1 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,264 --> 00:00:28,344 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 5 00:00:28,384 --> 00:00:29,144 Speaker 1: culture fix. 6 00:00:29,384 --> 00:00:32,744 Speaker 2: I'm Em Burnham and I'm Laura Brednik. Happy New Year, 7 00:00:33,104 --> 00:00:33,904 Speaker 2: Happy New Year to. 8 00:00:33,904 --> 00:00:36,344 Speaker 1: You, Paul So On the show today, we are going 9 00:00:36,424 --> 00:00:38,744 Speaker 1: to give you some of the newest TV shows that 10 00:00:38,784 --> 00:00:40,504 Speaker 1: have come out right now and the ones that we 11 00:00:40,544 --> 00:00:44,264 Speaker 1: want to recommend. But first, our producer Kim she can 12 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,024 Speaker 1: get a bit woo woo sometimes, so she's making us 13 00:00:47,104 --> 00:00:50,424 Speaker 1: talk about like our reflections of the year. Plus she 14 00:00:50,504 --> 00:00:52,584 Speaker 1: wants us to talk about our goals for this next 15 00:00:52,664 --> 00:00:54,544 Speaker 1: year because I feel like when we say it out loud, 16 00:00:54,584 --> 00:00:55,944 Speaker 1: that means we kind of have to do it. 17 00:00:56,384 --> 00:00:59,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I really wish I approached this so I actually, 18 00:00:59,624 --> 00:01:01,624 Speaker 2: you know, usually talk about ourselves on the show. We'd 19 00:01:01,664 --> 00:01:03,584 Speaker 2: really go hard on other people and their feelings and 20 00:01:03,624 --> 00:01:04,304 Speaker 2: their actions. 21 00:01:04,344 --> 00:01:07,824 Speaker 1: Again, I actually outsourced my goal because she did. My 22 00:01:07,984 --> 00:01:10,304 Speaker 1: mother decided to tell me what she wanted my god 23 00:01:10,464 --> 00:01:13,104 Speaker 1: that to be. She so, as you know, I date 24 00:01:13,584 --> 00:01:15,584 Speaker 1: a lot a little bit, I do know this about 25 00:01:15,624 --> 00:01:17,584 Speaker 1: you mostly because when if we go out together, we 26 00:01:17,664 --> 00:01:20,144 Speaker 1: run into an exit boyfriend of yours only when you're 27 00:01:20,144 --> 00:01:22,344 Speaker 1: with me, And I'm going to try to avoid doing 28 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:23,744 Speaker 1: that this year because I don't want to have that 29 00:01:23,824 --> 00:01:24,664 Speaker 1: many exes. 30 00:01:24,744 --> 00:01:26,944 Speaker 2: So you're gonna avoid going out with me, I'm gonna. 31 00:01:27,384 --> 00:01:29,504 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. Let me you phrase. 32 00:01:29,984 --> 00:01:32,104 Speaker 1: I have a goal that is set by my mother 33 00:01:32,304 --> 00:01:35,424 Speaker 1: that she wants me to really focus on myself this 34 00:01:35,544 --> 00:01:38,704 Speaker 1: year and find a purpose. Now I don't know what 35 00:01:38,744 --> 00:01:41,104 Speaker 1: that purpose is. She's like the world, your oyster, you 36 00:01:41,144 --> 00:01:43,344 Speaker 1: pick it. So I'm just going to find a purpose. 37 00:01:43,384 --> 00:01:46,304 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But my purpose could 38 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:47,424 Speaker 1: be just doing this. 39 00:01:48,504 --> 00:01:50,704 Speaker 2: Do you mean a purpose outside of dating and work? 40 00:01:50,824 --> 00:01:51,544 Speaker 1: I think a purpose. 41 00:01:51,624 --> 00:01:51,824 Speaker 2: Yeah. 42 00:01:51,864 --> 00:01:54,024 Speaker 1: She definitely wants it to be outside of dating. She 43 00:01:54,144 --> 00:01:56,584 Speaker 1: says it could be work, but you prefer if I 44 00:01:56,624 --> 00:01:58,824 Speaker 1: find another purpose alongside work. 45 00:01:58,984 --> 00:02:01,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh you'm a me. I'm still here. 46 00:02:01,304 --> 00:02:02,024 Speaker 1: I love my. 47 00:02:02,144 --> 00:02:04,784 Speaker 2: Job, don't get rid of me, but I also need 48 00:02:04,824 --> 00:02:07,184 Speaker 2: a life. It's always hard with this job because so 49 00:02:07,264 --> 00:02:09,384 Speaker 2: much of it does kind of bleeding to your personal 50 00:02:09,384 --> 00:02:11,464 Speaker 2: life because it's it could be stuff you're passionate about, 51 00:02:11,544 --> 00:02:13,304 Speaker 2: or like goals you have or you like, you share 52 00:02:13,344 --> 00:02:15,744 Speaker 2: a lot of your life online and different pods that 53 00:02:15,784 --> 00:02:17,704 Speaker 2: you do, so I think sometimes it can be hard 54 00:02:17,704 --> 00:02:19,704 Speaker 2: to separate those two. It's not like an office job 55 00:02:19,744 --> 00:02:21,264 Speaker 2: where you just gold and clocking clock out. 56 00:02:21,384 --> 00:02:24,464 Speaker 1: No money, money money, that's you here for Shank. What's 57 00:02:24,504 --> 00:02:27,904 Speaker 1: your goal of the year? Oh, oh god, do you 58 00:02:27,944 --> 00:02:28,624 Speaker 1: really work on? 59 00:02:28,784 --> 00:02:31,304 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, endship. I was going to say, you can 60 00:02:31,504 --> 00:02:32,984 Speaker 2: your mum gives you a goal, and you go, can 61 00:02:33,024 --> 00:02:34,064 Speaker 2: your mom just give me a goal? 62 00:02:34,184 --> 00:02:35,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you a goal. I think. 63 00:02:35,504 --> 00:02:37,504 Speaker 2: I mean missus vernam to come in and sort my 64 00:02:37,544 --> 00:02:38,024 Speaker 2: life out. 65 00:02:38,224 --> 00:02:40,584 Speaker 1: Maybe more tickets for me to go to premieres with you. 66 00:02:40,904 --> 00:02:43,704 Speaker 2: I mean that surely that's going to leave me fulfilled. 67 00:02:43,984 --> 00:02:45,304 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not one of those people who 68 00:02:45,344 --> 00:02:48,104 Speaker 2: makes a huge one goal every year. Although this year 69 00:02:48,104 --> 00:02:49,584 Speaker 2: I did make a goal to wear more rings, and 70 00:02:49,584 --> 00:02:50,864 Speaker 2: I feel like I've done that. I did. 71 00:02:51,144 --> 00:02:53,104 Speaker 1: I was even there for the big purchase, the big 72 00:02:53,184 --> 00:02:54,384 Speaker 1: ring purchase of twenty twenty. 73 00:02:54,584 --> 00:02:56,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't. I always find them hard to 74 00:02:56,064 --> 00:02:57,624 Speaker 2: find the ones to fit my fingers, and I feel 75 00:02:57,624 --> 00:02:59,984 Speaker 2: like that was a really easy one that I've Yeah, 76 00:03:00,184 --> 00:03:02,744 Speaker 2: my beautiful dat hands and I feel like I've really 77 00:03:02,744 --> 00:03:04,864 Speaker 2: achieved that. No, I mean every year we always say 78 00:03:04,864 --> 00:03:06,544 Speaker 2: the same thing, go so fast, what did I do? 79 00:03:07,064 --> 00:03:08,944 Speaker 2: But I think my goal for this year, for twenty 80 00:03:08,984 --> 00:03:12,944 Speaker 2: twenty five, I think is going to be so boring 81 00:03:12,984 --> 00:03:15,864 Speaker 2: to write more and to write more creatively, because I 82 00:03:15,864 --> 00:03:17,824 Speaker 2: feel like, I mean, here's the probably the thing I 83 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:19,664 Speaker 2: shouldn't say in this particular moment. 84 00:03:20,024 --> 00:03:20,864 Speaker 1: We love our jobs. 85 00:03:21,144 --> 00:03:24,064 Speaker 2: No, No, I love my job. But I'm a much 86 00:03:24,104 --> 00:03:26,064 Speaker 2: better writer than I am a podcaster. Like, I'm not 87 00:03:26,104 --> 00:03:28,864 Speaker 2: a great podcaster, and I have a popular opinion. I 88 00:03:28,864 --> 00:03:29,504 Speaker 2: think that's the case. 89 00:03:29,544 --> 00:03:30,624 Speaker 1: I'm ass journalists. 90 00:03:30,704 --> 00:03:32,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously that's our first. 91 00:03:32,584 --> 00:03:34,464 Speaker 1: It's also like a safety I feel like it's a 92 00:03:34,504 --> 00:03:36,904 Speaker 1: safer medium to convey your thoughts on. 93 00:03:37,144 --> 00:03:39,384 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. But I just I feel like I'm a 94 00:03:39,464 --> 00:03:41,984 Speaker 2: much better writer than I'm a podcaster, and I love podcasting. 