1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,514 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with mea podcast. Whoever said 2 00:00:16,553 --> 00:00:19,194 Speaker 1: orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 3 00:00:18,914 --> 00:00:22,913 Speaker 2: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 4 00:00:22,994 --> 00:00:24,634 Speaker 2: do it. You live for fashion. 5 00:00:26,114 --> 00:00:28,994 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 6 00:00:29,074 --> 00:00:32,833 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. Now, today 7 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:35,593 Speaker 1: I have a guest called Jess Spacion her and if 8 00:00:35,594 --> 00:00:38,793 Speaker 1: you recognize that name, it's because she's on radio. She 9 00:00:38,874 --> 00:00:41,833 Speaker 1: lives in Newcastle and she is on regional New South 10 00:00:41,873 --> 00:00:45,394 Speaker 1: Wales Brecky radio show on the Hit Network. So you've 11 00:00:45,394 --> 00:00:47,353 Speaker 1: probably seen her there, well heard her that. You might 12 00:00:47,394 --> 00:00:49,633 Speaker 1: have seen her on social media, but that's not what 13 00:00:49,714 --> 00:00:51,914 Speaker 1: I'm here to talk to her about. A little over 14 00:00:51,954 --> 00:00:55,313 Speaker 1: a year ago, Jess set herself a challenge at the 15 00:00:55,474 --> 00:00:59,834 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty four. One moment, actually one item 16 00:01:00,074 --> 00:01:02,794 Speaker 1: made her decide that she was not allowed to buy 17 00:01:03,074 --> 00:01:05,634 Speaker 1: one single thing for her wardrobe for the whole of 18 00:01:05,674 --> 00:01:09,674 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. We're talking clothes, We're talking shoes, We're 19 00:01:09,714 --> 00:01:12,114 Speaker 1: talking accessories. Are we talking underwear? 20 00:01:12,474 --> 00:01:14,313 Speaker 2: Did she do it? Did she fail? 21 00:01:14,914 --> 00:01:18,034 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask Jess absolutely everything about what it's 22 00:01:18,114 --> 00:01:20,834 Speaker 1: like to not buy anything for a whole year, the highs, 23 00:01:20,954 --> 00:01:24,074 Speaker 1: the lows, and how she went. It's fascinating. Let's get 24 00:01:24,114 --> 00:01:29,474 Speaker 1: into it. Jess, Welcome to Nothing to Wear. Before we 25 00:01:29,514 --> 00:01:32,634 Speaker 1: get into the topic of which I have so many questions, 26 00:01:32,954 --> 00:01:35,514 Speaker 1: I'm sort of inspired. I'm going to ask you some 27 00:01:35,554 --> 00:01:39,314 Speaker 1: personal questions. First, can you describe your style in three words? 28 00:01:39,834 --> 00:01:41,114 Speaker 2: I know we just met Lee, but can I have 29 00:01:41,114 --> 00:01:44,313 Speaker 2: a favor? Yes? Can I have four words? Yes? Okay, 30 00:01:44,394 --> 00:01:45,673 Speaker 2: I will allow it. Is there a hyphen? 31 00:01:45,874 --> 00:01:46,034 Speaker 1: No? 32 00:01:47,194 --> 00:01:50,554 Speaker 3: High school is probably two words, right, high school art teacher? 33 00:01:50,834 --> 00:01:53,554 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love it. It's a phrase. It is 34 00:01:53,634 --> 00:01:53,914 Speaker 2: it is. 35 00:01:54,034 --> 00:01:57,994 Speaker 3: I could say secondary teacher, but yeah, I think it 36 00:01:58,034 --> 00:01:59,794 Speaker 3: conveys the point I'm trying to get across. 37 00:01:59,874 --> 00:02:01,594 Speaker 2: School school teacher. 38 00:02:01,674 --> 00:02:01,954 Speaker 3: I don't know. 39 00:02:01,994 --> 00:02:03,674 Speaker 2: I vibe at the high school. 40 00:02:03,874 --> 00:02:10,353 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not childish, but I am out Okay, yes, okay, 41 00:02:10,394 --> 00:02:13,434 Speaker 3: and nothing goes together, but I don't care because. 42 00:02:13,073 --> 00:02:14,913 Speaker 1: It was everyone's art teacher like that. 43 00:02:15,073 --> 00:02:17,394 Speaker 3: Well, the one I remember from high school is why 44 00:02:17,434 --> 00:02:18,994 Speaker 3: I've pigeonholed high school. 45 00:02:19,154 --> 00:02:21,754 Speaker 1: Like bright colored, like glass or beads. But she wore 46 00:02:21,794 --> 00:02:25,354 Speaker 1: a lot of black linen but like different, Yes, but 47 00:02:25,394 --> 00:02:27,634 Speaker 1: then the accessor she had short like hair. 48 00:02:27,554 --> 00:02:29,874 Speaker 2: The image I have of high school art teacher. 49 00:02:29,874 --> 00:02:32,714 Speaker 3: And it's funny that description was actually bestowed upon me, 50 00:02:32,834 --> 00:02:36,154 Speaker 3: and I bristled against it when it was first given 51 00:02:36,194 --> 00:02:38,834 Speaker 3: to me by one of my producers, actually shy guy. 52 00:02:39,274 --> 00:02:42,154 Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, that's telling you what he thinks. No, 53 00:02:42,274 --> 00:02:42,994 Speaker 2: absolutely not. 54 00:02:43,074 --> 00:02:47,194 Speaker 3: And I remember feeling insulted because it felt quirky, it 55 00:02:47,194 --> 00:02:51,314 Speaker 3: felt silly, it felt brazen, it felt eccentric and the 56 00:02:51,314 --> 00:02:53,994 Speaker 3: way I dress, And when I reassessed my wardrobe after 57 00:02:54,074 --> 00:02:56,754 Speaker 3: he said that, I went, oh, it's just joy. Yeah, 58 00:02:56,754 --> 00:02:58,474 Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense to anyone but me, and I 59 00:02:58,514 --> 00:02:59,234 Speaker 3: don't really care. 60 00:02:59,274 --> 00:03:02,074 Speaker 2: It's not following any rules. Yes, I am not. It 61 00:03:02,074 --> 00:03:02,754 Speaker 2: makes you happy. 62 00:03:02,794 --> 00:03:04,274 Speaker 3: I hope you don't kick me out after saying this. 63 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:07,474 Speaker 3: I don't consider myself fashionable. I don't consider myself up 64 00:03:07,514 --> 00:03:09,874 Speaker 3: with the trends. I dress for myself. 65 00:03:10,074 --> 00:03:11,954 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's what we all should be doing. 66 00:03:11,834 --> 00:03:14,314 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yeah, and it's actually very liberating. 67 00:03:14,434 --> 00:03:17,714 Speaker 3: So I'm embracing high school art teacher just to mean 68 00:03:18,314 --> 00:03:21,154 Speaker 3: creative and quirky. 69 00:03:19,474 --> 00:03:23,634 Speaker 2: Ya following your heart. Yes, as much as my personality 70 00:03:24,034 --> 00:03:25,554 Speaker 2: love it. That's my favorite so far. 71 00:03:25,674 --> 00:03:29,754 Speaker 1: Now, look, I normally ask every guest this question, but 72 00:03:29,794 --> 00:03:31,434 Speaker 1: I feel like I might skip it to the end. 73 00:03:31,474 --> 00:03:34,353 Speaker 1: So it's the theory that all women or most women 74 00:03:34,394 --> 00:03:36,834 Speaker 1: have a wardrobe full of clothes and they wear ten 75 00:03:36,834 --> 00:03:38,434 Speaker 1: percent of what they've got ninety percent of the time. 76 00:03:38,434 --> 00:03:40,074 Speaker 2: But that's a bit different here. 77 00:03:40,154 --> 00:03:44,074 Speaker 1: So we're going to revisit that, sure, because last year 78 00:03:44,114 --> 00:03:48,674 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, you embarked on quite the endeavor. You 79 00:03:48,794 --> 00:03:53,074 Speaker 1: decided to challenge yourself and not buy any new clothes 80 00:03:53,074 --> 00:03:54,034 Speaker 1: for the entire year. 81 00:03:54,194 --> 00:03:57,474 Speaker 2: Not just clothes, ly, I also shoes and accessories. 82 00:03:57,034 --> 00:04:00,634 Speaker 1: Okay, myself, anything wardrobe related that you place on your body. 83 00:04:00,714 --> 00:04:06,034 Speaker 3: Correct why the reason can be explained by the dress 84 00:04:06,034 --> 00:04:07,114 Speaker 3: I'm wearing today for you. 85 00:04:07,234 --> 00:04:11,754 Speaker 2: Okay. So in late twenty twenty No, it's Leolin. I 86 00:04:11,794 --> 00:04:15,474 Speaker 2: love Leol. I love Leolin a little very fun, a 87 00:04:15,474 --> 00:04:16,234 Speaker 2: little too much. 88 00:04:16,594 --> 00:04:19,074 Speaker 3: Wait, okay, And I found myself. I think it might 89 00:04:19,113 --> 00:04:21,354 Speaker 3: have been late. It must have been late. 90 00:04:21,234 --> 00:04:22,553 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, yep. 91 00:04:22,753 --> 00:04:26,433 Speaker 3: And I was scrolling on the Leolin website, as I 92 00:04:26,513 --> 00:04:28,633 Speaker 3: was known to do, and I added three things to 93 00:04:28,714 --> 00:04:30,633 Speaker 3: come's not cheap, thank you. 94 00:04:31,154 --> 00:04:34,354 Speaker 2: One of them being this stress. And it arrived, and 95 00:04:34,393 --> 00:04:36,393 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I loved it. Fabulous. 96 00:04:36,433 --> 00:04:38,714 Speaker 3: When we talk about joy, when we talk about eccentricity, 97 00:04:38,714 --> 00:04:41,633 Speaker 3: when we talk about loud, We've got the big frill, 98 00:04:41,753 --> 00:04:43,193 Speaker 3: very synonymous with Leolin. 99 00:04:43,433 --> 00:04:45,834 Speaker 1: Everyone needs to watch on YouTube if they're only listening, 100 00:04:45,873 --> 00:04:47,753 Speaker 1: because Hello, this dress needs to be seen. 101 00:04:47,834 --> 00:04:49,914 Speaker 3: Thank you, We've got a big faires wee. We've got 102 00:04:49,914 --> 00:04:52,033 Speaker 3: this beautiful color palette. 103 00:04:52,073 --> 00:04:57,713 Speaker 2: It is so joyful. I've worn it once and I 104 00:04:58,113 --> 00:04:58,873 Speaker 2: crack that time. 105 00:04:58,993 --> 00:05:00,874 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I got it, and then I found a 106 00:05:00,914 --> 00:05:02,634 Speaker 3: reason to wear it with the girls. 107 00:05:02,313 --> 00:05:05,313 Speaker 2: And then months and months and months past and I went, 108 00:05:06,154 --> 00:05:09,393 Speaker 2: why did I buy that? This would have been five 109 00:05:10,313 --> 00:05:11,553 Speaker 2: maybe five fifty. 110 00:05:12,234 --> 00:05:14,633 Speaker 3: It's a mini, that's why it's not eight. But that 111 00:05:14,753 --> 00:05:16,513 Speaker 3: in that purchase of three, I think one of them 112 00:05:16,714 --> 00:05:19,513 Speaker 3: was Yeah. And I can justify things, and I used 113 00:05:19,513 --> 00:05:21,633 Speaker 3: to be able to do that really easily. But this 114 00:05:21,794 --> 00:05:25,833 Speaker 3: was the dress that just made me reassess my spending 115 00:05:25,873 --> 00:05:29,434 Speaker 3: habits and my impulsiveness. And it's funny because I heard 116 00:05:29,474 --> 00:05:31,513 Speaker 3: an episode of Yours from a little while back. You 117 00:05:31,594 --> 00:05:35,674 Speaker 3: interviewed an astrologer talking about how our shopping habits or 118 00:05:35,714 --> 00:05:39,393 Speaker 3: our personal style can be connected to our stars. 119 00:05:39,594 --> 00:05:41,033 Speaker 2: I'm an aries, I'm an aries. 120 00:05:41,234 --> 00:05:44,633 Speaker 3: And your astrologist did say impulsive. 121 00:05:44,993 --> 00:05:48,074 Speaker 2: And again it was this way up call of oh my. 122 00:05:48,154 --> 00:05:51,274 Speaker 3: God, I am not purchasing things to serve any purpose 123 00:05:51,433 --> 00:05:56,873 Speaker 3: except to scratch an itch. What a crappy reason to 124 00:05:56,953 --> 00:05:58,833 Speaker 3: spend my hard earned money. 