1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:13,334 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. 2 00:00:14,094 --> 00:00:17,214 Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,214 --> 00:00:18,934 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,254 --> 00:00:24,414 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily 5 00:00:24,454 --> 00:00:28,174 Speaker 3: news podcast, The Quickie. With the federal election now behind us, 6 00:00:28,294 --> 00:00:31,614 Speaker 3: what are the next triumphs and challenges in Australian politics, 7 00:00:31,854 --> 00:00:35,774 Speaker 3: from upcoming leadership ballots to historic majorities. This is your 8 00:00:35,774 --> 00:00:39,374 Speaker 3: odds pole update. Before we get there, here's Clare Murphy 9 00:00:39,374 --> 00:00:42,974 Speaker 3: with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Monday May twelve. 10 00:00:43,094 --> 00:00:46,174 Speaker 2: Thanks Taylor. Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi is set to unveil 11 00:00:46,214 --> 00:00:48,654 Speaker 2: his new look leadership team today for their second term 12 00:00:48,694 --> 00:00:51,774 Speaker 2: in office. Labour, which has now won ninety two seats 13 00:00:51,814 --> 00:00:55,534 Speaker 2: to the coalition's forty, is facing fierce internal competition for 14 00:00:55,614 --> 00:00:58,894 Speaker 2: the leadership positions following the influx of new talent and 15 00:00:58,934 --> 00:01:01,734 Speaker 2: the usual caverp between both the states and the warring 16 00:01:01,774 --> 00:01:05,294 Speaker 2: factions within the party itself. Attorney General Mark Dreyfus and 17 00:01:05,374 --> 00:01:09,134 Speaker 2: Industry Minister Ed Husick have already been ousted. Husick calling 18 00:01:09,174 --> 00:01:12,534 Speaker 2: Deputy d Richard Mulls, who endorsed their removal as a 19 00:01:12,574 --> 00:01:17,214 Speaker 2: factional assassin. Treasurer Jim Chalma's, Finance Minister Katie Gallagher, Defense 20 00:01:17,254 --> 00:01:20,334 Speaker 2: Minister Richard Mules and Trade Minister Don Farrell will remain 21 00:01:20,374 --> 00:01:23,974 Speaker 2: in their positions, with Sam Ray, Daniel Malino, Jess Walsh 22 00:01:23,974 --> 00:01:27,054 Speaker 2: and Tim Eyres elevated to the front bench. Labour has 23 00:01:27,134 --> 00:01:29,134 Speaker 2: already set out the agenda for what they aim to 24 00:01:29,174 --> 00:01:32,494 Speaker 2: tackle first as they retained leadership of the country, including 25 00:01:32,534 --> 00:01:36,094 Speaker 2: nominating twenty percent cuts to student debt, a clear mandate 26 00:01:36,134 --> 00:01:39,254 Speaker 2: to build more housing to help address affordability issues, and 27 00:01:39,294 --> 00:01:43,454 Speaker 2: to establish a federal Environmental protection Agency, an outstanding agenda 28 00:01:43,494 --> 00:01:47,174 Speaker 2: item from their previous term. The inquest into the Bondai 29 00:01:47,174 --> 00:01:50,534 Speaker 2: Westfield stabbing attack will hear from doctors today who stopped 30 00:01:50,574 --> 00:01:54,334 Speaker 2: medicating the attacker, who suffered from schizophrenia. The third week 31 00:01:54,374 --> 00:01:57,254 Speaker 2: of evidence will hear from two nurses and a psychiatrist 32 00:01:57,254 --> 00:01:59,934 Speaker 2: who saw Joel Couchy at a private clinic into Woomba. 33 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:03,454 Speaker 2: The doctor, who cannot be identified, helped win him off 34 00:02:03,494 --> 00:02:07,654 Speaker 2: of his antipsychotic medication after he complained about the side effects, 35 00:02:07,814 --> 00:02:11,174 Speaker 2: and by July twenty nineteen, he wasn't taking anything. By 36 00:02:11,254 --> 00:02:13,734 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, he'd moved to Brisbane and was no longer 37 00:02:13,774 --> 00:02:17,334 Speaker 2: seeing anyone for his mental health, becoming completely detached from 38 00:02:17,334 --> 00:02:20,414 Speaker 2: the healthcare system. The court has already heard from police 39 00:02:20,454 --> 00:02:23,494 Speaker 2: who interacted with Kouci, who witnessed signs that his mental 40 00:02:23,534 --> 00:02:27,214 Speaker 2: health was deteriorating between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three. 