95 00:03:42,064 --> 00:03:44,224 Speaker 1: It's a very unexcited You're very good at podcasting, which 96 00:03:44,304 --> 00:03:46,664 Speaker 1: must mean you're a really really good writer. 97 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:49,744 Speaker 2: We'll see. But I feel like I have put so 98 00:03:49,824 --> 00:03:52,104 Speaker 2: much time and effort into podcasting and into this show, 99 00:03:52,104 --> 00:03:53,584 Speaker 2: which I'm still going to do. Guys, don't worry when 100 00:03:53,744 --> 00:03:55,664 Speaker 2: this is not When I was like so I'm. 101 00:03:55,544 --> 00:03:57,584 Speaker 1: Leaving or we need to read your words more. 102 00:03:57,904 --> 00:03:59,704 Speaker 2: But I just think that I also just need to 103 00:03:59,704 --> 00:04:01,664 Speaker 2: make time for it and also to like longer form 104 00:04:01,784 --> 00:04:04,704 Speaker 2: things and things that I think also working in online media, 105 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:06,624 Speaker 2: you get very used to writing something one week and 106 00:04:06,624 --> 00:04:08,824 Speaker 2: then having it go live at the end of the 107 00:04:08,864 --> 00:04:11,304 Speaker 2: week and just kind of sitting with and like writing 108 00:04:11,344 --> 00:04:15,224 Speaker 2: things that scare you. So that's my goal, I think, right, creativity, 109 00:04:15,584 --> 00:04:17,544 Speaker 2: that's nice, but also still podcasting. 110 00:04:18,624 --> 00:04:20,544 Speaker 1: If you guys want to be a bit more vulnerable 111 00:04:20,584 --> 00:04:22,744 Speaker 1: with us like we are now, we're both very uncomfortable. 112 00:04:23,184 --> 00:04:25,544 Speaker 1: Please share your goals with us. You can message us 113 00:04:25,584 --> 00:04:28,384 Speaker 1: at the Spill podcast. And if one of your goals 114 00:04:28,424 --> 00:04:31,384 Speaker 1: is to watch more TV shows this year, just wait, 115 00:04:31,864 --> 00:04:32,224 Speaker 1: just wait. 116 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:34,824 Speaker 2: Also, like that's not a flippant throwaway thing, because I 117 00:04:34,904 --> 00:04:37,824 Speaker 2: also think that a lot of people now don't sometimes 118 00:04:37,824 --> 00:04:40,584 Speaker 2: don't start new TV shows because they can find that overwhelming. 119 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:42,344 Speaker 2: A lot of us go back to watch our same 120 00:04:42,384 --> 00:04:43,984 Speaker 2: comfort shows again and again and again. 121 00:04:44,024 --> 00:04:45,624 Speaker 1: Like that's why I start to tell it, I doesn't 122 00:04:45,664 --> 00:04:48,464 Speaker 1: feel so hard to start a new TV sometimes. 123 00:04:48,504 --> 00:04:50,184 Speaker 2: I think you and I have to force ourselves into it, 124 00:04:50,184 --> 00:04:52,344 Speaker 2: because the thing is every week we have for our jobs. 125 00:04:52,344 --> 00:04:53,984 Speaker 2: We have to watch a new TV show, and I 126 00:04:54,024 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 2: think that I would be in a loop of watching 127 00:04:55,544 --> 00:04:58,944 Speaker 2: like Gilmore Girls, Walking Dead, New Girl MINDI Project over 128 00:04:58,944 --> 00:05:00,184 Speaker 2: and over and over again if I didn't have to 129 00:05:00,184 --> 00:05:02,384 Speaker 2: snap myself out of it. I think sometimes you sit 130 00:05:02,424 --> 00:05:04,104 Speaker 2: down to watch a TV show and you'll just start 131 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:06,184 Speaker 2: like looking at TikTok or something, and or you just 132 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:08,144 Speaker 2: like I think people get nervous sometimes about it doesn't 133 00:05:08,144 --> 00:05:09,784 Speaker 2: seem like you should be. I think sometimes people get 134 00:05:09,784 --> 00:05:11,384 Speaker 2: nervous about into a new show. 135 00:05:11,504 --> 00:05:12,344 Speaker 1: It's a miss smith. 136 00:05:12,544 --> 00:05:14,104 Speaker 2: It is an investment in your time, and you can 137 00:05:14,104 --> 00:05:15,984 Speaker 2: be unsure of it. And also if the marketing doesn't 138 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:18,264 Speaker 2: hit you right and people in your friendship group aren't 139 00:05:18,304 --> 00:05:20,384 Speaker 2: recommending it to you, it can be hard to find 140 00:05:20,424 --> 00:05:22,664 Speaker 2: those new shows. So before we get into the new 141 00:05:22,704 --> 00:05:24,904 Speaker 2: shows that have just come out in December and January 142 00:05:24,904 --> 00:05:26,224 Speaker 2: that we want to talk to you about, we wanted 143 00:05:26,264 --> 00:05:28,384 Speaker 2: to highlight a few of our favorite shows from this 144 00:05:28,544 --> 00:05:30,864 Speaker 2: year that we probably have touched on when they came out, 145 00:05:30,904 --> 00:05:32,904 Speaker 2: but you might have missed them. Yeah, and also you're 146 00:05:32,944 --> 00:05:35,264 Speaker 2: not forced like us to watch new TV shows every week, 147 00:05:35,304 --> 00:05:37,344 Speaker 2: so potentially you heard us talk about it Weekend Watch 148 00:05:37,384 --> 00:05:39,544 Speaker 2: and thought that sounds good and never thought of it again. 149 00:05:39,864 --> 00:05:41,704 Speaker 2: So what's been your favorite new TV show of twenty 150 00:05:41,744 --> 00:05:42,104 Speaker 2: twenty four. 151 00:05:42,264 --> 00:05:44,864 Speaker 1: My absolute favorite TV show this year, which I can't 152 00:05:44,904 --> 00:05:48,064 Speaker 1: even believe actually came out this year, was Mister and 153 00:05:48,144 --> 00:05:53,104 Speaker 1: Missus Smith. Oh yes, starrying Donald Glover aka Charlish Gambino 154 00:05:53,184 --> 00:05:56,184 Speaker 1: and my Erskin. I was so close to not recommending 155 00:05:56,224 --> 00:06:00,424 Speaker 1: this because Donald Glover, like Childish Gambino, did cancel his 156 00:06:00,544 --> 00:06:02,104 Speaker 1: Australia to all. 157 00:06:01,784 --> 00:06:04,664 Speaker 2: That really hurt you the third time you're his biggest fan. 158 00:06:04,784 --> 00:06:08,344 Speaker 1: I did refrain from drunk messaging him and about my disappointment, 159 00:06:08,624 --> 00:06:10,064 Speaker 1: but if I did drunk messag him, I would have 160 00:06:10,064 --> 00:06:13,344 Speaker 1: said why I still recommend your great show because it 161 00:06:13,464 --> 00:06:16,304 Speaker 1: is such a good show. So if you haven't watched it, 162 00:06:16,304 --> 00:06:20,864 Speaker 1: it's one season and it is absolutely brilliant. You would 163 00:06:20,864 --> 00:06:24,024 Speaker 1: have definitely watched the og movie Mister and Missus Smith 164 00:06:24,064 --> 00:06:26,504 Speaker 1: starring Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, who we do not 165 00:06:26,584 --> 00:06:29,904 Speaker 1: talk about, but it takes the idea of the Mister 166 00:06:30,104 --> 00:06:33,864 Speaker 1: and Missus Smith universe and just expands on that. So 167 00:06:34,104 --> 00:06:37,664 Speaker 1: Donald Glover and my Erskine play a married couple who 168 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:40,744 Speaker 1: are like sexy assassin killers and you kind of find 169 00:06:40,784 --> 00:06:44,064 Speaker 1: out that mister and missus Smith aren't just these two people, 170 00:06:44,064 --> 00:06:46,304 Speaker 1: but it's a massive program yea where they have like 171 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:50,184 Speaker 1: these couples situated in different situations that just cosplay as 172 00:06:50,184 --> 00:06:51,744 Speaker 1: a couple but are really killers. 173 00:06:52,024 --> 00:06:53,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so good. 174 00:06:53,464 --> 00:06:57,344 Speaker 1: The scenes are beautiful, the outfits are amazing. Everyone's really 175 00:06:57,384 --> 00:07:00,344 Speaker 1: good looking. It's very tensiony, so it's a lot of action, 176 00:07:00,384 --> 00:07:03,824 Speaker 1: which I love. I love action, but it's also very romantic. 