1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:22,785 Speaker 1: recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink with 4 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:26,385 Speaker 1: seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 5 00:00:26,665 --> 00:00:28,945 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 6 00:00:29,025 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: for fashion. 7 00:00:31,145 --> 00:00:34,065 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 8 00:00:34,145 --> 00:00:38,385 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 9 00:00:38,425 --> 00:00:41,265 Speaker 1: and every week I talk to an expert who helps 10 00:00:41,305 --> 00:00:43,065 Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the 11 00:00:43,065 --> 00:00:46,065 Speaker 1: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 12 00:00:46,185 --> 00:00:50,865 Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. Picture this, It's 13 00:00:50,985 --> 00:00:54,785 Speaker 1: thirty five degrees outside, the sun is blazing, and the 14 00:00:54,865 --> 00:00:57,105 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is put on anything 15 00:00:57,225 --> 00:01:01,985 Speaker 1: remotely resembling officewear. But some people do work in a 16 00:01:02,025 --> 00:01:05,465 Speaker 1: corporate environment and a little tiny mini cotton dress I 17 00:01:05,465 --> 00:01:08,305 Speaker 1: ain't gonna cut it. So today's guest is here to 18 00:01:08,385 --> 00:01:10,985 Speaker 1: save us from all those what do I wear? Summer 19 00:01:11,025 --> 00:01:15,785 Speaker 1: mornings when you're heading to work? Meet Virginia Jenkins aka 20 00:01:15,945 --> 00:01:19,105 Speaker 1: v By day, she's the competition lawyer, and by night 21 00:01:19,465 --> 00:01:22,425 Speaker 1: or whenever she has a spare moment, She's on Instagram 22 00:01:22,465 --> 00:01:26,905 Speaker 1: and TikTok posting about her effortlessly chic office ready outfits, 23 00:01:27,465 --> 00:01:30,625 Speaker 1: with over eighty five thousand Instagram followers hanging on her 24 00:01:30,665 --> 00:01:34,065 Speaker 1: every post. They look to V for practical inspiration on 25 00:01:34,105 --> 00:01:37,985 Speaker 1: how to dress chic in an arguably not very chic environment. 26 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:41,625 Speaker 1: The office then add heat to the problem. So in 27 00:01:41,665 --> 00:01:43,705 Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to talk about how to curate 28 00:01:43,705 --> 00:01:46,345 Speaker 1: a summer work where Wardrobe and her go to tricks 29 00:01:46,345 --> 00:01:48,345 Speaker 1: for staying polished in the middle of a heat wave. 30 00:01:48,745 --> 00:01:51,345 Speaker 1: My friend V, who I see at the occasional event. 31 00:01:51,425 --> 00:01:54,025 Speaker 1: I'm excited I've roped you into the studio. I don't 32 00:01:54,065 --> 00:01:56,945 Speaker 1: know how you fit it in your schedule. But new 33 00:01:56,985 --> 00:02:00,065 Speaker 1: guests answer a couple of questions before we get into 34 00:02:00,105 --> 00:02:03,785 Speaker 1: the topics. So please, can you describe your style in 35 00:02:03,905 --> 00:02:04,585 Speaker 1: three words? 36 00:02:04,705 --> 00:02:08,425 Speaker 2: Three words? Well? I did a lot of reading to 37 00:02:08,465 --> 00:02:11,145 Speaker 2: determine my three words, and it was like a real 38 00:02:11,225 --> 00:02:14,265 Speaker 2: serious thing on the internet. I even bought Amy Smileovig's 39 00:02:14,265 --> 00:02:17,425 Speaker 2: book The Creative Pragmatis. Yeah. I adore her and Alison 40 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:19,345 Speaker 2: Bornstein's Where It Well, and I read it because I 41 00:02:19,465 --> 00:02:21,705 Speaker 2: both have different approaches to how you find your three 42 00:02:21,745 --> 00:02:25,145 Speaker 2: words but my three words are so classic to my 43 00:02:25,185 --> 00:02:27,905 Speaker 2: foundational word, because my style is that its core classic. 44 00:02:28,865 --> 00:02:32,425 Speaker 2: Then it's comfortable. That's how I want to feel. 45 00:02:32,825 --> 00:02:35,185 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I haven't even thought of my words 46 00:02:35,225 --> 00:02:36,625 Speaker 1: at alone. Research This is amazing. 47 00:02:36,625 --> 00:02:38,745 Speaker 2: So it provides so much structure once you've got those pio. 48 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:42,745 Speaker 2: It did a little bit because comfortable doesn't sound very glamorous. 49 00:02:42,745 --> 00:02:44,585 Speaker 1: Now it feels like traxit pants, but that's not true. 50 00:02:44,625 --> 00:02:46,185 Speaker 2: That's right for me. It's got a bit of a 51 00:02:46,225 --> 00:02:48,105 Speaker 2: double meaning in the sense that that's how I want 52 00:02:48,105 --> 00:02:49,625 Speaker 2: to feel, but it also reflects. 53 00:02:49,825 --> 00:02:52,185 Speaker 1: But then it makes you feel confident because it's right, and. 54 00:02:52,145 --> 00:02:54,705 Speaker 2: It's like it reflects the relaxed nature of my life. 55 00:02:54,745 --> 00:02:56,865 Speaker 2: Now it's not as dressy as it used to be 56 00:02:56,865 --> 00:02:58,265 Speaker 2: because you know, I've got kids in the picture and 57 00:02:58,305 --> 00:03:01,505 Speaker 2: things like that. But it's also because I'm petite. It's 58 00:03:01,505 --> 00:03:03,345 Speaker 2: got a bit of a double meaning there too, because 59 00:03:03,505 --> 00:03:05,905 Speaker 2: I walk into a store find things off the rack 60 00:03:05,905 --> 00:03:08,305 Speaker 2: and they're not going to necessarily fit my proportions, so 61 00:03:08,665 --> 00:03:10,785 Speaker 2: it's a bit of a remind they're not to sort 62 00:03:10,825 --> 00:03:14,425 Speaker 2: of not to compromise anything, and just to make sure 63 00:03:14,425 --> 00:03:17,425 Speaker 2: the filter that's right, and so comfortable's got a few 64 00:03:17,465 --> 00:03:20,825 Speaker 2: sort of layer of My third word, which is my 65 00:03:20,905 --> 00:03:22,705 Speaker 2: aspirational word, is elevated. 66 00:03:22,865 --> 00:03:26,425 Speaker 1: Yes, oh you're all of those. That's your Your aspirations 67 00:03:26,705 --> 00:03:27,665 Speaker 1: is a reality. 68 00:03:27,905 --> 00:03:29,585 Speaker 2: Oh thanks. It's a little bit of something, a little 69 00:03:29,585 --> 00:03:32,065 Speaker 2: bit of something special, something extra. I always try and 70 00:03:32,345 --> 00:03:34,385 Speaker 2: like inject a little bit of that. Yes, And so 71 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:36,745 Speaker 2: I think like I approach that like for when I'm 72 00:03:36,745 --> 00:03:39,105 Speaker 2: getting dressed for the office, yes, but also when I'm 73 00:03:39,185 --> 00:03:40,545 Speaker 2: getting dressed for weekends. 74 00:03:40,625 --> 00:03:42,305 Speaker 1: Stuff off you running around with the kids. 75 00:03:42,345 --> 00:03:44,065 Speaker 2: That's right. I'll pop on some earrings just to get 76 00:03:44,105 --> 00:03:45,385 Speaker 2: myself fee a little bit more elevation. 77 00:03:45,465 --> 00:03:47,625 Speaker 1: Well, you know, seeing you in real life occasionally and 78 00:03:47,665 --> 00:03:51,105 Speaker 1: following you like devotedly following on Instagram. I approve of 79 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:54,265 Speaker 1: all three. Next question, So the theory we hear all 80 00:03:54,265 --> 00:03:56,505 Speaker 1: the time, we wear ten percent of our wardrobe ninety 81 00:03:56,505 --> 00:03:58,705 Speaker 1: percent of the time. So the stuff we grab where 82 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,225 Speaker 1: love rewear, make sure it's washed so it's ready to 83 00:04:01,225 --> 00:04:03,585 Speaker 1: go again. You're ten percent. What's in there? 84 00:04:03,865 --> 00:04:06,465 Speaker 2: When I think about the ten percent of things that 85 00:04:06,465 --> 00:04:08,985 Speaker 2: I wear, I think shoes come to mind quite a bit. 86 00:04:09,745 --> 00:04:12,105 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean too, actually, because I'm just like I 87 00:04:12,145 --> 00:04:12,905 Speaker 1: know you're comfortable. 88 00:04:12,985 --> 00:04:15,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a pretty solid shoe collection, a lot 89 00:04:15,225 --> 00:04:17,985 Speaker 2: of very beautiful, uncomfortable shoes, make sure, And so I'm 90 00:04:18,025 --> 00:04:21,865 Speaker 2: always finding myself gravitating towards closed toe sandals at the moment. 