125 00:05:58,834 --> 00:06:00,674 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm having a before and after 126 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:02,553 Speaker 1: if you're the after of what I could be and 127 00:06:02,594 --> 00:06:03,313 Speaker 1: I'm the before. 128 00:06:03,474 --> 00:06:05,794 Speaker 2: Honestly, I hope you can walk away from this Chartley. 129 00:06:05,914 --> 00:06:07,953 Speaker 2: I know you're in the fashion. I know that I 130 00:06:07,953 --> 00:06:09,714 Speaker 2: don't know what it would do for your brand or 131 00:06:09,753 --> 00:06:12,754 Speaker 2: your job, but I would love to see him try it, 132 00:06:13,633 --> 00:06:17,633 Speaker 2: because honestly, this was truly the garment that I went right, Jess, 133 00:06:18,234 --> 00:06:20,954 Speaker 2: wake up. I slapped myself across the face and went, 134 00:06:21,274 --> 00:06:24,313 Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. I don't need this, and it made me 135 00:06:24,393 --> 00:06:26,914 Speaker 2: relook at everything going. I've got heaps. 136 00:06:27,113 --> 00:06:29,873 Speaker 1: Okay, so I've got heaps, but then I'm not going 137 00:06:29,953 --> 00:06:32,514 Speaker 1: to buy anything for a year. That's quite a leap, 138 00:06:32,633 --> 00:06:35,514 Speaker 1: you know. So why didn't you just go Okay, no 139 00:06:35,714 --> 00:06:37,354 Speaker 1: fancy dresses or you know. 140 00:06:37,354 --> 00:06:38,474 Speaker 2: I can't do things with my halves. 141 00:06:38,953 --> 00:06:41,553 Speaker 3: I knew if I gave myself an inch, I would 142 00:06:41,594 --> 00:06:43,953 Speaker 3: take a mile or so I have to go all 143 00:06:44,113 --> 00:06:47,474 Speaker 3: or nothing. I am a hard on the sleeve, asked, 144 00:06:47,513 --> 00:06:50,234 Speaker 3: I got my husband's initials tattooed on my hip after 145 00:06:50,274 --> 00:06:51,354 Speaker 3: knowing him for four months. 146 00:06:51,393 --> 00:06:53,753 Speaker 1: Leap, you're still together, Yeah, that's happily. 147 00:06:53,474 --> 00:06:55,914 Speaker 2: Married, got a small child. I am an all or 148 00:06:55,914 --> 00:06:58,354 Speaker 2: nothing kind of I do have seven tattoos. So I 149 00:06:58,633 --> 00:06:58,874 Speaker 2: hate you. 150 00:07:00,873 --> 00:07:03,753 Speaker 3: I knew that if I gave myself a little bit 151 00:07:03,753 --> 00:07:06,794 Speaker 3: of leeway, I would constantly find loopholes and I would 152 00:07:06,834 --> 00:07:10,354 Speaker 3: just disintegrate the whole mission. So I said bry as 153 00:07:10,393 --> 00:07:14,833 Speaker 3: of January one, twenty twenty five, no new clothes, shoes, 154 00:07:14,914 --> 00:07:17,273 Speaker 3: or accessories. And I'm very proud to look you in 155 00:07:17,314 --> 00:07:19,074 Speaker 3: the eye and say I was able to achieve that 156 00:07:19,194 --> 00:07:19,754 Speaker 3: I did it. 157 00:07:20,314 --> 00:07:24,554 Speaker 1: So you've made this decision late twenty twenty four. Did 158 00:07:24,594 --> 00:07:27,153 Speaker 1: you run out and do a massive shop first? Did 159 00:07:27,194 --> 00:07:29,434 Speaker 1: you do a wardrobe clean out? Check what you do 160 00:07:29,474 --> 00:07:31,074 Speaker 1: and don't have what you might need more of? 161 00:07:31,474 --> 00:07:33,674 Speaker 2: That would have been the smart thing to do. No. 162 00:07:33,754 --> 00:07:35,714 Speaker 3: I just went and I looked my husband in the eye, 163 00:07:35,754 --> 00:07:37,674 Speaker 3: and I can't break promises to anger, So I said, 164 00:07:38,154 --> 00:07:41,153 Speaker 3: I am doing this. The one thing that probably was 165 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:43,794 Speaker 3: a little bit of a rocky start was and he 166 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:45,714 Speaker 3: had to pull me up on it. Maybe the third 167 00:07:45,754 --> 00:07:51,034 Speaker 3: week of jan we'd had about I'm not exaggerating, fifteen. 168 00:07:50,474 --> 00:07:52,594 Speaker 2: Parcels arrived to the house that were. 169 00:07:52,474 --> 00:07:55,594 Speaker 3: All for my daughter, who would have been maybe one 170 00:07:55,754 --> 00:07:59,154 Speaker 3: eighteen months at the time you redirected, He said, the dope. 171 00:07:59,354 --> 00:08:02,074 Speaker 3: I love that you want to challenge yourself with this. Hey, 172 00:08:02,074 --> 00:08:04,274 Speaker 3: it'd be great for the family bank balance. We had 173 00:08:04,274 --> 00:08:06,314 Speaker 3: a renovation coming up. This is wonderful. 174 00:08:07,274 --> 00:08:10,274 Speaker 2: Can't just redirect all the money you've saved for yourself 175 00:08:10,634 --> 00:08:11,794 Speaker 2: to Lucia. 176 00:08:11,474 --> 00:08:13,354 Speaker 1: Especially when they grow so fast, you. 177 00:08:13,354 --> 00:08:16,514 Speaker 2: Can buying her eighty dollar jumper? Oh my, am I dumb? 178 00:08:16,714 --> 00:08:17,234 Speaker 2: Like I'm dumb. 179 00:08:17,354 --> 00:08:20,233 Speaker 3: That's why I had to cut myself off at the knees. 180 00:08:20,434 --> 00:08:22,154 Speaker 1: So then what happened with her? I mean, this is 181 00:08:22,154 --> 00:08:24,273 Speaker 1: getting off. Bet you could just get her like a 182 00:08:24,314 --> 00:08:25,394 Speaker 1: limit or essential so. 183 00:08:25,393 --> 00:08:29,594 Speaker 3: Well exactly, and just having him lay that out nicely 184 00:08:29,594 --> 00:08:32,794 Speaker 3: for me again it made me recalibrate, why am I 185 00:08:32,834 --> 00:08:33,754 Speaker 3: spending this money? 186 00:08:33,794 --> 00:08:37,554 Speaker 2: Why am I feeling this urge of retail therapy? Am I? 187 00:08:37,714 --> 00:08:40,354 Speaker 3: Why am I seeking dopamine in this way? So after 188 00:08:40,434 --> 00:08:42,594 Speaker 3: he sort of pulled me up again, we hadn't even 189 00:08:42,594 --> 00:08:44,834 Speaker 3: cracked fair at that point I was able to just 190 00:08:45,634 --> 00:08:47,954 Speaker 3: really take a second when I added anything. 191 00:08:47,674 --> 00:08:49,514 Speaker 2: To color by quitting anything, right. 192 00:08:49,554 --> 00:08:51,634 Speaker 1: I think the start is the hardest and you fall 193 00:08:51,674 --> 00:08:53,434 Speaker 1: and you get back up, and then once you keep 194 00:08:53,474 --> 00:08:54,914 Speaker 1: going the longer, you know, it's like when you get 195 00:08:54,954 --> 00:08:55,954 Speaker 1: back into the gym, it's. 196 00:08:55,794 --> 00:08:56,714 Speaker 2: Like this sucks. This sacks. 197 00:08:56,714 --> 00:09:00,274 Speaker 3: Actually I like it absolutely, And having any external motivation 198 00:09:00,394 --> 00:09:03,154 Speaker 3: is wonderful, or external support is wonderful. It's got to 199 00:09:03,194 --> 00:09:05,754 Speaker 3: be driven from here, from you because if it's not, 200 00:09:06,274 --> 00:09:07,074 Speaker 3: forget about it. 201 00:09:07,634 --> 00:09:10,234 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel we need to have a session offline 202 00:09:10,234 --> 00:09:13,034 Speaker 1: as well. So what were your boundaries? Were you allowed 203 00:09:13,034 --> 00:09:16,114 Speaker 1: to shop secondhand? Were you allowed to swap with friends? 204 00:09:16,434 --> 00:09:19,594 Speaker 1: Were their restrictions? Was there, you know, set guideline. 205 00:09:19,794 --> 00:09:24,154 Speaker 3: The only thing I gave myself leeway around was events. 206 00:09:24,314 --> 00:09:26,754 Speaker 3: I am a radio host, I amc a lot, I'm 207 00:09:26,874 --> 00:09:30,394 Speaker 3: saw a civil marriage celebrant, which does require some fancy things. 208 00:09:30,394 --> 00:09:32,234 Speaker 2: You know, whatever might have been coming up. 209 00:09:32,234 --> 00:09:34,434 Speaker 3: There may have been events where I did not have 210 00:09:34,514 --> 00:09:37,834 Speaker 3: something that I felt great in. Let's be real, I 211 00:09:37,914 --> 00:09:39,834 Speaker 3: had closes, but maybe something I didn't feel great in. 212 00:09:40,474 --> 00:09:43,394 Speaker 3: I said to myself, I'm allowed to hire. Okay, we 213 00:09:43,474 --> 00:09:46,154 Speaker 3: are so lucky in Newcastle. One of my best girlfriends 214 00:09:46,394 --> 00:09:48,474 Speaker 3: started the first dress higher business. 215 00:09:48,634 --> 00:09:51,874 Speaker 2: We can go in and try on. Oh that's so important. 216 00:09:51,954 --> 00:09:55,154 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm a pretty I think I'm a pretty standard 217 00:09:55,394 --> 00:09:58,234 Speaker 3: ten twelve. But I'm just saying that every brand is 218 00:09:58,274 --> 00:10:00,714 Speaker 3: different shoes side the cut. 219 00:10:00,674 --> 00:10:01,714 Speaker 1: Or you don't know if it's going to go with 220 00:10:01,714 --> 00:10:03,154 Speaker 1: the shoes you've got in mind, like to try it 221 00:10:03,194 --> 00:10:03,834 Speaker 1: on in real life? 222 00:10:03,954 --> 00:10:04,714 Speaker 2: Okay, hiring. 223 00:10:04,954 --> 00:10:06,914 Speaker 3: So hiring was the one thing I was allowed to do. 224 00:10:07,234 --> 00:10:11,194 Speaker 3: Other than that, there were no other loopholes or restrictions. 225 00:10:11,234 --> 00:10:13,314 Speaker 3: It was only to hire for special events. 226 00:10:13,354 --> 00:10:16,834 Speaker 1: Wow, I says, okay, So can I ask about underwear? 227 00:10:16,914 --> 00:10:18,074 Speaker 1: We were like to have you underwear? 228 00:10:18,394 --> 00:10:21,754 Speaker 2: No, and it's again, I've got a g string I wore. 229 00:10:21,834 --> 00:10:24,154 Speaker 1: Sorry everyone, but like I'm kintiquing when I was twenty one, 230 00:10:24,194 --> 00:10:24,914 Speaker 1: I'm forty three. 231 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:28,234 Speaker 2: You still have that. You must be an absolute slave 232 00:10:28,314 --> 00:10:30,754 Speaker 2: to the washbag. You must love it. It was here alone. 233 00:10:30,794 --> 00:10:31,834 Speaker 2: Now it's just great. 234 00:10:32,394 --> 00:10:34,234 Speaker 1: But it's just such a good one to wear under 235 00:10:34,274 --> 00:10:37,194 Speaker 1: like tight things anyway you can get through in a year. 236 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:38,594 Speaker 2: So it's funny you say that. 237 00:10:38,674 --> 00:10:40,994 Speaker 3: I thought you might ask, what's the first thing you're 238 00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:45,274 Speaker 3: gonna buy on your break and underwear would be top 239 00:10:45,314 --> 00:10:49,274 Speaker 3: of the least because I only wear booty bamboo under ease. 240 00:10:49,794 --> 00:10:52,594 Speaker 3: I threw away all the g's all the oh, I 241 00:10:52,634 --> 00:10:55,474 Speaker 3: have one seamless. 242 00:10:54,874 --> 00:10:57,434 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna take avoid stuff. You need 243 00:10:57,434 --> 00:10:58,114 Speaker 1: different cuts. 244 00:10:58,154 --> 00:11:00,434 Speaker 2: I have dabbled in no underwear, and I just I'm 245 00:11:00,434 --> 00:11:03,874 Speaker 2: a little concerned about that. So there's one real situation. 