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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mumma mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is mummy's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. In some good news, ozzies are set to

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Speaker 2: get at least three hours of free solar power, even

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Speaker 2: if you've never laid eyes on a solar panel. The

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Speaker 2: plan is being hailed as a cost of living lifeline,

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Speaker 2: just as the National Party abandons Australia's net zero target.

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Speaker 3: So can free energy really save us on power bills?

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Speaker 2: And what does it actually mean for the planet. Plus

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Speaker 2: one of those beautiful stories where love and technology collide.

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Speaker 3: There's a new way to hack dating.

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Speaker 2: It involves retraining your app algorithms. A few of my

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Speaker 2: colleagues volunteered as tribute today. We'll check in on their

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Speaker 2: experiment before we get there. Here's Claire Murphy with the

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Speaker 2: latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Wednesday, November five.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor, Arise. Sir David Beckham, King Charles officially knighted

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Speaker 1: David Beckham overnight for his services to sport in charity.

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Speaker 1: The former England soccer player posted on social media. I

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Speaker 1: can't even begin to describe what a special day it

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Speaker 1: is for me today a boy born in East London

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Speaker 1: to receive a knighthood from His Majesty the King. I

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Speaker 1: am truly humbled and so grateful for this honor. His parents,

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Speaker 1: three of his four children, and wife Victoria Beckham was

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Speaker 1: standing by watching the honor be bestowed on the now

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Speaker 1: Sir David, his son Cruz commenting on his post simply

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Speaker 1: Sir Dad. Australian Security Intelligence Organization Director General Mike Burgess

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Speaker 1: has revealed that an assassination attempt on Australian soil is

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Speaker 1: to assassination attempts and said ASIO was working around the

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Speaker 1: clock against these threats. He did not name any nations,

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Speaker 1: but Burgess pointed to Way's regimes have already taken nime

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Speaker 1: at Australia, such as Iran hiding its involvement in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four fire bombings at Melbourne's at As Synagogue

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Speaker 1: and Sydney's Lewis Continental Kitchen by using a complex web

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Speaker 1: of cutouts that may have not even known they were

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Speaker 1: receiving instructions from the Islamic Revolution Guard corps as also

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Speaker 1: uncovered links between pro Russia influences in Australia and an

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Speaker 1: offshore media organization that almost certainly receives orders from Russian intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Another foreign intelligence service, which has claimed it does not

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Speaker 1: spy on Australia, try to recruit Australians to gather information

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Speaker 1: on the economy, critical minerals, and the country's nuclear submarine

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Speaker 1: agreement with the US and UK. It even set up

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Speaker 1: face to face meetings with an Australian in a third

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Speaker 1: country before Azio intervened. Burgess says Australia has never faced

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Speaker 1: so many different threats at scale at once, and that

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Speaker 1: the foreign actors are eroding Australia's social cohesion from AFAR.

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Speaker 1: While authorities in France continue to search for the missing

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Speaker 1: Crown jewels stolen from the Louver last month in Paris,

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Speaker 1: a reporter has revealed just how lacking the museum's security

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Speaker 1: which was LOUVER in capital letters. Two of the four

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Speaker 1: criminals who managed to pull off a major heist, or

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Speaker 1: as they fled, but that they are incredibly attractive young men,

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Speaker 1: many comparing them to Jeremy Meeks, an American man who

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Bailey has been named People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive.

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Speaker 1: Bailey said of his new title that it's a huge honor.

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Speaker 1: He's incredibly flattered and it's completely absurd. He says he's

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Speaker 1: glad he can also finally share the secret with his

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Speaker 1: it for a while, saying some of them will be

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Speaker 1: with delight. Bailey is about to embark on the press

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Speaker 2: For Good, Thanks Clan. Next, Free Power, New Politics, and

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Speaker 2: why solar is suddenly Everyone's business. Starting July next year,

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Speaker 2: millions of Australians from New South Wales to Southeast Queensland

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Speaker 2: and South Australia will be offered at least three hours

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Speaker 2: is calling it the Solar Sharer Offer.

