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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fixed. I'm Laura Broadnak and today I am joined

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Speaker 2: by I'm Breathe Player.

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Speaker 1: I am the executive producer of Mama MIA's interview podcast,

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Speaker 1: No Filter, and I have fifteen years experience in women's magazines, and.

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Speaker 2: That is one of the many reasons, apart from the

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Speaker 2: fact that we love having you on the pod all

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Speaker 2: the time, that you're here today for this very important

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Speaker 2: episode that I feel like the Spill has been building

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Speaker 2: up to since we started, well over sixty years. It's

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Speaker 2: a legacy spilling, a legacy. I actually felt my apartments

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Speaker 2: shake this morning when I woke up, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: my God, is that an earthquake because I'm on a

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Speaker 2: fault line, But no, it was my whole earth shifting

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Speaker 2: because of Brooklyn Beckham's posts on his Instagram story about

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Speaker 2: his family today, laying there his version the behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes story of the whole Beckham family feud, completely shattering

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Speaker 2: their legacy and also touching on every point that I

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Speaker 2: think we've discussed on the Spill over the years and

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Speaker 2: giving us the real story. We obviously have a little

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Speaker 2: bit more context around some of the things he said.

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Speaker 2: We're going to fact check a few things. You have

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Speaker 2: some extra insight because you've interviewed Nikola before. Guys, stick around.

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Speaker 2: An explosive episode is coming your way. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm shaking just thinking about it. But

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Speaker 2: first we must touch on another scandal that blew up yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere in Nashville, in one of his many homes, in

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Speaker 2: maybe in his guitar room, Keith Urban is sitting there

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Speaker 2: and he is sending a prayer up to the gods.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Brooklyn Beckham for taking the spotlight off me. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: because on yesterday's show, we were talking about the fact

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Speaker 2: that there was this story, that it was only a

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Speaker 2: tabloid story, but it was being reported across every outlet,

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Speaker 2: people making tiktoks about people making videos. You could just

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Speaker 2: see paparazzi kind of on the streets trying to trail

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Speaker 2: news came out that Keith Urban had moved in with

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Speaker 2: country singer Carlie Scott Collins, who had opened for him

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Speaker 2: on his twenty twenty five High in a Live World tour,

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Speaker 2: and these stories came out that they were in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: She's twenty six, he's fifty eight, and they were living together,

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Speaker 2: and people were linking them being together almost to his

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Speaker 2: divorce from Nicole Kinmen, because the implication was that it

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Speaker 2: had started before him and a cologne. Yes, and we

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Speaker 2: were saying yes on the show, like we obviously didn't

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Speaker 2: know if it was true because there was no confirmed reports.

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Speaker 2: There weren't even any kind of like blurry pat pictures

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Speaker 2: often have when these stories blow up. It was just

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Speaker 2: a lot of speculation. But obviously there's heaps of photos

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Speaker 2: and footage of them together because they had too.

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Speaker 1: Together, and when you toured together, you're on the road

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Speaker 1: spending lots and lots of time together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So every single outlet who was reporting this

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Speaker 2: had said, we've reached out to their reps. They're not responding,

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Speaker 2: they're not responding. We always knew Keith wouldn't respond that

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Speaker 2: wild if he did, unless I guess someone was saying

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Speaker 2: something awful about his kids or his family or something.

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Speaker 2: I think he was just laying low. And I did

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Speaker 2: wonder whether Carly would respond just because we were saying

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Speaker 2: that when these stories break like people always attack the

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Speaker 2: young woman for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, absolutely, And and she has responded.

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Speaker 2: She has responded, So I'm assuming she turned down all

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Speaker 2: of the interview offers that were pouring in thick and fast,

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Speaker 2: and instead she went the old school route. She screenshot

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Speaker 2: one of the stories which had the headline Keith moved

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Speaker 2: in with Carlie Scott Collins's question mark. So I guess

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Speaker 2: she went through and she picked one that phrased it

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Speaker 2: said she screenshot that and across it in tex she wrote, y'all,

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely ridiculous and untrue. Sorry, can you do

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Speaker 2: that again? With the accent? I need national, Laura, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is I just something I had to do her

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Speaker 2: I obviously can't do because I'm from townslall and it

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Speaker 2: so a lot of publications, including people magazines, say they've

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Speaker 2: reached out to her comment further, and she has declined.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not doing an in depth interview. No,

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Speaker 2: although she's got a few albums out and she is

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Speaker 2: touring herself. So I mean, like, good on her for

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Speaker 1: She said what she wanted to say. It's short and sweet.

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Speaker 1: But this is like a lot of eyes on her.

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Speaker 1: This is a lot of people that could potentially tune

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And like the thing is, I never think

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Speaker 2: that most things that people think are a publicity stunt

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Speaker 2: are a publicity stunt, especially when people are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that four year relationship publicity stunt, And I was like,

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Speaker 2: they would barely do press for that movie. You think

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Speaker 2: they're dedicating four years of their life to keeping up

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Speaker 2: this whole thing of all families and travel involved and

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Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. Like guys, you don't actors

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Speaker 2: they're not doing that. I'm not saying she did this

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Speaker 2: as a publicity stunt, but if it was a publicity stunt,

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Speaker 2: if someone on her team kind of leaked this story

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Speaker 2: or just gave it like a little bit of breath

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Speaker 2: be the way to do a publicity stunt because it's

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Speaker 2: like burns fast and bright. She can say it's not true,

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Speaker 2: people will then know it's not true. But now everyone

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Speaker 2: knows her name and the names of her albums and

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Speaker 2: when she's touring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I had never heard.

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Speaker 2: Of her me neither. I'm not super across the country scene.

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Speaker 2: I think people who are in that space really know her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's got her name out there. Again. I'm not

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Speaker 2: if it was. But if it was, it's a great one.

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Speaker 2: It's a well orchestrated one because I feel like people

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Speaker 2: believe her. She's come out looking. Keith stayed out of

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Speaker 2: this and he's not winning the divorce as he's spoken

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Speaker 2: about before. But I feel like now everyone's just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this poor woman who was dragged into this and she's

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Speaker 2: just trying to be a country star, and like, let's

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Speaker 2: listen to her music.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like the Keith and Carly All Keith and.

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Speaker 2: Carlie on the road would watch. I totally would, so

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Speaker 2: this morning. I think everyone in Australia woke up to

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Speaker 2: I think a lot's been kind of put into like

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Speaker 2: Blessed that sweet boy. I'm assuming someone else did it.

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Speaker 2: And then it's gone through many eyes the way it's

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Speaker 2: been written, and I feel like this has been in

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Speaker 1: See I didn't feel that way really, Yeah, just because

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Speaker 1: there is so much there. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: been through a lot of eyes. Because something goes through

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's he did take some time to

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Speaker 2: Asking my question, the big question, big question. No, I

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Speaker 2: don't think it went through any like pr team eyes.

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Speaker 2: I mean like it's like Nicola Nicholas friends, potentially her

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Speaker 1: Just feels like it was like press press wipe.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, this just doesn't end it. It's

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Speaker 2: off with him saying, I have been silent for many

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Speaker 2: years and made every effort to keep these matters private. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: my parents and their team have continued to go to

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Speaker 2: the lies that they have printed. And then he then

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Speaker 2: went on to say, I do not want to reconcile

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Speaker 2: with my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up

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Speaker 2: for myself for the first time in my life. Bombshell already.

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Speaker 2: Bombshell already. I mean from the get go, he does

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Speaker 2: the Becking camp over the years, which is very much

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Speaker 2: like they're talking to him privately and like we're trying

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Speaker 2: Not at all? I think, I mean, I guess like

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Speaker 2: The fact that he keeps saying it's like quite a

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Speaker 2: making us look like the perfect family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's just because it was too far gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how it read to me.

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Speaker 2: Victorian David Beckham a just quite good at sidestepping a

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Speaker 2: their name over the years, from him cheating on her,

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Speaker 2: which has never just proven. They've sidestepped that, to the

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Speaker 2: fact that I think people have forgotten allegations of like

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Speaker 2: more cheating on his side that's been sidestepped, allegations they

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Speaker 2: them feuding over her business tanking and him having to

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Speaker 2: give her like all this extra money, how they've raised

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Speaker 2: their children, how she interacts with the Spice Girls and

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Speaker 2: their famous friends, Like they've been kind of involved in

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Speaker 2: a few different celib feuds. That's all been pushed away.

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Speaker 2: So I just thought they were so good at dancing

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Speaker 2: ones who have been pushing it into the spotlight. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The next slide gets more into their wedding. What surprised

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Speaker 2: about here on the spill, he is confirming, he's confirmed

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Speaker 2: so many rumors are true, which I mean, we'll get

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Speaker 2: Yes, she did look incredible. She looked incredible. I guess

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Speaker 1: People who definitely amongst that someone has footage. Yeah, so

431
00:20:21,434 --> 00:20:23,114
Speaker 1: I want to see that footage. Where are those five

432
00:20:23,154 --> 00:20:23,674
Speaker 1: hundred guests?

433
00:20:23,674 --> 00:20:24,234
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

434
00:20:24,354 --> 00:20:26,794
Speaker 1: I do know what the scenes would be like right

435
00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:30,914
Speaker 1: now in places like the Sun, the Daily Mail, all

436
00:20:30,954 --> 00:20:34,074
Speaker 1: those newsrooms are like, if anyone can.

437
00:20:33,914 --> 00:20:36,274
Speaker 2: Get this footage, you can have whatever you want.

438
00:20:36,754 --> 00:20:39,114
Speaker 1: You want, so like that is now the most wanted

439
00:20:39,154 --> 00:20:40,794
Speaker 1: footage to exist.

440
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:42,714
Speaker 2: Well, they stopped it coming out all these yase, I

441
00:20:42,754 --> 00:20:44,434
Speaker 2: mean they did. The thing is there weren't really any

442
00:20:44,514 --> 00:20:47,194
Speaker 2: leaks from inside the wedding, so maybe they confiscated phones

443
00:20:47,234 --> 00:20:50,273
Speaker 2: and stuff. Everything that came out was rumors, not photos

444
00:20:50,314 --> 00:20:51,354
Speaker 2: or footage or anything.

