1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,624 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,504 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,344 Speaker 3: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 6 00:00:28,384 --> 00:00:29,104 Speaker 3: culture fix. 7 00:00:29,384 --> 00:00:31,744 Speaker 1: I'm em Vernam and I'm Laura Brodnick. 8 00:00:31,944 --> 00:00:35,304 Speaker 3: And on the show today, we are talking about SNL's 9 00:00:35,424 --> 00:00:38,984 Speaker 3: fiftieth concert. It's been all over our social feeds. Ryan 10 00:00:38,984 --> 00:00:41,904 Speaker 3: Reynolds and Blake Lively also made a bit of a comeback, 11 00:00:42,024 --> 00:00:45,544 Speaker 3: but people are furious at their appearance. We are also 12 00:00:45,624 --> 00:00:49,184 Speaker 3: talking about White Loadus season three. The first episode drops 13 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:50,904 Speaker 3: and there are some things I feel like you might 14 00:00:50,944 --> 00:00:53,304 Speaker 3: have missed, plus everything that we know so far. 15 00:00:53,704 --> 00:00:56,624 Speaker 1: But first but first, so this kind of got drowned 16 00:00:56,624 --> 00:00:59,544 Speaker 1: out over the weekend by just how the SNL fifty 17 00:00:59,584 --> 00:01:02,744 Speaker 1: anniversary episode just took over everything. But it is a 18 00:01:02,824 --> 00:01:06,024 Speaker 1: very big deal because the Bafts, which is I mean, 19 00:01:06,064 --> 00:01:08,544 Speaker 1: they hate people saying it's the British version of the Oscars, 20 00:01:08,544 --> 00:01:10,784 Speaker 1: but just kind it kind of is just so people 21 00:01:10,864 --> 00:01:13,784 Speaker 1: understand it, the Bafters took place. It's one of the 22 00:01:13,864 --> 00:01:17,344 Speaker 1: last really big awards shows before the Oscars. We obviously 23 00:01:17,384 --> 00:01:20,144 Speaker 1: still had the screen actors Guild coming up. But it 24 00:01:20,264 --> 00:01:22,264 Speaker 1: does give a sense of how the Oscars are going 25 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:24,464 Speaker 1: to go. And sometimes if people give a really big, 26 00:01:24,704 --> 00:01:29,104 Speaker 1: incredible acceptance speech or something goes viral, it can influence 27 00:01:29,264 --> 00:01:31,864 Speaker 1: a little bit of Like Oscars voting has only just 28 00:01:32,144 --> 00:01:37,984 Speaker 1: closed closes today. Whoa, I know you're listening anyone who 29 00:01:37,984 --> 00:01:40,264 Speaker 1: hasn't send their ballot and do it now? So yeah, 30 00:01:40,304 --> 00:01:42,744 Speaker 1: So the Bafter Awards took place. A few little cute 31 00:01:42,744 --> 00:01:45,584 Speaker 1: moments from the Red carpet. One interesting one was at 32 00:01:45,664 --> 00:01:48,344 Speaker 1: Meghan Fayhi, the actress from The Bold Type who was 33 00:01:48,384 --> 00:01:50,904 Speaker 1: on the last season of The White Lotus season two, 34 00:01:51,384 --> 00:01:54,264 Speaker 1: walked the red carpet with Leo Widdell, who was also 35 00:01:54,264 --> 00:01:57,064 Speaker 1: on season two of The White Loaders but more recently 36 00:01:57,344 --> 00:01:59,584 Speaker 1: is hanging out with us. Yeah, he was hanging out 37 00:01:59,584 --> 00:02:01,784 Speaker 1: with us at the Sydney premier and running into dark 38 00:02:01,784 --> 00:02:03,904 Speaker 1: corners past us all the time at the premiere party. 39 00:02:04,064 --> 00:02:06,544 Speaker 1: Who plays the young hot guy in the new Bridget 40 00:02:06,584 --> 00:02:08,864 Speaker 1: Jones movie. So they fell in love on the set 41 00:02:08,864 --> 00:02:12,024 Speaker 1: of White Loatus season two and were very cute walking 42 00:02:12,024 --> 00:02:15,264 Speaker 1: and posing on the red carpet together. Timothy shallow May 43 00:02:15,424 --> 00:02:19,544 Speaker 1: and Kylie Jenner continued their reign as like the hottest couple, 44 00:02:20,104 --> 00:02:20,784 Speaker 1: the couple. 45 00:02:20,504 --> 00:02:22,144 Speaker 3: Who's all the secret of couple. 46 00:02:22,424 --> 00:02:24,824 Speaker 1: Well, they've been not posing together on red carpets, but 47 00:02:24,904 --> 00:02:27,544 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner has been at every big award show. She 48 00:02:27,584 --> 00:02:29,864 Speaker 1: always posts photos of her dress that she takes like 49 00:02:29,904 --> 00:02:32,384 Speaker 1: separately in her home a hotel room, and then there's 50 00:02:32,384 --> 00:02:33,824 Speaker 1: photos of them in the event. 51 00:02:33,584 --> 00:02:36,704 Speaker 3: And it exactly thing she's got going on right now. 52 00:02:37,064 --> 00:02:38,944 Speaker 1: Well, she's certainly not doing much on the kardash. She 53 00:02:39,144 --> 00:02:41,344 Speaker 1: let me tell you that I wrote whole article about it. 54 00:02:41,584 --> 00:02:44,304 Speaker 1: I wrote her resignation letter for us that in the 55 00:02:44,344 --> 00:02:47,584 Speaker 1: show not it's so good, very intense time. But so 56 00:02:47,624 --> 00:02:49,704 Speaker 1: she was sitting next to Timothy's challow May in the 57 00:02:49,744 --> 00:02:52,384 Speaker 1: audience for the Bafters, and the camera kept cutting to 58 00:02:52,424 --> 00:02:54,384 Speaker 1: them the same way did the Golden Globes, the same 59 00:02:54,384 --> 00:02:55,424 Speaker 1: way it'll do with the Oscars. 60 00:02:55,504 --> 00:02:55,944 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 61 00:02:55,984 --> 00:02:58,504 Speaker 1: I'm actually quite interested to see her Oscars dress, because 62 00:02:58,504 --> 00:03:00,584 Speaker 1: she's had some good looks this red carpet season. 63 00:03:00,864 --> 00:03:03,304 Speaker 3: But I love how like the only way we'll see 64 00:03:03,344 --> 00:03:04,864 Speaker 3: it is like in a sit down position. 65 00:03:05,144 --> 00:03:07,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then she'll post a grid that's taken the 66 00:03:07,104 --> 00:03:08,264 Speaker 1: privacy of her own home. 67 00:03:08,464 --> 00:03:10,024 Speaker 3: She needs to get there before the Oscars. 68 00:03:10,144 --> 00:03:12,504 Speaker 1: So David Tennant was hosting the Bafters, and it was 69 00:03:12,544 --> 00:03:15,704 Speaker 1: so funny because when he came over to Timothy Schallamey 70 00:03:15,784 --> 00:03:17,904 Speaker 1: and Kylie Jenner, he didn't make a joke about them, 71 00:03:18,144 --> 00:03:21,544 Speaker 1: but he made a little reference to Timothy's movie A 72 00:03:21,584 --> 00:03:24,664 Speaker 1: Complete Unknown and said that the Bob Dylan biopic is 73 00:03:24,944 --> 00:03:28,504 Speaker 1: MM and MIA for middle aged dads. And look, he's 74 00:03:28,504 --> 00:03:28,904 Speaker 1: not wrong. 75 00:03:29,144 --> 00:03:31,584 Speaker 3: He's not wrong. You know what. My dad still hasn't 76 00:03:31,584 --> 00:03:32,464 Speaker 3: seen it anything, but. 77 00:03:32,384 --> 00:03:35,984 Speaker 1: He really wants to talk about it every day. I'm like, Dad, 78 00:03:35,984 --> 00:03:37,304 Speaker 1: a ticket to that movie. 