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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast from Mama Me Out.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this bill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm

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Speaker 1: Laura Brodnick and I'm Tina Burke and coming up on

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Speaker 1: the show today the Screen Actors Guild Awards. I again,

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Speaker 1: I know they're called the Actor Awards, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not doing that me neither. I can't get

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Speaker 1: on board with that change happened yesterday. We're going to

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Speaker 1: go through the most surprising moments from the ceremony, the

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Speaker 1: best moments. It turned into a very emotional show. I

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Speaker 1: actually had a little tear in my eye, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get too later. Plus you and I went to the

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Speaker 1: preview of a movie that is very talked about that's

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Speaker 1: coming out this week, Charlie XCX's mocumentary. It's not what

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Speaker 1: anyone expected. We're getting into that, but it's also got

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Speaker 1: some links to some other big pop name girlies, which

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Speaker 1: we're scared to say in the titling cases, her fans

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Speaker 1: come for us. Plus just the state of music documentaries

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Speaker 1: in general. But first, circling back around to the SAG Awards,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the opening because it was

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Speaker 1: Kristen Bell hosting again and she kicked things off with

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Speaker 1: a little song and dance. Yeah she did. It was nice,

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Speaker 1: good for Kristen.

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Speaker 2: I am not the biggest fan of a musical opening number,

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Speaker 2: I know, and I just think her if once Ariana

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Speaker 2: Devoce had done it that one time, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we ever needed to do it again.

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Speaker 1: I mean that one was ten out of ten. Bring

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Speaker 1: ye bring that back? Yeah, oh my god, some of

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Speaker 1: the luks have got of my head. But like it's

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Speaker 1: like she called out Embrace Angela Bassett, Jamie Lee Curtis

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Speaker 2: So Kristen Bell recreated that to an extent, but with

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's interesting because on yesterday's show, once we're talking

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Speaker 1: about how beautiful she looked in her dress, I was

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Speaker 1: saying that she's one of my favorite hosts because the

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Speaker 1: opening that she did for the Sag Maybe last year

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Speaker 1: was when she recreated her song from Frozen do you

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Speaker 1: want to build a Snowman? Butt instead said do you

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Speaker 1: want to be an actor? And showed all these like

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Speaker 1: throw back Do you remember that? Yeah? I did? Actually,

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that. I've watched that so many times.

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Speaker 1: It was just one of these things where every like

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Speaker 1: she acknowledged at the top of the show that she

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Speaker 1: was doing the joker second time, and it was interesting

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Speaker 1: because she was like, you're not supposed to keep going

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Speaker 1: But they decided to sort of try again with a

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Speaker 1: musical opening number. One of the interesting thing about the

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Speaker 1: Screen Actors Guild, which is the guild that everyone who

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Speaker 1: works in Hollywood has to belong to. You get your

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Speaker 1: SAG card, yeah, and it's how you get your health

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Speaker 1: insurance and all those fun things behind the award show.

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Speaker 1: One of the things is that you can't have the

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Speaker 1: same name as anyone else who has ever been registered

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Speaker 1: to SAG. So half the people in that room haven't

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Speaker 1: They've changed their name because they are legally to be

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Speaker 1: Like poor Emily Stone. I know, she's like, please just

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Speaker 1: Emily Stone. But I remember even like Elizabeth Banks telling

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Speaker 1: And so the woman went down the list and she

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Speaker 1: and Elizabethanks is like, y'all take that whatever, like literally,

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Speaker 2: They always really knew as well when it's happening, like

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Speaker 2: they don't think they're ever going to be an Oscar

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Speaker 2: winner at this point in their lives, when they're like

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Speaker 2: getting their sad cards, so sometimes they do choose weird stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes, Well, Emily Stone did try Riley for a while.

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Speaker 1: Kristin Bell did a bit of a song and dance

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Speaker 2: It's cute, Yeah, it just wasn't like that funny I

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Speaker 2: thought everything else she did on stage was much funnier

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Speaker 2: Everyone had a little giggle, like they had the little

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Speaker 1: Always a highlight, I guess, yeah, And she was enjoyed

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Speaker 1: And I think one reason for that is that she

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Speaker 1: But it was a big thing for her because it

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Speaker 1: that he hadn't walked the red carpet with her because

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Speaker 1: of all the controversy that had been happening. But it

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Speaker 1: wasn't until the next day that Kristen Bell posted some

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Speaker 1: not sure if she was backstage with Dak Shepherd and

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Speaker 1: And she put up this very long caption in a

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Speaker 1: tribute to him, saying, in case you're wondering what I

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Speaker 1: in a really good place. Okay, onto the Screen Actors

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Speaker 1: They're also at tables with food and drinks. As Seth

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've never felt more scene because yea yeah,

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Speaker 1: So one interesting thing was we had a few big

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Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, it's I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: Let the man smoke indoors. He's fine. Those kids today,

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Speaker 1: wondered because Cynthia wasn't nominated, and that was a big

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Speaker 1: obviously they weren't nominated for any Academy Awards, which is

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Speaker 1: a huge blow to Wicked for Good. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that she didn't in her like, I'm not coming

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Speaker 1: stamping her feet way. I just thought she knew she

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Speaker 2: But she's also like she's very like set in her

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Speaker 2: if Cynthia hadn't been nominated and that did upset her, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: previously with the Grammys, she's not gone back to the Grammys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look I would get that. I respect her

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Speaker 1: so Best Comedy Series. Seth Rogan also won for Best

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Speaker 1: the air conditioning. But he was also like, I just

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Speaker 2: as like lowbrow a superhero film which is not, by

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00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:57,314
Speaker 2: the way, and you can also produce yeah, yeah, still

432
00:17:57,354 --> 00:17:59,593
Speaker 2: winning SAG winning stuff. I'm just like, oh, I'm in

433
00:17:59,634 --> 00:18:01,714
Speaker 2: love with this season. I think, yeah, it's a very

434
00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:02,194
Speaker 2: good season.

435
00:18:02,234 --> 00:18:04,394
Speaker 1: It's so funny because Jesse Buckley is just she has

436
00:18:04,394 --> 00:18:06,793
Speaker 1: that very rare thing where she knows that she's going

437
00:18:06,834 --> 00:18:09,474
Speaker 1: to win in every single room, which is it's a

438
00:18:09,594 --> 00:18:12,354
Speaker 1: set thing now, but she's and I think that's almost

439
00:18:12,354 --> 00:18:14,513
Speaker 1: why she's so relaxed, because a lot of other people,

440
00:18:14,514 --> 00:18:16,914
Speaker 1: like they are genuinely shocked when they win something like

441
00:18:16,954 --> 00:18:19,273
Speaker 1: Michael E. Jordan was genuinely shocked because he hasn't been

442
00:18:19,274 --> 00:18:22,274
Speaker 1: in the running. But Jesse Buckley just like slowly gets

443
00:18:22,354 --> 00:18:24,474
Speaker 1: up from her chair and a pretty dress and like

444
00:18:24,514 --> 00:18:27,073
Speaker 1: says hello to all her friends and like gets up

445
00:18:27,114 --> 00:18:29,513
Speaker 1: on stage and just like thanks Emily Watson for like

446
00:18:29,594 --> 00:18:31,874
Speaker 1: coming with her, and she's just like she's very sincere.

447
00:18:31,954 --> 00:18:33,994
Speaker 1: But yes, Also, she's had the opportunity to give so

448
00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:36,914
Speaker 1: many speeches now that she's done all her big heart

449
00:18:36,994 --> 00:18:39,313
Speaker 1: felt thank you, it's like she's thanks Chloe sometimes and

450
00:18:39,314 --> 00:18:41,074
Speaker 1: she's got to save a little something, got to say

451
00:18:41,154 --> 00:18:43,554
Speaker 1: to the Oscars. Yeah, she's thanks poor Mescal. So many

452
00:18:43,554 --> 00:18:46,394
Speaker 1: times she's thanks Chloe show, she's thanked the guy who

453
00:18:46,394 --> 00:18:51,434
Speaker 1: made the stew on the set the Golden clothes. So

454
00:18:51,554 --> 00:18:53,634
Speaker 1: every time she gets someone stage, she's like, hey, here

455
00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:55,793
Speaker 1: I am again. So I love that. Just one other

456
00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:59,273
Speaker 1: quick thing, that Michelle Williams won for Best Actress in it.

457
00:18:59,394 --> 00:19:02,434
Speaker 1: You'd be very thrilled by that. Of course, Michelle Williams

458
00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:04,874
Speaker 1: and Dying for Sex is one of the greatest performances

459
00:19:04,874 --> 00:19:08,154
Speaker 1: I've ever seen ever. And I just think that when

460
00:19:08,154 --> 00:19:10,314
Speaker 1: that show first came out she got nominated, she wasn't

461
00:19:10,354 --> 00:19:12,594
Speaker 1: winning anything, and I thought that was terrible. And then

462
00:19:12,594 --> 00:19:14,354
Speaker 1: she did win at the Golden Globes and she wasn't there.

463
00:19:14,434 --> 00:19:16,394
Speaker 1: So this is the first time I've actually seen her

464
00:19:16,874 --> 00:19:19,514
Speaker 1: get up and give an acceptance speech for that show,

465
00:19:19,554 --> 00:19:21,434
Speaker 1: which everyone should watch if you haven't seen it, it's

466
00:19:21,474 --> 00:19:23,273
Speaker 1: like ten out of ten, What did you think of

467
00:19:23,274 --> 00:19:25,434
Speaker 1: her speech? I thought it was really nice, especially when

468
00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:27,914
Speaker 1: she talked to her My voices got her sogy. I

469
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:29,834
Speaker 1: I got so emotional. I thought it was nice. She

470
00:19:29,874 --> 00:19:32,793
Speaker 1: always gives a really interesting speech. It's like when she

471
00:19:32,794 --> 00:19:34,514
Speaker 1: won for Fossy Verd and she got up and talked

472
00:19:34,514 --> 00:19:36,914
Speaker 1: about having to harass the producers to give her more

473
00:19:36,954 --> 00:19:41,754
Speaker 1: acting and singing lessons, and that's I think people like

474
00:19:42,074 --> 00:19:44,793
Speaker 1: under estimate Michell Williams giving a really good acceptance speech.