91 00:04:21,905 --> 00:04:22,985 Speaker 2: That's been a thing for the past. 92 00:04:23,105 --> 00:04:26,505 Speaker 1: Closed toes sandal, Yeah, Like, what do you mean? 93 00:04:26,585 --> 00:04:27,985 Speaker 2: So like, I've got a lot of I've got a 94 00:04:27,985 --> 00:04:30,465 Speaker 2: heap of strappy I'm just holding my foot. Stop by 95 00:04:30,465 --> 00:04:33,145 Speaker 2: the way, No, that's going to mean nothing to people listening. No, 96 00:04:33,225 --> 00:04:35,425 Speaker 2: but yeah, I wear a lot of closed toe sandals 97 00:04:35,465 --> 00:04:39,705 Speaker 2: from the office. Also appropriate, work appropriate, super comfortable. Yeah, 98 00:04:39,705 --> 00:04:42,425 Speaker 2: but they're airy, That's why they're airy. But it means that, 99 00:04:42,585 --> 00:04:44,705 Speaker 2: like my heels, a lot of things don't get as 100 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:47,265 Speaker 2: much airtime as they should. I may be wearing one 101 00:04:47,265 --> 00:04:49,505 Speaker 2: pair of sneakers when I'm like doing exercise and things 102 00:04:49,545 --> 00:04:52,065 Speaker 2: like that, and so that's who that makes up. 103 00:04:52,105 --> 00:04:54,065 Speaker 1: But then I walk into a shoe shop, I'm like, pretty, 104 00:04:54,465 --> 00:04:55,425 Speaker 1: I know, buy it? 105 00:04:55,745 --> 00:04:55,945 Speaker 2: Yeah? 106 00:04:56,705 --> 00:04:58,865 Speaker 1: What else? Are you a jean girl? I mean we're 107 00:04:58,865 --> 00:05:01,945 Speaker 1: about to talk corporate, but what are you grabbing? Is 108 00:05:01,985 --> 00:05:03,505 Speaker 1: it a good quality tea? 109 00:05:03,625 --> 00:05:05,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got like crew neck teas that I love 110 00:05:06,025 --> 00:05:08,425 Speaker 2: wearing to I go two pairs of jeans that I 111 00:05:08,505 --> 00:05:12,265 Speaker 2: always wear. And I think the other key thing, the 112 00:05:12,345 --> 00:05:14,585 Speaker 2: key category that makes up my ten percent, which I 113 00:05:14,585 --> 00:05:16,385 Speaker 2: think is something that a lot of people can relate to, 114 00:05:16,865 --> 00:05:18,105 Speaker 2: would be my active wear. 115 00:05:18,225 --> 00:05:18,505 Speaker 1: Same. 116 00:05:18,825 --> 00:05:21,665 Speaker 2: And it's like particularly the stuff that I have from Lululemon. Yeah, 117 00:05:21,705 --> 00:05:23,585 Speaker 2: and it's not just fader, It's right, it's not just 118 00:05:23,625 --> 00:05:25,625 Speaker 2: the stuff that I'm wearing when I'm working out, Oh no, 119 00:05:25,665 --> 00:05:27,745 Speaker 2: because I rarely work out, but I've got a busy day, 120 00:05:27,745 --> 00:05:29,425 Speaker 2: so I just put that on. That's right. I wear 121 00:05:29,505 --> 00:05:32,025 Speaker 2: like a lot of their casual stuff and it's so comfortable. 122 00:05:32,185 --> 00:05:33,745 Speaker 2: Like I work from home quite a bit, I still 123 00:05:33,745 --> 00:05:36,465 Speaker 2: have to show up and feel put together. Yes, but 124 00:05:36,505 --> 00:05:39,345 Speaker 2: there's only so much that you can achieve in sweatpants. Yeah, 125 00:05:39,385 --> 00:05:40,345 Speaker 2: tell your let's get home. 126 00:05:40,545 --> 00:05:41,985 Speaker 1: But then you're not gonna wear like a full on 127 00:05:42,065 --> 00:05:44,905 Speaker 1: blazer if you don't need to unless you'ret of the day. 128 00:05:45,105 --> 00:05:47,945 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think luzer Lemon provides like that perfect 129 00:05:47,985 --> 00:05:52,145 Speaker 2: amount of like elevated sounds have a. 130 00:05:52,145 --> 00:05:55,465 Speaker 1: Very similar ten percent. Okay, So we're talking corporate wear 131 00:05:55,945 --> 00:05:58,345 Speaker 1: for two reasons. Firstly, because we've had so many guests 132 00:05:58,385 --> 00:06:00,945 Speaker 1: on this show and this MoMA mea office and team. 133 00:06:01,185 --> 00:06:03,385 Speaker 1: We can you know, it's a creative workplace, so we 134 00:06:03,425 --> 00:06:07,225 Speaker 1: can wear pretty casual things, and a lot of workplaces can. 135 00:06:07,265 --> 00:06:09,905 Speaker 1: But on the flip side, a lot of professions aren't, 136 00:06:09,985 --> 00:06:14,065 Speaker 1: you know, they're what I call serious careers, like lawyers 137 00:06:14,185 --> 00:06:16,785 Speaker 1: or doctors. I've got some friends that are solicitors. You know, 138 00:06:16,825 --> 00:06:20,505 Speaker 1: they're in kind of proper corporate environments. And it's also 139 00:06:20,705 --> 00:06:24,505 Speaker 1: very hot right now. Immediately when I think corporate, I think, 140 00:06:24,545 --> 00:06:26,985 Speaker 1: you know, a blazer, a long pant, whatever. But then 141 00:06:27,025 --> 00:06:29,465 Speaker 1: it's summer and it's getting hotter and hotter and hotter, 142 00:06:29,785 --> 00:06:32,705 Speaker 1: and I can imagine the corporate conundrum. I just made 143 00:06:32,705 --> 00:06:35,425 Speaker 1: that up of you know, getting to and from work 144 00:06:35,425 --> 00:06:37,865 Speaker 1: hopefully works relatively well, their conditioned, but you might be 145 00:06:37,905 --> 00:06:40,505 Speaker 1: running between meetings and so you've got to look put 146 00:06:40,545 --> 00:06:43,585 Speaker 1: together and you don't want to drop dead from heat exhaustion. 147 00:06:43,665 --> 00:06:46,185 Speaker 1: So we're going to cover all of that, But first 148 00:06:46,225 --> 00:06:49,025 Speaker 1: I want to ask you you have two lives. Essentially, 149 00:06:49,185 --> 00:06:51,665 Speaker 1: you're a content creator, but you're also a lawyer. So 150 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,865 Speaker 1: tell me about that and the wardrobes, the different wardrobes 151 00:06:54,865 --> 00:06:56,345 Speaker 1: if there is for. 152 00:06:56,385 --> 00:07:00,905 Speaker 2: Me, because what I share online is essentially what I'm wearing. Yeah, 153 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:02,505 Speaker 2: it's the same, which is great. 154 00:07:02,625 --> 00:07:06,305 Speaker 1: So your audience are probably office workers, you know, career corporate. 155 00:07:06,385 --> 00:07:08,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'm essentially I work full time as 156 00:07:08,385 --> 00:07:11,305 Speaker 2: a lawyer, and then I share what I wear online 157 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:13,745 Speaker 2: for my audience. Yeah, and it used to be strictly 158 00:07:13,865 --> 00:07:16,665 Speaker 2: just workwhere when I first started, it's now expanded into 159 00:07:16,665 --> 00:07:20,865 Speaker 2: what I was that pre lockdown, pre lockdown when everything wonders, 160 00:07:21,305 --> 00:07:24,905 Speaker 2: things have changed, and I navigated that shift with my 161 00:07:24,985 --> 00:07:28,065 Speaker 2: audience online and they were probably going through it too. 162 00:07:28,265 --> 00:07:28,465 Speaker 1: Yeah. 163 00:07:28,465 --> 00:07:31,865 Speaker 2: I think that's right. Sefually working in traditional corporate jobs 164 00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:34,065 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden working from home to 165 00:07:34,225 --> 00:07:37,665 Speaker 2: suit pants, which was amazing totally Yeah. 166 00:07:37,905 --> 00:07:40,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly despite what was happening in the world. Your 167 00:07:40,465 --> 00:07:41,025 Speaker 1: bottom for. 168 00:07:41,025 --> 00:07:42,305 Speaker 2: Comfy, Yeah, that's right. 169 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:45,185 Speaker 1: So what was your you know, I guess it's different 170 00:07:45,185 --> 00:07:47,345 Speaker 1: for each workplace, So what was the general vibe or 171 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:51,105 Speaker 1: dress code for your work and career pre lockdown? 172 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:54,905 Speaker 2: So pre lockdown, I worked mainly in private firms, and 173 00:07:55,145 --> 00:07:57,545 Speaker 2: the dress code there was I think what they call 174 00:07:57,625 --> 00:08:01,305 Speaker 2: business casual, So it's not business formal, that's like very elevated. 175 00:08:01,425 --> 00:08:04,585 Speaker 2: Business casual is still suits and blazers and things like that. Yeah, 176 00:08:04,625 --> 00:08:07,585 Speaker 2: the silhouettes were always pencil shape. Yeah as well, like 177 00:08:07,585 --> 00:08:10,385 Speaker 2: I've FINELOI in our for almost fifteen. Yeah, so I'm 178 00:08:10,385 --> 00:08:11,705 Speaker 2: sort of reflecting that show. 179 00:08:11,905 --> 00:08:13,305 Speaker 1: Back in the day, like you had to wear like 180 00:08:13,345 --> 00:08:15,145 Speaker 1: stockings and everything, or am I making that up? 181 00:08:15,185 --> 00:08:18,065 Speaker 2: Stockings wasn't a thing, that's yeah, I think I was 182 00:08:18,105 --> 00:08:22,665 Speaker 2: probably that predated my time, but it was definitely slim lines, 183 00:08:22,785 --> 00:08:25,705 Speaker 2: high heels. I punished my feet inten centimeter heels, and 184 00:08:25,745 --> 00:08:26,945 Speaker 2: it was just a thing everyone did. 185 00:08:27,265 --> 00:08:29,305 Speaker 1: Look at magazines back in the day. It was the same, yeah, 186 00:08:29,305 --> 00:08:31,705 Speaker 1: and it was unspoken for us. But you just you 187 00:08:31,785 --> 00:08:33,745 Speaker 1: just want to just sight club shoes. 