177 00:07:04,264 --> 00:07:06,584 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, and yet not just a remake of 178 00:07:06,584 --> 00:07:08,224 Speaker 2: the movie is so many people say to me, it's 179 00:07:08,264 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 2: so different. So many of my recommendations things that they're 180 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:14,384 Speaker 2: the ones I constantly find myself telling people about. And 181 00:07:14,424 --> 00:07:17,024 Speaker 2: sometimes it seems silly to bring them up because you think, like, 182 00:07:17,224 --> 00:07:19,384 Speaker 2: weren't we all talking about the show for weeks? How 183 00:07:19,424 --> 00:07:21,064 Speaker 2: have you not watched it? But again, it has come 184 00:07:21,104 --> 00:07:23,664 Speaker 2: to my attention that not everyone is as involved in 185 00:07:23,664 --> 00:07:26,224 Speaker 2: new TV releases as we are. So I wanted to 186 00:07:26,304 --> 00:07:27,984 Speaker 2: just a few highlights from the year that if you 187 00:07:28,024 --> 00:07:31,024 Speaker 2: haven't had time to watch them, and now you're on holidays, Christmas, 188 00:07:31,024 --> 00:07:32,864 Speaker 2: New Year's holidays, this would be the time to sit 189 00:07:32,904 --> 00:07:36,904 Speaker 2: down and watch them. Colin from Accounts Season two. Yeah, Yes, 190 00:07:37,144 --> 00:07:39,544 Speaker 2: such a good show came out many months ago and 191 00:07:39,544 --> 00:07:41,104 Speaker 2: I feel like it was obviously a really big deal 192 00:07:41,184 --> 00:07:43,304 Speaker 2: to us. But so many people I come across when 193 00:07:43,264 --> 00:07:45,544 Speaker 2: I talks about it haven't seen the show. So it's 194 00:07:45,544 --> 00:07:48,544 Speaker 2: in its second season, it's on Binge. It's co created 195 00:07:48,584 --> 00:07:52,784 Speaker 2: and stars real life couple Harriet Dyer and Patrick brammle Yes, 196 00:07:52,904 --> 00:07:55,864 Speaker 2: two very good looking people, two very funny people. So 197 00:07:55,904 --> 00:07:57,824 Speaker 2: many people have said like, is this the funniest show 198 00:07:57,824 --> 00:08:00,664 Speaker 2: on TV? And I actually think it could be. It 199 00:08:00,744 --> 00:08:03,304 Speaker 2: is there a couple who meet when in the first season, 200 00:08:03,344 --> 00:08:05,864 Speaker 2: when she, you know, flushes a boob as he's driving 201 00:08:05,904 --> 00:08:08,504 Speaker 2: pass he accidentally hits a dog. They rush the dog 202 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:10,744 Speaker 2: to the vet and then their lives become into tangled 203 00:08:10,744 --> 00:08:12,904 Speaker 2: because they have to look after this dog. It's one 204 00:08:12,904 --> 00:08:14,624 Speaker 2: of the rare cases of Season two is just as 205 00:08:14,664 --> 00:08:17,184 Speaker 2: funny as season one. And it was so funny because 206 00:08:17,224 --> 00:08:18,824 Speaker 2: I went to the premiere and I actually interviewed them 207 00:08:18,864 --> 00:08:20,824 Speaker 2: when they were in Australia to launch it, and then 208 00:08:21,104 --> 00:08:22,904 Speaker 2: I was telling so many people to go and watch it, 209 00:08:23,344 --> 00:08:25,744 Speaker 2: and people were like messaging me afterwards with their favorite 210 00:08:25,824 --> 00:08:27,544 Speaker 2: jokes and moments and stuff, and I was like, yes, 211 00:08:27,544 --> 00:08:29,384 Speaker 2: it's that kind of show where you just like actually 212 00:08:29,504 --> 00:08:30,504 Speaker 2: laughing out louds. 213 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,464 Speaker 1: You shared one of my dating stories with them. 214 00:08:32,344 --> 00:08:35,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. They gave me advice. They loved that. 215 00:08:35,584 --> 00:08:36,464 Speaker 1: It was quite nice. 216 00:08:36,584 --> 00:08:37,864 Speaker 2: It was so funny because I was at the end 217 00:08:37,904 --> 00:08:39,384 Speaker 2: of their press day and they'd be going all day 218 00:08:39,384 --> 00:08:42,064 Speaker 2: and it was their last interview, and I was like, 219 00:08:42,104 --> 00:08:44,104 Speaker 2: can you guys give some relationship advice because your whole 220 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:46,504 Speaker 2: show was about this relationship and you're married in real life, 221 00:08:46,704 --> 00:08:49,104 Speaker 2: and they were just going for gold with it. And 222 00:08:49,144 --> 00:08:51,344 Speaker 2: then afterwards they're like, why haven't we just been doing 223 00:08:51,384 --> 00:08:54,224 Speaker 2: this all day? And then they talked about starting a 224 00:08:54,224 --> 00:08:56,864 Speaker 2: advice podcast, which I do think they should do. So 225 00:08:57,064 --> 00:09:00,464 Speaker 2: that is on Binge Calling from Accounts, really important comedy 226 00:09:00,464 --> 00:09:03,344 Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it, also fall Out on Prime Video. 227 00:09:04,024 --> 00:09:05,904 Speaker 2: Did we move on from that too quickly? 228 00:09:05,984 --> 00:09:08,744 Speaker 1: I think? So, I'm going to say that we missed 229 00:09:08,744 --> 00:09:10,184 Speaker 1: the mark on that and sho'd have done and Bradley 230 00:09:10,224 --> 00:09:11,144 Speaker 1: on on format. 231 00:09:11,184 --> 00:09:12,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is coming back for a second season. 232 00:09:12,944 --> 00:09:14,944 Speaker 2: I think we will have that. The reason I wanted 233 00:09:14,944 --> 00:09:16,504 Speaker 2: to bring that up is that when I tell people 234 00:09:16,504 --> 00:09:18,824 Speaker 2: about this show. When we're talking about big shows that 235 00:09:18,904 --> 00:09:21,424 Speaker 2: made an impact this year, so many people say to me, like, 236 00:09:21,584 --> 00:09:23,864 Speaker 2: I just don't like video games, and do that? I say, 237 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:25,944 Speaker 2: do I look like the kind of person who likes 238 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:27,864 Speaker 2: video games or knows anything about that. 239 00:09:27,904 --> 00:09:29,384 Speaker 1: I didn't even know this was based on a video 240 00:09:29,944 --> 00:09:30,824 Speaker 1: after I watched it. 241 00:09:30,824 --> 00:09:32,824 Speaker 2: It's based on like a role play game. Don't even 242 00:09:32,824 --> 00:09:33,824 Speaker 2: know what that is. That's what you like to do 243 00:09:33,824 --> 00:09:35,424 Speaker 2: on your own spare time. That's totally fine. 244 00:09:35,424 --> 00:09:37,104 Speaker 1: No, kind of one of those games where it's like 245 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:39,744 Speaker 1: choose your own ending, so you just play a character 246 00:09:39,784 --> 00:09:41,144 Speaker 1: and then you make up this big story. 247 00:09:41,264 --> 00:09:43,384 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say just usually I say give yourself a 248 00:09:43,424 --> 00:09:45,384 Speaker 2: couple of episodes to get into a show. But for 249 00:09:45,464 --> 00:09:48,544 Speaker 2: this one, I think the pilot is so well done, 250 00:09:48,744 --> 00:09:51,304 Speaker 2: and the world building is so good, and the humor 251 00:09:51,384 --> 00:09:55,784 Speaker 2: is so good, and the stakes are so it's about Yeah, 252 00:09:55,824 --> 00:09:59,144 Speaker 2: it's a post apocalyptic drama. Ella Panel is the lead. 253 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,464 Speaker 2: She's fantastic in it, and it's about these people who, like, 254 00:10:02,544 --> 00:10:04,864 Speaker 2: after you know the world it ends, they're living in 255 00:10:04,904 --> 00:10:07,184 Speaker 2: these bunkers, which is almost like this kind of like 256 00:10:07,304 --> 00:10:09,584 Speaker 2: their own little societies and they kind of feel very 257 00:10:09,624 --> 00:10:13,144 Speaker 2: rotron away living in these bunkers underneath the world because 258 00:10:13,144 --> 00:10:16,144 Speaker 2: they can't go to the surface, and then some stuff happens, 259 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:18,064 Speaker 2: really good plot twist in the first season, I've got 260 00:10:18,104 --> 00:10:20,704 Speaker 2: to say, where Ella Panell's character has to sort of 261 00:10:20,704 --> 00:10:22,304 Speaker 2: go to the surface and go on this almost like 262 00:10:22,344 --> 00:10:25,184 Speaker 2: a quest. But yes, so good fall out on Prime Video. 