475
00:19:45,194 --> 00:19:46,714
Speaker 1: Like she does get up and say like thank you

476
00:19:46,754 --> 00:19:48,634
Speaker 1: to you know, everyone for voting, but then she sort

477
00:19:48,634 --> 00:19:51,274
Speaker 1: of always segus and so this time she was talking

478
00:19:51,354 --> 00:19:53,954
Speaker 1: about like growing up not realizing that her sets weren't

479
00:19:53,954 --> 00:19:56,594
Speaker 1: a family, and so every time her fake mum and

480
00:19:56,674 --> 00:19:58,394
Speaker 1: dad left and never spoke to her again because the

481
00:19:58,394 --> 00:20:00,074
Speaker 1: movie wrapped and she was a kid, she'd be like,

482
00:20:00,114 --> 00:20:02,234
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. And then she talked about

483
00:20:02,274 --> 00:20:04,594
Speaker 1: the dying for sex cars being like a family, and

484
00:20:04,674 --> 00:20:06,434
Speaker 1: I thought it was really nice. That was very cute.

485
00:20:06,474 --> 00:20:09,714
Speaker 1: Her and Jenny So were like super close on that. Yeah, yeah,

486
00:20:09,954 --> 00:20:12,074
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. There were a lot of good

487
00:20:12,114 --> 00:20:14,834
Speaker 1: presenters as well. I love when Katherine Hahn came out

488
00:20:14,874 --> 00:20:16,394
Speaker 1: and put her glasses on. I thought it was a bit,

489
00:20:16,434 --> 00:20:18,314
Speaker 1: but she's like, no, I just can't see. Yeah, that

490
00:20:18,394 --> 00:20:20,154
Speaker 1: confused me. I was really think, you know what that

491
00:20:20,194 --> 00:20:22,234
Speaker 1: bit was. I think she just didn't need her glasses.

492
00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:25,074
Speaker 2: But after the glasses, they tried to have a bit

493
00:20:25,154 --> 00:20:25,994
Speaker 2: her own Connor's story.

494
00:20:26,154 --> 00:20:28,474
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that. I didn't get it,

495
00:20:28,514 --> 00:20:29,954
Speaker 1: but I loved it. Do you think it was last

496
00:20:29,994 --> 00:20:31,674
Speaker 1: minute because they were filling in for Bowl and Yang

497
00:20:31,674 --> 00:20:33,914
Speaker 1: who stuck an Antarctica baby like it was cute. She

498
00:20:33,994 --> 00:20:36,194
Speaker 1: was very like she like grabbed Connor's face. Yeah, she

499
00:20:36,314 --> 00:20:38,513
Speaker 1: just like stared into his soul like they were cute.

500
00:20:38,554 --> 00:20:41,114
Speaker 1: I think it was just like he something weird's happening.

501
00:20:41,154 --> 00:20:43,274
Speaker 1: Like I didn't get whatever joke they were trying to make.

502
00:20:43,394 --> 00:20:45,354
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Couldn't even tell you what it was.

503
00:20:45,714 --> 00:20:47,154
Speaker 1: I had that in my notes, asked Tina, what the

504
00:20:47,194 --> 00:20:48,714
Speaker 1: joke was? Hit me with it. Let's see if I

505
00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:50,553
Speaker 1: can go It was no the whole opening when he

506
00:20:50,674 --> 00:20:52,674
Speaker 1: was like something something sexy, and I was like, have

507
00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,674
Speaker 1: they stumbled? Have they forgotten something? It wasn't bad. It

508
00:20:55,674 --> 00:20:58,514
Speaker 1: wasn't bad because they are both so interesting to watch me. Yeah,

509
00:20:58,714 --> 00:21:01,273
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what the punchline was meant to be. No,

510
00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:02,834
Speaker 1: I don't know either, Okay.

511
00:21:03,034 --> 00:21:05,834
Speaker 2: I'm I literally sat there going, I don't understand what

512
00:21:05,954 --> 00:21:07,754
Speaker 2: you know? And they're both so pretty they don't have.

513
00:21:07,714 --> 00:21:10,114
Speaker 1: To have a point. Two pretty funny people can be

514
00:21:10,194 --> 00:21:12,273
Speaker 1: up on stage and not have a point. That'sh I

515
00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:15,274
Speaker 1: loved the Office ladies getting back together for the original

516
00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:17,434
Speaker 1: stars of the Office. It was also really funny because

517
00:21:17,434 --> 00:21:19,674
Speaker 1: when they announced the winner, it was like Jenni Fisher

518
00:21:19,714 --> 00:21:21,394
Speaker 1: and Angela Kinsy kind of said it, and then it

519
00:21:21,434 --> 00:21:23,474
Speaker 1: was like Mindy and Ellie hadn't known they were meant

520
00:21:23,474 --> 00:21:26,234
Speaker 1: to speak yet, because Ellie just starts laughing while Mindy

521
00:21:26,314 --> 00:21:28,754
Speaker 1: like throws arms in the air because they try to

522
00:21:28,794 --> 00:21:30,914
Speaker 1: say it, like oh, bless those girls. Oh it was

523
00:21:30,954 --> 00:21:32,513
Speaker 1: so cute. They came out and like did a little

524
00:21:32,514 --> 00:21:34,554
Speaker 1: bit about like, you know how back in their day

525
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:36,914
Speaker 1: of Making the Office they got to have like more

526
00:21:36,994 --> 00:21:39,513
Speaker 1: episodes they could have good episodes and bad episodes. And

527
00:21:39,554 --> 00:21:42,234
Speaker 1: then two of them plugged their podcasts they have it

528
00:21:42,314 --> 00:21:44,714
Speaker 1: Making the Office, and then Mindy goes, well, should I

529
00:21:44,714 --> 00:21:46,553
Speaker 1: do a podcast about writing? And they're like, no, no

530
00:21:46,594 --> 00:21:48,834
Speaker 1: one cares about writers. I was like, that joke doesn't

531
00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:52,033
Speaker 1: land when it's Mindy Kaling, because we want a podcast

532
00:21:52,074 --> 00:21:53,674
Speaker 1: from Mindi haleing and she can talk about whatever she

533
00:21:53,754 --> 00:21:56,234
Speaker 1: dan want to please, books, anything, and I would listen.

534
00:21:56,434 --> 00:21:58,114
Speaker 1: She did a little cameo in them when they were

535
00:21:58,154 --> 00:22:00,994
Speaker 1: talking about how to make a rom com. Yeah I did.

536
00:22:01,034 --> 00:22:03,674
Speaker 1: I love that. I would hours.

537
00:22:03,794 --> 00:22:05,394
Speaker 2: Well, she talks apouding her books, but also like the

538
00:22:05,474 --> 00:22:07,674
Speaker 2: very start of the MINDI project is she talks about

539
00:22:07,714 --> 00:22:12,514
Speaker 2: having watched rom coms growing up, having that extended into

540
00:22:12,594 --> 00:22:14,513
Speaker 2: like her and like who else was in it? It

541
00:22:14,554 --> 00:22:17,234
Speaker 2: was Andy McDowell. Yeah, yeah, like it was just so

542
00:22:17,274 --> 00:22:19,033
Speaker 2: cute watching them. We'll talk about rom coms. I like,

543
00:22:19,114 --> 00:22:21,154
Speaker 2: That's what I do like about SAgs. It's so industry.

544
00:22:21,194 --> 00:22:24,074
Speaker 2: It's always like something interesting to say. They always like

545
00:22:24,194 --> 00:22:26,033
Speaker 2: really want to celebrate their craft.

546
00:22:25,674 --> 00:22:28,354
Speaker 1: And their genres. It was very few. Yeah, maybe that's

547
00:22:28,354 --> 00:22:29,914
Speaker 1: why I love the SAgs so much. As you say

548
00:22:29,954 --> 00:22:31,954
Speaker 1: that now, it's because it's the award show not for

549
00:22:31,994 --> 00:22:35,314
Speaker 1: people who love celebrity, but for people who love movies. Yes,

550
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:38,634
Speaker 1: it's for the film nerds. Yeah, it's that moment. It's

551
00:22:38,674 --> 00:22:40,714
Speaker 1: just for people who care a lot about it. Yeah,

552
00:22:41,034 --> 00:22:43,674
Speaker 1: it's nice. So they were some great presenters, but I

553
00:22:43,674 --> 00:22:46,634
Speaker 1: think my favorite presenter, maybe of all time, was a

554
00:22:46,674 --> 00:22:49,194
Speaker 1: young man who wandered out on to stage by the

555
00:22:49,234 --> 00:22:52,754
Speaker 1: name of Woody Harrison. I love that and presented. He

556
00:22:52,874 --> 00:22:55,394
Speaker 1: wrote jokes, but he wasn't staying He wrote his own jokes,

557
00:22:55,394 --> 00:22:57,394
Speaker 1: but he wasn't staying on script. He was presenting Harrison

558
00:22:57,394 --> 00:23:00,313
Speaker 1: for the really hard. His jokes were very funny. The

559
00:23:00,354 --> 00:23:03,154
Speaker 1: crowd was just not getting it. It's funny because at

560
00:23:03,154 --> 00:23:05,033
Speaker 1: first he starts chatting and then he was like, oh no,

561
00:23:05,074 --> 00:23:06,834
Speaker 1: the teleprompt is going too far. She's gonna have to

562
00:23:06,874 --> 00:23:08,194
Speaker 1: keep it with me. And he was trying to say

563
00:23:08,194 --> 00:23:09,994
Speaker 1: all these nice things about Harrison Ford, and it was

564
00:23:10,074 --> 00:23:11,794
Speaker 1: very cute because they have been friends for a very

565
00:23:11,874 --> 00:23:13,994
Speaker 1: very long time. Do you reckon the story is true?

566
00:23:13,994 --> 00:23:15,674
Speaker 1: Because he was like, we've met and went for dinner

567
00:23:15,714 --> 00:23:17,714
Speaker 1: at a sushi restaurant and that's how we became friends.

568
00:23:18,034 --> 00:23:20,273
Speaker 1: He followed him in and then you know what, for

569
00:23:20,314 --> 00:23:23,194
Speaker 1: anyone else, no, for Woody Harrison, I would believe that

570
00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:25,834
Speaker 1: that crazy. I don know if you heard so many

571
00:23:25,874 --> 00:23:28,313
Speaker 1: crazy stories about stuff he does, I'm like, yeah, and

572
00:23:28,354 --> 00:23:30,554
Speaker 1: it goes off like and does all these crazy stuff

573
00:23:30,554 --> 00:23:33,194
Speaker 1: between like filming and things. People never know where he is.

574
00:23:33,194 --> 00:23:36,793
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a phone, he's uncontactable as he's on stage.