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Speaker 3: It works like this. If you have a smart meter,

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Speaker 3: and most of.

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Speaker 2: Us do, you'll get access to zero cost electricity during

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Speaker 2: designated hours, likely midday, when the grid is swimming in

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Speaker 2: cheap surplus solar. That means you can schedule your washing,

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Speaker 2: no package required, saving households up to eight hundred bucks

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Speaker 2: each year based on government figures. Even those of us

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Speaker 2: renting will benefit, not just the homeowners. The government says

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Speaker 2: the aim is to shift energy use from expensive, strained

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Speaker 2: Energy Minister Chris Bowen says it'll help lower bills, support

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Speaker 4: So if you're in a position to run your washing

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Speaker 4: that helps us with the grid at night too, because

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Speaker 4: it means transferring the use of power from nighttime, when

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Speaker 4: it's being run by In new words, you know a

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Speaker 2: Of course US criticism isn't far behind. The Australian Energy

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Speaker 2: Council accuse the government of failing to consult with industry

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Speaker 2: Others worry about how the energy companies will adapt and

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Speaker 2: if free daytime power will impact the overall bill for

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Speaker 2: households who can't shift their energy use aka those of

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Speaker 2: time to run the dishwasher and don't forget the broader context.

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Speaker 2: As the National Party abandons and at zero, the federal

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Speaker 2: government is leaning even harder into renewables like solar as

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Speaker 2: the main tool to reduce carbon emissions. Without these sun

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Speaker 2: more mainstream. Industry advocates call this an energy justice move,

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Speaker 2: meaning it makes the benefits of solar available to everyone,

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Speaker 3: The sun doesn't send you a bill.

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Speaker 2: And from next year neither should you energy company, well,

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Speaker 2: at least not for those three golden hours. And if

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Speaker 3: Are you on the apps? Look, I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Excuse myself right now from knowing anything about dating apps

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Speaker 2: or dating in twenty twenty five in general.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those loved up, engaged people, but I

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Speaker 3: For those of you out there.

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Speaker 2: Looking for a good time for a long time, this

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Speaker 2: dating app pack might just be the thing you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: It's called rose Jail, and I'm not going to pretend

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Speaker 2: I know what that means. Luckily, two of my colleagues

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Speaker 3: Analytes and Jess. Welcome. Jess.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to need you to do basically all of

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Speaker 2: the heavy lifting here. Explain to us what rose jail

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Speaker 2: is and how do we, I want to say, break

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Speaker 5: So anyone that has been on Hinge will know that

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Speaker 5: all of the best and most compatible matches are hidden

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Speaker 5: in what we.

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Speaker 6: Like to call rose jail.

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Speaker 5: So these are the people that you could only see

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Speaker 5: if you send them a rose, and you only get

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Speaker 5: one rose per week, and sending a rose is just desperado, like,

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Speaker 5: you don't do that, it's a no no.

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Speaker 7: But also you can send more roses, but you've got

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Speaker 7: to pay exactly.

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Speaker 6: But also when you're saying the.

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Speaker 7: Best matches, what she's really saying is the hottest I was.

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Speaker 5: Trying to be politically correct and nice. The hotties are

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Speaker 5: in jail and you cannot let them out unless you pay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so then what's the hack then, Because it sounds

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Speaker 2: to me like there's a way to jail break the hotties.

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Speaker 3: There is.

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Speaker 5: It requires a little bit of admin.

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Speaker 7: Admin I would say arguably far too much admin.

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Speaker 5: The basic premise is to start your hinge profile from scratch.

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Speaker 6: So start fresh, restart an entire new profile.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, and you do it at noon on

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Speaker 5: a Sunday. That is where everyone is sad and desperate

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Speaker 5: it's the most active time for the app. Then here's

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Speaker 5: the key. You have to pay fifty dollars to boost

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Speaker 5: your profile to everyone for twenty four hours, and that

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Speaker 5: means that more people will see your profile, it will

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Speaker 5: appear in their feeds, and hopefully you'll get more matches.