445
00:20:51,034 --> 00:20:52,994
Speaker 1: Like that has to exist, and like I need it

446
00:20:52,994 --> 00:20:54,394
Speaker 1: to I need I.

447
00:20:54,314 --> 00:20:57,274
Speaker 2: Need a waiter who was at Jennifer Lopez and Ben

448
00:20:57,274 --> 00:21:02,394
Speaker 2: Affleck's wedding and who secretly filmed her serenading him in

449
00:21:02,514 --> 00:21:05,354
Speaker 2: song that they were both later that was never meant

450
00:21:05,354 --> 00:21:07,074
Speaker 2: to be seen by the public eye. That's so embarrassing.

451
00:21:07,234 --> 00:21:08,994
Speaker 2: We hate you for that. And that person I believe

452
00:21:09,074 --> 00:21:11,394
Speaker 2: was fired enough. But also he had his movement in

453
00:21:11,394 --> 00:21:15,313
Speaker 2: the sun totally. So this again confirms a story that

454
00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:17,674
Speaker 2: had come out after the wedding, but the story that

455
00:21:17,674 --> 00:21:20,353
Speaker 2: came out was slightly different, So Mark Antony's name back

456
00:21:20,394 --> 00:21:23,313
Speaker 2: when they were married was thrown around. The story that

457
00:21:23,514 --> 00:21:26,714
Speaker 2: came out after the wedding was that the dance had

458
00:21:26,714 --> 00:21:29,594
Speaker 2: been interrupted in some way, but apparently it was meant

459
00:21:29,594 --> 00:21:31,914
Speaker 2: to be like a toast, which maybe when marc Antony

460
00:21:31,954 --> 00:21:36,154
Speaker 2: got to the stage and stopped the dance and introduced Victoria,

461
00:21:36,274 --> 00:21:38,954
Speaker 2: maybe he did say something then, and that's where the

462
00:21:38,994 --> 00:21:40,794
Speaker 2: toast story comes in. So the story that came out

463
00:21:40,874 --> 00:21:43,114
Speaker 2: the time was marc Antony got up on the stage,

464
00:21:43,154 --> 00:21:45,514
Speaker 2: he did a toast, he talked only about the Beckham

465
00:21:45,514 --> 00:21:49,234
Speaker 2: family and excluded Nicola during a pivotal part of the reception,

466
00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:51,514
Speaker 2: which could be the dance. And then the story went

467
00:21:51,554 --> 00:21:54,273
Speaker 2: after that that Nicola fled the room in tears and

468
00:21:54,354 --> 00:21:57,593
Speaker 2: was inconsolable, and that's one of the main stories. So

469
00:21:57,794 --> 00:22:01,553
Speaker 2: I think she probably saw Posh Spice grinding on her

470
00:22:01,594 --> 00:22:04,554
Speaker 2: husband on the dance floor, and that's why she fled

471
00:22:04,554 --> 00:22:06,474
Speaker 2: in tears and no one could get her to come

472
00:22:06,514 --> 00:22:09,314
Speaker 2: back and fair enough, fair enough.

473
00:22:09,634 --> 00:22:11,594
Speaker 1: Something they do want to point out as well, is

474
00:22:11,754 --> 00:22:17,154
Speaker 1: like Victoria was a spice girl. I loved the spice girls.

475
00:22:17,154 --> 00:22:19,354
Speaker 1: I grew up loving the spicy girls. I don't want

476
00:22:19,354 --> 00:22:23,833
Speaker 1: to like disparage what they achieved that, but one thing

477
00:22:23,874 --> 00:22:28,234
Speaker 1: I will say is that Victoria was not the strongest dancer.

478
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:31,234
Speaker 2: No, and she would tell you that too, So she

479
00:22:31,274 --> 00:22:34,794
Speaker 2: wasn't even grinding in a fun sexy way. That's why

480
00:22:34,794 --> 00:22:36,474
Speaker 2: they were always like when they did their big dances

481
00:22:36,554 --> 00:22:38,033
Speaker 2: or they come back to it, they're like, and then Victoria,

482
00:22:38,114 --> 00:22:40,634
Speaker 2: you do a catwalk, and then she would struck down

483
00:22:40,714 --> 00:22:43,114
Speaker 2: and do a pose and strut back, and then everyone

484
00:22:43,114 --> 00:22:43,794
Speaker 2: else would dance.

485
00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:46,114
Speaker 1: It was definitely right for her to move into fashion.

486
00:22:46,674 --> 00:22:48,434
Speaker 1: That was the right move for her. That's what she

487
00:22:48,754 --> 00:22:51,874
Speaker 1: contributed to the Spice Girls, because she also was not

488
00:22:51,914 --> 00:22:55,914
Speaker 1: the strongest singer. But that aside focusing on the dancing,

489
00:22:58,354 --> 00:23:04,194
Speaker 1: How was this inappropriate grinding on her son?

490
00:23:04,554 --> 00:23:08,794
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to see can take that. I were

491
00:23:08,914 --> 00:23:10,674
Speaker 2: just just in a quick defense of Victoria. She did

492
00:23:10,674 --> 00:23:12,954
Speaker 2: get the highest marks in the first Spy Skulls audition,

493
00:23:13,194 --> 00:23:17,674
Speaker 2: but I guess they were averaging singing, dancing, and stage presence,

494
00:23:17,714 --> 00:23:19,714
Speaker 2: and she sung a musical theater song instead of a

495
00:23:19,754 --> 00:23:20,234
Speaker 2: pop song.

496
00:23:20,474 --> 00:23:23,834
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's all of it relevant. I

497
00:23:23,874 --> 00:23:26,754
Speaker 1: was like, maybe her dancing was great, maybe maybe yes,

498
00:23:27,314 --> 00:23:28,194
Speaker 1: but history.

499
00:23:27,874 --> 00:23:30,114
Speaker 2: Tells us no. The thing is even just kind of

500
00:23:30,154 --> 00:23:32,634
Speaker 2: an interrupting a first dance, which was so many couples

501
00:23:32,674 --> 00:23:35,074
Speaker 2: at the reception. Is their really big moment when everyone

502
00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:38,234
Speaker 2: gathers around when he says, prep, do you think they

503
00:23:38,234 --> 00:23:39,434
Speaker 2: had one of those choreographed here?

504
00:23:40,434 --> 00:23:44,273
Speaker 1: Well? I think that they definitely did dance lessons for it,

505
00:23:44,474 --> 00:23:46,234
Speaker 1: which a lot of couples do. But also that they're

506
00:23:46,234 --> 00:23:47,674
Speaker 1: in front of five hundred people. They don't want to

507
00:23:47,674 --> 00:23:51,434
Speaker 1: make fours of themselves, so I'm sure that they did practice,

508
00:23:51,754 --> 00:23:55,874
Speaker 1: and it is like a moment. You know, what was

509
00:23:55,914 --> 00:23:59,394
Speaker 1: it that Mark said about Victoria Mark Antony?

510
00:23:59,954 --> 00:24:02,834
Speaker 2: Oh, do you mean from the rumor that came out. Yes,

511
00:24:03,234 --> 00:24:04,434
Speaker 2: this is the story that came out at the time.

512
00:24:04,474 --> 00:24:06,074
Speaker 2: That was the main kind of like, this is why

513
00:24:06,114 --> 00:24:08,914
Speaker 2: the wedding was the wedding from hell? Is that? Apparently

514
00:24:08,914 --> 00:24:12,114
Speaker 2: Mark Antony was talking about David in Victoria's love story

515
00:24:12,114 --> 00:24:14,033
Speaker 2: and how in love they are and how great the

516
00:24:14,114 --> 00:24:17,114
Speaker 2: family is and how much they love Brooklyn and just

517
00:24:17,234 --> 00:24:20,154
Speaker 2: never said anything about Nikola and was talking about them

518
00:24:20,194 --> 00:24:22,874
Speaker 2: being the big love story, which again maybe they just

519
00:24:22,874 --> 00:24:24,434
Speaker 2: say can you come up and introduce this song, and

520
00:24:24,474 --> 00:24:25,914
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I'll just say something quick about

521
00:24:25,954 --> 00:24:29,553
Speaker 2: my friends, not knowing what he had wrought the whole

522
00:24:30,194 --> 00:24:34,874
Speaker 2: wedding situation. So I heard some people also say that

523
00:24:34,914 --> 00:24:36,794
Speaker 2: like he had said some like not nice things about Nicola,

524
00:24:36,834 --> 00:24:38,554
Speaker 2: but I never thought that was true. That's a step

525
00:24:38,594 --> 00:24:41,314
Speaker 2: too far. This story is the believable one that the

526
00:24:41,394 --> 00:24:44,513
Speaker 2: dance was interrupted by a toast and apparently she didn't

527
00:24:44,514 --> 00:24:45,434
Speaker 2: come back to the reception.

528
00:24:45,994 --> 00:24:48,834
Speaker 1: It feels like she was just kind of omitted from

529
00:24:48,874 --> 00:24:49,594
Speaker 1: her own way.

530
00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:52,754
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact that that happened during the first dance,

531
00:24:52,914 --> 00:24:56,074
Speaker 2: which I didn't know. The thing is, every story that

532
00:24:56,114 --> 00:24:58,034
Speaker 2: we've heard over the years is all just falling into

533
00:24:58,074 --> 00:24:59,994
Speaker 2: place with like, oh my god, that wasn't a wild rumor,

534
00:25:00,034 --> 00:25:02,914
Speaker 2: it really happened. So then after the dancing thing where

535
00:25:02,954 --> 00:25:05,954
Speaker 2: Brooklyn said, I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in

536
00:25:05,994 --> 00:25:08,834
Speaker 2: my entire life. Both brother I just I got second

537
00:25:08,834 --> 00:25:12,273
Speaker 2: had embarrassment from that. He then said, which again we

538
00:25:12,434 --> 00:25:14,553
Speaker 2: also said was the story at the time. This is

539
00:25:14,594 --> 00:25:16,634
Speaker 2: crazy how he's just confirming. It's like he listened to

540
00:25:16,674 --> 00:25:18,793
Speaker 2: the spill ands like that happened, that happened, that happened, Yeah, yea,

541
00:25:18,874 --> 00:25:21,513
Speaker 2: yea yeah yeah. He said, we wanted to renew our

542
00:25:21,634 --> 00:25:24,394
Speaker 2: vows so we could create new memories of our wedding

543
00:25:24,514 --> 00:25:28,634
Speaker 2: day that brings us joy and happiness, not anxiety and embarrassment.