41 00:02:28,134 --> 00:02:31,294 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski says he will agree to meet 42 00:02:31,334 --> 00:02:34,854 Speaker 2: with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Turkey this week. After 43 00:02:34,894 --> 00:02:38,054 Speaker 2: initially being uncertain about the offer after the Russian president 44 00:02:38,094 --> 00:02:41,814 Speaker 2: revealed it in a televised statement, Zelenski relented after US 45 00:02:41,894 --> 00:02:45,374 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump told him to immediately accept Putin's proposal 46 00:02:45,454 --> 00:02:48,614 Speaker 2: of direct talks. It's not clear, however, whether Putin will 47 00:02:48,614 --> 00:02:51,054 Speaker 2: appear at the talks in person or will send a 48 00:02:51,094 --> 00:02:54,414 Speaker 2: representative in his place. Zelenski posted that he'll be waiting 49 00:02:54,414 --> 00:02:57,614 Speaker 2: for Putin in Turkey on Thursday, personally saying he hopes 50 00:02:57,654 --> 00:03:01,214 Speaker 2: this time they won't look for excuses. Putin's proposal came 51 00:03:01,374 --> 00:03:04,614 Speaker 2: just hours after major European powers demanded he agree to 52 00:03:04,654 --> 00:03:08,694 Speaker 2: an unconditional thirty day cease fire or face massive new sanctions, 53 00:03:08,934 --> 00:03:12,134 Speaker 2: but Trump on social media that President Putin doesn't want 54 00:03:12,174 --> 00:03:14,654 Speaker 2: to cease fire, but would rather meet to negotiate a 55 00:03:14,694 --> 00:03:17,174 Speaker 2: possible end to the blood bath, and that Ukraine should 56 00:03:17,174 --> 00:03:20,734 Speaker 2: agree to this immediately. Meanwhile, new Pope Leo has called 57 00:03:20,774 --> 00:03:23,574 Speaker 2: for an authentic and lasting piece in Ukraine and a 58 00:03:23,614 --> 00:03:26,774 Speaker 2: ceasefire in Gaza and the release of all Israeli hostages. 59 00:03:27,094 --> 00:03:30,174 Speaker 2: In his first Sunday message to crowns in Saint Peter's Square, 60 00:03:30,454 --> 00:03:34,254 Speaker 2: Leo also welcomed the new seasfire agreement between India and Pakistan, 61 00:03:34,574 --> 00:03:36,574 Speaker 2: saying he was praying to God to grant the world 62 00:03:36,574 --> 00:03:40,734 Speaker 2: the miracle of peace. US President Donald Trump has reportedly 63 00:03:40,774 --> 00:03:44,054 Speaker 2: accepted a gift from the Katari ruling family, a seven 64 00:03:44,174 --> 00:03:46,894 Speaker 2: four seven jumbo jet that could be converted into a 65 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:50,454 Speaker 2: potential air Force one. Trump will reportedly use the plane 66 00:03:50,494 --> 00:03:52,894 Speaker 2: in his capacity as president until the end of his 67 00:03:53,014 --> 00:03:55,974 Speaker 2: term in January twenty twenty nine, where ownership will be 68 00:03:56,014 --> 00:04:00,094 Speaker 2: transferred to the foundation overseeing yet to be built Presidential Library. 69 00:04:00,374 --> 00:04:03,214 Speaker 2: There are concerns over the president accepting such a large 70 00:04:03,254 --> 00:04:06,014 Speaker 2: gift from a foreign government. Some are questioning whether it 71 00:04:06,054 --> 00:04:10,054 Speaker 2: goes against a constitutional amendment that states anyone hold government 72 00:04:10,094 --> 00:04:13,934 Speaker 2: office cannot accept any present emolument, office, or title from 73 00:04:13,974 --> 00:04:17,894 Speaker 2: any king, prince, or foreign state. Without congressional consent, the 74 00:04:17,934 --> 00:04:20,254 Speaker 2: plane would not be as capable as the existing Air 75 00:04:20,294 --> 00:04:22,974 Speaker 2: Force one jets, which are able to refuel mid flight. 76 00:04:23,734 --> 00:04:27,134 Speaker 2: Bindi Irwin has missed her dad's annual gala after undergoing 77 00:04:27,134 --> 00:04:30,174 Speaker 2: emergency surgery. The twenty six year old had been due 78 00:04:30,214 --> 00:04:32,894 Speaker 2: to attend the annual fundraiser in her late father, Steve 79 00:04:32,934 --> 00:04:36,054 Speaker 2: Irwin's name, but was experiencing some pain in her abdomen. 