a full calendar year, that's technically when you 285 00:12:39,034 --> 00:12:43,874 Speaker 3: hit menopause. Okay, I hear paused. Okay, anyway, I would 286 00:12:43,954 --> 00:12:46,594 Speaker 3: like you to go first on this answer, and then 287 00:12:46,634 --> 00:12:47,114 Speaker 3: I will come. 288 00:12:47,194 --> 00:12:49,954 Speaker 4: Well, Lee is going to get more into the science 289 00:12:49,954 --> 00:12:52,714 Speaker 4: of what actually happens to your skin through that big 290 00:12:52,754 --> 00:12:53,594 Speaker 4: hormonal shift. 291 00:12:53,674 --> 00:12:54,874 Speaker 1: But I just want to start. 292 00:12:54,634 --> 00:12:57,594 Speaker 4: Off with saying like, obviously, I don't know that much 293 00:12:57,634 --> 00:13:01,634 Speaker 4: about perimenopause and menopause, so it's quite hard to comment 294 00:13:01,674 --> 00:13:04,314 Speaker 4: on when it's something that I haven't experienced. But what 295 00:13:04,394 --> 00:13:06,953 Speaker 4: I have seen with a lot of brands that are 296 00:13:07,194 --> 00:13:12,634 Speaker 4: releasing different ranges or products within and this isn't the rule, 297 00:13:12,994 --> 00:13:14,833 Speaker 4: like there are exceptions to rule, but a lot of 298 00:13:14,834 --> 00:13:17,914 Speaker 4: brands that are doing are releasing things that are kind 299 00:13:17,954 --> 00:13:22,594 Speaker 4: of like, oh, you know, premenopausal or menopausal skincare, and 300 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:26,834 Speaker 4: it is similar to pregnancy safe skin care. Or clean 301 00:13:26,954 --> 00:13:29,954 Speaker 4: beauty where it's just like buzzwords and marketing, but there's 302 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:33,874 Speaker 4: actually not much different to the actual product. Like, of 303 00:13:33,874 --> 00:13:36,754 Speaker 4: course your skin changes, not everyone's does, but of course 304 00:13:36,754 --> 00:13:40,074 Speaker 4: your skin is going to change. My mom's didn't, so 305 00:13:40,154 --> 00:13:43,154 Speaker 4: not everyone's. But she also didn't get any symptoms wild. 306 00:13:43,634 --> 00:13:45,394 Speaker 4: I think it's because like she had cancer, so that 307 00:13:45,514 --> 00:13:49,634 Speaker 4: like they and everything, and she had a hysterectomy, so 308 00:13:49,714 --> 00:13:50,674 Speaker 4: everything was just anyway. 309 00:13:50,994 --> 00:13:52,954 Speaker 1: She's an exception to the rule. Most people do. 310 00:13:53,514 --> 00:13:55,994 Speaker 4: But of course your skin is going to change, like 311 00:13:56,034 --> 00:13:59,474 Speaker 4: it does with any hormonal fluctuation. That doesn't necessarily mean 312 00:13:59,474 --> 00:14:01,394 Speaker 4: that you need to buy menopausal. 313 00:14:01,594 --> 00:14:03,474 Speaker 3: Yes, there aren't products that don't have it on the 314 00:14:03,554 --> 00:14:06,234 Speaker 3: label that won't be going exactly totally agree with you. 315 00:14:06,234 --> 00:14:08,114 Speaker 3: Look I I and I thought it was funny. The 316 00:14:08,194 --> 00:14:10,794 Speaker 3: last few years, you're starting to see it actually in marketing. 317 00:14:10,874 --> 00:14:14,594 Speaker 3: That's yeah. And at first I was like, oh, come on, guys, 318 00:14:14,674 --> 00:14:16,953 Speaker 3: like the pink tax. You know, we're already paying more 319 00:14:16,994 --> 00:14:19,514 Speaker 3: for raises, and you know, there's a forty five steps 320 00:14:19,554 --> 00:14:21,754 Speaker 3: for your elbows if you want, and menus use one product. 321 00:14:22,434 --> 00:14:24,394 Speaker 3: I thought that, and that's also true as long as 322 00:14:24,474 --> 00:14:27,514 Speaker 3: you know what you're looking for in terms of ingredients, 323 00:14:27,554 --> 00:14:30,474 Speaker 3: how your skin's changed, and essentially the changes you need 324 00:14:30,554 --> 00:14:33,034 Speaker 3: to make. Then you don't need to buy a product 325 00:14:33,074 --> 00:14:35,634 Speaker 3: that's labeled menopause perimenopause. But I think it does help 326 00:14:35,674 --> 00:14:36,514 Speaker 3: cut down the noise. 327 00:14:36,994 --> 00:14:40,194 Speaker 4: Also, before I forget, we will link the episode that 328 00:14:40,194 --> 00:14:44,314 Speaker 4: we did with doctor Ginny Oh my arm in one 329 00:14:44,354 --> 00:14:47,234 Speaker 4: of my products recommendations is from her line amazing. She 330 00:14:47,674 --> 00:14:50,714 Speaker 4: talks about this more in depth from a science background. 331 00:14:50,754 --> 00:14:52,994 Speaker 3: Yeah, the real doctor. I know I sound like one, 332 00:14:53,034 --> 00:14:56,234 Speaker 3: but I believe it or not, you're not. I'm a 333 00:14:56,274 --> 00:14:58,994 Speaker 3: doctor of good times. So basically I'll give you a 334 00:14:59,034 --> 00:15:01,954 Speaker 3: little rundown. Again, I'm not a scientist, but I am 335 00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:07,554 Speaker 3: forty four. I'm in perimenopause. I started hormonal replacement, oh god, 336 00:15:07,954 --> 00:15:10,354 Speaker 3: maybe eighteen months ago, and then my mum was really sick. 337 00:15:10,354 --> 00:15:11,834 Speaker 3: I ran out of my scripts, didn't have time to 338 00:15:11,874 --> 00:15:13,834 Speaker 3: go back blah blah blah blah. So I've only just 339 00:15:13,874 --> 00:15:15,354 Speaker 3: gone back on it, and let me tell you, it 340 00:15:15,354 --> 00:15:17,274 Speaker 3: does really make a difference. But that's something to talk 341 00:15:17,274 --> 00:15:20,474 Speaker 3: about with your doctor. Topically, though, there are some things 342 00:15:20,474 --> 00:15:24,194 Speaker 3: you can do, so gus, get a period. Yes, I'm 343 00:15:24,234 --> 00:15:27,154 Speaker 3: pary like, I'm very normal. I'm just I'm insane. I'm 344 00:15:27,234 --> 00:15:30,634 Speaker 3: sensitive and sore. My skin is really sensitive. It's not 345 00:15:30,674 --> 00:15:32,794 Speaker 3: like it used to be. It's really weird. And you know, 346 00:15:32,834 --> 00:15:36,794 Speaker 3: there's fifty three symptoms of perimenopause before it shows up 347 00:15:36,794 --> 00:15:39,194 Speaker 3: on your bloods, so everyone thinks you're gonna be in 348 00:15:39,234 --> 00:15:41,634 Speaker 3: your bloods. But anyway, that's for doctors to talk about 349 00:15:41,794 --> 00:15:44,994 Speaker 3: quick estrogen lesson as it you know, affects the skin, 350 00:15:45,594 --> 00:15:48,314 Speaker 3: so the skin is regulated by estrogen as well as 351 00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:52,594 Speaker 3: a million other things. And so before perimenopause, like you, 352 00:15:52,714 --> 00:15:55,674 Speaker 3: my friend, estrogen goes in there and says, hey, guys, 353 00:15:55,714 --> 00:15:58,114 Speaker 3: you know, let's keep you thick and hydrated and firm, 354 00:15:58,154 --> 00:16:01,754 Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, thanks. And that supports collagen production obviously, 355 00:16:02,114 --> 00:16:05,794 Speaker 3: and oil production, which is important to be youthful and 356 00:16:05,834 --> 00:16:07,634 Speaker 3: not dry. You know, think of an olive in a 357 00:16:07,754 --> 00:16:11,434 Speaker 3: jar and repair repair important. Then hey, presto, ye me. 358 00:16:12,114 --> 00:16:15,114 Speaker 3: You know, perimenopause can start anywhere from you know, late thirties. 359 00:16:14,754 --> 00:16:16,114 Speaker 1: And it's a ten year process. 