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Speaker 1: Deep doo doo. It is time of the week where

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Speaker 1: we give our favorite beauty recommendations. What's been blowing our

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Speaker 1: socks off? How have you put it on your cheeks?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I've got on today. Oh oh, deeply

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Speaker 2: nourishing to replenish, severely dry, dehydrated, irritated skin. Guilty.

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Speaker 1: It is so unique, is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: Cream cheese from a carrot cake. It's very, very dense.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about the saying, if it ain't broke,

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Speaker 2: don't fix it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here are the hair trends that we're about

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Speaker 1: to see every ear we had a peek into the future,

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Speaker 1: and this is what we are going to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the Show for your Face,

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Speaker 2: Hair and bathroom Cabinet. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran.

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Speaker 1: And if you're wondering why on Earth my hair looks

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Speaker 1: like this, you can blame our friend Lee.

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Speaker 2: Over here for that. Yes, I did Kelly's hair, and

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Speaker 2: I actually think I did a beautiful job. But head

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Speaker 2: over to our Instagram to see the behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: because it was a bit of a fun one.

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Speaker 1: I look like a mushroom.

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Speaker 2: You do a little bit. You look like Princess Peach

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Speaker 2: and a mushroom had a baby. Tell everyone why I

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Speaker 2: had to do your hair. Well, I can't lift my

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Speaker 2: arms up over like to do my makeup. I did

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Speaker 2: my makeup like t Rex, I was like when we

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Speaker 2: were But I definitely couldn't do my.

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Speaker 1: Hairs because I am four days postop. The bob job

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Speaker 1: mentioned it last week and fun little story. I met

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Speaker 1: a ub in the waiting room.

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Speaker 2: Stop it. Hang on first, what's a bob job? Big job?

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Speaker 1: I had breast revision and fat grafting. Fat grafting is

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Speaker 1: just so they can plump out the area without adding

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Speaker 1: a huge cholde implant because I already have.

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Speaker 2: Quite Yeah, they were ample, a big bossom, A revision

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Speaker 2: medically needed. I'm no, I'm asking too many questions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's a bit yeah, not urgent though. We're

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Speaker 1: not giving tips and tricks on how to get this

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Speaker 1: beautiful look or talking about my bruised bossom.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Bottom bossom?

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Speaker 2: Bosom bosom busies, yeah, bosom, so I have about you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, thanks for asking how I'm feeling so on

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Speaker 2: the show today.

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Speaker 1: I forgot you a sick last week, and Aaron filled in,

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Speaker 1: how could you forget?

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Speaker 2: It's been all about you?

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Speaker 1: It really has been. Sorry, but I'm a bit of

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Speaker 1: a narcissist this week.

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Speaker 2: So on the show today, one of the world's most

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Speaker 2: popular best selling beauty products has been reformulated. Whider brands

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Speaker 2: do that. Plus I have it here, I haven't even

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Speaker 2: opened it, so let's have a play. Then we're talking

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Speaker 2: all things eyes, from creepy skin and lines and dryness

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Speaker 2: to amazing makeup packs. And then we're fishing with spendy Sabe.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget you can watch everything the entire episode

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Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts or YouTube, so you don't just get

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Speaker 1: to hear about us talking about all things beauty. You

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Speaker 1: can watch us too. But first Lee, let's chat about

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the world of beauty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, well I would like to talk about hair

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Speaker 2: because yours looks absolutely fabulous and there's a trend that's

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Speaker 2: coming that I'm secretly so excited about. I hope it's true.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm about to walk you through the hair trends

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Speaker 1: we are about to see everywhere, and thank god we

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Speaker 1: are finally doing less.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're on trends. We are Oh my gosh, great,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean by life?

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Speaker 1: I've been on trend my entire life, right So, according

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Speaker 1: to a Lure magazine trend report, now they are one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest magazines in the world, I would say

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Speaker 1: the summer twenty twenty six hair color trends are all

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Speaker 2: Okay, so color we're letting our roots grow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I certainly will not be. Some of the trends

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Speaker 1: dominating summer overseas are giving us an insight into what

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we don't really like a lot of blondes,

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Speaker 2: Stretched thing called that gets you get more time out

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Speaker 2: of your color if you get a root stretch. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: There's not much about brunettes here, so okay, ye can't

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Speaker 2: We're lower maintenance just by default because it's kind of

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Speaker 2: So are people doing less like actually just not doing it?

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Speaker 2: Or is there like techniques that are like stretching it out?

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you so.

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Speaker 1: A couple of the trends are so Number one, champagne blonde.