80 00:04:36,214 --> 00:04:38,294 Speaker 2: She wanted to push through to attend the event, but 81 00:04:38,374 --> 00:04:41,174 Speaker 2: doctors intervened and she was taken to hospital, where they 82 00:04:41,174 --> 00:04:44,454 Speaker 2: found her appendix had ruptured. Her mum, Terry, also missed 83 00:04:44,494 --> 00:04:47,374 Speaker 2: the event to stay by her daughter's side. Bindi's brother 84 00:04:47,454 --> 00:04:50,014 Speaker 2: Robert told People magazine that she's going to be okay, 85 00:04:50,334 --> 00:04:52,334 Speaker 2: but as far as surgery goes. Of all the things 86 00:04:52,374 --> 00:04:54,454 Speaker 2: they were ready for, this was not one of them. 87 00:04:54,734 --> 00:04:57,214 Speaker 2: He was referring to his sister having undergone surgery for 88 00:04:57,374 --> 00:05:00,134 Speaker 2: endometriosis removal Thanks Claire. 89 00:05:00,174 --> 00:05:08,134 Speaker 3: Next Australia's new political landscape. We all know now that 90 00:05:08,214 --> 00:05:11,854 Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi has made history, becoming the first Prime minister 91 00:05:12,014 --> 00:05:15,134 Speaker 3: to win back to back elections since two thousand and four. 92 00:05:15,494 --> 00:05:18,814 Speaker 3: But it's not just Labour's victory that's breaking new ground. 93 00:05:19,174 --> 00:05:22,454 Speaker 3: As the party room continue to meet across this government cycle, 94 00:05:22,574 --> 00:05:25,734 Speaker 3: it'll be the first time in Australian history that women 95 00:05:25,974 --> 00:05:29,014 Speaker 3: make up the majority of a major party's caucus, with 96 00:05:29,134 --> 00:05:34,054 Speaker 3: female MPs now representing fifty seven percent of Labour's ranks. 97 00:05:34,294 --> 00:05:35,854 Speaker 3: But how many of them will be called up to 98 00:05:35,894 --> 00:05:39,734 Speaker 3: the ministry or inherit senior roles. Meanwhile, the Liberals are 99 00:05:39,734 --> 00:05:42,934 Speaker 3: facing a leadership contest after Peter Dutton lost his seat 100 00:05:42,974 --> 00:05:46,254 Speaker 3: of Dixon, expected to hold their leadership vote tomorrow. There 101 00:05:46,294 --> 00:05:50,214 Speaker 3: were initially four names floating around as lead contenders. Now 102 00:05:50,334 --> 00:05:54,174 Speaker 3: both Danteen and Andrew Hasty have withdrawn from contention, but 103 00:05:54,334 --> 00:05:57,734 Speaker 3: acting Liberal leader Susan Lee and Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor 104 00:05:57,774 --> 00:06:01,494 Speaker 3: remains standing. There are some concerns though, for both Lee 105 00:06:01,574 --> 00:06:05,174 Speaker 3: and Taylor. Firstly that Susan Lee could be heading for 106 00:06:05,214 --> 00:06:08,334 Speaker 3: a glass cliff, a term often used to describe when 107 00:06:08,374 --> 00:06:11,374 Speaker 3: women or minorities are put into leadership roles during a 108 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:14,894 Speaker 3: crisis or tough times. Basically, they're more likely to cop 109 00:06:14,934 --> 00:06:18,254 Speaker 3: flak or be blamed for things going wrong. Meanwhile, Angus 110 00:06:18,294 --> 00:06:21,494 Speaker 3: Taylor is drawing criticism from within his own party, Known 111 00:06:21,534 --> 00:06:24,734 Speaker 3: to lean towards the right or conservative faction of the Liberals, 112 00:06:24,774 --> 00:06:28,734 Speaker 3: Other MPs have openly opposed his leadership challenge and questioned 113 00:06:28,814 --> 00:06:32,814 Speaker 3: his economic policies. The contest has been further complicated by 114 00:06:32,814 --> 00:06:36,654 Speaker 3: the shock defection of National Senator Jacina Napujimber Price to 115 00:06:36,694 --> 00:06:41,014 Speaker 3: the Liberal Party, running as Taylor's deputy pick. If this 116 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:43,894 Speaker 3: wasn't enough, the Nationals may too soon be welcoming a 117 00:06:44,014 --> 00:06:46,574 Speaker 3: new leader. The ABC were the first to report on 118 00:06:46,654 --> 00:06:50,574 Speaker 3: Friday that Queensland Senator Matt Canavan will challenge currently to 119 00:06:50,654 --> 00:06:53,614 Speaker 3: David little Proud as front of the party. The Nats 120 00:06:53,654 --> 00:06:56,294 Speaker 3: are meeting today, so keep an eye out there for 121 00:06:56,334 --> 00:07:00,254 Speaker 3: any changes. Also in search of new leadership is the 122 00:07:00,294 --> 00:07:03,534 Speaker 3: Greens Party. After a fifteen year career in Parliament, five 123 00:07:03,574 --> 00:07:06,054 Speaker 3: of which he served as Leader of the Greens, Adam 124 00:07:06,094 --> 00:07:09,214 Speaker 3: Band has lost his seat of Melbourne to Labour Sarah Whitty. 