1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:23,793 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. 2 00:00:18,674 --> 00:00:19,474 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. 3 00:00:19,553 --> 00:00:22,514 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. My 4 00:00:22,634 --> 00:00:25,754 Speaker 3: name's Mansiaus Warren. I'm the executive producer of the Spill 5 00:00:25,914 --> 00:00:30,074 Speaker 3: and today I'm joined by daneer provis Hi, and today 6 00:00:30,114 --> 00:00:33,274 Speaker 3: we are bringing you your weekly dose of maths chat. 7 00:00:33,354 --> 00:00:35,513 Speaker 3: And I think if you watched it this week, it 8 00:00:35,594 --> 00:00:37,714 Speaker 3: can probably be summed up in two words. 9 00:00:37,954 --> 00:00:40,354 Speaker 2: What are the two words, Tina, finger banging? It's finger 10 00:00:40,394 --> 00:00:42,714 Speaker 2: banging one word or two? I think it's two. 11 00:00:43,714 --> 00:00:45,713 Speaker 3: It was really the story arc that took over our 12 00:00:45,754 --> 00:00:48,513 Speaker 3: screens and we I'm scared to say we can't wait 13 00:00:48,513 --> 00:00:49,953 Speaker 3: to get into it, but I guess you can't wait 14 00:00:49,994 --> 00:00:50,633 Speaker 3: to get into it. 15 00:00:50,994 --> 00:00:53,753 Speaker 2: But first we need to talk to you about a. 16 00:00:53,714 --> 00:00:56,914 Speaker 3: Couple of guys in the limelight who are keeping it 17 00:00:56,994 --> 00:01:01,633 Speaker 3: real for our average kings out there. So Ed Sheeran 18 00:01:01,714 --> 00:01:05,554 Speaker 3: appeared on Benny Blanco's podcast Friends Keep Secrets this week 19 00:01:05,994 --> 00:01:08,914 Speaker 3: and his co host Little Dicky calls Ed, you know, 20 00:01:08,994 --> 00:01:12,074 Speaker 3: the most normal person he knew in their early twenties, 21 00:01:12,114 --> 00:01:14,474 Speaker 3: and it basically kicked off this wider chat about how 22 00:01:14,514 --> 00:01:17,194 Speaker 3: they're just regular looking guys even though they're in the limelight. 23 00:01:17,234 --> 00:01:19,714 Speaker 3: So I'll play to you what they said on the podcast. 24 00:01:20,034 --> 00:01:22,074 Speaker 4: I felt like you were the most normal person. 25 00:01:22,114 --> 00:01:24,114 Speaker 2: I obviously were from different places, but there was like 26 00:01:24,154 --> 00:01:24,834 Speaker 2: I felt like. 27 00:01:24,794 --> 00:01:26,914 Speaker 4: Well, we were all so young and like Ed's like 28 00:01:27,394 --> 00:01:29,434 Speaker 4: I feel like me and Ed share the same thing 29 00:01:29,474 --> 00:01:31,354 Speaker 4: where it's like there's a lot of guys that get 30 00:01:31,394 --> 00:01:33,594 Speaker 4: like big that like you're like, oh yeah, like that 31 00:01:33,634 --> 00:01:36,114 Speaker 4: person should be like so like you see like someone 32 00:01:36,114 --> 00:01:38,834 Speaker 4: they're like doing the cool like I feel like both, 33 00:01:39,234 --> 00:01:41,754 Speaker 4: especially me, I don't like I'm like the guy I 34 00:01:41,874 --> 00:01:44,114 Speaker 4: like give and you're the same way you like give 35 00:01:44,234 --> 00:01:45,314 Speaker 4: like the normal guy. 36 00:01:45,474 --> 00:01:45,794 Speaker 1: Hope. 37 00:01:46,114 --> 00:01:49,234 Speaker 2: Like it's like we like, you know, we do too. Yeah, 38 00:01:49,314 --> 00:01:51,434 Speaker 2: yeah you are too. Yeah a bunch of normal dude. 39 00:01:51,514 --> 00:01:51,714 Speaker 3: Yeah. 40 00:01:51,714 --> 00:01:53,794 Speaker 4: We're like we're like like there's some guys who are 41 00:01:53,834 --> 00:01:56,354 Speaker 4: like so hot and can like do all this stuff, 42 00:01:56,354 --> 00:01:58,994 Speaker 4: and we're like we like shouldn't have been Who are 43 00:01:58,994 --> 00:02:02,754 Speaker 4: you thinking about? I don't know, like like like you 44 00:02:02,794 --> 00:02:03,394 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 45 00:02:03,634 --> 00:02:06,794 Speaker 1: There's definitely the popular kid in school who's super super attractive. 46 00:02:09,353 --> 00:02:12,113 Speaker 2: They say those they say those kids. Chris My god. 47 00:02:12,154 --> 00:02:14,154 Speaker 1: Ed shared had to bring that one back home. He 48 00:02:14,194 --> 00:02:17,513 Speaker 1: didn't finish a single sentence like what he's like those 49 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,474 Speaker 1: guys that are like, you know, they get like and. 50 00:02:19,434 --> 00:02:21,554 Speaker 2: Then I'm like, you know, he's like, you know, like 51 00:02:21,634 --> 00:02:22,274 Speaker 2: Jacob Lordy. 52 00:02:23,594 --> 00:02:25,314 Speaker 3: Honestly, if I was aired and I was a guest 53 00:02:25,314 --> 00:02:26,834 Speaker 3: on a podcast and they brought that up, like you 54 00:02:26,874 --> 00:02:28,714 Speaker 3: know how we're just really average and we're not like 55 00:02:28,754 --> 00:02:30,314 Speaker 3: super hot like everyone else, to know what, I might 56 00:02:30,314 --> 00:02:32,034 Speaker 3: be a bit like, hey man, he's so offended. 57 00:02:32,114 --> 00:02:33,793 Speaker 2: Imagine if I was like, you know what, you're great 58 00:02:33,834 --> 00:02:34,674 Speaker 2: because you're just like. 59 00:02:34,794 --> 00:02:35,834 Speaker 1: A normal girl. 60 00:02:35,954 --> 00:02:39,194 Speaker 2: You just look like a normal girl. It's so relatable normal. 61 00:02:39,394 --> 00:02:41,234 Speaker 2: He's so brave for you to be in the spot. 62 00:02:42,834 --> 00:02:44,154 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they have a point. 63 00:02:44,194 --> 00:02:46,834 Speaker 3: There are some sentiment Oh I love the idea, like 64 00:02:46,954 --> 00:02:50,474 Speaker 3: there are some people who have definitely been aided by 65 00:02:50,514 --> 00:02:52,234 Speaker 3: how they look in terms of where they've got to do. 66 00:02:52,314 --> 00:02:53,633 Speaker 2: Are we saying we don't have talent. 67 00:02:53,754 --> 00:02:56,754 Speaker 3: No, but it's such a competitive industry and obviously, looking 68 00:02:56,794 --> 00:02:59,354 Speaker 3: a certain way, he's going to help you rise to 69 00:02:59,394 --> 00:03:01,354 Speaker 3: the top. It makes me think of that review of 70 00:03:01,354 --> 00:03:04,234 Speaker 3: Wuthering Heights that says it's a faithful adaptation of Jacob E. 71 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:05,594 Speaker 2: Lordi being six to five. 72 00:03:06,354 --> 00:03:08,714 Speaker 1: True, it's hard for guys at the moment, there is 73 00:03:08,754 --> 00:03:12,154 Speaker 1: so much discourse around like height and that being such 74 00:03:12,274 --> 00:03:15,353 Speaker 1: an attractive quality for men to have. 75 00:03:15,754 --> 00:03:18,074 Speaker 2: I feel like even these days, like when a man 76 00:03:18,194 --> 00:03:18,794 Speaker 2: is like an. 77 00:03:18,794 --> 00:03:20,913 Speaker 1: Average height, like people will be like, oh, but he's 78 00:03:20,914 --> 00:03:22,073 Speaker 1: not like six foot two. 79 00:03:22,074 --> 00:03:24,194 Speaker 2: I'm like, that is really tall for a man and 80 00:03:24,234 --> 00:03:24,794 Speaker 2: not normal. 81 00:03:24,874 --> 00:03:26,394 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the average type of a man in 82 00:03:26,394 --> 00:03:27,754 Speaker 3: Australia is like five foot nine. 83 00:03:27,834 --> 00:03:29,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is, I would say, and we've 84 00:03:29,754 --> 00:03:31,834 Speaker 2: just normalized this whole you know, six foot nup. 85 00:03:31,954 --> 00:03:34,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I will say, like, obviously there is a 86 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:37,074 Speaker 1: standard like that men are kind of put against, like 87 00:03:37,234 --> 00:03:40,234 Speaker 1: men and women in Hollywood and obviously in day to 88 00:03:40,314 --> 00:03:43,514 Speaker 1: day life. But I will say I don't think women 89 00:03:43,754 --> 00:03:46,594 Speaker 1: are going out of the way to look for Jacob Lordie. 90 00:03:47,674 --> 00:03:49,914 Speaker 1: Like I'm not expecting to run into my own Jacobal 91 00:03:49,954 --> 00:03:50,794 Speaker 1: Lordia anytime soon. 92 00:03:50,834 --> 00:03:52,354 Speaker 2: I have the same exact thought. 