263 00:10:25,624 --> 00:10:27,104 Speaker 2: I just want to see one more in because I 264 00:10:27,104 --> 00:10:29,144 Speaker 2: don't think this is what we mentioned during our normal 265 00:10:29,184 --> 00:10:31,024 Speaker 2: shows this year, because it landed the end of the 266 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:33,304 Speaker 2: year when we were like in crazy end of year, 267 00:10:33,344 --> 00:10:35,624 Speaker 2: we were talking about a lot of Christmas movies that 268 00:10:35,784 --> 00:10:37,664 Speaker 2: time of year. Yeah, it was your fault. So it's 269 00:10:37,704 --> 00:10:41,224 Speaker 2: Black Doves on Netflix. So it's well, there you go, 270 00:10:41,264 --> 00:10:43,464 Speaker 2: you can add this shows. He came out in the 271 00:10:43,504 --> 00:10:45,864 Speaker 2: beginning of December, and I think that's you know, Pete 272 00:10:45,904 --> 00:10:48,104 Speaker 2: Christmas Party, end of year season, so people might have 273 00:10:48,144 --> 00:10:49,984 Speaker 2: missed it, you might want to watch it now. It's 274 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:53,224 Speaker 2: a new series on Netflix. It stars Kira Knightley, who 275 00:10:53,424 --> 00:10:55,744 Speaker 2: is this kind of deep cover agent and she's trying 276 00:10:55,744 --> 00:10:58,144 Speaker 2: to balance her life as being like a politician's wife, 277 00:10:58,144 --> 00:10:59,784 Speaker 2: but then she also goes on this kind of violent 278 00:10:59,864 --> 00:11:04,344 Speaker 2: quest and her old espionage, like sidekick Sam played by 279 00:11:04,344 --> 00:11:07,184 Speaker 2: Ben Winshaw, who was so amazing, comes back into her 280 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:09,704 Speaker 2: life and it's just kind of like revenge caper with 281 00:11:09,744 --> 00:11:11,304 Speaker 2: the two of them. So it's a bit of a 282 00:11:11,344 --> 00:11:13,344 Speaker 2: spy thriller. It's also got a bit of a Christmas 283 00:11:13,464 --> 00:11:15,064 Speaker 2: kind of bent to it if you're still like in 284 00:11:15,104 --> 00:11:17,704 Speaker 2: the wanting to watch something a bit festive. So I 285 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:19,464 Speaker 2: just feel like that might have slipped under the radar 286 00:11:19,544 --> 00:11:20,664 Speaker 2: for a lot of people at the end of the 287 00:11:20,744 --> 00:11:22,944 Speaker 2: year if you're looking for something new. Black Doves on 288 00:11:22,984 --> 00:11:24,664 Speaker 2: Netflix a bit of a spy thriller. 289 00:11:27,224 --> 00:11:31,264 Speaker 1: So the TV show I wanted to recommend that is 290 00:11:31,304 --> 00:11:36,864 Speaker 1: out right now is Squid Game Season two. I've been 291 00:11:36,904 --> 00:11:39,064 Speaker 1: so excited to watch this. 292 00:11:39,144 --> 00:11:42,744 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine like stepping back into this world again, 293 00:11:42,904 --> 00:11:44,624 Speaker 2: like the second season. I've only watched a bit of it. 294 00:11:44,624 --> 00:11:47,304 Speaker 2: It is incredible, but I just remember that first time 295 00:11:47,344 --> 00:11:51,184 Speaker 2: watching season one. What a visceral experience that is. Like, 296 00:11:51,224 --> 00:11:52,704 Speaker 2: you know how sometimes you just watch a TV show 297 00:11:52,744 --> 00:11:54,544 Speaker 2: and you're like, I wasn't just watching a TV show. 298 00:11:54,704 --> 00:11:57,224 Speaker 2: I was in the TV show. So I lived in 299 00:11:57,264 --> 00:11:59,744 Speaker 2: that TV show and I was terrified the whole time. 300 00:11:59,624 --> 00:12:01,024 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up, because I think 301 00:12:01,064 --> 00:12:03,984 Speaker 1: that's what they were going for for season two in particular. 302 00:12:04,064 --> 00:12:06,584 Speaker 1: So just to jog your memory of like the first 303 00:12:06,584 --> 00:12:11,104 Speaker 1: season of Squid Game, it's a survival thriller. That's how 304 00:12:11,144 --> 00:12:14,784 Speaker 1: it's categorized. It won so many Emmys, yes, even all 305 00:12:14,784 --> 00:12:17,464 Speaker 1: the actors won Emmys. It was absolutely brilliant. And it 306 00:12:17,544 --> 00:12:20,264 Speaker 1: follows four hundred and fifty six contestants. They all have 307 00:12:20,344 --> 00:12:23,424 Speaker 1: some sort of financial hardship and then you learn about 308 00:12:23,464 --> 00:12:27,264 Speaker 1: each individual storyline as the season goes on. But they're 309 00:12:27,264 --> 00:12:30,264 Speaker 1: invited to play a game, and it's like a series 310 00:12:30,304 --> 00:12:35,184 Speaker 1: of these children's games, except if you lose, you get killed, 311 00:12:35,704 --> 00:12:38,704 Speaker 1: and the show explores kind of like I think it's 312 00:12:38,744 --> 00:12:41,304 Speaker 1: like makes like all the games you played as a kid, 313 00:12:41,384 --> 00:12:43,304 Speaker 1: makes it like so much real, Like it reminded me 314 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:45,584 Speaker 1: of like when I would play the Floor is Lava 315 00:12:45,704 --> 00:12:47,864 Speaker 1: with my cousins, and then I'm like, wait, what if 316 00:12:47,904 --> 00:12:50,144 Speaker 1: that was like part of the game. Like it's this 317 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:53,584 Speaker 1: really like dark spin on these children's games. And there's 318 00:12:53,584 --> 00:12:56,104 Speaker 1: a winner at the end, and the winner wins forty 319 00:12:56,144 --> 00:12:59,304 Speaker 1: five billion dollars, which is like thirty nine million usd 320 00:12:59,464 --> 00:13:01,944 Speaker 1: dollars to help them out of their financial hardships. 321 00:13:01,984 --> 00:13:04,104 Speaker 2: And not only is the action of that show so good, 322 00:13:04,104 --> 00:13:05,704 Speaker 2: and you know those twists on I still think of 323 00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:08,944 Speaker 2: the Red Light Green Light girl she was. It's so 324 00:13:08,984 --> 00:13:10,904 Speaker 2: funny because I'm on Netflix through a party a few 325 00:13:10,904 --> 00:13:12,624 Speaker 2: months after it came out, and he walked in and 326 00:13:12,624 --> 00:13:14,664 Speaker 2: like they were like replicas of that girl everywhere. I'm like, 327 00:13:14,664 --> 00:13:16,264 Speaker 2: I kind of a good time when she's here. 328 00:13:16,384 --> 00:13:19,104 Speaker 1: And do you remember they did that big installation that 329 00:13:19,224 --> 00:13:21,184 Speaker 1: like Gorilla Marketing and Sydney. 330 00:13:20,904 --> 00:13:24,824 Speaker 2: Oh, they were scared the Marvel episode. Still I still 331 00:13:24,864 --> 00:13:27,704 Speaker 2: get tears and also just what that does about society 332 00:13:27,704 --> 00:13:30,064 Speaker 2: because so many people talk about obviously like the stunts 333 00:13:30,104 --> 00:13:31,744 Speaker 2: and everything the show, but I think what was super 334 00:13:31,744 --> 00:13:34,304 Speaker 2: interesting about the show and the characters was how they 335 00:13:34,304 --> 00:13:36,224 Speaker 2: all got to leave and then they all. 336 00:13:36,104 --> 00:13:38,464 Speaker 1: Came back because they wanted the money. 337 00:13:38,624 --> 00:13:41,104 Speaker 2: Like in strife, their lives were because of money, and 338 00:13:41,144 --> 00:13:43,064 Speaker 2: I think it adds as extra kind of layer. And 339 00:13:43,104 --> 00:13:44,984 Speaker 2: also the twist at the end. I guess there's like 340 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:46,664 Speaker 2: maybe five people in the world who haven't seen the 341 00:13:46,664 --> 00:13:48,824 Speaker 2: first season, so we weren't spoil it, but like the 342 00:13:48,864 --> 00:13:51,664 Speaker 2: wealth disparage is like very it's intense. 343 00:13:51,784 --> 00:13:56,464 Speaker 1: So the second season is as bloody intent so with 344 00:13:56,624 --> 00:14:00,304 Speaker 1: stars Songi Whoon, who's played by Lee Jong Zeri. Again, 345 00:14:00,904 --> 00:14:04,824 Speaker 1: he comes back into the games and he's the only contestant. 