246 00:11:04,554 --> 00:11:07,394 Speaker 3: Yeah, so no underwear again, Lee, I knew, give me 247 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:09,114 Speaker 3: an inch, I'll take a mirk. If I bought some 248 00:11:09,154 --> 00:11:11,514 Speaker 3: booty underwear, I'd then go, oh, but that's single it 249 00:11:11,634 --> 00:11:12,074 Speaker 3: like I could. 250 00:11:12,194 --> 00:11:14,474 Speaker 2: I hope that's had like thirty pairs. Nah, that's the thing, 251 00:11:14,514 --> 00:11:15,434 Speaker 2: only about twelve. 252 00:11:15,714 --> 00:11:17,674 Speaker 3: And if I wasn't up to date with me wash cycle, 253 00:11:17,954 --> 00:11:19,194 Speaker 3: I'm wearing period undies. 254 00:11:19,194 --> 00:11:20,474 Speaker 2: I'm wearing bikini bottoms. 255 00:11:20,474 --> 00:11:23,434 Speaker 1: It was it was challenging putting them inside out. 256 00:11:23,514 --> 00:11:24,954 Speaker 2: I liked the challenge. 257 00:11:24,954 --> 00:11:27,714 Speaker 3: I had you sick motivation to go, well, this is 258 00:11:27,714 --> 00:11:29,834 Speaker 3: your punishment for not being on top of the yes, 259 00:11:29,874 --> 00:11:31,954 Speaker 3: but good on you for finding a way around it 260 00:11:31,994 --> 00:11:33,234 Speaker 3: so and not caving in. 261 00:11:33,314 --> 00:11:38,714 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So true. 262 00:11:43,714 --> 00:11:45,474 Speaker 1: You talked about you had a lot of stuff, So 263 00:11:45,514 --> 00:11:47,994 Speaker 1: what did your wardrobe look like when you started this? Like, 264 00:11:48,274 --> 00:11:50,674 Speaker 1: did you have a lot of clothes? You have beautiful 265 00:11:50,674 --> 00:11:53,194 Speaker 1: event dresses that you've kind of mentioned. What did your 266 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:55,234 Speaker 1: wardrobe look like as a whole in terms of what 267 00:11:55,314 --> 00:11:56,394 Speaker 1: you had to work with? 268 00:11:56,714 --> 00:11:59,874 Speaker 3: So I think I probably tend more towards the casual 269 00:11:59,954 --> 00:12:02,714 Speaker 3: side or the really fancy dresses. I don't have a 270 00:12:02,914 --> 00:12:07,194 Speaker 3: huge scope of stuff, but I had such a quantity 271 00:12:07,314 --> 00:12:10,834 Speaker 3: that again the motivation to stop adding to that pile. Yes, 272 00:12:11,034 --> 00:12:13,714 Speaker 3: I love Gorman when we talk about loud, when we 273 00:12:13,714 --> 00:12:16,074 Speaker 3: talk about fun patent print texture. 274 00:12:16,114 --> 00:12:18,354 Speaker 1: But you weren't allowed to thrift well because Gorman's everywhere 275 00:12:18,354 --> 00:12:18,834 Speaker 1: for thrifting. 276 00:12:18,954 --> 00:12:21,314 Speaker 2: Don't help me, don't tell me. Okay, you're allowed, now 277 00:12:21,434 --> 00:12:23,314 Speaker 2: you know what. I'm glad I didn't know that because 278 00:12:23,314 --> 00:12:25,554 Speaker 2: that would have been a temptation. I probably wouldn't have 279 00:12:25,594 --> 00:12:27,394 Speaker 2: been able to the New Year. 280 00:12:27,474 --> 00:12:29,914 Speaker 1: If you're going to the sustainability element is, you know, 281 00:12:29,914 --> 00:12:32,194 Speaker 1: a huge part. Gorman is really good to. 282 00:12:32,154 --> 00:12:33,514 Speaker 2: Thank you for the tip. 283 00:12:33,994 --> 00:12:37,554 Speaker 3: Similarly, I guess the issue with buying online marketplace your 284 00:12:37,594 --> 00:12:40,834 Speaker 3: d pops because I just feel like every brand different sizing. 285 00:12:41,274 --> 00:12:43,394 Speaker 3: So now that I know what I am in a Gorman, 286 00:12:43,474 --> 00:12:45,954 Speaker 3: I feel great in Mormon. So when I look at 287 00:12:45,994 --> 00:12:50,074 Speaker 3: my wardrobe as a whole. It looks like Joseph and 288 00:12:50,074 --> 00:12:53,474 Speaker 3: the Technicolor dream coat was cut up and then scattered 289 00:12:53,474 --> 00:12:57,874 Speaker 3: across a few different garments. It is chaos and fun 290 00:12:57,914 --> 00:12:58,514 Speaker 3: and drama. 291 00:12:58,594 --> 00:13:00,994 Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. So you knew you had enough 292 00:13:00,994 --> 00:13:04,434 Speaker 1: to play with. Did it get you creating more? You know, 293 00:13:04,594 --> 00:13:07,474 Speaker 1: unique combinations that you because For me? I mean I 294 00:13:07,474 --> 00:13:09,754 Speaker 1: have a lot of clothes as well, but I love 295 00:13:09,794 --> 00:13:12,114 Speaker 1: when I have the thought or the time to go. Oh. 296 00:13:12,194 --> 00:13:13,794 Speaker 1: I would never put those two together, and it's a 297 00:13:13,794 --> 00:13:16,074 Speaker 1: whole new outfit. But oftentimes I just go that top 298 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:16,914 Speaker 1: those bottoms. 299 00:13:17,074 --> 00:13:18,994 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's a trap I think I fell into. 300 00:13:19,074 --> 00:13:20,994 Speaker 3: That's why I felt like I need more stuff. 301 00:13:21,034 --> 00:13:23,234 Speaker 2: I need more stuff. I don't have many things. 302 00:13:23,554 --> 00:13:26,234 Speaker 3: And again this challenge made me open my eyes a 303 00:13:26,314 --> 00:13:28,434 Speaker 3: little bit to getting more creative. 304 00:13:28,554 --> 00:13:30,234 Speaker 2: I love color blocking. 305 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:32,274 Speaker 3: So I love wearing a pink tea with a pink 306 00:13:32,314 --> 00:13:35,074 Speaker 3: pattern short, which I don't think I ever used to do, yes, 307 00:13:35,154 --> 00:13:37,114 Speaker 3: because I just thought that was too much. 308 00:13:37,314 --> 00:13:38,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, I embrace the. 309 00:13:38,394 --> 00:13:41,034 Speaker 1: Too much and his style has changed because of it, 310 00:13:41,114 --> 00:13:41,594 Speaker 1: I think so. 311 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:43,474 Speaker 3: And it's funny because I don't know if I would 312 00:13:43,514 --> 00:13:46,674 Speaker 3: have been able to articulate what the style was, but 313 00:13:46,754 --> 00:13:48,834 Speaker 3: in terms of now opening my eyes and feeling a 314 00:13:48,834 --> 00:13:51,953 Speaker 3: bit more liberated, feeling a bit more quirky, and also 315 00:13:52,034 --> 00:13:55,034 Speaker 3: not caring because well, the alternative is I wear something 316 00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:56,874 Speaker 3: I feel like I've worn a hundred times, so I'm 317 00:13:56,914 --> 00:13:58,914 Speaker 3: going to wear this, or I break the rules, or 318 00:13:58,954 --> 00:13:59,554 Speaker 3: I break the rule. 319 00:13:59,754 --> 00:14:00,714 Speaker 2: That was not an option. 320 00:14:01,074 --> 00:14:03,674 Speaker 1: Did you tell everyone, like your friends and your colleagues 321 00:14:03,714 --> 00:14:04,834 Speaker 1: and stuff? Everyone knew? 322 00:14:04,994 --> 00:14:08,274 Speaker 2: Yes, I did it on air, and I have some accountability. 323 00:14:08,394 --> 00:14:09,754 Speaker 3: I did it on air, I did it on my 324 00:14:09,994 --> 00:14:13,394 Speaker 3: social media, which will probably lend itself to the one 325 00:14:13,794 --> 00:14:14,474 Speaker 3: loop pole. 326 00:14:14,594 --> 00:14:15,314 Speaker 2: I want you to. 327 00:14:15,754 --> 00:14:18,514 Speaker 1: Maybe give me a a let's go there to know 328 00:14:19,154 --> 00:14:20,314 Speaker 1: what happened. 329 00:14:20,714 --> 00:14:22,354 Speaker 2: Would have been June. 330 00:14:22,514 --> 00:14:26,554 Speaker 3: I reckon midway through the challenge and I was training 331 00:14:26,594 --> 00:14:27,634 Speaker 3: with one of my best mates. 332 00:14:27,674 --> 00:14:29,714 Speaker 2: He's a pet. I'd signed up. 333 00:14:29,594 --> 00:14:32,634 Speaker 3: For two classes a week with him and for some 334 00:14:32,674 --> 00:14:33,874 Speaker 3: of the activities we were doing. 335 00:14:33,914 --> 00:14:36,714 Speaker 2: He looked down at my runners. They were new, balanced 336 00:14:37,394 --> 00:14:39,394 Speaker 2: and well cool. 337 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:42,234 Speaker 3: He looked at them and he said, Jess, these are 338 00:14:42,274 --> 00:14:43,234 Speaker 3: not great for training. 339 00:14:43,314 --> 00:14:45,514 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, they for like walking around a park 340 00:14:45,554 --> 00:14:47,874 Speaker 1: with the coffee, you know, kind of have like assets. 341 00:14:47,714 --> 00:14:49,314 Speaker 2: It's like funny, you say that. 342 00:14:49,754 --> 00:14:52,034 Speaker 3: His exact words, he went, just what we're trying to do. 343 00:14:52,074 --> 00:14:54,314 Speaker 3: We're trying to build muscle, We're doing deep squats, we're. 344 00:14:54,154 --> 00:14:55,834 Speaker 2: Doing X y Z. I wasn't really listening. 345 00:14:56,154 --> 00:14:58,754 Speaker 3: He was basically saying, these shoes are not good enough 346 00:14:58,794 --> 00:14:59,034 Speaker 3: for you. 347 00:14:59,114 --> 00:15:02,114 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we were trying to run, yeah, whatever it 348 00:15:02,194 --> 00:15:02,674 Speaker 2: might be. 349 00:15:02,754 --> 00:15:06,154 Speaker 3: And he said, genuinely, you're going to potentially do some 350 00:15:06,194 --> 00:15:10,034 Speaker 3: structural damage your body, let alone your foot, let alone. 351 00:15:10,314 --> 00:15:14,354 Speaker 2: Justification, I said to him, kind of, I cannot. I 352 00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:16,754 Speaker 2: am doing a no spend challenge and I'm not breaking 353 00:15:16,794 --> 00:15:19,194 Speaker 2: it on freaking runners, Like I don't even like the gym. 354 00:15:19,194 --> 00:15:20,234 Speaker 2: Why would I break it. 355 00:15:20,194 --> 00:15:23,434 Speaker 1: On health product. It's like if my glass is broken. 356 00:15:23,474 --> 00:15:26,114 Speaker 2: I was doing it. That's what he was trying to say. 357 00:15:26,194 --> 00:15:28,234 Speaker 3: But I said no, because if I go to the 358 00:15:28,274 --> 00:15:30,994 Speaker 3: shops and I try on a pair of new Runners, 359 00:15:31,034 --> 00:15:32,834 Speaker 3: I'm then going to go into the shop next door 360 00:15:32,954 --> 00:15:35,114 Speaker 3: and the shop next door. But I took it to 361 00:15:35,194 --> 00:15:37,674 Speaker 3: Instagram and everyone was asking to see a picture of 362 00:15:37,714 --> 00:15:40,674 Speaker 3: the Runners. People were confusing the fact they were beige 363 00:15:40,714 --> 00:15:41,474 Speaker 3: that they were dirty. 364 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,234 Speaker 2: Going just put them in the wash. It's not the 365 00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:46,314 Speaker 2: look of them. I'm going to break my man car exactly. 366 00:15:46,354 --> 00:15:48,434 Speaker 3: Everyone was really going at the look. I said, no, 367 00:15:48,594 --> 00:15:51,794 Speaker 3: you're not justifying it well enough. Yes, But about two 368 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:56,074 Speaker 3: weeks after that, genuinely, the structure of the heel, part 369 00:15:56,114 --> 00:15:59,834 Speaker 3: of the runners, it had busted through the fabric, so 370 00:15:59,954 --> 00:16:03,674 Speaker 3: gave me a blister. It was rubbing raw, and I went, oh, no, 371 00:16:03,714 --> 00:16:06,794 Speaker 3: we're not putting up with blisters. That's where I justified 372 00:16:07,194 --> 00:16:09,714 Speaker 3: this is now okay health for a blister. 