79 00:03:37,584 --> 00:03:37,784 Speaker 2: Yeah. 80 00:03:37,984 --> 00:03:39,864 Speaker 3: I know you don't give me tickets, but if you 81 00:03:39,864 --> 00:03:40,864 Speaker 3: can get my dad just that. 82 00:03:40,984 --> 00:03:42,824 Speaker 1: When we left the premiere, you were like, I hated 83 00:03:42,824 --> 00:03:44,464 Speaker 1: that movie, but my dad's gonna love it. That was 84 00:03:44,584 --> 00:03:47,864 Speaker 1: weeks ago. You take your dad to the movies? What 85 00:03:47,904 --> 00:03:48,864 Speaker 1: are you doing with your life? 86 00:03:48,904 --> 00:03:51,544 Speaker 3: I should Sorry, MoMA co workers, I'm now bringing my 87 00:03:51,624 --> 00:03:52,144 Speaker 3: dad as. 88 00:03:53,544 --> 00:03:55,624 Speaker 1: So. One of the big winners of the night, which 89 00:03:55,664 --> 00:03:57,864 Speaker 1: has not had a good run this award season but 90 00:03:57,864 --> 00:03:59,624 Speaker 1: has maybe come out as like a dark horse for 91 00:03:59,664 --> 00:04:03,304 Speaker 1: the Oscars is Conclave, which won Best Film. At the Bafters. 92 00:04:03,584 --> 00:04:06,264 Speaker 1: It tied for the most Awards with The Brutalist and 93 00:04:06,344 --> 00:04:09,144 Speaker 1: it won Best Editing and Best Adapted Screenplay, and then 94 00:04:09,184 --> 00:04:13,064 Speaker 1: The Brutalless won four awards, including Best Actor for Adrian Brody. 95 00:04:13,344 --> 00:04:16,224 Speaker 1: So Adrian Brody is pretty much a lock to win 96 00:04:16,424 --> 00:04:19,824 Speaker 1: Best Actor at the Oscars. It's kind of a toss 97 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:23,024 Speaker 1: up now between The Brutalist, and you'd be happy to 98 00:04:23,024 --> 00:04:27,104 Speaker 1: notice Anora has emerged as a front runner for the Oscars. Well, 99 00:04:27,104 --> 00:04:30,184 Speaker 1: Amelia Perez felt like a lock for a really long time, 100 00:04:30,424 --> 00:04:33,464 Speaker 1: and then everything with the lead Actress, which we've covered 101 00:04:33,464 --> 00:04:35,864 Speaker 1: all of the drama around that, and the backlash has 102 00:04:35,904 --> 00:04:38,424 Speaker 1: really thrown the future of that movie with a big 103 00:04:38,504 --> 00:04:40,944 Speaker 1: question mark over it now. So I think Zoe Saldana 104 00:04:40,984 --> 00:04:43,144 Speaker 1: will still win Best Supporting Actress, but I don't think 105 00:04:43,144 --> 00:04:45,784 Speaker 1: Amelia Perez will win the big award like it was 106 00:04:45,784 --> 00:04:49,384 Speaker 1: predicted to, and Anora has really come from behind to 107 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:51,904 Speaker 1: be the big winner. So, Mikey Madison, you'd be very 108 00:04:51,904 --> 00:04:54,184 Speaker 1: happy to know beat Demi Moore for the first time 109 00:04:54,664 --> 00:04:57,944 Speaker 1: at the Bafters to win Best Actress. And I guess 110 00:04:58,024 --> 00:05:00,424 Speaker 1: the SAgs will be really the deciding factor of who's 111 00:05:00,424 --> 00:05:02,864 Speaker 1: the front runner for the Oscars. So very exciting there 112 00:05:03,224 --> 00:05:05,984 Speaker 1: Anora also won Best Picture at the Critics of Choice Awards, 113 00:05:05,984 --> 00:05:09,464 Speaker 1: so you know it's coming. She's getting behind. That's kind 114 00:05:09,464 --> 00:05:11,264 Speaker 1: of our pick, although she you'd say Conclave is a 115 00:05:11,264 --> 00:05:11,864 Speaker 1: great movie. 116 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:14,664 Speaker 3: Conclave is great, and every person who's watched it says 117 00:05:14,664 --> 00:05:15,144 Speaker 3: it's great. 118 00:05:15,224 --> 00:05:17,464 Speaker 1: The interesting It sounds so boring on paper, but when 119 00:05:17,504 --> 00:05:18,544 Speaker 1: you go and watch it, like, this. 120 00:05:18,464 --> 00:05:20,064 Speaker 3: Is a great movie, and I'm like, I've watched so 121 00:05:20,144 --> 00:05:23,064 Speaker 3: many movies about popes and the church, but I'm like this, No, 122 00:05:23,144 --> 00:05:25,904 Speaker 3: this is actually a really good movie. The interesting thing 123 00:05:25,984 --> 00:05:29,064 Speaker 3: to me, though, is with Amelia Perez, is that I 124 00:05:29,104 --> 00:05:31,224 Speaker 3: haven't personally seen it, so I don't want to put 125 00:05:31,224 --> 00:05:33,304 Speaker 3: an opinion on that. But everyone who I know who 126 00:05:33,304 --> 00:05:36,904 Speaker 3: I've seen it has hated it. Oh really really just 127 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:40,664 Speaker 3: liked Whereas and without me influencing them, everyone who I 128 00:05:40,664 --> 00:05:42,384 Speaker 3: know who's seen Anora has loved it. So I'm just 129 00:05:43,184 --> 00:05:44,624 Speaker 3: try should be the ones leading. 130 00:05:44,904 --> 00:05:46,864 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to tell people how great Anura is, 131 00:05:46,864 --> 00:05:48,824 Speaker 1: even though we did on this podcast favorite Movie to 132 00:05:48,864 --> 00:05:50,784 Speaker 1: get their hopes up too high. But I have yet 133 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 1: to meet a person who doesn't love that movie. The 134 00:05:52,824 --> 00:05:55,184 Speaker 1: other big award for the night was Kieran Colkin one 135 00:05:55,264 --> 00:05:58,784 Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor. He's a royal kine. No, he wasn't there. 136 00:05:58,864 --> 00:06:02,344 Speaker 1: So Jesse Eisenberg, who wrote the movie and directed it, 137 00:06:02,584 --> 00:06:04,744 Speaker 1: except to the ward on his behalf and said that 138 00:06:04,944 --> 00:06:07,984 Speaker 1: Kieran was very devoted to supporting the movie, but unfortunately 139 00:06:08,024 --> 00:06:10,504 Speaker 1: he was back in America with a family member who 140 00:06:10,544 --> 00:06:12,504 Speaker 1: was very sick, which is sad but. 141 00:06:12,984 --> 00:06:16,784 Speaker 3: Great, beautiful space. Yeah, Karen, thanks again. 142 00:06:17,584 --> 00:06:19,504 Speaker 2: I know I just won an award, but this is 143 00:06:19,544 --> 00:06:22,704 Speaker 2: also like the fifth award I've accepted on Kieren's behalf, 144 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:26,304 Speaker 2: so it confirms what I always thought is that we 145 00:06:26,384 --> 00:06:28,464 Speaker 2: have a similar life, but his is about twenty seven 146 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:33,184 Speaker 2: percent better than mine. Kieran would love to be here. 147 00:06:33,504 --> 00:06:36,464 Speaker 2: We spoke this morning. He's in New York with the 148 00:06:36,504 --> 00:06:40,904 Speaker 2: family member who's quite sick, and he is so devoted 149 00:06:41,624 --> 00:06:44,904 Speaker 2: as a family dad that he tried to drop out 150 00:06:44,944 --> 00:06:47,464 Speaker 2: of my movie two weeks before we started shooting because 151 00:06:47,464 --> 00:06:51,544 Speaker 2: he didn't want to leave his kids. It's real, it's beautiful, 152 00:06:51,584 --> 00:06:55,544 Speaker 2: and it's admirable his devotion to his family. He is 153 00:06:55,624 --> 00:06:58,584 Speaker 2: one of these lovely people who's brilliantly talented, but who, 154 00:06:58,664 --> 00:07:02,784 Speaker 2: for some random luck of the cosmos, has his priorities 155 00:07:02,784 --> 00:07:06,424 Speaker 2: in order. So I'm I'm so honored to accept this 156 00:07:06,464 --> 00:07:06,744 Speaker 2: for him. 157 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:08,344 Speaker 3: Thanks, Like I thoughtive you really nice. 158 00:07:08,384 --> 00:07:10,824 Speaker 1: The whole this award season is because Kieren didn't want 159 00:07:10,824 --> 00:07:12,744 Speaker 1: to do the movie. He wasn't getting on the plane 160 00:07:12,784 --> 00:07:15,304 Speaker 1: to the movie the last second, and then Emma Stone, 161 00:07:15,344 --> 00:07:16,984 Speaker 1: who's a producer on the movie and who used to 162 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:19,704 Speaker 1: date Karen Colkan, called him and basically said, get your 163 00:07:19,704 --> 00:07:22,544 Speaker 1: ass on that plane, and so we did and win 164 00:07:22,744 --> 00:07:23,304 Speaker 1: one of the girls. 