346 00:14:04,824 --> 00:14:07,024 Speaker 1: It's a whole new array of contestants, but he's the 347 00:14:07,064 --> 00:14:10,384 Speaker 1: only one who's played the games before, and it's the 348 00:14:10,384 --> 00:14:13,904 Speaker 1: exact same games except as one new one at the end. 349 00:14:14,624 --> 00:14:17,184 Speaker 1: It's the exact same games, which you might be thinking, like, oh, 350 00:14:17,224 --> 00:14:20,384 Speaker 1: what the hell, But what I think they did just 351 00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:23,544 Speaker 1: so clever was I feel like after the first season, 352 00:14:23,744 --> 00:14:26,704 Speaker 1: all everyone could talk about is how they felt like 353 00:14:26,784 --> 00:14:29,024 Speaker 1: they would have fared if they played the games, Like 354 00:14:29,424 --> 00:14:31,624 Speaker 1: how if we would have made the red light green light? 355 00:14:31,744 --> 00:14:34,024 Speaker 1: Like that cookie game where they had to lick the cookies, 356 00:14:34,064 --> 00:14:37,224 Speaker 1: like what cutout we choose? What like number we choose 357 00:14:37,304 --> 00:14:40,784 Speaker 1: to walk over the tamped glass And you're seeing him, 358 00:14:40,904 --> 00:14:43,664 Speaker 1: You're seeing Songy act as like the audience of like 359 00:14:44,024 --> 00:14:46,304 Speaker 1: knowing what each game, what to expect from each game, 360 00:14:46,384 --> 00:14:49,624 Speaker 1: and like seeing what he chooses as like a second 361 00:14:49,664 --> 00:14:54,144 Speaker 1: time around. It is so unbelievably like I want to 362 00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:56,784 Speaker 1: say traumatizing, but it's actually just like a really on 363 00:14:56,824 --> 00:15:00,104 Speaker 1: the edge thriller, like as like suspense to traumatizing. 364 00:15:00,144 --> 00:15:03,024 Speaker 2: Some look, sometimes TV is meant to be a bit traumatizing. 365 00:15:03,104 --> 00:15:06,344 Speaker 1: It's traumatizing in that sense, but you also get to learn. 366 00:15:06,384 --> 00:15:07,824 Speaker 1: I feel like we kind of got a glimpse at 367 00:15:07,824 --> 00:15:09,584 Speaker 1: it in the first season, but you learn more about 368 00:15:09,584 --> 00:15:12,424 Speaker 1: the squid Game world and the people behind squid Game, 369 00:15:12,464 --> 00:15:14,664 Speaker 1: and the people behind the mask who watched the people. 370 00:15:14,984 --> 00:15:17,304 Speaker 2: I just want some revenge. Yeah, I'm gonna need a 371 00:15:17,344 --> 00:15:19,464 Speaker 2: side of revenge, because I was like feeling very angry 372 00:15:19,504 --> 00:15:22,864 Speaker 2: at the whole situation towards the end of that first season, 373 00:15:22,984 --> 00:15:24,944 Speaker 2: and so as I'm watching, as I started watching this 374 00:15:24,984 --> 00:15:26,664 Speaker 2: new season, I was like, I'm gonna need some cold 375 00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:27,424 Speaker 2: hard revenge in here. 376 00:15:27,504 --> 00:15:28,064 Speaker 1: It's so good. 377 00:15:28,144 --> 00:15:29,984 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need some reckoning. I'm going to need people 378 00:15:29,984 --> 00:15:31,464 Speaker 2: to be held to account. I know this on how 379 00:15:31,504 --> 00:15:32,264 Speaker 2: the world works and. 380 00:15:32,224 --> 00:15:34,064 Speaker 1: The stress of poor song Gibe. He's like, guys, I 381 00:15:34,144 --> 00:15:34,984 Speaker 1: played the games before. 382 00:15:34,984 --> 00:15:37,664 Speaker 2: I listen to me and they're like, yeah, like we 383 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:40,064 Speaker 2: know better, which is exactly what people would do. Yeah, 384 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:41,304 Speaker 2: we would be like I know better. 385 00:15:41,664 --> 00:15:44,344 Speaker 1: Oh it is so so good. So yeah, if you 386 00:15:44,384 --> 00:15:46,224 Speaker 1: watch season one, I feel like, if you haven't watched 387 00:15:46,224 --> 00:15:49,704 Speaker 1: season one. Definitely watched that first absolutely, like you need 388 00:15:49,784 --> 00:15:52,424 Speaker 1: to in this world, maybe take a little bit of 389 00:15:52,464 --> 00:15:55,304 Speaker 1: a break and then watch season two. It's as good. 390 00:15:55,584 --> 00:15:58,144 Speaker 1: So Squid Game two. It's out on Netflix. Now. Let 391 00:15:58,144 --> 00:15:59,104 Speaker 1: me know how much you love it. 392 00:15:59,304 --> 00:16:01,704 Speaker 2: Imagine watching Squid Game one and two back to back 393 00:16:01,744 --> 00:16:03,744 Speaker 2: for the first time and then going to like New 394 00:16:03,824 --> 00:16:06,904 Speaker 2: Year's Day lunch with your family just like a little shell. 395 00:16:07,784 --> 00:16:10,784 Speaker 1: Glasses is tampered glass. 396 00:16:11,184 --> 00:16:14,064 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, okay, get me. I want to talk about 397 00:16:14,144 --> 00:16:16,504 Speaker 2: an amazing new comedy that has only just come out 398 00:16:16,544 --> 00:16:18,864 Speaker 2: on the nineteenth of December, so you know, if you 399 00:16:18,864 --> 00:16:21,064 Speaker 2: haven't seen it, put on your watch list. It's called Late. 400 00:16:21,144 --> 00:16:24,024 Speaker 2: It came out on Binge and it's actually a US 401 00:16:24,184 --> 00:16:26,744 Speaker 2: remake of an Australian show of the same name. So 402 00:16:26,864 --> 00:16:28,624 Speaker 2: definitely watched that one as well. But I feel like 403 00:16:28,984 --> 00:16:32,224 Speaker 2: this one just really stands out because the lead actress 404 00:16:32,304 --> 00:16:34,864 Speaker 2: is Stephanie Schu, who you might know from everything everywhere 405 00:16:34,904 --> 00:16:39,384 Speaker 2: all at once. She's me God the show for you. 406 00:16:39,464 --> 00:16:41,064 Speaker 1: That made me unbelievably excited. 407 00:16:41,264 --> 00:16:42,784 Speaker 2: Oh I know, no, this is why I want to 408 00:16:42,824 --> 00:16:45,304 Speaker 2: recommend this show. This is just a personal recommendation from me. 409 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:47,344 Speaker 2: To you, we can turn the podcast off. So a 410 00:16:47,384 --> 00:16:49,384 Speaker 2: lot of people obviously very upset that she didn't win 411 00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:52,024 Speaker 2: the Oscar for everything everywhere, all at once, and look 412 00:16:52,064 --> 00:16:54,344 Speaker 2: potentially looking back now, she should have won it. But 413 00:16:54,544 --> 00:16:56,744 Speaker 2: she's got a big future ahead of her, so she's 414 00:16:56,784 --> 00:17:01,544 Speaker 2: doing okay. So Stephanie Shoe plays Ruby, who discovers that 415 00:17:02,264 --> 00:17:04,744 Speaker 2: it's a dark comedy series, so there's a bit of death, 416 00:17:04,784 --> 00:17:06,824 Speaker 2: but it's also very light. She discovers that all of 417 00:17:06,864 --> 00:17:10,664 Speaker 2: the men that she's slept with have died, leading her 418 00:17:10,744 --> 00:17:13,144 Speaker 2: to believe that anyone who's on her kind of sex 419 00:17:13,304 --> 00:17:16,304 Speaker 2: timeline is at risk, and so she has to start 420 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:20,784 Speaker 2: going sounds like a love life metaphorically, Yeah, we don't 421 00:17:20,824 --> 00:17:22,384 Speaker 2: know if any of your past lovers have died, but 422 00:17:22,464 --> 00:17:24,464 Speaker 2: we'll see. So it's just I don't know, it's just 423 00:17:24,464 --> 00:17:27,264 Speaker 2: just like a really fresh, funny show. She's so good 424 00:17:27,304 --> 00:17:29,104 Speaker 2: in it and as Ruby, but she has to sort 425 00:17:29,144 --> 00:17:31,344 Speaker 2: of go back and you know, tell like a bank 426 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,664 Speaker 2: teller that she had a brief sexual encounter with. In 427 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:35,704 Speaker 2: movies and TV shows often had that thing where you're like, 428 00:17:35,744 --> 00:17:37,504 Speaker 2: you know, you have someone who's had some sort of 429 00:17:37,664 --> 00:17:41,144 Speaker 2: sexual experience, whether it's like an STD or a