373 00:16:10,554 --> 00:16:11,154 Speaker 2: It's true. 374 00:16:11,314 --> 00:16:13,194 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, I'm older than you, 375 00:16:13,234 --> 00:16:15,194 Speaker 1: and back in the day when private health insurance was 376 00:16:15,234 --> 00:16:16,994 Speaker 1: really good, your runners were covered. 377 00:16:17,234 --> 00:16:18,514 Speaker 2: I thought, you say blisters were covered. 378 00:16:18,954 --> 00:16:21,634 Speaker 1: Runners were covered, so that means it is medicine. 379 00:16:21,674 --> 00:16:25,794 Speaker 3: So I have held on to that lead, honestly since 380 00:16:25,834 --> 00:16:28,834 Speaker 3: I finished the challenge. I genuinely thought, can I say 381 00:16:28,874 --> 00:16:29,354 Speaker 3: I did it? 382 00:16:29,394 --> 00:16:34,394 Speaker 2: Because I did it? And I bought assex because said 383 00:16:34,474 --> 00:16:35,034 Speaker 2: that was. 384 00:16:35,034 --> 00:16:36,514 Speaker 1: I was going to say, someone should have taken you 385 00:16:36,554 --> 00:16:38,954 Speaker 1: blindfolded and just have you fitted and paid for them 386 00:16:38,994 --> 00:16:40,714 Speaker 1: and you weren't allowed to look at any shops. 387 00:16:40,754 --> 00:16:44,354 Speaker 3: Oh see that, No, it was I think by that stage. 388 00:16:44,394 --> 00:16:45,914 Speaker 3: Now we're sort of towards the back end of the year, 389 00:16:45,914 --> 00:16:49,674 Speaker 3: it's July. Maybe at this point I felt so good 390 00:16:49,794 --> 00:16:52,874 Speaker 3: in I'm nearly, I'm halfway, I'm over the humph, I'm 391 00:16:52,914 --> 00:16:53,754 Speaker 3: halfway through this. 392 00:16:53,914 --> 00:16:56,754 Speaker 2: I'm more than halfway. I can do runners and get 393 00:16:56,794 --> 00:16:57,274 Speaker 2: out of here. 394 00:16:57,674 --> 00:17:00,234 Speaker 1: And I did, yes, and you didn't break it in 395 00:17:00,314 --> 00:17:01,154 Speaker 1: any other way. 396 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:04,353 Speaker 3: So okay, this is another loophole, and what your judgment on. 397 00:17:05,434 --> 00:17:06,634 Speaker 3: We went to Italy for three. 398 00:17:06,513 --> 00:17:08,793 Speaker 2: Weeks holidays is different. 399 00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:11,394 Speaker 3: And people said to me my husband included, who is 400 00:17:11,394 --> 00:17:12,634 Speaker 3: my number one support person? 401 00:17:13,154 --> 00:17:15,834 Speaker 2: Oh, Italy doesn't count. No, it doesn't by yourself are 402 00:17:15,954 --> 00:17:17,554 Speaker 2: it's not your real life. It's a souvenir. 403 00:17:17,874 --> 00:17:22,154 Speaker 3: And I said, no, Angus, because life is. I'm about 404 00:17:22,194 --> 00:17:24,474 Speaker 3: to get real life, guru philosophical on your way. 405 00:17:24,514 --> 00:17:27,874 Speaker 2: Hey, life's going to throw your challenges. Just because it 406 00:17:27,874 --> 00:17:28,274 Speaker 2: throws a. 407 00:17:28,234 --> 00:17:30,314 Speaker 1: Curveball your way doesn't mean you can make an excuse 408 00:17:30,434 --> 00:17:34,114 Speaker 1: to veer off. The part howepted you are makes it okay. 409 00:17:34,434 --> 00:17:38,554 Speaker 2: But we get to Florence, we're walking along the pond 410 00:17:38,594 --> 00:17:41,154 Speaker 2: of Echo. I go, oh my god, oh my god, 411 00:17:41,354 --> 00:17:44,194 Speaker 2: I love a souvenir. And I said to Angus, hey 412 00:17:44,314 --> 00:17:46,674 Speaker 2: does it count if you buy me a present? 413 00:17:46,794 --> 00:17:47,274 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 414 00:17:47,314 --> 00:17:49,834 Speaker 2: Presidents are allowed, so he brought me a ring. Ah, 415 00:17:49,834 --> 00:17:54,234 Speaker 2: that's allowed. That's allowed. It's a ring because it's not 416 00:17:54,274 --> 00:17:55,394 Speaker 2: going to end up in landfill. 417 00:17:55,434 --> 00:17:58,114 Speaker 1: Because like I know, it wasn't just the sustainability, but 418 00:17:58,234 --> 00:18:00,594 Speaker 1: you know it's the buying by don't don't wear a 419 00:18:00,674 --> 00:18:01,554 Speaker 1: ring yours forever. 420 00:18:02,554 --> 00:18:04,834 Speaker 3: It is the most spectacular ring. I should have worn 421 00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:08,074 Speaker 3: it for you today. It's he's big green they are 422 00:18:08,114 --> 00:18:08,954 Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. 423 00:18:09,074 --> 00:18:10,394 Speaker 2: She would have turned around and close your eyes. 424 00:18:10,394 --> 00:18:13,073 Speaker 3: And then he's like, we're the most wonderful interaction with 425 00:18:13,114 --> 00:18:15,914 Speaker 3: the warman. She was doting over my daughter because her 426 00:18:15,954 --> 00:18:18,793 Speaker 3: name's Lucias or the Italians were nuts for her, so 427 00:18:19,034 --> 00:18:19,394 Speaker 3: thank you. 428 00:18:19,434 --> 00:18:22,554 Speaker 2: They almost two bug bears that I actually be in Florence. 429 00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:25,034 Speaker 1: I saw, but I saw earrings, and then we walked 430 00:18:25,034 --> 00:18:27,634 Speaker 1: six hundred million kilometers and then the next morning I 431 00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:28,954 Speaker 1: was like, I must have them, and my husband was 432 00:18:28,994 --> 00:18:30,714 Speaker 1: like no, and I dragged him. Couldn't remember where it was, 433 00:18:30,754 --> 00:18:32,114 Speaker 1: and then when we got there, I said, I want them. 434 00:18:32,114 --> 00:18:34,513 Speaker 3: I see I reckon, that's a great little caveat to 435 00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:36,674 Speaker 3: give yourself if you are trying to maybe dip your 436 00:18:36,714 --> 00:18:39,353 Speaker 3: toe in this pool. Give yourself twenty four hours if 437 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,194 Speaker 3: you are still thinking about it. 438 00:18:41,234 --> 00:18:41,714 Speaker 2: I found them. 439 00:18:41,714 --> 00:18:42,914 Speaker 1: It was like in their labyrinth anyway. 440 00:18:42,954 --> 00:18:46,554 Speaker 2: I love that justified Yeah, but he's he's the non spendus. 441 00:18:46,554 --> 00:18:48,994 Speaker 2: It was absolutely not. I'm like, they're cubics of Conius. 442 00:18:49,034 --> 00:18:49,754 Speaker 2: Buy them for me. 443 00:18:50,154 --> 00:18:54,074 Speaker 1: Okay, So what were your triggers before or what did 444 00:18:54,114 --> 00:18:59,114 Speaker 1: you find tempting you? Scrolling, stress, boredom, social pressure. You 445 00:18:59,114 --> 00:19:00,514 Speaker 1: don't seem like a social pressure kind. 446 00:19:00,394 --> 00:19:02,154 Speaker 3: Of gain no to me, And I wonder if you 447 00:19:02,194 --> 00:19:03,994 Speaker 3: experienced this as well, Lee, because you would go to 448 00:19:04,034 --> 00:19:06,474 Speaker 3: so many events where you're expected to dress up or 449 00:19:06,474 --> 00:19:08,074 Speaker 3: look a certain way. You just want to feel a 450 00:19:08,074 --> 00:19:11,154 Speaker 3: certain way. I always was finding, you know, through my 451 00:19:11,194 --> 00:19:13,593 Speaker 3: twenties and early thirties, if an event was coming up 452 00:19:13,634 --> 00:19:16,034 Speaker 3: and I was shopping for the event, could never find anything. 453 00:19:16,234 --> 00:19:20,434 Speaker 2: Way, when the event has the time pressure, couldn't find anything, yeap. 454 00:19:20,514 --> 00:19:22,714 Speaker 2: That's why I think hiring has just filled that gap. 455 00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:22,954 Speaker 1: View. 456 00:19:23,634 --> 00:19:25,874 Speaker 3: But up until that point, I just could never find 457 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:28,434 Speaker 3: anythingh my god. So I switched my brain into going, oh, well, 458 00:19:28,434 --> 00:19:30,474 Speaker 3: when I see something I like, I'll buy it, yes 459 00:19:30,714 --> 00:19:33,033 Speaker 3: and have it in my wardrobe. That's how you end 460 00:19:33,114 --> 00:19:36,034 Speaker 3: up with three Leo Lin dresses in one purchase. That's 461 00:19:36,074 --> 00:19:37,833 Speaker 3: me for no actual event coming up. 462 00:19:37,914 --> 00:19:41,434 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm like, ooh that's cute, that's different. 463 00:19:41,474 --> 00:19:42,954 Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Oh I'm not coming back here. 464 00:19:42,994 --> 00:19:44,313 Speaker 2: I never get together to shop on my own. I've 465 00:19:44,314 --> 00:19:44,954 Speaker 2: got a little kid. 466 00:19:45,034 --> 00:19:47,554 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll find somewhere to wear at an event 467 00:19:47,594 --> 00:19:48,154 Speaker 3: will come around. 468 00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:49,714 Speaker 2: But then you just end up accumulating some. 469 00:19:50,954 --> 00:19:54,033 Speaker 1: Wait I do, but then I had another like a 470 00:19:54,074 --> 00:19:55,314 Speaker 1: million other things. 471 00:19:55,234 --> 00:19:58,234 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, So yeah, I probably bought them and social 472 00:19:58,274 --> 00:20:00,714 Speaker 3: media as well, but just because I would see so. 473 00:20:00,714 --> 00:20:02,674 Speaker 1: Many you know you did you already sit your algorithm? 474 00:20:02,754 --> 00:20:04,274 Speaker 3: How do you I was going to say, your algorithm 475 00:20:04,314 --> 00:20:05,874 Speaker 3: starts knowing you so well, you'd only about it up 476 00:20:05,914 --> 00:20:06,914 Speaker 3: Gorman Leolin these. 477 00:20:07,794 --> 00:20:10,114 Speaker 1: Well maybe at the start of twenty twenty five you couldn't. 478 00:20:10,154 --> 00:20:12,634 Speaker 1: But there's in settings. It's reset algorithm. Because I got 479 00:20:12,674 --> 00:20:16,114 Speaker 1: real deep in ADHD memes and also best friend things 480 00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:17,914 Speaker 1: because I haven't seen my friend anywhere, and I was 481 00:20:17,954 --> 00:20:20,354 Speaker 1: like this is great, but like now I'm in a funnel, so. 482 00:20:20,634 --> 00:20:23,714 Speaker 2: A co chamber. Yeah, so what wipes it clean for you? 483 00:20:23,794 --> 00:20:26,674 Speaker 1: And then it's just like accounts you follow, but then 484 00:20:26,714 --> 00:20:28,874 Speaker 1: you need to start stopping. I'm like salad and like, 485 00:20:29,234 --> 00:20:30,634 Speaker 1: I know things that you don't buy. 486 00:20:30,754 --> 00:20:33,634 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Oh that would have been handy, Like that 487 00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:34,314 Speaker 3: would have been handy. 488 00:20:34,354 --> 00:20:35,154 Speaker 2: That's I've always wanted. 489 00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:36,874 Speaker 3: It reminds me of I used to one of my 490 00:20:36,874 --> 00:20:38,994 Speaker 3: best mates, Kate is a stylist. 