165 00:07:23,624 --> 00:07:32,744 Speaker 3: She knows what she needs. So the first episode of 166 00:07:32,984 --> 00:07:37,224 Speaker 3: The White Loader season three has dropped, and I don't 167 00:07:37,264 --> 00:07:41,344 Speaker 3: want to speak too soon because I've only seen one episode, 168 00:07:41,504 --> 00:07:42,784 Speaker 3: but I have a feeling this is going to be 169 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:44,064 Speaker 3: my favorite season so far. 170 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:47,024 Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I went into it like I don't know. 171 00:07:47,144 --> 00:07:48,984 Speaker 1: At first, it was kind of a little bit of 172 00:07:48,984 --> 00:07:52,384 Speaker 1: a letdown for me. I think I liked the first season, 173 00:07:52,504 --> 00:07:54,224 Speaker 1: like I thought it was fine. I watched it twice, 174 00:07:54,264 --> 00:07:56,304 Speaker 1: which is my normal map for a TV show. The 175 00:07:56,344 --> 00:07:59,224 Speaker 1: second season I love. I've watched it so many times. 176 00:07:59,264 --> 00:08:02,304 Speaker 1: I just think that's like such a perfect piece of television. 177 00:08:02,584 --> 00:08:05,304 Speaker 1: Coming into this. When they were first introducing the characters, 178 00:08:05,344 --> 00:08:07,864 Speaker 1: they felt a little bland for me. And a little trophy. 179 00:08:08,144 --> 00:08:10,904 Speaker 1: But as the first episode went along, it became very apparent, 180 00:08:10,984 --> 00:08:13,384 Speaker 1: like how sharp the writing was it always is, how 181 00:08:13,384 --> 00:08:18,784 Speaker 1: incredible the performances are, and there was enough layered mysteries 182 00:08:18,784 --> 00:08:20,704 Speaker 1: and like character development to keep me interested. So I 183 00:08:20,744 --> 00:08:22,784 Speaker 1: actually think maybe this might be a good mix of characters. 184 00:08:22,864 --> 00:08:26,744 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone in this season feels very weird, Like there's 185 00:08:26,944 --> 00:08:29,464 Speaker 3: usually there's one person I'm able to relate to when 186 00:08:29,464 --> 00:08:32,024 Speaker 3: it's usually like a staff member. Yeah, but I feel 187 00:08:32,144 --> 00:08:34,464 Speaker 3: like every person in this season so far, just from 188 00:08:34,504 --> 00:08:37,664 Speaker 3: episode one, is a bit weird. So the White Lotus 189 00:08:37,744 --> 00:08:40,744 Speaker 3: resort in this season is located on an island in Thailand, 190 00:08:40,784 --> 00:08:43,304 Speaker 3: and it feels this result feels more I want to say, 191 00:08:43,304 --> 00:08:47,784 Speaker 3: like luxury wellness, like a lot of like natural wellness therapies. 192 00:08:47,824 --> 00:08:50,184 Speaker 3: It reminded me a lot of Nine Perfect Strangers. 193 00:08:50,504 --> 00:08:52,944 Speaker 1: Yes, I think very much that vibe. Mike White, who's 194 00:08:52,944 --> 00:08:54,504 Speaker 1: the creative of the show, has said they're going for 195 00:08:54,584 --> 00:08:58,144 Speaker 1: that more wellness spirituality, getting in touch with your like 196 00:08:58,224 --> 00:09:00,784 Speaker 1: inner self, as the themes of the show and how 197 00:09:00,904 --> 00:09:04,064 Speaker 1: spirituality can turn toxic for some people. It's kind of 198 00:09:04,064 --> 00:09:07,584 Speaker 1: the underlying issue in saying that, though the opening scene 199 00:09:07,704 --> 00:09:11,824 Speaker 1: was very intense, So I think that's what got mean 200 00:09:11,904 --> 00:09:14,464 Speaker 1: because it was we know what you're expecting from this show, 201 00:09:14,504 --> 00:09:16,064 Speaker 1: like you know you're going to see a dead body, 202 00:09:15,944 --> 00:09:19,664 Speaker 1: but mostly you're here in this first episode to see 203 00:09:19,704 --> 00:09:23,024 Speaker 1: these crazy rich people and have this indulgent TV experience 204 00:09:23,384 --> 00:09:26,184 Speaker 1: and then to have an active shooter in the resort 205 00:09:26,584 --> 00:09:28,944 Speaker 1: and to be watching the people cowering. It was like 206 00:09:29,024 --> 00:09:31,184 Speaker 1: quite traumatic to watch, and it kind of like it 207 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:33,384 Speaker 1: kind of set the pace for a different White Lotus. 208 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:35,944 Speaker 3: I thought, I think it's gonna be so chaotic because 209 00:09:35,984 --> 00:09:38,784 Speaker 3: like what you said, the other two seasons, it's very 210 00:09:38,944 --> 00:09:41,584 Speaker 3: like you just like quietly see like a dead body 211 00:09:41,864 --> 00:09:43,904 Speaker 3: or like someone zipping up like a dead body or 212 00:09:43,904 --> 00:09:46,464 Speaker 3: a dead body floating in the ocean, And it kind 213 00:09:46,504 --> 00:09:49,184 Speaker 3: of sets it up that like it's gonna be like 214 00:09:49,224 --> 00:09:51,224 Speaker 3: one of those you never know what's gonna happen. It's 215 00:09:51,224 --> 00:09:54,144 Speaker 3: gonna be like a slow situation. But the way they 216 00:09:54,264 --> 00:09:58,024 Speaker 3: just had an act shooter, it was just so for. 217 00:09:57,984 --> 00:09:59,704 Speaker 1: A drawn out amount of time. It wasn't just one 218 00:09:59,784 --> 00:10:02,064 Speaker 1: gunshot rang out and then you saw a body, like 219 00:10:02,104 --> 00:10:05,224 Speaker 1: you saw characters running from the bullets, cowering like whoever 220 00:10:05,264 --> 00:10:08,824 Speaker 1: it was it was continuously shooting, and also it sounds 221 00:10:08,864 --> 00:10:11,264 Speaker 1: like they were target shooting people, like they weren't just 222 00:10:11,264 --> 00:10:14,824 Speaker 1: shooting randomly. They were actually stalking people through the resort 223 00:10:14,904 --> 00:10:17,344 Speaker 1: because you can hear running and then you hear a shot, 224 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:18,864 Speaker 1: and then you hear running and you hear a shot. 225 00:10:18,904 --> 00:10:21,664 Speaker 1: So they're chasing someone on multiple people, which is like 226 00:10:21,704 --> 00:10:23,784 Speaker 1: a horrific way to open the show. But it really 227 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:25,744 Speaker 1: did set the scene, I guess, especially with the whole 228 00:10:25,784 --> 00:10:27,664 Speaker 1: like it's like a nature result. 229 00:10:28,024 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 3: So it was just like the jactaposition. It's so interesting. 230 00:10:30,784 --> 00:10:32,624 Speaker 3: Right off the bat, though, I was pissed off. Oh 231 00:10:32,624 --> 00:10:33,784 Speaker 3: why the title sequence? 232 00:10:34,144 --> 00:10:36,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people, so many people. 233 00:10:36,744 --> 00:10:38,184 Speaker 3: I was going to sing it, but then I was like, 234 00:10:38,224 --> 00:10:39,064 Speaker 3: I think that's cultural. 