188 00:08:33,385 --> 00:08:35,585 Speaker 2: So you punish your feet in them. Sometimes you have 189 00:08:36,105 --> 00:08:40,225 Speaker 2: you change from your flats to your heels after committee, 190 00:08:40,385 --> 00:08:42,625 Speaker 2: but that would be even like why are you doing that? 191 00:08:42,665 --> 00:08:44,945 Speaker 2: Like why can't you just punish your feet the entire day. 192 00:08:46,065 --> 00:08:48,265 Speaker 2: It would be a flex to be able to commute 193 00:08:48,545 --> 00:08:50,665 Speaker 2: from home to the office and home again, just in 194 00:08:50,665 --> 00:08:51,065 Speaker 2: the one. 195 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:53,105 Speaker 1: Period shoe and I'm assuming like a pump or a 196 00:08:53,145 --> 00:08:55,825 Speaker 1: court shoe, like not a stiletto. Yeah, not as. 197 00:08:56,105 --> 00:08:58,905 Speaker 2: I would wear stilettos, but I would went like a pump. Yeah, no, 198 00:08:59,745 --> 00:09:02,465 Speaker 2: no toes out okay, no that even sling backs were 199 00:09:02,465 --> 00:09:05,705 Speaker 2: frowned upon. But I mean there's been such a shift 200 00:09:05,905 --> 00:09:08,425 Speaker 2: like yeah, but I think that was just a very conservative, 201 00:09:08,665 --> 00:09:10,065 Speaker 2: traditional office environ. 202 00:09:10,185 --> 00:09:14,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty narrow in terms of the options of the 203 00:09:14,225 --> 00:09:14,825 Speaker 1: final look. 204 00:09:15,065 --> 00:09:15,785 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 205 00:09:15,825 --> 00:09:18,625 Speaker 1: Okay. And for you, has that changed post lockdown or 206 00:09:18,665 --> 00:09:20,985 Speaker 1: do you think at industry wide as you know, sort 207 00:09:21,025 --> 00:09:23,025 Speaker 1: of corporate, has it relaxed a little bit? 208 00:09:23,225 --> 00:09:25,585 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, it's relaxed a lot. 209 00:09:25,785 --> 00:09:26,145 Speaker 1: Okay. 210 00:09:26,185 --> 00:09:29,265 Speaker 2: And so now I dressed to a smart casual dress 211 00:09:29,265 --> 00:09:31,745 Speaker 2: code okay, and our office actually applies a dress for 212 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:35,905 Speaker 2: your day policy, so everyone can exert Everyone can exercise 213 00:09:35,985 --> 00:09:38,665 Speaker 2: their own common sense, which is great to have the freedom, 214 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:41,185 Speaker 2: but you also get a very wide range of outfits. 215 00:09:41,265 --> 00:09:41,745 Speaker 1: Yeah. 216 00:09:41,785 --> 00:09:43,065 Speaker 2: But that's not to say that when I have a 217 00:09:43,105 --> 00:09:45,385 Speaker 2: big meeting, like a big serious meeting, yet I'm not 218 00:09:45,465 --> 00:09:48,425 Speaker 2: putting on something that is a little bit more structured 219 00:09:48,665 --> 00:09:50,505 Speaker 2: and you know, meeting the occasion. 220 00:09:50,945 --> 00:09:52,705 Speaker 1: Any are dressing for the for your day? 221 00:09:52,785 --> 00:09:53,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 222 00:09:53,465 --> 00:09:55,145 Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone has to get pulled aside and 223 00:09:55,185 --> 00:09:57,185 Speaker 1: saying the day in your head and the day on 224 00:09:57,225 --> 00:10:05,145 Speaker 1: your body is it's two different things. The last few 225 00:10:05,225 --> 00:10:08,425 Speaker 1: years you've had more flexibility. But how do you in 226 00:10:08,545 --> 00:10:13,705 Speaker 1: general avoid boring corporate work outfits? Because I think also 227 00:10:14,265 --> 00:10:16,385 Speaker 1: corporate people are often busy or up earlier doing a 228 00:10:16,385 --> 00:10:18,105 Speaker 1: million things, and it's so easy just to go into 229 00:10:18,145 --> 00:10:20,145 Speaker 1: water from and go black pants, black jacket, and they 230 00:10:20,225 --> 00:10:23,745 Speaker 1: might be lovely, but how do you keep it fresh 231 00:10:24,065 --> 00:10:25,705 Speaker 1: or you know, make sure there's still a bit of 232 00:10:25,745 --> 00:10:28,385 Speaker 1: your personality in your corporate outfit. Is it about the planning? 233 00:10:28,505 --> 00:10:29,785 Speaker 1: Is it about the accessories? 234 00:10:30,345 --> 00:10:32,425 Speaker 2: I keep those three style wards in mind, and I 235 00:10:32,425 --> 00:10:34,185 Speaker 2: think that's the ones that you asked me about in 236 00:10:34,225 --> 00:10:36,105 Speaker 2: the beginning. That's provided me with a lot of structure 237 00:10:36,105 --> 00:10:37,905 Speaker 2: to have a bit of a play because I do 238 00:10:37,945 --> 00:10:39,785 Speaker 2: think that there is still a place for a pair 239 00:10:39,825 --> 00:10:40,585 Speaker 2: of black pants. 240 00:10:40,625 --> 00:10:43,425 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, absolutely, yeah, it's but there's still the 241 00:10:43,505 --> 00:10:45,665 Speaker 1: way they bought from events fifteen years ago. 242 00:10:45,865 --> 00:10:46,225 Speaker 2: That's right. 243 00:10:46,265 --> 00:10:47,865 Speaker 1: That's you don't have to wear that every single day, 244 00:10:48,985 --> 00:10:52,065 Speaker 1: like you know, corporate borings. I won't bother yeah, yeah, And. 245 00:10:52,025 --> 00:10:54,305 Speaker 2: Corporate were back in the day as well, was really expensive. 246 00:10:54,385 --> 00:10:56,425 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I would spend I remember spending four 247 00:10:56,465 --> 00:10:58,185 Speaker 2: hundred dollars on a pencil skirt that I would never 248 00:10:58,185 --> 00:11:00,945 Speaker 2: wear now because it's just so old school, whereas now 249 00:11:00,985 --> 00:11:03,345 Speaker 2: you can sort of there's no hard and fast line 250 00:11:03,385 --> 00:11:05,345 Speaker 2: between work where you're wearing off. 251 00:11:05,425 --> 00:11:07,305 Speaker 1: Yet there's not those few stores that you'd go to 252 00:11:07,425 --> 00:11:10,105 Speaker 1: only for your work, right right, Yeah, yeah, that's my 253 00:11:10,185 --> 00:11:12,985 Speaker 1: next question. So can you run us through. We're going 254 00:11:13,065 --> 00:11:16,265 Speaker 1: to talk about hot first, like the hot weather, I mean, 255 00:11:16,305 --> 00:11:19,665 Speaker 1: you're very hot, but then we'll get into justunch work stuff. 256 00:11:20,065 --> 00:11:24,865 Speaker 1: Do you have favorite items that you do wear for 257 00:11:24,985 --> 00:11:27,305 Speaker 1: corporate life when it is unbearably hot? 258 00:11:27,745 --> 00:11:31,825 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think that dressing stylishly for work 259 00:11:31,985 --> 00:11:34,585 Speaker 2: in the summer, particularly in Australia, I think that's a 260 00:11:34,585 --> 00:11:38,425 Speaker 2: bit of a mystery. It's so hard, that's right. And 261 00:11:38,425 --> 00:11:40,465 Speaker 2: I think that, like exactly what you said earlier, like 262 00:11:40,505 --> 00:11:42,865 Speaker 2: your work day doesn't just start from when you're in 263 00:11:42,865 --> 00:11:44,465 Speaker 2: the office, because all the stuff you do for when 264 00:11:44,465 --> 00:11:47,025 Speaker 2: there's commute ye, maybe you're dropping kids off, that's right, 265 00:11:47,065 --> 00:11:49,385 Speaker 2: dropping kids off, waiting at a train station with nowhere on, 266 00:11:49,425 --> 00:11:51,545 Speaker 2: hopping on a crowded train, having a heavy bag, all 267 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:53,945 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. And just with the shift in 268 00:11:53,945 --> 00:11:55,625 Speaker 2: my dress code as well, I just sort of wanted 269 00:11:55,665 --> 00:11:58,505 Speaker 2: to canvasite just in case people are working in different professions. 270 00:11:58,745 --> 00:12:01,185 Speaker 1: Yes, well that is it, and everyone's got something slightly different. 271 00:12:01,345 --> 00:12:04,505 Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, it's summer work where boils down to 272 00:12:04,585 --> 00:12:07,745 Speaker 2: two things. It's the fabric choice and it's having a 273 00:12:07,785 --> 00:12:10,625 Speaker 2: good set of basics because you're a sentally down to 274 00:12:10,705 --> 00:12:13,745 Speaker 2: the one layer that you can really to express yourself. 