WEBVTT - Mel Robbins On The Only Life Lesson You Need To Know

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I'm Ama Mia podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet Mel, How the hell did you build this insane

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<v Speaker 2>business that you have and this podcast and these books?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you have thirty five people working for

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<v Speaker 2>you in studios in Boston and you're fifty six? How

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<v Speaker 2>do you, I literally say, by learning how to get

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<v Speaker 2>out about on the mornings I don't feel like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome to No Filter. I'm Kate lane Brook,

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<v Speaker 3>and today we're diving into the world of the one

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<v Speaker 3>and only Mel Robbins, someone who's built a global empire

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<v Speaker 3>not just on advice, but on real, raw, transformative change.

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<v Speaker 3>Mel's journey from nearly losing everything to becoming one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most influential voices in self help is nothing short

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<v Speaker 3>of extraordinary. But what really sets her apart is how

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<v Speaker 3>she's turned that message into a business, a brand, and

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<v Speaker 3>a worldwide movement, so much so that she's now one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most in demand speakers on the planet. Getting

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<v Speaker 3>Mel on the podcast wasn't easy. She's got one of

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<v Speaker 3>the busiest calendars of any guests that we've booked, But

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<v Speaker 3>here we are, and it's absolutely worth the wait. In

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<v Speaker 3>this episode, we'll explore how Mel's let them theory has

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<v Speaker 3>changed the way millions approach their lives, and exclusively here

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<v Speaker 3>on No Filter, Mel shares huge news for her Australian

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<v Speaker 3>and New Zealand fans. This is the global phenomenon that

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<v Speaker 3>is Mel Robin's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hella, hell a lovely one.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really well. I had to let them almost disaster

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<v Speaker 3>this morning when I got up because it's early happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I got up at four am for you, because at

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<v Speaker 3>six am my gardener and I went to have a

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for doing that. Well, you're worth it, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to have a shower and there was no water.

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<v Speaker 3>No water really, and I'd put a hair treatment in

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<v Speaker 3>last night I happened the council doing something fixing. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I had to wake up my husband. You know that thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Will I wake him up? Will I have to? I

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<v Speaker 3>woke him up. He goes downstairs in his undies. Outside

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<v Speaker 3>he's fiddling with the water met the dog's behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like last night. I love this man.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he says to me, I got a message

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<v Speaker 3>on my phone that you should also have, which I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have, from the council saying the sink Kilda water

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<v Speaker 3>which is where we live, is turned off until six am.

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<v Speaker 3>Well six am is now when I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just drive your treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>Are Well you know what I did? I wash.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have just left it in and made it

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<v Speaker 1>a high bond.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I couldn't because it was so greasy. I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to have a nice hair for Mel Robbins. You've always

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<v Speaker 3>got nice hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh are you kidding me? Do you know the worse

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<v Speaker 2>I look, the better our content.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I I know of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Like no, my kids will always go like, god,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you put that video up?

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<v Speaker 1>You look terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I went to the grocery store looking like this,

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<v Speaker 2>like what what's the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because our brand is really friend and the more

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<v Speaker 2>dulled up I am, the less it's us. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we just kind of roll up to the

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<v Speaker 2>camera and if hair is a disaster or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, this is how I look.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you love your greeting that you always do? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to say it to you. Hello friend, Hello Mel Robins,

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to No Filter. I'm your new friend, Caiteline Brook.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're a new friend. I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>been an old friend, and so thank you for welcoming

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<v Speaker 2>me as a friend. You know, I kind of believe

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<v Speaker 2>we are all friends on the road of life. I

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<v Speaker 2>think about the fact that you can learn anything from

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<v Speaker 2>anybody if you're willing to kind of lean in. And

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<v Speaker 2>there are going to be times, Kate, where as we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the road of life taking a long walk together,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be a couple of steps ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>me because you and your husband have gone through something

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<v Speaker 2>that my husband and I haven't yet, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>can be a friend to us. And then there are

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<v Speaker 2>times where I may be just a step ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>you because I just went through something with my son

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<v Speaker 2>and figured out that he had dyslexia, and now I can,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be a friend to you as you're sorting

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<v Speaker 2>through an issue. And so, you know, I love saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's your friend, mel because that's what I believe, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I feel as I'm move through life, whether

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking into a coffee shop or through an airport,

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<v Speaker 2>or down a dirt road, or I'm stepping up to

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<v Speaker 2>a microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting thing because your attitude to sharing your

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge comes from a place of great warmth and great vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 3>And the model that we have is that often when

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<v Speaker 3>people achieve a certain degree of success, they start to

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<v Speaker 3>put the walls up. They need to protect their privacy.