575
00:23:36,834 --> 00:23:40,634
Speaker 1: Bad for friendships, good for just keeping him out of everything. Yeah,

576
00:23:40,634 --> 00:23:41,994
Speaker 1: and it was interesting because he pulled a bit of

577
00:23:41,994 --> 00:23:44,313
Speaker 1: a Joe Coy who was the Golden Globe's host a

578
00:23:44,314 --> 00:23:46,874
Speaker 1: few years ago, who started getting mad at the audience

579
00:23:46,914 --> 00:23:49,634
Speaker 1: halfway through they weren't laughing at his jokes, and Woody

580
00:23:49,674 --> 00:23:52,314
Speaker 1: Harrison did that too. He goes, oh, I wrote these jokes,

581
00:23:52,354 --> 00:23:55,114
Speaker 1: so you guys aren't laughing, which I don't know about that.

582
00:23:55,154 --> 00:23:57,634
Speaker 1: And then halfway through telling the story about Harrison Ford,

583
00:23:57,674 --> 00:23:59,273
Speaker 1: he goes, he just looking at the audience as if

584
00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:01,434
Speaker 1: he's in the shopping set, and he goes, oh, hey hey,

585
00:24:01,754 --> 00:24:04,793
Speaker 1: and waits and he just saw Kate Hudson and just

586
00:24:04,834 --> 00:24:07,754
Speaker 1: decided that he would break up his whole beach. Giving

587
00:24:07,834 --> 00:24:10,674
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford his Lifetime Achievement awards, say he hated Kate Hudson,

588
00:24:10,674 --> 00:24:12,513
Speaker 1: who's just in the audience laughing and like, why is

589
00:24:12,514 --> 00:24:15,033
Speaker 1: the camera on me? Yeah, but I think Harrison loved it.

590
00:24:15,394 --> 00:24:16,114
Speaker 1: Harrison loved it.

591
00:24:17,074 --> 00:24:20,114
Speaker 2: He's so curmudgeonly and silly, and like he was cackling.

592
00:24:20,514 --> 00:24:22,074
Speaker 2: And then even when he went to kind of stand

593
00:24:22,154 --> 00:24:23,994
Speaker 2: up as the package of like Woody is sort of

594
00:24:24,074 --> 00:24:26,834
Speaker 2: and died like Woody then kept talking to Harrison just

595
00:24:26,874 --> 00:24:29,954
Speaker 2: like walked backwards to Klysto and like waited until he

596
00:24:29,994 --> 00:24:32,234
Speaker 2: could go up on stage. But wood he did say

597
00:24:32,314 --> 00:24:33,674
Speaker 2: right before he brought him on stage, he was like,

598
00:24:33,714 --> 00:24:35,714
Speaker 2: this is also like a cautionary tale not to have

599
00:24:35,794 --> 00:24:36,674
Speaker 2: me present an award.

600
00:24:36,674 --> 00:24:38,793
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, He's like, don't do it. No, but I

601
00:24:38,834 --> 00:24:42,273
Speaker 1: want him to present every award. The rail so funny.

602
00:24:42,394 --> 00:24:44,114
Speaker 1: But it's and also but he was as much as

603
00:24:44,114 --> 00:24:45,593
Speaker 1: he was making a joke of it, and how like

604
00:24:45,994 --> 00:24:48,154
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford didn't want him to give him the award.

605
00:24:48,194 --> 00:24:49,874
Speaker 1: He tried to get Helen Marrin and she said no,

606
00:24:49,914 --> 00:24:51,114
Speaker 1: and they went through the list and all this sort

607
00:24:51,114 --> 00:24:54,033
Speaker 1: of stuff. He also balanced it by talking about, like

608
00:24:54,154 --> 00:24:57,314
Speaker 1: very reverently about Harrison Ford. He was like, this man

609
00:24:57,394 --> 00:25:00,553
Speaker 1: is hand solo and Indiana Jones, can you even believe it?

610
00:25:00,594 --> 00:25:02,234
Speaker 1: And he's on one of the best TV shows out

611
00:25:02,314 --> 00:25:05,033
Speaker 1: the moment, shrinking like and he's like his movies have

612
00:25:05,074 --> 00:25:07,834
Speaker 1: made billions of dollars and his dramatic act it was

613
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:09,074
Speaker 1: like it was and you're kind of just like looking

614
00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:10,914
Speaker 1: at Harrison Ford and being like he's like just a

615
00:25:11,074 --> 00:25:14,954
Speaker 1: living legend. He's a living piece of like Hollywood, the

616
00:25:14,954 --> 00:25:17,674
Speaker 1: fabric of Hollywood, like in that room at the TV table.

617
00:25:17,874 --> 00:25:21,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally insane, Like I think he's just I think

618
00:25:21,474 --> 00:25:23,634
Speaker 2: Harrison was just such a big part of people's life,

619
00:25:23,874 --> 00:25:25,834
Speaker 2: Like no matter what you've seen him in, Like, he

620
00:25:25,914 --> 00:25:27,754
Speaker 2: means so much to so many people. So like it

621
00:25:27,794 --> 00:25:29,634
Speaker 2: was very silly the way that Woody did it, but

622
00:25:29,674 --> 00:25:31,033
Speaker 2: he was very much just trying to be like, I

623
00:25:31,074 --> 00:25:33,154
Speaker 2: have this reverence for all this man, yeah, because he's

624
00:25:33,154 --> 00:25:35,114
Speaker 2: so important. And then the fact that they played the

625
00:25:35,154 --> 00:25:38,834
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones song, Yeah, so important because they recently got

626
00:25:38,874 --> 00:25:41,474
Speaker 2: him to sing it on Shrinking, Like yeah, as much

627
00:25:41,474 --> 00:25:43,274
Speaker 2: as like he does have respect for his older roles,

628
00:25:43,314 --> 00:25:46,194
Speaker 2: obviously he still talks about them. Some actors don't necessarily,

629
00:25:46,314 --> 00:25:48,313
Speaker 2: but he still is not normally one to be like

630
00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:52,234
Speaker 2: who me Indiana, Like he's like whatever, But yeah, he

631
00:25:52,354 --> 00:25:54,394
Speaker 2: like sang the song on Shrinking recently, and then they

632
00:25:54,394 --> 00:25:56,274
Speaker 2: played it as he like walked it up to the stage.

633
00:25:56,314 --> 00:25:59,194
Speaker 1: It was very sweet love that. Yeah, So overall just

634
00:25:59,234 --> 00:26:02,034
Speaker 1: like a very lovely Awards ceremony. Yeah, it's nice to

635
00:26:02,074 --> 00:26:04,513
Speaker 1: live in awards sewermy without like a you know, scandal and

636
00:26:04,554 --> 00:26:06,634
Speaker 1: drama unless something you Brelly and we haven't seen it yet,

637
00:26:06,634 --> 00:26:09,674
Speaker 1: but over and I think Harrison's inspired them all. Yeah,

638
00:26:09,794 --> 00:26:12,474
Speaker 1: has eight minute speech, very long, worth a watch if

639
00:26:12,474 --> 00:26:14,954
Speaker 1: you haven't did the whole thing. He was like, this

640
00:26:15,114 --> 00:26:16,114
Speaker 1: is very encouraging.

641
00:26:16,514 --> 00:26:18,554
Speaker 2: It's a joke, like he gave this really heartfelt speech

642
00:26:18,594 --> 00:26:19,954
Speaker 2: and then he just was like, thank you for this.

643
00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:20,874
Speaker 1: This is very encouraging.

644
00:26:21,034 --> 00:26:22,994
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, going well, yeah, And earlier this speech,

645
00:26:23,034 --> 00:26:24,754
Speaker 2: she'd been like, I'm only halfway through my career, so

646
00:26:24,874 --> 00:26:26,434
Speaker 2: why don't know why you're give me this just now?

647
00:26:26,514 --> 00:26:28,914
Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, he's one of those interesting stories

648
00:26:28,954 --> 00:26:31,434
Speaker 1: where he didn't become famous until his mid thirties and

649
00:26:31,474 --> 00:26:33,874
Speaker 1: he was working as a carpenter. So if you're out

650
00:26:33,874 --> 00:26:35,954
Speaker 1: there and you're like, will I ever be famous? You

651
00:26:35,954 --> 00:26:38,954
Speaker 1: couldn't even think yeah. Harrison Ford says, yes, you have

652
00:26:39,034 --> 00:26:41,634
Speaker 1: many years to become the greatest actor in the world,

653
00:26:41,714 --> 00:26:43,354
Speaker 1: and then you could have a sixty year acting career.

654
00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:47,754
Speaker 1: You could say na. So Charlie X Six's new movie

655
00:26:47,794 --> 00:26:50,914
Speaker 1: is out this week. It's called The Moment, and if

656
00:26:50,954 --> 00:26:53,394
Speaker 1: you looked just at the trailer, you might think it's

657
00:26:53,474 --> 00:26:57,634
Speaker 1: the classic tour documentary about her releasing her album Bratt

658
00:26:57,674 --> 00:26:59,394
Speaker 1: and also going on tour and what a big moment

659
00:26:59,434 --> 00:27:01,793
Speaker 1: that was. But she's kind of flipped it around a

660
00:27:01,834 --> 00:27:05,394
Speaker 1: bit because it's a mockumentary where she is playing a

661
00:27:05,514 --> 00:27:09,154
Speaker 1: version of Charlie XCX, and it's a fictionalized account of

662
00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:11,954
Speaker 1: how Bratt came to be, so it's kind of redefining

663
00:27:11,994 --> 00:27:14,514
Speaker 1: the genre. So you and I saw this on Friday night,

664
00:27:15,154 --> 00:27:18,154
Speaker 1: in a night that we'll never forget, only because I

665
00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:19,513
Speaker 1: think we thought it was going to be, like you know,

666
00:27:19,554 --> 00:27:22,474
Speaker 1: it's a twenty four films, so it's very highly anticipated,

667
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,634
Speaker 1: it's Charlie XCX. But I thought it was just a

668
00:27:24,634 --> 00:27:27,314
Speaker 1: little screening. I thought we just bopped along. I only

669
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:29,634
Speaker 1: speak for myself. Looks like a bit of trash after

670
00:27:29,674 --> 00:27:32,994
Speaker 1: a massive women I did. Yeah, we bopped along to

671
00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:34,714
Speaker 1: the cinema and we thought we could just sit in

672
00:27:34,714 --> 00:27:37,754
Speaker 1: the back, buy ourself some popcorn, watch the movie and head. Yeah.

