WEBVTT - Harriet Dyer Built A Hit Show. It Nearly Took Over Her Life 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.320 Hi, it's free player here, executive producer of No Filter. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.520 We heard you, and we are finally making it happen. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.119 Mama Mia. Subscribers now get exclusive early access to every 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.920 episode of No Filter, dropping every Saturday at six am. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.920 That's two full days before regular listeners. Listen on your 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.720 morning walk, while doing the kids' sports run, or before 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.720 heading out to dinner. Not a subscriber, you can tap 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.040 the link in the show notes right now and join us. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.960 Now, let's get into the episode. Yeah, because people go, oh, 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.120 my work wife, my work husband, and it's like that 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.000 smoke that is my work husband looks so much like 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:43.000 my real husband. Weird, but it's good. Like I think, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.720 if you I married the right person to do this with, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.320 do you know what I mean? And I like to 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.160 think he did too. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.240 Harriet Dyer has become one of Australia's biggest television success stories. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.960 She's the co creator, writer and star of Colin from Account, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.560 the little Australian comedy that became an international hit and 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.840 made audiences around the world fall in love with Harry 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.679 and her husband, Patrick Bramle. But Harriet will tell you 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.000 she's never been the loudest person in the room. She 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.080 describes herself as genuinely shy, the kind of child who 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.280 hid behind her dad's leg on the first day of school, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.160 and the kind of actor who was rejected from Nider 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:33.199 twice before finding another way. In this conversation, Harriet talks 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.000 about growing up in Townsville, building a career one rejection 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.280 at a time, falling in love with Patrick, becoming a mother, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.880 and creating one of Australia's most beloved television shows. It's 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:52.080 a conversation about creativity, partnership and what happens when you 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.160 keep saying yes to things that scare you. This is 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.840 Harriet Dyer. Oh, Harry Dyer, Yeah, babe. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.000 Welcome to no Filter. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.200 Great. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.240 You said you were nervous. Why are you nervous? 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:13.519 Because I like a filter? Oh okay, filter It says none. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.120 Yeah, it says none. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:19.680 And I think I need one. People close to. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.440 Me are like, oh, if you're unfiltered, it's a problem, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:24.520 is it, really? 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.119 I just get an overshare hangover? 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.760 Oh okay, yeah, Well I think a lot of people do. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.960 But I'm always reminded of Jude Lucy said once in 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.960 her stand up years ago. Famous people are always like, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.440 I'm not going to talk about my private life, and 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:48.040 she said, I'm always like, why not. You are in 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.160 a slightly different situation now because you have gone from 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:59.600 a beloved domestic product of ours and friend. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:06.840 Too international little bit. But also it's like I think, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.600 I think I'm truly shy, but this job keeps forcing 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.440 me to not be that. And now I have little kids, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.600 I'm like, that's your personality, Like you're that kind of 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.560 and we nurture I mean in the kids you can 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.400 see their personality. And then I think back to there 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.760 was this video of my first day of school when 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.480 I was five in Townsville, and like I would not 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.800 come out from behind my dad's leg, behind the couch. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.600 Yeah, so shy at school. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.400 This was like in the house getting ready and my 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.839 hand in my mouth, head down. My sister two years old, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.920 was like it's Harry's first day and she was ready 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.800 to go, and I was like not coping. But then 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.960 that year at school, I think I had to learn 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.080 to pull something out because it was a pretty rough school. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:05.160 We moved schools after that, but our first year, our 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.680 year one class had eighteen teachers. I think the kids 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:13.160 were so fair. What do you mean, Kepaving oh you're kidding, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.480 you know how it's like one a one yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.640 we were just like one question. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:18.120 It's just like. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.599 There is no teacher to this crew. They were feral. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.320 What in first year? 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.800 We're five years old and and and they just kept leaving. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.880 And I think in a in an effort to survive, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.880 I just got quite good at I don't know, being 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.279 funny you're. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.520 Right, or diffusing, diffusing a situation that you could feel 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.000 was happening, even about like join. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.359 The rabble, you're right. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.320 And so now I'm like in this industry where it's like, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.360 you know, beyond and be good at it. My party 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.240 is really good at it. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.880 Yeah, and I ye, he has got a real kind 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.880 of ease. There doesn't seem to be a demarcation with him. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:02.560 He's him and him and sort of private him. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:03.640 Yeah. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.239 Obviously he's more himself at home. But he's not that different. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.640 Do you think you are? Yeah? 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm an introbute. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.000 But see, I think a lot of performers. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.800 I'm not alone there for yes, but I yeah, I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.320 just get anxious about I don't. I don't, I don't. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.279 I am scared of being misunderstood or something. But also 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.839 I've got to remember that the best version of me 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.240 is the one that relaxes. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.320 Yes, And it's just because when you're tight, and it's 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.000 not gonna be good. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.640 No, okay, we don't want that. We don't want that happening, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.000 we say next to that one. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.719 But but like, okay, so I had a very beautiful 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.320 encounter with your husband. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:45.960 I'm so sorry you had to talk to. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.840 Him really. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.720 Actually not in front of him. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.480 Yeah, that's you know, I'm so gross. I don't want 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:56.240 to hurt his feeling. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.320 But he spoke, you know, when someone just speaks with 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:08.480 love about someone, Yes, and not only I was talking 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.920 to a girlfriend about this recently. Who's for the first 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.520 time really going out with someone who approves of them? 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:19.359 You know that difference his total approval of you is 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:26.440 really beautiful and it's launched like a great adventure for 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.480 you to creatively as well as well as personally. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.839 Yeah, he's in my corner for sure. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.839 But when you were little five year old Harry hiding 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.599 behind your dad's leg, like, who, what were you like then? 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.159 And what was TOWNSV like? 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.760 Well, I really I really think I found myself in performance. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.040 So it wasn't just in like surviving that rabble of kids. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:58.400 But I got really quickly into dance and speech and drama, right, yes, singing. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:59.640 So they offered that at school. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.880 No, I did a lot of extracurriculus. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:02.520 I can. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:07.320 And also there's a really active amateur theater scene in Townsville, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.840 really huge dram babe, And so we were by the 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.760 time I was seven, I was doing like I was 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.280 in musicals to big, you know, six hundred seater and 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.520 what musicals? First one was Annie, but my sister was Annie, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.640 and I was Molly. Oh right, che on the curly 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.360 red wig. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.160 It's a hard not life back. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.040 And I loved that, and I think I got kind 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:36.880 of bitten by the bug of performing. And that's where 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.880 I realized. I was like, oh, this is me, and 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.960 I don't I know how to show all my feathers here, right. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.680 And also people clap and they don't care when you 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:45.559 do a math test. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:46.720 No, no, they don't. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.600 In fact, these they discouraged that it's really only at 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:56.560 school athletics. Yeah, those people get a lot of applause. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.000 They're driven by something else. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:00.520 Yeah. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.120 But and performance, yeah. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.440 And there's something in it which feels like the antithesis 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.800 of it, but you can hide in it. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:16.360 Yeah, so you're showing yourself yes and yet not yes. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.480 Like poor Jess out there wanted me to walk around 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.240 the office and look at everyone's dog and do like 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.760 a social thing, and I started to die a bit, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.320 right because I don't know how to just walk around 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.880 and be funny right like people have been like, you 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.160 should just stand up, and I'm like, I will fall 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.960 into a pile of ashes, like that woman cremated herself. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.600 Well done. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.280 But I can do it if I'm someone else. So 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.800 it's so good. If I'm like Ashley and Colin or 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.120 a in a play, that's just the best. So I 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.400 feel like, you know, impenetrable. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.719 But also I think stand up is a very I've 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.319 spent a lot of my life working with stand up comedians, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:01.560 mostly me, and I think it's a very different media 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:07.080 because it's not collaborative. No, So a comedian is like 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.960 that's you will all sit there in the dark, listen, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.040 I will have a spotlight on me and I will 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.120 make you laugh nightmare, whereas your work is very collaborative. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, never alone. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:18.960 Yeah true. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.280 And I've not done a one woman show, but even that, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.000 you've got a direct eye. You've got you've got some crew, yes, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.760 but yeah, no, I do like and you're collaborating with 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.000 the audience, I supposeactly. Yeah yeah. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.680 But then at what point did you go, did Molly 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.719 go this is I could have a career in this right? 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 At what point did you go or that it was 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.400 more than just something that you enjoyed as a kid? 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:54.440 I kept winning awards, did only in humble brag. I couldn't. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.960 I can't help, But the answer is I kept getting 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:02.000 trophies boom, right, and and you kind of got to 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.760 listen to the feedback. Like the feedback was good. And 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.079 then it became a bit like not just towns for feedback, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.760 but like North Queensland and Queensland feedback, and like there 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.480 was some big competition the Festival of One Act Plays 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.800 or something, and they had so many participants and I 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.280 think I was about twelve, and I won Best Actor 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.720 in the whole thing. Oh and I was up against 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.040 like adults. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:29.840 What was it? 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.520 What was I can't remember what you did? I can't remember. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.720 Maybe I was playing like a funny old lady a right, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:41.880 but this adjudicator from Brisbane political well, it just big, big, big, smile. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.520 He was like, this kid's got it, and so I 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.240 just was like, I think I've got to listen to that. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.640 And also I wasn't excelling in anything else. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.240 Oh pretty good at music, right, yes? 0:10:54.280 --> 0:11:00.880 Almost almost. Actually I applied to do jazz vocal performance 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.800 at the Conservatorium of Music in Queensland and I got 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.240 in on my singing, but I failed the theory test right, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.840 and they're like, if you do six months hardcore theory, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.360 it will pop you in. And I thought boring, but 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.800 you were a scatter. I was doing a minute a 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.800 little bit and now I'm like, wow, if they'd accepted me, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.000 we wouldn't be city talking. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.040 Well reck is interesting because they knew you. Also auditioned 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:27.920 for NIDER. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.720 YEP, didn't get in. Twice YEP didn't get in, Which 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.360 is I never auditioned for NIDER. I auditioned for VCA. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.760 Oh yeah, did I get into that? Didn't get I 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:36.760 don't think I auditioned for v. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:37.480 But it can be. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.640 Nider are famously bruising and how was it for you? 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.560 Can you remember the first time? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.840 I remember I remember a terrible moment where they just 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.520 they're sitting there just kind of telling you what life's like. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.120 And I'm from Townsville as I as I've mentioned, and 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.959 I had borrowed a car or something, and it was 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.360 really epic part of the audition. Maybe it was like 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.079 they were walking through your second callback monologue, this is 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:08.959 what you have to do. And suddenly I realized I'd 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.720 pucked in the clearway. Oh no, and it was three 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.000 point thirty and it was the clearway was three to seven, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.280 and I think I'd been left. I think I wasn't 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.080 expecting to be that long in the day. And suddenly 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.400 it was like, I'm so sorry, I have to go 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.360 and move my echo right, my little yellowiss yellow Toyota echo, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.240 and it wasn't there, and it was somewhere else and 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:31.679 I just came back and I was so kind of 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.040 thrown by it, but I still did. Like I can't 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.360 blame that. I just don't think I was going to 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.920 get in. No, but that's a very strange thing to do. Yeah, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.080 I think I made it through the next round. So 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.640 the echo didn't kill me, but I didn't. I think 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.360 I did. I never got past that round two, okay, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.480 and then but it was enough for you to go, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:51.640 I'm going to do this again. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.079 I'm going to audition again. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.480 Or yeah, I got in. I never actually studied there. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.920 So I then got into a part time cause there 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.079 called singer answer Actor. So it was a music theater 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.200 thing and it was every night and all day Saturday, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.760 so it was a big course. It was like five 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.720 to nine pretty much Monday to Friday. So I'd work 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.760 all day at Collier's real Estate, oh, Industrial real Estate 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.720 or Gloria Jeans. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.000 I worked up for some of them, Okay, yeah. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.000 And then night dime drill coffee, Yeah, does your grind 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:27.040 nighttime you know, singing, dancing, acting, And then Saturday was 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:33.400 this insane day called master Class where you'd sit there 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.160 was like fourteen of us in the class and there'd 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.520 me be maybe three people on a Saturday, and they'd 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.960 get up and they do a song. And basically the 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.080 person who ran it, she was amazing, but she's terrifying, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.600 and she'd basically kind of te your to shreds is 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.360 an intense thing to say, yes because she made me 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.120 a better performer, but she pulled it apart, you know, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.280 and she had stuff to say and it. Yeah, it 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.880 was a scary day and you'd just sit there so sweaty, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:01.199 just so sweaty. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.240 You know that book? Have you read that book Respect 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.560 for Acting? That new Hargen book? 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.559 You know what? I bought it. Yeah, I didn't read it. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.640 Didn't read it. Okay, So I read it but didn't 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.920 end up being an act o. God, tell me about it. Well, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.160 there's a great quote in there where you must have respect. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.720 It was you must have respect for acting? 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.600 No, I bought it. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.640 I think it was it was the other famous acting 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:25.800 teacher who had. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:26.920 The school in New York. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.800 And oh that guy, No, he was another one. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.880 Yeah, anyway, he's oh the one in New York. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:34.800 Yeah, my brain. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:36.880 Anyway. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:43.160 Whatever he says in this book would that the stage 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.240 were as narrow and treacherous as a tightrope, that the 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.120 untalented would not dare to treat upon it, which I've 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.680 always sort of remembered because I think a part of 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.000 me was like the untalented, I do not treat upon it. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.440 But there's something to be said for you encountering these 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.920 things that you pushed against that might cow some people 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.280 and might stop them in their tracks. With more people 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.680 are defeated, yeah, than pushed through. And what was it 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.880 in you that went even when you were at a masterclass, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.280 getting rich to shreds or you're getting the rejection. What 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.680 was the germ in you? The seed that dared to 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:27.920 still look for the. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.480 Sun because I knew I could only get better. I 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.440 knew I had talent, yeah, but I didn't think I 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.600 was like an oil painting, so I wasn't going to 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.880 get in that way. I was like, I look fine, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.640 but I know I'm talented, and I just did have 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.640 enough of a belief to go. It's important to fail 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.520 in front of these people. It's important to train. I 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.960 would never dare to think that I would just be 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.800 handed a job without a huge amount of training. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:00.280 I just yeah. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.720 I also think it's important to fail in a more 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.800 supportive environment, like it was scary, but everyone's failing. Yes, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.200 it was these beautiful fourteen people that we just constantly 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.120 failed in front of each other. And then after that, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.840 I did a two and a half year acting course. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.040 More failure, but I knew that you had to do it. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.840 And I still think. I've like I've looked at professional 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.520 jobs and gone. I think I look at everything I 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.560 do and I just want to be better than the 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.840 last thing. But everything I think when you're you know, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.960 we're all sensitive, but everything is scary, and you have 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.520 to just keep showing up. I was knitting in a 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.240 coffee shop once when I was on a Bell Shakespeare 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.760 tour and I was going all around Australia with this play, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.160 and it said there was a quote on the wall 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.080 that said a ship in a harbor is safe, but 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.040 this is not. Chips are four, And I like, okay, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.440 I got it. Just you know, that's me to the 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.520 wa I just got it. That's the five year old 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.560 that's shy. Just keep going out a ship. 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:01.760 You're a ship. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.200 But also I could stop and then I'll just go Oh. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.960 I don't want regret until I'm really old, but I 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.400 know that I need to get better all the time. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.160 Because there comes a point often too in an actor's life, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.080 if they've reached some success, some external success as well, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.760 where you go from being someone who's pitching yourself against 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.640 these challenges and failing and being prepared to fail. Where 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.520 you enter an environment, particularly you would know from Hollywood 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.639 now where you're really coseted and insulated, and at that 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.320 point growth can stop. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.720 Yeah, and you can get a bit precious. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:44.000 Yes, And also there's a vibrating there's a whole world 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.680 constructed around you. Yes, and your comfort and your needs. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.520 God, it makes monsters, truly. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.800 And so now that you have moved to Hollywood and 0:17:54.840 --> 0:18:00.000 you've had this success with Colin, do you think there's. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.320 A life like before Colin and after Colin for you? 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:03.720 Yeah? 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.000 Maybe? Yeah, because that show I did in I did 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.360 twenty episodes of a show in Montreal before we came 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.280 here to do season three of Colin, and that's been canceled. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.760 That was called DMV. But I was number one on 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.840 that show, which means you're the lead, and oh my god, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.640 you're like, you've basically got Butler's yes and everyone everyone's 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.560 just taking care of you. And I was a bit 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.320 of a special case because I had to keep going 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.399 to my trailer in any time off to write this season. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.920 So I was doing a few things with the two 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.760 kids as well. It was a lot going on, but 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.879 my needs were very met. Day one of Colin, we 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.800 were shooting in Centennial Park and it's my show. Like 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.960 me and Patty other bosses. I'm also number one or 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.240 number two, doesn't matter, I'm number one. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:53.800 Just be nice. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.560 But I just couldn't get I was. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.159 Like, why do I sit yeah, where's my cheese? 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.440 And that felt I had to like shove down this 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.920 in a diva that had almost grown in Montreal, where 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.680 I got very used to being told there's your water, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.960 of course, and they had put out like two cast 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.320 chairs and then just randoms were sitting it. Not randoms, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:17.919 but like. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.520 People who shouldn't have been sitting in them. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.080 I just needed someone. Also, I think I was very nervous. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.520 This is the five shy year old, shi year old 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:30.480 five year old is a seat for me, especially on 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.760 the set, is somewhere to just charge. And I started 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.680 to panic. I'm like, if I've got a if I 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.080 if I can't because the scene WHI we're doing is 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.359 walking walk, you talk. We just back and forth and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.959 Pat can do that all day and I just was like, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.919 but I and I didn't want to seem like a diva. 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:49.800 So day one I was like, oh, I'll just get it. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.479 I'll just and I just found myself just sitting on 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.280 like a route under a tree, and I'm like, We've 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.479 come a long way since TMV, but it's important, yes, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.320 And now if I went back into an American job, 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.399 I've got to remember to see it for what it is. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.120 Which is like, this is how monsters are made. Some 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.840 of the cast I worked with in Montreal, like one guy, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.959 we had this kind of common area and he was like, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.600 I want a treadmill, I want a stat machine, and 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.840 I want a stationary bike and a big TV. Within 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.960 four hours he had a full gym. Yeah, okay, And 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.480 is that a good thing? I don't know. Like that 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.920 creates It's set a tone where it's like, quick, get 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.360 that guy what he wants. And that's insane. That would 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.359 never happen here, and. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.280 Nor should it. No, that's wrong. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.359 So the industry covers like a gamut whether you're working 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.040 there or here. And I prefer to be the person 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:48.919 that can handle to sit on a tree route and 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:50.000 just recharge quietly. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.120 Well, because that goes back to what you were saying 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:53.920 about how you always want to get better. Yeah, and 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.280 you want to grow and there is no growth. Yeah, 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:03.520 there's no growth without pain. No, No, you're listening to 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.479 no filter more with Harriet Dyer in just a moment, 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:18.000 what was your biggest professional pain, like where you found 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:18.560 the growth? 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.879 Oh, that's a good question. I found it really hard 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.440 working on that. I did a movie with Elizabeth Moss 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.439 where I played her sister, an invisible man, and I 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.840 get killed in this restaurant scene and it was really hectic, 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.560 and they'd made this rig where it was kind of 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.920