544
00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:30,834
Speaker 2: So when they had that huge and it wasn't just

545
00:25:30,954 --> 00:25:32,834
Speaker 2: they said it was a vour renule, but it looked

546
00:25:32,874 --> 00:25:33,674
Speaker 2: like a second wedding.

547
00:25:33,834 --> 00:25:36,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously it was a do over because the

548
00:25:36,474 --> 00:25:41,994
Speaker 1: first one was just absolutely marred with trauma and anxiety

549
00:25:42,114 --> 00:25:45,234
Speaker 1: and stress and was just not the day that they

550
00:25:45,354 --> 00:25:46,354
Speaker 1: had planned and hoped for.

551
00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:49,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, so at their vow annual it did again look

552
00:25:49,754 --> 00:25:51,994
Speaker 2: like a wedding like they had. The full reception afterwards

553
00:25:52,034 --> 00:25:54,714
Speaker 2: obviously wasn't as big. It looks like under one hundred people,

554
00:25:54,834 --> 00:25:57,954
Speaker 2: not five hundred. It was all her family, like Nicholas's family,

555
00:25:58,074 --> 00:26:01,114
Speaker 2: very predominantly should that beautiful dress on and a hair

556
00:26:01,194 --> 00:26:03,154
Speaker 2: sort of startup, and it was already flowery, kind of

557
00:26:03,154 --> 00:26:05,034
Speaker 2: looked maybe like what she had wanted if it wasn't

558
00:26:05,074 --> 00:26:09,194
Speaker 2: a huge society wedding. Yeah, and when those photos all

559
00:26:09,274 --> 00:26:10,874
Speaker 2: came out of their vour and neals, so many people

560
00:26:10,914 --> 00:26:13,074
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, rich people, which I also

561
00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:16,714
Speaker 2: think rich people just sometimes renew their vowels because why

562
00:26:16,794 --> 00:26:19,194
Speaker 2: not something to do. We've got time and money. What

563
00:26:19,274 --> 00:26:21,273
Speaker 2: else would you do but renew your vows constantly. But

564
00:26:21,434 --> 00:26:23,874
Speaker 2: there was something about this of her, like walking down

565
00:26:23,874 --> 00:26:26,194
Speaker 2: the aisle to him, and like them saying their vowels

566
00:26:26,314 --> 00:26:28,274
Speaker 2: and them and their way they posted about it felt

567
00:26:28,314 --> 00:26:30,234
Speaker 2: like their wedding day. So at the time we said,

568
00:26:30,594 --> 00:26:33,194
Speaker 2: we think this is a makeup wedding for the big

569
00:26:33,274 --> 00:26:35,674
Speaker 2: society wedding that ended in trauma, and this is what

570
00:26:35,714 --> 00:26:39,273
Speaker 2: they would say to people was their actual wedding. Yeah, Well,

571
00:26:39,354 --> 00:26:40,114
Speaker 2: I'm glad they did.

572
00:26:40,194 --> 00:26:42,434
Speaker 1: I think that's really nice because if the first one was,

573
00:26:42,554 --> 00:26:44,834
Speaker 1: you know, meant to be the happiest day of their

574
00:26:44,914 --> 00:26:49,034
Speaker 1: lives and it wasn't, and that was not through relationship

575
00:26:49,114 --> 00:26:51,954
Speaker 1: issues between the couple, So it's really sad that it

576
00:26:52,074 --> 00:26:53,314
Speaker 1: wasn't a nice day for them.

577
00:26:53,434 --> 00:26:54,513
Speaker 2: Yeah, and why they did it?

578
00:26:54,634 --> 00:26:54,754
Speaker 1: Do it?

579
00:26:54,914 --> 00:26:58,874
Speaker 2: That crazy multimillion dollar five day wedding. I think it

580
00:26:59,034 --> 00:27:02,114
Speaker 2: was five days of being at that wedding. If I

581
00:27:02,274 --> 00:27:03,994
Speaker 2: was a guest, my hands would have been shaking from

582
00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:05,914
Speaker 2: trauma at the end of that because I think we've

583
00:27:05,914 --> 00:27:08,434
Speaker 2: all been to an uncomfortable way oh yeah, where there's

584
00:27:08,514 --> 00:27:10,754
Speaker 2: like tension between the bride and groom most of them family, yes,

585
00:27:10,914 --> 00:27:13,594
Speaker 2: so many of them. I separate every wedding I've been to,

586
00:27:13,754 --> 00:27:15,674
Speaker 2: not by like the venue or the food and drink.

587
00:27:15,714 --> 00:27:18,554
Speaker 2: I'm like, were people angry or were people happy? And

588
00:27:19,034 --> 00:27:24,074
Speaker 2: it's surprisingly fifty to fifty down the middle. Yeah, before

589
00:27:24,114 --> 00:27:26,074
Speaker 2: we move on, we have to circle back.

590
00:27:26,114 --> 00:27:29,394
Speaker 1: One more thing about Marc Anthony was when he was.

591
00:27:29,474 --> 00:27:31,754
Speaker 2: Just such a bad day to be market again. He's

592
00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:33,754
Speaker 2: just like, I haven't been in the public eye like

593
00:27:33,834 --> 00:27:36,074
Speaker 2: this for decade since I broke up with j Lo,

594
00:27:39,434 --> 00:27:43,674
Speaker 2: leave me alone. But when he asked Brooklyn to come

595
00:27:43,714 --> 00:27:47,874
Speaker 2: on the stage and then announced inviting someone else up

596
00:27:47,914 --> 00:27:51,474
Speaker 2: onto the stage, the most beautiful woman in the room tonight,

597
00:27:51,834 --> 00:27:54,034
Speaker 2: Now one would assume he's talking about the bride, and

598
00:27:54,074 --> 00:27:56,074
Speaker 2: I'm sure Brooklyn assumed he was talking about the bride.

599
00:27:56,114 --> 00:27:59,394
Speaker 2: I'm sure the bride, of course he was talking about that.

600
00:27:59,434 --> 00:28:01,274
Speaker 2: That's when you get calling your wedding drone, no matter

601
00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,274
Speaker 2: what your dressing matter. Like everyone says you're the most

602
00:28:03,274 --> 00:28:05,194
Speaker 2: beautiful in the room because you're supposed to be, and

603
00:28:05,234 --> 00:28:08,554
Speaker 2: that's the fair thing. Yes, And to Nikola was she

604
00:28:08,674 --> 00:28:09,634
Speaker 2: looked gorgeous, she.

605
00:28:11,354 --> 00:28:13,674
Speaker 1: Looked incredible, She was the most beautiful woman in the

606
00:28:13,754 --> 00:28:17,074
Speaker 1: room that night. But no, instead it was come on up,

607
00:28:17,514 --> 00:28:18,354
Speaker 1: Victoria Becker.

608
00:28:18,914 --> 00:28:20,514
Speaker 2: And the thing is, like, I know, I was saying

609
00:28:20,554 --> 00:28:22,754
Speaker 2: that maybe this man didn't know the drama he was causing,

610
00:28:23,274 --> 00:28:26,634
Speaker 2: But how could you not how could you not read

611
00:28:26,754 --> 00:28:27,954
Speaker 2: social cues in that way?

612
00:28:28,114 --> 00:28:30,434
Speaker 1: I know that you don't say that at another woman's

613
00:28:30,474 --> 00:28:32,834
Speaker 1: wedding about another woman, especially the mother in law. So

614
00:28:32,914 --> 00:28:34,994
Speaker 1: sure your mother in law is posh spy could already

615
00:28:35,034 --> 00:28:36,714
Speaker 1: be feeling a little bit like there's a lot at

616
00:28:36,754 --> 00:28:39,234
Speaker 1: stake here, there's a lot going, Like her whole crew

617
00:28:39,354 --> 00:28:41,514
Speaker 1: is built on being the most stylish person in the room,

618
00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:42,954
Speaker 1: and that's my mother in law.

619
00:28:42,994 --> 00:28:46,034
Speaker 2: There's already a rookie road to walk without that. I mean,

620
00:28:46,274 --> 00:28:49,234
Speaker 2: no wonder she fled the room in tears. I wonder,

621
00:28:49,354 --> 00:28:51,194
Speaker 2: as I was saying before, like that story came out

622
00:28:51,234 --> 00:28:54,274
Speaker 2: that he had said disparaging marks about Nicola and that's

623
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,314
Speaker 2: why she ran out. And I think a lot of

624
00:28:56,354 --> 00:28:58,234
Speaker 2: people read that he had said something bad about her.

625
00:28:58,354 --> 00:29:00,674
Speaker 2: But I do think when people say disparaging or hurt

626
00:29:00,714 --> 00:29:03,194
Speaker 2: for remarks, that that was the hurt for remark. But

627
00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:04,914
Speaker 2: he didn't say she looked bad, because that is a

628
00:29:04,954 --> 00:29:07,594
Speaker 2: bit crazy. Yeah, I mean, no one, yeah, one would

629
00:29:07,594 --> 00:29:10,674
Speaker 2: say that that's just insane. That would have been like, yeah,

630
00:29:10,834 --> 00:29:13,314
Speaker 2: a much bigger story. But I think when people say

631
00:29:13,394 --> 00:29:16,114
Speaker 2: hurtful comments, that's what they're talking about, hurtful by admission.

632
00:29:16,314 --> 00:29:18,074
Speaker 1: I would think that hearing that, there would have been

633
00:29:18,154 --> 00:29:19,354
Speaker 1: five hundred jaws on the floor.