360 00:16:16,394 --> 00:16:19,794 Speaker 3: You know, on average, estrogen drops and it drops quite quickly, 361 00:16:19,874 --> 00:16:21,594 Speaker 3: like it's not happening overnight, but it's probably one of 362 00:16:21,594 --> 00:16:24,274 Speaker 3: the most rapid changes within your body and your skin 363 00:16:24,314 --> 00:16:27,514 Speaker 3: aside from pregnancy, and so then all those signals really 364 00:16:27,554 --> 00:16:29,434 Speaker 3: slow down. You know, you're driving on a freeway at 365 00:16:29,474 --> 00:16:31,074 Speaker 3: one hundred and then you hit a fifty zone and 366 00:16:31,114 --> 00:16:32,634 Speaker 3: you're like, whoa. You know how that's hard to get 367 00:16:32,714 --> 00:16:36,754 Speaker 3: used to. So then the collagen production decreases, skin produces 368 00:16:36,834 --> 00:16:41,354 Speaker 3: less oil, and it doesn't hold onto water as well. 369 00:16:41,434 --> 00:16:44,154 Speaker 3: So that's why you know we talk about dry skin 370 00:16:44,234 --> 00:16:46,314 Speaker 3: or dehydrated skin. You're kind of both because you don't 371 00:16:46,354 --> 00:16:47,914 Speaker 3: have your oil production and you're not holding onto the 372 00:16:47,914 --> 00:16:51,674 Speaker 3: water as well, so the barrier weakens, repair slows. It 373 00:16:51,754 --> 00:16:54,474 Speaker 3: sounds really bad. It's not that bad. It's just probably 374 00:16:54,554 --> 00:16:57,474 Speaker 3: quite different to what you're used to. I mean, for me, 375 00:16:57,634 --> 00:17:02,474 Speaker 3: particularly as a combination sometimes oily, it's been a rapid change. 376 00:17:02,754 --> 00:17:07,553 Speaker 3: So I was like, stop labeling things as menopause. I 377 00:17:07,634 --> 00:17:10,154 Speaker 3: know what I need because I work in the industry. 378 00:17:10,154 --> 00:17:11,474 Speaker 3: But then I was thinking, you know, if you're just 379 00:17:11,554 --> 00:17:13,994 Speaker 3: the average gal gone through it and you're like, hang on, 380 00:17:14,354 --> 00:17:16,514 Speaker 3: why are my products irritating me now or not being 381 00:17:16,594 --> 00:17:19,114 Speaker 3: hydrating enough, it can be hard to then know what 382 00:17:19,154 --> 00:17:21,034 Speaker 3: to look for if you've not been looking for products 383 00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:23,954 Speaker 3: of that texture or in that category. So basically what 384 00:17:23,994 --> 00:17:27,234 Speaker 3: you want to do is tone down the harsh actives 385 00:17:27,314 --> 00:17:29,154 Speaker 3: or full on actives. There might be products that you 386 00:17:29,234 --> 00:17:31,874 Speaker 3: could tolerate before, or loved before your skin loved that 387 00:17:31,994 --> 00:17:34,634 Speaker 3: just can't tolerate it anymore because as we know, with actives, 388 00:17:34,674 --> 00:17:36,513 Speaker 3: so good until you go over the top, and then 389 00:17:36,554 --> 00:17:39,674 Speaker 3: it kind of is a counterproduction. Skin does that, it 390 00:17:39,674 --> 00:17:42,554 Speaker 3: does the opposite, yeah, exactly. So we're looking for seramides 391 00:17:42,634 --> 00:17:45,634 Speaker 3: because they're really I mean, you'll go great in perry 392 00:17:45,634 --> 00:17:48,834 Speaker 3: because you love all these products. Seramides will rebuild the barrier, 393 00:17:48,834 --> 00:17:51,554 Speaker 3: protect the barrier. Hyaluronic acid that's going to hydrate and plump, 394 00:17:51,554 --> 00:17:54,194 Speaker 3: because we want to do the sandwiching nice cinemid which 395 00:17:54,234 --> 00:17:57,274 Speaker 3: is calming and strengthening, which I currently while I'm going 396 00:17:57,274 --> 00:17:59,834 Speaker 3: through this phase of cranky skin, have switched out my 397 00:17:59,874 --> 00:18:04,394 Speaker 3: vitamin C for nicinamide peptides that support collagen obviously, and 398 00:18:04,434 --> 00:18:07,634 Speaker 3: then squalene or fatty acid. So they're like real your 399 00:18:07,634 --> 00:18:09,313 Speaker 3: barrier balms and they're going to lock it in and 400 00:18:09,314 --> 00:18:09,874 Speaker 3: make it bounce. 401 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:10,033 Speaker 5: Here. 402 00:18:10,594 --> 00:18:12,714 Speaker 3: However, we don't say whatever, it's just a process that 403 00:18:12,714 --> 00:18:14,954 Speaker 3: we go through. But we're kind of turning our nose 404 00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:17,714 Speaker 3: up the fact that brands are now marketing to this 405 00:18:18,434 --> 00:18:21,793 Speaker 3: demographic age group. The University of Manchester has done a 406 00:18:21,954 --> 00:18:25,714 Speaker 3: twenty years study, with the last five years being focused 407 00:18:25,754 --> 00:18:29,554 Speaker 3: on aging menopausal skin changes, a narrative review of skin 408 00:18:29,634 --> 00:18:32,354 Speaker 3: quality changes and their aesthetic impact. So we'll link to 409 00:18:32,394 --> 00:18:33,954 Speaker 3: that study in the show notes if you'd like to read. 410 00:18:33,994 --> 00:18:38,394 Speaker 3: It's very dry, but basically it just finds that menopausal 411 00:18:38,474 --> 00:18:40,954 Speaker 3: skin aging is not just normal aging. So you know, 412 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:43,354 Speaker 3: a man will skin will age, and you'll get sun 413 00:18:43,394 --> 00:18:45,994 Speaker 3: spots and lack of elasticity and all of that sort 414 00:18:45,994 --> 00:18:49,474 Speaker 3: of thing. But when a woman goes through perimenopause, it's different. 415 00:18:49,834 --> 00:18:52,914 Speaker 3: The estrogen drops rapidly, as I said, so it kind 416 00:18:52,954 --> 00:18:55,954 Speaker 3: of does need a tailored approach. So if you do 417 00:18:55,954 --> 00:18:58,634 Speaker 3: all those ingredients, great, but then there's another ingredient that 418 00:18:59,074 --> 00:19:04,634 Speaker 3: can really help, and they're estrogen supporting specific ingredients called phytoestrogens. 419 00:19:05,034 --> 00:19:08,474 Speaker 3: So it's your products like soy ice, so flavors, red clover, 420 00:19:08,994 --> 00:19:11,154 Speaker 3: they're two examples, and what they do is they work 421 00:19:11,194 --> 00:19:15,234 Speaker 3: by mimicking the job that estrogen does in their skin topically, 422 00:19:15,274 --> 00:19:18,434 Speaker 3: but it's not a hormone number seven Menopause Skincare Nourishing 423 00:19:18,474 --> 00:19:21,594 Speaker 3: Overnight Cream fifty nine ninety nine. I have done a 424 00:19:21,634 --> 00:19:24,394 Speaker 3: partnership with them. I when they approached me, I was like, Oh, 425 00:19:24,434 --> 00:19:27,074 Speaker 3: I don't love the marketing because it's like, great, another 426 00:19:27,074 --> 00:19:29,754 Speaker 3: thing I have to buy as a woman being told 427 00:19:29,754 --> 00:19:33,794 Speaker 3: what to do. It's fabulous. You will like it's great 428 00:19:33,874 --> 00:19:36,234 Speaker 3: for everyone, not just it's great for everyone. You know, 429 00:19:36,274 --> 00:19:39,114 Speaker 3: if you're eighteen and you like that moisturize, so that's fine. 430 00:19:39,114 --> 00:19:41,553 Speaker 3: But they do have these quite specific ingredients that have 431 00:19:41,674 --> 00:19:44,834 Speaker 3: shown to basically kind of yeah, they mimic the job 432 00:19:44,834 --> 00:19:46,513 Speaker 3: of what estrogen does, kind of like how whever we 433 00:19:46,554 --> 00:19:49,194 Speaker 3: take collagen, it goes in and like tells the amino 434 00:19:49,194 --> 00:19:50,994 Speaker 3: acids what to do. This kind of goes in and 435 00:19:50,994 --> 00:19:52,714 Speaker 3: goes hey, guys, remember how Eastern used to tell you 436 00:19:52,714 --> 00:19:54,273 Speaker 3: to do this? Well, can you just keep doing it 437 00:19:54,314 --> 00:19:57,074 Speaker 3: a little bit sort of thing. Antipity is Jasmine Flower 438 00:19:57,074 --> 00:20:01,793 Speaker 3: Menopause Facial Cream sixty nine ninety nine, Sauce Naturals Phytoestrogen 439 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:04,434 Speaker 3: Cream forty two on Amazon. Did I order that? When 440 00:20:04,474 --> 00:20:08,114 Speaker 3: I was researching Yes, Synergy Skin Press Pause Milk Skin 441 00:20:08,234 --> 00:20:10,394 Speaker 3: Concentrate one hundred and fifty five dollars, so they're all 442 00:20:10,394 --> 00:20:14,634 Speaker 3: specifically formulated for this life stage with those fider estrogens 443 00:20:14,674 --> 00:20:17,194 Speaker 3: as well as all those other ingredients I mentioned. And 444 00:20:17,234 --> 00:20:20,234 Speaker 3: then our beautiful doctor Ginny. I mean, she is just 445 00:20:20,234 --> 00:20:22,474 Speaker 3: phenomenal and if you don't listen to Unleashed, she's on 446 00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:27,154 Speaker 3: that and she's brilliant. She has a whole range for teenagers, 447 00:20:27,194 --> 00:20:29,834 Speaker 3: whatever you're going through. It's got perimenopause and menopause products. 