491 00:20:38,754 --> 00:20:40,194 Speaker 2: And oh you had to unfollow her. 492 00:20:40,994 --> 00:20:42,634 Speaker 3: Well. She was one of my biggest triggers because she 493 00:20:42,634 --> 00:20:44,754 Speaker 3: would find all the sales and she'd send me a 494 00:20:45,074 --> 00:20:46,274 Speaker 3: twenty five percent. 495 00:20:46,034 --> 00:20:49,434 Speaker 2: Off Gorman's you send them to you? No, she would, 496 00:20:49,634 --> 00:20:51,154 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. I said, you're just stop 497 00:20:51,234 --> 00:20:52,114 Speaker 2: doing that. Oh right before? 498 00:20:52,194 --> 00:20:54,314 Speaker 3: So that was again one of my triggers. She's finding 499 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:56,273 Speaker 3: all these deals for me. I'm going, Kate, we've got it. 500 00:20:56,354 --> 00:20:57,994 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I'll talk to you in a year. 501 00:20:58,154 --> 00:21:00,434 Speaker 3: Yes, but I've wanted her sometimes to come over to 502 00:21:00,474 --> 00:21:01,394 Speaker 3: my wardrobe. 503 00:21:01,034 --> 00:21:02,754 Speaker 2: To do a big reset. I'm like, should we start 504 00:21:02,754 --> 00:21:06,394 Speaker 2: from scratch? How fun would that be to build from now? Yeah? 505 00:21:06,794 --> 00:21:09,714 Speaker 3: No, but no, where we've come to a place of 506 00:21:09,754 --> 00:21:11,994 Speaker 3: real acceptance and to be honest, real happiness. 507 00:21:12,074 --> 00:21:14,833 Speaker 1: So I want to ask did you handle any moments 508 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:17,154 Speaker 1: where like, did you have anything tailored or repaired? Or 509 00:21:17,154 --> 00:21:18,313 Speaker 1: did you have enough to play with that. 510 00:21:18,314 --> 00:21:20,914 Speaker 2: You were just like, eh, funny you asked that again once. 511 00:21:20,994 --> 00:21:23,313 Speaker 3: I so I mentioned kind and the PT and I 512 00:21:23,434 --> 00:21:25,194 Speaker 3: just thought of was screwing him around too much. So 513 00:21:25,234 --> 00:21:28,714 Speaker 3: I had to rethink my attitude to exercise. I think 514 00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:31,234 Speaker 3: you're going to freak out at this, Lee, but I 515 00:21:31,274 --> 00:21:33,474 Speaker 3: started waking up at ten past four to go to 516 00:21:33,514 --> 00:21:35,674 Speaker 3: the gym before my radio show. 517 00:21:35,674 --> 00:21:37,553 Speaker 1: Time did start on the radio at six am. How 518 00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:38,594 Speaker 1: was your child too? 519 00:21:38,914 --> 00:21:39,714 Speaker 2: Oh no, but. 520 00:21:39,674 --> 00:21:42,513 Speaker 3: This is the thing I couldn't. I couldn't find time 521 00:21:42,754 --> 00:21:45,874 Speaker 3: when I was in mum mode during the day. 522 00:21:46,354 --> 00:21:48,034 Speaker 2: No, that's why I don't exercise. It happy. 523 00:21:48,114 --> 00:21:50,834 Speaker 3: For six years, I made too many excuses. I just 524 00:21:50,994 --> 00:21:53,434 Speaker 3: kept finding a reason not to try, not to exercise, 525 00:21:53,514 --> 00:21:55,033 Speaker 3: not even to bloody go for a walk. 526 00:21:55,354 --> 00:21:56,434 Speaker 2: So I went. The only time of. 527 00:21:56,474 --> 00:21:59,794 Speaker 3: Day I haven't tried is before the show, and I'm 528 00:21:59,794 --> 00:22:00,794 Speaker 3: a morning person, babe. 529 00:22:00,834 --> 00:22:02,914 Speaker 2: So it has worked beautifully so. 530 00:22:02,994 --> 00:22:06,114 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, though this sounds so gross to say, one of 531 00:22:06,114 --> 00:22:08,593 Speaker 3: the annoying side effects is I lost a little bit 532 00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:10,114 Speaker 3: of weight around the tummy, around. 533 00:22:09,834 --> 00:22:13,314 Speaker 2: The hips, my pants. But sure, all these things. 534 00:22:13,314 --> 00:22:16,034 Speaker 3: So yes, I had to get very clever with finding 535 00:22:16,114 --> 00:22:20,714 Speaker 3: Taylor's a belt here there I hate a belt when 536 00:22:20,754 --> 00:22:23,154 Speaker 3: you've got ninety seconds to pee, When Sabrina car is 537 00:22:23,194 --> 00:22:25,874 Speaker 3: running out taking a belt on and off, I could 538 00:22:25,914 --> 00:22:27,834 Speaker 3: not do it. Challenging, but yes, I had to get 539 00:22:27,834 --> 00:22:30,234 Speaker 3: some things tailored. And it makes you appreciate again. It 540 00:22:30,314 --> 00:22:32,394 Speaker 3: does these garments in a whole new way where once 541 00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:34,194 Speaker 3: I felt a bit yucky in them because. 542 00:22:34,074 --> 00:22:36,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they would have just sat there. Well, I go, God, 543 00:22:36,834 --> 00:22:37,554 Speaker 2: these pants. 544 00:22:37,354 --> 00:22:41,794 Speaker 1: And then they on you exactly, Oh my gosh, I do. 545 00:22:41,914 --> 00:22:44,394 Speaker 1: I do finally get things tailored now because I buy 546 00:22:44,434 --> 00:22:46,394 Speaker 1: things and I go, eh, they need to be taken 547 00:22:46,434 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 1: up or in and then they sit in a pile 548 00:22:47,754 --> 00:22:48,434 Speaker 1: for three years and. 549 00:22:48,394 --> 00:22:49,434 Speaker 2: Now I go straight. 550 00:22:49,474 --> 00:22:51,874 Speaker 1: They go in like a little boxing it and I 551 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,754 Speaker 1: go probably not a lot once every two months, yes, yes, 552 00:22:54,794 --> 00:22:56,074 Speaker 1: and do a big yes. 553 00:22:56,474 --> 00:22:58,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three or four things whatever, really and when 554 00:22:58,754 --> 00:23:00,674 Speaker 2: you find a good one, I've just got a good 555 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:03,634 Speaker 2: one in my area. She's so cheap, Okay, mine is. 556 00:23:03,634 --> 00:23:06,354 Speaker 1: A friend of a friend, so she's cheap per than 557 00:23:06,434 --> 00:23:09,634 Speaker 1: her normal because she's like actually like a like she's 558 00:23:09,674 --> 00:23:10,874 Speaker 1: a phenomenal dressmaker. 559 00:23:11,114 --> 00:23:14,234 Speaker 2: She's leather for me. I didn't know you could day 560 00:23:14,274 --> 00:23:17,914 Speaker 2: a leather. I didn't either oh my god, a great tailor. 561 00:23:17,714 --> 00:23:22,194 Speaker 1: Can Okay, So this came from over consumption and overspending. 562 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:27,514 Speaker 1: Where are you now a year on with consumerism, sustainability 563 00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:29,513 Speaker 1: and your view from here? 564 00:23:30,314 --> 00:23:33,994 Speaker 2: It totally made me rethink my wardrobe. 565 00:23:34,234 --> 00:23:37,513 Speaker 3: It made me rethink my consumption and as I touched 566 00:23:37,554 --> 00:23:40,594 Speaker 3: on before, you might think a challenge challenge like this 567 00:23:41,234 --> 00:23:43,994 Speaker 3: is really constricting, but I found it so liberating because 568 00:23:44,034 --> 00:23:48,354 Speaker 3: without the option of buying new things, it just made 569 00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:48,954 Speaker 3: me go. 570 00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:52,394 Speaker 2: So did you have time back energy massively? 571 00:23:53,154 --> 00:23:56,554 Speaker 3: Massively, let alone genuinely the bottom dollar Like, as I said, 572 00:23:56,714 --> 00:23:57,593 Speaker 3: we've got a little one. 573 00:23:57,674 --> 00:23:58,914 Speaker 2: We're undertaking a renovation. 574 00:23:58,994 --> 00:24:01,394 Speaker 3: Anyone who's renovated will know those things blow out and 575 00:24:01,394 --> 00:24:01,674 Speaker 3: I've got. 576 00:24:01,714 --> 00:24:02,954 Speaker 1: To get to buy homewores now. 577 00:24:03,154 --> 00:24:06,194 Speaker 3: Seriously, I went through my transaction history because I wanted 578 00:24:06,234 --> 00:24:08,954 Speaker 3: to bring you data. Unfortunately NAB wouldn't let me go 579 00:24:09,034 --> 00:24:11,394 Speaker 3: back to the start of twenty twenty five. I can 580 00:24:11,434 --> 00:24:12,754 Speaker 3: only do a financial. 581 00:24:12,394 --> 00:24:14,594 Speaker 2: Year, probably because it's like you don't want to know. 582 00:24:14,594 --> 00:24:17,074 Speaker 3: I don't know, but genuinely I can hand on heart 583 00:24:17,114 --> 00:24:18,714 Speaker 3: just looking at what I did have and then looking 584 00:24:18,714 --> 00:24:22,234 Speaker 3: at my wardrobe. I was spending between four hundred to 585 00:24:22,314 --> 00:24:24,954 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars a month. Wow, and that is now, 586 00:24:25,114 --> 00:24:28,194 Speaker 3: you know, around ten twelve thousand dollars. 587 00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:28,714 Speaker 2: Amazing. 588 00:24:28,754 --> 00:24:32,074 Speaker 3: It's amazing that I can actually put into experiences. I 589 00:24:32,154 --> 00:24:34,194 Speaker 3: love eating out. I will never skimp on food. I 590 00:24:34,194 --> 00:24:35,114 Speaker 3: would never do a challenge. 591 00:24:35,274 --> 00:24:38,273 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no way. I mean, I like shopping, but 592 00:24:38,314 --> 00:24:39,714 Speaker 1: I'm mostly a bad experience totally. 593 00:24:39,714 --> 00:24:41,194 Speaker 2: I'd much rather do stuff like that. 594 00:24:41,274 --> 00:24:45,073 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, bench, I don't know the amount of 595 00:24:45,434 --> 00:24:47,074 Speaker 1: you know, renovations you're doing in nice bars. 596 00:24:47,114 --> 00:24:49,074 Speaker 3: I am well, it's funny you say that. It made 597 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,314 Speaker 3: me almost it trickled into other spending habits like I 598 00:24:52,394 --> 00:24:53,434 Speaker 3: love homeworms. 599 00:24:53,674 --> 00:24:54,674 Speaker 2: I am a sucker for a. 600 00:24:54,674 --> 00:24:57,594 Speaker 1: Vase, oh my, and the vas isn't gonna get me, 601 00:24:57,634 --> 00:24:59,634 Speaker 1: you know, fall apart after unsh because you know, it's 602 00:24:59,634 --> 00:25:00,553 Speaker 1: a va true. 603 00:25:00,594 --> 00:25:05,314 Speaker 2: But platters love a platter like twelve thirteen platters. 604 00:25:06,634 --> 00:25:09,074 Speaker 1: And I don't really like entertaining because they're like people 605 00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:09,634 Speaker 1: in my Spain. 606 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:11,314 Speaker 3: I serve everything on a plot up because we just 607 00:25:11,354 --> 00:25:13,474 Speaker 3: had so many. So now it made me go, do 608 00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:14,313 Speaker 3: I actually need that? 609 00:25:14,994 --> 00:25:17,553 Speaker 2: Stopped on that as well? Truly, it filtered in, it 610 00:25:17,634 --> 00:25:20,114 Speaker 2: trickled in its little it's a little ripple of fair God. 611 00:25:20,114 --> 00:25:22,194 Speaker 1: You also wouldn't be tracking all your parcels because they've 612 00:25:22,234 --> 00:25:23,634 Speaker 1: lost them and then they've taken them to the post 613 00:25:23,634 --> 00:25:25,114 Speaker 1: office even though you were home, So then you got 614 00:25:25,114 --> 00:25:26,234 Speaker 1: to go to the post office. 