93 00:03:52,674 --> 00:03:55,874 Speaker 3: Men actually project these images and ideas they have from 94 00:03:55,914 --> 00:03:58,034 Speaker 3: what celebrity women look like onto what they're looking for 95 00:03:58,074 --> 00:03:58,674 Speaker 3: in a partner. 96 00:03:58,914 --> 00:04:00,954 Speaker 2: No woman is out there expecting to being Jacob LOADI. 97 00:04:00,954 --> 00:04:03,274 Speaker 2: They just want a nice, normal man, funny guy. 98 00:04:03,394 --> 00:04:04,994 Speaker 1: What happened to be Like Yeah, like if a guy 99 00:04:05,034 --> 00:04:06,434 Speaker 1: came up to me and he was really funny, I'll 100 00:04:06,434 --> 00:04:07,074 Speaker 1: be like, I'm down. 101 00:04:07,314 --> 00:04:10,154 Speaker 2: Maybe like plan a date. Yeah, maybe help me out. 102 00:04:10,514 --> 00:04:11,954 Speaker 2: You can be five to two in fine a date 103 00:04:11,994 --> 00:04:12,594 Speaker 2: and it's fine. 104 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:15,594 Speaker 1: Like I like the sentiment though, of you know, these 105 00:04:15,794 --> 00:04:20,154 Speaker 1: really super successful guys just coming together having a chat 106 00:04:20,194 --> 00:04:23,113 Speaker 1: and you know, being confident in who they are. 107 00:04:23,154 --> 00:04:26,273 Speaker 2: And I think that's nice and it's. 108 00:04:26,113 --> 00:04:28,314 Speaker 1: Like good to have those honest conversations for young men 109 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:30,593 Speaker 1: to like look up to them. But yeah, I don't 110 00:04:30,594 --> 00:04:32,953 Speaker 1: think I'm expecting to find a six foot five. 111 00:04:32,753 --> 00:04:34,034 Speaker 2: Guy just walking down the street. 112 00:04:34,193 --> 00:04:36,553 Speaker 3: No, And I imagine this convo would hit a little 113 00:04:36,594 --> 00:04:39,394 Speaker 3: hard for Benny Blanco because he has faced so much 114 00:04:39,474 --> 00:04:42,513 Speaker 3: backlash and it just continues going ever since he, you know, 115 00:04:42,594 --> 00:04:45,034 Speaker 3: got with Selena Gomez. People comment on his looks all 116 00:04:45,073 --> 00:04:47,674 Speaker 3: the time. They always I've seen him called that thing. 117 00:04:47,914 --> 00:04:50,193 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so me, I know. And he 118 00:04:50,354 --> 00:04:52,633 Speaker 2: is a short king, he's like five foot five, still 119 00:04:52,674 --> 00:04:55,113 Speaker 2: taller than me. Yeah, that's all you need. 120 00:04:55,154 --> 00:04:58,274 Speaker 3: And I will say something is different about the fact, 121 00:04:58,313 --> 00:05:00,393 Speaker 3: like I don't think people would feel comfortable, or at 122 00:05:00,474 --> 00:05:02,593 Speaker 3: least people in my circle sitting around and saying that 123 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:04,393 Speaker 3: about a woman and being like, oh, how did she 124 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:06,474 Speaker 3: get him? But I will say I think a lot 125 00:05:06,513 --> 00:05:09,193 Speaker 3: of us do just played in Benny blanco slander, even 126 00:05:09,193 --> 00:05:10,873 Speaker 3: though he seems like such a nice guy, because something 127 00:05:10,914 --> 00:05:12,914 Speaker 3: about it feels a little less icky because it is 128 00:05:12,953 --> 00:05:13,393 Speaker 3: a man. 129 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:15,474 Speaker 2: But that's not to say it should be done. Yeah, 130 00:05:15,513 --> 00:05:15,993 Speaker 2: that's true. 131 00:05:16,034 --> 00:05:17,713 Speaker 1: I think that is right, Like a lot of people 132 00:05:17,753 --> 00:05:20,113 Speaker 1: feel much more comfortable to be like, oh, yeah, he's punching, 133 00:05:20,633 --> 00:05:23,154 Speaker 1: rather than like the other way around. Or maybe we're 134 00:05:23,193 --> 00:05:25,073 Speaker 1: just not having conversations in locker rooms. 135 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:27,394 Speaker 5: Maybe I actually think that could be it. I think 136 00:05:27,633 --> 00:05:29,634 Speaker 5: I think it's more to do with our friend's circle. 137 00:05:29,834 --> 00:05:34,354 Speaker 5: We're like, weirdly all my women friends love women. Weird 138 00:05:34,474 --> 00:05:35,633 Speaker 5: that we've been really profound. 139 00:05:36,834 --> 00:05:39,193 Speaker 3: So anyway, if you're a man listening to this, which 140 00:05:39,274 --> 00:05:40,514 Speaker 3: I don't know how many of you there are, but 141 00:05:40,553 --> 00:05:43,513 Speaker 3: there might be some, maybe at Cheerin and Penny Blancove 142 00:05:43,594 --> 00:05:46,794 Speaker 3: made you feel like Hollywood's a little more accessible to you. 143 00:05:48,513 --> 00:05:50,473 Speaker 3: All Right, now we're getting into what we really have 144 00:05:50,553 --> 00:05:53,033 Speaker 3: to talk about this week, and that is what on 145 00:05:53,073 --> 00:05:55,433 Speaker 3: earth was going on in Married at First Sight Australia 146 00:05:55,474 --> 00:05:57,633 Speaker 3: because so much went down and we're going to unpack 147 00:05:57,674 --> 00:06:00,594 Speaker 3: it all big week So this weekend from Maths, we 148 00:06:00,633 --> 00:06:03,713 Speaker 3: saw our brides and grooms whisked away on a romantic weekend, 149 00:06:04,034 --> 00:06:06,354 Speaker 3: which should have been a romantic. 150 00:06:05,873 --> 00:06:09,993 Speaker 1: Getaway, but it quickly turned into a weekend from hell. 151 00:06:10,154 --> 00:06:14,433 Speaker 1: Think awkward conversations and a huge blow up between the 152 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:17,074 Speaker 1: women on the trip. There was a lot that went down, 153 00:06:17,474 --> 00:06:19,073 Speaker 1: but first we have to take a look back at 154 00:06:19,113 --> 00:06:22,833 Speaker 1: the commitment ceremony where we saw some big revelations between 155 00:06:23,073 --> 00:06:25,514 Speaker 1: our couples as well as a shock walkout. 156 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:28,833 Speaker 3: We really did so we saw Tyson and Steph leave 157 00:06:28,914 --> 00:06:29,674 Speaker 3: the experiment. 158 00:06:30,513 --> 00:06:32,873 Speaker 2: All I can say is thank god. I couldn't take 159 00:06:32,873 --> 00:06:33,314 Speaker 2: another week. 160 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:36,313 Speaker 1: No, no, I honestly just needed him off my screen. 161 00:06:36,354 --> 00:06:38,833 Speaker 2: I more shocked that Steph was like upset when he left. 162 00:06:38,914 --> 00:06:40,274 Speaker 2: I thought, bye bye, let's go. 163 00:06:40,633 --> 00:06:43,553 Speaker 3: Yeah, after we heard his pretty homophobic comments in a 164 00:06:43,633 --> 00:06:45,833 Speaker 3: room where there is a gay couple who are probably 165 00:06:45,834 --> 00:06:48,433 Speaker 3: the strongest couple in this experiment, to hear what he 166 00:06:48,513 --> 00:06:50,594 Speaker 3: said and then to hear him try and defend it. 167 00:06:50,873 --> 00:06:53,474 Speaker 3: Also the fact that you know, throughout this experiment he's 168 00:06:53,474 --> 00:06:55,833 Speaker 3: gone on about how he wants a submissive woman, and 169 00:06:55,873 --> 00:06:58,513 Speaker 3: then on the episode that happened this night. He goes, 170 00:06:58,553 --> 00:07:00,793 Speaker 3: I actually haven't brought up the submissive thing in ages, 171 00:07:00,993 --> 00:07:02,993 Speaker 3: and they just cut to actually said it last night 172 00:07:03,034 --> 00:07:07,433 Speaker 3: and dinner party. 173 00:07:05,674 --> 00:07:08,153 Speaker 2: All the time. No, he's an idiot. I think I 174 00:07:08,193 --> 00:07:09,273 Speaker 2: can comfortably say that. 175 00:07:09,594 --> 00:07:11,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really awful to like see the comments 176 00:07:11,594 --> 00:07:13,754 Speaker 1: that he was making. Obviously we have Sam and Chris 177 00:07:13,794 --> 00:07:16,194 Speaker 1: there and it's sad to see them kind of having 178 00:07:16,234 --> 00:07:17,154 Speaker 1: to stand. 179 00:07:16,914 --> 00:07:17,834 Speaker 2: Up for themselves. 