448 00:20:29,834 --> 00:20:33,394 Speaker 3: But my favorite is the Kitch because again here's a 449 00:20:33,434 --> 00:20:36,394 Speaker 3: lot going on, so just get the EESK Menopause Sensitive 450 00:20:36,434 --> 00:20:38,354 Speaker 3: Skin Kit. It's roughly three hundred dollars. It's kind of 451 00:20:38,394 --> 00:20:41,754 Speaker 3: different prices and different sizes, but that is your full regime, 452 00:20:42,114 --> 00:20:45,074 Speaker 3: covering kind of everything from cleansing right through to moisturization. 453 00:20:45,194 --> 00:20:48,354 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's full on. But again, if you've got 454 00:20:48,434 --> 00:20:50,714 Speaker 3: I think particularly for you as a dry person, you 455 00:20:50,794 --> 00:20:53,154 Speaker 3: are already well versed and have great products that are 456 00:20:53,194 --> 00:20:54,354 Speaker 3: super nourishing and repairing. 457 00:20:54,554 --> 00:20:57,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like I will be going from oily 458 00:20:57,474 --> 00:20:58,994 Speaker 1: to then Oh my god, what right? 459 00:20:59,314 --> 00:21:01,834 Speaker 3: That's so I've always been, you know, really light on hydration. 460 00:21:02,474 --> 00:21:04,794 Speaker 3: My skin was quite resilient because of the oil, so 461 00:21:04,834 --> 00:21:06,273 Speaker 3: I didn't have to. You know, I could go crazy 462 00:21:06,274 --> 00:21:08,674 Speaker 3: onto the active, so it's quite different for me. But yeah, 463 00:21:08,754 --> 00:21:11,273 Speaker 3: just look for those lovely ingredients. Basically rule of thumb, 464 00:21:11,874 --> 00:21:14,114 Speaker 3: dial back the actives. If you use quite a strong one, 465 00:21:14,114 --> 00:21:16,914 Speaker 3: maybe drop down to a different percentage and just hydration 466 00:21:16,994 --> 00:21:20,914 Speaker 3: and barrier repair and keep your sunscreen up because everything's sensitive. 467 00:21:21,754 --> 00:21:24,994 Speaker 3: You've got so much shocked forward to my friend, Oh well, 468 00:21:25,154 --> 00:21:28,073 Speaker 3: just part of aging gracefully. I went through minutapause at 469 00:21:28,074 --> 00:21:30,674 Speaker 3: thirty seven, so you know, I know, so I feel 470 00:21:30,714 --> 00:21:33,033 Speaker 3: like I'm quite lucky. Though, yeah, you went through it 471 00:21:33,114 --> 00:21:35,634 Speaker 3: later then, well I'm not finished yet, but yeah, and 472 00:21:35,714 --> 00:21:39,434 Speaker 3: they say that you follow Yeah, your mum's that's what 473 00:21:39,474 --> 00:21:40,034 Speaker 3: doctor Jinny. 474 00:21:40,034 --> 00:21:41,794 Speaker 4: Because I was like, my husband told me that he reckons. 475 00:21:41,834 --> 00:21:43,793 Speaker 4: I'm in Perry And she was like, when did your 476 00:21:43,834 --> 00:21:44,434 Speaker 4: mum go through it? 477 00:21:44,434 --> 00:21:46,594 Speaker 3: And all because you were cranky out for a legitimate 478 00:21:46,634 --> 00:21:48,874 Speaker 3: I was in hinky moody and I get night sweats 479 00:21:48,914 --> 00:21:50,833 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm cranky moody and I've had 480 00:21:50,914 --> 00:21:53,394 Speaker 3: night sweats literally my time. Yeah, oh my god, the night. 481 00:21:53,474 --> 00:21:55,034 Speaker 3: So sometimes I wake up and I was like, did 482 00:21:55,074 --> 00:21:57,594 Speaker 3: I like sleep? It's just going to be swim my 483 00:21:57,754 --> 00:21:58,474 Speaker 3: entire life. 484 00:21:58,914 --> 00:22:00,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're sweaty girls. We're sweaty. 485 00:22:00,674 --> 00:22:02,874 Speaker 3: Well hopefully that helps, but yeah, jump online and just 486 00:22:02,914 --> 00:22:05,594 Speaker 3: google literally, go into the forums, go onto the UID 487 00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:07,394 Speaker 3: Facebook group. Reddit is really helpful for the sort of 488 00:22:07,394 --> 00:22:09,074 Speaker 3: stuff because you'll just find people. 489 00:22:09,234 --> 00:22:10,514 Speaker 1: Talking about their own experiences. 490 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:13,034 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're you know, your type of skin type 491 00:22:13,074 --> 00:22:15,234 Speaker 3: and then what they've done. So that's really helpful. 492 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:18,234 Speaker 4: After the break, if you're looking at my hair right 493 00:22:18,274 --> 00:22:20,234 Speaker 4: now and thinking, my my, mi, how does she get 494 00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:21,954 Speaker 4: that volume? Will I'm going to give you some of 495 00:22:21,954 --> 00:22:23,354 Speaker 4: my favorite tips and tricks. 496 00:22:28,194 --> 00:22:29,874 Speaker 3: So April needs your help. 497 00:22:29,954 --> 00:22:34,314 Speaker 4: Kelly April in April, Oh. 498 00:22:33,034 --> 00:22:35,154 Speaker 3: My gosh, I hope May writes in next month. May, 499 00:22:35,234 --> 00:22:38,394 Speaker 3: can you write in an autumn? You've got all autumn? 500 00:22:38,514 --> 00:22:39,954 Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir gosh? 501 00:22:39,954 --> 00:22:43,434 Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, Hi, April girls, is volume a myth? My 502 00:22:43,554 --> 00:22:46,554 Speaker 3: hair always falls flat, like literally within an hour of 503 00:22:46,554 --> 00:22:48,874 Speaker 3: me doing it. If I try and do like a 504 00:22:48,914 --> 00:22:50,954 Speaker 3: blob out at home, it looks good until I leave 505 00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:52,674 Speaker 3: the house and then just drops and goes a bit 506 00:22:52,754 --> 00:22:55,994 Speaker 3: limp question mark, question mark does everyone else really have 507 00:22:56,114 --> 00:22:58,114 Speaker 3: that bouncy seal on here that lasts all day? Am I? 508 00:22:58,194 --> 00:23:00,314 Speaker 3: The only one doing it wrong? Is it the products 509 00:23:00,354 --> 00:23:02,034 Speaker 3: or my hair type? Or am I just really bad 510 00:23:02,034 --> 00:23:02,874 Speaker 3: at it? Loll help. 511 00:23:03,154 --> 00:23:05,354 Speaker 1: It could be either, it could be both. 512 00:23:06,074 --> 00:23:09,474 Speaker 4: So everyone has different hair types and some people are 513 00:23:10,354 --> 00:23:14,314 Speaker 4: more prone to just having limper. That sounds really bad though, 514 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:17,874 Speaker 4: Like I would just say fine soft soft, because it 515 00:23:17,914 --> 00:23:22,434 Speaker 4: always is. It's beautiful and soft to touch the hair. 516 00:23:22,674 --> 00:23:25,154 Speaker 3: Let's hair are you touching? That's not volumes but soft? 517 00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:28,474 Speaker 4: Ella's Oh our producer, La, she has got what you 518 00:23:28,514 --> 00:23:29,994 Speaker 4: would describe as limp. 519 00:23:30,074 --> 00:23:31,354 Speaker 1: Although that just sounds. 