634
00:29:19,474 --> 00:29:21,874
Speaker 2: I'm sure there were. Well that's how this story got

635
00:29:21,914 --> 00:29:23,674
Speaker 2: out there. Otherwise, how does a huge story from a

636
00:29:23,754 --> 00:29:26,474
Speaker 2: celeb wedding so much drama happens at celeb weddings that

637
00:29:26,514 --> 00:29:29,594
Speaker 2: we never hear about because like they just like they

638
00:29:29,714 --> 00:29:33,034
Speaker 2: have their the circle is so tight and people just

639
00:29:33,074 --> 00:29:35,354
Speaker 2: don't leak information. But I think because this one was

640
00:29:35,434 --> 00:29:39,274
Speaker 2: so explosive and obviously, as I said before, it's interesting

641
00:29:39,434 --> 00:29:43,834
Speaker 2: how all the stories from Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltspeckham, like,

642
00:29:43,914 --> 00:29:46,154
Speaker 2: all the stories that post them in the best light,

643
00:29:46,314 --> 00:29:49,154
Speaker 2: all the stories that give context to why they've stopped

644
00:29:49,154 --> 00:29:51,034
Speaker 2: talking to his family are the ones that have come

645
00:29:51,074 --> 00:29:53,474
Speaker 2: out over the years, and now the ones we find

646
00:29:53,514 --> 00:29:56,354
Speaker 2: out are all true. Like that's crazy to have every

647
00:29:56,514 --> 00:30:00,394
Speaker 2: rumor be confirmed by him, confirmed by him, but like, yes,

648
00:30:00,714 --> 00:30:03,634
Speaker 2: that's still more than you see from any other celeb scandal.

649
00:30:04,114 --> 00:30:05,994
Speaker 2: And we're not even finishing. I were only halfway through

650
00:30:05,994 --> 00:30:09,714
Speaker 2: the slides, Buckaler, because it does get more intense. He's

651
00:30:09,834 --> 00:30:14,114
Speaker 2: now talking about David Beckham's infamous fiftieth birthday, which is

652
00:30:14,154 --> 00:30:16,954
Speaker 2: where up until then he does say in the slides,

653
00:30:17,034 --> 00:30:19,554
Speaker 2: we tried to be supportive of my family. We went

654
00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:21,594
Speaker 2: to fashion shows, we went to events, we showed up.

655
00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:24,674
Speaker 2: This is why those rumors about their wedding died down

656
00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:26,874
Speaker 2: a little bit. It was always floating in the background

657
00:30:26,954 --> 00:30:29,834
Speaker 2: got a little overshadowed by the lawsuit with the wedding

658
00:30:29,874 --> 00:30:32,834
Speaker 2: plan is, But after that we kept seeing photos of

659
00:30:32,954 --> 00:30:37,154
Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Nicola with his family. Nicola in particular seemed

660
00:30:37,154 --> 00:30:39,394
Speaker 2: to have a really close relationship with a lot of

661
00:30:39,474 --> 00:30:42,754
Speaker 2: his siblings, in particular Harper. They were also yet always

662
00:30:42,754 --> 00:30:45,674
Speaker 2: at events and things and like posing with Victoria and David,

663
00:30:45,874 --> 00:30:47,514
Speaker 2: and so a lot of people thought like, maybe something

664
00:30:47,594 --> 00:30:50,514
Speaker 2: rocky happened around the wedding, but they've put on such

665
00:30:50,514 --> 00:30:52,674
Speaker 2: a public face that we've forgotten about it that people

666
00:30:52,714 --> 00:30:56,354
Speaker 2: assumed it has exactly so. It wasn't until David's fiftieth

667
00:30:56,434 --> 00:30:59,274
Speaker 2: birthday that stories of a rift really took hold, and

668
00:30:59,354 --> 00:31:01,714
Speaker 2: he talks about it in his statements. So Brooklyn writes

669
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:05,714
Speaker 2: that my wife has been consistently disrespected by my family,

670
00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:08,714
Speaker 2: no matter how hard we tried to come together as one.

671
00:31:09,114 --> 00:31:10,834
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is another thing was to skip over.

672
00:31:11,194 --> 00:31:14,474
Speaker 2: My mum has repeatedly invited women from my past into

673
00:31:14,554 --> 00:31:17,114
Speaker 2: our lives in ways that were clearly intended to make

674
00:31:17,234 --> 00:31:21,554
Speaker 2: us both uncomfortable. Who yeah, who well, I mean, he's

675
00:31:21,554 --> 00:31:23,914
Speaker 2: got a few famous girlfriends, right, but he's also dated

676
00:31:23,994 --> 00:31:25,754
Speaker 2: a few like influences.

677
00:31:26,154 --> 00:31:28,594
Speaker 1: I remember when he was with Chloe Grace Morett. That's

678
00:31:28,634 --> 00:31:31,714
Speaker 1: why they did photo shoot for teen Vogue and the

679
00:31:32,234 --> 00:31:35,714
Speaker 1: issue came out at the exact same time that their

680
00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:38,314
Speaker 1: breakup was announced. Yeah, and that was this issue on

681
00:31:38,394 --> 00:31:40,714
Speaker 1: Newsstance and it was a great shoot. I worked in

682
00:31:40,754 --> 00:31:43,074
Speaker 1: teen Mags at the time, so that all over, it

683
00:31:43,354 --> 00:31:47,154
Speaker 1: all over. It very very important story in my career.

684
00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:50,354
Speaker 1: But yeah, so there was Chloe Grace Morett, so who's very.

685
00:31:50,234 --> 00:31:52,314
Speaker 2: Happily married to her wife now more that I most

686
00:31:52,434 --> 00:31:54,354
Speaker 2: mostly just think about that stunning wedding dress that she

687
00:31:54,514 --> 00:31:56,714
Speaker 2: wore and have sweet their wedding walls. Good style on

688
00:31:56,714 --> 00:31:58,954
Speaker 2: her wedding day is exactly great style on her wedding day.

689
00:31:58,994 --> 00:32:00,994
Speaker 2: That's how we can tell She's probably like, don't put

690
00:32:01,034 --> 00:32:04,834
Speaker 2: my wife and I into this crazy story. So yeah,

691
00:32:04,874 --> 00:32:06,874
Speaker 2: he and he's obviously dated a few women that are

692
00:32:06,874 --> 00:32:08,514
Speaker 2: sort of not as much in the public eye. So

693
00:32:08,514 --> 00:32:10,834
Speaker 2: I'm wonder, like, what has been Victoria been doing inviting

694
00:32:10,914 --> 00:32:12,794
Speaker 2: them over when David cooks that chicken outside in that

695
00:32:12,914 --> 00:32:15,554
Speaker 2: outdoor kitchen and they just rock up it awkward.

696
00:32:15,794 --> 00:32:19,674
Speaker 1: Ye, I mean, it all indicates and this is obviously

697
00:32:19,874 --> 00:32:23,674
Speaker 1: we've heard this from from Brooklyn, but it sort of

698
00:32:23,794 --> 00:32:25,594
Speaker 1: sounds like she didn't want to lose her boy.

699
00:32:25,674 --> 00:32:27,674
Speaker 2: She doesn't want a boy to be married to anyone. Yeah,

700
00:32:27,754 --> 00:32:29,274
Speaker 2: but I also, yeah, it doesn't want to be married

701
00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:30,154
Speaker 2: to anyone, but like the.

702
00:32:30,194 --> 00:32:34,994
Speaker 1: First dancing kind of not welcoming the wife into the family,

703
00:32:36,074 --> 00:32:39,194
Speaker 1: bringing in girls from the past. It's very sabotage.

704
00:32:39,434 --> 00:32:40,954
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I guess they did get married when he

705
00:32:41,074 --> 00:32:42,674
Speaker 2: was quite young, but I don't know. It just feels

706
00:32:42,714 --> 00:32:45,514
Speaker 2: like this is like full on, like if this is

707
00:32:45,514 --> 00:32:47,314
Speaker 2: all to be believed, And obviously this is his side

708
00:32:47,314 --> 00:32:49,874
Speaker 2: of the story. I'm sure Victoria and David and their

709
00:32:49,994 --> 00:32:52,314
Speaker 2: kids and their family would tell a different side of it,

710
00:32:52,794 --> 00:32:56,754
Speaker 2: it does feel like it's like full on sabotage in

711
00:32:56,834 --> 00:32:59,234
Speaker 2: law stuff. Yeah, like stuff you would only read about it,

712
00:32:59,274 --> 00:33:01,434
Speaker 2: you only see him like, yeah, like a crazy romcom

713
00:33:01,474 --> 00:33:05,194
Speaker 2: from the nineties and early two thousands. It also just

714
00:33:05,394 --> 00:33:07,354
Speaker 2: all looks like it would damage their brand and in

715
00:33:07,474 --> 00:33:10,794
Speaker 2: such a huge way that whatever happened behind the scenes,

716
00:33:10,874 --> 00:33:13,274
Speaker 2: they must have decided that it was almost worth it

717
00:33:13,394 --> 00:33:15,874
Speaker 2: to enact all this crazy sabotage and have like this

718
00:33:16,074 --> 00:33:19,154
Speaker 2: huge far at the wedding and have these differences behind

719
00:33:19,194 --> 00:33:21,434
Speaker 2: the scenes, knowing that eventually it could come out and

720
00:33:21,514 --> 00:33:23,714
Speaker 2: make them look bad. And again, so much of their

721
00:33:23,794 --> 00:33:26,354
Speaker 2: brands like we're the perfect couple, and we're the perfect family,

722
00:33:26,354 --> 00:33:29,554
Speaker 2: and we're stylish and fun and that's why people like them.

723
00:33:29,834 --> 00:33:33,914
Speaker 2: So then after the bringing old girlfriends over stuff, Brooklyn rites.

724
00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:37,074
Speaker 2: Despite this, we traveled to London for my dad's birthday

725
00:33:37,154 --> 00:33:39,234
Speaker 2: and were rejected for a week. As we waited in

726
00:33:39,314 --> 00:33:42,434
Speaker 2: our hotel room trying to plan quality time with him,

727
00:33:42,874 --> 00:33:45,154
Speaker 2: he refused all our attempts unless it was at his

728
00:33:45,274 --> 00:33:47,874
Speaker 2: big birthday party with one hundred guests and cameras at

729
00:33:47,914 --> 00:33:50,594
Speaker 2: every corner. When he finally agreed to see me, it

730
00:33:50,714 --> 00:33:53,594
Speaker 2: was under the condition that Nikola wasn't invited. It was

731
00:33:53,634 --> 00:33:56,194
Speaker 2: a slap in the face. Later, my family traveled to

732
00:33:56,394 --> 00:33:58,394
Speaker 2: la where they refused to see me at all because

733
00:33:58,434 --> 00:34:01,154
Speaker 2: they live in Miami. They live between Miami and London. Yeah.

