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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed.

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Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brudnick.

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Speaker 2: I've had three hours of sleep, but you still look

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show today, look, all hell has

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Speaker 1: broken loose with Kanye West. He's gone rogue on socials again,

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Speaker 1: but there's actually a really dark and disturbing side. It

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into that. Plus we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about the resurgence of our favorite NEPO baby. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because here's in the spotlight. It's an unexpected tone of events.

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Speaker 1: We never thought we'd be having this conversation, but here

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Speaker 3: But Firstiny, here's my anxiety giety.

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Speaker 2: Can I just fan girl for a moment?

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Speaker 1: Please do so?

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Speaker 2: One of our favorite artists, do Chi. She won Best

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Speaker 2: Rap Album at this year's Grammys, So so exciting. She

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Speaker 2: has officially released a song called anxiety so good. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you've heard the song and you've seen like all

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Speaker 2: the I guess like promo around it, you must be

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Speaker 2: thinking this song doesn't feel new. And that's because it

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Speaker 2: was trending on TikTok for a really long time before

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Speaker 2: They found it on her SoundCloud and it's just been

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Speaker 2: released it. If it sounds familiar to you, it's because

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Speaker 2: she's used Goatiers somebody I used to know instrumentals, yes,

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Speaker 2: and it's like such a different sound for her. So

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Speaker 2: we love Dochie's original music with like her hardcore rapping,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the whole that woman has over

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Speaker 2: It's on high repeat. Also, I'm not sure if we

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Speaker 2: And we were listening to her together.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you the Apple Side of Vinegar premiere. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So so where that I have a feeling the music

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Speaker 2: It is so funny. So Chet Hanks. The reason why

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Speaker 2: it stuff. So twenty twenty one, he started a campaign.

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Speaker 2: He's used the N word in a song of his

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Speaker 2: it because it's part of the culture, and it's part

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Speaker 1: No, no, a lot of sun You can't say that

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Speaker 1: and then also have White Boy Summer. Those two things

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Speaker 2: And it's just like that, the juxtaposition of everything he's

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Speaker 1: He's not a good guy, no, and his only redemption

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Speaker 2: And everything that we've talked about has been allegations, except

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Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, Well there's a lot happening there. But

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Speaker 1: I love his music Northwest, his daughter, his oldest daughter

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Speaker 2: you can listen to it, like the song I think

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Speaker 1: Recorded it's out there. It's out there.

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Speaker 1: and understanding for what he was going through. But it

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Speaker 1: just feels like it goes in these cycles where he'll

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Speaker 1: post all of these horrific things, and then he'll post

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Speaker 1: terrible things about like the Kardashians and family, like this

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Speaker 1: undercurrent of like violence, and there's all these other accusations

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Speaker 1: around him and his wife Bianka, and then it'll sort

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Speaker 1: of just stop for a moment, and then people will

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Speaker 1: talk about how great his music is again, and then

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Speaker 1: it'll cycle like starts again.

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Speaker 2: The issue with the cycle now is that his kids

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Speaker 2: are old enough to understand what's happening. Yeah, Like they

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Speaker 2: go to school, even if they're Kadashian family, and like

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Speaker 2: the team who work with them try to protect them

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Speaker 2: from seeing them stuff. School kids see everything. Oh like

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Speaker 2: their friends are going to be telling them exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially in this area that they're in, because

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Speaker 1: like in that school, like everyone's parents are in the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry or in that kind of you know la

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Speaker 1: or that calabasis area of like you know that community,

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Speaker 1: and so they would probably have even more information about

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Speaker 1: the situation than we do. And it just feels like

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Speaker 1: it's always going to sort of play out very publicly

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Speaker 1: and there's no kind of end to it. But this

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Speaker 1: almost feels like there might be some sort of interjection

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Speaker 1: they can do just because of the legal situation around

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Speaker 1: the trademarking. But then I just you know, if in

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian situation, like what is she going to do

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Speaker 1: so he can't see their children anymore? Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: that would also blow up into a very big public situation.

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Speaker 1: They have mentioned it on previous episodes of The Kardashians.

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Speaker 1: In previous seasons, they've shown a little bit of like

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian breaking down and sobbing and also apologizing to

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Speaker 1: her family. There's a scene where she apologizes to her

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Speaker 1: family for everything that Kane has done to them in

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Speaker 1: the past, and you do get the sense watching that

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Speaker 1: scene that so much more has happened behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: that they haven't let viewers see. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing, well, I'm sure what we're seeing, Like

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Speaker 1: with any other family, it is a very surface level.

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Speaker 1: So at this stage, the song is sort of out

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Speaker 1: in the world. I don't know what will happen next,

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Speaker 1: and Seawan Colmes is still set to go to trial

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Speaker 1: in May, so I think this is going to get

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Speaker 1: a lot messier.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

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Speaker 2: If you missed our Friday's episode, we did a brutally

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Speaker 2: honest review of the Oscar Champion movie Anora. It was

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Speaker 2: a really good one. We got quite emotional in that one.

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Speaker 1: We did, and obviously you should see the movie first,

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Speaker 1: but if you haven't, it's okay because we do get

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Speaker 1: into how it's lept the Oscars, we get into all

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Speaker 1: the controversies around it, we get into the backstories of

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Speaker 1: the actors who were cast and all that's very wild.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a good listen overall. I think it's

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Speaker 1: so good.

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Speaker 2: We'll put a link to that in our show notes,

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