125 00:07:09,694 --> 00:07:12,454 Speaker 3: The Greens also lost three of their four seats in 126 00:07:12,494 --> 00:07:16,014 Speaker 3: the lower House, leaving Queensland's Elizabeth Watson Brown as their 127 00:07:16,054 --> 00:07:19,294 Speaker 3: sole representative, but with both Labor and the Greens gaining 128 00:07:19,334 --> 00:07:21,734 Speaker 3: a number of seats in the Senate, it could bode 129 00:07:21,814 --> 00:07:24,774 Speaker 3: well for the minor party's bargaining power. Back to the 130 00:07:24,854 --> 00:07:27,414 Speaker 3: question of who will lead the Greens. Nick McKim, who 131 00:07:27,494 --> 00:07:30,854 Speaker 3: might remember during the campaign cycle as live streaming playing 132 00:07:30,974 --> 00:07:33,614 Speaker 3: video games, Well he's ruled himself out of running for 133 00:07:33,654 --> 00:07:37,054 Speaker 3: the leadership that Senators Sarah Hanson Young and Maureene Ferruki 134 00:07:37,214 --> 00:07:41,294 Speaker 3: are emerging as likely contenders. Where to from here though, 135 00:07:41,414 --> 00:07:43,734 Speaker 3: With a couple of leadership rolls up for grabs and 136 00:07:43,934 --> 00:07:46,934 Speaker 3: more women at the table than ever before, Associate editor 137 00:07:46,974 --> 00:07:51,014 Speaker 3: at The Australian Jenna Clark is back for more political analysis. Jenna, 138 00:07:51,254 --> 00:07:54,374 Speaker 3: let's start with Labor. A historic majority for women in 139 00:07:54,414 --> 00:07:57,334 Speaker 3: the caucus. But what does it mean for policymaking. 140 00:07:58,094 --> 00:08:01,174 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's going to be really interesting because obviously 141 00:08:01,214 --> 00:08:03,214 Speaker 1: they'll have their cabinet and then they'll have the outer 142 00:08:03,334 --> 00:08:06,134 Speaker 1: cabinet and then there's the wider Labor caucus. And I 143 00:08:06,174 --> 00:08:09,014 Speaker 1: always find those days in Parliament really exciting because you're 144 00:08:09,054 --> 00:08:11,774 Speaker 1: kind of invite in and one of the representatives gives 145 00:08:11,814 --> 00:08:14,494 Speaker 1: you the notes to sort of what happened in those meetings. 146 00:08:14,534 --> 00:08:16,134 Speaker 1: And I think it is going to be so interesting 147 00:08:16,174 --> 00:08:18,854 Speaker 1: the fact that we're having so many new faces, so 148 00:08:18,974 --> 00:08:20,694 Speaker 1: there could be a lot of there'll be very much 149 00:08:20,774 --> 00:08:23,534 Speaker 1: different points of view. The different factions being the left 150 00:08:23,534 --> 00:08:25,574 Speaker 1: and right, will offer different points of view to how 151 00:08:25,614 --> 00:08:28,974 Speaker 1: to tackle policy. Obviously, now with the left faction being 152 00:08:29,014 --> 00:08:31,334 Speaker 1: the most dominant, which we haven't really seen in modern 153 00:08:31,414 --> 00:08:34,694 Speaker 1: day politics, alban Easy being the biggest gorilla in the room. 154 00:08:34,694 --> 00:08:36,614 Speaker 1: When it comes to the left side, I think we're 155 00:08:36,614 --> 00:08:39,894 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of progressive change sort of 156 00:08:39,974 --> 00:08:42,654 Speaker 1: just happen by nature of the being that it is 157 00:08:42,694 --> 00:08:45,174 Speaker 1: a very left leaning government at this point in time. 158 00:08:45,414 --> 00:08:48,294 Speaker 3: Well, we see more women in some of those senior roles, 159 00:08:48,334 --> 00:08:49,694 Speaker 3: like brought up to the ministry. 160 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:53,134 Speaker 1: So the labor rules are very sacred. It's almost like 161 00:08:53,294 --> 00:08:56,214 Speaker 1: the conclave that we saw. There needs to be the 162 00:08:56,294 --> 00:08:59,534 Speaker 1: right number of left and right members from each faction. 