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Speaker 1: This shade lives in that space between warm and cool.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, caramel highlights are all so trending. The champagne blonde

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Speaker 1: Another trend is the bleach cut out. So this is

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Speaker 1: singer Rosalia, her colorist did it just looks like a

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Speaker 1: just gonna be honest. I don't think most me mortals

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Speaker 2: And so if she's got the tiger thing, I guess

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Speaker 1: Finally, when it comes to reds, because obviously coppers and

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Speaker 2: And the reason is because the red color molecule is bigger,

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Speaker 1: So burnt sienna is trending though, so instead of really

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Speaker 1: It's not really loud, it's quite low maintenance because it's

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Speaker 1: it almost looks like not on everyone, but on some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I want to know from the

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do a bleach cut it. I'm going

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Speaker 2: I mean I might do that after a few drinks,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if few bees are like right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am strawberry red blonde, but now I'm going to

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Speaker 1: champagne blonde.

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Speaker 2: Or no, the champagne blonde's nice. You can do the

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Speaker 2: cutout or with blaaramels. No, you don't get you have

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Speaker 2: to do I'll do it, but you have to do that.

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Speaker 1: You would, but your hair would be so easy then

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Speaker 2: I can't help on brunette anyway. Why do brands reformulate

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Speaker 2: products we all love? One of the world's best selling,

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Speaker 2: why brands do that.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those topics that gets people fired

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Speaker 1: up so much on the internet in the beauty Facebook group.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it because I think we get really attached

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Speaker 1: to beauty products, and if something makes us feel really

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Speaker 1: a certain way, like really good, really joyous, when we

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Speaker 1: apply it, like it just makes us feel better. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I get it why people get so cranky, I personally

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Speaker 2: I get it. Well, you know what, we also are

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Speaker 2: very lucky to get to shop and change and try

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Speaker 2: different products for free. I think a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: you know, trial and error to find your perfect foundation.

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Speaker 1: It's expensive.

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Speaker 2: It's expensive, but I guess you know, formulations change, information

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Speaker 2: and ingredients are updated. But then someone just changed because

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Speaker 2: that I'm sort of in both camps because if I

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Speaker 2: find out that a product I really love, oh and

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Speaker 2: the formula was developed in nineteen thirty, I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: like science has come a long way, like we could

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Speaker 1: Our first question is a juicy big one from Maria. Ladies,

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Speaker 1: can we please talk about eyes? And when I say we,

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, all of the above, all of the above, alas, Marie,

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Speaker 1: But you know you're here well before we get into it.

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Speaker 2: Should we put some eye masks on ourselves? Because we're

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Speaker 1: We both like people are either in no I cream

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Speaker 2: And we're not talking about imass that you wear to

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Speaker 1: The difference if you do use these before really nice

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They thought you had gone and got a tea

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Speaker 1: Like they genuinely were just absolutely gobsmacked. And they all

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Speaker 1: the under eye patches. They definitely work, Obviously, it's not

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Speaker 2: They work, and if you did wear them every day

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Speaker 2: It's just that they're very expensive. I wouldn't wear them

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Speaker 1: On the note of that they are quite expensive, A

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Speaker 2: Literally on the run, like I run around the house

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a bit of a trend at

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Speaker 1: It's a bit by not an accessory. I just like

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Speaker 1: they don't slide off. But what you could do is

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Speaker 2: And casilic, and it's kind of like a loxit in

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Speaker 2: go on your routine. It's kind of up to you, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Showing you though, that you could just put them on

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Speaker 1: over I will then blend out with my finger and

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Speaker 1: I hopefully will still look like I've just got dewier.

437
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Speaker 2: This is true. You could do over makeup. I mean,

438
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 2: say you're a very busy person my old life and

439
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 2: needs to work all day here and then have to

440
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 2: go to an event. I would maybe chuck these on

441
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: and just refresh the area. You could do over makeup, but.

442
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: The skincare benefits are not going to absorb as well

443
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 1: because there's a big barrier with all of your laser makeup.

444
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so for me, I would do just my skincare serums.

445
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put any ice cream on and pop this

446
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 2: on for twenty minutes, maybe start my hair, take these off,

447
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 2: and then do SPF primer makeup, so they're kind of

448
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: just after your serums. Yeah. So Marie, you've said you're

449
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: forty two and you look like you haven't slept. Drank

450
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: water almost drives in ten years. I mean that's kind

451
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 2: of path for the course when you're getting into your forties,

452
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 2: but even earlier than that for several reasons, your underry

453
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: area doesn't have any oil glands, so the rest of

454
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: your face has pwes and oil glands, whereas this area doesn't,

455
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: so it doesn't lubricate itself, it's not hydrating. And then

456
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 2: it's just manual use, which we call intrinsic aging. So

457
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen to you no matter your lifestyle, and

458
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: that is because you smile, you cry, you talk, and

459
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: you things move, you do as humans have bad nights

460
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: of sleep, yes, but even bad sleep that's extrinsic. So

461
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,479
Speaker 2: that's lifestyle factors. So sun is you know you can

462
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: avoid that, you could you know you could try and

463
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: get better sleep, but just by having a face and moving,

464
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. So no lubrication and using the area

465
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: a lot. I guess it's like the breaks on your

466
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: car without break oil, break bads anyway, something like that.