275 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:16,465 Speaker 2: I think that's why like fashion, people like colder weathers 276 00:12:16,505 --> 00:12:17,105 Speaker 2: so much. 277 00:12:17,065 --> 00:12:19,225 Speaker 1: If they can do the really cool blazer, but then 278 00:12:19,225 --> 00:12:20,985 Speaker 1: the coat that they don't properly put on all right, 279 00:12:21,025 --> 00:12:25,265 Speaker 1: but your noxious shoulder, yeah that day to day Yeah. 280 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's the layering and there's the textures, whereas 281 00:12:27,865 --> 00:12:30,105 Speaker 2: here you've just you just got one. And so for 282 00:12:30,185 --> 00:12:32,585 Speaker 2: me the fabrics, I think you want to opt for 283 00:12:32,625 --> 00:12:35,905 Speaker 2: something that's light and breathable, so things like linen and 284 00:12:35,985 --> 00:12:38,865 Speaker 2: cotton they're kind of no brainers. There are also some 285 00:12:38,905 --> 00:12:42,025 Speaker 2: synthetic fibers as well that are breathable and moisture wicking, 286 00:12:42,305 --> 00:12:44,585 Speaker 2: like you know, like the active were stuff. Yes, but 287 00:12:44,705 --> 00:12:47,785 Speaker 2: there's a brand called Euphemie which is an Australian label, 288 00:12:47,865 --> 00:12:50,585 Speaker 2: and they also use some of their technology in their 289 00:12:50,625 --> 00:12:53,385 Speaker 2: work where too, because they're predominantly a workwear label. Yeah, 290 00:12:53,505 --> 00:12:55,465 Speaker 2: so you're getting a little bit of that. Yeah, because 291 00:12:55,465 --> 00:12:56,665 Speaker 2: you get stress sweats. 292 00:12:56,785 --> 00:13:01,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you do it. Sweat a huge presentation exactly. Yeah, 293 00:13:01,705 --> 00:13:02,105 Speaker 1: you've got a. 294 00:13:02,025 --> 00:13:04,625 Speaker 2: Crazy deadline, you've got a horrible west or something like that. 295 00:13:04,705 --> 00:13:09,505 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. You can't in the office, that's right. Yeah. Wow. 296 00:13:09,665 --> 00:13:11,305 Speaker 2: And then I guess in terms of like the favorite 297 00:13:11,305 --> 00:13:14,185 Speaker 2: pieces that I have that at my go tos, So 298 00:13:14,305 --> 00:13:18,105 Speaker 2: the first is shirting. Obviously, like linen shirts are great 299 00:13:18,425 --> 00:13:22,105 Speaker 2: because you know, they've got the airflow and they're breathable. 300 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:24,265 Speaker 2: I think they're also versatile in the sense that you 301 00:13:24,265 --> 00:13:27,225 Speaker 2: can wear them as a shirt, yes, as they were made, 302 00:13:27,865 --> 00:13:29,585 Speaker 2: but then you can also wear them over a tank 303 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:31,425 Speaker 2: as like a shacket. Yeah. And I really like doing 304 00:13:31,425 --> 00:13:31,865 Speaker 2: it on. 305 00:13:31,785 --> 00:13:34,625 Speaker 1: The weekend or even though that's. 306 00:13:33,945 --> 00:13:35,745 Speaker 2: For a bit of a relaxed look. So I think 307 00:13:35,745 --> 00:13:38,105 Speaker 2: that's summer work. Where item number one. 308 00:13:38,065 --> 00:13:41,225 Speaker 1: Okay, a good natural fib or breathabule shirt. 309 00:13:41,025 --> 00:13:43,665 Speaker 2: That's right, A good loose that's right, breathble shirt. 310 00:13:43,785 --> 00:13:43,985 Speaker 1: Yes. 311 00:13:44,065 --> 00:13:46,705 Speaker 2: The next item for me sounds a little bit specific, 312 00:13:46,745 --> 00:13:48,545 Speaker 2: but it's cotton poplin dresses. 313 00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:51,585 Speaker 1: I don't think love we love specificity. Trust me, that's 314 00:13:51,625 --> 00:13:55,345 Speaker 1: good okay, cotton poplin specifically. Okay, so that's that kind 315 00:13:55,385 --> 00:13:57,265 Speaker 1: of stiffer, yes, yes, stiff. 316 00:13:57,265 --> 00:14:00,025 Speaker 2: They're tied a wee bit of achine to it. Yeah. 317 00:14:00,145 --> 00:14:02,785 Speaker 1: So see I immediately think white, but I'm assuming you're 318 00:14:02,785 --> 00:14:04,305 Speaker 1: probably thinking different color. 319 00:14:04,225 --> 00:14:08,745 Speaker 2: Yes, different color. Yeah. Cotton poplin is like cotton's ritzier cousin. Yes, 320 00:14:09,145 --> 00:14:11,825 Speaker 2: and it's it just it looks so much more elevated, 321 00:14:11,865 --> 00:14:14,105 Speaker 2: and you get pieces that are more elevated made in 322 00:14:14,185 --> 00:14:15,025 Speaker 2: that fabric. 323 00:14:15,065 --> 00:14:17,105 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's a bit more structured, so it lends 324 00:14:17,105 --> 00:14:17,985 Speaker 1: out's right, So it. 325 00:14:18,025 --> 00:14:20,225 Speaker 2: Flows a little bit more. There are some designers like 326 00:14:20,265 --> 00:14:22,945 Speaker 2: Scanlan Theater or they do a really good cotton poplin dress, 327 00:14:23,265 --> 00:14:26,505 Speaker 2: but I appreciate their price tag isn't accessible to everybody. Yeah, 328 00:14:26,665 --> 00:14:29,105 Speaker 2: and so there's also an Aussie label called fou Ameina. 329 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:31,145 Speaker 1: Oh I love this stuff. 330 00:14:31,145 --> 00:14:33,305 Speaker 2: Is so good, isn't it. They've got an amazing range 331 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,505 Speaker 2: of cotton poplin dresses in beautiful colors. That's where all 332 00:14:36,505 --> 00:14:39,905 Speaker 2: my color is coming from, actually from their dresses. And 333 00:14:40,185 --> 00:14:43,025 Speaker 2: it's roughly half the price of a Scalon theaterre dress. 334 00:14:43,105 --> 00:14:46,265 Speaker 1: Okay, and the cuts work appropriate, The cuts are I'm 335 00:14:46,305 --> 00:14:48,465 Speaker 1: assuming you wouldn't do sort of a shoe string strap 336 00:14:48,585 --> 00:14:49,305 Speaker 1: or no. 337 00:14:49,185 --> 00:14:51,945 Speaker 2: You wouldn't you do like a play on a shirt dress? Yeah, 338 00:14:52,105 --> 00:14:56,425 Speaker 2: a button down something sleek covered. But yeah, you can 339 00:14:56,465 --> 00:14:58,625 Speaker 2: do something. Yep, they've got things with shoulders on them. 340 00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:02,465 Speaker 2: But I think as long as it's flowy and like 341 00:15:02,505 --> 00:15:04,865 Speaker 2: a high neck, yeah, I think that's appropriate for the 342 00:15:04,905 --> 00:15:05,585 Speaker 2: office I need. 343 00:15:05,705 --> 00:15:07,385 Speaker 1: I mean not that I work in corporate, but you've 344 00:15:07,385 --> 00:15:09,665 Speaker 1: made me inspired by that. What else? 345 00:15:10,065 --> 00:15:12,865 Speaker 2: What else? Summer knits some I know that sounds like 346 00:15:12,865 --> 00:15:13,825 Speaker 2: a bit of an oxyd. 347 00:15:13,665 --> 00:15:15,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've got a few knit tanks. Oh, 348 00:15:15,505 --> 00:15:17,585 Speaker 1: you could do like a nice high knit tank kind 349 00:15:17,665 --> 00:15:17,945 Speaker 1: of thing. 350 00:15:18,025 --> 00:15:22,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, like cotton knits because they are quite breathable and 351 00:15:22,785 --> 00:15:26,025 Speaker 2: they look because it's the idea of an elevated basic, 352 00:15:26,065 --> 00:15:28,185 Speaker 2: they look a lot more basic than a creen neckt 353 00:15:28,385 --> 00:15:30,425 Speaker 2: which I have nothing against. Yeah, sometimes you want a 354 00:15:30,465 --> 00:15:33,225 Speaker 2: little bit of variety. Yes, I love my cotton knit 355 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:38,185 Speaker 2: tops from Aniquan a Uniclor have a great selection and 356 00:15:38,225 --> 00:15:41,385 Speaker 2: they're all so great when the air con is set 357 00:15:41,425 --> 00:15:44,225 Speaker 2: to Arctic in the office, and it gives you an 358 00:15:44,265 --> 00:15:45,505 Speaker 2: additional bit of like. 359 00:15:45,465 --> 00:15:47,305 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it kind of knows whether it warm me 360 00:15:47,385 --> 00:15:48,865 Speaker 1: up or cool you down. A little bit. 361 00:15:48,985 --> 00:15:51,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a magical work where. 362 00:15:51,305 --> 00:15:54,305 Speaker 1: I and you mentioned closed sandals. So do you have 363 00:15:54,345 --> 00:15:58,425 Speaker 1: any brands or work where appropriate sort of styles. Yeah, 364 00:15:58,545 --> 00:16:00,625 Speaker 1: closed toast sandals have been a real thing for me 365 00:16:00,665 --> 00:16:01,585 Speaker 1: for the past few years. 366 00:16:02,105 --> 00:16:05,425 Speaker 2: I love the closed TOAs sandals from bad footwear comforts. 367 00:16:05,505 --> 00:16:08,265 Speaker 2: I never thought that I would be so enthusiastic over 368 00:16:08,465 --> 00:16:10,865 Speaker 2: for dietrist design. Shoes are the ones that I would 369 00:16:10,905 --> 00:16:12,065 Speaker 2: see in the pharmacy. 370 00:16:11,825 --> 00:16:16,105 Speaker 1: Totally, and homis that were on the side. 371 00:16:15,625 --> 00:16:19,905 Speaker 2: Ye, comfort first fashion, not even a yes whereas bad. 372 00:16:20,025 --> 00:16:22,665 Speaker 2: It's just they've got all these trendy designs. They're great. 