163 00:08:59,614 --> 00:09:02,294 Speaker 1: There needs to be the distribution for all of the 164 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:06,014 Speaker 1: states and territories. There's also affirmative action which the Labour 165 00:09:06,054 --> 00:09:08,654 Speaker 1: Party have signed up to. So there will be a 166 00:09:08,694 --> 00:09:10,534 Speaker 1: lot of female men because there are a lot of 167 00:09:10,534 --> 00:09:14,054 Speaker 1: female candidates. But we know for sure that we'll still 168 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:17,774 Speaker 1: have Foreign Minister Penny Wong. We have confirmation that Tanya 169 00:09:17,774 --> 00:09:19,974 Speaker 1: Plibust will still be in the cabinet, don't know what 170 00:09:20,014 --> 00:09:23,454 Speaker 1: ministry she'll get, and Katie Gallaher will still be Finance Minister. 171 00:09:23,534 --> 00:09:26,534 Speaker 1: So them some pretty top tier gigs and then the 172 00:09:26,574 --> 00:09:28,814 Speaker 1: rest will follow out. I'm hoping personally that we see 173 00:09:28,814 --> 00:09:31,174 Speaker 1: someone like Anika Wells sticking with sport because she did 174 00:09:31,214 --> 00:09:34,494 Speaker 1: a great job, and then Anne Ali with youth childhood. 175 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:35,454 Speaker 1: So who knows. 176 00:09:35,934 --> 00:09:39,814 Speaker 3: Okay, So let's talk the Liberal leadership ballot that's all 177 00:09:39,854 --> 00:09:43,974 Speaker 3: handing down on Tuesday this week. Two top contenders here. 178 00:09:44,014 --> 00:09:46,374 Speaker 3: We know that Andrew Hasty and Dan Teina have both 179 00:09:46,454 --> 00:09:48,974 Speaker 3: bout out of the leadership contention, so we're looking at 180 00:09:49,134 --> 00:09:53,094 Speaker 3: likely it'll be Susan Lee, the current deputy leader, the 181 00:09:53,174 --> 00:09:55,774 Speaker 3: current interim leader if you will, and the Shadow treasurer 182 00:09:55,814 --> 00:09:59,974 Speaker 3: Angus Taylor. Let's talk about Lee first. How significant would 183 00:09:59,974 --> 00:10:02,214 Speaker 3: it be if she became the first Liberal leader that's 184 00:10:02,214 --> 00:10:02,574 Speaker 3: a woman. 185 00:10:03,014 --> 00:10:05,294 Speaker 1: Look, I'm in two minds about this because I think 186 00:10:05,294 --> 00:10:07,094 Speaker 1: it look, it would be great that there would be 187 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:09,094 Speaker 1: you know, we'll have a female leader of the Conservative 188 00:10:09,134 --> 00:10:11,174 Speaker 1: Party in Australia for the first time. It's something that 189 00:10:11,254 --> 00:10:15,654 Speaker 1: Julie Bishop could couldn't climb that mountain. But what gets 190 00:10:15,694 --> 00:10:17,934 Speaker 1: me though, is it And I think we spoke about 191 00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:20,574 Speaker 1: this before. I always kind of grates me that you 192 00:10:20,654 --> 00:10:23,054 Speaker 1: always get women into clean up the mess. We saw 193 00:10:23,094 --> 00:10:25,694 Speaker 1: it in wa with Libby Medam she was the opposition 194 00:10:25,774 --> 00:10:29,134 Speaker 1: leader while after the twenty twenty one campaign, an election 195 00:10:29,214 --> 00:10:32,014 Speaker 1: which saw them decimated to just two Lower House members, 196 00:10:32,494 --> 00:10:34,814 Speaker 1: and then of course we saw what happened. They gained 197 00:10:34,814 --> 00:10:36,654 Speaker 1: a few more seats and then she was turfed out 198 00:10:37,054 --> 00:10:40,014 Speaker 1: just a couple of months ago. Look, it will be significant. 199 00:10:40,054 --> 00:10:41,894 Speaker 1: She's been in Parliament since two thousand and one, so 200 00:10:41,894 --> 00:10:44,654 Speaker 1: that's a really long time. She's held a number of portfolios, 201 00:10:45,014 --> 00:10:47,534 Speaker 1: not without controversy. She had to sort of step aside 202 00:10:47,574 --> 00:10:52,774 Speaker 1: from a sum due to some expense mishandling. Interestingly, she's 203 00:10:52,854 --> 00:10:55,934 Speaker 1: had a pretty diverse life before entering politics. She's a pilot, 204 00:10:55,974 --> 00:10:58,774 Speaker 1: she's been asherer. She also changed her name to add 205 00:10:58,814 --> 00:11:01,854 Speaker 1: the double s according to numerology, when she was nineteen, 206 00:11:01,934 --> 00:11:06,894 Speaker 1: So she has a broad spectrum of interests and tastes. 207 00:11:07,174 --> 00:11:09,454 Speaker 3: Who would have thought that women can be complex? Creep 208 00:11:09,694 --> 00:11:12,614 Speaker 3: is beyond just the cabin that they sit in. What 209 00:11:12,654 --> 00:11:15,414 Speaker 3: about Angus Taylor, what do you make of his chances. 