467
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: So it's gonna happen, and so especially in the middle

468
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: of winter as well. So no amount of water you

469
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 2: drink is going to directly hydrate the air. Yeah, we've

470
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: talked about that a lot, but it is going to

471
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: help you be alive and help your organs. Hydration is important.

472
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: Sleep is also very important. However, most people that present

473
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: with problems that they talk about under their eyes is

474
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: usually genetic. It's down to ethnicity, So dark circles and

475
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: then you're just your bone structure for the shape and

476
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: the hollowness which is annoying, which gets worse. Yes, gramity.

477
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: So there's several things you can do. Anything that you

478
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: apply topically can only do so much. But if you

479
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: keep applying a great I cream morning or night or

480
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: whatever works for you, eyepatches, sleep will definitely help, you know,

481
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: just be healthy will definitely help. But you won't go

482
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: whow oh, I'm better after one night's sleep. Kelly's going

483
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: to talk about some things that you could do if

484
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 2: you want to kind of go in cleaning.

485
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: Obviously, because of the TGA, we can't really say too much,

486
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: but there are a couple of treatments that I can

487
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: just say may help with the appearance of things like

488
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: fine lines, sallowness, dark circles, hollowness, that sort of thing.

489
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: RF micro needling, which is radio frequency micro needling. So

490
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: it's like so the radio frequency goes in with the

491
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: needle and the needle is used to create a teeny

492
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: tiny micro wound, like because your body then goes, oh,

493
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: heal it send collagen, send healing powers, and by default

494
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: that's collagen pumping the area. Fractional laser is another treatment

495
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: that's a very very intense, like fully like skin resurfacing treatment.

496
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: A very popular treatment that I see people getting a

497
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: lot are skin boosters. So they use a bunch of

498
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: different things on the market, but it's like it involves tiny,

499
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 1: tiny little injections and a lot of them, and then

500
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: they just are basically boosting the skin by putting those

501
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: ingredients just under the surface of the skin. So you

502
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: tend to look like you've got like hundreds of little

503
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: bites under the eye area when you walk away. But

504
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: that is a bear. I would say that that's the

505
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: most popular treatment for treating the underage.

506
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: But it's not dermal filler. It's not going to be

507
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: under the skin forever. It's just kind of putting these

508
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: skincare ingredients in.

509
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't think many people get dermal filler anymore.

510
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: In general. I agree. Also, of course, anti riinker injections

511
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: are an option, and you should always talk to your doctor.

512
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: And they not they don't tend to put them, No,

513
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: not right under. But I'm wondering if she's saying she's

514
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: looking dry and haggard. Sometimes you don't know if this

515
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: is the problem for that person or you know, their

516
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 2: area of concern or this. Yeah, you know, it depends

517
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: on her level of comfort or invasiveness. Also M phase,

518
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: which is kind of like it's not invasive, there's no injections,

519
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: it's just some pads popped on your face and then

520
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: they kind of turn. It's like your face is doing

521
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: a million hundred sit ups. And they recently launched under eye,

522
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: which is a pad that goes under your eye. Oh yeah,

523
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: should we quickly share some of our favorite I creams.

524
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: We should and just to caveat this, people either love

525
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: I creams or they don't love I creams. I always

526
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: think that the people that don't think I creams are

527
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: necessary don't have sensitivity with their eyes, because you can

528
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: use a lot of serums up near your eye area

529
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: and they're going to offer the same sort of benefits

530
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: in terms of whether whatever you're trying to treat. So

531
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: that's the argument that a lot of the time it's

532
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: not necessary. Yes, however, a lot of face serums might

533
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: not have necessarily been ophthalmologically tested, so it's not going

534
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: to like obviously it's not going to burn your eyes

535
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't want to make something that would do that,

536
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: but it's not made or formulated for people that have

537
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: sensitivities in mind. And because product travels so easily, because

538
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: the area is so warm into your eyes, it can

539
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: cause a lot of Like if I just used a

540
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: regular serum close to my eyes, I would I would

541
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: not be able to see for about half an hour.

542
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: It would be so stingy.

543
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: And if you looked at the fine print for a

544
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: lot of face products will say avoid eye area. Yeah, exactly. Also,

545
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: I used to be eh, there's like three arch Yeah,

546
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: you did. Guess what.

547
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Then I got old, so I didn't really need them

548
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: that much. But I still think a lot of them

549
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: are terrible. Oh there's so many duds like Concealous exactly.

550
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: The underreyes kind of hard because it's not juicy and lubricated.

551
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: We want to lubricate it, but then we don't want

552
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: to highlight our wrinkles. Let's quickly talk through a few

553
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: so too that I'm going to mention there's millions that

554
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: I love, but the Buttapecific Puffy eye Gel one of

555
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: the best products areas ninety nine dollars worth every cent.

556
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: It really does help with puffiness, particularly if I skip

557
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: a well, I.