673
00:27:38,354 --> 00:27:40,034
Speaker 1: I got there late through no fault of my own,

674
00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:42,474
Speaker 1: excepted why I was washing my hair and you text

675
00:27:42,514 --> 00:27:45,074
Speaker 1: me from inside saying that there was a huge line

676
00:27:45,074 --> 00:27:47,313
Speaker 1: at the front and it was even crazier inside, and

677
00:27:47,354 --> 00:27:49,114
Speaker 1: we did not know that we were actually in a

678
00:27:49,114 --> 00:27:51,594
Speaker 1: buzzy way. We just weren't anticipating it. Well, we didn't

679
00:27:51,594 --> 00:27:53,794
Speaker 1: know we were stumbling into the social event of the month,

680
00:27:54,114 --> 00:27:57,114
Speaker 1: which was the premiere of the moment, packed with cool girls,

681
00:27:57,234 --> 00:28:00,914
Speaker 1: packed with it girls, packed with excited fans. People were

682
00:28:00,994 --> 00:28:03,634
Speaker 1: just yeah, very obsessed with this movie.

683
00:28:03,674 --> 00:28:05,754
Speaker 2: People were very excited. But then it was also like

684
00:28:05,794 --> 00:28:08,074
Speaker 2: a part media pop fan screening as well.

685
00:28:08,394 --> 00:28:10,674
Speaker 1: Oh that was according to the words on the screen

686
00:28:10,714 --> 00:28:12,754
Speaker 1: at the start. It was a fan screen. Tina and

687
00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:14,994
Speaker 1: I like found us and must threw ourselves into the

688
00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:18,394
Speaker 1: background background there because I mean the girls who were

689
00:28:18,394 --> 00:28:20,314
Speaker 1: there were all lovely, the cool it girls, but that

690
00:28:20,474 --> 00:28:22,714
Speaker 1: we were not supposed to be mingling. I was wearing

691
00:28:22,794 --> 00:28:25,274
Speaker 1: cowboy boots, so it wasn't I just sneak my double

692
00:28:25,314 --> 00:28:28,073
Speaker 1: poor of rose past like their cool green cocktails they

693
00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:31,273
Speaker 1: all had, and sneak into cinema. So apart from that,

694
00:28:31,314 --> 00:28:32,714
Speaker 1: and then we took an uber home together and we

695
00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:34,674
Speaker 1: started getting to this heated debate about the movie and

696
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:36,754
Speaker 1: one point shut up and save for the pod. So

697
00:28:36,794 --> 00:28:41,474
Speaker 1: that moment has come, and sure, so do you want

698
00:28:41,474 --> 00:28:42,994
Speaker 1: to set the scene a little bit more about what

699
00:28:43,034 --> 00:28:45,794
Speaker 1: the moment is? About what the moment is in your

700
00:28:45,794 --> 00:28:50,154
Speaker 1: own words, that's your interpretation. So I believe Charlie growing

701
00:28:50,234 --> 00:28:53,034
Speaker 1: up in the UK was a bit wow of the

702
00:28:53,114 --> 00:28:56,154
Speaker 1: Spice World movie. I mean, weren't we all? Were we all?

703
00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:59,394
Speaker 2: And I think that somewhere along the way she decided,

704
00:28:59,674 --> 00:29:01,874
Speaker 2: one day, I want to do that and make a

705
00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:05,234
Speaker 2: fake movie about me, a real pop singer, and have

706
00:29:05,314 --> 00:29:08,234
Speaker 2: something interesting to say about the world and society when

707
00:29:08,274 --> 00:29:10,154
Speaker 2: I do it. And so that's kind of what she did.

708
00:29:10,194 --> 00:29:14,194
Speaker 2: The Moment is like a tour mockumentary that takes you

709
00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:18,154
Speaker 2: through the planning of the Brat World tour, but it's

710
00:29:18,274 --> 00:29:21,674
Speaker 2: all completely scripted and it's like a fictionalized version.

711
00:29:22,154 --> 00:29:26,234
Speaker 1: But it's not like obviously Spice World was like this funny, irreverent,

712
00:29:26,514 --> 00:29:30,634
Speaker 1: ridiculous thing crazy. You had like aliens and a flying bars, yeah,

713
00:29:30,674 --> 00:29:32,674
Speaker 1: and then so many side plots. A woman gave birth,

714
00:29:32,674 --> 00:29:35,674
Speaker 1: I forgot about that friend, yeah yeah, and they also

715
00:29:35,714 --> 00:29:37,594
Speaker 1: sung all their songs away through it. I think coming

716
00:29:37,634 --> 00:29:39,034
Speaker 1: into it, I did think it was going to be

717
00:29:39,114 --> 00:29:40,554
Speaker 1: I don't know, other thought it was gonna be spice World,

718
00:29:40,634 --> 00:29:43,194
Speaker 1: although I do agree with everyone calling it spice World

719
00:29:43,234 --> 00:29:45,874
Speaker 1: means uncut gems. That is exactly the vibe of the

720
00:29:45,954 --> 00:29:48,634
Speaker 1: Charlie XX documentary. Yeah, I kind of thought it would

721
00:29:48,634 --> 00:29:50,434
Speaker 1: be a little bit more, I don't know, lighthearted, I

722
00:29:50,434 --> 00:29:52,354
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it definitely had some funny moments.

723
00:29:52,354 --> 00:29:56,354
Speaker 1: So she's playing a version of herself. An interesting choice

724
00:29:56,394 --> 00:29:59,394
Speaker 1: because this whole thing, I think the backstory correct me

725
00:29:59,394 --> 00:30:01,114
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, you're more of a Charlie girl than me,

726
00:30:01,674 --> 00:30:04,514
Speaker 1: is that everyone wanted her to make a documentary.

727
00:30:05,074 --> 00:30:07,754
Speaker 2: It's a big thing now come to tool film lad Jazz.

728
00:30:07,794 --> 00:30:10,394
Speaker 2: And the idea is that she was getting pressure to

729
00:30:10,514 --> 00:30:13,914
Speaker 2: do one, and she'd give an interview saying she didn't believe.

730
00:30:13,634 --> 00:30:15,194
Speaker 1: In doing them and to do them.

731
00:30:15,194 --> 00:30:16,874
Speaker 2: And then it got announced that the Moment was coming

732
00:30:16,874 --> 00:30:18,554
Speaker 2: out and everyone went, what the hell are you talking about?

733
00:30:18,714 --> 00:30:20,194
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she revealed no, it's a.

734
00:30:20,194 --> 00:30:23,994
Speaker 2: Scripted dramatization of what it might be like to pull

735
00:30:24,034 --> 00:30:25,434
Speaker 2: to the first they weren't even like it's a film,

736
00:30:25,474 --> 00:30:27,434
Speaker 2: They're like, it's an original idea by Charlie exci.

737
00:30:27,594 --> 00:30:29,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like, it's the moment by Charlie, and

738
00:30:29,434 --> 00:30:32,154
Speaker 1: you were like, but what is that? To be honest,

739
00:30:32,194 --> 00:30:33,874
Speaker 1: when we went into the cinema and they had like

740
00:30:33,914 --> 00:30:35,874
Speaker 1: the little thing like on the screen of like the

741
00:30:35,954 --> 00:30:38,474
Speaker 1: moment is a story. It didn't happen. Maybe it didn't,

742
00:30:38,514 --> 00:30:40,154
Speaker 1: maybe it did. I was still like, I don't know

743
00:30:40,154 --> 00:30:42,194
Speaker 1: what this is. And then it started. So Charlie's playing

744
00:30:42,234 --> 00:30:45,274
Speaker 1: herself and some other people. There's some guest stars that

745
00:30:45,314 --> 00:30:48,274
Speaker 1: also play themselves. Rachel Sennet players herself, but then you

746
00:30:48,434 --> 00:30:50,514
Speaker 1: also have a lot of people around her who were

747
00:30:50,594 --> 00:30:55,234
Speaker 1: actors playing characters. Yeah, most notably Alexander Scara's Guard Your

748
00:30:55,274 --> 00:30:59,194
Speaker 1: hannas Your Hanna, a film director with terrible ideas and

749
00:30:59,314 --> 00:31:01,794
Speaker 1: terrible taste who kind of like a very tight thit.

750
00:31:01,834 --> 00:31:06,114
Speaker 1: It's very the v neck. Yeah, Beanie, it's just Alexander

751
00:31:06,154 --> 00:31:08,234
Speaker 1: Sarah's Guard is so funny in this. I think we

752
00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:10,434
Speaker 1: should say that I have other graphs about the movie,

753
00:31:10,434 --> 00:31:11,874
Speaker 1: and I know you do too, but I think we'll

754
00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:14,674
Speaker 1: say that just he is a standout. He's really good.

755
00:31:14,754 --> 00:31:17,754
Speaker 2: I also thought the woman who plays Celeste, who kind

756
00:31:17,754 --> 00:31:21,354
Speaker 2: of plays like the tool manager character, who's like meant

757
00:31:21,354 --> 00:31:23,834
Speaker 2: to have the same creative vision as Charlie also very good.

758
00:31:23,994 --> 00:31:25,554
Speaker 1: And then yeah, there's like a smattering of other.

759
00:31:25,434 --> 00:31:28,674
Speaker 2: British actors, like some of her co stars from Overcompensating. Yeah,

760
00:31:28,834 --> 00:31:31,354
Speaker 2: a few different actors who like people would probably recognize

761
00:31:31,354 --> 00:31:33,274
Speaker 2: from little roles here and there. So the film is

762
00:31:33,314 --> 00:31:37,074
Speaker 2: directed by Aidan Zamiri, who is like a Charlie XCX collaborator,

763
00:31:37,074 --> 00:31:39,314
Speaker 2: but has also worked on like music videos with Billie

764
00:31:39,354 --> 00:31:41,594
Speaker 2: Eilish and a few other people, And this is his

765
00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:43,994
Speaker 2: first film, so he worked on it with her, and

766
00:31:43,994 --> 00:31:46,754
Speaker 2: it is scripted, but it felt very improvised at times.

767
00:31:46,994 --> 00:31:48,994
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not improvised and it was have a lot

768
00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:51,554
Speaker 1: of complicated thoughts about this one. I do love that

769
00:31:51,594 --> 00:31:53,914
Speaker 1: she didn't make the standard documentary as much as I

770
00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:56,114
Speaker 1: would have loved to have seen that. Yeah, such is

771
00:31:56,154 --> 00:31:58,274
Speaker 1: where we did. I'm such a basic bitch for a

772
00:31:58,394 --> 00:32:01,714
Speaker 1: music documentary, like any behind the scenes drama, I would

773
00:32:01,714 --> 00:32:03,834
Speaker 1: have loved it. Yeah, yeah, no, I would have loved that.