210 00:11:15,414 --> 00:11:19,214 Speaker 1: Now that he has the muscle behind him being sented 211 00:11:19,654 --> 00:11:22,654 Speaker 1: just into Nambagina Price, who has defected from the National 212 00:11:22,694 --> 00:11:26,454 Speaker 1: Party into the Liberal Party, who the rumors are swirling 213 00:11:26,494 --> 00:11:28,854 Speaker 1: around that she will run as his deputy. I think 214 00:11:28,894 --> 00:11:32,014 Speaker 1: that's probably emboldened a lot of people that were maybe 215 00:11:32,054 --> 00:11:35,854 Speaker 1: hesitant to put their hat in their hat in his ring. 216 00:11:36,294 --> 00:11:39,214 Speaker 1: But it will be interesting to see because I think 217 00:11:39,294 --> 00:11:41,694 Speaker 1: he may have a hard time shaking off the shackles 218 00:11:41,694 --> 00:11:44,214 Speaker 1: from the campaign. There is a lot of criticism that 219 00:11:44,254 --> 00:11:48,894 Speaker 1: he wasn't able to execute a coherent economic message for 220 00:11:48,934 --> 00:11:51,094 Speaker 1: the past three years, but you know, he's been in 221 00:11:51,134 --> 00:11:53,534 Speaker 1: parliament a long time. It's a smart dude. He's an accountant, 222 00:11:53,534 --> 00:11:56,854 Speaker 1: an economist, he's been a consultant before and he's also 223 00:11:56,894 --> 00:11:59,894 Speaker 1: a Rhodes scholar. So they've all got, you know, traits 224 00:11:59,934 --> 00:12:02,574 Speaker 1: that will be interesting to see what they bring to 225 00:12:02,614 --> 00:12:04,654 Speaker 1: the f as leaders. So it's going to be a 226 00:12:04,774 --> 00:12:07,014 Speaker 1: very interesting race. Oh to be a fly on the 227 00:12:07,014 --> 00:12:08,774 Speaker 1: wall of that party room meeting. 228 00:12:09,614 --> 00:12:13,534 Speaker 3: The just enterprise element is interesting. It looks as though yes, 229 00:12:13,614 --> 00:12:16,614 Speaker 3: she will run as his potential debt pity, there's a 230 00:12:16,654 --> 00:12:19,534 Speaker 3: lot of critique around her and sort of what center 231 00:12:19,574 --> 00:12:22,694 Speaker 3: Price stands for, and obviously there was she almost nailed 232 00:12:22,694 --> 00:12:26,294 Speaker 3: down on the make Australia great again rhetoric like Donald Trump, 233 00:12:26,374 --> 00:12:29,174 Speaker 3: but then also try to distance herself from that. Will 234 00:12:29,174 --> 00:12:33,654 Speaker 3: that damage Angus Taylor's chances of being the Liberal leader? Oh? Look, 235 00:12:33,694 --> 00:12:34,134 Speaker 3: I don't know. 236 00:12:34,174 --> 00:12:37,254 Speaker 1: There may be some within the party that may may 237 00:12:37,374 --> 00:12:39,294 Speaker 1: say this is just too much, we don't want to go. 238 00:12:39,534 --> 00:12:42,014 Speaker 1: We're near that, so they'll probably go in Lay's camp. 239 00:12:42,414 --> 00:12:45,654 Speaker 1: But look, I think it will be interesting to see 240 00:12:45,734 --> 00:12:50,174 Speaker 1: how this Enterprice evolves in her political career. Like moving 241 00:12:50,174 --> 00:12:52,934 Speaker 1: from the NATS into the Liberal Party, it's not really 242 00:12:52,934 --> 00:12:54,734 Speaker 1: a massive leap, although a lot of the Nats are 243 00:12:54,814 --> 00:12:57,774 Speaker 1: very disenfranchised with her move at this point in time 244 00:12:58,494 --> 00:13:01,014 Speaker 1: because obviously she sits with the Country Liberal Party in 245 00:13:01,254 --> 00:13:04,654 Speaker 1: the NT. But if she does have further aspirations to 246 00:13:04,734 --> 00:13:06,974 Speaker 1: hire office, the part of the Prime Minister can only 247 00:13:07,014 --> 00:13:09,894 Speaker 1: sit in the Lower House, so she will to put 248 00:13:09,894 --> 00:13:13,054 Speaker 1: herself forward at a general election for a lower House seat, 249 00:13:13,254 --> 00:13:16,854 Speaker 1: which all of them in the Northern Territory received massive 250 00:13:16,894 --> 00:13:19,694 Speaker 1: swings to them swings to Labor in the past election. 251 00:13:20,054 --> 00:13:23,014 Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about the Greens Party because the Liberals. 252 00:13:23,054 --> 00:13:25,374 Speaker 3: Obviously the big highlight of the election was Peter Dutton 253 00:13:25,414 --> 00:13:27,854 Speaker 3: lost his seat. They'll need a new leader. But now 254 00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:31,534 Speaker 3: we know that Adam Bant has lost his seat in Melbourne. 