558
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Haven't had it for a long time. I just rebrought it,

559
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: but when I started using it again, I was like,

560
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: holy Toledo, you do work. And then the other one

561
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: that I think is really interesting is the Rock Multi

562
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: Correction Revive and Glow Vitamin C Eyebalm. I love that

563
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: one because it looks like a lip gloss. You wind

564
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: it up, it's got a little orange thing and you

565
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: just swipe on it. Super irishing, super hydrating, and the

566
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: vitamin C's obviously doing the brightening and anti aging, what

567
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: about you?

568
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: The one that I just wanted to quickly touch on

569
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Speaker 1: was the Keels creamy eye treatment with avocado. I discovered

570
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: it this year. I have barely been reaching for other

571
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: products because I just love it so much. A makeup

572
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: artist got it onto me. It looks great under makeup,

573
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: it's great at nighttime as your ice cream. It's outstanding.

574
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: And that is sixty nine dollars all right. Our second

575
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: question is also about eyes, but about eyeliner, so the

576
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: make up side of things. I feel a bit silly

577
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: asking this, but eyeliner no such thing as a silly question.

578
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't understand how everyone else seems to be

579
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: so good at it, but when I tried, it ends

580
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: up uneven, too thick, smudged, or somehow makes my eyes

581
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: look worse. The last time I really wore it was

582
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: in high school, when we all had thick black liner

583
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: on our top and bottom lids and thought we looked amazing.

584
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Hard relate.

585
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: These days, I mostly just wear my scar up, but

586
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: I'd love to give my eyes a little bit more

587
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: definition and shape. Is eyeline is still a thing? Like

588
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: do people still wear eyeliner every day, pencils, liquids, gels,

589
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: question mark, Please help a very eyeliner challenged girl.

590
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: Well, Kelly, I'd like to start by saying, I really

591
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: notice that you use eyeliner. Are you an eyeliner girl?

592
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: No, I love like I have a lot of fun

593
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: with it when I do wear it, but it's definitely

594
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: not saying I wear even every week.

595
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, So I've always been an eyeliner girl. So

596
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: my eyeliner friend, Look, you're asking if it's in I look.

597
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I would say trend wise, for the youth, they're not

598
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: wearing a lot of eyeliner. You'll see a lot less

599
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: eyeliner launches than maybe ten years ago, so it's probably

600
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: not as popular, but I think it can be very

601
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: underrated and really help you define your eyes or you know,

602
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: tweak your shape if you want to. It's just that

603
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: the way you are in high school me too, is

604
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: probably not the best approach. So I've got a few

605
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: to show you here. And look, I don't wear it

606
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: every day, but if i'm doing if I'm going anywhere,

607
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: I do, like if I go to the post office,

608
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: I do a wash of like bass, maybe tinted oistrizes

609
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: and browse. But if I'm doing any more than that,

610
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: there's liner.

611
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: I think as well, people's perception of eyeliner is probably

612
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: a little bit skewed because you think of like a

613
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: wing or a smoogie smudge.

614
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I would.

615
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that it would be really obvious that

616
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: you're wearing eyeliner.

617
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I know what you mean, because yeah,

618
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: you're thinking of like the full on tame. Yes. No,

619
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: I will always do some form of liner. What I

620
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: normally do like today's liquid, But what I always start

621
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: with is a pencil liner from the pupil outwards, very

622
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: very light stippling, and then I'll use an angled rush

623
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: to kind of feather that out, and that just gives

624
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: an anchor for the liner, the liquid liner, and then

625
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: I just stipple a little bit of liquid liner pupil outwards. Okay, favorites,

626
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: are we ready? I did allude to my very very

627
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: all time favorite. What is it? Do you remember me

628
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: talking about this the first one of the very first shows.

629
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: It's physician formula liquid eyeliner. Bit tricky to get here,

630
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: I get it off. I heard there's various iterations of it.

631
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: This one is lush boosting, so it does actually like

632
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: it's a lash serum as well. There's an even finer

633
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: one that's waterproof. Whether or not it is, I don't know,

634
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: but it's just a beautifully fine tip. Although the other

635
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: one is even finer, so I would put that on last.

636
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: But key. If you do want to do liquid, a

637
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: lot of people try to it in one stroke. You

638
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: want to do what's called stippling or feathering. So basically

639
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: you just want to do tiny, tiny little strokes or

640
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: tiny dots and join them together because then you don't

641
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: have to get it all in one flick. So basically

642
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: you just you've got your liquid tip. And I always

643
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: will use like a felt tip. I don't like a

644
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: liner in a pot. I find that as Italy it

645
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: does last a bit longer, but who cares. I'm not

646
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: going like, oh, three day rave. So a nice felt

647
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: tip and you don't want to put too much pressure.

648
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: You just hold it like your pen and then you

649
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Speaker 2: literally just do tiny stroke, tiny stroke, tiny stroke, with

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Speaker 2: a flick of the wrist, almost like you're filling in

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Speaker 2: your brows. That is much easier than trying to get

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Speaker 2: one straight line because guess what, even if one looks good,

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Speaker 2: she's got a friend.