180 00:07:18,114 --> 00:07:19,874 Speaker 1: And then, of course from tititle, we have the classic 181 00:07:19,914 --> 00:07:22,474 Speaker 1: you know, I don't hate gay people. I have gay friends. 182 00:07:22,874 --> 00:07:23,874 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything. 183 00:07:23,994 --> 00:07:26,154 Speaker 3: Well, it's the same way in which he is blatant 184 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:29,273 Speaker 3: disregard for melan Alessandra the female experts, even though he 185 00:07:29,314 --> 00:07:30,314 Speaker 3: is obsessed. 186 00:07:29,914 --> 00:07:31,474 Speaker 2: With John what he loves John. 187 00:07:31,554 --> 00:07:34,434 Speaker 3: He loves John. He's a complete symp for John. I 188 00:07:34,474 --> 00:07:37,314 Speaker 3: also hated his defense when Steph pointed out to him, 189 00:07:37,393 --> 00:07:40,034 Speaker 3: so you don't actually listen to the female experts. Firstly, 190 00:07:40,074 --> 00:07:42,114 Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, no, I really respect to him, and 191 00:07:42,114 --> 00:07:43,434 Speaker 3: I said they look beautiful tonight. 192 00:07:43,474 --> 00:07:45,793 Speaker 2: We're like, that's not the same thing. He's not well, 193 00:07:46,434 --> 00:07:47,394 Speaker 2: not well, and he. 194 00:07:47,314 --> 00:07:49,634 Speaker 3: Also goes, I'm very close to my mum and my 195 00:07:49,714 --> 00:07:51,713 Speaker 3: sister and I was like, that is giving the Scott 196 00:07:51,714 --> 00:07:52,914 Speaker 3: Morris and Jenny defense. 197 00:07:53,074 --> 00:07:54,954 Speaker 2: I feel sorry for his mom and sister. Where are they? 198 00:07:54,994 --> 00:07:56,634 Speaker 2: Can someone check on them and make sure they're okay? 199 00:07:56,834 --> 00:07:58,794 Speaker 3: It's probably yeah, I don't want to know what's happening 200 00:07:58,834 --> 00:08:00,874 Speaker 3: to them. So anyway, I think we're happy to see 201 00:08:00,874 --> 00:08:01,594 Speaker 3: the backs of them. 202 00:08:01,714 --> 00:08:04,874 Speaker 1: Yeah, goodbye, good riddance. Then we have Julia and Joel. 203 00:08:04,874 --> 00:08:08,354 Speaker 1: We saw Julia absolutely crash out week when she saw 204 00:08:08,393 --> 00:08:12,314 Speaker 1: that resurface video of Joel playing the drums on dildos. 205 00:08:11,994 --> 00:08:14,153 Speaker 3: Which he has actually teased in an interview that he 206 00:08:14,234 --> 00:08:17,114 Speaker 3: may bring a live performance of. So if that comes 207 00:08:17,114 --> 00:08:19,353 Speaker 3: to a city that we're going, we're going, we're going. 208 00:08:19,474 --> 00:08:20,634 Speaker 2: I need to see that in person. 209 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:22,473 Speaker 1: I actually rewatched it the other day and I thought, 210 00:08:22,674 --> 00:08:24,394 Speaker 1: you know what, he actually looks like. He's pretty good 211 00:08:24,393 --> 00:08:27,514 Speaker 1: at the drums. Anyway, justice for Joel fordildo drums. 212 00:08:28,234 --> 00:08:28,474 Speaker 2: Yes. 213 00:08:28,594 --> 00:08:31,114 Speaker 1: So it was interesting to see them sit down this week. 214 00:08:31,393 --> 00:08:34,514 Speaker 1: Obviously they had a really uncomfortable time with each other. 215 00:08:34,834 --> 00:08:38,314 Speaker 1: Juliette seems to despise this man, and then we see 216 00:08:38,394 --> 00:08:41,394 Speaker 1: Joel really express, you know, how hurt he was over 217 00:08:41,394 --> 00:08:43,674 Speaker 1: the experience and that he hasn't really had much respect 218 00:08:43,714 --> 00:08:47,274 Speaker 1: from Juliet, and we have the experts really schooling her 219 00:08:47,634 --> 00:08:49,914 Speaker 1: on her behavior, and I feel like it's the first 220 00:08:49,994 --> 00:08:52,954 Speaker 1: time she's really had to like stop and reflect at 221 00:08:53,234 --> 00:08:55,154 Speaker 1: how insane she came across at the dinner party. 222 00:08:55,314 --> 00:08:57,634 Speaker 2: I think myself and everyone else watching has had this 223 00:08:57,794 --> 00:08:58,354 Speaker 2: huge shift. 224 00:08:58,394 --> 00:09:00,474 Speaker 3: Now. In the last week, we were talking about how 225 00:09:00,474 --> 00:09:02,233 Speaker 3: he had such an dick for Joel. 226 00:09:02,034 --> 00:09:05,114 Speaker 2: And we're just like, I was defending him. Oh, okay, 227 00:09:05,234 --> 00:09:05,994 Speaker 2: you were alone about it. 228 00:09:06,794 --> 00:09:08,354 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were like, Oh, this 229 00:09:08,394 --> 00:09:10,234 Speaker 3: poor girl's been in matched with this weird guy who 230 00:09:10,234 --> 00:09:12,074 Speaker 3: has a teddy bear and he drums with dillodos, and 231 00:09:12,114 --> 00:09:13,914 Speaker 3: it's just like there's a lot going on. But I 232 00:09:13,954 --> 00:09:15,794 Speaker 3: think this week there's been a huge tip to being like, 233 00:09:15,834 --> 00:09:17,834 Speaker 3: you know what, Joel's just a quirky man who went 234 00:09:17,874 --> 00:09:20,274 Speaker 3: on a show, and she's being really really mean to him. 235 00:09:20,434 --> 00:09:22,554 Speaker 1: Yeah. I did feel like it was really mean spirited, 236 00:09:22,594 --> 00:09:25,074 Speaker 1: and I think that's what made it even more shocking 237 00:09:25,514 --> 00:09:27,954 Speaker 1: when it came to voting whether they would stay or leave. 238 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:30,914 Speaker 2: I know, why did she stay? I have no idea. 239 00:09:31,074 --> 00:09:33,954 Speaker 1: I think she assumed that Joel would leave. Sorry, I 240 00:09:33,994 --> 00:09:36,794 Speaker 1: think she assumed that Joel would stay and she wouldn't 241 00:09:36,794 --> 00:09:39,394 Speaker 1: come across that strange for wanting to stay as well 242 00:09:39,554 --> 00:09:42,754 Speaker 1: be in the experiment for longer. But I think knowing 243 00:09:42,794 --> 00:09:46,594 Speaker 1: that Joel has opted to leave shows that he actually 244 00:09:46,634 --> 00:09:49,394 Speaker 1: is being genuine, Like if he really was just vuying 245 00:09:49,514 --> 00:09:51,754 Speaker 1: for more stage time than he wouldn't. 246 00:09:51,394 --> 00:09:51,954 Speaker 2: Have put leave. 247 00:09:52,234 --> 00:09:55,314 Speaker 3: But I think if you express disgust for someone throughout 248 00:09:55,394 --> 00:09:58,154 Speaker 3: the week, she wouldn't even apologize to him properly, no, 249 00:09:58,754 --> 00:09:59,554 Speaker 3: give him an apology. 250 00:09:59,594 --> 00:10:01,354 Speaker 2: And at one point she said, I don't hate you 251 00:10:01,554 --> 00:10:02,194 Speaker 2: that much. 252 00:10:02,394 --> 00:10:04,434 Speaker 3: You can't wait, I don't hate you that much and 253 00:10:04,474 --> 00:10:07,114 Speaker 3: then decide to stay with someone. They also said to her, 254 00:10:07,354 --> 00:10:09,554 Speaker 3: you know, Joel has laid out his boundary is clear, 255 00:10:09,634 --> 00:10:12,034 Speaker 3: like well you follow them, and she goes yeah, and 256 00:10:12,074 --> 00:10:12,274 Speaker 3: then she. 257 00:10:12,314 --> 00:10:14,194 Speaker 2: Was like, what are they agains? My god, Like you 258 00:10:14,234 --> 00:10:15,434 Speaker 2: do not care about this man? 259 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:17,314 Speaker 1: No, I'm pretty sure one of his boundaries was like 260 00:10:17,314 --> 00:10:19,554 Speaker 1: he was asking for respect, And she's like, totally totally 261 00:10:19,914 --> 00:10:20,274 Speaker 1: too much. 262 00:10:20,634 --> 00:10:21,474 Speaker 2: Can you just say them again? 263 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:24,034 Speaker 1: I totally wasn't listening actually, just like blucked out when 264 00:10:24,034 --> 00:10:24,634 Speaker 1: you were speaking. 265 00:10:24,914 --> 00:10:27,114 Speaker 3: Yeah, so curious to see what's happening there. All seems 266 00:10:27,154 --> 00:10:27,994 Speaker 3: a little bit fake. 267 00:10:28,194 --> 00:10:28,434 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:10:28,474 --> 00:10:30,354 Speaker 3: I think the one other couple we have to touch 269 00:10:30,394 --> 00:10:33,394 Speaker 3: on in regards to the commitment ceremony is Stella and 270 00:10:33,434 --> 00:10:35,434 Speaker 3: Phil and the whole I love you gate. 271 00:10:35,874 --> 00:10:38,714 Speaker 2: So obviously Stella is very strongly of the opinion the 272 00:10:38,754 --> 00:10:40,794 Speaker 2: man has to say I love you. I think that's fair. 273 00:10:40,994 --> 00:10:41,834 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. 