615 00:25:25,914 --> 00:25:28,674 Speaker 2: Like all the time, and stress lost that stress. 616 00:25:28,714 --> 00:25:32,114 Speaker 3: It was amazing what I thought this challenge would be 617 00:25:32,234 --> 00:25:36,434 Speaker 3: and how it is genuinely the tentacles into other parts 618 00:25:36,434 --> 00:25:39,513 Speaker 3: of my life, so positive, so freeing. 619 00:25:39,514 --> 00:25:41,594 Speaker 1: Can I asked him to start though, because you said, 620 00:25:41,594 --> 00:25:43,034 Speaker 1: you know, all those parcels are for your daughter, so 621 00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:46,033 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're relatively frequent online shop. But so was 622 00:25:46,034 --> 00:25:47,994 Speaker 1: there like a come down? Like was there like a 623 00:25:47,994 --> 00:25:50,074 Speaker 1: at the start? Was there like a oh, nothing's coming? 624 00:25:50,154 --> 00:25:52,273 Speaker 2: It did feel like a fell off a cliff. And 625 00:25:52,314 --> 00:25:52,874 Speaker 2: it was funny. 626 00:25:53,074 --> 00:25:55,234 Speaker 3: My husband actually said to the other goes Ah, the 627 00:25:55,274 --> 00:25:58,594 Speaker 3: postman who got very comfortable with our house. He walked 628 00:25:58,594 --> 00:26:01,394 Speaker 3: down the driveway literally yelling parcel so we didn't have 629 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:03,634 Speaker 3: to knock on the door, because if he's not. 630 00:26:03,554 --> 00:26:06,154 Speaker 2: Seen me for a year, maybe something happened to you. 631 00:26:06,234 --> 00:26:08,834 Speaker 1: It's funny because I I work from home a lot, 632 00:26:08,954 --> 00:26:11,234 Speaker 1: and so all my work, like pr stuff goes there 633 00:26:11,234 --> 00:26:12,514 Speaker 1: as well, so I'll be going to get my car 634 00:26:12,554 --> 00:26:14,554 Speaker 1: and the garden will coming down to me, go late, 635 00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:16,714 Speaker 1: stop and then he just chucks them in my boot. 636 00:26:17,874 --> 00:26:20,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, it's not all shopping. Its work. 637 00:26:20,634 --> 00:26:25,074 Speaker 3: He's like, yes, absolutely, definitely. There was an adjustment period. 638 00:26:25,154 --> 00:26:27,073 Speaker 1: Yes, your husband should have like wrapped up your old 639 00:26:27,074 --> 00:26:28,394 Speaker 1: clothes and put a label on it, left at the 640 00:26:28,434 --> 00:26:31,194 Speaker 1: front door. See had something to open, something to open, like. 641 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:32,513 Speaker 2: We intend to do for the little one, you know 642 00:26:32,594 --> 00:26:34,554 Speaker 2: around Christmas time. We just go, oh, she's not saying 643 00:26:34,554 --> 00:26:36,474 Speaker 2: that in a boy, just. 644 00:26:36,474 --> 00:26:40,114 Speaker 1: Wrap So the hardest part and then the best part, 645 00:26:40,114 --> 00:26:41,554 Speaker 1: Tell me what was the hardest part. 646 00:26:41,754 --> 00:26:43,874 Speaker 3: I think the hardest part, as we touched on, was though, 647 00:26:43,994 --> 00:26:48,474 Speaker 3: were those early days where I was redirecting that dopamine here, the. 648 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:50,394 Speaker 1: Shopping dopamine from are you gonna say exert? 649 00:26:50,514 --> 00:26:52,714 Speaker 3: No, you know where I got my dopamine from, feeling 650 00:26:52,834 --> 00:26:56,154 Speaker 3: so good about my lack of creaching a goal, genuinely 651 00:26:56,194 --> 00:26:59,434 Speaker 3: reaching the goal. I am such a holy I did 652 00:26:59,514 --> 00:27:00,754 Speaker 3: karate for six weeks. 653 00:27:01,114 --> 00:27:02,714 Speaker 2: I did a juggling plassy. 654 00:27:02,834 --> 00:27:06,114 Speaker 3: I did I did an Italian tutoring session. 655 00:27:06,154 --> 00:27:08,553 Speaker 1: I started doing sobby is Sobbies or shop? What are 656 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:11,754 Speaker 1: they calling it short hobbies, yes, and also secret because 657 00:27:11,754 --> 00:27:12,954 Speaker 1: then if I fail at it, I'm like. 658 00:27:12,874 --> 00:27:13,914 Speaker 2: A secret hobby, is it? 659 00:27:13,994 --> 00:27:14,154 Speaker 1: Yes? 660 00:27:14,514 --> 00:27:16,794 Speaker 2: Short and like shot, but I don't tell anyone. 661 00:27:16,914 --> 00:27:20,234 Speaker 3: I did so many things. I burned bright, but I 662 00:27:20,354 --> 00:27:22,554 Speaker 3: burn out fast and again I talk about these things 663 00:27:22,594 --> 00:27:23,874 Speaker 3: on air with my co host. 664 00:27:24,074 --> 00:27:25,954 Speaker 1: I just thought I was going to refurbish all outdoor 665 00:27:25,994 --> 00:27:28,154 Speaker 1: teamer furniture. So I've bought all this sand paper, all. 666 00:27:28,074 --> 00:27:29,754 Speaker 2: These oils into crafts. 667 00:27:30,394 --> 00:27:32,474 Speaker 1: No, no, like I just want to like we've got 668 00:27:32,474 --> 00:27:34,394 Speaker 1: like teak furniture. That's all long gross, I don't do 669 00:27:34,434 --> 00:27:36,754 Speaker 1: it now. All the things came and I'm like, oh, 670 00:27:36,914 --> 00:27:37,514 Speaker 1: I signed up. 671 00:27:37,474 --> 00:27:40,074 Speaker 3: To a calligraphy class because I wanted to get better penmanship, 672 00:27:40,394 --> 00:27:41,754 Speaker 3: and I like didn't even follow through. 673 00:27:41,794 --> 00:27:44,594 Speaker 2: I think I did once, like a reaching. 674 00:27:44,114 --> 00:27:46,273 Speaker 1: The goal and here is a long time that was 675 00:27:46,354 --> 00:27:47,914 Speaker 1: your truly new focus. 676 00:27:47,994 --> 00:27:50,394 Speaker 3: I think it's the first thing I've actually stuck to 677 00:27:50,594 --> 00:27:54,273 Speaker 3: beyond I don't know my marriage and high school. 678 00:27:54,434 --> 00:27:56,634 Speaker 2: That was, you know, turning an income at some point. 679 00:27:56,954 --> 00:27:59,033 Speaker 2: I didn't even finish high school. But yes, that was 680 00:27:59,074 --> 00:28:01,034 Speaker 2: probably that was probably the best part. 681 00:28:01,834 --> 00:28:04,994 Speaker 3: But the yeah, the challenging part was just that just 682 00:28:05,034 --> 00:28:08,314 Speaker 3: switching that mindset and really a preating that I don't 683 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:11,074 Speaker 3: need that to satisfy me. Yep, I've got enough. 684 00:28:11,394 --> 00:28:14,394 Speaker 1: Now we've just hit twenty twenty six. So congratulations, you've 685 00:28:14,394 --> 00:28:16,033 Speaker 1: officially accomplished it. 686 00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:18,273 Speaker 3: Well, you were my sort of final send off on 687 00:28:18,314 --> 00:28:20,714 Speaker 3: those two little gray areas that I've been holding on too. 688 00:28:20,754 --> 00:28:24,033 Speaker 1: And got a lifted ring and sneakers for your health 689 00:28:24,154 --> 00:28:28,154 Speaker 1: and not buy so much a dress that was forty 690 00:28:28,154 --> 00:28:29,994 Speaker 1: percent off and it made a flasting Thank you so much. 691 00:28:30,274 --> 00:28:33,034 Speaker 1: So what does twenty twenty six look like for you 692 00:28:33,234 --> 00:28:34,314 Speaker 1: in this area? 693 00:28:34,434 --> 00:28:36,674 Speaker 2: As I said, when you give me an inch, take 694 00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:38,994 Speaker 2: a mile, son't talk me. You're doing it in Well, 695 00:28:39,114 --> 00:28:41,874 Speaker 2: Towards the back end of the year, I said to 696 00:28:41,874 --> 00:28:43,674 Speaker 2: my husband should I go again? 697 00:28:44,354 --> 00:28:46,754 Speaker 3: And he was the one to be like, look, if 698 00:28:46,794 --> 00:28:49,514 Speaker 3: you want to, but you've achieved something, You've done it. 699 00:28:49,954 --> 00:28:52,634 Speaker 3: Why don't you just see now if this has actually 700 00:28:52,714 --> 00:28:56,394 Speaker 3: affected your habits, if you go back into buying three 701 00:28:56,474 --> 00:28:59,274 Speaker 3: Leolin dresses in one go, all right, maybe we need 702 00:28:59,314 --> 00:29:01,594 Speaker 3: to sit down and we need a mind you I 703 00:29:01,634 --> 00:29:03,514 Speaker 3: almost need And my dad will love me saying this 704 00:29:03,514 --> 00:29:05,514 Speaker 3: because he's a financial advisor and has trying to get 705 00:29:05,514 --> 00:29:08,914 Speaker 3: me to do one since I was fifteen budget yeah 706 00:29:08,954 --> 00:29:11,714 Speaker 3: and literally be so consciet screwed up. 707 00:29:12,394 --> 00:29:13,434 Speaker 2: I saw it. I've tried that. 708 00:29:13,594 --> 00:29:15,234 Speaker 1: So what you need to do is have an account 709 00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:17,714 Speaker 1: that's just your spending. But even then you can move 710 00:29:17,754 --> 00:29:20,194 Speaker 1: things around. I would clear all your cases on your 711 00:29:20,234 --> 00:29:22,234 Speaker 1: phone and your things so it doesn't auto save your 712 00:29:22,274 --> 00:29:22,754 Speaker 1: credit card. 713 00:29:23,314 --> 00:29:25,834 Speaker 2: Great one. It's way too easy on some of these sites, 714 00:29:25,874 --> 00:29:26,394 Speaker 2: isn't it over? 715 00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:26,514 Speaker 1: Then? 716 00:29:26,554 --> 00:29:29,834 Speaker 2: I used paper shopifies me. 717 00:29:29,994 --> 00:29:34,914 Speaker 1: Maybe you make yourself like limited edition periods, like you know, 718 00:29:34,914 --> 00:29:36,714 Speaker 1: I guess the boxing day sales are still going. 719 00:29:36,794 --> 00:29:38,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, do that, and then you've got like I. 720 00:29:38,434 --> 00:29:40,434 Speaker 1: Don't know, there's March sales or something like, I don't know. 721 00:29:40,554 --> 00:29:42,954 Speaker 3: I actually really like one of my girlfriends was talking 722 00:29:42,954 --> 00:29:45,554 Speaker 3: about genuinely saving up like we did when we were 723 00:29:45,594 --> 00:29:48,954 Speaker 3: in there labor, the part time job. Genuinely seeing a 724 00:29:48,994 --> 00:29:50,634 Speaker 3: garment and going, I'm saving for that. 725 00:29:50,714 --> 00:29:51,914 Speaker 2: So if it's fifty bucks. 726 00:29:51,754 --> 00:29:55,634 Speaker 1: A weee, and make sure you really need it, no impulses. 727 00:29:55,754 --> 00:29:58,554 Speaker 3: The twenty four hour thing that is mandatory for me 728 00:29:58,594 --> 00:30:00,354 Speaker 3: from now on. I pretty much and I feel like 729 00:30:00,354 --> 00:30:03,074 Speaker 3: I piss off a lot of shop assistance and please 730 00:30:03,354 --> 00:30:06,074 Speaker 3: comment or DM me is it okay? That I go 731 00:30:06,314 --> 00:30:08,754 Speaker 3: and try a bunch of staff take photos and then 732 00:30:09,194 --> 00:30:10,954 Speaker 3: send it to my mum to buy for my birthday. 