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Speaker 1: She does and it does of course, no one cares,

655
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Speaker 1: or it doesn't matter if they're not matchy MATCHI they

656
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Speaker 1: don't need to be sit twins, but they do need

657
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Speaker 1: to be related, agreed, and.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to even the mount and then

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Speaker 2: it's one hundred o'clock and you can't live.

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Speaker 1: Just like your brows. Not twins, but related.

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Speaker 2: I think the goldilocks for most people when it comes

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Speaker 2: to a traditional pencil is something that's not a gel.

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Speaker 2: Gel is great because it's really not going to budge,

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Speaker 2: but you have absolutely no working time, or very little

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Speaker 2: working time. It's meant to be on the inner rim

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Speaker 2: or I mean the upper rim, maybe the upper lash line,

667
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Speaker 2: but you can't really smudge it out. Then you've got

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Speaker 2: the other end of the scale, which is like the

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Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham eyeliners that are so beautiful and creamy and smudgy,

670
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Speaker 2: but they're almost like a cream eyeshadow in a stick,

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Speaker 2: and they are just beautiful if you know what you're

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Speaker 2: doing or you want that really smudgy look, but you

673
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Speaker 2: can't really get precision. So just a traditional pencil, I

674
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Speaker 2: like a pencil like can sharpen. I know that is

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Speaker 2: very old school, the wind up ones. You can never

676
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Speaker 2: get sharp enough. Where is a sharp enough will get

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Speaker 2: you that crisp, crisp line. If it's the middle of winter,

678
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Speaker 2: you might need to warm it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean honestly, if it's still really chalky on the

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Speaker 2: back of your hand, it's not a good quality eye liner.

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Speaker 2: But in winter I will put anything that I need

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Speaker 2: to be warmed up, especially like my lipstick as well

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Speaker 2: down my bra because your body heat will warm it up.

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Speaker 2: And then I will always test my line on the

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Speaker 2: back of my hand just to make sure the sharpness

686
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Speaker 2: is right, to make sure if you have sharpened it.

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Speaker 2: There's no like pencilly bits you ever poke yourself in

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Speaker 2: the eye with a bit of a pencil. And again

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Speaker 2: for me, I will always only do upper lash line,

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Speaker 2: start at the pupil dot dot dot dot dot out

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Speaker 2: to the edge of my eye, and then use a angled

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Speaker 2: brush to blend only top lash line. Lower is very difficult.

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Speaker 2: I will never wear a dark color on my lower

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Speaker 2: lash line or on my lower lash line or mascara

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Speaker 2: only ever maybe a nude liner. Nothing else will go

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Speaker 2: under because it just drags my face down. So let

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Speaker 2: me show you. I'm gonna put the inner rim dark black,

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Speaker 2: just one eye, and you'll just see the difference it

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Speaker 2: makes to my entire face. So you can see, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, the one with the liner on the bottom lashes,

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Speaker 2: it just kind of closes my eye in, makes them

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Speaker 2: look smaller, and I just don't really need that. I

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: don't have huge eyes to begin with. Whereas the other

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Speaker 2: eye where I've left the liner off, I just think

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Speaker 2: it looks more fresh, It looks more open awake, like

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Speaker 2: oh we've wasted. I mean, it does look quite sexy

707
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: and quite cool, but for me and the overall look

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Speaker 2: I want for my face, also for the youthfulness, I

709
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Speaker 2: feel like it's a little bit aging. So that's why

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Speaker 2: I don't do it. And I don't have the skills

711
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Speaker 2: to manage concealer an under iron maintenance, and I just, yeah,

712
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Speaker 2: it feels more me without it. So most people would say,

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Speaker 2: don't do lower lash line anymore, but upper lash line

714
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Speaker 2: to more enhance rather than to be like, here's my eyeliner.

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Speaker 2: Whereas gels are very long wearing, so if you can't

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Speaker 2: touch up throughout the day, if you are a sweaty

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Speaker 2: eyelid person because as.

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Speaker 1: We say, or Ashmudja like myself.

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Speaker 2: But as we spoke about this in the skincare question,

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Speaker 2: the upper lids can be quite juicy and lubricated. I

721
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Speaker 2: have oily eyelids, so gels will set. There's just really

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Speaker 2: not a lot of working times. So you'll see people

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Speaker 2: doing tight lining. Remember we had that question just a

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Speaker 2: little while before. And tight lining is literally like in

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Speaker 2: the water rim, so in there and up there, it's

726
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Speaker 2: beautiful underneath. I'll sometimes do the upper inner rim.

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Speaker 1: That's the part of the eye that is between the

728
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Speaker 1: lash and the eyeball. Basically it's like white. Generally, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's already tings.

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Speaker 2: To be the security guard like zan, don't come in here.