235 00:10:39,184 --> 00:10:41,184 Speaker 1: Let's give let's give the people a hit of the 236 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:42,144 Speaker 1: White Loatus theme song. 237 00:10:48,744 --> 00:10:51,584 Speaker 3: So the new one, I repeated the first one seems 238 00:10:51,584 --> 00:10:54,344 Speaker 3: like a very demure, watered down version. 239 00:10:54,584 --> 00:10:56,904 Speaker 1: So they haven't come out and said why they've done it, 240 00:10:56,944 --> 00:10:58,664 Speaker 1: but the compould have been the first thing they said. 241 00:10:58,704 --> 00:11:00,544 Speaker 1: They should have done a press We're waiting on a 242 00:11:00,544 --> 00:11:03,224 Speaker 1: formal statement the White Lotus team, just so you guys know. 243 00:11:03,544 --> 00:11:06,104 Speaker 1: So the composer of the theme songs obviously changes it 244 00:11:06,184 --> 00:11:08,784 Speaker 1: up for each season, and it's meant to be in 245 00:11:08,824 --> 00:11:11,424 Speaker 1: line with the place they're shooting, and so last year 246 00:11:11,584 --> 00:11:13,624 Speaker 1: had like slightly more kind of Italian things to go 247 00:11:13,664 --> 00:11:16,264 Speaker 1: with the Sicily setting, and this year to composer did 248 00:11:16,264 --> 00:11:18,784 Speaker 1: a bunch of interviews before the season, never saying they 249 00:11:18,784 --> 00:11:20,984 Speaker 1: were going to change it that much, but saying because 250 00:11:21,104 --> 00:11:23,304 Speaker 1: said in Thailand, they wanted to bring in some Eastern 251 00:11:23,304 --> 00:11:26,304 Speaker 1: philosophy and something a bit more spiritual, and they did 252 00:11:26,304 --> 00:11:28,784 Speaker 1: say they were going to pair it right back, but 253 00:11:28,824 --> 00:11:30,984 Speaker 1: I don't think people were prepared for how pared back 254 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:31,664 Speaker 1: it was going to be. 255 00:11:32,144 --> 00:11:34,904 Speaker 3: I'm like parallel forward. I wouldn't mind. I want to 256 00:11:34,904 --> 00:11:41,904 Speaker 3: talk about though, Yeah, the incest siblings that stressed me out, 257 00:11:42,064 --> 00:11:43,544 Speaker 3: I know, But like the first. 258 00:11:43,344 --> 00:11:44,704 Speaker 1: I guess the Game of Thrones. 259 00:11:44,464 --> 00:11:46,584 Speaker 3: Isn't very you have very Game of Thrones, the first 260 00:11:46,704 --> 00:11:48,784 Speaker 3: three and they also look like they're from Emme Thrones, 261 00:11:48,904 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 3: the first three groups of people that were introduced to 262 00:11:51,624 --> 00:11:53,864 Speaker 3: which is like I guess one of the most iconic 263 00:11:53,904 --> 00:11:56,864 Speaker 3: scenes in the whole series, where like the staff is waiting, 264 00:11:57,264 --> 00:11:59,344 Speaker 3: they end up coming on some type of boat and 265 00:11:59,424 --> 00:12:01,544 Speaker 3: then they get introduced to the Stuff. So you have 266 00:12:01,624 --> 00:12:04,464 Speaker 3: the Ratler family or what like I like to call 267 00:12:04,584 --> 00:12:07,384 Speaker 3: the Incest family. Yeah, we don't really know much about them, 268 00:12:07,424 --> 00:12:10,984 Speaker 3: but it's played by Parker Posey and Jaysree as the 269 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:12,544 Speaker 3: mum and dad. Oh you love both him. 270 00:12:12,584 --> 00:12:14,664 Speaker 1: I love Jason Isaac's Tree, but I think Parker Posey 271 00:12:14,744 --> 00:12:17,024 Speaker 1: has just been in so many of my favorite movie. 272 00:12:16,904 --> 00:12:19,544 Speaker 3: He is so funny in it. She character reminds me 273 00:12:19,624 --> 00:12:21,264 Speaker 3: of like Moira from Shit's Craig. 274 00:12:21,384 --> 00:12:24,144 Speaker 1: She is one of the best comedic actresses of all time. 275 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,104 Speaker 1: You've probably seen her in stuff, but she's often a 276 00:12:26,144 --> 00:12:28,544 Speaker 1: supporting character, but you should go back through her IMDb 277 00:12:28,624 --> 00:12:30,704 Speaker 1: and just watch every movie she's in because she's like 278 00:12:30,744 --> 00:12:32,144 Speaker 1: connic on all of them. So I love that she's 279 00:12:32,184 --> 00:12:35,184 Speaker 1: getting this moment. And I know that Jason Isaacs has 280 00:12:35,184 --> 00:12:36,824 Speaker 1: done more than Harry Potter, but that's all he's no 281 00:12:36,864 --> 00:12:37,104 Speaker 1: one for. 282 00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:39,024 Speaker 3: He did a good job and he's great. And Harry 283 00:12:39,024 --> 00:12:42,744 Speaker 3: Potter as Draco's dad. They have three grown up ish kids, 284 00:12:42,984 --> 00:12:48,224 Speaker 3: the eldest being played by Patrick Schwarzenegger, who is so delicious. 285 00:12:48,664 --> 00:12:51,024 Speaker 3: I love him. We've talked about him before when he 286 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:52,064 Speaker 3: was in The Boys spinoff. 287 00:12:52,184 --> 00:12:54,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, his personality puts me off. Obviously that's what he's 288 00:12:54,864 --> 00:12:56,224 Speaker 1: supposed to do in the show. But he's a good 289 00:12:56,264 --> 00:12:56,704 Speaker 1: looking man. 290 00:12:56,784 --> 00:12:59,384 Speaker 3: He's like top ten Nepo baby, Yeah, he's like so 291 00:12:59,464 --> 00:13:02,944 Speaker 3: his dad's obviously Arnold, and his mom is like a Kennedy. 292 00:13:03,264 --> 00:13:05,144 Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm like this guy and his brother in 293 00:13:05,224 --> 00:13:07,264 Speaker 1: Laura is Chris pat Sorry about that, Patrick, that must 294 00:13:07,304 --> 00:13:07,704 Speaker 1: be rough. 295 00:13:08,304 --> 00:13:11,504 Speaker 3: I've also done my research, so I'm sad to report 296 00:13:11,504 --> 00:13:12,664 Speaker 3: that he is in a relationship. 297 00:13:12,864 --> 00:13:14,904 Speaker 1: Oh, because that was the one thing standing between you 298 00:13:14,984 --> 00:13:16,024 Speaker 1: and Patrick's Swartzbaker. 299 00:13:16,184 --> 00:13:18,304 Speaker 3: I'm not even joking when I say that's the first 300 00:13:18,424 --> 00:13:21,424 Speaker 3: thing that comes up when you google. Of course everyone's 301 00:13:21,984 --> 00:13:22,864 Speaker 3: in a relationship. 302 00:13:22,864 --> 00:13:24,864 Speaker 1: He is, and he's very sensitive, just so you know, 303 00:13:25,024 --> 00:13:27,464 Speaker 1: because when he got the role in The White Lotus, 304 00:13:27,864 --> 00:13:29,864 Speaker 1: he told his family. He told his dad and he 305 00:13:29,864 --> 00:13:31,784 Speaker 1: started crying because he wanted his dad to be proud 306 00:13:31,824 --> 00:13:37,264 Speaker 1: of him. So simple for men, it's like the bar 307 00:13:37,464 --> 00:13:39,704 Speaker 1: so low. We're like, you, little cutie. 308 00:13:39,824 --> 00:13:42,264 Speaker 3: We hear like a hidden phone record of Arnold talking 309 00:13:42,264 --> 00:13:44,024 Speaker 3: to Mike, please give my son this, ye. 310 00:13:44,104 --> 00:13:44,904 Speaker 1: Please give my dough. 