520 00:23:31,074 --> 00:23:34,634 Speaker 3: God, she just gave you the biggest backhanded compliment. I'm sorry. 521 00:23:34,954 --> 00:23:37,754 Speaker 4: What I mean is it doesn't have much volume, limps out. 522 00:23:37,834 --> 00:23:39,313 Speaker 4: This is why we need to reframe it because it 523 00:23:39,314 --> 00:23:41,954 Speaker 4: sounds awful. What I mean is it's just it sits there, 524 00:23:42,594 --> 00:23:44,634 Speaker 4: not volume. But it sounds bad too though. 525 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:48,954 Speaker 3: Well they were sounding it's just soft and soft is 526 00:23:48,954 --> 00:23:50,834 Speaker 3: not right? Softer texture volumes. 527 00:23:50,434 --> 00:23:52,914 Speaker 4: Of look but soft like soft on the head as well, 528 00:23:52,914 --> 00:23:55,474 Speaker 4: not big on the head, soft looking, soft looking. 529 00:23:56,274 --> 00:23:57,834 Speaker 1: How would you describe your hair anyway? 530 00:23:58,154 --> 00:24:00,074 Speaker 3: We're not offended, but I actually. 531 00:23:59,834 --> 00:24:01,234 Speaker 1: Need to know. How would you describe your hair? 532 00:24:01,834 --> 00:24:04,314 Speaker 3: Oh? My god? What if she thinks she's got really 533 00:24:04,394 --> 00:24:05,154 Speaker 3: lovely volume. 534 00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:07,874 Speaker 1: It's it's a bad way. 535 00:24:08,034 --> 00:24:10,554 Speaker 4: Like any When I think of limp hair, I think 536 00:24:10,554 --> 00:24:12,834 Speaker 4: of like, yeah, I don't want oily me too like 537 00:24:12,954 --> 00:24:15,074 Speaker 4: really greasy or too much product too. 538 00:24:15,194 --> 00:24:15,394 Speaker 1: Yeah. 539 00:24:15,554 --> 00:24:18,594 Speaker 4: Anyway, anyway, let's go back to our listener, because I'm 540 00:24:18,714 --> 00:24:24,634 Speaker 4: unsure it could be yeah, either or both. Firstly, let's 541 00:24:24,674 --> 00:24:27,914 Speaker 4: just pretend that maybe you actually do just have really 542 00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:31,634 Speaker 4: limp hair. I'm assuming she's got fine hair, like quite straight, 543 00:24:31,714 --> 00:24:34,834 Speaker 4: you know, or maybe not heaps of it. Yeah, true, 544 00:24:34,914 --> 00:24:39,834 Speaker 4: because different ethnicities have different textures. So basically is Chinese and. 545 00:24:39,754 --> 00:24:42,714 Speaker 3: Her hair is just so it's like touching silk, but 546 00:24:42,754 --> 00:24:44,634 Speaker 3: she just would never even try to get volume because 547 00:24:44,674 --> 00:24:46,114 Speaker 3: it just dries like a sheet. 548 00:24:45,874 --> 00:24:47,634 Speaker 1: Of oh beautiful. Yeah. 549 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:50,394 Speaker 4: So, but what I'm going to suggest will work for 550 00:24:50,474 --> 00:24:53,074 Speaker 4: you if you have a lot of hair and actually 551 00:24:53,154 --> 00:24:55,274 Speaker 4: naturally would have volume, but you're sort of going about 552 00:24:55,274 --> 00:24:57,634 Speaker 4: products the wrong way, or if you're not much hair, 553 00:24:57,714 --> 00:24:58,274 Speaker 4: or you know. 554 00:24:58,234 --> 00:25:01,474 Speaker 3: There's four categories of hair, if you have from wavy 555 00:25:01,514 --> 00:25:04,394 Speaker 3: to coily, you're probably not asking this question, you know, 556 00:25:04,474 --> 00:25:06,234 Speaker 3: I think you put in a volume. You're usually dealing 557 00:25:06,274 --> 00:25:09,394 Speaker 3: with frieze and tame. I'm assuming she's straight or perhaps 558 00:25:09,434 --> 00:25:10,474 Speaker 3: fine and waving yes. 559 00:25:10,594 --> 00:25:10,914 Speaker 1: Okay. 560 00:25:11,834 --> 00:25:15,354 Speaker 4: Firstly, what shampoo and conditioner are you using? Because a 561 00:25:15,434 --> 00:25:20,114 Speaker 4: lot of the protein based shampoo conditioners or things that 562 00:25:20,154 --> 00:25:24,033 Speaker 4: are really nourishing and that we purchase and that we 563 00:25:24,194 --> 00:25:26,354 Speaker 4: use because it makes our hair feel so nice, that 564 00:25:26,394 --> 00:25:29,634 Speaker 4: could potentially be weighing your head down though, because especially 565 00:25:29,674 --> 00:25:33,754 Speaker 4: with the protein products, it leaves build up on your hair. Yep. 566 00:25:34,154 --> 00:25:36,474 Speaker 3: So you like when you eat a steak and then 567 00:25:36,474 --> 00:25:38,273 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, because your body's digesting it, like your 568 00:25:38,274 --> 00:25:40,273 Speaker 3: hair is like you feel good because you've got so 569 00:25:40,354 --> 00:25:43,274 Speaker 3: much iron. Yeah, but it's like it's very like, oh yeah, 570 00:25:43,354 --> 00:25:46,714 Speaker 3: it weighs it down. Yeah, So make sure that you 571 00:25:46,834 --> 00:25:51,394 Speaker 3: are using a clarifying shampoo every four to five washes. 572 00:25:51,514 --> 00:25:53,474 Speaker 3: I would say, so I was gonna say once a 573 00:25:53,474 --> 00:25:55,194 Speaker 3: week or once a fortnight, but like it sort of 574 00:25:55,234 --> 00:25:56,994 Speaker 3: depends on how often you wash your hair, because once 575 00:25:57,034 --> 00:25:58,594 Speaker 3: a week. If you're only washing it twice a week, 576 00:25:58,874 --> 00:26:00,994 Speaker 3: that's too much. And you might even if you just 577 00:26:01,154 --> 00:26:03,594 Speaker 3: use protein products, right, it's just you know, product build 578 00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:05,434 Speaker 3: up regardless shampoo. 579 00:26:05,474 --> 00:26:08,714 Speaker 4: No matter what you use. I always suggest using a 580 00:26:08,754 --> 00:26:11,874 Speaker 4: clarifying shampoo every few washers. 581 00:26:11,994 --> 00:26:14,034 Speaker 1: And I notice the difference too. 582 00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:14,994 Speaker 3: I save mine for. 583 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,714 Speaker 4: Like when I want to feel here, So that also 584 00:26:17,714 --> 00:26:19,914 Speaker 4: will make sure you're getting rid of all of the oil, 585 00:26:19,994 --> 00:26:21,714 Speaker 4: all of the build up, because you might just be 586 00:26:22,274 --> 00:26:23,874 Speaker 4: cleaning it a little bit. Make sure that you're always 587 00:26:23,914 --> 00:26:26,394 Speaker 4: doing two shampoos, the first one to get rid of 588 00:26:26,554 --> 00:26:30,114 Speaker 4: actual product and product build up like dry shampoo, texturizing 589 00:26:30,114 --> 00:26:33,273 Speaker 4: sprayswet sweat, and then the second one to get rid 590 00:26:33,354 --> 00:26:40,234 Speaker 4: of oil bacteria, great actual scalp use volumeizing shampoo and conditioner. 591 00:26:40,314 --> 00:26:42,714 Speaker 4: So we talked about that a couple of weeks ago. 592 00:26:42,754 --> 00:26:45,474 Speaker 4: We will link the episode in the show notes because 593 00:26:45,474 --> 00:26:48,634 Speaker 4: we have suggestions for volumizing shampoo and conditioner that sort 594 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:52,194 Speaker 4: of like plump up the strands and make it feel yes, bigger, 595 00:26:52,234 --> 00:26:52,674 Speaker 4: because it's. 596 00:26:52,634 --> 00:26:54,634 Speaker 3: Kind of similar advice that Lovely Lady wanted to know 597 00:26:54,674 --> 00:26:56,994 Speaker 3: if there was anything they could make her hair grow thicker, 598 00:26:57,074 --> 00:26:58,634 Speaker 3: but we were like, no, but these products will make 599 00:26:58,674 --> 00:27:00,754 Speaker 3: it look thicker and feel ties into volume. 