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Speaker 1: And we're like ha ha, sucker, we're painting you.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I would do the upper one if I'm doing

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Speaker 2: tight lining. But again, gels just are not my vibe.

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Speaker 2: They're too setti they're set too fast. If you ever

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Speaker 2: do a liner, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: Just grab whatever looks fun and just like chuck it on.

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Speaker 2: But what like texture, Like you had a blue one

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Speaker 2: the other day that was liquid.

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Speaker 1: It depends on what look I'm going for. So I'll

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Speaker 1: use a pencil or something a lot smoogia if I

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Speaker 1: was doing a smoky sort of look, but I would

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Speaker 1: generally use a liquid liner if I'm doing any sort

743
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Speaker 1: of wing or anything that requires artistry of any kind, and.

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Speaker 2: You have that artistry that many people don't, so I

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Speaker 2: would just start with a good old pencil. And like

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Speaker 2: we say, play play, play, you are not going to

747
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Speaker 2: be good at aland and when you've got three minutes

748
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Speaker 2: to get to your wedding, definitely don't do that. Don't.

749
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Speaker 2: It's something that you have to play with, but less

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Speaker 2: it's more. And also brown brown is huge at the moment,

751
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: very flattering. Yeah, it used to be really hard to get,

752
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: but now brown is having a huge moment, very flattering.

753
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Speaker 2: And I sometimes use it to feel in my brows

754
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: too if I forgotten my brow pencil. Hack City.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you've got a question that you want

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Speaker 1: We'll link everything in the show notes after the break.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's favorite segment spendy, Savy and Lee, I am recommending

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Speaker 1: a by expensive body product that's won the Holy Grail Award.

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Speaker 1: So it's expensive for good reason.

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Speaker 2: Okay, doop doo doo.

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Speaker 1: It is time of the week where we give our

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Speaker 1: favorite beauty recommendations. What's been blowing our socks off, or

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Speaker 1: blowing our hair off our head, blowing our compression socks off,

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Speaker 1: our swollen hoofs. We give a expensive recommendation, So something

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit spendier, something a little bit more affordable.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we use Kelly Math. We're not even going to

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Speaker 1: get into that today. So Lee, what is your spendy

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's right up my alley. Well, I

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Speaker 1: must say when I purchased it, I was thinking of you.

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Speaker 1: So I went into Sephora and I got that amazing

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00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: setting spray that was all over social media, and then

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00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: in real life you showed me it's just as good.

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00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Ta Glass skin powder melt.

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Speaker 2: So it's called the one size B twelve base thinner

778
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: Vitamin Pearl Serum. It literally thins out foundations and makes

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00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: them customizable. It's sixty eight dollars, so expensive but amazing.

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00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: So I was at that stand I was looking at one.

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Speaker 2: I'd seen a lot about the brand, but I hadn't

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Speaker 2: tried anything. Bought this a few weeks ago. I've already

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: lost my lids. I'm sorry. Well it's actually my car downstairs.

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00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: But who needs Oh that product doesn't need a lid.

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00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: That's okay, thank you. Oh yeah, it's not like a

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00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: mascara that would be weird. That's in the lid. This

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00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: is a really interesting product, and I think you're gonna

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00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: love it. It is a base thinner. I know.

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I'm gonna like that.

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00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: I know. So basically, you add this. There's two shades.

791
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: This is like the light pearl, or there's a dark bronze.

792
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: You add this to any foundation or formulation that's too

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00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: heavy or too matt and then you can kind of

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00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: customize cheer out or luminize your foundation. Do you want

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: to have a play with that, I'm desperate. So it's

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Speaker 2: got an average of four point eight stars on Sephora,

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00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 2: and there's hundreds of reviews I think maybe even thousands. Yes,

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00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: a little goes a long way. However, you could use

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Speaker 2: that amount that you've pumped out, which is a really

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00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: big pump. Everybody as your base, so you could put

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: it on just if you've got beautiful, flawless skin. I know,

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00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: isn't that gorgeous. It's like holo, but not in a

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: kid like way. People do wear it just as a

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00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: beautiful glowy base. My skin's not that great, but I

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00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: have used it to shear out some formulas in winter

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00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: that I just you know, I couldn't wear that are

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00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: great for me for summer, but they're too drying.

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Speaker 1: It's wet. I love it.

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: You can honestly just add a teeny tiny drop. You

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: can like mix it into.

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Speaker 1: Your body side drench myself in.

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's expensive, well it's sixty eight dollars,

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: but let me tell you why. It's also a beautiful

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: standalone hydrating anti aging serum. So it's got vitamin B

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Speaker 2: twelve C and E seramid's hahyaleronic acid. And then the

816
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: light reflecting pigments that you're seeing there that's making you

817
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: so glowy. It's honestly the best way to transform any base.

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I've even had a tiny bit in a concealer that

819
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: was a bit too caky under my eye. Beautiful, I know.

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: I feel like this brand's doing some real different stuff.