311 00:13:45,544 --> 00:13:48,344 Speaker 3: We then have which is my favorite group? Yeah, the 312 00:13:48,344 --> 00:13:53,424 Speaker 3: three besties. So excited they're also like iconic actors. So 313 00:13:53,624 --> 00:13:56,104 Speaker 3: Michelle Mnigan who plays Jacqueline, who's meant to be like 314 00:13:56,144 --> 00:13:59,784 Speaker 3: this big celebrity TV SA, she has brought her two 315 00:13:59,944 --> 00:14:03,304 Speaker 3: childhood best friends with her to the resort, Leslie Bibb 316 00:14:03,384 --> 00:14:06,704 Speaker 3: who plays Kate and Kerrie Koon who plays Laurie. I 317 00:14:06,744 --> 00:14:10,144 Speaker 3: think their dynamic is going to be so interesting, you see, 318 00:14:10,424 --> 00:14:14,224 Speaker 3: I'm right off the first episode that Laurie is played 319 00:14:14,224 --> 00:14:16,384 Speaker 3: by Krakoon kind of feels like a bit of an 320 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:20,304 Speaker 3: outsider in the CoA. I'm just gonna say it, groups 321 00:14:20,304 --> 00:14:23,024 Speaker 3: of three and never work. Groups of three never work, 322 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:24,784 Speaker 3: can't have odd numbers. 323 00:14:25,024 --> 00:14:27,304 Speaker 1: And that really comes across when she goes back to 324 00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:29,344 Speaker 1: her room and sees them talking. But also when you 325 00:14:29,424 --> 00:14:32,504 Speaker 1: reunite with like long term friends and they have that 326 00:14:32,544 --> 00:14:35,224 Speaker 1: moment where everyone is trying to praise each other's life 327 00:14:35,264 --> 00:14:37,464 Speaker 1: while also getting praised for their own life. And of 328 00:14:37,464 --> 00:14:41,824 Speaker 1: course they only praise the very stereotypical things likes in 329 00:14:41,864 --> 00:14:44,144 Speaker 1: a relationship. And so when they go to carry Coon's 330 00:14:44,224 --> 00:14:47,024 Speaker 1: character like, oh, you're doing so well, I'm just finance 331 00:14:47,944 --> 00:14:50,064 Speaker 1: in the business world. Good for you. But you can 332 00:14:50,104 --> 00:14:50,984 Speaker 1: tell that they don't. 333 00:14:50,824 --> 00:14:53,664 Speaker 3: Meet like you're beautiful. You're beautiful. No, you're beautiful. No, 334 00:14:53,704 --> 00:14:55,384 Speaker 3: you're beautiful. And they see her and they're like, and 335 00:14:55,424 --> 00:14:58,424 Speaker 3: you and you, Oh my god, it works in finance 336 00:14:58,464 --> 00:14:59,544 Speaker 3: and it's doing so well, and. 337 00:14:59,544 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 1: Your daughter is just wow, look at her. Wow. It's 338 00:15:02,984 --> 00:15:05,824 Speaker 1: so that's every uncomfortable lunch with friends I've been to, 339 00:15:05,944 --> 00:15:07,504 Speaker 1: when you're at that moment where you don't want to 340 00:15:07,544 --> 00:15:10,704 Speaker 1: be friends with them anymore, and it's like an obligation lunch. Actually, 341 00:15:10,784 --> 00:15:13,224 Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I relating to Laurie so badly 342 00:15:13,304 --> 00:15:15,424 Speaker 1: right now? Like I don't have any current friends that 343 00:15:15,584 --> 00:15:19,264 Speaker 1: terrible movie, But no, I've beaten that position before. 344 00:15:19,384 --> 00:15:21,184 Speaker 3: When she's just in her bedroom and she's just like, 345 00:15:21,464 --> 00:15:24,344 Speaker 3: scream cry, I was like, I just felt that in 346 00:15:24,384 --> 00:15:24,704 Speaker 3: my god. 347 00:15:24,744 --> 00:15:26,744 Speaker 1: Oh I'm so excited for that. So Cary Koon is 348 00:15:26,744 --> 00:15:29,784 Speaker 1: an incredible actress. If anyone hasn't seen The Leftovers, which 349 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:34,264 Speaker 1: is just a phenomenal piece of television, and she's incredible 350 00:15:34,264 --> 00:15:36,784 Speaker 1: in it. Like I'd highly recommend watching that. And again, 351 00:15:36,824 --> 00:15:39,304 Speaker 1: she's another actress who's had a lot of critically acclaimed roles, 352 00:15:39,304 --> 00:15:41,864 Speaker 1: but I think this will again bolster her to mainstream 353 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:44,344 Speaker 1: and Michelle Montagan and she's had a lot of different roles, 354 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:45,064 Speaker 1: but she kind of. 355 00:15:44,984 --> 00:15:47,384 Speaker 3: Made the guys girlfriends. 356 00:15:47,624 --> 00:15:50,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, or she's like the romcom leading lady who's like 357 00:15:50,464 --> 00:15:52,824 Speaker 1: the bland best friend who you kind of just notice. 358 00:15:52,864 --> 00:15:55,704 Speaker 1: So to see her really playing like the sexy leading 359 00:15:55,784 --> 00:15:56,304 Speaker 1: lady and. 360 00:15:56,584 --> 00:15:58,184 Speaker 3: You just know she pulls it up so well. 361 00:15:58,264 --> 00:16:00,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, her playing the movie star and like, I've never 362 00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:02,344 Speaker 1: seen her with a tan before because normally she doesn't 363 00:16:02,344 --> 00:16:05,144 Speaker 1: do that. True, so again, but her character would do that, 364 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:07,064 Speaker 1: so with the hair and stuff, it was amazing. 365 00:16:07,464 --> 00:16:11,704 Speaker 3: And then we have the odd couple Rick Hatchett, who's 366 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:15,624 Speaker 3: played by Walton Goggins, who is just so funny, and 367 00:16:15,744 --> 00:16:19,384 Speaker 3: his younger girlfriend, Chelsea, who's played by Amy Lee Wood. 368 00:16:19,744 --> 00:16:22,464 Speaker 3: I find their dynamics so funny because every time I 369 00:16:22,464 --> 00:16:24,944 Speaker 3: saw him, all I could think was of his character 370 00:16:25,024 --> 00:16:27,984 Speaker 3: from Fallout, and every time I saw her was sex education. 371 00:16:28,184 --> 00:16:31,224 Speaker 3: Like they're playing the exact same characters who are teting 372 00:16:31,264 --> 00:16:32,824 Speaker 3: and I'm like, in my head, I'm imagining that this 373 00:16:32,984 --> 00:16:35,984 Speaker 3: is like an alternate universe. Yeah, they're together. They are 374 00:16:36,024 --> 00:16:37,744 Speaker 3: so funny. I have a fear he's a bit shady, 375 00:16:38,384 --> 00:16:40,344 Speaker 3: Like we find out that there's a reason why he 376 00:16:40,424 --> 00:16:42,424 Speaker 3: was at the resort. Oh, it was not to relax. 377 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:44,464 Speaker 1: But I think they're setting him up to be the 378 00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:46,824 Speaker 1: villain and the killer. But as we know that it 379 00:16:46,944 --> 00:16:49,424 Speaker 1: won't be him. Won't be him because it's they're telling 380 00:16:49,544 --> 00:16:51,144 Speaker 1: us too early. They played, they can't do what they 381 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:52,504 Speaker 1: wouldn't play their hand that early. 382 00:16:53,104 --> 00:16:57,224 Speaker 3: That's true, okay. And then finally my favorite group, the staff. 383 00:16:57,584 --> 00:16:59,744 Speaker 1: So we do say your favorite group like three times. 384 00:16:59,744 --> 00:17:00,384 Speaker 1: It's okay, but. 385 00:17:00,624 --> 00:17:05,344 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, no, my order go staff, Ratliff family. Not 386 00:17:05,384 --> 00:17:07,944 Speaker 3: because I'm weird, but because I'm fine them interesting. So 387 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:09,784 Speaker 3: I don't want to see incest on my screen, but 388 00:17:09,984 --> 00:17:12,584 Speaker 3: we're going if it happens, then you know what it happens. 