274 00:10:42,114 --> 00:10:45,074 Speaker 3: However, she really pushed this man into saying I love you, 275 00:10:45,114 --> 00:10:47,274 Speaker 3: And after the commitment ceremony, she was obviously making it 276 00:10:47,354 --> 00:10:48,634 Speaker 3: clear she wanted him to say it. 277 00:10:49,034 --> 00:10:51,474 Speaker 2: He then said it, and she barely said it back. 278 00:10:51,554 --> 00:10:54,234 Speaker 1: I'm trying to decode whether she actually said it, Like, 279 00:10:54,314 --> 00:10:54,994 Speaker 1: does that count? 280 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,994 Speaker 2: He asked her, how are you feeling? She said, she's 281 00:10:58,114 --> 00:11:01,634 Speaker 2: feeling like she's in love. No, no, he said I 282 00:11:01,754 --> 00:11:03,994 Speaker 2: love you, and then she was like, I know. 283 00:11:04,434 --> 00:11:06,714 Speaker 3: And then she was like it's really obvious. And then 284 00:11:06,754 --> 00:11:08,674 Speaker 3: he goes, so where are you at? She was like 285 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:10,874 Speaker 3: the same, and he was like, so, what's the same, 286 00:11:10,954 --> 00:11:12,394 Speaker 3: and she goes being in love? 287 00:11:12,434 --> 00:11:12,994 Speaker 2: Being in love? 288 00:11:13,154 --> 00:11:15,874 Speaker 1: That's I would have continued to drill it out of her. 289 00:11:15,914 --> 00:11:16,874 Speaker 1: I don't think that counts. 290 00:11:16,874 --> 00:11:18,794 Speaker 2: Does that count? I don't think that counts. 291 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:21,114 Speaker 3: And then in the later episodes we've seen her massively 292 00:11:21,474 --> 00:11:22,714 Speaker 3: retreat in that way, smashing. 293 00:11:22,914 --> 00:11:24,914 Speaker 2: I want to stop talking about the love thing. Yeah, 294 00:11:24,914 --> 00:11:26,274 Speaker 2: I find it's so interesting. 295 00:11:26,394 --> 00:11:29,474 Speaker 1: Okay, if a man told you that he loved you, 296 00:11:29,474 --> 00:11:30,034 Speaker 1: you would talk. 297 00:11:29,954 --> 00:11:32,594 Speaker 2: About it a lot. I mean you would bring it up, 298 00:11:32,794 --> 00:11:34,914 Speaker 2: you would bring it up. Or do you mean when 299 00:11:34,954 --> 00:11:39,394 Speaker 2: she speaks to the producers, I'm meaning you personally? Probably? 300 00:11:42,154 --> 00:11:48,634 Speaker 3: Anyway, do we move on to dare I say it 301 00:11:48,674 --> 00:11:51,914 Speaker 3: to the very very horrible couple's retreat. 302 00:11:51,954 --> 00:11:53,354 Speaker 2: I don't even think we can call it a retreat. 303 00:11:53,394 --> 00:11:57,314 Speaker 1: It's a retreat. There was stuck there and no. No, Yeah, 304 00:11:57,314 --> 00:12:00,154 Speaker 1: I think we can safely go with hell whole. 305 00:12:00,514 --> 00:12:03,594 Speaker 2: Can I talk about something very specifically from retreat? They 306 00:12:03,634 --> 00:12:05,074 Speaker 2: gave me the eg Okay, here we go. 307 00:12:05,234 --> 00:12:07,714 Speaker 3: When all the men ran up to the happened to 308 00:12:07,714 --> 00:12:09,714 Speaker 3: try and get the biggest room, and they were all like, yeah, 309 00:12:09,714 --> 00:12:11,154 Speaker 3: we're gonna get the best rooms for our women. 310 00:12:11,194 --> 00:12:12,994 Speaker 2: And I was like, you all look so And Steve 311 00:12:13,114 --> 00:12:15,874 Speaker 2: was like, I couldn't keep on because I'm too small, 312 00:12:16,034 --> 00:12:18,474 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, like I'm tiny. He's like, I'm 313 00:12:18,514 --> 00:12:20,474 Speaker 2: just a tiny little guy. I'm just trying to get 314 00:12:20,514 --> 00:12:21,314 Speaker 2: a big bed for us. 315 00:12:21,434 --> 00:12:23,754 Speaker 3: I'm just a tiny boy looking for a big room anyway, 316 00:12:23,834 --> 00:12:25,754 Speaker 3: So I felt the bile rising in my throat and 317 00:12:25,794 --> 00:12:29,354 Speaker 3: that whole thing. But obviously the main arc was Rachel 318 00:12:29,754 --> 00:12:32,514 Speaker 3: Steven Beck and the I don't even want to. 319 00:12:32,474 --> 00:12:35,594 Speaker 2: Say good but we're gonna have to say it. Finger banging, 320 00:12:35,674 --> 00:12:36,674 Speaker 2: finger bag finger banging. 321 00:12:36,714 --> 00:12:38,274 Speaker 1: And that is a word that I didn't think i'd 322 00:12:38,274 --> 00:12:40,114 Speaker 1: ever use, like outside of high school. 323 00:12:40,394 --> 00:12:42,074 Speaker 3: No, but I've said it a lot this past week 324 00:12:42,114 --> 00:12:44,514 Speaker 3: because it was the entire narrative for about three episode. 325 00:12:44,714 --> 00:12:48,234 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep it was. So we have Stephen and Rachel, 326 00:12:48,274 --> 00:12:49,474 Speaker 2: who obviously. 327 00:12:49,074 --> 00:12:52,794 Speaker 1: Had a very slow development of their intimacy and relationship 328 00:12:52,834 --> 00:12:54,994 Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. I was convinced last 329 00:12:55,034 --> 00:12:57,674 Speaker 1: week that no sparks were ever going to fly, but 330 00:12:57,794 --> 00:12:59,314 Speaker 1: this week there's a change of heart. 331 00:12:59,754 --> 00:13:02,953 Speaker 2: Stephen called Rachel sexy, and there was sorry the way 332 00:13:02,994 --> 00:13:06,074 Speaker 2: they my husband called me sexy. 333 00:13:06,194 --> 00:13:06,674 Speaker 3: Last night. 334 00:13:06,754 --> 00:13:08,674 Speaker 2: I was like Stephone was like, I want to do it. 335 00:13:08,794 --> 00:13:10,754 Speaker 2: No one wants to hear that. No one. 336 00:13:11,394 --> 00:13:14,514 Speaker 1: Oh, Everyone's seemed quite genuinely happy for them, and it's 337 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:15,234 Speaker 1: nice to see that. 338 00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:17,314 Speaker 2: They are progressing their relationship, I guess. 339 00:13:17,674 --> 00:13:20,953 Speaker 1: But after Rachel disclosed this to the group, we then 340 00:13:21,074 --> 00:13:23,194 Speaker 1: have Beck giving a toast on the first night the 341 00:13:23,234 --> 00:13:27,914 Speaker 1: getaway where she declares congratulations to the happy couple for 342 00:13:28,114 --> 00:13:31,554 Speaker 1: finger banging, which she continues to reiterate over. 343 00:13:31,674 --> 00:13:33,154 Speaker 2: And over and over and over again. 344 00:13:33,234 --> 00:13:35,914 Speaker 3: And it was so weird because basically, Rachel and Stephen 345 00:13:35,954 --> 00:13:38,674 Speaker 3: had said, basically to the group while they're all outside 346 00:13:38,714 --> 00:13:42,474 Speaker 3: having drinks, you know, we've progressed our intimacy, which personally 347 00:13:43,194 --> 00:13:46,034 Speaker 3: weird way to phrase, thatch, and then she from that 348 00:13:46,194 --> 00:13:47,594 Speaker 3: took finger banging. So I don't know if there was 349 00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:51,034 Speaker 3: a conversation they mud greatly because how would have mean anything. 350 00:13:51,114 --> 00:13:53,074 Speaker 2: It could have been like we made out, yeah and 351 00:13:53,114 --> 00:13:53,834 Speaker 2: I yeah. 352 00:13:53,954 --> 00:13:56,394 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure how they've assumed that. I think 353 00:13:56,394 --> 00:13:59,034 Speaker 1: they're definitely there was probably a conversation that we missed, 354 00:13:59,034 --> 00:14:02,154 Speaker 1: because I know because earlier when Rachel spoke to camera, 355 00:14:02,234 --> 00:14:03,994 Speaker 1: she did mention second base. 356 00:14:04,274 --> 00:14:05,714 Speaker 3: Yes, but they didn't say that in front of the 357 00:14:05,754 --> 00:14:08,594 Speaker 3: other contemptants, So anyway, there must have been a separate conversation. 