373 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:25,465 Speaker 2: They've got heels as well, like traditional heels you know 374 00:16:25,625 --> 00:16:26,785 Speaker 2: you would wear back in the day. 375 00:16:27,025 --> 00:16:28,585 Speaker 1: Sure, you know, yeah, like a like a kind of 376 00:16:28,665 --> 00:16:31,105 Speaker 1: air hostess courts that's right, like a courtshe Yeah, they've 377 00:16:31,105 --> 00:16:33,305 Speaker 1: got a really they've got stylish options there. But I 378 00:16:33,345 --> 00:16:35,865 Speaker 1: think the closed tost sandal is just a really nice 379 00:16:36,105 --> 00:16:38,465 Speaker 1: flowed my mind. Yeah, I even thought to do a 380 00:16:38,505 --> 00:16:39,745 Speaker 1: style like that. I love that. 381 00:16:39,865 --> 00:16:41,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. They've got a heap of fishermen sandals. 382 00:16:41,705 --> 00:16:43,265 Speaker 2: I never thought that I would be a lawyer wearing 383 00:16:43,265 --> 00:16:45,225 Speaker 2: fisherman sandals too and from work. But that's what I'm 384 00:16:45,225 --> 00:16:47,945 Speaker 2: doing run the office. Yeah, I love them. A lot 385 00:16:47,985 --> 00:16:49,225 Speaker 2: of people are doing it too, so. 386 00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:50,425 Speaker 1: You've influenced them. 387 00:16:50,545 --> 00:16:52,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so you can do it. 388 00:16:52,265 --> 00:16:56,265 Speaker 1: When you go shopping, do you, you know, consciously look 389 00:16:56,345 --> 00:16:59,345 Speaker 1: for items that are versatile enough for your non lawyer life, 390 00:16:59,425 --> 00:17:02,705 Speaker 1: for you know, the weekends. Do you find that it's 391 00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:06,625 Speaker 1: the way you style items that then means they're versatile. Yeah. 392 00:17:06,665 --> 00:17:09,865 Speaker 2: For me, I don't shop for work where anymore. I 393 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:13,985 Speaker 2: shop for just my wardrobe, but I do want to 394 00:17:14,105 --> 00:17:16,345 Speaker 2: ensure that it can be styled for both, and so 395 00:17:16,585 --> 00:17:19,505 Speaker 2: there has to be an element of elevation to it. 396 00:17:19,545 --> 00:17:21,305 Speaker 2: There has to be something a little bit dressy about 397 00:17:21,345 --> 00:17:23,425 Speaker 2: it or I would feel comfortable wearing it to the office. 398 00:17:23,505 --> 00:17:23,705 Speaker 1: Yeah. 399 00:17:23,785 --> 00:17:26,745 Speaker 2: Sure, and that's when I can justify adding something to 400 00:17:26,785 --> 00:17:28,945 Speaker 2: my wardrobe. There is an element of that, for sure. 401 00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:32,065 Speaker 1: And that's kind of your words as well. Elevated. So yeah, 402 00:17:32,105 --> 00:17:34,385 Speaker 1: it's your radar anyway, You've got to get your three words. 403 00:17:35,065 --> 00:17:38,145 Speaker 1: I don't know. Mine would be a bower bird and 404 00:17:38,385 --> 00:17:41,345 Speaker 1: if it's on sale, and depends on what mood I'm in, 405 00:17:42,465 --> 00:17:45,065 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's probably easier to dress down. 406 00:17:45,105 --> 00:17:47,105 Speaker 1: You know, say you've got a beautiful oversized blazer you 407 00:17:47,105 --> 00:17:49,865 Speaker 1: can wear to work, easy to wear that on the weekend. 408 00:17:49,945 --> 00:17:52,345 Speaker 1: But if there's just really something really great and casual, 409 00:17:52,425 --> 00:17:54,425 Speaker 1: or you're going on a holiday, obviously you'll still buy 410 00:17:54,505 --> 00:17:56,665 Speaker 1: stuff that's not for your lawyer life. 411 00:17:56,585 --> 00:17:58,985 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, Okay, Yeah, so I've got a lot of 412 00:17:59,025 --> 00:18:03,025 Speaker 2: casual stuff down. Yeah, because I'm not in the office 413 00:18:03,065 --> 00:18:04,785 Speaker 2: the majority of the time anymore. I'm no longer in 414 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:07,985 Speaker 2: the office five days a week work like many people. 415 00:18:08,025 --> 00:18:10,545 Speaker 2: That's why it's very handy. I mean two days a week. 416 00:18:11,145 --> 00:18:13,065 Speaker 2: It means that I have an amazing workway wardrobe that 417 00:18:13,145 --> 00:18:15,305 Speaker 2: doesn't get as much time as it should. 418 00:18:15,385 --> 00:18:17,265 Speaker 1: And you're probably jumping on a zooms You're like, queer, God, 419 00:18:17,345 --> 00:18:18,265 Speaker 1: just put this top on it. 420 00:18:18,265 --> 00:18:21,345 Speaker 2: That's right there, you go. Yeah, but no, it's really 421 00:18:21,465 --> 00:18:24,185 Speaker 2: dressing for my comfortable self now. 422 00:18:24,305 --> 00:18:25,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love that. 423 00:18:25,465 --> 00:18:27,985 Speaker 2: I love how it's shifted, but I still want to 424 00:18:27,985 --> 00:18:28,745 Speaker 2: feel put together. 425 00:18:28,945 --> 00:18:29,265 Speaker 1: Yeah. 426 00:18:29,345 --> 00:18:33,065 Speaker 2: I think that if my workplace was dressy and still 427 00:18:33,105 --> 00:18:36,225 Speaker 2: in that business casual dress code, I would still be 428 00:18:36,265 --> 00:18:37,745 Speaker 2: shopping for two separate wardrobes. 429 00:18:37,785 --> 00:18:37,985 Speaker 1: Yeah. 430 00:18:38,065 --> 00:18:41,225 Speaker 2: Right, But because that's shifted and transitioned to a more 431 00:18:41,265 --> 00:18:42,225 Speaker 2: relaxed code. 432 00:18:42,305 --> 00:18:45,145 Speaker 1: But I also think you're helping other people sort of 433 00:18:45,185 --> 00:18:47,305 Speaker 1: do that in their own way, even if their workplace 434 00:18:47,385 --> 00:18:49,825 Speaker 1: is slightly more corporate than yours. I think you show 435 00:18:49,865 --> 00:18:53,545 Speaker 1: the versatility well of items that can really do both roles. 436 00:18:53,985 --> 00:18:56,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's Yeah, that makes me feel nice 437 00:18:56,065 --> 00:18:58,065 Speaker 2: when you say that that's the aim. 438 00:18:58,345 --> 00:19:01,905 Speaker 1: So you mentioned carrying heavy bags before, and bags in general. 439 00:19:02,025 --> 00:19:03,585 Speaker 1: What do you look for in a good work bag. 440 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:06,945 Speaker 2: I like a bag that can fit all my stuff. 441 00:19:08,025 --> 00:19:10,145 Speaker 2: I used to be a crazy bag, used to have 442 00:19:10,225 --> 00:19:13,545 Speaker 2: separate bags for my lunch and my Yeah. 443 00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:15,665 Speaker 1: I'm still a cute handbag, and then this, and then 444 00:19:15,665 --> 00:19:17,705 Speaker 1: I'm like oh wait and then and I've got three bags. 445 00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:19,585 Speaker 2: I want everything just compact. 446 00:19:19,705 --> 00:19:21,665 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not her yet. 447 00:19:21,905 --> 00:19:25,185 Speaker 2: Oh when you do get there, and you do future, 448 00:19:25,225 --> 00:19:27,225 Speaker 2: you will be very happy, I know. 449 00:19:27,585 --> 00:19:29,145 Speaker 1: So are you? You know? Have you got a few 450 00:19:29,145 --> 00:19:31,745 Speaker 1: sort of smaller bags for weekends lash evening where, but 451 00:19:31,785 --> 00:19:33,825 Speaker 1: mostly you're a tote that can take it all. 452 00:19:33,905 --> 00:19:36,345 Speaker 2: I'm a tote person. I've got a few designer totes 453 00:19:36,385 --> 00:19:38,705 Speaker 2: whenever I want to inject a little bit of that. Yeah, 454 00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:42,225 Speaker 2: I've also got some very functional, some very stylish ones 455 00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:45,105 Speaker 2: too from Belroy. I love their toes because I've got compartments. 456 00:19:45,265 --> 00:19:46,025 Speaker 1: Never heard of them. 457 00:19:46,105 --> 00:19:47,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's compartments for everything. 458 00:19:47,905 --> 00:19:48,745 Speaker 1: I love a compartment. 459 00:19:48,825 --> 00:19:52,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing Leroy. Yeah, it just makes life so 460 00:19:52,225 --> 00:19:53,465 Speaker 2: much easier with packing. 461 00:19:53,345 --> 00:19:55,505 Speaker 1: Doesn't You're not rummaging around, that's right. 462 00:19:55,545 --> 00:19:57,585 Speaker 2: And then yeah, I've got a range of cross body 463 00:19:57,585 --> 00:19:59,305 Speaker 2: bags that I rely on. Yeah on the weekend. 464 00:19:59,345 --> 00:20:01,665 Speaker 1: Would you do a backpack for work or absolutely? 465 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,025 Speaker 2: I am a total backpack person. Yes. 466 00:20:04,065 --> 00:20:06,265 Speaker 1: So you can get stylish enough backpacks to wear to 467 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:06,745 Speaker 1: the office. 