389 00:17:13,144 --> 00:17:18,464 Speaker 3: Then the three best friends and then Walter and Amy, 390 00:17:18,984 --> 00:17:22,104 Speaker 3: Welton and Amy, so the staff. We have talked about 391 00:17:22,144 --> 00:17:25,864 Speaker 3: the massive anticipation for Lisa from Blackping to have her 392 00:17:25,984 --> 00:17:29,024 Speaker 3: big debut on The White Loatus. So she plays Muk 393 00:17:29,064 --> 00:17:32,664 Speaker 3: who is a hotel worker, and Natasha Rothwell is back 394 00:17:32,704 --> 00:17:35,184 Speaker 3: as Belinda Lindsay. I saw a fun fact which was 395 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,744 Speaker 3: the funniest thing in my life where it said Natasha 396 00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:40,024 Speaker 3: Rothwell is the first person to be asked back to 397 00:17:40,064 --> 00:17:43,904 Speaker 3: White Lotus who isn't dead. Yeah, that's true. It is 398 00:17:43,904 --> 00:17:46,704 Speaker 3: a fact. So she's back. She's still working in the 399 00:17:46,704 --> 00:17:49,344 Speaker 3: White Loatus in Hawaii, but she's on this program where 400 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:53,024 Speaker 3: she's learning I guess the spa of Thailand, so she 401 00:17:53,024 --> 00:17:55,664 Speaker 3: can like take back those learnings. Basically just the paid 402 00:17:55,744 --> 00:17:58,344 Speaker 3: for holiday as well like a work exchange. I think 403 00:17:58,424 --> 00:18:00,184 Speaker 3: she's going to be so much fun. I love her, 404 00:18:00,224 --> 00:18:02,544 Speaker 3: which she's just like having dinner by herself and she's 405 00:18:02,544 --> 00:18:04,984 Speaker 3: in this massive hotel room for weeks on end. She's 406 00:18:05,024 --> 00:18:07,864 Speaker 3: living her best life. Plus her son's going to be 407 00:18:07,984 --> 00:18:08,744 Speaker 3: visiting more. 408 00:18:08,784 --> 00:18:10,544 Speaker 1: But I don't want that to happen because that's the 409 00:18:10,544 --> 00:18:11,384 Speaker 1: shooting happens. 410 00:18:11,744 --> 00:18:12,384 Speaker 3: She can't die. 411 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,464 Speaker 1: Well, someone's going to die, Emily. 412 00:18:14,224 --> 00:18:18,544 Speaker 3: But also it can't be her because like it can't well, 413 00:18:19,304 --> 00:18:21,544 Speaker 3: I don't want it to be her. Don't make it her. Well, 414 00:18:21,584 --> 00:18:22,944 Speaker 3: I mean, who do you want it to be? 415 00:18:23,264 --> 00:18:24,624 Speaker 1: Who do I want to die? 416 00:18:24,864 --> 00:18:26,864 Speaker 3: Just from straight away episode one first. 417 00:18:26,624 --> 00:18:31,264 Speaker 1: I mean obviously Saxon Patrick Swartzega. I'm happy for him 418 00:18:31,264 --> 00:18:33,544 Speaker 1: to dine. Oh no, he'll want to talk about how 419 00:18:33,544 --> 00:18:36,704 Speaker 1: horny is that. It's literally he's a real creeper. Also, 420 00:18:36,984 --> 00:18:41,824 Speaker 1: Greg Tanya's ex husband being the surprise after having his 421 00:18:41,864 --> 00:18:42,744 Speaker 1: wife killed. 422 00:18:42,504 --> 00:18:44,664 Speaker 3: So he obviously took all her money and now just 423 00:18:44,704 --> 00:18:45,784 Speaker 3: living the best life. 424 00:18:45,544 --> 00:18:48,944 Speaker 1: In entail exactly. So that's going to happen, but it'll 425 00:18:48,944 --> 00:18:51,464 Speaker 1: be who we don't expect, so it's too early to pick, Okay. 426 00:18:53,704 --> 00:18:57,464 Speaker 1: So on yesterday's show, we briefly covered the SNL fiftieth 427 00:18:57,464 --> 00:19:01,784 Speaker 1: anniversary episode and constant was a very star stuted event. 428 00:19:01,904 --> 00:19:03,984 Speaker 1: But now as we're seeing like more footage and as 429 00:19:03,984 --> 00:19:06,784 Speaker 1: the full episode goes to air, we're getting a bit 430 00:19:06,824 --> 00:19:08,784 Speaker 1: more of an idea of the celebrity cameos that we're 431 00:19:08,824 --> 00:19:11,224 Speaker 1: in the show. So there was a moment that Tina 432 00:19:11,264 --> 00:19:14,464 Speaker 1: Fane Amy Poehler back together again. Obviously they became best 433 00:19:14,504 --> 00:19:17,344 Speaker 1: friends on SNL and of some of the most famous 434 00:19:17,344 --> 00:19:20,304 Speaker 1: cast members to leave the show, reunited to do what 435 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:22,944 Speaker 1: they became quite famous for when they were hosting award 436 00:19:22,984 --> 00:19:25,544 Speaker 1: shows and also at their like traveling comedy tour that 437 00:19:25,584 --> 00:19:28,544 Speaker 1: they do, which is doing audience work, and they were 438 00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:30,744 Speaker 1: going through and like doing it all back and forth 439 00:19:31,064 --> 00:19:33,184 Speaker 1: with the celebrities sitting in the audience. 440 00:19:32,824 --> 00:19:34,144 Speaker 3: Full ten minute monologue. 441 00:19:34,184 --> 00:19:36,664 Speaker 1: It was so good. Obviously it was all pre planned, 442 00:19:36,664 --> 00:19:38,704 Speaker 1: but like all the jokes landed. At one stage, they 443 00:19:38,784 --> 00:19:41,064 Speaker 1: called themselves out though, because Seth Meyer stood up. He 444 00:19:41,144 --> 00:19:43,184 Speaker 1: was also in SNL, and he was like, Hey, this 445 00:19:43,304 --> 00:19:45,664 Speaker 1: just feels like you guys trying to give the people 446 00:19:45,664 --> 00:19:48,104 Speaker 1: in the audience who were returning cast members and guess 447 00:19:48,424 --> 00:19:50,464 Speaker 1: a moment on the show because we don't have real 448 00:19:50,504 --> 00:19:52,104 Speaker 1: parts in the actual show, And they were. 449 00:19:51,984 --> 00:19:56,064 Speaker 3: Like, noing that. I love that they made him do 450 00:19:56,104 --> 00:19:57,544 Speaker 3: it as well, because he is known for being like 451 00:19:57,544 --> 00:20:00,024 Speaker 3: one of the most famous head writers of SNL, so 452 00:20:00,064 --> 00:20:02,464 Speaker 3: it kind of like gives the illusion that he's literally like, 453 00:20:02,544 --> 00:20:03,984 Speaker 3: what the hell are you guys doing? Yeah, I would 454 00:20:03,984 --> 00:20:05,104 Speaker 3: have written this so much better. 455 00:20:05,384 --> 00:20:07,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that they were just saying like, Hey, you 456 00:20:07,464 --> 00:20:09,424 Speaker 1: guys who came along but aren't in the actual show, 457 00:20:09,504 --> 00:20:12,064 Speaker 1: let's give you a moment to shine. So Ryan Reynolds 458 00:20:12,104 --> 00:20:15,704 Speaker 1: and Blake Lively were there, which was interesting because obviously 459 00:20:15,784 --> 00:20:19,424 Speaker 1: since the whole legal issue with Justin Bealdoni happened, well 460 00:20:19,464 --> 00:20:22,104 Speaker 1: basically since it ends with US press tour and all 461 00:20:22,104 --> 00:20:24,864 Speaker 1: the backlash against Blake, they haven't gone to any big 462 00:20:24,864 --> 00:20:28,464 Speaker 1: public events, which has been interesting because Wolverine and Deadpool 463 00:20:28,544 --> 00:20:31,424 Speaker 1: has been nominated at a bunch of the award shows, 464 00:20:31,424 --> 00:20:33,344 Speaker 1: not the big ones like Sage and Oscar and all 465 00:20:33,344 --> 00:20:35,584 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, but critics' choice and they have 466 00:20:35,704 --> 00:20:39,104 Speaker 1: won a few awards. And Ryan Reynolds just such a 467 00:20:39,104 --> 00:20:41,544 Speaker 1: good movie. I'm sad that it's been tangled in this. 468 00:20:41,664 --> 00:20:45,144 Speaker 1: To be honest, here, Jack I know Hugh Jackman wants 469 00:20:45,184 --> 00:20:47,784 Speaker 1: to go up and get his award. They haven't gone 470 00:20:47,824 --> 00:20:49,664 Speaker 1: to any the award shows. They haven't been present at 471 00:20:49,664 --> 00:20:52,024 Speaker 1: any events. Blake didn't go to the super Bowl. They 472 00:20:52,024 --> 00:20:53,784 Speaker 1: haven't gone to any of like the big fashion or 473 00:20:53,824 --> 00:20:56,104 Speaker 1: film events they would normally be all over that sort 474 00:20:56,144 --> 00:20:58,224 Speaker 1: of stuff. But they did go to SNL. They walked 475 00:20:58,264 --> 00:21:01,544 Speaker 1: the red carpet together, lots of beautiful photos were taken. 