600 00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:04,434 Speaker 4: Make sure you're only using a very small amount of conditioner, 601 00:27:04,514 --> 00:27:08,274 Speaker 4: especially if your hair is well regardless, but from ears down, 602 00:27:08,674 --> 00:27:12,554 Speaker 4: do not use too much. I think by nature, especially 603 00:27:12,554 --> 00:27:15,513 Speaker 4: if you have quite dry hair. We think, oh I 604 00:27:15,594 --> 00:27:17,394 Speaker 4: need to put a lot of conditioner in. I need 605 00:27:17,434 --> 00:27:19,513 Speaker 4: to use a lot of product. No, you don't, I 606 00:27:19,514 --> 00:27:22,353 Speaker 4: would say use. I mean everyone is so different if 607 00:27:22,354 --> 00:27:24,793 Speaker 4: you need a cent piece, but I would it too 608 00:27:24,914 --> 00:27:29,234 Speaker 4: much max, Okay, actually maybe even ten cents on my hair, 609 00:27:29,234 --> 00:27:31,874 Speaker 4: because I don't you would be the same. I would say, Now, 610 00:27:32,034 --> 00:27:33,154 Speaker 4: fifty cents is a lot. 611 00:27:33,314 --> 00:27:36,914 Speaker 3: I love fifty cent um. No, because and then's what 612 00:27:36,954 --> 00:27:40,074 Speaker 3: productation as well, Because if you're just mindlessly shampooing and 613 00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:42,034 Speaker 3: then just sometimes you go PLoP on your head, never 614 00:27:42,074 --> 00:27:44,314 Speaker 3: PLoP on your head, not even not PLoP it anywhere 615 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,874 Speaker 3: above the shampoo. PLoP you always with your shampoo. And 616 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:48,554 Speaker 3: this is another thing that might be weighing your hair down. 617 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:51,954 Speaker 3: Shampoo is like you don't just put a PLoP of 618 00:27:51,954 --> 00:27:55,034 Speaker 3: your morning fresh on your dishes shampoo. You put a leather, leather, leather, 619 00:27:55,114 --> 00:27:56,513 Speaker 3: and then work in. If you PLoP it on there, 620 00:27:56,554 --> 00:27:57,714 Speaker 3: you're can get a lot of build up at the 621 00:27:57,754 --> 00:28:00,114 Speaker 3: scalp and then conditioner. I do that, and then I 622 00:28:00,154 --> 00:28:02,154 Speaker 3: put my hair back and then sort of start scrunching 623 00:28:02,154 --> 00:28:04,714 Speaker 3: it in and then work it in ears down. Yeah, 624 00:28:04,954 --> 00:28:07,714 Speaker 3: and just use however much you Yeah, I start with 625 00:28:07,754 --> 00:28:09,954 Speaker 3: a five cent and then give yourself some extra pocket 626 00:28:09,954 --> 00:28:10,793 Speaker 3: money and build up. 627 00:28:10,674 --> 00:28:12,034 Speaker 1: Once you get out of the show and you've got 628 00:28:12,034 --> 00:28:12,394 Speaker 1: wet head. 629 00:28:12,434 --> 00:28:15,034 Speaker 4: Don't use heaps of lotions and potions, because once again 630 00:28:15,114 --> 00:28:16,154 Speaker 4: it's in our nature. 631 00:28:15,874 --> 00:28:17,714 Speaker 1: To be like, oh, but I'm going to just put 632 00:28:17,714 --> 00:28:20,234 Speaker 1: this n sealer on. Then I'm going to put like 633 00:28:20,234 --> 00:28:21,874 Speaker 1: a nice oil through it and. 634 00:28:22,194 --> 00:28:25,754 Speaker 4: Just stop, like, let's figure out what step is weighing. 635 00:28:25,794 --> 00:28:28,793 Speaker 4: You just use a little bit of a heat protectant 636 00:28:29,474 --> 00:28:33,874 Speaker 4: and that's it. You can always add more product in afterwards, 637 00:28:33,874 --> 00:28:36,354 Speaker 4: like if at the end it's looking oh, you could 638 00:28:36,354 --> 00:28:37,834 Speaker 4: then put like a tiny bit of an oil in 639 00:28:37,994 --> 00:28:40,154 Speaker 4: or something to make it bring life back into it. 640 00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:44,034 Speaker 4: I absolutely love the dyce In air rap. I was 641 00:28:44,074 --> 00:28:47,554 Speaker 4: such a late starter with this product. I was so 642 00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,354 Speaker 4: like me with Game of Thrones. I watched it like 643 00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:51,994 Speaker 4: eight years after and everyone's like, we've been telling you, 644 00:28:51,994 --> 00:28:54,554 Speaker 4: but I was like, that was so expensive, So I 645 00:28:54,634 --> 00:28:57,234 Speaker 4: just didn't. I never knew how much even with short hair, 646 00:28:57,554 --> 00:29:00,154 Speaker 4: the difference unless you're an absolute whiz with a round 647 00:29:00,274 --> 00:29:03,594 Speaker 4: brush and a traditional blow dryer. The Tyson air raup 648 00:29:03,714 --> 00:29:05,394 Speaker 4: is just so good for anyone that's even a little 649 00:29:05,394 --> 00:29:05,874 Speaker 4: bit lazy. 650 00:29:06,114 --> 00:29:08,354 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, No, I can't. 651 00:29:08,474 --> 00:29:09,354 Speaker 1: I can't be bothered. 652 00:29:09,554 --> 00:29:11,594 Speaker 4: I literally sit there scrolling on my phone, just like 653 00:29:12,754 --> 00:29:15,834 Speaker 4: letting the coil thing do its job, and my hair 654 00:29:15,914 --> 00:29:19,354 Speaker 4: just will naturally have so much more volume and bounce 655 00:29:19,434 --> 00:29:22,514 Speaker 4: than if I just blow dried it using your regular thing, 656 00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:24,994 Speaker 4: because I wouldn't do it properly feel and it would 657 00:29:24,994 --> 00:29:26,114 Speaker 4: just sit on my scalp. 658 00:29:26,394 --> 00:29:29,154 Speaker 1: Then some favorites for texture. 659 00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:31,834 Speaker 4: And volume, which I would add in after I finished 660 00:29:31,834 --> 00:29:33,714 Speaker 4: staling my hair, however I want to whether or not 661 00:29:33,754 --> 00:29:37,114 Speaker 4: I'm just leaving it. I always put it in sort 662 00:29:37,154 --> 00:29:39,034 Speaker 4: of at the roots and then work it through or 663 00:29:39,074 --> 00:29:41,954 Speaker 4: wherever I want a little bit more texture, so the 664 00:29:42,074 --> 00:29:45,634 Speaker 4: orbe thick dry finishing spray. That is sixty nine dollars. 665 00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:48,874 Speaker 4: It's so expensive, but I've actually had it for four years. 666 00:29:49,274 --> 00:29:51,514 Speaker 4: Like this is the thing about a lot of hair products. 667 00:29:51,554 --> 00:29:53,154 Speaker 4: You rarely will finish your hair product. 668 00:29:53,154 --> 00:29:54,594 Speaker 3: I mean, how often did it do your hair? I 669 00:29:54,634 --> 00:29:56,834 Speaker 3: mean maybe she doesn't hair like this every day, but 670 00:29:56,874 --> 00:29:58,594 Speaker 3: it's usually when you do it going somewhere fancy. You 671 00:29:58,634 --> 00:30:00,074 Speaker 3: need the tiniest amount it will last you. 672 00:30:00,314 --> 00:30:00,954 Speaker 1: You don't need much. 673 00:30:00,994 --> 00:30:02,514 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I haven't used it every time I've 674 00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:05,394 Speaker 4: done my hair, that is. But all of these hair products, 675 00:30:05,474 --> 00:30:07,794 Speaker 4: although some of them are expensive, you don't run through 676 00:30:07,834 --> 00:30:13,394 Speaker 4: them quickly. Then this one's relatively new, the Evader Abundant Blowout. 