468 00:20:06,825 --> 00:20:08,985 Speaker 2: You can. You can get tote packs. Have you heard 469 00:20:09,025 --> 00:20:11,745 Speaker 2: of these? They're like a multi it's. 470 00:20:11,625 --> 00:20:12,745 Speaker 1: Like a transformer for a bag. 471 00:20:12,825 --> 00:20:15,865 Speaker 2: Yes, it's like it's like a two in one multifunctional bag. 472 00:20:16,185 --> 00:20:18,065 Speaker 2: We can wear it as a tote or as a backpack. 473 00:20:18,185 --> 00:20:19,705 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's very cool. 474 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:23,945 Speaker 2: I discovered those just after lockdown lifted, like when we 475 00:20:23,945 --> 00:20:25,625 Speaker 2: were returning back to working. Yes, I think I can 476 00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:27,465 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. Yeah, and I 477 00:20:27,505 --> 00:20:30,625 Speaker 2: haven't looked back because when I commute to the office, 478 00:20:30,745 --> 00:20:32,585 Speaker 2: I'm dropping the kids off on foot. Yeah, and I'm 479 00:20:32,585 --> 00:20:33,025 Speaker 2: hopping on. 480 00:20:32,945 --> 00:20:35,625 Speaker 1: The tree probably carrying stuff for them, holding their hands. 481 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:36,345 Speaker 2: And also, you. 482 00:20:36,305 --> 00:20:38,545 Speaker 1: Know, I've won my handbag on the same side for 483 00:20:38,705 --> 00:20:41,065 Speaker 1: you know, decades, and my back is not enjoying it. 484 00:20:41,185 --> 00:20:43,065 Speaker 2: No, and so yep, you need to get on the 485 00:20:43,105 --> 00:20:43,825 Speaker 2: backpack train. 486 00:20:43,985 --> 00:20:45,985 Speaker 1: Okay, but it's nice to sort of chop and change. 487 00:20:46,665 --> 00:20:48,625 Speaker 1: I do like change on my bag. Occasionally. I hate 488 00:20:48,625 --> 00:20:50,305 Speaker 1: it when I get somewhere and I'm like, oh, whatever, 489 00:20:50,345 --> 00:20:52,425 Speaker 1: that one thing's in my other bag. But it is 490 00:20:52,465 --> 00:20:54,185 Speaker 1: a nice way to kind of switch things up. 491 00:20:54,305 --> 00:20:56,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much part of my outfit, my bag. Yeah, 492 00:20:57,025 --> 00:20:58,985 Speaker 2: so I will. I won't keep the same bag all 493 00:20:58,985 --> 00:21:01,345 Speaker 2: the time. Very easily, chance for it. As long as 494 00:21:01,345 --> 00:21:04,865 Speaker 2: it carries everything. Long, it carries everything. Compartments are great. 495 00:21:04,865 --> 00:21:07,945 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, love it. You touched on footwear before, so 496 00:21:08,065 --> 00:21:11,145 Speaker 1: now in these you know your modern life right now. 497 00:21:11,265 --> 00:21:13,385 Speaker 1: You don't change to get to the office or you 498 00:21:13,465 --> 00:21:16,025 Speaker 1: just go. These are work appropriate, They're comfortable, and I 499 00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:17,505 Speaker 1: can go the whole day, whole. 500 00:21:17,385 --> 00:21:19,625 Speaker 2: Day, that's right. So I'll wear at the moment because 501 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:22,985 Speaker 2: it's so hot. Closed dow sandals are a thing. Strappie 502 00:21:22,985 --> 00:21:26,025 Speaker 2: sandals ballet flat like a ballet flat. Yeah, I mean, 503 00:21:26,025 --> 00:21:28,465 Speaker 2: I get like it gets really sweaty. I agree when 504 00:21:28,505 --> 00:21:29,025 Speaker 2: you're walking. 505 00:21:29,105 --> 00:21:31,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's not often, I mean, depending on the brand, 506 00:21:31,145 --> 00:21:32,705 Speaker 1: but most of them don't have much support. 507 00:21:32,785 --> 00:21:34,225 Speaker 2: No, they don't have much sport. But I'm more of 508 00:21:34,265 --> 00:21:36,785 Speaker 2: a loafers person, I've got to say, so loafers would 509 00:21:36,825 --> 00:21:37,345 Speaker 2: be my thing. 510 00:21:37,545 --> 00:21:40,345 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do love a loafer with a worklow 511 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:40,905 Speaker 1: I do too. 512 00:21:41,025 --> 00:21:43,545 Speaker 2: I have the whole element of like masculine. 513 00:21:42,985 --> 00:21:45,865 Speaker 1: Me too, like the Gucci loafer, but it doesn't have 514 00:21:45,905 --> 00:21:48,025 Speaker 1: to be the Gucci loafer, but just the visual reference. 515 00:21:48,025 --> 00:21:49,785 Speaker 1: You know, can get really great affordable ones. 516 00:21:49,705 --> 00:21:51,625 Speaker 2: Very classic. The Gucci loafers are the ones that I 517 00:21:51,665 --> 00:21:53,945 Speaker 2: always wear. Yeah, trying to get the costper wear down. 518 00:21:54,025 --> 00:21:56,145 Speaker 2: I've had them for about three years now when they're amazing. 519 00:21:56,225 --> 00:21:57,945 Speaker 1: Oh, I've got a roop off pair of them, but 520 00:21:57,945 --> 00:21:59,505 Speaker 1: I think they're almost dead, so I probably should have 521 00:21:59,505 --> 00:22:00,185 Speaker 1: just bought the real one. 522 00:22:00,265 --> 00:22:03,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great. But when things need to be a 523 00:22:03,225 --> 00:22:05,425 Speaker 2: little bit more serious, you need to be a bit dressy, 524 00:22:05,505 --> 00:22:08,225 Speaker 2: then I will wear a low heel okay, but five 525 00:22:08,265 --> 00:22:11,385 Speaker 2: centimeters is my limit. In summer it will be a 526 00:22:11,425 --> 00:22:14,105 Speaker 2: sling back that ex ventilation. 527 00:22:14,505 --> 00:22:16,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's like a pointy court shure. 528 00:22:16,745 --> 00:22:18,145 Speaker 2: It's a pointy courtshoe. 529 00:22:18,185 --> 00:22:19,945 Speaker 1: Okay. And see what I love about that is now 530 00:22:19,985 --> 00:22:22,425 Speaker 1: they look great with you know, Bermuda shorts are a 531 00:22:22,425 --> 00:22:24,865 Speaker 1: little dress like. You can wear them non corporately as well. 532 00:22:24,945 --> 00:22:28,545 Speaker 2: Yeah they do. They're great. They're quite versatile. So yeah, 533 00:22:28,585 --> 00:22:32,185 Speaker 2: I find those low heels do double duty in that sense. 534 00:22:32,265 --> 00:22:34,185 Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't want any higher anyway. And I 535 00:22:34,185 --> 00:22:36,105 Speaker 1: don't work in corporate. I just want to be comfortable. 536 00:22:36,185 --> 00:22:38,945 Speaker 2: No, But like that's the thing I used tonish my 537 00:22:38,985 --> 00:22:41,385 Speaker 2: feet intents. I don't know how I did it. I 538 00:22:41,425 --> 00:22:41,745 Speaker 2: love it. 539 00:22:42,225 --> 00:22:45,265 Speaker 1: We've all been there so not just summer in general. 540 00:22:45,305 --> 00:22:47,785 Speaker 1: But can you just share your favorite I mean when 541 00:22:47,825 --> 00:22:50,945 Speaker 1: I say share your favorite corporate wear brands, the thing 542 00:22:51,025 --> 00:22:53,145 Speaker 1: is I think for me, I used to go, okay, 543 00:22:53,265 --> 00:22:56,505 Speaker 1: Q Jackie E jack Is that was that? It was 544 00:22:56,545 --> 00:22:59,385 Speaker 1: she that was a shop way back at you know, 545 00:22:59,585 --> 00:23:02,185 Speaker 1: I've never been corporate, But now I feel like you 546 00:23:02,225 --> 00:23:04,905 Speaker 1: could probably walk into most stores in a Westfield and 547 00:23:04,945 --> 00:23:08,025 Speaker 1: find work appropriate clothes and not. But what are some 548 00:23:08,025 --> 00:23:09,505 Speaker 1: of your favorite brands that you do wear? 549 00:23:10,265 --> 00:23:12,865 Speaker 2: Favorite brands that are wearing at the moment aren't strictly 550 00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:15,265 Speaker 2: workwear labels like you say, I feel like you can 551 00:23:15,305 --> 00:23:19,265 Speaker 2: find a blazer anywhere as well. But for me, Anna 552 00:23:19,345 --> 00:23:21,745 Speaker 2: Kuan is currently a favorite. I think love she can 553 00:23:21,785 --> 00:23:24,465 Speaker 2: do no wrong, and she's got these amazing knit dresses, 554 00:23:24,505 --> 00:23:26,705 Speaker 2: like these cotton nit dresses that are great. Yes, I'm 555 00:23:26,745 --> 00:23:28,185 Speaker 2: wearing a vest at the moment. 556 00:23:28,105 --> 00:23:28,425 Speaker 1: You are. 557 00:23:28,625 --> 00:23:32,505 Speaker 2: I really love her stuff. I love Folmina, who I 558 00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:35,585 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. I do some great dresses. I play on 559 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:38,545 Speaker 2: a shirt dress which I really love. There's a workwear 560 00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:42,305 Speaker 2: label in London called The Fold. They do some really 561 00:23:42,345 --> 00:23:46,385 Speaker 2: good traditional corporate workwear, okay, but they've also tailored it 562 00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:48,785 Speaker 2: and twisted now for the modern woman, because I recognize 563 00:23:48,785 --> 00:23:49,225 Speaker 2: the shift. 