476 00:21:01,584 --> 00:21:04,224 Speaker 1: They were sitting in the audience and Amy Poehler and 477 00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:06,664 Speaker 1: Tina Fey turned to them a question. 478 00:21:06,864 --> 00:21:07,504 Speaker 3: I have a question. 479 00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:15,504 Speaker 2: Oh hey, Ryan Reynolds, how's it going great? 480 00:21:15,904 --> 00:21:16,664 Speaker 1: Why what are you hear? 481 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:20,704 Speaker 3: I'm so surprised that he did this because I feel 482 00:21:20,704 --> 00:21:23,424 Speaker 3: like why it's very on brand for them. Yeah, but 483 00:21:24,424 --> 00:21:27,544 Speaker 3: just the way Justin's going with like his website and everything. 484 00:21:27,864 --> 00:21:31,864 Speaker 3: He's like trying to get everything he can possibly, especially 485 00:21:31,904 --> 00:21:34,504 Speaker 3: like with the court case happening. A lot of his 486 00:21:34,624 --> 00:21:38,504 Speaker 3: moves are in light of if what she's saying is true, 487 00:21:38,504 --> 00:21:39,864 Speaker 3: why would she be making a joke. 488 00:21:39,784 --> 00:21:42,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But I think maybe they just got to 489 00:21:42,024 --> 00:21:43,904 Speaker 1: the stage where we're just like, we're just going to 490 00:21:43,984 --> 00:21:45,344 Speaker 1: be part of this and make a joke at our 491 00:21:45,344 --> 00:21:47,624 Speaker 1: own expense and just let people know we're aware of 492 00:21:48,144 --> 00:21:50,984 Speaker 1: all the publicity that's swirling around it. And that's also 493 00:21:51,104 --> 00:21:53,384 Speaker 1: very on brand for Ryan Reynold to do something like that. 494 00:21:53,704 --> 00:21:56,544 Speaker 1: At the time of recording. Justin Baldoni hasn't added that 495 00:21:56,584 --> 00:21:58,544 Speaker 1: to his website about Blake yet, but you know, he's 496 00:21:58,544 --> 00:22:00,464 Speaker 1: sitting in his bedroom now. I'm picturing him like the 497 00:22:00,504 --> 00:22:03,504 Speaker 1: scene from Mean Girls, like pulling out his burn. This 498 00:22:03,624 --> 00:22:05,584 Speaker 1: girl is the ugliest. 499 00:22:05,144 --> 00:22:06,784 Speaker 3: Skin, the ugliest seat. 500 00:22:06,944 --> 00:22:09,184 Speaker 1: Kind of just writing with just being like a crazy 501 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:11,544 Speaker 1: gossip girl, just typing Wight he' laptopic and then they 502 00:22:11,544 --> 00:22:13,504 Speaker 1: went to SNL and then she said this about me 503 00:22:13,584 --> 00:22:16,744 Speaker 1: and hit published. A lot of people also think that 504 00:22:16,864 --> 00:22:20,224 Speaker 1: the moment wasn't scripted, which it completely was. The whole thing. 505 00:22:20,584 --> 00:22:23,064 Speaker 1: No way that wasn't scripted because well, of course, like 506 00:22:23,104 --> 00:22:25,504 Speaker 1: everyone knew went to stand up and everyone had a joke. 507 00:22:25,584 --> 00:22:28,304 Speaker 1: The camera was perfectly placed on the person, Like you 508 00:22:28,304 --> 00:22:29,904 Speaker 1: don't do a big scene like that with that many 509 00:22:29,904 --> 00:22:32,304 Speaker 1: people without it being scripted in rehearse and everyone's like 510 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:35,424 Speaker 1: teen signing off on the joke. And so Blake looked 511 00:22:35,464 --> 00:22:38,504 Speaker 1: really shocked when he said it because she's acting, she's 512 00:22:38,544 --> 00:22:40,584 Speaker 1: playing along with a bit, And so many people were 513 00:22:40,624 --> 00:22:43,424 Speaker 1: reposting that shocked look that she's. 514 00:22:43,064 --> 00:22:45,904 Speaker 3: So different watching the video versus watching a screenshot of 515 00:22:45,984 --> 00:22:48,544 Speaker 3: her face, Like there's no way you would think. 516 00:22:48,504 --> 00:22:51,104 Speaker 1: That she's playing along with it, And people are just like, oh, 517 00:22:51,144 --> 00:22:51,544 Speaker 1: look at her. 518 00:22:51,544 --> 00:22:54,384 Speaker 3: She didn't know she was to talk about, because it's 519 00:22:54,424 --> 00:22:56,784 Speaker 3: one of those situations every time we talk about a 520 00:22:56,864 --> 00:23:01,064 Speaker 3: new revelation about the Justin Baldoni versus Blake Lively, it's 521 00:23:01,104 --> 00:23:04,304 Speaker 3: really dependent on whose side you are on, and you 522 00:23:04,344 --> 00:23:07,224 Speaker 3: just see everything so differently, And we know from socials 523 00:23:07,264 --> 00:23:11,744 Speaker 3: like TikTok, Instagram, ex Twitter, a lot of people are 524 00:23:11,784 --> 00:23:15,544 Speaker 3: on Justin Baldoni's quote unquote side. So you take all 525 00:23:15,544 --> 00:23:17,424 Speaker 3: of this information and you just put it through a 526 00:23:17,424 --> 00:23:19,424 Speaker 3: different lens, and that's the lens they just choose to 527 00:23:19,424 --> 00:23:19,984 Speaker 3: see it through. 528 00:23:20,104 --> 00:23:22,904 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, So a few outlets because it's the first 529 00:23:22,904 --> 00:23:25,344 Speaker 1: time they posed on the red carpet. Since the whole 530 00:23:25,384 --> 00:23:27,984 Speaker 1: allegations broke, a few websites were having a bit of 531 00:23:27,984 --> 00:23:30,224 Speaker 1: fun with it, and they quickly changed their captions, which 532 00:23:30,264 --> 00:23:32,744 Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. Either they decided not to go 533 00:23:32,944 --> 00:23:36,784 Speaker 1: rogue or something happened behind the scenes. But Complex Magazine, 534 00:23:36,784 --> 00:23:40,104 Speaker 1: for example, their initial caption alongside a photo of Blake 535 00:23:40,144 --> 00:23:45,824 Speaker 1: and Ryan, Red Kalisi and Dragon number one. Sorry, that's 536 00:23:45,864 --> 00:23:49,264 Speaker 1: just funny, that caption writer. Sorry, I'm sorry you had 537 00:23:49,264 --> 00:23:51,824 Speaker 1: your work taken down. So you don't know what in 538 00:23:51,904 --> 00:23:54,504 Speaker 1: reference that is. Everyone knows, but tell tell them, Okay. 539 00:23:54,584 --> 00:23:58,384 Speaker 3: So on the website that Justin Baldoni has made about 540 00:23:58,424 --> 00:24:00,784 Speaker 3: all the evidence and stuff, there's a screenshot of a 541 00:24:00,784 --> 00:24:04,504 Speaker 3: text message that's allegedly from Blake Lively to Justin Baldoni 542 00:24:04,824 --> 00:24:09,624 Speaker 3: talking about how she's KAlSi and her dragon's Taylor Swift 543 00:24:09,624 --> 00:24:13,304 Speaker 3: and Ryan, which is the funniest. It's like the analogy 544 00:24:13,544 --> 00:24:15,824 Speaker 3: someone would say straight after they watched Game of Throat 545 00:24:15,904 --> 00:24:18,304 Speaker 3: and it's the one show in your head constantly. So 546 00:24:18,384 --> 00:24:20,144 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what I would have said to man. 547 00:24:20,424 --> 00:24:22,224 Speaker 1: Also, I didn't think Blake Lively watched the end of 548 00:24:22,224 --> 00:24:24,264 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones if she still thinks she's Chellisi or 549 00:24:24,304 --> 00:24:25,784 Speaker 1: maybe she does, and that's the. 550 00:24:25,744 --> 00:24:29,544 Speaker 3: Whole drogon which dragons drogon. 