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Speaker 7: But the tricky thing is then after that twenty four

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Speaker 7: person in Rose Jail, which is the standout feed, and

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Speaker 7: you have to say no to every single person in

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Speaker 7: just your regular swipey feed. So that is like the

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Speaker 7: admin part, and you've got to do that for seven days.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of rejection. You say no for seven

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Speaker 5: Days of saying no.

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Speaker 7: So basically you're trying to tell Hinge that you're really

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Speaker 7: fussy and really desirable. So then the thought is that

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Speaker 7: the algorithm will go, oh wow, this person's like Primo,

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Speaker 7: and so then you become almost like rose Jail.

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Speaker 5: We are the rose gl you know, and we already

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Speaker 5: knew that anyway, didn't we any this?

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Speaker 6: I mean, don't need to have to teach that.

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Speaker 5: Essentially, the way that Hinge and dating algorithms work is

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Speaker 5: that you need to teach it what you like and

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Speaker 5: what you don't like. And by holding back and by

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Speaker 5: rejecting everyone, Hinge kind of goes, I don't know what

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Speaker 5: you like, so let me just feed you out to

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Speaker 5: more and more people and hopefully one of these many

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Speaker 5: many men will be the man of your dreams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds like you just said so much, Admin.

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Speaker 2: And then also it must be really hard and at

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Speaker 2: least to be getting all these pings for a week straight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've boosted yourself in that algorithm and you

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Speaker 7: The people that matched with us. So the way Hinge works,

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Speaker 7: it's not like you both got a swipe. You can

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Speaker 7: send a like and then you'll appear in someone's feed.

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Speaker 7: So at the end of the super boost and the

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Speaker 7: I'd match back with them. Yes, the super boost worked,

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Speaker 6: I rejected all of mine and she had like four

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Speaker 5: There was like four hundred and twenty nine. That sounds

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Speaker 6: Because they weren't great and we paid.

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Speaker 5: And I've spent a lot of money on Hinge that week.

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Speaker 2: Just you're fifty dollars in the hole and you've had

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 5: I was happy to write this hack off after we

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Speaker 5: did it for a week, I was like, nap, I'm

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to kiss and tell, but like,

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Speaker 5: there have been some matches, there have been some dates,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, maybe it did work after all, at least.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, because after the experiment I deleted

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Speaker 7: it because it was like over exposure therapy and I

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Speaker 7: got so over the admin of it. And you know me, Taylor,

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Speaker 7: I hate admin. It was too much for me. I

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Speaker 8: I'm you're making me sound like I'm desperate, desperate, But

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Speaker 8: if you are genuinely like wanting to meet someone and

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Speaker 8: can tweak it so that it aligns you with better matches.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's all subjective, right, Adalie's.

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Speaker 2: And then you're here for a good time, not a

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean you said a good time Taylor.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's a time at least.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a good time antally.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm not looking for anything serious, so it's

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Speaker 2: The two of you have thoroughly documented this over on

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Speaker 2: the mum of Mere website. I'm going to pop a

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Speaker 2: the both of you. Before I let you go, though

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Speaker 5: Look, I don't like telling people to fork out fifty

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Speaker 5: as we've said, if you are willing to put the

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Speaker 7: If you don't mind spending a lot of time on apps,

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this feels really bad.

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Speaker 7: So you've got to be very disciplined to be able

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Speaker 7: for seven days. Like I mean, it's willpower, it's time,

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Speaker 7: it's admin. But you know, it's all about the dedication

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Speaker 7: and as we've discovered, I have none, and you.

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Speaker 3: Kind of fomo by the sounds of it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the whole thing's been quite traumatic. I'll speaking to

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Speaker 5: Look, we are nothing if not serious journalists, and we

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Speaker 5: took this assignment extremely seriously and I'm just be continued on.

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Speaker 5: So this is a year long journalistic endeavor for Yes.

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Speaker 7: And I think next our next, because they want us

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Speaker 7: good at them. There's a Tinder one where you can

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Speaker 6: So I'm open for that.

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Speaker 3: As long as Jess you.

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Speaker 6: Handle all of the admin and matching, I'll rock up

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Speaker 6: to the date.

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Speaker 5: You know what, if there are two men out there

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