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Speaker 1: They really are. Patrick Style is the founder, and they're

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00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: an incredible makeup artist, so it makes sense that they're

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Speaker 1: bringing out really cool, innovative products that actually are changing

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Speaker 1: the industry. My spendye is Mother.

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: It's humongous.

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Speaker 1: It's actually not. I think it's just a pretty standard

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Speaker 1: sized moisturizer Body Butter. This is the Mother Body Butter

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty four dollars. It won the Cosmopolitan

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Speaker 1: Holy Grail Beauty Award last year in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: for Best Body Butter. It was the Mother I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that's just the brand. Anyway you can get it. Like,

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: the packaging is very cool. It's in this shiny You don't.

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Speaker 2: Like it, No, I do. I just want to know

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Speaker 2: how much product is in there, because that looks like

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Speaker 2: a very heavy amount of packaging.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty mil Oh my god, are you

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Speaker 1: joking to know?

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00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: Not much? That is more than half packaging.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's more than that, and I will say that

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Speaker 1: that is also. Like the price made me not want

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Speaker 1: to try it because I was like, well, like, what's

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: the point of having one hundred and sixty four dollars

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00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: moist driizer? It doesn't matter how good it is by that,

844
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Speaker 1: but be at least three well that should be too,

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Speaker 1: fifty or three hundred grams. But I then decided to

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Speaker 1: try it because I was like, Okay, it's the winner

847
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: in America, huge market over there, harder to win anything

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Speaker 1: than over here, and it's hard enough here, So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give it a go. Oh my goodness, I

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Speaker 1: can see why it won in terms of moisturization. The

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: actual formula, it is so unique, is so interesting. I

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Speaker 1: still don't think that it is something that like, you

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Speaker 1: don't need this over a sixteen dollar moisturizer or a

854
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: sixty dollar moisturizer. But as someone that did have surgery

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Speaker 1: last week, I cannot tell you what a treat it

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Speaker 1: is to use something so luxurious, so thick, so creamy,

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Speaker 1: so beautiful, and it smells so expensive like an expensive

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Speaker 1: spa without being overpowering. It is such a treat. So

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful gift, either for yourself or someone else.

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00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Great, can you pass it to me? I was being

861
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: so patient? You were oh heavy, Okay, can I do

862
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: a little course. Yeah, it's very dent.

863
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh you do not need like what you just put

864
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: on your finger I would use on an entire leg.

865
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: That looks like cream cheese from a carrot cake. It's very,

866
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: very dense.

867
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: I've been mixing it with my almond body oil, the

868
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: uncented one, so I can make it last longer basically.

869
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's one hundred and sixty four dollars and

870
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: it's one hundred and sixty five meal.

871
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Did you say one hundred and sixty so it's a

872
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: dollar a meal. Yeah, so right now that's probably five dollars.

873
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that would actually do a whole limb. Yeah, exactly. God, yeah,

874
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: that is not at all what I thought. I thought

875
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: that was a moosy too fla. This is almost like

876
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: an emulsion, like it goes down to like oh beautiful

877
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: to do my whole body.

878
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a little bit goes a long way.

879
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: That's like cottie concentrate, like cordial concentrate. Like you're literally

880
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: as in like I thought, what she means is it cordial?

881
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: You mix like a tiny little bit with water to

882
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: get the best result, Like you do not need much

883
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: of this. That could have done my entire body, And

884
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: that was maybe like a pistachio. Do you see why

885
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: it won in terms of it. Now it's a lot,

886
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: but that's outrageous, Like it is so good. Look at

887
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: your and your arm. You will wake up in the

888
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: morning and your arm will still look that hydrated and moisturized.

889
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: All right, now, I'm going to try it. That is

890
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: the detox greens fragrance or smell, but it comes in

891
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ones. Doesn't smell it green or

892
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: detoxy to me, what is your savy? It's the NYX

893
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: butter melt bronze.

894
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh, now, anyone that's tried the Physician's Formula bronzer again,

895
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: same brand as my eyeliner, biggest best selling bronze in

896
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: all of America. By the way, that.

897
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: One one of the very first products that we spoke

898
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: about on the pod.

899
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: I hope very very similar, not saying a jupe, not

900
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: saying copied very similar.

901
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't even have similar packaging, So we do love.

902
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: It and copy butter in it. I guess. Oh, I

903
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: like the packaging though there's no mirror. Oh, I kind

904
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: of like that bar. So remember the fancy bronze that

905
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: I bought overseas immediately because I needed to try it.

906
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: It reminds me a bit of that. It's definitely a powder.

907
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: It smells good.

908
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: So so finely melled, quite pigmented. But if you lose it,

909
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: use a big fluffy brush and shake it off like

910
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: it's buildable.

911
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: That is stunning, right, that is stunning. It goes on

912
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: almost like a cream. It's that cramy. Yes, it's like

913
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: that soufle that Rihanna was talking about. It's kind of

914
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: an in between So full price, it's twenty three ninety nine.

