WEBVTT - Harriet Dyer Built A Hit Show. It Nearly Took Over Her Life 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.320 Hi, it's free player here, executive producer of No Filter. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.520 We heard you, and we are finally making it happen. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.119 Mama MEA. Subscribers now get exclusive early access to every 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.920 episode of No Filter, dropping every Saturday at six am. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.920 That's two full days before regular listeners. Listen on your 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.720 morning walk, while doing the kids' sports run, or before 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.759 heading out to dinner. Not a subscriber, you can tap 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.040 the link in the show notes right now and join us. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.920 Now, let's get into the episode. Yeah, because people go, oh, 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.560 my work wife, my work husband, and it's like that smoke. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.040 My work husband looks so much like my real husband. Weird, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.240 but it's good. Like I think, if you I married 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.080 the right person to do this with, do you know 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.160 what I mean? And I like to think he did too. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.240 Harriet Dyer has become one of Australia's biggest television success stories. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.960 She's the co creator, writer and star of Colin from Account, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.560 the little Australian comedy that became an international hit and 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.800 made audiences around the world fall in love with Harry 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.679 and her husband Patrick Bramle. But Harriet will tell you 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.000 she's never been the loudest person in the room. She 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.080 describes herself as genuinely shy, the kind of child who 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.520 hid behind her dad's leg on the first day of school, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.160 and the kind of actor who was rejected from Nider 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:33.199 twice before finding another way. In this conversation, Harriet talks 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.000 about growing up in Townsville, building a career one rejection 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.280 at a time, falling in love with Patrick, becoming a mother, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.880 and creating one of Australia's most beloved television shows. It's 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:52.080 a conversation about creativity, partnership and what happens when you 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.800 keep saying yes to things that scare you. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:56.960 This is Harriet Dyer. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.840 Oh, Harry Dyer, Yeah, babe. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.000 Welcome to no Filter. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.200 Great. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.280 You said you were nervous. Why are you nervous? 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.800 Because I like a filter? Oh okay, a filter. It 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:17.160 says none. Yeah, it says none, and I think I 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.600 need one. People close to me are like, oh, if 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:26.240 you're unfiltered, it's a problem, is it, really? I just 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.119 get an overshare hangover? 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.760 Oh okay, yeah, Well I think a lot of people do. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.960 But I'm always reminded of Jude Lucy said once in 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.960 her stand up years ago. Famous people are always like, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.440 I'm not going to talk about my private life, and 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:48.040 she said, I'm always like, why not. You are in 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.160 a slightly different situation now because you have gone from 0:02:54.120 --> 0:03:02.360 a beloved domestic product of ours and friend too international 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:03.679 little bit. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:09.800 But also it's like I think, I think I'm truly shy, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.960 but this job keeps forcing me to not be that. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.640 And now I have little kids, I'm like, that's your personality, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.760 Like you're that kind of and we nurture and in 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.400 the kids you can see their personality. And then I 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.840 think back to there was this video of my first 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.680 day of school when I was five in Townsville, and 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.440 like I would not come out from behind my dad's leg, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:35.800 behind the couch. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.600 Yeah, so shy at school. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.400 This was like in the house getting ready and my 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.839 hand in my mouth, head down. My sister twos old, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.920 just like it's Harry's first day and she was ready 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.800 to go, and I was like not coping. But then 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.960 that year at school, I think I had to learn 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.080 to pull something out because it was a pretty rough school. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.480 We moved schools after that. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:01.920 But. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.600 Our first year, our year one class had eighteen teachers. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.320 I think the kids were so fair. He just kept leaving, Oh, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.440 you're kidding, you know, it's like one a one by. Yeah. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.400 We were just like one question, just like there is 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.640 no teacher to this crew. They were feral. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.719 What in firsty we're. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.800 Five years old and and and they just kept leaving. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.880 And I think in a in an effort to survive, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.200 I just got quite good at I don't know, being funny, you're. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:40.160 Right, or a situation that you could feel was happening 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.360 even about just like join the rabble. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.320 You're right. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.320 And so now I'm like in this industry where it's like, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.919 you know, be beyond and be good at it. My 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.240 party is really good at it. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.400 Yeah, and he has got a real kind of ease. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.200 There doesn't seem to be a demarcation with him. He's 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:02.560 got no anxiety him and him and sort of private him. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.520 Yeah, obviously he's more himself at home. But he's not 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:08.239 that different. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:09.800 Do you think you are? 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:15.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm an introbute. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.000 But see, I think a lot of performers. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.800 I'm not alone there for sure, but I yeah, I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.320 just get anxious about I don't. I don't, I don't. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.279 I am scared of being misunderstood or something. But also 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.839 I've got to remember that the best version of me 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.000 is the one that relaxes. And it's just because when 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.000 you're tight, and it's not gonna be good. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.120 No, no, okay, we don't want that. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.000 We don't want that happen, we say next to that one. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.719 But but like, okay, so I had a very beautiful 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.320 encounter with your husband. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.040 I'm so sorry you had to talk to. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.000 Him really. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:55.080 Actually not in front of him. Yeah, that's I'm so gross. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.240 I don't want to hurt his feeling. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.320 But he spoke, you know, when someone just speaks with 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:08.480 love about someone, Yes, and not only I was talking 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.920 to a girlfriend about this recently. Who's for the first 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.520 time really going out with someone who approves of them? 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:19.359 You know that difference his total approval of you is 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:26.440 really beautiful and it's launched like a great adventure for 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.159 you to creatively as well as well as personally. Yeah, 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.839 he's in my corner for sure. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.919 But when you were little five year old Harry parting 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.599 behind your dad's leg, like, who, what were you like then? 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.159 And what was TOWNSVI like? 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.760 Well, I really I really think I found myself in performance. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.640 So it wasn't just in like surviving that rabble of 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.960 kids but I got really quickly into dance and speech 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.400 and drama, right, yes, singing. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:59.640 So they offered that at school. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.719 No, I did a lot of extracurriculus. I can. And 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.320 also there's a really active amateur theater scene in Townsville, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.840 really huge dram babe. And so we were by the 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.760 time I was seven, I was doing like I was 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.280 in musicals to big, you know, six hundred seater and 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.240 what musicals? First one was Annie, but my sister was 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.640 Annie and I was Molly. Oh right, chead the curly 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.320 red Wig. It's a hard not life back babe. And 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.120 I loved that. And I think I got kind of 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:37.600 bitten by the bug of performing. And that's where I realized. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.480 I was like, oh, this is me, and I don't 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.320 I know how to show all my feathers here? 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:41.920 Right? 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.680 And also people clap and they don't cut when you 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:45.559 do a math test. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:46.720 No, No, they don't. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.600 In fact, these they discouraged that it's really only at 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.720 school athletics. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:58.040 Yeah, those people get a lot of applause. They're driven 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.000 by something else. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:05.559 Yeah, But and performance, yeah, and there's something in it 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:10.000 which feels like the antithesis of it. But you can 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:10.800 hide in it. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.200 Yeah, so you're showing yourself. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.440 Yes and yet not yes, Like poor Jess out there 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.120 wanted me to walk around the office and look at 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.640 everyone's dog and do like a social thing. And I 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.240 started to die a bit, right because I don't know 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.760 how to just walk around and be funny right like 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.400 people have been like you should just stand up. I 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.120 will fall into a pile of ashes like that woman 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.120 cremated herself. Well done. But I can do it if 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.520 I'm someone else. So it's so good. If I'm like 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.040 Ashley and Colin or a in a play, that's just 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:50.439 the best. So I feel like, you know, impenetrable. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.719 But also I think stand up is a very I've 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.319 spent a lot of my life working with stand up comedians, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:01.560 mostly me, and I think it's a very different media 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.959 because it's not collaborative. No, so a comedian is. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.960 Like that's you all will sit there in the dark, listen. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.040 I will have a spotlight on me and I will 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.120 make you laugh nightmare, whereas your work is very collaborative. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, never alone. Yeah true. And I've not 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.560 done a one woman show. But even that, you've got 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.000 a direct eye, you've got you've got some crew. Yes, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.280 but yeah no, I do like a cob to the audience. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.160 I supp exactly. Yeah yeah, But then at what point 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.680 did you go did Molly go home? 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.719 This is I could have a career in this right, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 At what point did you go or that it was 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.400 more than just something that you enjoyed as a kid. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:54.440 I kept winning awards? Did you only humble brag? I couldn't. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.960 I can't help, But the answer is I kept getting 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:02.560 trophies boom, and and you kind of got to listen 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.880 to the feedback. Like the feedback was good, and then 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.079 it became a bit like not just towns Fall feedback, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.760 but like North Queensland and Queensland feedback. And like there 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.480 was some big competition, the Festival of One Act Plays 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.800 or something, and they had so many participants and I 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.280 think I was about twelve, and I won best Actor 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.720 in the whole thing. Oh and I was up against 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.000 like adults. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:29.840 What was it? 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.520 What was I can't remember what you did? I can't remember. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.720 Maybe I was playing like a funny old lady a right, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:41.120 But this adjudicator from Brisbane political well it just big, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.200 big smile. He was like, this kid's got it, And 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.480 so I just was like, I think I've got to 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.560 listen to that. And also I wasn't excelling in anything else. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.240 Oh pretty good at music, right, yes? 0:10:54.280 --> 0:11:00.880 Almost almost. Actually I applied to do jazz vocal performance 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.800 at the Conservatorium of Music in Queensland and I got 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.240 in on my singing, but I failed the theory test right, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.840 and they're like, if you do six months hardcore theory, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.600 it will pop you in. And I thought boring, but you. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.199 Were a scatter. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.880 I was doing a minute a little bit and now 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.160 I'm like, Wow, if they'd accepted me, we wouldn't be 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.000 city talking. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.160 Well, it's interesting because they knew you. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.640 Also auditioned for NIDER YEP, didn't get in. Twice YEP 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.120 didn't get in, Which is I never auditioned for NIDER. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.120 I auditioned for VCA. Oh yeah, did I get into that? 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:36.880 Didn't get I don't think I auditioned for vc. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.640 NIDER are famously bruising And how was it for you? 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.640 Can you remember the first time? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.840 I remember I remember a terrible moment where they just 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.520 they're sitting there just kind of telling you what life's like. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.120 And I'm from Townsville as I as I've mentioned, and 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.959 I had borrowed a car or something, and it was 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.360 really epic part of the audition. Maybe it was like 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.079 they were walking through your second callback monologue, this is 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:08.959 what you have to do. And suddenly I realized I'd 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.720 pucked in the clearway. Oh no, and it was three 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.000 point thirty and it was the clearway was three to seven, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.280 and I think I'd been left. I think I wasn't 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.080 expecting to be that long in the day. And suddenly 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.400 it was like, I'm so sorry, I have to go 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.360 and move my echo right, my little yellow yellow Toyota echo, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.240 and it wasn't there, and it was somewhere else, and 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:31.679 I just came back and I was so kind of 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.040 thrown by it, but I still did. Like I can't 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.360 blame that. I just don't think I was going to 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.920 get in. No, but that's a very strange thing to do. Yeah, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.080 I think I made it through the next round, so 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.640 the echo didn't kill me. But I didn't. I think 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:45.880 I did. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.760 I never got past that round two, okay, and then 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.840 but it was enough for you to go, I'm going 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:51.640 to do this again. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:52.800 I'm going to audition again. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.480 Or yeah, I got in. I never actually studied there. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.960 So I then got into a part time course there 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.079 called Singer Answer Actor. So it was a music theater 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.200 thing and it was every night and all day Saturday, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.760 so it was a big course. It was like five 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.720 to nine pretty much Monday to Friday. So I'd work 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.760 all day at Collier's real Estate, oh Industrial real Estate 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.720 or Gloria Jeans. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.679 I worked up for some of them, okay, yeah. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:22.240 And then nighttime coffee yeah, dosh your grind, nighttime on 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.200 you know, singing, dancing, acting, and then Saturday was this 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:33.520 insane day called master class where you'd sit there was 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.440 like fourteen of us in the class, and there'd be 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.920 maybe three people on a Saturday, and they'd get up 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.600 and they do a song and basically the person who 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.839 ran it, she was amazing, but she's terrifying, and she'd 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.240 basically kind of tay your to shreds. Is an intense 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.439 thing to say, yes because she made me a better performer, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.000 but she pulled it apart, you know, and she had 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.920 stuff to say and it. Yeah, it was a scary 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.200 day and you'd just sit there so sweaty, just so sweaty. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.240 You know that book Have you read that book? Respect 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.560 for Acting? That book? 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.000 You know what I bought it. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.920 Yeah, okay, so I read it but didn't end up 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:12.440 being an actor. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.120 Tell me about it. Well, there's a great quote in 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.680 there where you must have respect. It was you must 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.600 have respect for acting. So sad that I bought it. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.640 I think it was it was the other famous acting 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.880 teacher who had the school in New York. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.800 And oh that guy, No, he's another one. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.880 Yeah, anyway, he's oh, the one in New York. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.000 Yeah, my brain's gone. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:36.880 Anyway. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:43.160 Whatever he says in this book would that the stage 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.040 were as narrow and treacherous as a tight rope, that 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.920 the untalented would not dare to treat upon it, which 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.560 I've always sort of remembered because I think a part 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.520 of me was like the untalented, I do not treat 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.480 upon it. But there's something to be said for you 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:06.120 encountering these things that you pushed against that might cow 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.400 some people and might stop them in their tracks. The 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.120 more people are defeated, yeah than pushed through. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:13.640 Yeah. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.840 And what was it in you that went even when 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.080 you were at a masterclass getting rich to shreds or 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.040 you're a getting the rejection, What was the germ in you, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.320 the seed that dared to still look for the sun. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.760 Because I knew I could only get better. I knew 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.600 I had talent, Yeah, but I didn't think I was 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.760 like an oil painting so I wasn't going to get 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.200 in that way. I was like, I look fine, but 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.240 I know I'm talented, and I just did have enough 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.760 of a belief to go. It's important to fail in 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.840 front of these people. It's important to train. I would 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.480 never dare to think that I would just be handed 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.320 a job without a huge amount of training. I just yeah, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.720 I also think it's important to fail in a more 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.800 supportive environment, like it was scary, but everyone's failing. Yes, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.200 it was these beautiful fourteen people that we just constantly 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.120 failed in front of each other. And then after that 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.840 I did a two and a half year acting course. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.040 More failure, but I knew that you had to do it. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.840 And I still think. I've like I've looked at professional 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.520 jobs and gone. I think, I look at everything I 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.560 do and I just want to be better than the 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.840 last thing. But everything I think when you're you know, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.960 we're all sensitive, but everything is scary and you have 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.520 to just keep showing up. I was knitting in a 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.240 coffee shop once when I was on a Bell Shakespeare 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.400 tour and I was going all around Australia with this 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.920 play and it said there was a quote on the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.520 wall that said a ship in a harbor is safe, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:52.040 but this is not. Chips are four, And I like, okay, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.880 I got it. Just you know that's me wa, I 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.960 just got it. That's the five year old, that's shy. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.600 Just keep going out a ship. 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:01.760 You're a ship. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.200 But also I couldn't stop, and then I'll just go, Oh, 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.960 I don't want regret until I'm really old. But I 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.040 know that I need to get better all the time. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.160 Because there comes a point often too in an actor's life, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.080 if they've reached some success, some external success as well, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.760 where you go from being someone who's pitching yourself against 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.640 these challenges and failing and being prepared to fail. Where 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.520 you enter an environment, particularly you would know from Hollywood 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.639 now where you're really coseted and insulated, and at that 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.320 point growth can stop. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.040 Yeah, and you can get a bit precious, yes. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.800 And also there's a vibrating there's a whole world constructed 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.640 around you and your comfort and your needs. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.520 God, it makes monsters, truly. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.800 And so now that you have moved to Hollywood, and 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.560 you've had this success with Colin. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.280 Do you think there's a life like before Colin and 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.680 after Colin for you? Yeah? 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.000 Maybe? Yeah, because that show I did in I did 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.360 twenty episodes of a show in Montreal before we came 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.280 here to do season three of Colin, and that's been canceled. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.760 That was called DMV. But I was number one on 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.840 that show, which means you're the lead and oh my god, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.640 you're like, you've basically got Butler's yes and everyone everyone's 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.560 just taking care of you. And I was a bit 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.320 of a special case because I had to keep going 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.399 to my trailer in any time off to write this season. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.920 So I was doing a few things with the two 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.760 kids as well. It was a lot going on, but 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.879 my needs were very met. Day one of Colin, we 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.800 were shooting in Centennial Park and it's my show. Like 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.000 me and Patty other bosses, I'm also number one or 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.240 nomber two. It doesn't matter. I'm number one. It'll just 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.560 be nice. But I just couldn't get I was. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.720 Like, where do I sit? 0:18:58.880 --> 0:18:59.960 Yeah, where's my chair? 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:00.280 Yeah? 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.440 And that felt I had to like shove down this 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.120 in a diva that had almost grown in Montreal, where I. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.560 Got very used to being told there's your water, Yeah. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.960 Of course, And they had put out like two cast 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.320 chairs and then just randoms were sitting it. Not randoms, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:17.919 but like. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.280 People who shouldn't have been sitting in. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.080 I just needed some Also, I think I was very nervous. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.240 This is the five shy year old, shy year old 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.800 five year old there, she is a seat for me, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.159 especially on the set, is somewhere to just charge. And 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.399 I started to panic. I'm like, if I've got a 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.959 if I if I can't because the scene we're doing 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.359 is walking walking talk. We just back and forth and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.959 Pat can do that all day and I just was like, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.919 but I and I didn't want to seem like a diva. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.800 So day one I was like, oh, I'll just get it. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.439 I'll just and I just found myself just sitting on 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.280 like a route under a tree, and I'm like, We've 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.439 come a long way since TMV, but it's important, yes, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.320 And now if I went back into an American job, 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.399 I've got to remember to see it for what it is, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.120 which is like, this is how monsters are made. Some 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.600 of the cast I worked with in Montreal, like one 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.560 guy we had this kind of common area and he 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.480 was like, I want a treadmill, I want a stat machine, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.920 and I want a stationary bike and a big TV. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.320 Within four hours he had a full gym. Yeah, okay, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.840 And is that a good thing? I don't know. Like 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.640 that creates It's set a tone where it's like, quick, 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.119 get that guy what he wants. And that's insane. That 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.000 would never happen here, and nor should it. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:38.280 No, that's wrong. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.359 So the industry covers like a gamut whether you're working 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.040 there or here. And I prefer to be the person 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:48.919 that can handle to sit on a tree route and 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:50.000 just recharge quietly. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.120 Well, because that goes back to what you were saying 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.080 about how you always want to get better and you 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.480 want to grow, and yeah. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.520 There is I don't want to be that. Yeah, there's 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:58.639 no growth without pain. 0:20:58.920 --> 0:20:58.960 No. 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.480 No, you're listening to no Filter more with Harriet Dye 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:14.840 in just a moment. What was your biggest professional pain, 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.560 like where you found the growth? 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.879 Oh, that's a good question. I found it really hard 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.400 working on that. I did a movie with Elizabeth Moss 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.439 where I played her sister, an invisible man, and I 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.840 get killed in this restaurant scene and it was really hectic, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.560 and they'd made this rig where it was kind of 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.639 silicon and painted into me and they my throat was 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.159 slit and all this blood came out. And it was 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:48.879 a night shoot in a restaurant. It was like two 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.520 or three am. And they did all Lizzie's coverage. First, 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.760