564 00:23:49,345 --> 00:23:49,545 Speaker 1: Yeah. 565 00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:53,305 Speaker 2: Sure, Scanlon Theater is great too, agreed and doesn't like 566 00:23:53,305 --> 00:23:53,785 Speaker 2: scann On? 567 00:23:53,945 --> 00:23:56,385 Speaker 1: But yes, are you in the Facebook? There's a Facebook group? 568 00:23:56,745 --> 00:23:57,865 Speaker 2: Yeah? There are? Are they? 569 00:23:57,745 --> 00:23:58,345 Speaker 1: I love those? 570 00:23:58,465 --> 00:24:01,825 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah. Scanlon Secondhand is like you really feel like 571 00:24:01,865 --> 00:24:03,825 Speaker 2: you've achieved something absolutely and. 572 00:24:03,945 --> 00:24:06,305 Speaker 1: Still because it's such good quality if someone's taking care 573 00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:08,825 Speaker 1: of it, I'd go Secondhand for sure, exactly. And do 574 00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:10,585 Speaker 1: you ever do the more audible brands, like if you 575 00:24:10,625 --> 00:24:12,305 Speaker 1: looked at Zara Zara workwear. 576 00:24:12,545 --> 00:24:18,905 Speaker 2: I love Unicloth Yeah, I love is great work. Yeah, 577 00:24:18,945 --> 00:24:21,305 Speaker 2: so they're too. Yeah, they've got two massive stores in 578 00:24:21,345 --> 00:24:23,385 Speaker 2: the city, so it makes it easy to browse. Yes, 579 00:24:23,745 --> 00:24:26,065 Speaker 2: I think they do really good basics. That would be 580 00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:26,985 Speaker 2: the two i'd recommend. 581 00:24:27,145 --> 00:24:29,705 Speaker 1: Love it before we get into bougie and budget Any 582 00:24:29,785 --> 00:24:35,225 Speaker 1: last tips tricks, advice for corporate wear, corporate dressing hacks. 583 00:24:35,745 --> 00:24:37,705 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's the new year. Maybe people want 584 00:24:37,705 --> 00:24:39,585 Speaker 1: to inject some new style. And if they do work 585 00:24:39,625 --> 00:24:41,825 Speaker 1: five days a week and think, oh, that's just you know, 586 00:24:41,905 --> 00:24:45,065 Speaker 1: my boring office job, what's your recommendation. 587 00:24:45,065 --> 00:24:48,585 Speaker 2: For me, Because particularly in summer, when you're just sticking 588 00:24:48,585 --> 00:24:50,905 Speaker 2: to the one layer and your outfits are quite basic, 589 00:24:51,625 --> 00:24:54,985 Speaker 2: don't scrimp on the accessories. Add some mearings here and 590 00:24:55,065 --> 00:24:57,665 Speaker 2: there at a necklace, and there are so many ways 591 00:24:57,665 --> 00:24:59,305 Speaker 2: that you can do it in a budget friendly way. 592 00:24:59,345 --> 00:25:01,465 Speaker 2: You don't have to, you know, fork out on crazy 593 00:25:01,505 --> 00:25:03,665 Speaker 2: expensive jewelry. You can get a lot of the gold 594 00:25:03,665 --> 00:25:06,185 Speaker 2: plated stuff or the gold for may that's not going 595 00:25:06,225 --> 00:25:09,585 Speaker 2: to tarnish, its waterproof. I really like adding those little 596 00:25:09,585 --> 00:25:12,185 Speaker 2: bit It's a frosting okay around my head and all 597 00:25:12,185 --> 00:25:14,985 Speaker 2: my body. Yes, I love you, Yeah, And it really 598 00:25:15,025 --> 00:25:16,505 Speaker 2: makes your outfit quite interesting. 599 00:25:16,545 --> 00:25:18,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if maybe you're going for afterwork drinks, 600 00:25:18,665 --> 00:25:20,345 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm too old to people still do that. 601 00:25:20,385 --> 00:25:22,145 Speaker 1: But then you still feel a bit fish That's right. 602 00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:23,585 Speaker 2: It's a bit of an old life for me as well. 603 00:25:23,665 --> 00:25:25,145 Speaker 2: But I know you do. You feel a bit smash 604 00:25:25,185 --> 00:25:27,745 Speaker 2: even at eleven a m. Yeah, you at your desk, 605 00:25:27,785 --> 00:25:29,945 Speaker 2: why not? Yeah, you're not going to get much use 606 00:25:29,985 --> 00:25:33,105 Speaker 2: of it. Otherwise you may as well pop it onhr 607 00:25:33,185 --> 00:25:34,745 Speaker 2: D you or even to the office. That's right. 608 00:25:34,865 --> 00:25:35,425 Speaker 1: I love that. 609 00:25:38,185 --> 00:25:39,625 Speaker 2: It's very expensive. 610 00:25:40,065 --> 00:25:45,065 Speaker 1: How old are I've pretended I work in the corporate 611 00:25:45,145 --> 00:25:48,185 Speaker 1: environment so I can play along. Let's start though, with 612 00:25:48,465 --> 00:25:52,185 Speaker 1: your bougie what's your bougie items? It can be boogie 613 00:25:52,225 --> 00:25:53,705 Speaker 1: is you want? We've had very boogie on here? 614 00:25:53,825 --> 00:25:56,705 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, my bougie item, I've got it. Here 615 00:25:57,665 --> 00:25:59,625 Speaker 2: is my Selene handbag. 616 00:25:59,865 --> 00:26:00,625 Speaker 1: She's beautiful. 617 00:26:00,665 --> 00:26:03,545 Speaker 2: That is actual. Please. This is the Carbostone. 618 00:26:03,625 --> 00:26:04,825 Speaker 1: Oh yes, beautiful. 619 00:26:04,865 --> 00:26:07,745 Speaker 2: And even if I'm saying right, Caver Carby, don't ask me. 620 00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:09,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, fancy, that's gorgeous. 621 00:26:09,665 --> 00:26:13,665 Speaker 2: It's their toe bag, which is discontinued. That I love 622 00:26:13,745 --> 00:26:16,465 Speaker 2: this bag, and particularly when you're wearing something very basic. Yeah, 623 00:26:16,505 --> 00:26:18,185 Speaker 2: I could just be wearing a T shirt and just 624 00:26:18,785 --> 00:26:21,065 Speaker 2: very loose trousers. Yes, I put this on and I 625 00:26:21,065 --> 00:26:23,905 Speaker 2: feel like my entire and it feels your laptop. It's 626 00:26:23,905 --> 00:26:25,785 Speaker 2: my laptop. It's all of the things I need for 627 00:26:25,825 --> 00:26:27,705 Speaker 2: the day. I've even got a little liner for it 628 00:26:27,785 --> 00:26:31,425 Speaker 2: to like have the compartments it is from. It's from Etsy. 629 00:26:31,785 --> 00:26:33,465 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I need that. 630 00:26:33,625 --> 00:26:35,265 Speaker 2: And so then I've got all of this stuff because 631 00:26:35,265 --> 00:26:37,745 Speaker 2: I know otherwise I just go crazy. 632 00:26:37,745 --> 00:26:40,625 Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't. You rummage around, you can't find anything 633 00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:42,945 Speaker 1: that's clever. And you know, bags like that you can 634 00:26:42,985 --> 00:26:44,985 Speaker 1: buy secondhand, but even if you do buy a new 635 00:26:44,985 --> 00:26:46,425 Speaker 1: from store, they last forever. 636 00:26:46,625 --> 00:26:47,185 Speaker 2: They really do. 637 00:26:47,345 --> 00:26:49,185 Speaker 1: And that would look fab at a kid's birthday party 638 00:26:49,225 --> 00:26:51,305 Speaker 1: in jeans and a tea and greatful work. Yes, I 639 00:26:51,345 --> 00:26:54,665 Speaker 1: love how I'm justifying your bougie purchase that you've already bought. 640 00:26:54,865 --> 00:26:57,425 Speaker 2: That's right now. I love wearing it. Took the office. Mainly, 641 00:26:57,505 --> 00:26:59,705 Speaker 2: I don't trust my boys and they're sticky things to 642 00:26:59,745 --> 00:27:02,305 Speaker 2: bring it anywhere on the case. Maybe when they're a 643 00:27:02,305 --> 00:27:05,105 Speaker 2: bit older, but no, that's it's a great Oh, that's beautiful, 644 00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:05,825 Speaker 2: great work bag. 645 00:27:05,905 --> 00:27:09,065 Speaker 1: Well, my pretend bougie. Well it's a real bougie, but 646 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:12,305 Speaker 1: my pretend corporate life. There's a brand called Silk Laundry. 647 00:27:12,345 --> 00:27:15,905 Speaker 1: It's an Aussie brand, and I figured that silk is breathable, 648 00:27:16,705 --> 00:27:18,865 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna wear that to my fake corporate job. 649 00:27:18,905 --> 00:27:23,545 Speaker 1: It's the Silk Laundry Relaxed blazer, and it's literally, I mean, 650 00:27:23,545 --> 00:27:25,505 Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm approved. This is kind 651 00:27:25,505 --> 00:27:26,865 Speaker 1: of a deep forest green. 652 00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:29,945 Speaker 2: I really love that color because it's seeny. 