774
00:32:03,914 --> 00:32:05,074
Speaker 1: And so but I think as a lot of this

775
00:32:05,194 --> 00:32:08,754
Speaker 1: is that's really interesting. I felt one and I know

776
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:11,514
Speaker 1: I'm really bad at this, so I understand needed a

777
00:32:11,554 --> 00:32:14,394
Speaker 1: tight edit. What is of now forty five? Should it

778
00:32:14,394 --> 00:32:17,394
Speaker 1: be an hour? Yeah, really meandered off. I also think

779
00:32:17,434 --> 00:32:21,274
Speaker 1: it's interesting that Charlie kind of like painted herself as

780
00:32:21,634 --> 00:32:24,474
Speaker 1: she's playing herself, and she also created the idea and

781
00:32:24,594 --> 00:32:27,794
Speaker 1: is across what she wanted people to see her ays

782
00:32:27,834 --> 00:32:30,794
Speaker 1: and came off as this kind of just like vessel

783
00:32:30,954 --> 00:32:34,914
Speaker 1: just moving through her life and like came off very unlikable. Yeah,

784
00:32:34,994 --> 00:32:37,194
Speaker 1: we were joking about it because I was like, like, look,

785
00:32:37,274 --> 00:32:39,434
Speaker 1: I like her unlikable female characters, and I was like,

786
00:32:39,434 --> 00:32:42,274
Speaker 1: because I am one, But like, it was weird to

787
00:32:42,314 --> 00:32:45,274
Speaker 1: make the decision to create something where you come off

788
00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:48,754
Speaker 1: as quite unlikable, and your friendships, which are based on

789
00:32:48,914 --> 00:32:51,234
Speaker 1: literally being played by your real life friends and the

790
00:32:51,274 --> 00:32:54,234
Speaker 1: decisions you've actually made in your life come across as

791
00:32:54,274 --> 00:32:57,194
Speaker 1: all very like things you don't like and are making

792
00:32:57,274 --> 00:32:59,954
Speaker 1: a commentary on as being bad like. And she actually

793
00:32:59,994 --> 00:33:01,914
Speaker 1: said that in a Q and A with Aiden before

794
00:33:01,954 --> 00:33:04,394
Speaker 1: one of the screenings. She was like, I was reading

795
00:33:04,394 --> 00:33:06,554
Speaker 1: his script and it would be like Charlie says this,

796
00:33:06,674 --> 00:33:08,314
Speaker 1: and she was like, is that what you think of me?

797
00:33:08,474 --> 00:33:11,074
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, yues, this is weird because that's

798
00:33:11,074 --> 00:33:11,754
Speaker 1: what you're wondering.

799
00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:14,394
Speaker 2: Is this how she sees herself or how Aiden and

800
00:33:14,434 --> 00:33:16,154
Speaker 2: the people around her see her if they're the ones

801
00:33:16,194 --> 00:33:18,234
Speaker 2: who made it. But then he's like, no, no, no.

802
00:33:18,114 --> 00:33:20,674
Speaker 1: He eats just drama. Well. It's interesting because normally, if

803
00:33:20,674 --> 00:33:22,874
Speaker 1: you'd play yourself in a mockumentary, you would play a

804
00:33:22,914 --> 00:33:26,634
Speaker 1: really heightened version of yourself and go really over the top.

805
00:33:26,674 --> 00:33:29,234
Speaker 1: But it's also like she stripped herself back, because I

806
00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:32,074
Speaker 1: think she's a lot more animated and interesting in interviews

807
00:33:32,154 --> 00:33:34,354
Speaker 1: than she was in this mockumentary. She's kind of just like,

808
00:33:34,674 --> 00:33:36,514
Speaker 1: it's so much stumbling and she can don't get a

809
00:33:36,554 --> 00:33:38,514
Speaker 1: word out, and every stopped in she of a funny moment.

810
00:33:38,554 --> 00:33:40,434
Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments is like when they're in

811
00:33:40,474 --> 00:33:42,714
Speaker 1: the car going to rehearsal and her team leaves just

812
00:33:42,714 --> 00:33:45,554
Speaker 1: her as the driver. Driver and he's like, Charlie hey,

813
00:33:45,594 --> 00:33:47,514
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know who she is, and she's like yep. Yeah.

814
00:33:47,514 --> 00:33:49,314
Speaker 1: He's like, let me google you, and she's like okay,

815
00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:51,074
Speaker 1: and he's like, is this you? And he points to

816
00:33:51,074 --> 00:33:52,954
Speaker 1: the first Charlie that comes up on Google, which is

817
00:33:52,994 --> 00:33:55,434
Speaker 1: Charlie Pooth. Yeah, and she's like, no, scroll down, scroll

818
00:33:55,474 --> 00:33:57,554
Speaker 1: down down, Charlie. It's like that's me. And then the

819
00:33:57,594 --> 00:34:00,554
Speaker 1: Boom Clap video comes up and he's like, oh, this

820
00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:02,554
Speaker 1: is a fun song and she was like, yeah, I

821
00:34:02,634 --> 00:34:04,634
Speaker 1: made it about a movie with kids with cancer. And

822
00:34:04,634 --> 00:34:06,154
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, that's why you're wearing a wig and

823
00:34:06,194 --> 00:34:09,993
Speaker 1: she's like, no, there were some really funny It was

824
00:34:10,034 --> 00:34:12,073
Speaker 1: just like a deep cut of her career of like

825
00:34:12,154 --> 00:34:14,594
Speaker 1: going back to like the Fault Male Stars and Boom

826
00:34:14,634 --> 00:34:15,594
Speaker 1: Clap and her just being.

827
00:34:15,474 --> 00:34:18,433
Speaker 2: In a car like no and like making fun of

828
00:34:18,474 --> 00:34:20,514
Speaker 2: sort of that era where she wasn't as in control

829
00:34:20,554 --> 00:34:22,234
Speaker 2: of the kinds of things that she was doing, which

830
00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:24,154
Speaker 2: is a lot of what this movie is trying to,

831
00:34:24,274 --> 00:34:28,553
Speaker 2: like quote unquote say, is like as a pop star,

832
00:34:28,914 --> 00:34:31,274
Speaker 2: she's this like empty vessel in this thing that just

833
00:34:31,314 --> 00:34:34,314
Speaker 2: gets like pushed into different commercial deals and pushed into

834
00:34:34,354 --> 00:34:37,194
Speaker 2: photo shoots and then pushed eventually into this tour that

835
00:34:37,234 --> 00:34:39,274
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to do, which is like if you

836
00:34:39,314 --> 00:34:41,513
Speaker 2: saw the Brat tour is like an expansion of being

837
00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:43,314
Speaker 2: in a nightclub and it's very cool and it's very

838
00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:45,913
Speaker 2: gritty and there's strobing lights and it's very like stripped back.

839
00:34:45,914 --> 00:34:48,034
Speaker 2: It's just her on a stage. It's like a club

840
00:34:48,074 --> 00:34:51,314
Speaker 2: setup with this big green rat banner and that's kind

841
00:34:51,354 --> 00:34:53,954
Speaker 2: of it. There's no like big production to it in

842
00:34:54,034 --> 00:34:55,834
Speaker 2: terms of what people would associate with a pop star.

843
00:34:56,074 --> 00:34:57,714
Speaker 2: And then in the moment, it's all about how they

844
00:34:57,754 --> 00:35:00,274
Speaker 2: want to change her into this like pop star, and

845
00:35:00,354 --> 00:35:02,913
Speaker 2: they want to like have a big, sparkly lighter on

846
00:35:02,954 --> 00:35:04,754
Speaker 2: the stage, and they want her to have a choreographed

847
00:35:04,794 --> 00:35:06,674
Speaker 2: dance routine, and they wanted to read from a script

848
00:35:06,714 --> 00:35:10,554
Speaker 2: every yeah, and like it's very much Yeah, not Charlie.

849
00:35:10,794 --> 00:35:13,514
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because it's like it's not Charlie and

850
00:35:13,554 --> 00:35:15,674
Speaker 1: also like she's playing a character. But I think also

851
00:35:15,794 --> 00:35:17,913
Speaker 1: it's very there were chunks that where I was like, oh,

852
00:35:17,914 --> 00:35:20,234
Speaker 1: this is where she wants us to see her in

853
00:35:20,274 --> 00:35:22,674
Speaker 1: a certain way, and it was that kind of classic.

854
00:35:22,714 --> 00:35:24,433
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I know, you think that she

855
00:35:24,594 --> 00:35:27,594
Speaker 1: was inspired by Spice World. I think she was inspired

856
00:35:27,594 --> 00:35:31,074
Speaker 1: by Britney Spears. Lucky, Like she's so lucky she's a star,

857
00:35:31,194 --> 00:35:35,114
Speaker 1: but she cries because there's so many scenes where like

858
00:35:35,554 --> 00:35:37,274
Speaker 1: it's like all those it is that classic thing of

859
00:35:37,314 --> 00:35:40,433
Speaker 1: like all those news cuts, red carpet, everyone loves, She's

860
00:35:40,474 --> 00:35:42,074
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in the world, cut to her alone

861
00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:44,274
Speaker 1: in her hotel room, like the build up to the tour,

862
00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:46,714
Speaker 1: everyone's buying her tickets. Cut to her alone in another

863
00:35:46,714 --> 00:35:49,674
Speaker 1: hotel room in another country and she's cut her hand

864
00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:52,034
Speaker 1: and she's bleeding and crying and sobbing. That was a lot,

865
00:35:52,474 --> 00:35:56,034
Speaker 1: and it's very much just like the richest, most beautiful,

866
00:35:56,314 --> 00:35:58,634
Speaker 1: popular girl in the world is secretly sad and lonely

867
00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,994
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, which we've seen kind of done a

868
00:36:00,994 --> 00:36:04,434
Speaker 1: million times. Yeah, but it's interesting that that's what I

869
00:36:04,434 --> 00:36:06,354
Speaker 1: feel like, that's what she pulled out, that she wanted

870
00:36:06,394 --> 00:36:08,393
Speaker 1: to show people. Yeah, I think it was.

871
00:36:09,314 --> 00:36:12,393
Speaker 2: I think she at times I did forget this was fake.

872
00:36:12,514 --> 00:36:14,554
Speaker 2: Like I do think her performance was good, like when

873
00:36:14,594 --> 00:36:17,114
Speaker 2: she was giving a couple of her more emotional monologues,

874
00:36:17,114 --> 00:36:19,393
Speaker 2: all those moments of like really like the cutting of

875
00:36:19,434 --> 00:36:22,714
Speaker 2: the hand accidentally, and yeah, that sort of heightened anxiety.