pregnancy 430 00:17:41,424 --> 00:17:43,304 Speaker 2: or you know something they have to go and tell 431 00:17:43,344 --> 00:17:43,824 Speaker 2: them about that. 432 00:17:43,824 --> 00:17:44,984 Speaker 1: I take the morning after pill. 433 00:17:45,264 --> 00:17:47,504 Speaker 2: Yeah, that idea of having to go back and confront 434 00:17:47,504 --> 00:17:50,064 Speaker 2: someone that you've had a sexual experience with and breaking 435 00:17:50,104 --> 00:17:51,624 Speaker 2: some bad news to them. But in this case, the 436 00:17:51,624 --> 00:17:53,904 Speaker 2: bad news is that you're either already dead or you're 437 00:17:53,904 --> 00:17:57,704 Speaker 2: probably gonna die. That he might be dying soon. And 438 00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:58,744 Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's like. 439 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:00,864 Speaker 1: You to go into a man and be like, hey, 440 00:18:00,904 --> 00:18:03,224 Speaker 1: I know we did this. Because we did this, you 441 00:18:03,304 --> 00:18:04,504 Speaker 1: might Yeah. 442 00:18:04,344 --> 00:18:05,904 Speaker 2: It's like going back in you home, like sometimes you 443 00:18:05,904 --> 00:18:08,184 Speaker 2: have to go back and tell past lovers about things 444 00:18:08,184 --> 00:18:09,424 Speaker 2: and so on. This says She's like, so I just 445 00:18:09,464 --> 00:18:11,384 Speaker 2: to go back and tell all the passman who are 446 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:14,824 Speaker 2: still alive that everyone I've slept with is dying under 447 00:18:14,824 --> 00:18:15,824 Speaker 2: suspicious circumstance. 448 00:18:15,824 --> 00:18:18,144 Speaker 1: Imagine their face is going like, oh, you're pregnant. They're 449 00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:18,624 Speaker 1: like worse. 450 00:18:18,784 --> 00:18:23,184 Speaker 2: It's actually so much worse for you. So late it's 451 00:18:23,224 --> 00:18:26,624 Speaker 2: on binge. Just if you're looking for like a fun 452 00:18:26,744 --> 00:18:29,784 Speaker 2: what an interesting concept? Yeah, exactly, I mean interesting concept 453 00:18:29,784 --> 00:18:30,824 Speaker 2: to watch in a comedy. 454 00:18:33,464 --> 00:18:37,864 Speaker 1: Okay, my next recommendation is another season two. It's season 455 00:18:37,904 --> 00:18:39,744 Speaker 1: two of Black Snow, which is. 456 00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 2: Out on stand. Oh that's a good one right now. 457 00:18:42,064 --> 00:18:46,504 Speaker 1: I binged the whole thing. It is brilliant. It stars 458 00:18:46,504 --> 00:18:49,264 Speaker 1: Travis for Mel who I've also just watched his interview 459 00:18:49,344 --> 00:18:51,544 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Fallon. It's really funny. 460 00:18:51,584 --> 00:18:54,464 Speaker 2: He's a great actions, so good in everything, very good 461 00:18:54,464 --> 00:19:01,304 Speaker 2: looking Viking. You know, we stay for the good acting, 462 00:19:01,344 --> 00:19:02,464 Speaker 2: but we come for the good face. 463 00:19:02,624 --> 00:19:06,544 Speaker 1: And he plays that typical tortured detective. So he plays 464 00:19:06,664 --> 00:19:10,024 Speaker 1: James Cormac, and I always feel like the tortured detective 465 00:19:10,464 --> 00:19:13,504 Speaker 1: is such an overdone trope until I watched Black Snow 466 00:19:13,544 --> 00:19:16,624 Speaker 1: and I'm like, bring it back, bring back the sad detective. 467 00:19:17,184 --> 00:19:22,424 Speaker 1: So season two you learn more about James Cormack's personal life. 468 00:19:22,504 --> 00:19:23,944 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got a glimpse of it in 469 00:19:23,984 --> 00:19:26,264 Speaker 1: season one where we find out about his dad and 470 00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:29,144 Speaker 1: his upbringing. But now he's kind of on a part 471 00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:32,864 Speaker 1: to kind of find his brother who he assumed had 472 00:19:33,064 --> 00:19:35,424 Speaker 1: passed away. Well, he vanished when he was a younger boy, 473 00:19:35,464 --> 00:19:37,544 Speaker 1: but he assumed he'd passed away. So he's on a 474 00:19:37,584 --> 00:19:41,464 Speaker 1: path to finding his brother who disappeared, while also following 475 00:19:41,544 --> 00:19:44,344 Speaker 1: a cold case. It's about the disappearance of a girl 476 00:19:44,464 --> 00:19:48,304 Speaker 1: in Queensland named Zoe Jacobs. She disappeared on her twenty 477 00:19:48,424 --> 00:19:51,744 Speaker 1: first birthday in two thousand and three, and now it's 478 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:53,984 Speaker 1: modern day and he's back there like dealing with the 479 00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:57,584 Speaker 1: same people. It's very similar storytelling as Season one, where 480 00:19:57,584 --> 00:20:00,184 Speaker 1: it jumps back and forth from the time the crime 481 00:20:00,264 --> 00:20:04,064 Speaker 1: happened versus now him trying to investigate everyone in It 482 00:20:04,104 --> 00:20:06,984 Speaker 1: is so brilliant and I love seeing a flashback that's 483 00:20:07,024 --> 00:20:09,264 Speaker 1: not even that long ago, Like twousand and three is 484 00:20:09,344 --> 00:20:11,864 Speaker 1: not that long ago at all, but it's like I 485 00:20:11,864 --> 00:20:14,064 Speaker 1: feel like with these detective shows and movies, it's always 486 00:20:14,104 --> 00:20:16,944 Speaker 1: like the nineties or the eighties where everything was such 487 00:20:16,984 --> 00:20:19,864 Speaker 1: a different era, but two thousand and three like seeing 488 00:20:19,904 --> 00:20:22,064 Speaker 1: that the stuff is still happening. In fact, it was 489 00:20:22,104 --> 00:20:24,984 Speaker 1: happening so much more for young women who were like 490 00:20:25,264 --> 00:20:28,024 Speaker 1: a bit different, Like she was kind of like a 491 00:20:28,064 --> 00:20:30,464 Speaker 1: rebellion who had like her own radio show, who would 492 00:20:30,504 --> 00:20:32,904 Speaker 1: stay out late and I'll tell her parents where she is, 493 00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:35,864 Speaker 1: and her parents would like fight, and then they're divorced, 494 00:20:35,984 --> 00:20:39,224 Speaker 1: and then it just like goes into like kind of 495 00:20:39,664 --> 00:20:42,664 Speaker 1: the inner monologue of a girl growing up in that era, 496 00:20:42,944 --> 00:20:47,064 Speaker 1: and it has done so well. Oh my god, everyone 497 00:20:47,144 --> 00:20:48,584 Speaker 1: just watch it. It's one of tho shows I need 498 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:49,504 Speaker 1: to talk about right now. 499 00:20:49,744 --> 00:20:51,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's coming back for a second season because 500 00:20:51,824 --> 00:20:54,824 Speaker 2: I feel like, obviously the first season was so critically acclaimed. 501 00:20:54,904 --> 00:20:57,144 Speaker 2: I love that fans loved it. Just knowing like a 502 00:20:57,224 --> 00:21:00,024 Speaker 2: little bit around the production and having sent writers to 503 00:21:00,424 --> 00:21:03,104 Speaker 2: the sets when it was filming. Just think the care 504 00:21:03,144 --> 00:21:06,224 Speaker 2: that was taken behind the scenes. Even the journalists who 505 00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:09,584 Speaker 2: went to the set visits did like cultural sensitivity training 506 00:21:09,824 --> 00:21:12,304 Speaker 2: before god, like, especially in the first season before going 507 00:21:12,424 --> 00:21:15,024 Speaker 2: like interviewing the car through. And so when you know 508 00:21:15,064 --> 00:21:17,184 Speaker 2: that level of care has been taken behind the scenes, 509 00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:19,024 Speaker 2: I think you can also see that it comes out 510 00:21:19,184 --> 00:21:19,744 Speaker 2: on the screen. 