358 00:14:08,834 --> 00:14:10,714 Speaker 1: But I just thought, don't want any more details on this, 359 00:14:10,794 --> 00:14:11,994 Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, I think of. 360 00:14:13,754 --> 00:14:17,634 Speaker 3: I can't hear anymore If I never hear those two 361 00:14:17,674 --> 00:14:20,514 Speaker 3: words again in my life, I'll be very happy. I 362 00:14:20,554 --> 00:14:24,874 Speaker 3: will say in the episode at the retreat, before we 363 00:14:24,914 --> 00:14:27,954 Speaker 3: got further contexts in more episodes to come, Beck was 364 00:14:27,994 --> 00:14:30,154 Speaker 3: just coming across as such a mean girl. 365 00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:32,594 Speaker 2: She just came across like that person you wouldn't want 366 00:14:32,594 --> 00:14:33,434 Speaker 2: to cross. 367 00:14:33,234 --> 00:14:35,474 Speaker 3: In high school because when they find out something about you, 368 00:14:35,514 --> 00:14:37,154 Speaker 3: they're going to make it so out of it and 369 00:14:37,234 --> 00:14:38,114 Speaker 3: use it against you. 370 00:14:38,194 --> 00:14:40,314 Speaker 1: I think she's quite abrasive, and I don't know if 371 00:14:40,354 --> 00:14:43,754 Speaker 1: it's more just how she comes across socially, Like she's loud. 372 00:14:43,914 --> 00:14:47,194 Speaker 1: She obviously likes attention. Sometimes that could be a good thing, 373 00:14:47,274 --> 00:14:49,194 Speaker 1: sometimes that's a bad thing. I feel like she doesn't 374 00:14:49,194 --> 00:14:52,954 Speaker 1: really have that boundary and she's very quick to kind 375 00:14:52,994 --> 00:14:56,234 Speaker 1: of jump on, like you said something vulnerable about somethe else. 376 00:14:56,274 --> 00:14:58,674 Speaker 1: But when it was her intimacy at the start of 377 00:14:58,714 --> 00:15:01,674 Speaker 1: the experiment, that was not something she liked having discussed. 378 00:15:01,674 --> 00:15:05,354 Speaker 1: And she was very self conscious of her relationship. 379 00:15:04,754 --> 00:15:06,914 Speaker 2: With Danny, you know they'd been intimate and how that 380 00:15:06,994 --> 00:15:08,154 Speaker 2: was spoken about in the group. 381 00:15:08,234 --> 00:15:11,194 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to see how she's very quick to 382 00:15:11,274 --> 00:15:12,434 Speaker 1: dish it out, but she. 383 00:15:12,354 --> 00:15:13,754 Speaker 2: Can't really be on the receiving end. 384 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:16,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a common issue with 385 00:15:16,234 --> 00:15:19,394 Speaker 3: these mass contestants as well, and something that I just 386 00:15:19,394 --> 00:15:22,874 Speaker 3: found crazy about this whole argument was that Rachel she 387 00:15:23,034 --> 00:15:25,114 Speaker 3: was so upset, which I understand at the start, but 388 00:15:25,194 --> 00:15:25,914 Speaker 3: it was like she. 389 00:15:25,994 --> 00:15:27,674 Speaker 2: Was mourning the death of someone. 390 00:15:27,714 --> 00:15:29,834 Speaker 3: Like there was a cut where her and Stephen were 391 00:15:29,914 --> 00:15:32,234 Speaker 3: leaning against the fence the next day and she's crying 392 00:15:32,234 --> 00:15:34,714 Speaker 3: in a hoodie and I'm like, it's okay, Like, I. 393 00:15:34,674 --> 00:15:37,234 Speaker 2: Mean, the whole group knows you've got fingered, Like I 394 00:15:37,274 --> 00:15:39,994 Speaker 2: think it's no now, babe. That no. 395 00:15:40,154 --> 00:15:42,354 Speaker 1: I do feel sorry for her. She obviously feels quite 396 00:15:42,394 --> 00:15:46,154 Speaker 1: embarrassed by. I also wonder what the conversation was between 397 00:15:46,234 --> 00:15:49,914 Speaker 1: Danny and Stephen, because Beck mentions, how you know you 398 00:15:49,954 --> 00:15:52,634 Speaker 1: should be thanking my husband that you got finger bang, 399 00:15:52,754 --> 00:15:57,234 Speaker 1: which is just an insane an insanely delusional sentenced to 400 00:15:57,274 --> 00:15:58,474 Speaker 1: come out with as a grown woman. 401 00:15:58,594 --> 00:16:00,594 Speaker 2: Maybe he just ran a little tutorial. 402 00:16:00,594 --> 00:16:00,954 Speaker 3: I don't know. 403 00:16:01,034 --> 00:16:01,674 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 404 00:16:01,714 --> 00:16:03,354 Speaker 1: There are the parties like, so mate, well you got 405 00:16:03,354 --> 00:16:05,474 Speaker 1: to do oh oh god again conversations. 406 00:16:05,474 --> 00:16:06,634 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm not privy too. 407 00:16:07,194 --> 00:16:07,914 Speaker 1: I just know that a. 408 00:16:08,034 --> 00:16:11,674 Speaker 3: Mass argument would be something where I just don't know 409 00:16:11,714 --> 00:16:13,474 Speaker 3: which side of the argument that I'm on, like nothing 410 00:16:13,674 --> 00:16:15,674 Speaker 3: helped me in such a state of confusion, because on 411 00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,034 Speaker 3: the one hand, I do think Beck was extremely mean, 412 00:16:18,034 --> 00:16:19,114 Speaker 3: and I can understand why. 413 00:16:19,034 --> 00:16:21,634 Speaker 2: Rachel was upset, But on the other hand, I don't understand. 414 00:16:21,674 --> 00:16:22,994 Speaker 2: You can't go to the group. 415 00:16:22,834 --> 00:16:24,634 Speaker 3: We did this sexual thing and then be upset when 416 00:16:24,634 --> 00:16:25,834 Speaker 3: people talk about it for ages. 417 00:16:25,914 --> 00:16:28,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels disproportionate, like she's so upset, But it 418 00:16:28,714 --> 00:16:32,074 Speaker 1: also reminds me at the start where her and Stephen 419 00:16:32,114 --> 00:16:35,274 Speaker 1: had that like conversation where he made a joke about 420 00:16:35,274 --> 00:16:37,034 Speaker 1: her yelling at football matches. 421 00:16:36,794 --> 00:16:38,754 Speaker 2: And she was really upset by it. 422 00:16:39,194 --> 00:16:41,954 Speaker 1: So she seems quite sensitive, and I don't know, maybe 423 00:16:42,274 --> 00:16:44,474 Speaker 1: maybe it's like a reflection of other things she's like 424 00:16:44,514 --> 00:16:47,474 Speaker 1: self conscious of, but it doesn't seem proportionate, Like by 425 00:16:47,514 --> 00:16:49,634 Speaker 1: the end, I was like, we've got to move on, girls, 426 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:50,714 Speaker 1: it's not that deep. 427 00:16:50,954 --> 00:16:54,354 Speaker 3: She has spoken about a lot of insecurities from previous relationships, 428 00:16:54,434 --> 00:16:56,594 Speaker 3: like I do remember in the first episode she spoke 429 00:16:56,594 --> 00:16:59,154 Speaker 3: about how she'd never had a partner call her beautiful 430 00:16:59,474 --> 00:17:02,234 Speaker 3: and that would obviously hit yourself confidence. So obviously all 431 00:17:02,234 --> 00:17:05,393 Speaker 3: these things happening with Steven, the intimacy him calling her 432 00:17:05,474 --> 00:17:07,873 Speaker 3: beautiful and sexy or whatever is new for her and 433 00:17:08,033 --> 00:17:11,034 Speaker 3: is very exciting, and I can understand why it's difficult 434 00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,313 Speaker 3: to see that then made fun of. 435 00:17:12,434 --> 00:17:14,314 Speaker 2: But this was ridiculously out of control. 436 00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:17,194 Speaker 1: You no, it was not proportionate, And I think, of 437 00:17:17,274 --> 00:17:21,194 Speaker 1: course we have Gea jumping into this situation. She says 438 00:17:21,234 --> 00:17:24,554 Speaker 1: that she hates drama, but she somehow finds herself at 439 00:17:24,554 --> 00:17:27,234 Speaker 1: the center of all of it. We suddenly have Gea 440 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:30,074 Speaker 1: and Julia rushing to Rachel's. 441 00:17:29,594 --> 00:17:31,874 Speaker 2: Aid and then giving a bit of. 442 00:17:31,794 --> 00:17:35,314 Speaker 1: An insight into how Beck was then speaking about Rachel. 