733 00:30:10,994 --> 00:30:11,754 Speaker 2: Everybody does it. 734 00:30:12,154 --> 00:30:14,674 Speaker 1: Used to work in retail, everybody okay, And I always 735 00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:15,554 Speaker 1: say because I get weird. 736 00:30:15,554 --> 00:30:16,634 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna come back. 737 00:30:16,634 --> 00:30:18,394 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it even when I make up such 738 00:30:18,394 --> 00:30:20,954 Speaker 3: a literally like just around Christmas, was saying, oh, I'm 739 00:30:20,954 --> 00:30:22,114 Speaker 3: just making a list for my husband. 740 00:30:22,114 --> 00:30:23,674 Speaker 1: When but when I worked to David Jones and I'd 741 00:30:23,714 --> 00:30:25,314 Speaker 1: be like, I don't care, like try it on and I 742 00:30:25,354 --> 00:30:27,754 Speaker 1: hang it out like that's righty, No, okay. 743 00:30:27,394 --> 00:30:29,474 Speaker 2: Okay, good. I just felt like I'm mucking up your clothes. 744 00:30:29,834 --> 00:30:31,714 Speaker 1: We'll hang them back up. I'll just leave them on 745 00:30:31,714 --> 00:30:32,914 Speaker 1: the floor of the chain room. 746 00:30:33,074 --> 00:30:33,154 Speaker 2: No. 747 00:30:33,234 --> 00:30:35,074 Speaker 3: But you know, some dollar gets sweaty and stinky, and 748 00:30:35,114 --> 00:30:36,474 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm ruining the garment. 749 00:30:36,674 --> 00:30:36,954 Speaker 2: Okay. 750 00:30:36,954 --> 00:30:38,874 Speaker 1: No, you can't try and clothes when you're sweaty and stinks. Okay, 751 00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:43,074 Speaker 1: very clear straight from your paint session. I hope you 752 00:30:43,234 --> 00:30:45,234 Speaker 1: washed your clothes while you wore them all year. 753 00:30:45,634 --> 00:30:46,954 Speaker 2: I did. I had to get good at water. 754 00:30:47,634 --> 00:30:50,594 Speaker 1: For anyone that's thinking of doing this challenge is similar. 755 00:30:51,114 --> 00:30:53,114 Speaker 1: Now you know it's only a couple of days into 756 00:30:53,114 --> 00:30:54,074 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. 757 00:30:54,154 --> 00:30:56,034 Speaker 2: What's your biggest advice? Go all in? 758 00:30:56,394 --> 00:31:00,194 Speaker 3: Okay, I know you kept talking about caveats, maybe ground rules, 759 00:31:00,194 --> 00:31:02,994 Speaker 3: maybe a bit of leeway if you're anything like. 760 00:31:02,954 --> 00:31:06,034 Speaker 2: If you're anything like me, don't give yourself an inch. 761 00:31:06,194 --> 00:31:08,474 Speaker 1: I could do it with hand and thrifting. I could 762 00:31:08,514 --> 00:31:10,314 Speaker 1: do it with no new clothes easy. 763 00:31:10,554 --> 00:31:13,034 Speaker 2: And you know what, you got to know yourself as well. Yeah, 764 00:31:13,074 --> 00:31:14,914 Speaker 2: So that is actually and what a beautiful when we 765 00:31:14,954 --> 00:31:18,594 Speaker 2: talk about stain sustainability, thought over consumption, when we talk 766 00:31:18,594 --> 00:31:22,634 Speaker 2: about fast individuality, it's so you absolutely and it's such 767 00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:25,354 Speaker 2: a better story and it's so much fun. Like I know, 768 00:31:25,434 --> 00:31:27,034 Speaker 2: the shoes you're wearing right now, they would have a 769 00:31:27,074 --> 00:31:29,034 Speaker 2: great story. They were from Vini's. 770 00:31:29,074 --> 00:31:32,154 Speaker 1: They were forty five dollars fantastic, brand new Italian leather, 771 00:31:32,234 --> 00:31:34,194 Speaker 1: don't know the brand. And at forty five dollars a vinie, 772 00:31:34,274 --> 00:31:36,354 Speaker 1: I was like oh, And then I was like hang on, hello, 773 00:31:36,474 --> 00:31:38,394 Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't get there on sale at BERLINI, and 774 00:31:38,394 --> 00:31:39,794 Speaker 1: you would get it at BERLINI anyway. 775 00:31:39,514 --> 00:31:40,234 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 776 00:31:40,234 --> 00:31:41,434 Speaker 3: And you know what, I thought they might have been 777 00:31:41,434 --> 00:31:43,554 Speaker 3: a travel thing and they're the ones that we pull 778 00:31:43,634 --> 00:31:44,914 Speaker 3: out of our wardrobes again. 779 00:31:45,034 --> 00:31:47,074 Speaker 1: And you got and then everyone goes and you're like, oh, 780 00:31:47,074 --> 00:31:49,634 Speaker 1: it's vintage, even vintage, like whatever, what. 781 00:31:49,754 --> 00:31:51,794 Speaker 2: Guns walk counts as vintage? Secondhand? Yeah? 782 00:31:52,274 --> 00:31:54,234 Speaker 3: I think we don't know how long they were sitting 783 00:31:54,234 --> 00:31:55,394 Speaker 3: there for, let's say ten years. 784 00:31:55,874 --> 00:31:56,234 Speaker 1: Yeah. 785 00:31:56,274 --> 00:31:56,914 Speaker 2: I found a top. 786 00:31:56,954 --> 00:31:58,634 Speaker 3: I know you mentioned your g string from back when 787 00:31:58,634 --> 00:32:00,954 Speaker 3: you're in your twenties. I found a top my mum 788 00:32:00,994 --> 00:32:04,034 Speaker 3: had bought me from twenty sixteen. It was my first 789 00:32:04,154 --> 00:32:07,594 Speaker 3: radio promo shoot. She took me shopping and I remember 790 00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,634 Speaker 3: her being so thrilled about it went to Dion Lee. 791 00:32:10,034 --> 00:32:12,274 Speaker 3: So it was such an exciting Yes, it was such 792 00:32:12,314 --> 00:32:14,514 Speaker 3: an exciting She went all out for me and I 793 00:32:14,594 --> 00:32:16,194 Speaker 3: pulled it out of my wardrobe. 794 00:32:15,874 --> 00:32:18,834 Speaker 2: Went oh, hello, did you wear it? Absolutely? It became 795 00:32:18,914 --> 00:32:21,194 Speaker 2: so much more part of my rotations. 796 00:32:20,794 --> 00:32:23,034 Speaker 1: And new, like it doesn't have to be new to 797 00:32:23,074 --> 00:32:25,394 Speaker 1: be exciting, like something old can be exciting again. 798 00:32:25,474 --> 00:32:28,234 Speaker 3: And that's actually one other piece of advice. I used 799 00:32:28,234 --> 00:32:30,714 Speaker 3: to be a slave to a color coded wardrobe. 800 00:32:31,154 --> 00:32:32,314 Speaker 2: I loved, you know. 801 00:32:32,274 --> 00:32:34,114 Speaker 3: All my white on the far left, and then it 802 00:32:34,114 --> 00:32:35,994 Speaker 3: would go cream, yellow, orange. 803 00:32:35,994 --> 00:32:38,514 Speaker 2: But even if you're mixing dresses and pants and tops. Ah, 804 00:32:38,594 --> 00:32:43,034 Speaker 2: pretty much. I liked color. I liked like a rainbow gradient. 805 00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:46,514 Speaker 3: What I did, though, to really shake things up was 806 00:32:47,314 --> 00:32:49,354 Speaker 3: it's not very sexy. But I guess I enacted a 807 00:32:49,354 --> 00:32:51,914 Speaker 3: bit of a deli counter situation and I would just 808 00:32:52,074 --> 00:32:54,554 Speaker 3: wear what was on the far right, and that's what 809 00:32:54,594 --> 00:32:56,674 Speaker 3: I'm wearing today, and then I'd return it to the 810 00:32:56,674 --> 00:32:59,794 Speaker 3: far left, and literally the next day goes, Who's next in? 811 00:33:00,034 --> 00:33:02,274 Speaker 1: You wore a ball gown to like pol pickup? 812 00:33:03,594 --> 00:33:05,794 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? There was so lever it 813 00:33:05,954 --> 00:33:06,754 Speaker 2: genuinely made me. 814 00:33:06,794 --> 00:33:09,794 Speaker 3: Rea says, unless it I don't realize the weather, but 815 00:33:09,874 --> 00:33:12,314 Speaker 3: unless I knew forty five degrees that it was a jumper. 816 00:33:12,474 --> 00:33:14,674 Speaker 1: I have a little rack that's from Bunnings, and when 817 00:33:14,674 --> 00:33:16,034 Speaker 1: I go through my wardrobe, like, oh, I haven't worn 818 00:33:16,074 --> 00:33:17,234 Speaker 1: you in a while, I really want to wear you, 819 00:33:17,314 --> 00:33:18,474 Speaker 1: and I've got like ten things on it that I 820 00:33:18,514 --> 00:33:19,274 Speaker 1: want to wear soon. 821 00:33:19,394 --> 00:33:20,274 Speaker 2: As a challenge, I. 822 00:33:20,434 --> 00:33:22,674 Speaker 3: Love that it's just putting it in front of you, 823 00:33:22,674 --> 00:33:25,834 Speaker 3: because otherwise I feel like we fall back into what's safe, 824 00:33:25,874 --> 00:33:27,074 Speaker 3: what's comfortable. 825 00:33:26,754 --> 00:33:29,154 Speaker 2: What we play on the clean pile. Exactly whereas this 826 00:33:29,234 --> 00:33:31,034 Speaker 2: made me go, oh, I haven't seen you in a while. 827 00:33:31,314 --> 00:33:45,674 Speaker 2: You're up today, sweetheart. It's very expensive. How wondre the 828 00:33:46,554 --> 00:33:49,674 Speaker 2: percent and budget? 829 00:33:49,714 --> 00:33:51,594 Speaker 1: So this is a bit of a different topic to 830 00:33:51,634 --> 00:33:54,074 Speaker 1: do it on. I have, I'm bringing some too. I'm 831 00:33:54,074 --> 00:33:55,914 Speaker 1: bringing two things I would have to have in my 832 00:33:55,954 --> 00:33:58,794 Speaker 1: wardrobe that I wear a lot to get the year. 833 00:33:58,874 --> 00:34:00,794 Speaker 2: But how's you one budget? Yeah? What are you going 834 00:34:00,834 --> 00:34:01,714 Speaker 2: to do? So for me? 835 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:04,954 Speaker 3: And again thinking about those gaps in my wardrobe and 836 00:34:04,994 --> 00:34:08,794 Speaker 3: realizing there's not many. The one thing that I haven't 837 00:34:08,794 --> 00:34:10,794 Speaker 3: purchased it yet, but I was like all right on 838 00:34:11,034 --> 00:34:15,834 Speaker 3: the those bendies over andy swim a malthy one piece 839 00:34:16,434 --> 00:34:20,354 Speaker 3: all my specific I love hairy specific swimmers have been 840 00:34:20,354 --> 00:34:21,314 Speaker 3: one of those things. 841 00:34:21,354 --> 00:34:23,594 Speaker 2: Since having the baby, since starting. 842 00:34:23,314 --> 00:34:25,594 Speaker 3: A bit of a better gym routine, my body has 843 00:34:25,634 --> 00:34:28,354 Speaker 3: been all over the shop. I had one pair of 844 00:34:28,754 --> 00:34:31,154 Speaker 3: cotton on swimmers that were great for a little bit. 845 00:34:31,554 --> 00:34:33,754 Speaker 3: Unfortunately I think they're a little too. 846 00:34:33,594 --> 00:34:34,034 Speaker 2: Big for me. 847 00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:37,234 Speaker 1: Now say you only had one pair of swimmers? 848 00:34:37,754 --> 00:34:38,234 Speaker 2: Wow? 849 00:34:38,514 --> 00:34:41,913 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes, it's one hundred and eighty nine, which 850 00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:42,794 Speaker 3: is funny to think. 851 00:34:43,234 --> 00:34:45,314 Speaker 2: You know, I've spent a lot more in my youth 852 00:34:45,594 --> 00:34:46,033 Speaker 2: on things. 853 00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:49,314 Speaker 3: So one hundred eighty nine feels like a lot now, 854 00:34:49,394 --> 00:34:51,354 Speaker 3: so even my just relationship. 855 00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:52,754 Speaker 1: With money a cotton on swim suit as well. But 856 00:34:52,874 --> 00:34:54,994 Speaker 1: true swim, you get where you pay for exactly. 