876
00:36:22,754 --> 00:36:24,314
Speaker 2: I thought, like I really felt it, and I was like,

877
00:36:24,354 --> 00:36:26,034
Speaker 2: holy shit, this is all very scary and it's very

878
00:36:26,074 --> 00:36:28,674
Speaker 2: stressful to be in this environment. Yeah, but obviously that's fake.

879
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:33,994
Speaker 2: But I did feel like overall the idea that yeah,

880
00:36:34,034 --> 00:36:36,434
Speaker 2: like one of the scenes she runs into Kylie Jenner,

881
00:36:36,474 --> 00:36:37,874
Speaker 2: and Kylie Jenner thought.

882
00:36:37,674 --> 00:36:40,794
Speaker 1: I'd say this, but Kylie Jenner's acting was one of

883
00:36:40,794 --> 00:36:43,834
Speaker 1: my favorite things from this entire She was good, she

884
00:36:43,994 --> 00:36:44,874
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah.

885
00:36:45,034 --> 00:36:46,834
Speaker 2: But they run into each other in a hotel yeah,

886
00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:49,194
Speaker 2: and have this really vapid exchange. And then there's also

887
00:36:49,234 --> 00:36:51,754
Speaker 2: another one with Rachel Sennett from Bottoms, also in a bathroom,

888
00:36:51,794 --> 00:36:53,953
Speaker 2: and they have another exchange. It's really awkward and tense.

889
00:36:54,354 --> 00:36:56,873
Speaker 2: I found it a little weird because that all fed

890
00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:59,154
Speaker 2: into what you're saying. It was the whole commentary was,

891
00:36:59,154 --> 00:37:02,034
Speaker 2: look how alone she is, but when it mentioned the friends,

892
00:37:02,074 --> 00:37:05,354
Speaker 2: particularly Kylie, it was like she saw Kylie's competition and

893
00:37:05,394 --> 00:37:08,274
Speaker 2: she saw her as like the pericked, ideal version of

894
00:37:08,274 --> 00:37:11,754
Speaker 2: a celebrity, and she that interaction then inspires her to go,

895
00:37:11,874 --> 00:37:14,314
Speaker 2: like make a bunch of changes to her own artistic view.

896
00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:16,594
Speaker 2: And I'm like, the way it's presented is like Kylie

897
00:37:16,634 --> 00:37:19,594
Speaker 2: jenn is playing like a caricature of herself. But you

898
00:37:19,594 --> 00:37:21,953
Speaker 2: guys are friends in real life. No, this is where

899
00:37:21,954 --> 00:37:22,914
Speaker 2: I struggled.

900
00:37:22,514 --> 00:37:24,274
Speaker 1: With this as a concept because I'm like, and I

901
00:37:24,274 --> 00:37:26,674
Speaker 1: didn't struggle because it was hard to understand. Can you

902
00:37:26,674 --> 00:37:28,473
Speaker 1: imagine if you're like, No, I didn't understand. I got it.

903
00:37:28,954 --> 00:37:29,354
Speaker 1: I got it.

904
00:37:29,354 --> 00:37:32,114
Speaker 2: It's pretty top one, and I bloody love Charlie eyed it,

905
00:37:32,154 --> 00:37:33,754
Speaker 2: but I found a lot of the stuff of say,

906
00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:35,913
Speaker 2: like there was all these montages of say, like her

907
00:37:35,994 --> 00:37:38,953
Speaker 2: doing like a Skim's campaign, having like a credit card

908
00:37:38,994 --> 00:37:40,674
Speaker 2: attached to Brat and all of these things. And she's

909
00:37:40,674 --> 00:37:44,433
Speaker 2: supposed to be making a commentary on how like capitalist

910
00:37:44,914 --> 00:37:47,634
Speaker 2: pop stardom has become and all the pressures that you face.

911
00:37:47,674 --> 00:37:49,674
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but you did all those things, but

912
00:37:49,954 --> 00:37:52,033
Speaker 2: you are friends with those people you do.

913
00:37:52,354 --> 00:37:54,274
Speaker 1: But what was the point though? That she was kind

914
00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:56,834
Speaker 1: of almost like mocking herself as well. She was like,

915
00:37:57,074 --> 00:37:58,993
Speaker 1: I'm making a joke about all this, but I did

916
00:37:59,034 --> 00:38:01,194
Speaker 1: it or is she trying to explain why she did

917
00:38:01,234 --> 00:38:02,714
Speaker 1: it and be like I'm in on the.

918
00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:04,474
Speaker 2: Joke, because like it was very like I'm in on

919
00:38:04,514 --> 00:38:07,074
Speaker 2: the joke. But the end of the whole like end

920
00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:10,794
Speaker 2: result is that she changes everything about herself through all

921
00:38:10,794 --> 00:38:12,873
Speaker 2: of these other things that have happened that lead to

922
00:38:12,914 --> 00:38:15,194
Speaker 2: her changing her whole tour. She didn't actually change her

923
00:38:15,194 --> 00:38:16,994
Speaker 2: whole tour in real life. So it's like, what's the

924
00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:19,314
Speaker 2: message there that, like, you stood up in the face

925
00:38:19,354 --> 00:38:22,794
Speaker 2: of skims and you you kept to your brat ways like,

926
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:24,954
Speaker 2: I just like, maybe I am too stupid.

927
00:38:24,994 --> 00:38:25,834
Speaker 1: Who could say, but I.

928
00:38:25,834 --> 00:38:27,714
Speaker 2: Feel I think the vibe online is very like if

929
00:38:27,754 --> 00:38:29,114
Speaker 2: you don't get it, you don't get it. And I'm like, no,

930
00:38:29,154 --> 00:38:29,873
Speaker 2: I got it, and I.

931
00:38:29,914 --> 00:38:32,594
Speaker 1: Just started it. Just there wasn't that much to get. Yeah,

932
00:38:32,954 --> 00:38:34,594
Speaker 1: it was. It was trying to show us a part

933
00:38:34,594 --> 00:38:36,354
Speaker 1: of her life and also make some jokes. But I

934
00:38:36,354 --> 00:38:37,714
Speaker 1: don't know if there was a deeper I know what

935
00:38:37,754 --> 00:38:38,074
Speaker 1: you're saying.

936
00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:40,274
Speaker 2: There's you tried to be really deep about it, and

937
00:38:40,314 --> 00:38:42,074
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think you just wanted to have a

938
00:38:42,114 --> 00:38:43,674
Speaker 2: bit of fun and that's fine, but.

939
00:38:43,634 --> 00:38:46,433
Speaker 1: I tho we could have had more fun, so much more,

940
00:38:46,554 --> 00:38:48,874
Speaker 1: much more fun because some of it was so intense

941
00:38:48,914 --> 00:38:50,953
Speaker 1: and went on for so long. The Kylie Jenner moment

942
00:38:50,994 --> 00:38:52,674
Speaker 1: was good though, because I guess it's the catalyst for

943
00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:55,274
Speaker 1: the story, which is interesting, so she's not just there.

944
00:38:55,314 --> 00:38:57,834
Speaker 1: So the whole thing is like Charlie XX has gone

945
00:38:57,834 --> 00:39:02,354
Speaker 1: off to Ibitha to have this funny yeah bar retreat

946
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:04,794
Speaker 1: and then she goes to see this very famous facialist

947
00:39:04,794 --> 00:39:09,634
Speaker 1: who can't treat her because her auras, which felt so believable. Yeah,

948
00:39:09,674 --> 00:39:11,473
Speaker 1: And on the way out she bumps into Kylie Jenner,

949
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,834
Speaker 1: who's there too, who was seeing the facialist who has

950
00:39:13,874 --> 00:39:16,594
Speaker 1: like been helping her because Kylie Jenner has the right aura. Yeah,

951
00:39:16,634 --> 00:39:18,154
Speaker 1: and one of the best lines from the whole movie.

952
00:39:18,154 --> 00:39:20,314
Speaker 1: Again none, this is spoilers. Like it's such a tiny moment.

953
00:39:20,554 --> 00:39:22,954
Speaker 1: I think it was just like, Kylie Jenner's delivery is

954
00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:25,034
Speaker 1: very good. She was funny. I leaned over to one

955
00:39:25,074 --> 00:39:26,794
Speaker 1: stage and I was like, I think she's a better

956
00:39:26,834 --> 00:39:29,393
Speaker 1: actor than Kim, which I never thought i'd say. I

957
00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:31,634
Speaker 1: don't think that's a hot She was so relaxed and

958
00:39:31,674 --> 00:39:34,314
Speaker 1: she was just Kim was like a stiff board. Obviously

959
00:39:34,354 --> 00:39:36,914
Speaker 1: she's off playing the lead, but like, Kylie Jenner was

960
00:39:36,994 --> 00:39:39,913
Speaker 1: very relaxed and funny, and she was like, oh my god,

961
00:39:39,994 --> 00:39:43,354
Speaker 1: you're looking amazing, and Charlie's like, yeah, thanks on my skin,

962
00:39:43,394 --> 00:39:47,274
Speaker 1: she has no, no, no, on the inside. She was very funny. Yeah,

963
00:39:47,394 --> 00:39:49,674
Speaker 1: it was a good moment and funny moments. I liked it.

964
00:39:49,754 --> 00:39:52,714
Speaker 2: I just I think if the whole thing of it

965
00:39:52,794 --> 00:39:55,354
Speaker 2: being a twenty four and then really hammering home that

966
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:57,154
Speaker 2: this is a moment and it's a big thing, I'm like,

967
00:39:57,194 --> 00:39:58,953
Speaker 2: I kind of thought you'd have more to say than

968
00:40:00,914 --> 00:40:03,393
Speaker 2: is Lucky and the Vice World movie. The way that

969
00:40:03,434 --> 00:40:05,594
Speaker 2: the movie does end is yeah, she does change all

970
00:40:05,634 --> 00:40:08,194
Speaker 2: of these things. Cells out, she se out and it's like, yes,

971
00:40:08,234 --> 00:40:09,834
Speaker 2: we know that you didn't actually sell out, and yeah,

972
00:40:09,834 --> 00:40:14,314
Speaker 2: it's an interesting commentary on pop stardom. But a lot

973
00:40:14,354 --> 00:40:16,794
Speaker 2: of the things that you're claiming are sellouts, you also do.

974
00:40:16,874 --> 00:40:18,674
Speaker 2: So are you saying that you're half a sellout? Like,

975
00:40:18,714 --> 00:40:19,674
Speaker 2: what is your message?

976
00:40:19,714 --> 00:40:22,873
Speaker 1: Really? Like, I guess that's fine, I'm to sell out.