443 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:37,154 Speaker 1: I feel like they kind of blew it up with this, 444 00:17:37,234 --> 00:17:40,554 Speaker 1: like really dramatic retelling of it. So then obviously Rachel's 445 00:17:40,594 --> 00:17:42,714 Speaker 1: now spiraling even more so about Beck. 446 00:17:42,994 --> 00:17:44,954 Speaker 2: This is the one thing I never understand with reality 447 00:17:44,954 --> 00:17:47,474 Speaker 2: TV contestants, which makes you can shine light on whether 448 00:17:47,474 --> 00:17:48,474 Speaker 2: you get told to do it. 449 00:17:48,754 --> 00:17:51,994 Speaker 3: But it's so quick, how someone will say something and 450 00:17:52,034 --> 00:17:54,154 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, let's go and immediately tell that person 451 00:17:54,194 --> 00:17:56,834 Speaker 3: so to producers ask you to go and share that 452 00:17:56,874 --> 00:17:58,874 Speaker 3: information or is there just not much else going on 453 00:17:58,874 --> 00:18:00,553 Speaker 3: on sets so they're immediately like, we have to go 454 00:18:00,594 --> 00:18:00,994 Speaker 3: and do that. 455 00:18:01,074 --> 00:18:01,914 Speaker 2: It's super interesting. 456 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:05,114 Speaker 1: I think it definitely depends on the production and what 457 00:18:05,274 --> 00:18:05,994 Speaker 1: show it is. 458 00:18:06,034 --> 00:18:06,114 Speaker 4: Like. 459 00:18:06,154 --> 00:18:08,874 Speaker 1: For example, Love Island Australia. I never had that experience. 460 00:18:08,994 --> 00:18:11,594 Speaker 1: Maybe another person will tell you something different. But when 461 00:18:11,594 --> 00:18:15,394 Speaker 1: I did Love Island Games, which is the US spin off, 462 00:18:15,554 --> 00:18:18,434 Speaker 1: it's a US production team. There were moments where they 463 00:18:18,434 --> 00:18:19,914 Speaker 1: would just come in and be like, do you want 464 00:18:19,914 --> 00:18:22,034 Speaker 1: to go confront so and so. 465 00:18:22,274 --> 00:18:23,834 Speaker 2: About that thing she said earlier? 466 00:18:23,954 --> 00:18:25,714 Speaker 1: So they would encourage you and they would be like, 467 00:18:25,754 --> 00:18:28,114 Speaker 1: I think it'd be a really great conversation, obviously prompting 468 00:18:28,154 --> 00:18:32,553 Speaker 1: you along the way, but obviously have autonomy. 469 00:18:31,994 --> 00:18:33,954 Speaker 2: Like can you say no? Actually, you're an adult, you 470 00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:34,754 Speaker 2: can say what you want. 471 00:18:34,794 --> 00:18:37,234 Speaker 1: But I think in those situations where you know you 472 00:18:37,794 --> 00:18:39,674 Speaker 1: want to make good TV, if you're on a show 473 00:18:39,754 --> 00:18:42,634 Speaker 1: like Maths and you you kind of you, Yeah, they're 474 00:18:42,674 --> 00:18:43,354 Speaker 1: probably bored. 475 00:18:43,674 --> 00:18:45,434 Speaker 3: Yeah I'm going to say I'm sitting here criticizing them, 476 00:18:45,474 --> 00:18:47,434 Speaker 3: I'd probably be like, well, what else are they doing? 477 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:50,714 Speaker 2: I'll be like, sure, I'm going to tell us something. 478 00:18:50,994 --> 00:18:53,154 Speaker 3: I mean, I think we've seen with Jeer and Juliet 479 00:18:53,154 --> 00:18:55,914 Speaker 3: where I don't really even understand how that alliance happened. 480 00:18:55,954 --> 00:18:58,314 Speaker 3: It suddenly seems like they're best friends, but it has 481 00:18:58,394 --> 00:19:00,954 Speaker 3: become this real arc of who is the mean girl? 482 00:19:00,994 --> 00:19:03,154 Speaker 3: Because it keeps going back and forth, I don't know 483 00:19:03,154 --> 00:19:03,954 Speaker 3: whose side I'm on. 484 00:19:04,114 --> 00:19:04,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it. 485 00:19:04,754 --> 00:19:07,034 Speaker 1: Is confusing as well, and I think it's something Base 486 00:19:07,154 --> 00:19:09,554 Speaker 1: seem to not be too sure of as well, because 487 00:19:09,594 --> 00:19:11,954 Speaker 1: sometimes you see Gia and Beck were friends for one 488 00:19:11,994 --> 00:19:14,514 Speaker 1: episode and then that quickly split up, and then later 489 00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,194 Speaker 1: in this episode we see Rachel then defending Beck even 490 00:19:17,234 --> 00:19:20,154 Speaker 1: though they spent the whole episode being at heads with 491 00:19:20,234 --> 00:19:22,954 Speaker 1: each other. So I think it is interesting the dynamic 492 00:19:23,394 --> 00:19:25,594 Speaker 1: between each of them, and we don't see a lot 493 00:19:25,594 --> 00:19:28,834 Speaker 1: of the friendships, so it may seem like Gia and 494 00:19:28,914 --> 00:19:32,754 Speaker 1: Juliet suddenly are friends, But because it's all about the relationships, 495 00:19:33,034 --> 00:19:35,394 Speaker 1: I think we miss some of those friendships building. 496 00:19:35,714 --> 00:19:37,434 Speaker 2: But Jia does always have. 497 00:19:37,474 --> 00:19:41,234 Speaker 1: Like her wingwoman with her, and they've always always got 498 00:19:41,234 --> 00:19:43,793 Speaker 1: a target. First it was Alyssa, then it was Stella, 499 00:19:43,914 --> 00:19:45,314 Speaker 1: then it was Beck, then it wasn't Beck. 500 00:19:45,354 --> 00:19:47,074 Speaker 2: Now we're back to Beck. Yeah. 501 00:19:47,154 --> 00:19:49,354 Speaker 3: I mean that's such a reality TV trope as well, 502 00:19:49,394 --> 00:19:51,594 Speaker 3: isn't it. There's always like the mean girl and her sidekick. 503 00:19:51,674 --> 00:19:54,234 Speaker 2: We have to have that. Do you think going into it. 504 00:19:54,154 --> 00:19:56,194 Speaker 3: These things are fairly pre planned or do you think 505 00:19:56,234 --> 00:19:58,594 Speaker 3: they take shape once you get there and they feel 506 00:19:58,634 --> 00:19:59,594 Speaker 3: out who's actually. 507 00:19:59,314 --> 00:20:00,434 Speaker 2: Going to be the dramatic one. 508 00:20:00,714 --> 00:20:02,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon you kind of have to feel it 509 00:20:02,554 --> 00:20:05,914 Speaker 1: out because most of the times everyone's first time doing 510 00:20:05,994 --> 00:20:09,194 Speaker 1: reality TV and you don't really know how someone will 511 00:20:09,234 --> 00:20:12,073 Speaker 1: be in context and like in front of a camera. 512 00:20:12,394 --> 00:20:14,674 Speaker 1: I once had a conversation with a producer and he 513 00:20:14,754 --> 00:20:18,154 Speaker 1: was saying, how they like set up the playground and 514 00:20:18,194 --> 00:20:20,714 Speaker 1: then they put you guys in, and you know, whatever 515 00:20:20,754 --> 00:20:23,114 Speaker 1: happens is kind of up to you. They can kind 516 00:20:23,114 --> 00:20:25,114 Speaker 1: of guide you and they can make an assumption on 517 00:20:25,154 --> 00:20:28,754 Speaker 1: where something might go, but how you actually choose to 518 00:20:28,954 --> 00:20:31,634 Speaker 1: react in the moment or like the path that you 519 00:20:31,674 --> 00:20:33,034 Speaker 1: go down, Like I think you. 520 00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:34,474 Speaker 2: Have a little bit of a same where you go 521 00:20:34,554 --> 00:20:34,793 Speaker 2: with it. 522 00:20:34,994 --> 00:20:36,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you just got to cast a lot 523 00:20:36,514 --> 00:20:39,194 Speaker 3: of chaotic characters on that playground and hope someone's going. 524 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,714 Speaker 2: To fix something. I think Jay is giving a red 525 00:20:41,714 --> 00:20:43,354 Speaker 2: hot crack. She really is. 526 00:20:43,394 --> 00:20:46,954 Speaker 3: I mean, they really turned on back in this episode. 527 00:20:46,994 --> 00:20:50,034 Speaker 3: We saw Juliet calling back a dumb sea word. I'm 528 00:20:50,034 --> 00:20:52,513 Speaker 3: going to see bomb, I know, and so much bleeping 529 00:20:52,554 --> 00:20:54,754 Speaker 3: went on. It actually happened quite a few times and 530 00:20:54,874 --> 00:20:57,874 Speaker 3: Danny and Joel, even her partner Joel was pretty upset 531 00:20:57,914 --> 00:20:59,474 Speaker 3: about it, and I think they were both like, that's 532 00:20:59,554 --> 00:21:01,754 Speaker 3: quite a reflection on you, that you're going out of your. 533 00:21:01,634 --> 00:21:03,474 Speaker 2: Way a good look at that, and Joel was like, 534 00:21:03,514 --> 00:21:04,834 Speaker 2: I know what it's like to be on your bad 535 00:21:04,874 --> 00:21:09,634 Speaker 2: side like that managed to terrified. Now, Oh he's so terrified. 