255 00:13:32,214 --> 00:13:34,574 Speaker 3: How big of a loss is it for the Greens Party. 256 00:13:34,614 --> 00:13:36,374 Speaker 3: I mean they lost three of their four seats in 257 00:13:36,414 --> 00:13:39,014 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives, one of them being their leader. 258 00:13:39,654 --> 00:13:40,814 Speaker 3: What's that impact going to? 259 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:44,814 Speaker 1: Have been very thoughtful and in sort of looking at 260 00:13:44,814 --> 00:13:48,094 Speaker 1: the loss and look, it comes down to. It's preferential voting. 261 00:13:48,134 --> 00:13:52,094 Speaker 1: That is the evils and the beauty of preferential voting. 262 00:13:52,334 --> 00:13:55,294 Speaker 1: And don't forget when Bant won his seat in twenty ten, 263 00:13:55,374 --> 00:13:57,814 Speaker 1: he actually won off the back of Liberal preferences anyway, 264 00:13:58,574 --> 00:14:00,734 Speaker 1: and now he's sort of died by that sword as well. 265 00:14:01,214 --> 00:14:03,614 Speaker 1: I think it will I mean, it'll be interesting to 266 00:14:03,614 --> 00:14:06,214 Speaker 1: see what the party is like when it regroups with 267 00:14:06,254 --> 00:14:08,054 Speaker 1: a new leader, because I think that's the beauty of 268 00:14:08,094 --> 00:14:09,854 Speaker 1: the Greens. Every time that they've had a lead, it 269 00:14:10,014 --> 00:14:13,214 Speaker 1: really has morphed into the lightness or the whims of 270 00:14:13,254 --> 00:14:16,094 Speaker 1: the leader. We saw Bob Brown, Christine Milne, Richard dinner 271 00:14:16,214 --> 00:14:19,414 Speaker 1: Tale was a wonderful leader for the Greens. So it 272 00:14:19,454 --> 00:14:21,814 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see who's next. But don't forget 273 00:14:21,854 --> 00:14:23,974 Speaker 1: Senate is where they hold the control of power, and 274 00:14:24,094 --> 00:14:27,534 Speaker 1: Senate called the other place in Parliament is where all 275 00:14:27,654 --> 00:14:29,814 Speaker 1: of the action happens when it comes to legislation. 276 00:14:30,254 --> 00:14:31,934 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk a little bit about that. I want 277 00:14:31,974 --> 00:14:34,134 Speaker 3: to come back to who could potentially lead the Greens. 278 00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:36,894 Speaker 3: But there's been some analysis that suggest that while the 279 00:14:36,894 --> 00:14:39,694 Speaker 3: Greens have lost out in the House of Representative, they 280 00:14:39,734 --> 00:14:43,094 Speaker 3: have gained in the Senate, so have Labor and that 281 00:14:43,134 --> 00:14:46,414 Speaker 3: could actually bode more in the Greens. Favorite can you 282 00:14:46,454 --> 00:14:48,694 Speaker 3: explain to us, Jenneral, what that actually means? 283 00:14:49,294 --> 00:14:53,174 Speaker 1: Upper houses where legislation is heavily, heavily scrutinized. So whether 284 00:14:53,214 --> 00:14:56,534 Speaker 1: that's a comma, whether that's an appendix which wants to 285 00:14:56,534 --> 00:14:59,094 Speaker 1: be added, something removed, amendments to be made, that all 286 00:14:59,134 --> 00:15:02,694 Speaker 1: happens in the upper House, and that's where that is 287 00:15:02,734 --> 00:15:04,614 Speaker 1: sort of where what's why people call it quite the 288 00:15:04,614 --> 00:15:06,934 Speaker 1: boring place because you have to be such a pedantic 289 00:15:06,974 --> 00:15:10,214 Speaker 1: person to really love legislation that much, but it is 290 00:15:10,254 --> 00:15:13,854 Speaker 1: that's where laws are won and lost and mate. So 291 00:15:14,214 --> 00:15:17,694 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see the negotiation that is needed. 292 00:15:18,014 --> 00:15:20,294 Speaker 1: I'm assuming we'll still see Penny Wong being the leader 293 00:15:20,334 --> 00:15:23,454 Speaker 1: of the Senate for the government there she is an 294 00:15:23,534 --> 00:15:28,414 Speaker 1: absolute master when it comes to negotiating with her left colleagues. 