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<v Speaker 3>They won't talk about their personal life. They da, da da.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you maintain your openness to share your vulnerability

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<v Speaker 3>with basically the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great question, and I'll answer it a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of ways. Number One, I'm grateful that all of this

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<v Speaker 2>happens to lead in life. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>go through an experience at the age of forty one

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<v Speaker 2>where you nearly lose everything that matters to you, your life, savings,

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<v Speaker 2>your marriage, your sanity, your family, your home, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>real wake up call. And it also sears into you

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<v Speaker 2>what you actually value. And I think too often it's

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<v Speaker 2>not until we lose something or almost lose something, that

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<v Speaker 2>we realize how much it meant to us. And so

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<v Speaker 2>to have that experience or my career at least the

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<v Speaker 2>one that everybody sees right now, you know, I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six now that it started fifteen years ago at rock bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>where I was on the verge of losing everything that mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you have an experience where your kids

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<v Speaker 2>are standing next to you and you can't pay for

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<v Speaker 2>groceries at the grocery store. When you have experience where

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<v Speaker 2>your kids are in the car and you can't fill

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<v Speaker 2>the tank of gas that they're in, you don't lose that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember in moments of my life, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was that moment or it was moments when I was

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<v Speaker 2>younger and I was struggling with issues I didn't even understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't diagnosed until I was forty seven with ADHD,

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<v Speaker 2>but it impacted me my whole life that I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought I was dealing with anxiety when really

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<v Speaker 2>I was dealing with undiagnosed ADHD. And the main symptom

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<v Speaker 2>that people women in particular feel when they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a proper diagnosis of something focus related or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I also have dyslexia, which I didn't know until I

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<v Speaker 2>was forty seven, that you develop anxiety because you're being

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<v Speaker 2>asked to do things that your brain functionally, structurally isn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to do the way the people do. You start

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<v Speaker 2>to think that you're an idiot or there's something wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and then all of that anxiety develops and

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<v Speaker 2>so in these moments where I've really struggled, I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was the only one. I thought there was

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<v Speaker 2>something wrong with me. And looking back, I can see

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<v Speaker 2>that that loneliness and that sense of being closed off

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<v Speaker 2>in your own experience and then pretending on the surface

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<v Speaker 2>that something else was going on. It led to me

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<v Speaker 2>hurting other people. It led to me just spoiling really

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<v Speaker 2>important opportunities. It led to me acting in ways that

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<v Speaker 2>I really regret. It led to me hurting myself in

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<v Speaker 2>many many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm so open because number one, if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>that I've learned the hard way and help somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>from suffering the way that I did. My God, I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you everything. And the other reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so open is I've spent so long in my life

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<v Speaker 2>pretending to be somebody I'm not that I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so much easier to be who you are, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and everybody says it's vulnerable. I actually don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's vulnerable at all. It is the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the world when you stop judging your own experience.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you say you spent so long pretending

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<v Speaker 3>to be someone that you weren't your essential self. It's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because as you are so accomplished, and even when

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<v Speaker 3>you and your husband Crease hit the skeeds with the

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<v Speaker 3>business and you were eight hundred granding date and that

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<v Speaker 3>is dire, you was still a woman of great accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a couple of degrees. You're a lawyer, you

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<v Speaker 3>are hard hitting, you a clear thinking Who were you

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<v Speaker 3>pretending to be hard hitting?

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<v Speaker 2>Clear thinking? Got it all together?

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<v Speaker 1>Accomplished?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, degrees are something that's on a piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that you feel good about yourself. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a long time I thought I had

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<v Speaker 2>to measure up to the Ivy League degree. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I had to be something because of the lawyer thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And every one of us has this disconnect from who

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<v Speaker 2>were presenting to the world versus the experience that we're

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<v Speaker 2>having internally, and this deep sense of am I enough?

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<v Speaker 2>And for a long time the answer was no. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was never enough that I could do. There was

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<v Speaker 2>never enough that was going to prove that I was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was constantly seeking validation outside of me, constantly seeking approval.

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<v Speaker 2>If a new purse, could you know, make other people

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<v Speaker 2>like me? If I with the right friend group. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're all searching for that level of acceptance. And

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<v Speaker 2>it took me getting into a very dire state where

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<v Speaker 2>I had to rebuild myself from the inside out when

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<v Speaker 2>we were that far in debt, and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where it was just very difficult to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of bed and face the nightmare that my life

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<v Speaker 2>had become. Learning anew how to wake up and face

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<v Speaker 2>the day was a skill, like learning how to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of bed, when I didn't feel like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a life skill, like I had spent my life avoiding

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<v Speaker 2>the things that felt hard. Avoiding like academics came easy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm clearly a very very intellectual and smart person,

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<v Speaker 2>so hitting the books and not having to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>their human beings easy. But really learning how to be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with who I am and who I'm not, learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to be okay with what social group I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>and what social group I'm not. Learning, how to be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with what my body is or it isn't how