734
00:34:01,754 --> 00:34:04,274
Speaker 1: When I read that, I had this vision of I mean,

735
00:34:04,314 --> 00:34:05,914
Speaker 1: I don't know which hotel it is yet, I just

736
00:34:06,034 --> 00:34:10,314
Speaker 1: imagined Nicola and Brooklyn hold up in like the penthoustic clarages. Yeah,

737
00:34:12,714 --> 00:34:19,314
Speaker 1: just all these room service croissans and things sitting untouched untouched. Well,

738
00:34:19,354 --> 00:34:23,234
Speaker 1: they paced, and I just imagine Brooklyn pacing Nicholas sitting

739
00:34:23,234 --> 00:34:25,394
Speaker 1: there kind of I don't know, like picking her nails

740
00:34:25,394 --> 00:34:28,554
Speaker 1: because staring at the window forlornly.

741
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:31,594
Speaker 2: Yes, because the thing is like, again, you can, if

742
00:34:31,634 --> 00:34:33,554
Speaker 2: you have enough money and know how, you can get

743
00:34:33,554 --> 00:34:36,114
Speaker 2: around a city like that without being seen. But because

744
00:34:36,154 --> 00:34:38,594
Speaker 2: it was such a huge thing that was David Beckham's fiftieth,

745
00:34:38,794 --> 00:34:40,954
Speaker 2: the party was happening, there were so many celebs in

746
00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:43,794
Speaker 2: town for it. Everyone was going. If they were seen

747
00:34:43,914 --> 00:34:46,234
Speaker 2: in town anyway, they're seen out at.

748
00:34:46,234 --> 00:34:51,194
Speaker 1: Like restaurants down at you know, grading down Mayfair, dinners

749
00:34:51,234 --> 00:34:51,953
Speaker 1: and everything.

750
00:34:51,634 --> 00:34:55,114
Speaker 2: And they're not exactly exactly would have just made the

751
00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:57,954
Speaker 2: whole story worse. So I do believe his story that

752
00:34:57,994 --> 00:35:00,234
Speaker 2: they flew to London and then were just shut up

753
00:35:00,234 --> 00:35:02,554
Speaker 2: in their hotel room for a week. And the story

754
00:35:02,594 --> 00:35:05,994
Speaker 2: that came out at the time was that they had

755
00:35:06,074 --> 00:35:09,354
Speaker 2: not attended the party beca they were feuding because Romeo

756
00:35:09,554 --> 00:35:13,674
Speaker 2: Beckham's girlfriend had dated Brooklyn at the time. Oh my god,

757
00:35:13,794 --> 00:35:14,914
Speaker 2: bringing back past girlfriends.

758
00:35:14,954 --> 00:35:18,234
Speaker 1: It's awful, it's falling into place, and they had said.

759
00:35:18,114 --> 00:35:22,514
Speaker 2: It was inappropriate it was a girlfriend. Yeah, but pr

760
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:25,514
Speaker 2: for the family. I know, yeah, exactly paid in like

761
00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:27,994
Speaker 2: Victoria Beckham gowns for the rest of her life for

762
00:35:28,114 --> 00:35:30,393
Speaker 2: showing up. So the story that came out was that

763
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:32,754
Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Nikola had refused to go to the party

764
00:35:32,834 --> 00:35:36,194
Speaker 2: because the girlfriend was there. And this is the only

765
00:35:36,274 --> 00:35:39,874
Speaker 2: time I feel like Victoria and David were maybe leaking

766
00:35:39,954 --> 00:35:42,994
Speaker 2: there side of the story, and their leak overtook the

767
00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:47,114
Speaker 2: Brooklyn leak, because the Brooklyn leak was that what we're

768
00:35:47,154 --> 00:35:49,754
Speaker 2: hearing now that they weren't invited, they weren't welcome, and

769
00:35:49,874 --> 00:35:52,274
Speaker 2: the David in Victoria leak at the time was that

770
00:35:52,554 --> 00:35:55,434
Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Nichola were being difficult refusing to come to

771
00:35:55,514 --> 00:35:58,274
Speaker 2: the party and refusing to see the whole family, and

772
00:35:58,354 --> 00:35:59,994
Speaker 2: that David put his foot down and he's like, you

773
00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:02,714
Speaker 2: come to the family celebration or you don't come. We're

774
00:36:02,714 --> 00:36:05,834
Speaker 2: a family or we're not. And so that was why

775
00:36:05,954 --> 00:36:08,433
Speaker 2: the picture that David Becka can post it afterwards whenber

776
00:36:08,474 --> 00:36:12,154
Speaker 2: he posts that fishing photo with Romeo which is the

777
00:36:12,194 --> 00:36:14,474
Speaker 2: middle son, Romeo Beckham, and Cruise Beckham, which is the

778
00:36:14,514 --> 00:36:17,834
Speaker 2: younger son, with a caption that read, the only thing

779
00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:20,714
Speaker 2: I wanted for my birthday was a fishing trip and

780
00:36:20,794 --> 00:36:23,154
Speaker 2: a camping trip with my sons, and I'm so happy

781
00:36:23,234 --> 00:36:26,914
Speaker 2: it happened. And everyone's like, but Brooklyn's not there. I

782
00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:29,714
Speaker 2: have another son, I think later on, like he posted

783
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:31,873
Speaker 2: like a throwback of Brooklyn. Like he and Victoria so

784
00:36:32,034 --> 00:36:35,033
Speaker 2: online that whenever they sort of get called out for something,

785
00:36:35,114 --> 00:36:37,993
Speaker 2: they often like somehow kind of slip in another photo

786
00:36:38,074 --> 00:36:40,114
Speaker 2: or slip in a tag or slip in something. But

787
00:36:40,354 --> 00:36:42,674
Speaker 2: it was the first very pointed moment where everyone was

788
00:36:42,754 --> 00:36:45,634
Speaker 2: like they weren't the birthday, they haven't sort of like

789
00:36:45,754 --> 00:36:47,674
Speaker 2: taken part in any of the celebrations, And now he's

790
00:36:47,674 --> 00:36:49,514
Speaker 2: posting a photo with my son saying like this is

791
00:36:49,514 --> 00:36:51,034
Speaker 2: all I wanted was to be with my family in

792
00:36:51,114 --> 00:36:53,074
Speaker 2: Brooklyn's not there. It was the first time that was

793
00:36:53,114 --> 00:36:55,674
Speaker 2: really cemented and now we're hearing Brooklyn's like full side

794
00:36:55,674 --> 00:36:56,114
Speaker 2: of the story.

795
00:36:56,634 --> 00:37:00,354
Speaker 1: It's actually just really sad, sad because like, what did

796
00:37:00,474 --> 00:37:03,194
Speaker 1: David and Victoria want? Why are they so online?

797
00:37:03,194 --> 00:37:05,473
Speaker 2: Why do they care? Well, I just feel like something

798
00:37:05,794 --> 00:37:07,794
Speaker 2: the thing is, there's always a bigger hab lists for this,

799
00:37:07,954 --> 00:37:09,473
Speaker 2: like and it's probably a build up, like maybe there's

800
00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:12,154
Speaker 2: maybe there was friction, maybe they just hate Nikola. Maybe

801
00:37:12,154 --> 00:37:14,634
Speaker 2: they think that she's ruining their son and controlling her.

802
00:37:14,714 --> 00:37:16,794
Speaker 2: Maybe she's been rude to them, like we just don't know.

803
00:37:17,394 --> 00:37:19,754
Speaker 2: Or maybe she came in perfectly pleasant and they turned

804
00:37:19,754 --> 00:37:21,674
Speaker 2: against her, and they would have turned against anyone in

805
00:37:21,714 --> 00:37:24,234
Speaker 2: that situation. Like That's the thing we'll never know because

806
00:37:24,314 --> 00:37:27,594
Speaker 2: each side is like so sticking to their story unless

807
00:37:27,634 --> 00:37:29,354
Speaker 2: like a whole bunch of like phone calls and text

808
00:37:29,394 --> 00:37:31,074
Speaker 2: messages get leaked and we can like hear some of

809
00:37:31,114 --> 00:37:33,873
Speaker 2: the conversations for ourselves. It's kind of hard to know.

810
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,834
Speaker 2: But like, over the years, apart from the fact that

811
00:37:36,874 --> 00:37:39,114
Speaker 2: people have said she's pulled this adult man away from

812
00:37:39,154 --> 00:37:42,194
Speaker 2: his family, none of the charges against Nikola have stuck,

813
00:37:42,234 --> 00:37:45,394
Speaker 2: whereas all of the rumors against Victoria and David have stuck.

814
00:37:45,954 --> 00:37:48,154
Speaker 2: And he addressed this so then Brooklyn went on to say,

815
00:37:48,394 --> 00:37:51,474
Speaker 2: the narrative that my wife controls me is completely backwards.

816
00:37:51,874 --> 00:37:54,393
Speaker 2: I have been controlled by my parents for most of

817
00:37:54,474 --> 00:37:58,074
Speaker 2: my life. I grew up with overwhelming anxiety for the law.

818
00:37:58,354 --> 00:38:00,553
Speaker 2: I feel bad for him for the first time my life.

819
00:38:00,674 --> 00:38:03,514
Speaker 2: Since stepping away from the family, that anxiety has disappeared,

820
00:38:03,554 --> 00:38:05,513
Speaker 2: and I wake up every morning grateful for the life

821
00:38:05,554 --> 00:38:08,834
Speaker 2: I chose and have found peace and relief. My wife

822
00:38:08,914 --> 00:38:11,234
Speaker 2: and I do not want a life shaped by image,

823
00:38:11,274 --> 00:38:14,634
Speaker 2: press or manipulation. All we want is peace, privacy, and

824
00:38:14,754 --> 00:38:17,754
Speaker 2: happiness for us and our future family. If they drop

825
00:38:17,794 --> 00:38:22,433
Speaker 2: a pregnancyne out something right now, I'm gonna die, they

826
00:38:22,474 --> 00:38:23,674
Speaker 2: would hold hold onto that.