677 00:30:13,434 --> 00:30:15,714 Speaker 3: I was gonna suggest the shampoo and conditioner, although it's 678 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:17,394 Speaker 3: not a conditioner, they call it like a lotion or something. 679 00:30:17,434 --> 00:30:20,314 Speaker 3: This whole range is phenomenal. It's so good for volume. 680 00:30:20,674 --> 00:30:22,994 Speaker 4: It's a heat protecting that goes in and then it 681 00:30:23,154 --> 00:30:26,434 Speaker 4: like activates and it makes like once heat hits it 682 00:30:26,474 --> 00:30:29,714 Speaker 4: when you're blow drying, it like expands, So that one 683 00:30:29,754 --> 00:30:31,994 Speaker 4: is outstanding. And also then a two in one because 684 00:30:32,034 --> 00:30:34,714 Speaker 4: you're getting the heat protectant with it. That one's forty 685 00:30:34,794 --> 00:30:38,554 Speaker 4: nine dollars. And then the Amika Rising Star Volume Finishing 686 00:30:38,554 --> 00:30:41,954 Speaker 4: Spray for twenty nine dollars. That one's from Sephora. That 687 00:30:41,994 --> 00:30:46,514 Speaker 4: one is outstanding. Just one of those like aggressive texturizing 688 00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:48,994 Speaker 4: sprays that just gets in there and books. 689 00:30:48,994 --> 00:30:51,394 Speaker 3: Start with the teeniest amount because there's no going back. 690 00:30:51,434 --> 00:30:53,234 Speaker 3: But then it's really af fact. Yeah, yeah, like that 691 00:30:53,274 --> 00:30:53,514 Speaker 3: one too. 692 00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:54,114 Speaker 1: What about you? 693 00:30:54,194 --> 00:30:56,234 Speaker 3: I mean I don't have that much to add obviously, 694 00:30:56,434 --> 00:30:59,514 Speaker 3: like we said, hair type plays a huge role, so 695 00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:02,674 Speaker 3: it is hair health really, if you've got damaged hair, 696 00:31:02,754 --> 00:31:04,554 Speaker 3: it's a lot easy to get volume. You know. I 697 00:31:04,594 --> 00:31:06,634 Speaker 3: think when I had a lot of ballyage, Oh my god, 698 00:31:06,674 --> 00:31:08,874 Speaker 3: my hair was so much better in the way that 699 00:31:08,914 --> 00:31:11,994 Speaker 3: it kind of chemically had that kind of wave and volume. 700 00:31:12,034 --> 00:31:14,874 Speaker 3: Because if you're blonde or bleaching hair or removing any color, 701 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:17,634 Speaker 3: because the process kind of goes in and opens the hairshaft, 702 00:31:17,634 --> 00:31:20,674 Speaker 3: it causes damage. But then hello, volume. I agree with 703 00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:22,594 Speaker 3: you totally the things that she could be or couldn't 704 00:31:22,594 --> 00:31:25,314 Speaker 3: be doing wrong. So putting products in soaking wet hair, 705 00:31:25,354 --> 00:31:26,994 Speaker 3: it's just going to dilute the product. So make sure 706 00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:28,794 Speaker 3: you know you've always tail dried or ear dried a 707 00:31:28,794 --> 00:31:32,594 Speaker 3: little bit using too much product, like you probably need 708 00:31:33,074 --> 00:31:35,194 Speaker 3: a third of what most people are using. You can 709 00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:38,034 Speaker 3: always add more a conditioner to the roots. Do not 710 00:31:38,154 --> 00:31:40,914 Speaker 3: do that might be the wrong drying technique. You know, 711 00:31:40,914 --> 00:31:43,714 Speaker 3: if you don't have an air wrap, gravity can help you. 712 00:31:43,754 --> 00:31:46,594 Speaker 3: So flip your hair upside down, rough dry and literally 713 00:31:46,674 --> 00:31:49,194 Speaker 3: let the heat you know, into the roots, and then 714 00:31:49,634 --> 00:31:51,474 Speaker 3: your head's upside down. You're not doing any of the 715 00:31:51,594 --> 00:31:54,994 Speaker 3: styling air cool shot. You always need to finish heat 716 00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:58,314 Speaker 3: styling with a cool shot. Because it's kind of swelling 717 00:31:58,354 --> 00:32:00,594 Speaker 3: the hair shaft asking it to do whatever you're doing it. 718 00:32:00,594 --> 00:32:03,274 Speaker 3: But then cool will kind of lock in whatever you've done, 719 00:32:03,554 --> 00:32:05,434 Speaker 3: and then of course you can finish with you know, 720 00:32:05,474 --> 00:32:07,594 Speaker 3: your old school kind of roller, like what's that called 721 00:32:07,674 --> 00:32:08,714 Speaker 3: roundbrush and you're. 722 00:32:09,074 --> 00:32:11,394 Speaker 1: I see people do that, and I'm like, how can 723 00:32:11,434 --> 00:32:11,914 Speaker 1: we bother? 724 00:32:12,234 --> 00:32:14,474 Speaker 3: That is the number one key if you really want 725 00:32:14,554 --> 00:32:16,954 Speaker 3: lasting volume and you've got time. Bonus points if you 726 00:32:17,034 --> 00:32:19,354 Speaker 3: use rollers or clips at the roots or kind of 727 00:32:19,354 --> 00:32:21,514 Speaker 3: at the crown or at the front, because anything like 728 00:32:21,554 --> 00:32:25,274 Speaker 3: that that's held and properly cooled will last forever. I 729 00:32:25,314 --> 00:32:27,314 Speaker 3: ain't going to do that, but the core shop makes 730 00:32:27,314 --> 00:32:29,354 Speaker 3: a massive difference. Even if you're not sort of using 731 00:32:29,354 --> 00:32:31,674 Speaker 3: the air app which kind of you have to use 732 00:32:31,714 --> 00:32:33,674 Speaker 3: that because it's not using a lot of heat. Your 733 00:32:33,674 --> 00:32:35,834 Speaker 3: hair dry will have a core setting. Do that if 734 00:32:35,874 --> 00:32:37,834 Speaker 3: you're an air dry like me, I mean, I've half 735 00:32:37,874 --> 00:32:39,994 Speaker 3: done this today to finished, because we'll hear quite early 736 00:32:40,634 --> 00:32:44,114 Speaker 3: root lift product on damp hair. Anything that's going to 737 00:32:44,274 --> 00:32:46,874 Speaker 3: give you long lasting volume should be applied on well 738 00:32:46,914 --> 00:32:49,354 Speaker 3: is most effective in damp hair. Finishing products are great, 739 00:32:49,834 --> 00:32:52,554 Speaker 3: but they can't go in and kind of recreate the 740 00:32:52,754 --> 00:32:55,394 Speaker 3: bounce and the air that you're going to create while 741 00:32:55,394 --> 00:32:57,874 Speaker 3: you're doing it. So make sure you know. If you 742 00:32:57,874 --> 00:33:00,754 Speaker 3: want volume that lasts, it's something on damp pair. So 743 00:33:00,794 --> 00:33:02,394 Speaker 3: for me, I would go in and use a product. 744 00:33:02,474 --> 00:33:05,354 Speaker 3: Then you're supposed to scrunch. Well, I have scrunch, scrunch 745 00:33:05,394 --> 00:33:06,914 Speaker 3: and lift at the roots. My hair is still quite 746 00:33:06,914 --> 00:33:09,714 Speaker 3: wet and once you you know, got some air in there, 747 00:33:10,234 --> 00:33:12,394 Speaker 3: leave it. Do not touch your hair. My hair air 748 00:33:12,474 --> 00:33:15,274 Speaker 3: dries quite quickly, thankfully, but I touched a million times. 