653 00:27:29,745 --> 00:27:32,385 Speaker 1: Like silk, but it's not like that. It doesn't look 654 00:27:32,425 --> 00:27:36,225 Speaker 1: like cheap, tacky satin, and it's super breathable. So I 655 00:27:36,265 --> 00:27:38,985 Speaker 1: would obviously wear that just in my non corporate life. 656 00:27:39,025 --> 00:27:40,385 Speaker 1: But I feel like you could wear that, you know, 657 00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:43,345 Speaker 1: with a beautiful skirt or pants and you know, maybe 658 00:27:43,345 --> 00:27:46,105 Speaker 1: one of those sleeveless knits underneath, and it's still sort 659 00:27:46,145 --> 00:27:48,105 Speaker 1: of work appropriate, and you could still wear that into winter. 660 00:27:48,185 --> 00:27:51,105 Speaker 1: It's very sort of transseasonal. Yeah, the color makes sense. 661 00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:54,465 Speaker 1: So it's four hundred and five dollars, which is expensive, 662 00:27:54,505 --> 00:27:56,825 Speaker 1: but also for silk. I mean, I love everything Silk 663 00:27:56,865 --> 00:28:00,145 Speaker 1: Laundry does. But that's just my fake corporate life blazer. 664 00:28:00,385 --> 00:28:02,545 Speaker 1: We're in an office at the moment, I know, but 665 00:28:02,665 --> 00:28:04,905 Speaker 1: what you should see, you know, Muma, me and people 666 00:28:04,945 --> 00:28:08,625 Speaker 1: are wearing anything, anything, and I mean that lovingly, like 667 00:28:08,665 --> 00:28:11,265 Speaker 1: we can basically whatever we like and we're very lucky 668 00:28:11,305 --> 00:28:14,345 Speaker 1: that way. You're dressing for your day too, Yeah, I dressed. Yeah, 669 00:28:14,345 --> 00:28:15,305 Speaker 1: we're dressing crowd day. 670 00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:15,505 Speaker 2: You know. 671 00:28:15,505 --> 00:28:17,185 Speaker 1: Before you came in, I was dying a period pain. 672 00:28:17,265 --> 00:28:18,825 Speaker 1: I had my belt off and my shoes off, lying 673 00:28:18,825 --> 00:28:20,145 Speaker 1: on the couch. I don't know if you can do 674 00:28:20,185 --> 00:28:23,705 Speaker 1: that in every lawyer firm. Your budget please, my friend, 675 00:28:23,905 --> 00:28:25,105 Speaker 1: My budget is. 676 00:28:25,305 --> 00:28:29,265 Speaker 2: Hiding underneath these headphones. But it is a pair of earrings. 677 00:28:29,905 --> 00:28:31,865 Speaker 2: So these are a pair of earrings that I got 678 00:28:31,865 --> 00:28:34,225 Speaker 2: from Arms of Eve. They're an Australian label. They've got 679 00:28:34,225 --> 00:28:36,825 Speaker 2: a few stores now, I think in BONDI yeah, things 680 00:28:36,825 --> 00:28:39,425 Speaker 2: like that. But this is what I was talking about 681 00:28:39,465 --> 00:28:43,185 Speaker 2: in terms of jewelry. So it's gold plated, heavily gold plated, 682 00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:49,025 Speaker 2: so it's it doesn't tarnish. And earrings of this ilk 683 00:28:49,385 --> 00:28:51,825 Speaker 2: are roughly between eighty and one hundred bucks, and it 684 00:28:51,905 --> 00:28:53,505 Speaker 2: just means that you can wear things that all last 685 00:28:53,585 --> 00:28:56,105 Speaker 2: a long time. They're hyper wallergenic as well if you've 686 00:28:56,105 --> 00:28:59,345 Speaker 2: got sensitive ears. So I really love wearing these. 687 00:29:00,385 --> 00:29:02,545 Speaker 1: And again on the weekend and on the weekend. 688 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:04,385 Speaker 2: Yes, I wear them all the time. I feel like 689 00:29:04,465 --> 00:29:06,545 Speaker 2: my outfit is incomplete now if. 690 00:29:06,425 --> 00:29:09,985 Speaker 1: I don't out an accessory that's right, particularly earrings. I 691 00:29:10,025 --> 00:29:11,705 Speaker 1: know it's weird, and they don't they call it tabletop 692 00:29:11,745 --> 00:29:13,625 Speaker 1: dressing because everyone looks from the sort of the waist, 693 00:29:14,065 --> 00:29:15,865 Speaker 1: so it's like the necklace or the ear rings, and 694 00:29:15,905 --> 00:29:17,825 Speaker 1: it's just like her life's put together. 695 00:29:17,905 --> 00:29:19,625 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got her life sword. But it might just 696 00:29:19,665 --> 00:29:22,465 Speaker 2: be Yeah, that's right, misleading, isn't it. 697 00:29:22,465 --> 00:29:26,225 Speaker 1: But no, that's well, my fake corporate life. I actually 698 00:29:26,225 --> 00:29:28,305 Speaker 1: have these pants in real life, my non corporate life. 699 00:29:28,465 --> 00:29:32,105 Speaker 1: They're the uniglow pleated white pants. They're the single tuck, 700 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:34,105 Speaker 1: so you can get single tack ll double tuck. I'll 701 00:29:34,145 --> 00:29:37,025 Speaker 1: show you here. I've got the white. I don't know 702 00:29:37,025 --> 00:29:39,385 Speaker 1: if the white's maybe too white for the office. 703 00:29:39,505 --> 00:29:40,465 Speaker 2: I'm wearing white now. 704 00:29:40,705 --> 00:29:43,345 Speaker 1: Well you are too, you are too. And they come 705 00:29:43,385 --> 00:29:45,985 Speaker 1: in a really good range of colors one, two, three, four, 706 00:29:46,025 --> 00:29:49,505 Speaker 1: seven colors extra extra small to extra extra large. They're 707 00:29:49,505 --> 00:29:51,145 Speaker 1: so comfory. You can wear a belt and sort of 708 00:29:51,185 --> 00:29:53,105 Speaker 1: do a shirt and a blazer. I just wear them 709 00:29:53,145 --> 00:29:56,025 Speaker 1: with a tank and sandals in my everyday life. I 710 00:29:56,105 --> 00:29:59,905 Speaker 1: just think I agree, Uniglo does just fantastic basics that 711 00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:02,545 Speaker 1: you can really just take that item and really dress 712 00:30:02,585 --> 00:30:04,465 Speaker 1: it up or dress it down, make it really demure, 713 00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:09,345 Speaker 1: make it really rat mindful. And they've got that areism fabric, 714 00:30:09,385 --> 00:30:10,665 Speaker 1: which is is just the most. 715 00:30:12,065 --> 00:30:12,625 Speaker 2: It. Yeah. 716 00:30:12,705 --> 00:30:14,745 Speaker 1: I just bought a few little sort of almost shift 717 00:30:14,825 --> 00:30:16,985 Speaker 1: dresses that it's just a high neck and a pocket 718 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,585 Speaker 1: because I just like to run around. I need a 719 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:20,905 Speaker 1: pocket and I need it the least amount of fabric 720 00:30:20,945 --> 00:30:23,265 Speaker 1: touching me. Yeah, And they're so good in that areas 721 00:30:23,305 --> 00:30:26,585 Speaker 1: and fabric. And I love how Uniclo do the free hemming. 722 00:30:28,145 --> 00:30:30,905 Speaker 1: Not know that. I just bought some weird hemming machine 723 00:30:30,905 --> 00:30:33,025 Speaker 1: off and Instagram aut I haven't tried to use it yet. 724 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:34,825 Speaker 2: They do, Oh they do install hemming. I don't know 725 00:30:34,865 --> 00:30:37,305 Speaker 2: care it's for anymore, but it's like really easy easy 726 00:30:37,385 --> 00:30:40,065 Speaker 2: yeah and accessible. Okay, sometimes you can pick it up 727 00:30:40,065 --> 00:30:40,625 Speaker 2: on the same day. 728 00:30:40,665 --> 00:30:42,745 Speaker 1: I was going to say, if you're there, and particularly 729 00:30:42,745 --> 00:30:44,185 Speaker 1: if you work near one, if you call for it 730 00:30:44,265 --> 00:30:45,745 Speaker 1: and you can go, okay, well I'll grab those tomorrow 731 00:30:46,265 --> 00:30:47,705 Speaker 1: and then you don't have that pile in your bedroom, 732 00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:49,065 Speaker 1: going gosh, I've got to get those all taken. 733 00:30:49,145 --> 00:30:51,265 Speaker 2: Yeah. The two take to the tailor pile, which is 734 00:30:51,265 --> 00:30:52,385 Speaker 2: building up for me at home. 735 00:30:52,465 --> 00:30:54,625 Speaker 1: Oh, me too, and then I'm like, oh, forget, it's 736 00:30:54,625 --> 00:30:57,345 Speaker 1: too late. V. I love chatting with you. Thank you 737 00:30:57,385 --> 00:30:59,585 Speaker 1: for all your amazing content on Instagram. That was just 738 00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:02,105 Speaker 1: a tiny drop of the amazing advice you give. So 739 00:31:02,185 --> 00:31:04,425 Speaker 1: everyone can find you over there, and I'd love to 740 00:31:04,425 --> 00:31:05,185 Speaker 1: have you back soon. 741 00:31:05,425 --> 00:31:06,905 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. This has been 742 00:31:06,905 --> 00:31:09,745 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Thank you, Thanks. 743 00:31:09,665 --> 00:31:19,105 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 744 00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:21,545 Speaker 1: to sign up to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. It's 745 00:31:21,625 --> 00:31:24,265 Speaker 1: free and there's a link in the show notes. This 746 00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:27,905 Speaker 1: episode was produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production by 747 00:31:27,985 --> 00:31:28,585 Speaker 1: Lou Hill.