827
00:38:24,674 --> 00:38:28,114
Speaker 1: Oh look, I'm so glad he addressed that, because I

828
00:38:28,194 --> 00:38:30,114
Speaker 1: think that was a really important point to make, and

829
00:38:30,194 --> 00:38:34,194
Speaker 1: I think during the whole story, from start to finish,

830
00:38:34,674 --> 00:38:37,354
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's annoyed me the most. Really commentary

831
00:38:37,394 --> 00:38:40,994
Speaker 1: around her being controlling. Yeah, that he is also just

832
00:38:41,114 --> 00:38:46,314
Speaker 1: this like useless guy that's got no sense of He

833
00:38:46,474 --> 00:38:49,794
Speaker 1: does present, he.

834
00:38:50,514 --> 00:38:54,154
Speaker 2: Cannot take a photo, he cannot cook. I do think

835
00:38:54,794 --> 00:38:57,074
Speaker 2: it's not I'm just saying his past career endeavors are

836
00:38:57,194 --> 00:38:59,873
Speaker 2: not helping in this situation. The fact that he tried

837
00:38:59,914 --> 00:39:01,553
Speaker 2: to be a chef, couldn't be a chef, The fact

838
00:39:01,594 --> 00:39:03,474
Speaker 2: that he has launched businesses but doesn't seem to be

839
00:39:03,514 --> 00:39:05,634
Speaker 2: across what they are. The fact that everyone thought he

840
00:39:05,754 --> 00:39:08,393
Speaker 2: was addressing all the stories about him and then said

841
00:39:08,394 --> 00:39:09,794
Speaker 2: I didn't get the joke, And the fact that he

842
00:39:09,874 --> 00:39:11,553
Speaker 2: tried to be a photographer and can't take a photo.

843
00:39:11,794 --> 00:39:14,954
Speaker 2: The funny This is not funny. The funniest thing that

844
00:39:15,034 --> 00:39:19,274
Speaker 2: I've seen today is not funny. Trash. You know how

845
00:39:19,754 --> 00:39:22,873
Speaker 2: he really sat photography book? Yes, and every obviously I

846
00:39:22,954 --> 00:39:24,754
Speaker 2: want to come on that book. Oh my god, we

847
00:39:24,834 --> 00:39:28,514
Speaker 2: had a copy in the Dolly office. I don't know

848
00:39:28,554 --> 00:39:30,554
Speaker 2: who has it now, but I will find out. I

849
00:39:30,674 --> 00:39:32,794
Speaker 2: have referenced that book then more than any other text

850
00:39:32,874 --> 00:39:36,034
Speaker 2: in the world over the years. He's like, welling, imagine

851
00:39:36,154 --> 00:39:38,314
Speaker 2: that's my It was like, hey, who needs a laugh,

852
00:39:38,434 --> 00:39:42,794
Speaker 2: Let's let's look through the book this. There's famously a

853
00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:45,914
Speaker 2: picture in there that he took. He flew to like

854
00:39:46,154 --> 00:39:49,994
Speaker 2: this safari spot and took a photo of an elephant,

855
00:39:50,114 --> 00:39:54,034
Speaker 2: and the elephant was right there. Elephants it's and it's huge,

856
00:39:54,794 --> 00:39:57,514
Speaker 2: and he somehow missed the shot. You can't see the

857
00:39:57,554 --> 00:40:00,554
Speaker 2: elephants in complete darkness. And the caption he wrote was

858
00:40:00,674 --> 00:40:04,154
Speaker 2: beautiful hard to photograph. Everyend's like it's a non moving

859
00:40:04,234 --> 00:40:07,034
Speaker 2: object that standing in front of you in broad daylight

860
00:40:07,194 --> 00:40:09,114
Speaker 2: and you have the world's most expensive camera. How did

861
00:40:09,114 --> 00:40:12,754
Speaker 2: you miss it? Also? Why did it make the cut?

862
00:40:14,234 --> 00:40:15,914
Speaker 2: But when you see the other photos, like the blurry

863
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:18,874
Speaker 2: dinner table, You're like, it was the better shot. So anyway,

864
00:40:18,954 --> 00:40:21,393
Speaker 2: people are showing that today, being like it's time to

865
00:40:21,434 --> 00:40:22,834
Speaker 2: talk about the elephant in the room on or we

866
00:40:22,874 --> 00:40:28,033
Speaker 2: can't because we can't see it. And I was like, okay,

867
00:40:28,114 --> 00:40:30,674
Speaker 2: so kicking his body, he's already dead, Yeah, Brooklyn Beckham,

868
00:40:30,754 --> 00:40:32,114
Speaker 2: leave him alone, leave him Okay.

869
00:40:32,314 --> 00:40:35,314
Speaker 1: But it did piss me off that there is the

870
00:40:35,674 --> 00:40:37,634
Speaker 1: like the manipulaity of Therman narrative.

871
00:40:38,074 --> 00:40:40,873
Speaker 2: It's so annoying. It's also like, why is that the

872
00:40:40,954 --> 00:40:41,234
Speaker 2: go to?

873
00:40:42,034 --> 00:40:44,474
Speaker 1: It's always I'm so glad he addressed it.

874
00:40:44,634 --> 00:40:46,994
Speaker 2: You can't pull an adult away from their family and

875
00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:48,913
Speaker 2: less part of them wants to do unless they want

876
00:40:48,954 --> 00:40:53,154
Speaker 2: to go. Obviously, keeping aside like physical manipulation and all

877
00:40:53,194 --> 00:40:55,474
Speaker 2: those sorts of things, and people saying like she's tricked

878
00:40:55,514 --> 00:40:57,234
Speaker 2: him away from his family, all that sort of stuff.

879
00:40:57,234 --> 00:40:59,074
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's a grown adult man. I know he

880
00:40:59,114 --> 00:41:01,594
Speaker 2: doesn't present his one, but he is a grown adult man.

881
00:41:01,674 --> 00:41:04,274
Speaker 2: And like, you can't force an adult to cut tires

882
00:41:04,354 --> 00:41:07,474
Speaker 2: with their like famous rich family just because you're famous

883
00:41:07,554 --> 00:41:09,714
Speaker 2: rich family like puts pressure on you, like whether he's

884
00:41:09,954 --> 00:41:12,274
Speaker 2: it's the right one or not, it's ultimately his decision

885
00:41:12,474 --> 00:41:15,754
Speaker 2: exactly exactly, just absolutely crazy. And then the other part

886
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,554
Speaker 2: about like it's almost like he's senten on Victoria a

887
00:41:18,674 --> 00:41:21,194
Speaker 2: lot more and painted her as the manipulator and the

888
00:41:21,274 --> 00:41:23,714
Speaker 2: master mind behind it all. Like often he's like separate

889
00:41:23,794 --> 00:41:26,314
Speaker 2: from like the wedding stuff, but like my mother did this,

890
00:41:26,514 --> 00:41:29,314
Speaker 2: My mother has done that, Like he's really centering Victoria

891
00:41:29,394 --> 00:41:32,154
Speaker 2: as the one who has caused this whole friction and

892
00:41:32,314 --> 00:41:34,354
Speaker 2: who has been like the one going to the press,

893
00:41:34,394 --> 00:41:36,514
Speaker 2: the one who he says, turn my brothers against me.

894
00:41:36,714 --> 00:41:39,794
Speaker 2: Because obviously Cruz was the first one to post anything

895
00:41:39,874 --> 00:41:42,834
Speaker 2: about this when he posts that story to his Instagram

896
00:41:43,314 --> 00:41:46,354
Speaker 2: saying that Brooklyn had blocked the family. My parents would

897
00:41:46,474 --> 00:41:48,914
Speaker 2: never do that, And now in his statement Brooklyn is

898
00:41:48,954 --> 00:41:52,074
Speaker 2: saying that the parents forced the brothers to block them

899
00:41:52,234 --> 00:41:55,194
Speaker 2: Instagram just tears people apart. And then he also Brooklyn

900
00:41:55,274 --> 00:41:58,474
Speaker 2: included that part where he said Victoria called Nikola and

901
00:41:58,514 --> 00:42:01,274
Speaker 2: I evil because we wanted our grandmothers to sit at

902
00:42:01,274 --> 00:42:04,074
Speaker 2: the wedding table and our parents would be on adjacent tables.

903
00:42:04,154 --> 00:42:07,714
Speaker 1: Such an interesting yeah, like for her to pay evil

904
00:42:07,794 --> 00:42:09,554
Speaker 1: for wanting the grandparents to sit there.

905
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:13,554
Speaker 2: The grandmother's yes, they were without their husband. Yes, that

906
00:42:13,714 --> 00:42:16,393
Speaker 2: is so weird. I want more context to that. Yeah,

907
00:42:16,674 --> 00:42:19,393
Speaker 2: it just sounds like this wedding just like one of

908
00:42:19,434 --> 00:42:21,393
Speaker 2: the wedding planets are like where we can't do this,

909
00:42:21,634 --> 00:42:23,634
Speaker 2: this is crazy, and they sued them for not like

910
00:42:23,834 --> 00:42:26,634
Speaker 2: finalizing the job and letting things fall apart. They're probably

911
00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:30,433
Speaker 2: getting calls from Nicola, getting calls from Victoria, getting calls

912
00:42:30,434 --> 00:42:33,274
Speaker 2: from Nicholas billionare Dad getting called from Marc Anthony apparently he's.

913
00:42:33,114 --> 00:42:38,514
Speaker 1: Involved, Like, just like, no, wonder they were soartied. I

914
00:42:38,554 --> 00:42:41,434
Speaker 1: wonder if they're still wedding planners gone.

915
00:42:41,274 --> 00:42:44,913
Speaker 2: And like someone really like lovely. I wonder if they're

916
00:42:44,954 --> 00:42:46,514
Speaker 2: just also looking at this stay and being like, we

917
00:42:46,714 --> 00:42:49,674
Speaker 2: feel so vindicated because we said this was crazy and

918
00:42:49,834 --> 00:42:52,114
Speaker 2: terrible and no one believed us and it really truly.