295 00:15:28,774 --> 00:15:32,174 Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see if they and 296 00:15:32,214 --> 00:15:34,734 Speaker 1: there was some criticism from the Greens for holding up legislation, 297 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:38,374 Speaker 1: especially around housing in the past parliament, so it will 298 00:15:38,374 --> 00:15:40,694 Speaker 1: be interesting to see under a new leader whether they 299 00:15:41,254 --> 00:15:44,414 Speaker 1: seed some ground to or sort of lose the battle 300 00:15:44,454 --> 00:15:47,254 Speaker 1: to win the greater war. What that war is remains 301 00:15:47,294 --> 00:15:47,734 Speaker 1: to be seen. 302 00:15:48,054 --> 00:15:51,174 Speaker 3: Okay, so we know that Senator Nick McKim has already 303 00:15:51,214 --> 00:15:54,294 Speaker 3: about out of potential leadership of the Greens Party. Who 304 00:15:54,294 --> 00:15:55,974 Speaker 3: else do we like there? I mean, what about the 305 00:15:55,974 --> 00:15:56,694 Speaker 3: other senators? 306 00:15:57,374 --> 00:15:59,934 Speaker 1: Well we've got I mean, really take your pick. There's 307 00:15:59,934 --> 00:16:04,254 Speaker 1: all of star candidates. Reallylarissa Waters has been there a 308 00:16:04,254 --> 00:16:06,934 Speaker 1: long time. She was also we must remember she's the 309 00:16:06,934 --> 00:16:10,094 Speaker 1: first Senator that breastfed in the chamber quite directly back 310 00:16:10,094 --> 00:16:13,294 Speaker 1: in the day. Sarah Hanson Young she does some great 311 00:16:13,294 --> 00:16:15,814 Speaker 1: things for the topics that she's really passionate about. And 312 00:16:15,854 --> 00:16:18,654 Speaker 1: also Marine Faricki, who I believe is a deputy at 313 00:16:18,654 --> 00:16:21,254 Speaker 1: this point in time as well. So they're the kind 314 00:16:21,294 --> 00:16:26,814 Speaker 1: of where the leadership contention could go so it will 315 00:16:26,814 --> 00:16:30,014 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that all shakes out as well. 316 00:16:30,014 --> 00:16:32,334 Speaker 1: It's going to be a very busy time before parliament 317 00:16:32,374 --> 00:16:33,134 Speaker 1: resumes in July. 318 00:16:33,614 --> 00:16:36,974 Speaker 3: We spoke about this right after the election. You, Jess 319 00:16:37,014 --> 00:16:38,454 Speaker 3: Wang and I got together and had a bit of 320 00:16:38,454 --> 00:16:40,574 Speaker 3: a debrief. But now that we've got a bit of 321 00:16:40,574 --> 00:16:43,174 Speaker 3: a clearer picture of who will be in the Parliament 322 00:16:43,214 --> 00:16:45,534 Speaker 3: going forward for the rest of this year, for potentially 323 00:16:45,614 --> 00:16:47,654 Speaker 3: the rest of this cycle, fingers crossed, there's no more 324 00:16:47,734 --> 00:16:50,614 Speaker 3: leaderships bills. What can we expect to see from the 325 00:16:50,694 --> 00:16:53,214 Speaker 3: Labor government in the coming months, do you think? Look? 326 00:16:53,254 --> 00:16:56,054 Speaker 1: I think albo it looks match fit. He had run 327 00:16:56,094 --> 00:16:59,934 Speaker 1: an absolutely blistering campaign. I think he feels emboldened by 328 00:17:00,094 --> 00:17:04,214 Speaker 1: his win. All of his post election interviews have been 329 00:17:04,214 --> 00:17:07,374 Speaker 1: incredibly thoughtful. He's talking about you know, this is not 330 00:17:07,454 --> 00:17:10,694 Speaker 1: a time for hubris, So I think it will be 331 00:17:10,854 --> 00:17:13,254 Speaker 1: the proof will be the pudding, obviously, and it's always 332 00:17:13,814 --> 00:17:17,694 Speaker 1: very easy to sort of ride back in to office 333 00:17:17,734 --> 00:17:19,814 Speaker 1: off the back of a massive win. But I think 334 00:17:19,894 --> 00:17:23,894 Speaker 1: the issues that may confront him will be some disgruntled 335 00:17:24,134 --> 00:17:27,454 Speaker 1: MPs that maybe have their noses and their jobs out 336 00:17:27,494 --> 00:17:31,694 Speaker 1: of joint after this caucus meeting, and that could lead 337 00:17:31,734 --> 00:17:34,534 Speaker 1: to a bit of discontent and that horrible thing that 338 00:17:34,574 --> 00:17:38,134 Speaker 1: they call leaking, which the politicians hate and the media love. 339 00:17:40,054 --> 00:17:42,214 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 340 00:17:42,294 --> 00:17:44,854 Speaker 3: us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano 341 00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:49,854 Speaker 3: and Claire Murphy.