977
00:40:22,874 --> 00:40:25,674
Speaker 1: Probably I'm not fine. I'd love to I would be

978
00:40:25,754 --> 00:40:30,473
Speaker 1: chilling those credit cards like nobody's business. I wonder if

979
00:40:30,474 --> 00:40:33,433
Speaker 1: actually her message is so simple that it's it's kind

980
00:40:33,434 --> 00:40:35,354
Speaker 1: of been part Like it's what she tried to tell

981
00:40:35,394 --> 00:40:37,514
Speaker 1: us at the start, which is I think music documentaries

982
00:40:37,554 --> 00:40:39,754
Speaker 1: are lame. Yes, and so I'm doing this as a

983
00:40:39,794 --> 00:40:41,714
Speaker 1: send up because there's all little things in that is

984
00:40:41,754 --> 00:40:43,594
Speaker 1: what she's doing. And that is what has frustrated me

985
00:40:43,594 --> 00:40:45,034
Speaker 1: about this is everyone's.

986
00:40:44,634 --> 00:40:46,754
Speaker 2: Like it's so deep, and I'm like, no, I think

987
00:40:46,794 --> 00:40:48,834
Speaker 2: she just wants to make fun of music docos and

988
00:40:48,874 --> 00:40:49,434
Speaker 2: that's fine.

989
00:40:49,554 --> 00:40:51,754
Speaker 1: There were so many things that I missed. I don't

990
00:40:51,754 --> 00:40:53,634
Speaker 1: know if I'm not. I'm just not across things, and

991
00:40:53,674 --> 00:40:55,754
Speaker 1: I was just laughing at Rachel Center being pretended to be.

992
00:40:57,474 --> 00:40:59,754
Speaker 1: But there were all these little nods to other artists,

993
00:40:59,794 --> 00:41:06,154
Speaker 1: right or other Well say it and it's Taylor Swift. Yeah,

994
00:41:06,194 --> 00:41:09,034
Speaker 1: and that's not like me making that up. You ever

995
00:41:09,074 --> 00:41:10,033
Speaker 1: made this up? Yeah?

996
00:41:10,234 --> 00:41:12,794
Speaker 2: And the Charlie and Taylor stuff is so interesting. I

997
00:41:12,834 --> 00:41:15,234
Speaker 2: think we've we've hashed it out. We don't need to again.

998
00:41:15,314 --> 00:41:20,154
Speaker 2: But for top line, look, Charlie and Taylor were kind

999
00:41:20,154 --> 00:41:22,994
Speaker 2: of industry friends, but it was very much when Charlie

1000
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:25,194
Speaker 2: was in her own sort of words, this sort of

1001
00:41:25,234 --> 00:41:26,994
Speaker 2: pop star that she didn't necessarily want to be, and

1002
00:41:26,994 --> 00:41:28,834
Speaker 2: that is addressed in this with the boom Clap of

1003
00:41:28,874 --> 00:41:31,914
Speaker 2: it all. So around that time, Charlie was an opener

1004
00:41:31,954 --> 00:41:34,674
Speaker 2: for Taylor Swift on the Reputation World Tour. They danced

1005
00:41:34,674 --> 00:41:36,914
Speaker 2: every night together on stage and sang Shake It Off together,

1006
00:41:37,114 --> 00:41:40,434
Speaker 2: seemingly friends. Afterwards, Charlie made some comments about it feeling

1007
00:41:40,474 --> 00:41:43,274
Speaker 2: like she was performing for children and not liking it,

1008
00:41:43,314 --> 00:41:45,474
Speaker 2: and they sort of like just seemed to not really

1009
00:41:45,514 --> 00:41:48,554
Speaker 2: like be best friends, but there wasn't any problems. They

1010
00:41:48,594 --> 00:41:50,634
Speaker 2: both then dated at the same time. Members of the

1011
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:53,434
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, and Charlie went on to marry George

1012
00:41:53,474 --> 00:41:56,274
Speaker 2: the Drummer. Still together, Taylor broke up with Mattie after

1013
00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,114
Speaker 2: a couple months of situation, Ship.

1014
00:41:58,034 --> 00:42:01,194
Speaker 1: Fifty songs about it, devastating album about him.

1015
00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:04,794
Speaker 2: And then when Charlie released Brad, there was a song

1016
00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:06,754
Speaker 2: called Sympathy as a Knife, and the whole song was

1017
00:42:06,754 --> 00:42:09,034
Speaker 2: about not wanting to see this girl backstage at her

1018
00:42:09,074 --> 00:42:13,874
Speaker 2: boyfriend's show and how her existence made Charlie feel terrible

1019
00:42:13,914 --> 00:42:16,034
Speaker 2: as a person. And it is a great song about

1020
00:42:16,074 --> 00:42:18,794
Speaker 2: like female envy and just comparing yourself to others and

1021
00:42:18,834 --> 00:42:19,434
Speaker 2: all that jazz.

1022
00:42:19,434 --> 00:42:20,473
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic song.

1023
00:42:20,914 --> 00:42:23,674
Speaker 2: That song gets released, Taylor actually gives a quote to

1024
00:42:23,714 --> 00:42:27,194
Speaker 2: Time magazine saying she thinks Bratt's incredible, and like, well done, Charlie,

1025
00:42:27,234 --> 00:42:29,634
Speaker 2: what a great album. Seems like we're good, and Taylor

1026
00:42:29,634 --> 00:42:33,513
Speaker 2: didn't take it personally. Then the Grammys happened, Taylor's dancing

1027
00:42:33,554 --> 00:42:36,034
Speaker 2: to Charlie all seems fine. And then Taylor releases her

1028
00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,794
Speaker 2: album Life of a show Girl, and there's a song

1029
00:42:37,834 --> 00:42:42,234
Speaker 2: called Actually Romantic about Charlie that is quite like juvenile

1030
00:42:42,594 --> 00:42:45,754
Speaker 2: a fun bob oh great but juvenile. Nonetheless, in terms

1031
00:42:45,794 --> 00:42:47,873
Speaker 2: of like, oh, you're talking about me so much?

1032
00:42:47,874 --> 00:42:51,234
Speaker 1: She would love me, Oh my god, like obsessed with me.

1033
00:42:51,594 --> 00:42:54,354
Speaker 1: It was very Mariah Carey obsessed that song. So when

1034
00:42:54,394 --> 00:42:56,714
Speaker 1: that song got released by Taylor, there was a lot

1035
00:42:56,714 --> 00:42:57,674
Speaker 1: of discourse at the time.

1036
00:42:57,794 --> 00:42:59,594
Speaker 2: Everyone was like, how dare she do this to Charlie?

1037
00:42:59,714 --> 00:43:02,073
Speaker 2: Charlie is a smaller artist than her. It's really mean,

1038
00:43:02,434 --> 00:43:04,794
Speaker 2: was the overall thing. And I'm not here to say

1039
00:43:04,794 --> 00:43:05,594
Speaker 2: if it is or it isn't.

1040
00:43:05,794 --> 00:43:08,154
Speaker 1: No, we said we were came about the album like

1041
00:43:08,634 --> 00:43:10,834
Speaker 1: this is where art comes from. It's like big moments

1042
00:43:10,874 --> 00:43:13,674
Speaker 1: in your life, dramatic moments. Let the girls make their

1043
00:43:13,794 --> 00:43:16,033
Speaker 1: art and write songs about each other, and we'll sing

1044
00:43:16,074 --> 00:43:18,314
Speaker 1: to both of them and everything's fine, and they don't

1045
00:43:18,354 --> 00:43:19,554
Speaker 1: seem very stressed about it.

1046
00:43:19,874 --> 00:43:22,433
Speaker 2: And the lyrics in Taylor's song did point to the

1047
00:43:22,474 --> 00:43:25,194
Speaker 2: idea that there was more going on than what we

1048
00:43:25,314 --> 00:43:26,834
Speaker 2: all knew, because a lot of people were like, but

1049
00:43:26,874 --> 00:43:28,754
Speaker 2: Sympathy is a Knife is a nice song, and it's

1050
00:43:28,754 --> 00:43:32,634
Speaker 2: like Johnathan Guy, it's a beautifully written song. Doesn't mean

1051
00:43:32,634 --> 00:43:34,754
Speaker 2: it's nice thing if you're on the receiving end of it.

1052
00:43:35,114 --> 00:43:38,314
Speaker 2: But it's like, there was clearly more going on because

1053
00:43:38,314 --> 00:43:40,354
Speaker 2: the lyrics make it clear that Taylor was hearing all

1054
00:43:40,434 --> 00:43:44,714
Speaker 2: kinds of things this movie deliberately at multiple points in time,

1055
00:43:45,074 --> 00:43:48,873
Speaker 2: while making fun of tour documentaries very publicly, which is

1056
00:43:48,914 --> 00:43:51,794
Speaker 2: the thing that Taylor Her Eras tour film and Eras

1057
00:43:51,794 --> 00:43:54,754
Speaker 2: documentary were two of the biggest I guess, like music

1058
00:43:54,834 --> 00:43:56,594
Speaker 2: film things of the past couple of years.

1059
00:43:56,594 --> 00:44:00,433
Speaker 1: And it was very serious behind the scenes about the

1060
00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:03,354
Speaker 1: tour in the documentary, like kind of framing them as

1061
00:44:03,354 --> 00:44:05,393
Speaker 1: he's like life, which I know they definitely were these

1062
00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:08,674
Speaker 1: life altering romance a hint of like humor or a

1063
00:44:08,754 --> 00:44:09,754
Speaker 1: reverence or anything like that.

1064
00:44:09,874 --> 00:44:12,634
Speaker 2: Very serious, very serious, and also like in cinema like

1065
00:44:12,634 --> 00:44:15,034
Speaker 2: big releases, and people accused Taylor of like money grabbing

1066
00:44:15,074 --> 00:44:16,314
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. So there's a whole

1067
00:44:16,314 --> 00:44:19,393
Speaker 2: conversation that happened around that as well. But so in

1068
00:44:20,034 --> 00:44:22,714
Speaker 2: the moment by Charlie XCX, it's not subtle. They talk

1069
00:44:22,754 --> 00:44:25,194
Speaker 2: about the light up bracelets at Taylor Swift's concert, they

1070
00:44:25,234 --> 00:44:29,074
Speaker 2: make mention of Coldplay, but the entire cinema laughed before

1071
00:44:29,114 --> 00:44:32,434
Speaker 2: anyone said the words Coldplay. He was like the Johannes's

1072
00:44:32,514 --> 00:44:34,993
Speaker 2: character is basically trying to pitch a really lame pop

1073
00:44:34,994 --> 00:44:37,913
Speaker 2: star tour, and everything he pictures and everything they do

1074
00:44:38,074 --> 00:44:40,754
Speaker 2: is Taylor Swift. It's the light up bracelets. There is

1075
00:44:40,754 --> 00:44:44,354
Speaker 2: an exact replica of the nineteen eighty nine outfit drawn

1076
00:44:44,594 --> 00:44:47,194
Speaker 2: on Charlie's body, as like you should wear this. It's

1077
00:44:47,194 --> 00:44:50,074
Speaker 2: the pink set, the yes, okay, got it? That's drawn.