511 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,544 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And like season two, I think it's 512 00:21:22,584 --> 00:21:25,264 Speaker 1: like he's kind of I don't know if there's a spoiler, 513 00:21:25,304 --> 00:21:26,824 Speaker 1: but he's a bit. 514 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:30,464 Speaker 2: More tortured, a bit more tortured. 515 00:21:30,744 --> 00:21:32,784 Speaker 1: Of course, like a lot of his personal life is 516 00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:37,144 Speaker 1: like also probably as important or as showcased as the 517 00:21:37,144 --> 00:21:40,224 Speaker 1: main storyline of the case. So if you love him 518 00:21:40,504 --> 00:21:43,224 Speaker 1: and you love learning about his life for season two is. 519 00:21:43,144 --> 00:21:46,984 Speaker 2: The okay, Well, make a little bit emotional about this one, 520 00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:50,344 Speaker 2: because it's five years have been talking about this show 521 00:21:50,384 --> 00:21:52,544 Speaker 2: and now it's coming to an end. It is the 522 00:21:52,584 --> 00:21:56,464 Speaker 2: STAND original series Bump, which very last year that was 523 00:21:56,504 --> 00:22:01,184 Speaker 2: the correct rescis thank you Forever yea. So it's run 524 00:22:01,224 --> 00:22:03,104 Speaker 2: for five seasons, which is a long time. It's like 525 00:22:03,144 --> 00:22:05,824 Speaker 2: Stand's longest running original show and also one of it's 526 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:09,384 Speaker 2: most successful, so that's huge. And all episodes came out 527 00:22:09,384 --> 00:22:11,504 Speaker 2: on Boxing Day for the final season. So if you 528 00:22:11,584 --> 00:22:13,104 Speaker 2: haven't watched it, I mean, you should go back and 529 00:22:13,144 --> 00:22:15,744 Speaker 2: obviously watch seasons one through to four. But if you 530 00:22:15,824 --> 00:22:17,624 Speaker 2: haven't watched it yet and you need to pick up 531 00:22:17,624 --> 00:22:20,424 Speaker 2: on season five, now would be the time. So casting 532 00:22:20,424 --> 00:22:22,664 Speaker 2: it bay back to season one if you're not a Crossbump. 533 00:22:23,104 --> 00:22:25,264 Speaker 2: It tells the story of this like you know, it's 534 00:22:25,304 --> 00:22:27,504 Speaker 2: a kind of a typical family living in Sydney. You 535 00:22:27,664 --> 00:22:30,824 Speaker 2: Claudia Carvin, who's like a school principal, and then her 536 00:22:30,984 --> 00:22:34,144 Speaker 2: daughter Claudia Carvin, who is also a producer and co 537 00:22:34,184 --> 00:22:36,664 Speaker 2: creator of the show, so this is like her mastermind. 538 00:22:36,704 --> 00:22:41,024 Speaker 2: She's so just an incredible actress and also creative. She 539 00:22:41,104 --> 00:22:44,064 Speaker 2: and her husband Dom played by Anger Sampson, have separated. 540 00:22:44,104 --> 00:22:46,224 Speaker 2: They're still living in the same house, and then they've 541 00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:48,384 Speaker 2: got two children, and one of them is a teenage 542 00:22:48,384 --> 00:22:51,744 Speaker 2: girl called Ollie. Well her four name's Olympia Ollie played 543 00:22:51,744 --> 00:22:55,304 Speaker 2: by the incredible Natalie Morris. And Ollie is a very 544 00:22:55,344 --> 00:22:58,224 Speaker 2: you know, she's like a top student. She's very serious, 545 00:22:58,664 --> 00:23:01,304 Speaker 2: really together, kind of like the golden child of the family. 546 00:23:01,824 --> 00:23:04,784 Speaker 2: And one day in the school toilet, she starts having 547 00:23:04,864 --> 00:23:07,744 Speaker 2: a bit of pain and that becomes very serious, and 548 00:23:07,784 --> 00:23:09,784 Speaker 2: she can't figure out what's happening, Like, as far as 549 00:23:09,784 --> 00:23:12,664 Speaker 2: she knows, she's a perfectly healthy, normal teenage girl, and 550 00:23:12,704 --> 00:23:14,424 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, her body feels like it's being 551 00:23:14,504 --> 00:23:17,224 Speaker 2: ripped apart with pain. They call it ambulance, and on 552 00:23:17,264 --> 00:23:19,744 Speaker 2: the way to the hospital she delivers a baby. 553 00:23:19,864 --> 00:23:21,384 Speaker 1: So Toyler baby. 554 00:23:21,624 --> 00:23:23,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. They actually call her that, the 555 00:23:23,384 --> 00:23:25,984 Speaker 2: baby in the latest seasons. So she had no idea 556 00:23:26,024 --> 00:23:27,584 Speaker 2: she was pregnant, which there are a lot of case 557 00:23:27,624 --> 00:23:28,624 Speaker 2: studies of that happening. 558 00:23:28,784 --> 00:23:32,624 Speaker 1: It happened way too often. Why haven't we figured this out? 559 00:23:33,064 --> 00:23:34,304 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's just one of those things where 560 00:23:34,304 --> 00:23:35,864 Speaker 2: I can't even wrap my head around having a stomach 561 00:23:35,904 --> 00:23:36,824 Speaker 2: pain all of a sudden, being like that. 562 00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:38,784 Speaker 1: You always know someone like it's always a friend of 563 00:23:38,784 --> 00:23:39,184 Speaker 1: a friend. 564 00:23:39,504 --> 00:23:41,744 Speaker 2: Well, apparently that's how Bump started, is that people on 565 00:23:41,784 --> 00:23:43,464 Speaker 2: the show were saying that they'd heard of this happening 566 00:23:43,504 --> 00:23:45,864 Speaker 2: to people. So then she has a boyfriend and people 567 00:23:45,864 --> 00:23:48,584 Speaker 2: think that it's Lucky her boyfriend, but it actually turns 568 00:23:48,624 --> 00:23:51,144 Speaker 2: out to be Santi, another boy that she's gone to 569 00:23:51,184 --> 00:23:53,704 Speaker 2: school with, played by Carlos Sanz and Junior, and so 570 00:23:53,824 --> 00:23:55,464 Speaker 2: they didn't really know each other. They hooked up one 571 00:23:55,544 --> 00:23:57,624 Speaker 2: night at a party, like the hottie. Yeah, he's like 572 00:23:57,664 --> 00:24:00,704 Speaker 2: the kind of hotty bad boy almost of the school. 573 00:24:00,904 --> 00:24:02,664 Speaker 2: And so then all of a sudden they have this 574 00:24:02,704 --> 00:24:05,344 Speaker 2: baby together and they've already slept together once, so it's 575 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:07,664 Speaker 2: about them kind of and they start to fall in love, 576 00:24:07,704 --> 00:24:09,744 Speaker 2: which I think is really cute as they co parent 577 00:24:09,824 --> 00:24:12,064 Speaker 2: their daughter, who they called just Cinda, which is so 578 00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,104 Speaker 2: funny because it was at the time when j Cinda 579 00:24:14,144 --> 00:24:17,144 Speaker 2: Arjenne was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and I 580 00:24:17,184 --> 00:24:19,264 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, girl, how she's amazing, We love her, 581 00:24:19,304 --> 00:24:22,024 Speaker 2: and You're like, that's exactly what a sixteen year old 582 00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:24,184 Speaker 2: girl in Australia would call her baby at the time. 583 00:24:24,464 --> 00:24:26,624 Speaker 2: It's so funny because we watched the first few episodes 584 00:24:26,624 --> 00:24:28,944 Speaker 2: of Bump season five together and there's a joke in 585 00:24:28,984 --> 00:24:31,544 Speaker 2: there about her name being like feeling dated because her 586 00:24:31,584 --> 00:24:32,784 Speaker 2: name is just Cinda. 587 00:24:32,904 --> 00:24:35,544 Speaker 1: I had a baby, I'd be like, coma, yeah, exactly, 588 00:24:35,704 --> 00:24:36,544 Speaker 1: That's exactly it. 589 00:24:36,864 --> 00:24:39,104 Speaker 2: So as the show goes on, it's about these two 590 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,824 Speaker 2: different families. So it's about Ollie and Santi figuring out 591 00:24:42,824 --> 00:24:45,224 Speaker 2: how to be high school students and everything that entails, 592 00:24:45,224 --> 00:24:47,544 Speaker 2: figuring out how to have this new relationship between the 593 00:24:47,544 --> 00:24:49,104 Speaker 2: two of them, but also they've got a baby that 594 00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:52,984 Speaker 2: they're now responsible for. It's about also like their families 595 00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:55,584 Speaker 2: coming together and like different things that happened in their lives. 