857 00:34:54,994 --> 00:34:57,474 Speaker 3: Okay, so andy swim, I'm really excited to purchase that 858 00:34:57,594 --> 00:35:00,834 Speaker 3: hate And what's your other one? My budget? Again, I 859 00:35:00,874 --> 00:35:05,074 Speaker 3: had banned myself on accessories. I had a pair of sunglasses. 860 00:35:05,234 --> 00:35:06,954 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they're also a health product. 861 00:35:07,234 --> 00:35:10,714 Speaker 3: I hate sunglasses. I have never found a pair. 862 00:35:10,914 --> 00:35:12,714 Speaker 1: I don't think I hang on, you started this with 863 00:35:12,714 --> 00:35:15,074 Speaker 1: one pair, so I had three. 864 00:35:15,554 --> 00:35:17,794 Speaker 2: I hated them all. Okay, I don't think I have 865 00:35:17,874 --> 00:35:21,513 Speaker 2: that wide of a face. Every pair of sunglasses sunglass face, 866 00:35:22,154 --> 00:35:22,873 Speaker 2: I disagree. 867 00:35:22,994 --> 00:35:25,714 Speaker 3: I've not found one pair that I think looks good. Okay, 868 00:35:25,794 --> 00:35:27,474 Speaker 3: but that doesn't squish my temples. 869 00:35:27,514 --> 00:35:29,513 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you. They're a headache. Yeah, they're class 870 00:35:29,554 --> 00:35:31,274 Speaker 2: sunglasses meant to be uncomfortable. 871 00:35:31,354 --> 00:35:34,634 Speaker 1: No, okay, I'll take your shopping so the But do 872 00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:35,994 Speaker 1: you have cataracts by now? Like? 873 00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:38,634 Speaker 2: Well, that's my issue. I'm walking the dog out of 874 00:35:38,714 --> 00:35:42,473 Speaker 2: the beach and I'm it's squinted city population jairs. I 875 00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:45,354 Speaker 2: just I literally wear a hat. I wear a hat, okay, 876 00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:48,554 Speaker 2: and I always to befou out to that. But my eyes. 877 00:35:48,674 --> 00:35:50,514 Speaker 3: I just had a moment where I was trying to 878 00:35:50,514 --> 00:35:53,714 Speaker 3: look at something, going this can't be good for my health. 879 00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:56,473 Speaker 1: I'm worried now of your volume of things to mine. 880 00:35:56,474 --> 00:35:59,473 Speaker 1: If you only had two swimsuits and three sunglasses and. 881 00:35:59,474 --> 00:36:00,634 Speaker 2: I felt like I had a problem. 882 00:36:00,714 --> 00:36:02,634 Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I had lots of tops and dresses, 883 00:36:02,674 --> 00:36:04,194 Speaker 3: yeah okay, and shoes but. 884 00:36:04,274 --> 00:36:05,074 Speaker 2: Yeah, sunglasses. 885 00:36:05,074 --> 00:36:06,993 Speaker 3: But because I don't really care about Sunday's I'm happy 886 00:36:07,034 --> 00:36:08,993 Speaker 3: with the twenty dollars pair from sports. 887 00:36:08,674 --> 00:36:11,834 Speaker 2: Girls Gone Key. You know that, I q u a y. 888 00:36:12,034 --> 00:36:14,194 Speaker 2: They stalked it like a David Jones maybe a mile 889 00:36:14,594 --> 00:36:15,074 Speaker 2: work there. 890 00:36:15,114 --> 00:36:16,794 Speaker 1: But they've got a really great website and they've got 891 00:36:17,034 --> 00:36:19,873 Speaker 1: you know everything about all but they have a try 892 00:36:19,914 --> 00:36:22,314 Speaker 1: on virtual thing. They are stopped somewhere, but you want 893 00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:24,393 Speaker 1: to go online because especially now, they probably ever sail 894 00:36:24,394 --> 00:36:24,994 Speaker 1: their great. 895 00:36:24,794 --> 00:36:26,634 Speaker 2: Sales and what are yours? Tell me? What are yours? Okay? 896 00:36:26,674 --> 00:36:28,553 Speaker 1: So my things I could not live without that I 897 00:36:28,594 --> 00:36:31,994 Speaker 1: wear frequently. My Levi's ribcage jeans. 898 00:36:32,274 --> 00:36:33,994 Speaker 2: Is that the bougie? That's my bougie. 899 00:36:34,034 --> 00:36:37,234 Speaker 1: They're normally one fifty nine ninety five, although they will 900 00:36:37,234 --> 00:36:38,393 Speaker 1: probably be on sale at the moment. 901 00:36:38,474 --> 00:36:39,393 Speaker 2: Everywhere sells them. 902 00:36:39,394 --> 00:36:42,194 Speaker 1: There's different cuts, but I like this straight seven eighths 903 00:36:42,194 --> 00:36:44,554 Speaker 1: because I'm quite short, so it just sits there nicely 904 00:36:44,554 --> 00:36:46,994 Speaker 1: on the angrim cage literally up to there, button up. 905 00:36:47,034 --> 00:36:49,714 Speaker 2: I love that's if that's the next level highwaist. They're 906 00:36:49,834 --> 00:36:52,393 Speaker 2: so good. That's what I call ribcage fair enough. 907 00:36:52,434 --> 00:36:55,714 Speaker 1: I have light, lightish blue, dark blue, and white, and 908 00:36:55,754 --> 00:36:57,714 Speaker 1: I live in them. I know, I'm only like, well, 909 00:36:57,754 --> 00:36:59,994 Speaker 1: I guess they've already got them. But they can be 910 00:37:00,074 --> 00:37:03,074 Speaker 1: dressed up, dressed down, blazer, cami, thongs, whatever. 911 00:37:03,234 --> 00:37:05,354 Speaker 2: Yes, we love a dress up and a dressed down. Well, 912 00:37:05,354 --> 00:37:07,114 Speaker 2: we have to, I mean, we've got to get versatile. 913 00:37:07,194 --> 00:37:08,714 Speaker 3: If we're not going to buy anything for the whole 914 00:37:08,754 --> 00:37:10,914 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six, lee, We're gonna have to get versatile. 915 00:37:10,954 --> 00:37:12,114 Speaker 2: But I'm going to maybe do thrifting. 916 00:37:12,194 --> 00:37:15,674 Speaker 1: And my budget is the T shirt that I own 917 00:37:16,314 --> 00:37:19,354 Speaker 1: probably six off in white. It's the UniGlobe one d 918 00:37:19,474 --> 00:37:22,914 Speaker 1: per cotton crew white neck T shirt. It's twenty dollars. 919 00:37:23,034 --> 00:37:25,114 Speaker 3: Can I sorry, can I just clarify some USIC you 920 00:37:25,194 --> 00:37:28,834 Speaker 3: own six white? Like they're all the same color of 921 00:37:29,034 --> 00:37:31,473 Speaker 3: just that tea. Yeah, but they're all white, yes, one 922 00:37:31,674 --> 00:37:33,834 Speaker 3: six white ones. I love a white's seven days in 923 00:37:33,874 --> 00:37:35,433 Speaker 3: a week. Why do you need you wear six days 924 00:37:35,474 --> 00:37:36,914 Speaker 3: a week, six days. 925 00:37:36,794 --> 00:37:40,554 Speaker 2: Of the week. I know why they're twenty dollars. 926 00:37:40,634 --> 00:37:43,154 Speaker 3: You are doing no spend and they you know, sex 927 00:37:43,514 --> 00:37:45,354 Speaker 3: and your husband share them. 928 00:37:45,714 --> 00:37:46,034 Speaker 2: No, he. 929 00:37:47,794 --> 00:37:51,913 Speaker 1: Likes them tighter. I'm just okay. Well, I guess I 930 00:37:51,954 --> 00:37:53,714 Speaker 1: don't know six white chairs. 931 00:37:53,954 --> 00:37:56,034 Speaker 2: This is not about me. I don't own one white 932 00:37:56,034 --> 00:37:57,554 Speaker 2: T shirt. 933 00:37:57,034 --> 00:37:59,873 Speaker 1: Or true you would look at my wardrobe and go, 934 00:37:59,914 --> 00:38:01,314 Speaker 1: oh my god, did fun come to die? 935 00:38:01,354 --> 00:38:03,034 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm excited about your shoes too. 936 00:38:04,914 --> 00:38:07,634 Speaker 1: So like these nappy sand really well, because I just 937 00:38:07,674 --> 00:38:09,114 Speaker 1: get everything dirty. I have to be able to bleed 938 00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:11,953 Speaker 1: to nappy sand things. They come out rand new and 939 00:38:11,994 --> 00:38:14,314 Speaker 1: it's that thick crew neck that looks really expensive. It's 940 00:38:14,314 --> 00:38:16,754 Speaker 1: the Uni six one. It's twenty dollars. Sometimes it's some 941 00:38:16,874 --> 00:38:17,554 Speaker 1: Olf for fifteen. 942 00:38:17,634 --> 00:38:19,473 Speaker 2: I think that's why I did you buy them all 943 00:38:19,474 --> 00:38:24,234 Speaker 2: at once? Sometimes I can't find it wash. Well, what 944 00:38:24,394 --> 00:38:26,274 Speaker 2: made your brain go I need another one of those? 945 00:38:27,674 --> 00:38:30,513 Speaker 2: You always need more than one? What do you mean 946 00:38:30,914 --> 00:38:32,794 Speaker 2: this has turned into a mine? Me? Think? 947 00:38:33,434 --> 00:38:35,553 Speaker 3: Well, so you brought up the six T shirts man, 948 00:38:36,474 --> 00:38:38,034 Speaker 3: no more white T shirts like four of. 949 00:38:38,034 --> 00:38:41,194 Speaker 2: Them in black. Okay, Jess, it was so nice for 950 00:38:41,274 --> 00:38:42,913 Speaker 2: you to join me. Thank you so much. I think 951 00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:44,754 Speaker 2: I have to go and think about my life choice. 952 00:38:45,354 --> 00:38:48,554 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed this conversation, so my name, I really have. 953 00:38:48,714 --> 00:38:50,913 Speaker 1: You have opened my eyes. I don't know if for 954 00:38:50,994 --> 00:38:52,993 Speaker 1: better or worse. I'm trying to think what Boxing day 955 00:38:53,074 --> 00:38:55,354 Speaker 1: or deliveries are still on their way to make Okay, 956 00:38:55,394 --> 00:38:56,954 Speaker 1: that's your last. 957 00:38:56,514 --> 00:38:57,314 Speaker 2: That's it. 958 00:38:57,434 --> 00:38:59,194 Speaker 3: And then I think you need to say farewell to 959 00:38:59,234 --> 00:39:00,913 Speaker 3: your postman so you're not going to see me for 960 00:39:00,954 --> 00:39:01,194 Speaker 3: a while. 961 00:39:01,234 --> 00:39:03,714 Speaker 2: They'll still bring work stuff. Okay. Oh you've got too 962 00:39:03,714 --> 00:39:05,873 Speaker 2: many loopholes, man, We're going to do this. I spend 963 00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:06,913 Speaker 2: the money, Okay. 964 00:39:06,714 --> 00:39:08,594 Speaker 3: In another twelve months and I'm going to ask you 965 00:39:08,634 --> 00:39:09,594 Speaker 3: for all your loopholes. 966 00:39:09,874 --> 00:39:12,314 Speaker 1: Yess. It's been lovely to have you. This has been fantastic. 967 00:39:12,354 --> 00:39:14,714 Speaker 1: I feel like we're twins, but you have gone through 968 00:39:14,754 --> 00:39:15,834 Speaker 1: a course that I need to go. 969 00:39:16,434 --> 00:39:18,314 Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you so much for having me, le 970 00:39:18,594 --> 00:39:22,554 Speaker 2: You're the best. That's all we have time for today. 971 00:39:22,674 --> 00:39:25,473 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Air Now, 972 00:39:25,474 --> 00:39:28,033 Speaker 1: don't forget there's a wonderful newsletter that goes with this show. 973 00:39:28,154 --> 00:39:30,354 Speaker 1: You can sign up by the link in the show notes, 974 00:39:30,634 --> 00:39:31,834 Speaker 1: and of course you're on YouTube. 975 00:39:31,874 --> 00:39:33,394 Speaker 2: There's also a link to watch. 976 00:39:33,194 --> 00:39:35,433 Speaker 1: In the show notes because you have to see the 977 00:39:35,514 --> 00:39:39,234 Speaker 1: phenomenal Jess in her dress that changed her life. Also, 978 00:39:39,274 --> 00:39:41,513 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at Nothing to air Pod. 979 00:39:41,834 --> 00:39:42,433 Speaker 2: See you soon.