915
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: I paid fourteen bucks at chemist Warehouse. I thought you

916
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: were trying to steal it.

917
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: How dare you? I love it And it looks like

918
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: I haven't used it, but I've used it quite a lot.

919
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, maybe the grooves are just like embedded. Some of

920
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: the grooves sometimes are just like lightly pressed on the

921
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: top and they leave straightaway, which is really annoying when

922
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: it's a fancy brand.

923
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: It's just so good. I'm really impressed. Okay, so what's

924
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: your savor then?

925
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: My savy is twenty two dollars full price. It is

926
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: the MC beauty glass skin highlight stick. I've got champagne.

927
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: Holy doly, it's beautiful.

928
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: It just looks wet.

929
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got the one that's inspired by and it's

930
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: incredibly similar. Oh is it.

931
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Inspired by something? Hmm, I did not know that. I

932
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: just thought it was.

933
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

934
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: But okay, well I don't know what it's inspired by,

935
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, it is stunning.

936
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: Have you put it on your cheeks? Yes, that's what

937
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: I've got on today. Oh did you find your hair? Well?

938
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: I did your hair? Your hair sticks to it? No,

939
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: but I did put a blush on over the top.

940
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: So I find I have to set in mind. You

941
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: know what it's so good for though, Just do a

942
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: little bit of your collar bone if you like going

943
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: to the movies. It's really beautiful on the body.

944
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: I just love. I find that a lot of highlight

945
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: sticks tend to be a little bit especially the more

946
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: affordable ones, tend to be more glittery, frosty, himmory. And

947
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: this is the first one I've tried that's actually more

948
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: just wet.

949
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, juicy, it's juicy. Some of the sticks try and

950
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: be a cream, but they really kind of just frosty,

951
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: and they don't mimic skin. Where is that mimic skin?

952
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I was very impressed.

953
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: I don't have a new b I'm sorry, but that's

954
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: because I wanted to talk about a most valuable player

955
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: on my face lately. Have you tried this brand, Zo

956
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: Skin Health.

957
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: I've heard of it. I don't think i've tried any Well,

958
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: there's products that is in silver packaging. This packaging is

959
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: like a beautiful, bright blue. This is something that I

960
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: just put on on its own at night. Good because

961
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: it's two hundred dollars. It's phenomenal.

962
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: So it's called the Zo Skin Health Recovery Cream two

963
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. Restoring, calming and barrier strengthening, deeply nourishing to

964
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: replenish severely dry, dehydrated or irritated skin. Guilty, I'm irritated.

965
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Honestly. You can put it over their serums

966
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: if you want to. But otherwise they're say, if it's

967
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: not their serums which are going to help with penetration,

968
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: just use it straight up. So I'll just my seller

969
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: and then.

970
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: Surely you could just use any serum.

971
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: But I don't want to because I'm lazy and this

972
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: is two hundred dollars and I just want it to do.

973
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: It's repairing, like okay, it doesn't need an assistant. It's

974
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: oh the next day, even My husband said, what have

975
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: you been doing to your face lately? And I'm like,

976
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: it's the LED and he's like, no, it's not. We

977
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: always do the LED. What else are you using, lads?

978
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: We always do the LED.

979
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: When we don't, we take chans. But he knew that

980
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: it was something extra. So in there you have got

981
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Seramides Beautiful for the barrier. It is two hundred bucks

982
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: and it's one of those sort of clinic brands that

983
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: you can't just get it everywhere, but go online and

984
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: read the reviews because there's millions of them.

985
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: My MVP is also a newbie. I hunted this down.

986
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: It's the Metacube PDRN Pink Collagen Volume Multi Bomb. Now

987
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: it's got five percent volufind in it, and I feel like,

988
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: let us know if you want us to talk about

989
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: volu find more because I have been seeing a lot

990
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: of buzz about it lately, but a lot of people

991
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: don't really know what it actually is, what it does,

992
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: and I definitely think that there's a lot to say

993
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: about the topic. I got it for thirty eight dollars

994
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: and fifty cents because it is one of those K

995
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: beauty products you can kind of get it for a

996
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: bunch of different prices. If you want to hear more

997
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: about volu, find because I think it's very cool the

998
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: concept and also just like a stick that you just

999
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: I've just been using it all the time. It's so cool.

1000
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: So it's a serum and a stick. And what does

1001
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: it do? Just hydrate you.

1002
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: Well, it's more than a serum. It's a balm. Oh

1003
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: so it just hydrates me, plumps out my skin. You

1004
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: can put it on under makeup, over makeup. It's so good.

1005
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: It's a nourishing farm to whack anywhere.

1006
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: But I love that it's in a little stick so

1007
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: you can just use it on the goal as well.

1008
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: You are very juicy all of a sudden.

1009
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,239
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1010
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,520
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1011
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1012
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1013
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1014
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1015
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