919
00:42:52,154 --> 00:42:54,274
Speaker 2: I wonder if they were the links. I'm not starting anything.

920
00:42:54,394 --> 00:42:58,154
Speaker 2: I'm just saying all these perfect stories, all these like

921
00:42:58,354 --> 00:43:02,873
Speaker 2: almost word perfect stories from this celeb wedding link someone did.

922
00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:08,154
Speaker 1: I'm not saying with them they're obviously ligitious, but I'm

923
00:43:08,234 --> 00:43:14,154
Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, someone a waiter or someone or photographer's assistant,

924
00:43:14,274 --> 00:43:16,514
Speaker 1: Like if it wasn't their circle of friends, someone has

925
00:43:16,554 --> 00:43:18,474
Speaker 1: been doing the rounds over the years because.

926
00:43:18,434 --> 00:43:20,393
Speaker 2: Make Anthony sound guy who knows.

927
00:43:20,674 --> 00:43:23,994
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I want Mark Anthony to release the statement.

928
00:43:23,994 --> 00:43:27,873
Speaker 1: Where's Hetty Jennifer Lopez on the phone. He's like, I

929
00:43:27,954 --> 00:43:29,354
Speaker 1: know it's not my weekend with the kids, but I

930
00:43:29,474 --> 00:43:31,393
Speaker 1: just you're really good at crisis management, and I do

931
00:43:31,554 --> 00:43:32,314
Speaker 1: need you to step in.

932
00:43:32,834 --> 00:43:35,114
Speaker 2: And I do believe Jennifer Lopez would fix this situation.

933
00:43:35,634 --> 00:43:37,953
Speaker 2: She's good at Pierre. She is good at Pierre. Get

934
00:43:37,994 --> 00:43:40,993
Speaker 2: her on the phone, and so that is where we've

935
00:43:41,114 --> 00:43:44,354
Speaker 2: left it. It just goes on to say that basically

936
00:43:44,474 --> 00:43:47,714
Speaker 2: they've completely cut ties with the family. They wake up

937
00:43:47,794 --> 00:43:50,154
Speaker 2: every day so happy they're away from that. A lot

938
00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:52,754
Speaker 2: of the slides feel like it's coming from Nikola and him.

939
00:43:53,194 --> 00:43:55,794
Speaker 2: The last slide where he talks about I'm finally free,

940
00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:58,834
Speaker 2: I finally escaped. I feel different, I feel at peace.

941
00:43:59,154 --> 00:44:01,674
Speaker 2: And this kind of resolution feels like it's just written

942
00:44:01,714 --> 00:44:05,194
Speaker 2: by Brooklyn and it's giving Prince Harry. It is absolutely

943
00:44:05,274 --> 00:44:08,674
Speaker 2: and every interview he's given, yes, absolutely that idea of

944
00:44:08,754 --> 00:44:11,474
Speaker 2: like I found peace, I found sanctuary. Like its almost

945
00:44:11,474 --> 00:44:14,393
Speaker 2: like they're speaking after this returning home from you know,

946
00:44:14,554 --> 00:44:16,754
Speaker 2: some sort of traumatic voyage and like an old timy

947
00:44:16,834 --> 00:44:18,794
Speaker 2: novel or something like that, like I've come to a

948
00:44:18,834 --> 00:44:20,594
Speaker 2: place of peace and that's where he's left it.

949
00:44:20,794 --> 00:44:23,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, both families are their own version

950
00:44:23,714 --> 00:44:28,914
Speaker 1: of British Royalty and had that situation where the family

951
00:44:29,394 --> 00:44:32,674
Speaker 1: is a brand and a business, which like that's not

952
00:44:32,874 --> 00:44:34,074
Speaker 1: a normal family dynamic.

953
00:44:34,354 --> 00:44:37,074
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's so interesting that we've been given this

954
00:44:37,194 --> 00:44:39,354
Speaker 2: crazy insight, not only as you just saying, like these

955
00:44:39,434 --> 00:44:43,314
Speaker 2: two famous families, but these two families who, especially Nicholas family,

956
00:44:43,434 --> 00:44:46,154
Speaker 2: like old money like kind of like you know, wealthy

957
00:44:46,274 --> 00:44:50,234
Speaker 2: beyond like a normal Hollywood standards, totally standard and sold

958
00:44:50,274 --> 00:44:54,954
Speaker 2: the Beckhams exactly, yeah, exactly, they're like, well, buy Victoria

959
00:44:55,034 --> 00:44:57,074
Speaker 2: that can then sell it off for parts. Don't tempt us.

960
00:44:57,794 --> 00:44:59,714
Speaker 2: So where do you think this is going to go next?

961
00:44:59,794 --> 00:45:01,514
Speaker 2: That's the question. I have a theory.

962
00:45:01,634 --> 00:45:04,473
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah, There's only one thing I think that's

963
00:45:04,554 --> 00:45:06,554
Speaker 1: left to happen, and that is for Brian Murphy to

964
00:45:06,634 --> 00:45:11,114
Speaker 1: make a oh yes, to make his next few season

965
00:45:11,554 --> 00:45:12,274
Speaker 1: the Beckhams.

966
00:45:12,594 --> 00:45:15,994
Speaker 2: Ryan Murphew loves it, especially like the Hollywood American drama.

967
00:45:16,834 --> 00:45:19,034
Speaker 2: Usually he waits like a few decades for it too.

968
00:45:19,114 --> 00:45:22,474
Speaker 2: But we can't we can't wait, we can't wait. Cancel everything.

969
00:45:22,594 --> 00:45:25,714
Speaker 2: Cancel American Love Story, and everything else got cancel, I mean,

970
00:45:25,754 --> 00:45:30,114
Speaker 2: definitely cancel American Love Story. And let's just get straight

971
00:45:30,154 --> 00:45:32,473
Speaker 2: down to business with the because I want to see

972
00:45:32,714 --> 00:45:36,354
Speaker 2: the wedding episode. Nikola wants to play herself. It's been

973
00:45:36,434 --> 00:45:38,714
Speaker 2: so long since she's had a good part. And that's fine.

974
00:45:38,754 --> 00:45:39,514
Speaker 2: She can play herself.

975
00:45:39,554 --> 00:45:41,354
Speaker 1: I think it's probably best if Brooklyn doesn't.

976
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:42,794
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. I mean, I do have a

977
00:45:42,834 --> 00:45:45,074
Speaker 2: bit of empathy for that girl, especially because it's like

978
00:45:45,474 --> 00:45:48,474
Speaker 2: she obviously loves this sweet, dumb guy and now his

979
00:45:48,594 --> 00:45:50,754
Speaker 2: family's giving her so much grief, and she's just trying

980
00:45:50,794 --> 00:45:52,393
Speaker 2: to make it as an actress and director. Remember she

981
00:45:52,514 --> 00:45:54,994
Speaker 2: directed a movie, Yeah, Lola, and yeah, have you seen it?

982
00:45:55,354 --> 00:45:55,393
Speaker 1: No?

983
00:45:55,554 --> 00:45:57,033
Speaker 2: I haven't, but I haven't. It didn't get a wife,

984
00:45:57,034 --> 00:45:57,434
Speaker 2: really no.

985
00:45:57,594 --> 00:46:01,834
Speaker 1: But I did talk to her extensively about it. I'm

986
00:46:01,874 --> 00:46:04,714
Speaker 1: really across it, and she tried to give Brooklyn It's

987
00:46:04,754 --> 00:46:06,754
Speaker 1: like a small part and he had one line and

988
00:46:06,754 --> 00:46:09,393
Speaker 1: he could do it. He had to say high, I think,

989
00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:11,873
Speaker 1: but he couldn't time it up with she told this story,

990
00:46:11,994 --> 00:46:14,154
Speaker 1: not anyone else. He couldn't time it with walking and

991
00:46:14,234 --> 00:46:16,994
Speaker 1: looking into the camera and saying his line, and so eventually,

992
00:46:17,114 --> 00:46:17,994
Speaker 1: after like hours.

993
00:46:17,794 --> 00:46:19,714
Speaker 2: Of shooting, she's like, we have to move on, and

994
00:46:19,834 --> 00:46:23,154
Speaker 2: he wasn't in the movie. So she's dealing with that.

995
00:46:24,554 --> 00:46:27,474
Speaker 1: She's really tried with the Beckham really, do you know,

996
00:46:27,994 --> 00:46:30,274
Speaker 1: She's like, if anyone's tried, I have tried with these people.

997
00:46:30,474 --> 00:46:32,154
Speaker 1: I do think like this whole thing about her being

998
00:46:32,194 --> 00:46:35,554
Speaker 1: a diva or whatever, like those rumors, a diva wouldn't

999
00:46:35,594 --> 00:46:37,674
Speaker 1: have said yes in the first place to wearing the

1000
00:46:37,794 --> 00:46:40,194
Speaker 1: mother in law's wedding dress design. You know, they would

1001
00:46:40,234 --> 00:46:41,834
Speaker 1: have been like, I'm wearing this, like I've got this

1002
00:46:41,914 --> 00:46:44,434
Speaker 1: long standing relationship with this designer, this is what I

1003
00:46:44,474 --> 00:46:47,954
Speaker 1: want to wear. We're wearing classic houses, which Victoria Beckham

1004
00:46:47,994 --> 00:46:50,674
Speaker 1: more successful now and more accepted by fashion now, but

1005
00:46:50,834 --> 00:46:53,274
Speaker 1: not seen as one of the classic fashion houses that

1006
00:46:53,394 --> 00:46:55,194
Speaker 1: you would choose to make your wedding dress if you

1007
00:46:55,234 --> 00:46:56,354
Speaker 1: were a billionaire.

1008
00:46:55,954 --> 00:46:58,514
Speaker 2: Heiress who was also a Hollywood actress.

1009
00:46:58,674 --> 00:47:00,474
Speaker 1: Valentino was actually much more suitable.