536 00:21:09,954 --> 00:21:11,554 Speaker 2: I will say, I think Danny. 537 00:21:11,674 --> 00:21:14,954 Speaker 3: I've never personally been attracted to Danny throughout the whole season, 538 00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:16,793 Speaker 3: but he did have a bit of a hot man 539 00:21:16,874 --> 00:21:18,994 Speaker 3: redemption arc in how he went into the room and 540 00:21:19,034 --> 00:21:21,033 Speaker 3: she was really upset and yeas like, I won't have 541 00:21:21,074 --> 00:21:22,914 Speaker 3: someone talking to my wife like that. We're getting out 542 00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:25,354 Speaker 3: of here bag, We're getting a hotel. And I was like, okay, 543 00:21:25,554 --> 00:21:27,474 Speaker 3: props to you, Danny. You're taking care of your wife. 544 00:21:27,594 --> 00:21:29,354 Speaker 2: Someone said he looks like a Ferbie and I can't 545 00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:29,834 Speaker 2: unsay it. 546 00:21:29,874 --> 00:21:32,114 Speaker 1: Now, you know the Ferbies with the lashes, because he 547 00:21:32,154 --> 00:21:32,954 Speaker 1: has really big lushes. 548 00:21:32,954 --> 00:21:35,474 Speaker 2: I need to find fund new visual reference later. 549 00:21:35,874 --> 00:21:37,874 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do see where you're coming from, but I 550 00:21:37,914 --> 00:21:45,194 Speaker 3: think he's a Ferbie who protects his woman. Oh okay, 551 00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:47,154 Speaker 3: do we move to the dinner party and before we 552 00:21:47,194 --> 00:21:48,234 Speaker 3: continue with the drama. 553 00:21:48,274 --> 00:21:49,834 Speaker 2: I think we just have to give a cute little 554 00:21:49,834 --> 00:21:50,754 Speaker 2: shout out to Christian. 555 00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:53,434 Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like that's the best news to come 556 00:21:53,634 --> 00:21:56,794 Speaker 1: out of this week. I was so happy to hear 557 00:21:56,834 --> 00:21:59,114 Speaker 1: that things are going well between them. I was a 558 00:21:59,114 --> 00:22:02,114 Speaker 1: little unsure last week it just got like a little 559 00:22:02,114 --> 00:22:05,194 Speaker 1: bit of friend vibes between them. But they shared with 560 00:22:05,234 --> 00:22:07,874 Speaker 1: the group that they have progressed with how are they 561 00:22:07,914 --> 00:22:08,394 Speaker 1: phrasing it? 562 00:22:08,434 --> 00:22:09,754 Speaker 2: Their intimacy has progressed. 563 00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,434 Speaker 1: I have taken their intimacy to the next level, which 564 00:22:12,474 --> 00:22:14,274 Speaker 1: was more than more than finger banging. 565 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:16,793 Speaker 2: Well, Hickey show that he had a big kikky on 566 00:22:16,834 --> 00:22:19,314 Speaker 2: his neck, Yeah, big old tickey. Yeah. But I mean it's. 567 00:22:19,154 --> 00:22:21,354 Speaker 3: Good to know that not only is that side progressing, 568 00:22:21,434 --> 00:22:24,154 Speaker 3: but they seem like they're moving to We've. 569 00:22:23,954 --> 00:22:25,954 Speaker 2: Got the Hickey, We've got the future planning. It's all 570 00:22:25,954 --> 00:22:27,553 Speaker 2: coming together. Yeah. We love that. 571 00:22:27,634 --> 00:22:30,033 Speaker 1: I love to see them together. And Sam just seems 572 00:22:30,074 --> 00:22:33,434 Speaker 1: like a genuinely nice guy. When Beck was really upset, 573 00:22:33,874 --> 00:22:36,634 Speaker 1: he came to her over the weekend, which was really 574 00:22:36,714 --> 00:22:38,514 Speaker 1: nice to see him, like being that support. 575 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:41,994 Speaker 3: He reminds me of Colin Firth. Oh, Danny the Ferby 576 00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:43,074 Speaker 3: and Sam Colin Firth. 577 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:45,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually kind of does, like it could be 578 00:22:45,194 --> 00:22:47,634 Speaker 2: his son. Maybe it is start that rumor. 579 00:22:47,714 --> 00:22:50,794 Speaker 3: We started that here here first, but I mean other 580 00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:52,794 Speaker 3: than them, there isn't much positive to say, so maybe 581 00:22:52,794 --> 00:22:54,793 Speaker 3: we just get into the continuation of the drama. 582 00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:55,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 583 00:22:55,794 --> 00:22:59,314 Speaker 1: I think the drama kicks off pretty much straight away, 584 00:22:59,514 --> 00:23:01,874 Speaker 1: and Julia is at the center of it. When she 585 00:23:01,954 --> 00:23:04,914 Speaker 1: first gets the dinner party, she actually tries to go 586 00:23:05,074 --> 00:23:07,634 Speaker 1: to Beck and pull it one on one to offer 587 00:23:07,634 --> 00:23:10,514 Speaker 1: her an apology, which I think is the right way 588 00:23:10,554 --> 00:23:12,954 Speaker 1: to go about it, Like I think for an apology. 589 00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:14,474 Speaker 2: To be meaningful, I wanted to be one on one. 590 00:23:14,514 --> 00:23:17,234 Speaker 1: But then we have Beck demand to be made at 591 00:23:17,234 --> 00:23:19,034 Speaker 1: the dinner party for everyone to see. 592 00:23:18,834 --> 00:23:20,074 Speaker 2: Which I thought was an odd call. 593 00:23:20,354 --> 00:23:21,793 Speaker 3: It was an odd call, and there was a lot 594 00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:24,394 Speaker 3: of speculation about whether her and Danny would even come 595 00:23:24,394 --> 00:23:26,434 Speaker 3: to the dinner party before they got there. But I 596 00:23:26,514 --> 00:23:28,553 Speaker 3: was sitting there being like, is that a choice? I 597 00:23:28,554 --> 00:23:30,274 Speaker 3: feel like they always say it's such and such coming, 598 00:23:30,314 --> 00:23:31,914 Speaker 3: and they always come. I don't think they cannot go. 599 00:23:31,994 --> 00:23:33,034 Speaker 3: That's their whole job. 600 00:23:33,274 --> 00:23:35,793 Speaker 2: Unless you're Tyson, when you just walk out, maybe. 601 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:38,114 Speaker 1: If you quit the show, I think no, I think 602 00:23:38,154 --> 00:23:40,554 Speaker 1: Beck is coming to the dinner Beck and Danny are 603 00:23:40,594 --> 00:23:41,994 Speaker 1: coming to the dinner parties. 604 00:23:42,194 --> 00:23:44,714 Speaker 2: We're not missing out on that. Juliet was also wearing 605 00:23:44,754 --> 00:23:46,513 Speaker 2: that right riding hood. 606 00:23:46,714 --> 00:23:49,434 Speaker 3: Yeah, but riding hood what looks very I'm going to 607 00:23:49,474 --> 00:23:50,793 Speaker 3: start some drama tonight outfit. 608 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:54,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like, I'm ready to throw fists at people. Yeah, 609 00:23:54,594 --> 00:23:57,833 Speaker 1: but yeah, So obviously Juliet wanted to give her apology 610 00:23:58,154 --> 00:24:00,994 Speaker 1: to Beck, but we don't hear the apology until she's 611 00:24:01,034 --> 00:24:03,674 Speaker 1: at the dinner table, which is where we kind of 612 00:24:03,754 --> 00:24:07,954 Speaker 1: have the drama reawakened. And Beck is like demanding Juliette 613 00:24:07,994 --> 00:24:10,994 Speaker 1: to kind of like give some explanation as to why 614 00:24:11,074 --> 00:24:13,394 Speaker 1: she was attacked over the weekend, which is interesting. 615 00:24:13,594 --> 00:24:15,554 Speaker 2: Juliet can never really back herself up. 616 00:24:15,594 --> 00:24:17,874 Speaker 1: It was the same with Joel whenever she's asked to 617 00:24:17,914 --> 00:24:19,314 Speaker 1: give reasons as to why. 618 00:24:19,794 --> 00:24:22,674 Speaker 2: She can't actually validate why she feels a certain way. 619 00:24:22,834 --> 00:24:25,434 Speaker 2: I know, she just goes in circles. Yeah, very good, 620 00:24:25,514 --> 00:24:27,034 Speaker 2: it's interesting. Obviously. 