1078
00:44:50,274 --> 00:44:54,074
Speaker 2: They copy exact dance moves from the aras taught, multiple

1079
00:44:54,114 --> 00:44:56,794
Speaker 2: of the exact same dance sequences and dance moves from

1080
00:44:56,794 --> 00:44:59,914
Speaker 2: the air, the reputation which she's reaching the armor, the

1081
00:44:59,994 --> 00:45:02,994
Speaker 2: vigilante shit dance on the chairs. There's the moment in

1082
00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:06,234
Speaker 2: the where Charlie's lifted up like she's being carried, and

1083
00:45:06,274 --> 00:45:09,234
Speaker 2: that happens on the rec mutation to her. They remake

1084
00:45:09,394 --> 00:45:11,913
Speaker 2: exact moments of Taylor Swifts. It's not subtle, and they

1085
00:45:11,954 --> 00:45:14,393
Speaker 2: weren't aiming to be either, Like that's not stupid. They

1086
00:45:14,394 --> 00:45:16,513
Speaker 2: did it on purpose, and that's fine, like you can

1087
00:45:16,554 --> 00:45:18,393
Speaker 2: do it. But it just made me laugh seeing it,

1088
00:45:18,434 --> 00:45:21,314
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, people really tried to pretend

1089
00:45:21,354 --> 00:45:24,634
Speaker 2: that Charlie was like undeserving of a song being written

1090
00:45:24,634 --> 00:45:26,554
Speaker 2: about her, and I just kind of think they're both.

1091
00:45:26,994 --> 00:45:29,393
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a going. They're going and tit for tat.

1092
00:45:29,874 --> 00:45:32,634
Speaker 1: Charlie excesses on victim. She's playing the game the same

1093
00:45:32,634 --> 00:45:35,194
Speaker 1: way that Taylor's playing a game equal on the chest board.

1094
00:45:35,234 --> 00:45:36,434
Speaker 1: They can both have their opinions.

1095
00:45:36,514 --> 00:45:39,433
Speaker 2: Charlie's opinion is the way you do pop stardom is

1096
00:45:39,554 --> 00:45:41,794
Speaker 2: lame and I don't like it, and here's this movie

1097
00:45:41,794 --> 00:45:43,514
Speaker 2: about how I think that would be the worst thing

1098
00:45:43,514 --> 00:45:46,154
Speaker 2: that could possibly ever happened to me. And Taylor's thing

1099
00:45:46,234 --> 00:45:48,754
Speaker 2: is I don't care, yeah, and her thing is, you're

1100
00:45:48,754 --> 00:45:50,873
Speaker 2: obsessed with me. You're obsessed with me, you just want

1101
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:52,794
Speaker 2: to kiss me. Yeah, So they have this weird beef.

1102
00:45:52,834 --> 00:45:54,393
Speaker 1: I found it odd because I was like, I kind

1103
00:45:54,394 --> 00:45:57,114
Speaker 1: of thought Charlie had more to say than just making

1104
00:45:57,154 --> 00:46:00,074
Speaker 1: fun of one pop star through this avenue. But I

1105
00:46:00,114 --> 00:46:02,394
Speaker 1: still want to say she's a modern day Britney Spears.

1106
00:46:03,114 --> 00:46:03,594
Speaker 1: But I did.

1107
00:46:03,754 --> 00:46:05,473
Speaker 2: I did enjoy the moment. I just kind of maybe

1108
00:46:05,514 --> 00:46:07,714
Speaker 2: wish it was like a bit funnier. And as a

1109
00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:10,714
Speaker 2: Charlie fan, I've seen other reviewers say this, I still

1110
00:46:10,714 --> 00:46:12,194
Speaker 2: sat there at times, going.

1111
00:46:12,314 --> 00:46:15,114
Speaker 1: I really wish this was her real tool documentary. I

1112
00:46:15,154 --> 00:46:17,154
Speaker 1: know you're like, okay, but I still actually want the

1113
00:46:17,154 --> 00:46:19,314
Speaker 1: Tool documentary. It's because I'm a loser, I get it.

1114
00:46:19,434 --> 00:46:21,754
Speaker 2: No, I want it to But like I've seen Charlie

1115
00:46:21,794 --> 00:46:23,834
Speaker 2: talk about her music. She talked about Bratt with Zaane

1116
00:46:23,834 --> 00:46:25,554
Speaker 2: Lowe when she was first dropping it, and it was

1117
00:46:25,594 --> 00:46:29,754
Speaker 2: the most interesting conversation, one of the most interesting conversations

1118
00:46:29,754 --> 00:46:31,754
Speaker 2: I've seen about music in recent years. I think she's

1119
00:46:31,794 --> 00:46:34,994
Speaker 2: such a cool and talented artist, and like I'm maybe

1120
00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:36,873
Speaker 2: I'm just not cool and I don't get it and

1121
00:46:36,914 --> 00:46:39,074
Speaker 2: I'm not Bratt. But I would have really liked to

1122
00:46:39,074 --> 00:46:42,834
Speaker 2: have actually seen some of Charlie's process or real life

1123
00:46:42,914 --> 00:46:44,674
Speaker 2: or whatever was going on. She doesn't have to give

1124
00:46:44,714 --> 00:46:46,393
Speaker 2: it to us. That's probably another big thing of this.

1125
00:46:46,474 --> 00:46:48,274
Speaker 2: She didn't want to give us that sign of herself,

1126
00:46:48,434 --> 00:46:50,114
Speaker 2: so she gave us the version that she says, some

1127
00:46:50,194 --> 00:46:50,674
Speaker 2: of this might.

1128
00:46:50,594 --> 00:46:53,074
Speaker 1: Have happened, some of it didn't. Who could say, and

1129
00:46:53,114 --> 00:46:55,513
Speaker 1: I get that, yeah exactly. And look, I would say,

1130
00:46:55,554 --> 00:46:57,114
Speaker 1: like I enjoyed so much of it. You heard me

1131
00:46:57,194 --> 00:46:59,473
Speaker 1: laughing next to you, think we're having a great time.

1132
00:46:59,514 --> 00:47:01,794
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're a Charlie XCX fan, it's

1133
00:47:01,794 --> 00:47:03,594
Speaker 1: worth going in. Even if you're just like kind of

1134
00:47:03,634 --> 00:47:05,473
Speaker 1: like a moderate fan, because I would I'm a moderate fan,

1135
00:47:05,594 --> 00:47:07,513
Speaker 1: like I like her music, but I'm not like in

1136
00:47:07,554 --> 00:47:09,834
Speaker 1: the weeds of it all the same way, like you know,

1137
00:47:09,874 --> 00:47:11,834
Speaker 1: you're super across everything. But I would say, like if

1138
00:47:11,834 --> 00:47:13,873
Speaker 1: you're a moderate fan, you would probably really like it.

1139
00:47:14,194 --> 00:47:17,194
Speaker 1: You can go and it's a really interesting concept even

1140
00:47:17,274 --> 00:47:18,874
Speaker 1: just to go in and like, I have so many thoughts.

1141
00:47:18,994 --> 00:47:20,794
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to everyone about it, which

1142
00:47:20,834 --> 00:47:22,634
Speaker 1: is also an important thing, Like you want to go

1143
00:47:22,634 --> 00:47:24,433
Speaker 1: to a movie that you want to talk about. So

1144
00:47:24,514 --> 00:47:26,314
Speaker 1: I think if you're a fan to moderate fan, go

1145
00:47:26,354 --> 00:47:28,594
Speaker 1: and see it in the cinema. Everyone at our cinema

1146
00:47:28,674 --> 00:47:30,554
Speaker 1: who like because we were in a fan screening and

1147
00:47:30,674 --> 00:47:32,674
Speaker 1: screening they were into it. Yeah, you want to go

1148
00:47:32,674 --> 00:47:34,274
Speaker 1: see it with a bunch of people that like her

1149
00:47:34,314 --> 00:47:37,114
Speaker 1: as well. And also what's worth seeing for Alexander Scarra's

1150
00:47:37,114 --> 00:47:39,794
Speaker 1: guard and a V neck And it was fun lose, Yeah,

1151
00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:42,314
Speaker 1: it was fun. It just it's fun and complicated, like

1152
00:47:42,434 --> 00:47:45,674
Speaker 1: fun and complicated. Yeah. So it's out in cinemas this week,

1153
00:47:45,714 --> 00:47:47,514
Speaker 1: come out on Thursday. I believe we couldn't keep it

1154
00:47:47,554 --> 00:47:48,794
Speaker 1: for a weekend watch because we need to have this.

1155
00:47:48,714 --> 00:47:50,914
Speaker 2: Whole hour and I think we were excited then to

1156
00:47:50,914 --> 00:47:52,714
Speaker 2: see because she's in some more stuff coming up in

1157
00:47:52,834 --> 00:47:54,874
Speaker 2: she's moving into an acting capacity.

1158
00:47:54,514 --> 00:47:57,554
Speaker 1: And it's like five movies coming out. Charlie XCX is

1159
00:47:57,554 --> 00:47:59,034
Speaker 1: about to be like a bona fide movie star.

1160
00:47:59,114 --> 00:48:00,913
Speaker 2: And I know she's tapped into like real things that

1161
00:48:00,954 --> 00:48:02,473
Speaker 2: happened to her emotionally on tour.

1162
00:48:02,594 --> 00:48:04,913
Speaker 1: But she she did a good job most of the time. Ye,

1163
00:48:05,114 --> 00:48:06,994
Speaker 1: she did well down cinemas. Now, if you go and

1164
00:48:07,154 --> 00:48:08,714
Speaker 1: see it and drop us line and let us know,

1165
00:48:08,794 --> 00:48:10,634
Speaker 1: because all we want to do is talk about this movie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this Spill today.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to follow us on socials. We have popped

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Speaker 1: be back in your feed bright and early tomorrow morning

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Speaker 1: with morning tea followed by your usual Spill deep dive

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Speaker 1: at three pm. The Spill is produced by Manisha Eswarren

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Speaker 1: with sound production by Scott Stronik.

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Speaker 1: We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigol people of

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Speaker 1: and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander cultures.