1010
00:47:00,754 --> 00:47:03,034
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember when her billionaire dad was fighting

1011
00:47:03,074 --> 00:47:05,794
Speaker 2: with the wedding plan and he was like, love the

1012
00:47:05,874 --> 00:47:11,154
Speaker 2: way it's so important the billionaire, Dad the billionaire. I

1013
00:47:11,234 --> 00:47:13,033
Speaker 2: love it. I just it's so important that they don't

1014
00:47:13,034 --> 00:47:14,953
Speaker 2: have any other features to me, except like that tells

1015
00:47:14,994 --> 00:47:16,354
Speaker 2: you everything you need to know, because you know there

1016
00:47:16,394 --> 00:47:19,554
Speaker 2: are no good billionaires. He was like, my daughter world

1017
00:47:19,674 --> 00:47:22,954
Speaker 2: renowned actress and then listed some of her parts and

1018
00:47:22,994 --> 00:47:25,234
Speaker 2: I was like, so, I wouldn't be bringing up the

1019
00:47:25,394 --> 00:47:27,754
Speaker 2: movie she's been in, because apart from her role in

1020
00:47:27,794 --> 00:47:31,794
Speaker 2: Baits Motel, everything she's done has been critically panned, and

1021
00:47:32,314 --> 00:47:35,993
Speaker 2: her in particular has been critically panned. So again, apart

1022
00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:39,154
Speaker 2: from Baits Motel, which allegedly she asked to leave or

1023
00:47:39,194 --> 00:47:41,074
Speaker 2: something like that, and everyone's like, this is the one

1024
00:47:41,154 --> 00:47:42,993
Speaker 2: good thing you've done, but she was, she wasn't the star,

1025
00:47:43,434 --> 00:47:46,634
Speaker 2: and it wasn't a blockbuster. Again, that's scandal. Maybe that's

1026
00:47:46,674 --> 00:47:49,554
Speaker 2: been planted by the Beckhams to make her look difficult.

1027
00:47:49,594 --> 00:47:51,994
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm questioning everything. I just think this

1028
00:47:52,074 --> 00:47:54,714
Speaker 2: is going to have far reaching implications, obviously just not

1029
00:47:54,834 --> 00:47:57,474
Speaker 2: for them as a family, but it has kind of,

1030
00:47:57,514 --> 00:48:01,354
Speaker 2: as we said, completely dispelled the whole mythology they've built

1031
00:48:01,354 --> 00:48:04,393
Speaker 2: around their family and their brand. And now just think

1032
00:48:04,434 --> 00:48:07,074
Speaker 2: about like when they post family photos which they do

1033
00:48:07,314 --> 00:48:10,034
Speaker 2: a lot, especially Victoria, post a lot of David and

1034
00:48:10,074 --> 00:48:11,514
Speaker 2: the kids and that sort of thing, and then she

1035
00:48:11,674 --> 00:48:14,234
Speaker 2: posts her her brands that she wants you to buy,

1036
00:48:14,394 --> 00:48:16,274
Speaker 2: and a lot of it is like people buy into

1037
00:48:16,354 --> 00:48:21,033
Speaker 2: her lifestyle because she's both unattainable and attainable because she's

1038
00:48:21,074 --> 00:48:23,393
Speaker 2: a high luxury rich as a spice girl. But at

1039
00:48:23,394 --> 00:48:24,674
Speaker 2: the end of the day, she's like, I'm just hanging

1040
00:48:24,674 --> 00:48:26,674
Speaker 2: out with my husband on the couch and like singing

1041
00:48:26,754 --> 00:48:28,714
Speaker 2: with our kids. On that video, it's like, you know,

1042
00:48:28,914 --> 00:48:30,754
Speaker 2: like playing guitar with my kids and singing and like

1043
00:48:30,834 --> 00:48:32,834
Speaker 2: playing with them and like hugging Harper and telling her

1044
00:48:32,914 --> 00:48:35,794
Speaker 2: she's beautiful. No matter, that's very much their brand. And

1045
00:48:35,914 --> 00:48:37,674
Speaker 2: how do you post that now without a flood of

1046
00:48:37,754 --> 00:48:40,474
Speaker 2: comments being like, you guys are awful, You've done this

1047
00:48:40,554 --> 00:48:42,954
Speaker 2: to your son, Your family is fractured. How do they

1048
00:48:42,994 --> 00:48:45,074
Speaker 2: go and do interviews for press, which I know don't

1049
00:48:45,114 --> 00:48:47,634
Speaker 2: do a lot of interviews, but with brands and things like,

1050
00:48:47,714 --> 00:48:50,473
Speaker 2: how do they do collaborations, how do they do magazine covers?

1051
00:48:50,474 --> 00:48:52,873
Speaker 2: How do they go to events? They obviously would tell

1052
00:48:52,874 --> 00:48:54,754
Speaker 2: everyone don't ask us about that, but how do you

1053
00:48:54,834 --> 00:48:58,594
Speaker 2: not do press around that? And the same for Nicola

1054
00:48:58,714 --> 00:49:01,873
Speaker 2: and Brooklyn, Like this is down forever, completely tied to

1055
00:49:01,994 --> 00:49:03,953
Speaker 2: their brand, and I understand why they wanted to put

1056
00:49:03,954 --> 00:49:06,913
Speaker 2: their statement out there, but now everything they do, if

1057
00:49:06,954 --> 00:49:08,914
Speaker 2: she does, makes more movies, and they do press for that.

1058
00:49:09,034 --> 00:49:11,873
Speaker 2: He does press for like his many brands, whichever I

1059
00:49:11,994 --> 00:49:13,994
Speaker 2: think he's going to start next. Like, it's just like

1060
00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:16,114
Speaker 2: they put themselves in a situation where this will always

1061
00:49:16,154 --> 00:49:17,914
Speaker 2: be the center of their story and how do you

1062
00:49:17,954 --> 00:49:19,913
Speaker 2: build a brand off that. I don't think their brands

1063
00:49:19,954 --> 00:49:21,834
Speaker 2: will tank or anything like that, but it has. They

1064
00:49:21,874 --> 00:49:25,954
Speaker 2: have put themselves in like a very unfavorable position across

1065
00:49:25,994 --> 00:49:28,674
Speaker 2: the board for people who live in the public eye.

1066
00:49:28,874 --> 00:49:31,873
Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan must be thrilled that. Yeah, well, as

1067
00:49:31,954 --> 00:49:34,914
Speaker 2: we know, Harry and Meghan allegedly have been having dinners

1068
00:49:34,954 --> 00:49:39,234
Speaker 2: and get together by Brooklyn and a lot in common. Yeah,

1069
00:49:39,394 --> 00:49:42,034
Speaker 2: because famously the Beckhams chose William and Kate in the

1070
00:49:42,074 --> 00:49:45,634
Speaker 2: whole situation. So, oh my god, Nicola comes out as

1071
00:49:45,674 --> 00:49:48,474
Speaker 2: a spokesman woman for Meghan's brand, They do a podcast,

1072
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Speaker 2: they do a movie. I would I would love that.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see an episode with Love Meghan

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Speaker 1: where Brooklyn and nicholaever, and you know they make like

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Speaker 1: little mimosas and whatever together and sprinkle flower sell out

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Speaker 1: of that Caesar salad. All.

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Speaker 2: Netflix wasn't going to a vive with love Meghan, but

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Speaker 2: now they're just like get the fire. Now that's really going.

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Speaker 2: So that's how we end this. I know we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this intensely, but I do feel bad for Frount involved,

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Speaker 2: because a family rift, whether you're poor or rich or anything,

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Speaker 2: is pretty terrible. Oh it's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 1: And no one sets out with a family and with

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Speaker 1: plants like that, and no one goes into a marriage wanting.

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Speaker 2: It to be like yeah, exactly, and especially being in

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Speaker 2: the public eye, how much this will like drag on

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Speaker 2: and follow them forever. Even if they reconcile and they

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Speaker 2: post photos and videos and they do it docu series together,

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Speaker 2: this will always follow them in such an intense way.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like most heartened to see from the whole thing, though,

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Speaker 1: is that there's clearly a lot of love there between

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Nikola, and I think that's really I.

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Speaker 2: Think I'm on board. I don't think I was ever

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Speaker 2: off board with them. I don't know what I've done

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Speaker 2: this podcast the last six years. But they do seem

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Speaker 2: to have really like filmed each other someone clear all

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Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, all the times I've said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I've been supporting that poor sweet boys. I've always called

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Speaker 2: him from the start, and I've never I don't like

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Speaker 2: to have favorites, but I have one of the record

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Speaker 2: saying he is my favorite NEPO baby just because he

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Speaker 2: brings us so much joy. I love that with everything

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Speaker 2: he's done, I now enjoy that boy has brought me

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Speaker 2: more than people I know in my own life with

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Speaker 2: his various endeavors, and he never says anything bad at

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Speaker 2: it anyone. He just always seems to be so just

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Speaker 2: confused about where he is and what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say, from the twenty five minutes

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Speaker 1: that I spent talking to Nikola like, I thought she

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Speaker 1: was really sweet and funny and self deprecating.

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Speaker 2: And both had a lot of bad interviews. So just

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Speaker 2: because it's an interview doesn't mean they're going to be

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Speaker 2: nice to you. It absolutely doesn't. So no, I thought

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Speaker 2: she was really sweet. Yeah, Well, we'll keep you updated

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Speaker 2: if this story progresses further, which I'm sure it will

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Speaker 2: get away.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be more things that come out.

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Speaker 1: Please please, if only one thing comes out.

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Speaker 2: Let it be video Victoria. Oh my god, please let

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Speaker 2: that come out. Everyone in the world will put our

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Speaker 2: money into like one pot and what's got that video?

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Speaker 2: You can have that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this very important

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Speaker 2: episode of The Spills Shay, and thank you brief for

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Speaker 2: joining us for this journey. I'm going to say it

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Speaker 2: was such a journey. Thank you for having me. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back in your feed tomorrow morning at seven am

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Speaker 2: with Morning Tea hosted by the brilliant Ash London. The

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Speaker 2: Spill is produced by Manisha Eswarren with sound production by

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Speaker 2: Scott Stronik. Bye Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners

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Speaker 2: of the land. We have recorded this podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Gadigol people of the Oronation. We pay our respects to

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Speaker 2: their elders past and present, and extend that respect to

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Speaker 2: all Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander cultures.