621 00:24:27,354 --> 00:24:30,394 Speaker 1: She then throws to everything that happened with Rachel and 622 00:24:30,434 --> 00:24:33,314 Speaker 1: how she didn't like how she spoke about Rachel, which 623 00:24:33,434 --> 00:24:37,194 Speaker 1: interestingly Rachel doesn't like. Yeah, Rachel was like, stop talking 624 00:24:37,194 --> 00:24:39,474 Speaker 1: about me, which is what throws me off because I 625 00:24:39,674 --> 00:24:42,554 Speaker 1: just didn't expect Rachel to be the person standing up 626 00:24:42,594 --> 00:24:46,234 Speaker 1: for Beck. So I am wondering what's happening between the 627 00:24:46,274 --> 00:24:48,234 Speaker 1: friendship dynamic and what aren't we seeing? 628 00:24:48,794 --> 00:24:48,994 Speaker 3: Yeah? 629 00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:49,394 Speaker 2: I agree. 630 00:24:49,434 --> 00:24:50,674 Speaker 3: I was getting to a point where I needed one 631 00:24:50,714 --> 00:24:53,513 Speaker 3: of those crazy little boards that people get and they 632 00:24:53,554 --> 00:24:55,674 Speaker 3: have all the faces on them and you're drawing a 633 00:24:55,834 --> 00:24:56,754 Speaker 3: thread from one to the other. 634 00:24:56,834 --> 00:24:59,434 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's on whose side? Yeah, what's going on here? 635 00:24:59,514 --> 00:25:01,954 Speaker 1: So it was interesting to kind of see. 636 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:02,714 Speaker 2: How that plays out. 637 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:05,394 Speaker 3: There were also a lot of very public displays of affection. 638 00:25:05,514 --> 00:25:07,914 Speaker 3: It almost felt like they were competing. So Jia and 639 00:25:07,954 --> 00:25:11,034 Speaker 3: Scott like, Scott, it's a soul mate. She's like, you've 640 00:25:11,074 --> 00:25:13,394 Speaker 3: never told me that before. How convenient it told me 641 00:25:13,474 --> 00:25:16,114 Speaker 3: this room full of people. Also, if I was him, 642 00:25:16,114 --> 00:25:17,273 Speaker 3: I'd be like, can you just roll with it? 643 00:25:17,394 --> 00:25:19,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you need to shut up? Said it before? 644 00:25:19,594 --> 00:25:21,554 Speaker 2: Shut up? She's like, you've never said that ever. 645 00:25:21,794 --> 00:25:24,594 Speaker 3: We always say we're soulmates. And then we have Beck 646 00:25:24,634 --> 00:25:26,834 Speaker 3: and Danny going so over the top with it as well. 647 00:25:26,874 --> 00:25:28,154 Speaker 2: It felt very competitive. 648 00:25:28,314 --> 00:25:31,793 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting to see how they are feeling against 649 00:25:31,874 --> 00:25:32,234 Speaker 1: each other. 650 00:25:32,394 --> 00:25:34,073 Speaker 2: I don't feel like anyone is like bonded. 651 00:25:34,114 --> 00:25:35,994 Speaker 1: It's nice to say, like Stella and phill of like 652 00:25:36,074 --> 00:25:37,514 Speaker 1: still kind of like stay out of things. 653 00:25:37,554 --> 00:25:40,594 Speaker 2: Also David and Alyssa. Sorry, I know nothing about David. 654 00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:43,313 Speaker 3: I know nothing about David except in the teaser for 655 00:25:43,354 --> 00:25:46,034 Speaker 3: next week, it looks like one of the texts that 656 00:25:46,114 --> 00:25:48,554 Speaker 3: Beck's and Jeer might be about him, because they were 657 00:25:48,714 --> 00:25:50,674 Speaker 3: talking about these texts that she said, and she's like, 658 00:25:50,714 --> 00:25:53,114 Speaker 3: I could expose her and how awful she is and 659 00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:54,874 Speaker 3: she says bad things about everyone, and they cut. 660 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,154 Speaker 2: Why are they texting so much if you hate each 661 00:25:57,154 --> 00:25:59,234 Speaker 2: other so much? And where are the screenshots? 662 00:25:59,274 --> 00:26:01,914 Speaker 1: Because it seems like Beck and Beck and Geer actually 663 00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:04,474 Speaker 1: have a closer relationship than we think, because this happened 664 00:26:04,514 --> 00:26:07,793 Speaker 1: already before with Alyssa. Apparently Beck was Gea all the 665 00:26:07,794 --> 00:26:10,274 Speaker 1: inside Goss and Alyssa. So, why are you guys talking 666 00:26:10,314 --> 00:26:12,354 Speaker 1: so much you don't even like each other? What is happening? 667 00:26:12,714 --> 00:26:12,994 Speaker 2: I know? 668 00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:15,034 Speaker 3: So it looks like we're in for some really spicy 669 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:18,354 Speaker 3: revelations because Gea is now very riled up against Beck. 670 00:26:18,634 --> 00:26:20,354 Speaker 2: She's saying she has all these messages that. 671 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,874 Speaker 3: Can apparently expose her to the group, the kind of 672 00:26:22,874 --> 00:26:23,914 Speaker 3: person she really is. 673 00:26:24,034 --> 00:26:26,273 Speaker 2: To be honest, I kind of believe her. Yeah, I 674 00:26:26,314 --> 00:26:28,674 Speaker 2: do too, and I'm salted that they're making us wait 675 00:26:28,714 --> 00:26:30,434 Speaker 2: till next week. I know, but I mean that. I 676 00:26:30,434 --> 00:26:31,474 Speaker 2: guess that's the name of the gut. 677 00:26:31,754 --> 00:26:34,074 Speaker 3: I will say I kept thinking this throughout this week, 678 00:26:34,074 --> 00:26:37,634 Speaker 3: but this season feels extra extra produced to me. Really, 679 00:26:37,794 --> 00:26:40,154 Speaker 3: I like, my background is in TV producing, and I 680 00:26:40,234 --> 00:26:43,114 Speaker 3: just feel like with the interviews, it feels so suddenly 681 00:26:43,194 --> 00:26:43,714 Speaker 3: clipped off. 682 00:26:44,074 --> 00:26:47,834 Speaker 1: The clipping in this episode, particularly the way I like 683 00:26:48,354 --> 00:26:51,674 Speaker 1: rationalize it though, was that the clip that followed would 684 00:26:51,754 --> 00:26:54,834 Speaker 1: back up what the Frankenstein voice would. 685 00:26:54,674 --> 00:26:56,074 Speaker 2: Say absolutely half the time. 686 00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:57,954 Speaker 3: It felt like about half a sentence, and then they 687 00:26:57,954 --> 00:26:59,714 Speaker 3: just suddenly cut away and I'm like, okay, we're looking 688 00:26:59,754 --> 00:27:02,394 Speaker 3: for someone's shoulder, Like I don't know what's. 689 00:27:02,194 --> 00:27:04,434 Speaker 2: Going on there. Yeah, that's super interesting. So yeah, it 690 00:27:04,434 --> 00:27:06,354 Speaker 2: does just seem very very produce. 691 00:27:06,354 --> 00:27:09,034 Speaker 3: So I'm almost wondering if not that much is actually 692 00:27:09,114 --> 00:27:11,874 Speaker 3: happening because they have to manufacture it so much. For example, 693 00:27:11,994 --> 00:27:13,954 Speaker 3: I suppose they paid for that place that they stayed 694 00:27:13,954 --> 00:27:15,554 Speaker 3: at the retreat and they're like, we drive them all out, 695 00:27:15,594 --> 00:27:16,474 Speaker 3: then nothing's happened. 696 00:27:16,474 --> 00:27:18,754 Speaker 1: The best we got was you guys talking about fingerbagging 697 00:27:18,794 --> 00:27:19,754 Speaker 1: for three episodes. 698 00:27:20,394 --> 00:27:21,914 Speaker 2: We spent a lot over it. 699 00:27:21,994 --> 00:27:25,714 Speaker 1: Guys, move on the most expensive fingerbag that's ever happened. 700 00:27:27,034 --> 00:27:28,434 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to The Spill. 701 00:27:28,554 --> 00:27:30,474 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this episode, the best way you can 702 00:27:30,514 --> 00:27:32,954 Speaker 1: support us is to give a five star rating wherever 703 00:27:32,994 --> 00:27:34,754 Speaker 1: you listen, it goes a long way and helping us 704 00:27:34,794 --> 00:27:37,474 Speaker 1: continue to give you the best content. 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