551 00:24:30,704 --> 00:24:33,984 Speaker 1: She didn't go on. So then I went through all 552 00:24:33,984 --> 00:24:36,784 Speaker 1: the different captions under all the photos that we did 553 00:24:36,784 --> 00:24:38,704 Speaker 1: the change it to. They changed it to date Night 554 00:24:38,704 --> 00:24:41,904 Speaker 1: at SNL. Yeah, I know tick Tacker someone at some 555 00:24:41,944 --> 00:24:43,744 Speaker 1: of that magazines fuming to the As an ex. 556 00:24:43,664 --> 00:24:45,984 Speaker 3: Social media manager, I say, take it back. 557 00:24:47,864 --> 00:24:49,904 Speaker 1: So then I went through all the different sides on 558 00:24:49,944 --> 00:24:52,944 Speaker 1: their social platforms. They had posted pictures of Blake and 559 00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:55,424 Speaker 1: Ryan just to get the vibe, and the vibe was 560 00:24:55,464 --> 00:24:59,064 Speaker 1: bad towards Blake and Ryan and SNL, which I think, 561 00:24:59,144 --> 00:25:01,584 Speaker 1: again depends which corner of the Internet you're on. It 562 00:25:01,664 --> 00:25:03,704 Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels like when you look at all the 563 00:25:03,704 --> 00:25:07,504 Speaker 1: evidence that it kind of veers to, not specifically anyone side, 564 00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:09,584 Speaker 1: but sometimes I feel like it veers more to Blake's 565 00:25:09,584 --> 00:25:11,744 Speaker 1: side when you look at evidence, and obviously we won't 566 00:25:11,784 --> 00:25:13,864 Speaker 1: know to the court case and even more evidence comes 567 00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:17,344 Speaker 1: out and Justin Baldoni updates his website, but the people, 568 00:25:17,504 --> 00:25:20,784 Speaker 1: it seems, are very still on Justin Baldoni's side. So 569 00:25:20,824 --> 00:25:24,904 Speaker 1: people were saying gross SNLS supporting bullies. Then someone was 570 00:25:24,944 --> 00:25:27,984 Speaker 1: saying the SNL event was a pretentious let down, showing 571 00:25:28,024 --> 00:25:30,784 Speaker 1: how out of touch they are with everyday Americans, serving 572 00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:34,104 Speaker 1: up inside jokes for Hollywood's a leaf unfunny skits and 573 00:25:34,144 --> 00:25:37,264 Speaker 1: inviting Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds who've been called out 574 00:25:37,264 --> 00:25:39,984 Speaker 1: for their egos instead of poking fun at them. And 575 00:25:40,024 --> 00:25:41,584 Speaker 1: then a lot of people were saying, it was very 576 00:25:41,664 --> 00:25:44,024 Speaker 1: nice of SNL to try and do damage control to 577 00:25:44,064 --> 00:25:46,624 Speaker 1: protect Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, but it won't work. 578 00:25:46,664 --> 00:25:49,904 Speaker 1: We know the truth. I'm just summarizing a lot hundreds 579 00:25:49,904 --> 00:25:52,104 Speaker 1: of different comments that all said those sorts of things. 580 00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:54,464 Speaker 3: It's interesting because I've gone a bit back and forth 581 00:25:54,504 --> 00:25:57,744 Speaker 3: with this on like the benefit SNL has gained out 582 00:25:57,744 --> 00:26:01,264 Speaker 3: of having Ryan Reynolds. Obviously, Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Justin 583 00:26:01,304 --> 00:26:04,904 Speaker 3: Baldoni are the most talked about celebrities of the moment, 584 00:26:05,304 --> 00:26:07,904 Speaker 3: So there's no way that they wouldn't have asked Blake 585 00:26:07,944 --> 00:26:10,344 Speaker 3: Lively or Ryan Reynolds knowing that they're in the audience 586 00:26:10,624 --> 00:26:12,704 Speaker 3: if they can take part and be on camera, like 587 00:26:12,744 --> 00:26:15,024 Speaker 3: that's going to just like jump away exactly crazy. So 588 00:26:15,064 --> 00:26:17,864 Speaker 3: obviously they'll do that. From a business perspective, I do 589 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:21,664 Speaker 3: see the pushback though, Like, I'm not surprised from the 590 00:26:21,704 --> 00:26:25,704 Speaker 3: backlash on socials because we know that from socials most 591 00:26:25,744 --> 00:26:30,104 Speaker 3: people are on like Justin Baldoni's side. And also it's 592 00:26:30,144 --> 00:26:32,064 Speaker 3: not even just about the joke that he made, but 593 00:26:32,104 --> 00:26:35,704 Speaker 3: it's about seeing every celebrity in that audience laugh. Yeah, 594 00:26:35,704 --> 00:26:38,224 Speaker 3: and like when you laugh in a way, you're showing support. 595 00:26:38,304 --> 00:26:38,464 Speaker 2: Yeah. 596 00:26:38,504 --> 00:26:40,344 Speaker 3: So that's the part that I was like, Oh. 597 00:26:40,184 --> 00:26:43,064 Speaker 1: That's going to get backlash, yeah, exactly. What was also 598 00:26:43,184 --> 00:26:45,824 Speaker 1: interesting is that they were obviously there because Ryan Reynolds 599 00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:49,664 Speaker 1: has hosted before and interestingly, Blake Clively was supposed to 600 00:26:49,704 --> 00:26:52,144 Speaker 1: host this year. That was supposed to be a big 601 00:26:52,184 --> 00:26:55,064 Speaker 1: part of the rollout, and yeah, of everything of it 602 00:26:55,184 --> 00:26:58,344 Speaker 1: ends with us. But then in her legal documents against 603 00:26:58,464 --> 00:27:00,344 Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni, she said she had to pull out of 604 00:27:00,344 --> 00:27:03,704 Speaker 1: hosting SNL because his smear campaign had made it impossible 605 00:27:03,704 --> 00:27:06,144 Speaker 1: for her to go forward. So also extra interesting that 606 00:27:06,184 --> 00:27:07,104 Speaker 1: they were in the audience. 607 00:27:07,344 --> 00:27:10,744 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. That is interesting. Thank you 608 00:27:10,784 --> 00:27:13,184 Speaker 3: so much for listening to the spill. Today. We have 609 00:27:13,304 --> 00:27:17,144 Speaker 3: covered Blake Lively and join Balderoni's legal battle quite a 610 00:27:17,184 --> 00:27:19,144 Speaker 3: bit over the last couple of months, so we'll put 611 00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:21,384 Speaker 3: a link to a bunch of our episodes where we 612 00:27:21,384 --> 00:27:23,984 Speaker 3: did that, and some explainers in our show notes. The 613 00:27:24,024 --> 00:27:26,664 Speaker 3: Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by 614 00:27:26,664 --> 00:27:28,744 Speaker 3: Scott Stronik, and we'll be back here in your podcast 615 00:27:28,824 --> 00:27:35,104 Speaker 3: feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye Bye 616 00:27:36,784 --> 00:27:37,064 Speaker 1: It