749 00:33:15,274 --> 00:33:18,154 Speaker 3: And that's when you go from that kind of natural 750 00:33:18,194 --> 00:33:21,114 Speaker 3: wave to frizzy and buffy. And then when you're done, 751 00:33:21,154 --> 00:33:23,954 Speaker 3: you could do a finishing spray or I use dry shampoo, 752 00:33:24,034 --> 00:33:26,714 Speaker 3: so I'll you know, God, it's very early in the morning, 753 00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:28,994 Speaker 3: but once this is a bit more dry, dry to 754 00:33:29,034 --> 00:33:30,634 Speaker 3: the eye, I guess it doesn't have to be fully dry, 755 00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:32,274 Speaker 3: because you know how the underneath doesn't get dryed to 756 00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:34,154 Speaker 3: like three pm. You just do a bit of dry 757 00:33:34,194 --> 00:33:36,434 Speaker 3: shampoo or text to spray. I don't. I literally have 758 00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:39,194 Speaker 3: scrunched in like a oh it was the kere of 759 00:33:39,274 --> 00:33:43,234 Speaker 3: silk protein bond. It's just kind of like a styling 760 00:33:43,274 --> 00:33:46,154 Speaker 3: slash treatment. In one. But I'm assuming she's saying she 761 00:33:46,194 --> 00:33:48,074 Speaker 3: does the blow dry, So yeah, flip your hair upside down, 762 00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:51,314 Speaker 3: rough dry, let it cool. Why heads upside down? Hope 763 00:33:51,354 --> 00:33:52,754 Speaker 3: you don't get a headache. And then when you flip 764 00:33:52,794 --> 00:33:55,074 Speaker 3: it back kind of just use that round brush situation 765 00:33:55,154 --> 00:33:58,114 Speaker 3: and a cool shot. Products that I love the colour out, 766 00:33:58,234 --> 00:34:00,554 Speaker 3: raise the root, thick and lift spray. That's for a 767 00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:03,914 Speaker 3: damp hair. Wow, this will change the game if you're 768 00:34:03,914 --> 00:34:06,274 Speaker 3: not already using that. I also do wonder if what 769 00:34:06,354 --> 00:34:08,314 Speaker 3: products she's using or if any, because a lot of 770 00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:11,234 Speaker 3: my friends that have this problem use the write shampoo 771 00:34:11,274 --> 00:34:12,913 Speaker 3: and condition. I have a great hair spray or whatever, 772 00:34:12,953 --> 00:34:14,873 Speaker 3: but they're not doing anything on the damn hair. And 773 00:34:14,913 --> 00:34:17,834 Speaker 3: that's really like the cement. You know, cement is wet 774 00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:19,354 Speaker 3: when you're putting the bricks to at that and it's 775 00:34:19,354 --> 00:34:22,154 Speaker 3: really going to hold the wall up. Living proof, full 776 00:34:22,274 --> 00:34:24,314 Speaker 3: dry volume and text to spray. Oh my god, I 777 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:26,914 Speaker 3: love this one. But the travel size is thirty three dollars. 778 00:34:27,194 --> 00:34:29,594 Speaker 3: But again this is volume in a bottle. And then 779 00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:32,154 Speaker 3: another one that you can go ott with. But it's 780 00:34:32,194 --> 00:34:35,114 Speaker 3: so good is the Batiste hair benefits volume dry shampoo. 781 00:34:35,554 --> 00:34:38,433 Speaker 3: I rarely use that as a dry shampoo because it 782 00:34:38,514 --> 00:34:40,953 Speaker 3: is so volume that if I really need to mop 783 00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:44,074 Speaker 3: up some oil, i'll like literally have a helmet of hair. 784 00:34:44,114 --> 00:34:46,274 Speaker 3: So I use that just as a volume spray. And 785 00:34:46,314 --> 00:34:48,873 Speaker 3: I kind of always just I don't put it right there, 786 00:34:48,914 --> 00:34:50,393 Speaker 3: because you know you want the volume kind of at 787 00:34:50,394 --> 00:34:52,634 Speaker 3: the top layers. I'll just go to diggit and then 788 00:34:53,274 --> 00:34:55,234 Speaker 3: if you're watching on the video, don't look at my 789 00:34:55,274 --> 00:34:58,834 Speaker 3: actual hair now. Also the humidities fucking Sydney. It's great 790 00:34:58,874 --> 00:35:01,514 Speaker 3: hair for a week. I know it's gotten hot again, 791 00:35:01,594 --> 00:35:04,433 Speaker 3: I know. Anyway, there your tips rule of some just 792 00:35:04,514 --> 00:35:07,114 Speaker 3: don't use too much product because it's going to weighr hair. 793 00:35:07,194 --> 00:35:09,154 Speaker 3: Doubt as a fine lass, I find that's probably my 794 00:35:09,194 --> 00:35:11,873 Speaker 3: biggest problem. But yeah, something on damp hair, whether you're 795 00:35:11,874 --> 00:35:13,994 Speaker 3: gonna air dry or blow dry, will really kind of 796 00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:18,754 Speaker 3: be the glue again. Your hair. It's phenomenal today. 797 00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:20,474 Speaker 1: It's looking quite sexy, isn't it do? 798 00:35:20,594 --> 00:35:22,074 Speaker 3: Look like a little sex form. 799 00:35:21,794 --> 00:35:24,033 Speaker 4: All right after the break our beauty bites and Lee's 800 00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:25,554 Speaker 4: gonna tell us about her lovely legs. 801 00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:31,473 Speaker 2: Oh god, my. 802 00:35:31,474 --> 00:35:33,834 Speaker 3: Beauty bite is not phenomenal, And it's not actually what 803 00:35:33,874 --> 00:35:35,993 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, but you would like to know, 804 00:35:36,274 --> 00:35:38,554 Speaker 3: you said, because I'm wearing shorts for those not watching, 805 00:35:38,954 --> 00:35:39,754 Speaker 3: and she's got a. 806 00:35:39,714 --> 00:35:43,514 Speaker 1: Lovely bronzed, even skin toned legs. 807 00:35:44,194 --> 00:35:45,994 Speaker 3: Two legs go that, Yeah, I have two legs. I 808 00:35:46,034 --> 00:35:48,714 Speaker 3: wouldn't go that far. But I tanned last night, you know, 809 00:35:48,794 --> 00:35:52,234 Speaker 3: the day before tanning, because I scrubbed and shaved that 810 00:35:52,314 --> 00:35:55,234 Speaker 3: morning and then I had to go about my days. 811 00:35:56,394 --> 00:35:58,354 Speaker 3: It's just like a lot. So I was literally wearing 812 00:35:58,394 --> 00:36:00,953 Speaker 3: like a black T shirt and a long skirt because 813 00:36:00,954 --> 00:36:03,234 Speaker 3: it was just not a good look. So the fact 814 00:36:03,234 --> 00:36:04,714 Speaker 3: that my legs look like this this morning, I'm quite 815 00:36:04,714 --> 00:36:07,554 Speaker 3: proud of. I did different tands on different sections of 816 00:36:07,594 --> 00:36:10,954 Speaker 3: my body. That is what happens. So my legs don't 817 00:36:10,994 --> 00:36:13,994 Speaker 3: hold much tan at all. It's really weird. My top half. 818 00:36:14,154 --> 00:36:15,834 Speaker 3: I've seen on a lot of forums, so this happens 819 00:36:15,834 --> 00:36:16,834 Speaker 3: to a lot of people. 820 00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:19,634 Speaker 4: Probably because we are better at moisturizing our legs, so 821 00:36:20,034 --> 00:36:22,274 Speaker 4: it's not going to grab as much to like dry skins. 822 00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:25,754 Speaker 3: Strange, isn't it. So what I did was I showered. 823 00:36:25,794 --> 00:36:29,234 Speaker 3: I'd already exfoliated and shaved that morning. Because if you 824 00:36:29,314 --> 00:36:32,114 Speaker 3: can leave a gap between the whole process it'll be better. 