596 00:24:55,864 --> 00:24:57,824 Speaker 2: And now that we're in season five, there's been a 597 00:24:57,824 --> 00:25:00,144 Speaker 2: bit of a time jump. So in season five we 598 00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:02,384 Speaker 2: saw them get married in the previous season, which was 599 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,864 Speaker 2: very romantic and lovely, and now we find them at 600 00:25:05,904 --> 00:25:08,424 Speaker 2: this place where they're both adults. They're trying to figure 601 00:25:08,424 --> 00:25:10,504 Speaker 2: out their lives. They also have like a six year 602 00:25:10,504 --> 00:25:14,184 Speaker 2: old child, and Olie is pregnant. Again, there's so much 603 00:25:14,224 --> 00:25:15,344 Speaker 2: going with their family. 604 00:25:15,104 --> 00:25:16,624 Speaker 1: And then their parents are getting older. 605 00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:18,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, their parents are getting older. There's different things to 606 00:25:18,704 --> 00:25:22,184 Speaker 2: deal with there, and also Claudia Carvan's character of Angie 607 00:25:22,544 --> 00:25:25,664 Speaker 2: is going through some really big health struggles regarding cancer, 608 00:25:25,664 --> 00:25:28,144 Speaker 2: and you sort of see her looking at her life 609 00:25:28,144 --> 00:25:30,624 Speaker 2: and what she's leaving behind with her children, and so 610 00:25:30,664 --> 00:25:32,624 Speaker 2: you have these and at the same time, when Ollie's 611 00:25:32,664 --> 00:25:34,824 Speaker 2: expecting a new baby, and so you have these kind 612 00:25:34,824 --> 00:25:37,464 Speaker 2: of different parallels of life and motherhood. And it's so 613 00:25:37,544 --> 00:25:40,264 Speaker 2: interesting because I like so many Christmases because Bump's been 614 00:25:40,264 --> 00:25:42,304 Speaker 2: coming out on Boxing Day for the last couple of years, 615 00:25:42,424 --> 00:25:44,904 Speaker 2: so so many of my Christmas holidays have revolved around 616 00:25:45,304 --> 00:25:47,824 Speaker 2: watching Bump, and you know, like kind of living in 617 00:25:47,864 --> 00:25:50,264 Speaker 2: that world. And it was interesting because last year I 618 00:25:50,304 --> 00:25:51,664 Speaker 2: went to the Bump set and I was watching some 619 00:25:51,744 --> 00:25:54,184 Speaker 2: filming and I was interviewing the cast, especially because they 620 00:25:54,744 --> 00:25:57,464 Speaker 2: introduced in the later seasons like Steph Tisdale and Dylan 621 00:25:57,504 --> 00:26:00,464 Speaker 2: or Kodd's characters. I just think, are so give those 622 00:26:00,464 --> 00:26:03,464 Speaker 2: two a spin off. They're so funny together. And I 623 00:26:03,504 --> 00:26:05,024 Speaker 2: was sitting on the set and then I started talking 624 00:26:05,024 --> 00:26:07,544 Speaker 2: to Claudia carbon and we were just talking at the 625 00:26:07,544 --> 00:26:09,624 Speaker 2: show and what it means to people, and I was 626 00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:11,344 Speaker 2: telling her how much I loved it, and she was like, 627 00:26:11,384 --> 00:26:13,024 Speaker 2: you know, cause she's also a co creator and producer, 628 00:26:13,064 --> 00:26:14,624 Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, why do you love it? 629 00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:17,384 Speaker 2: And I started saying, Oh, I just find it really cozy, 630 00:26:17,464 --> 00:26:19,784 Speaker 2: and I find it really lovely, and it's this story 631 00:26:19,784 --> 00:26:22,184 Speaker 2: of family and I love being in the house that 632 00:26:22,304 --> 00:26:24,344 Speaker 2: you know, the characters live in. And she loved that, 633 00:26:24,544 --> 00:26:26,544 Speaker 2: but she also said, yeah, it's interesting that you say 634 00:26:26,544 --> 00:26:28,224 Speaker 2: that because so many people say that to me of like, 635 00:26:28,504 --> 00:26:30,584 Speaker 2: I just find this show so comforting, but she said, like, 636 00:26:30,624 --> 00:26:33,464 Speaker 2: I think it's also very boundary pushing. The things we've 637 00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:36,024 Speaker 2: talked about and the issues the characters talk about, and 638 00:26:36,104 --> 00:26:38,024 Speaker 2: even her like character like falling in love with a 639 00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:40,464 Speaker 2: woman in later life and all these other things and 640 00:26:40,504 --> 00:26:43,584 Speaker 2: you know, teen pregnancy and motherhood and things that happened, 641 00:26:43,584 --> 00:26:45,824 Speaker 2: and there's an abortion storyline in this new season. And 642 00:26:45,864 --> 00:26:48,024 Speaker 2: she was saying to me, like, I love that people 643 00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:50,784 Speaker 2: find this show lovely and comforting and family centered, because 644 00:26:50,784 --> 00:26:52,864 Speaker 2: it's meant to be that. But it's also this big 645 00:26:53,224 --> 00:26:55,824 Speaker 2: genre pushing show in Australia that tackles a lot of 646 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:58,024 Speaker 2: different issues from like race and age and family and 647 00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:00,704 Speaker 2: all these things. And I also think that's super important 648 00:27:01,224 --> 00:27:03,264 Speaker 2: to put in as well. Is that just because it's 649 00:27:03,304 --> 00:27:05,344 Speaker 2: a very like almost like a female led show that 650 00:27:05,464 --> 00:27:08,184 Speaker 2: centers on motherhood. We do tend to sometimes to write 651 00:27:08,184 --> 00:27:10,224 Speaker 2: it off. It's like, oh, it's just really nice and comforting. 652 00:27:10,624 --> 00:27:14,104 Speaker 2: Is like no, it also like takes these big storytelling swings. 653 00:27:14,144 --> 00:27:17,584 Speaker 2: So yeah, the final season of Bomb, She's allegend Stan. 654 00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:20,144 Speaker 2: If you haven't watched it, you've got five seasons. How exciting. 655 00:27:20,264 --> 00:27:22,664 Speaker 2: Let's go And if you're like ready for the last season, 656 00:27:22,744 --> 00:27:24,304 Speaker 2: then it's all just there waiting for you. 657 00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:27,184 Speaker 1: It's an emotional one. Thank you so much for listening 658 00:27:27,224 --> 00:27:30,544 Speaker 1: to the spill today. Guess what Next week, we are 659 00:27:30,584 --> 00:27:34,184 Speaker 1: back live in the studio for Monday and Tuesday because 660 00:27:34,264 --> 00:27:37,944 Speaker 1: we are covering the Golden Globes. 661 00:27:38,144 --> 00:27:40,504 Speaker 2: Yes, we had to pull ourselves out of holiday retirement 662 00:27:40,504 --> 00:27:43,304 Speaker 2: to come back. Welcome one of the biggest red carpet 663 00:27:43,344 --> 00:27:46,664 Speaker 2: moments of the year because we have TV coming together 664 00:27:46,704 --> 00:27:49,144 Speaker 2: with movies which most award shows don't have that, and 665 00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:52,344 Speaker 2: they serve alcohol during the ceremony. 666 00:27:52,664 --> 00:27:56,864 Speaker 1: Time news and we're very, very excited. We also have 667 00:27:57,104 --> 00:28:00,064 Speaker 1: some great episodes coming up. We're going to be sharing 668 00:28:00,224 --> 00:28:03,944 Speaker 1: the best celebrity rebrands of twenty twenty four, as well 669 00:28:03,944 --> 00:28:06,144 Speaker 1: as our favorite books of twenty twenty four because you 670 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:08,824 Speaker 1: guys love our book recommendations and we love reading, so 671 00:28:08,904 --> 00:28:11,224 Speaker 1: thank you very much. We will be back here in 672 00:28:11,264 --> 00:28:13,384 Speaker 1: your podcast beet at three pm on Monday. 673 00:28:13,624 --> 00:28:24,024 Speaker 2: Bye bye, MHM