825 00:36:32,474 --> 00:36:34,474 Speaker 3: And so from the waist up I have just the 826 00:36:34,834 --> 00:36:37,394 Speaker 3: good old classic latan because I think it's a nice 827 00:36:37,434 --> 00:36:41,194 Speaker 3: like doesn't really look like it's very believable. It wears 828 00:36:41,194 --> 00:36:44,194 Speaker 3: off beautifully, but my legs at the moment are actually 829 00:36:44,474 --> 00:36:48,074 Speaker 3: very bruised because I'm quite the clumsy girl, and just yeah, 830 00:36:48,234 --> 00:36:49,994 Speaker 3: I feel a bit of a deeper tan on my 831 00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:51,474 Speaker 3: legs just makes me feel better. 832 00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:53,314 Speaker 1: So I use it about the bruises. 833 00:36:53,554 --> 00:36:55,554 Speaker 3: It actually really does, and you know, look I've got 834 00:36:55,594 --> 00:36:57,114 Speaker 3: I love to pick a mossy bart. I was supposed 835 00:36:57,114 --> 00:36:58,714 Speaker 3: to couple those with the concealed but I couldn't be bopled. 836 00:36:58,834 --> 00:37:02,474 Speaker 3: But it does just kind of unify everything the veins. 837 00:37:02,674 --> 00:37:06,914 Speaker 3: So this on the bottom is the violet centerpe okay, 838 00:37:07,114 --> 00:37:08,393 Speaker 3: because I was doing it late at night, so I 839 00:37:08,394 --> 00:37:10,634 Speaker 3: actually didn't want believe it or not, which is so 840 00:37:10,994 --> 00:37:12,913 Speaker 3: retro something that I had to wash off in a 841 00:37:12,914 --> 00:37:14,994 Speaker 3: few hours, and I didn't want to leave on a 842 00:37:15,034 --> 00:37:17,274 Speaker 3: two hour tan overnight just in case it was really bad. 843 00:37:17,274 --> 00:37:20,994 Speaker 3: So she wanted an old school property. I need to 844 00:37:21,034 --> 00:37:23,554 Speaker 3: go to bed. So the top half was just the latan, 845 00:37:23,594 --> 00:37:25,714 Speaker 3: which is you know, can wash off after two but 846 00:37:25,834 --> 00:37:27,754 Speaker 3: leave as long as I ate. Same with the Centrepez 847 00:37:28,074 --> 00:37:30,913 Speaker 3: and the Santa pe Violet one. It's extra deep dark 848 00:37:30,954 --> 00:37:32,754 Speaker 3: or something, but it's it's not you know, I don't 849 00:37:32,754 --> 00:37:34,954 Speaker 3: think it's full on. But yeah, that's why I think. 850 00:37:34,954 --> 00:37:36,314 Speaker 1: That's actually a really great tip. 851 00:37:36,394 --> 00:37:38,634 Speaker 4: Like different parts of your body white, you don't have 852 00:37:38,674 --> 00:37:39,513 Speaker 4: to use the same time. 853 00:37:39,594 --> 00:37:41,754 Speaker 3: And I think you know when the tan's close to 854 00:37:41,794 --> 00:37:44,033 Speaker 3: your face. And also my chest is quite creepy and dry. 855 00:37:44,114 --> 00:37:47,154 Speaker 3: If I used a tan that dark or intense, it 856 00:37:47,274 --> 00:37:49,393 Speaker 3: just looks like I've got really bad tan on, so 857 00:37:49,474 --> 00:37:51,634 Speaker 3: you know, quite a light. I think that Latan wants 858 00:37:51,634 --> 00:37:54,594 Speaker 3: like light to medium and then different one of my legs. Hopefully, 859 00:37:54,634 --> 00:37:56,634 Speaker 3: don't go to the beach anytime. See someone will be 860 00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:58,914 Speaker 3: like I literally, yes. 861 00:37:58,834 --> 00:37:59,314 Speaker 2: What's yours? 862 00:37:59,754 --> 00:38:04,074 Speaker 4: So we're in autumn. The changing season can mean that 863 00:38:04,154 --> 00:38:06,274 Speaker 4: your skin freaks out on your face, but it can 864 00:38:06,354 --> 00:38:08,714 Speaker 4: also mean that you're skin freaks out on your body. 865 00:38:09,194 --> 00:38:11,634 Speaker 4: Every single year this happens to me. I just get 866 00:38:11,674 --> 00:38:15,234 Speaker 4: a lot more congestion, like little pimples and texture on 867 00:38:15,354 --> 00:38:18,634 Speaker 4: my back. And different areas affect different people. Some people 868 00:38:18,714 --> 00:38:21,994 Speaker 4: get on their butts a nussa acnea is I coined 869 00:38:21,994 --> 00:38:25,234 Speaker 4: it chairs like there are all different areas, but it's 870 00:38:25,274 --> 00:38:28,314 Speaker 4: so hard to actually treat that area. 871 00:38:28,354 --> 00:38:30,114 Speaker 1: And it also sort of like no one can be 872 00:38:30,194 --> 00:38:31,114 Speaker 1: really be bothered. 873 00:38:30,954 --> 00:38:33,034 Speaker 4: Especially when we're going to be covering it up around 874 00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:37,433 Speaker 4: to get there exactly. So clarifying body sprays they are 875 00:38:37,514 --> 00:38:41,473 Speaker 4: absolutely heaven because all you do is spray them onto 876 00:38:41,554 --> 00:38:44,754 Speaker 4: the area. Then I just like wait thirty seconds and 877 00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:46,953 Speaker 4: like while moistures and my legs and just moisturize as 878 00:38:46,994 --> 00:38:49,913 Speaker 4: per usual, clears it up within a few days. And 879 00:38:50,514 --> 00:38:54,393 Speaker 4: so I've got the Murred one. It's eighty five dollars, 880 00:38:54,594 --> 00:38:56,913 Speaker 4: but once again kind of like the Orbait. I've had 881 00:38:56,954 --> 00:38:59,354 Speaker 4: it for years though because they don't use it. 882 00:38:59,354 --> 00:38:59,993 Speaker 1: It's really good. 883 00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:03,634 Speaker 3: Not Mario Mario, but Esco does your favorite little thing. 884 00:39:03,754 --> 00:39:06,994 Speaker 4: Yes, so they've got one want yep, thirty one dollars. 885 00:39:07,114 --> 00:39:09,634 Speaker 4: It's also the Frank Body Triple Acid body Mix, which 886 00:39:09,674 --> 00:39:13,234 Speaker 4: is twel I love that one, the TBH, the Breakout 887 00:39:13,274 --> 00:39:16,154 Speaker 4: Hack Body Sprits thirty dollars, and then the Dermological Clear 888 00:39:16,194 --> 00:39:17,434 Speaker 4: Start forty four dollars. 889 00:39:17,914 --> 00:39:19,754 Speaker 1: So there's five really good. 890 00:39:19,634 --> 00:39:21,514 Speaker 4: Ones on the market. I'm sure that there's other ones, 891 00:39:21,554 --> 00:39:24,234 Speaker 4: but I haven't tried them all seen them. They're just 892 00:39:24,354 --> 00:39:27,354 Speaker 4: so good at congestion. They're really great if you've got 893 00:39:27,354 --> 00:39:30,874 Speaker 4: a team that's maybe getting different acne. 894 00:39:31,034 --> 00:39:32,714 Speaker 3: Also, I think if you're a gym goer, which I 895 00:39:32,794 --> 00:39:35,314 Speaker 3: used to be in another lifetime, and you are kind 896 00:39:35,314 --> 00:39:37,474 Speaker 3: of showering at work or whatever, you kind of just 897 00:39:37,554 --> 00:39:40,433 Speaker 3: quickly or you can't shower it really because when you're 898 00:39:40,434 --> 00:39:43,594 Speaker 3: skin calls down in the paws close, you can get congestions. 899 00:39:43,594 --> 00:39:46,154 Speaker 1: So just the sprits of that wherever exactly. 900 00:39:46,274 --> 00:39:50,074 Speaker 4: Bloom, sweat people between you, boobs exactly, clarifying sprays. 901 00:39:50,154 --> 00:39:54,274 Speaker 1: They are incredible. And that's my beauty bite. 902 00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:56,154 Speaker 3: Look at us solving all the world's beauty problem. 903 00:39:56,234 --> 00:39:58,154 Speaker 4: It's been a bit of a longer rep today everyone, 904 00:39:58,194 --> 00:40:00,834 Speaker 4: we do apologize. So let's get out of here and 905 00:40:00,914 --> 00:40:03,554 Speaker 4: let you get to your day. Will I see you 906 00:40:03,554 --> 00:40:06,754 Speaker 4: on Friday, my friend, You surely surely will. And in 907 00:40:06,794 --> 00:40:08,873 Speaker 4: the meanti time you can find us on socials. We'll 908 00:40:08,874 --> 00:40:10,634 Speaker 4: link in the show notes along with everything else. 909 00:40:10,994 --> 00:40:18,914 Speaker 1: Bye bye,