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<v Speaker 2>I measure up the amount of money or no money.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's fascinating is I think that in life,

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<v Speaker 2>most people know how to have a bad attitude or

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<v Speaker 2>be in a bad mood for no reason. That for decades,

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<v Speaker 2>you can train yourself to just look at the day

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and see nothing but reasons to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad mood, reasons to doubt yourself. What I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a really important skill in life is teaching yourself to

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<v Speaker 2>have a good attitude, to be in a positive mood

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason, for no reason, because learning how to

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<v Speaker 2>wake up every day and say, you know what, today

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a great day. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be great the whole day, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to make it a good day because there's something that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that's going to make me feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a way to program yourself to have a good attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Learning how to wake up and say, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going to happen, but I know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>capable of figuring it out today. Doubling down on your ability.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I sometimes think this mood thing I find really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I did breakfast radio for twelve years, so my muscles

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<v Speaker 3>to wake up whistling are pretty good. You've got to

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<v Speaker 3>wake up happy. You got no You've got no saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've also got four children and they're all sort

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<v Speaker 3>of wired differently for mornings. Mornings in particular, I think

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<v Speaker 3>are so essential and I always say to these you

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<v Speaker 3>may as well do it happily because it has to

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<v Speaker 3>be done regardless. But I think that sometimes people use

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<v Speaker 3>the mood that you're talking about to deflect. You know how,

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<v Speaker 3>no one will come near someone who's grumpy. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you're hiding the inner truth of yourself and you project

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<v Speaker 3>that anger or hostility or don't come near me to

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<v Speaker 3>the world, do you think that you were protecting yourself

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<v Speaker 3>from the truth of yourself at that time?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, because you know, like if you think about

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in your life who's miserable, yes, they're always in

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<v Speaker 2>a bad mood. They are always talking about the negative.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always some grape that is a human being that

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<v Speaker 2>is projecting an inner landscape that they have not dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with yet. See, there is a lot in a person

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<v Speaker 2>like that. There's typically a lot of sadness, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of self criticism, there's a sense of isolation. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a sense that life isn't fair, and that's a very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult thing to sit with. I mean, there are those

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<v Speaker 2>of us that just marinate in that and make ourselves miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't project it to anybody else. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people that feel those exact same things,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't tolerate those feelings, so they barfit out

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<v Speaker 2>at everybody else. And so when I see somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I just, you know, say let them. Let

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<v Speaker 2>them be in a terrible mood, let them be disappointed,

0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.200
<v Speaker 2>let them be angry at life. Because it's not my

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<v Speaker 2>job to save people or heal them, and I can't,

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<v Speaker 2>but let me not allow that negativity to impact me

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<v Speaker 2>or to become my job to manage, because I find

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<v Speaker 2>that people that are negative tend to get a lot

0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.200
<v Speaker 2>of attention for that negativity. They feel powerful because of

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<v Speaker 2>that negativity, and it's also a giant kind of shield

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<v Speaker 2>to have to do everything, you know, because you can

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<v Speaker 2>there's always, like this is the thing about life, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always something you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do to make things better.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you're going through the worst thing in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always something you can do with your attitude and

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<v Speaker 2>with the little things that you do that can make

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<v Speaker 2>things slightly better. I mean, this is the entire thesis

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<v Speaker 2>of Victor Frankel's Seminal work Man search for meaning that

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the Holocaust and all these horrific

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<v Speaker 2>things he cannot control in the concentration camp, he recognizes

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<v Speaker 2>that the only thing in his control in this absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>unspeakable situation is what he's thinking about and his physical

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<v Speaker 2>response to what's happening. That through his thoughts and actions,

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<v Speaker 2>he cannot only survive this situation, but he can help

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<v Speaker 2>himself through the situation. And to me, when you start

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that you have so much more power than

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<v Speaker 2>you realize, and that no matter where you are right now, Kate,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're like I am and you are just embarrassingly

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<v Speaker 2>in debt, or you are broken up with for the

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<v Speaker 2>tenth time where you're horribly overweight, or you're like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most beautiful things about the human design is

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<v Speaker 2>that you're designed to grow, You're designed to change.

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<v Speaker 1>That your body and your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Are waiting for you to program in different thinking and

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for you to wake up and go, how I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing life just doesn't feel good anymore, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because we live in a time of great comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>Comfort's available to us pretty well with a conditioning or

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<v Speaker 3>with the running water that I should have had this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're very we become very resistant to discomfort

0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.680
<v Speaker 3>because we're so used to having air con or whatever,

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:12.480
<v Speaker 3>or there's a grocery store full of abundance. How did

0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.520
<v Speaker 3>you face the ultimate discomfort, which I think comes from

0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.760
<v Speaker 3>within and you actually say in let them. The first

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<v Speaker 3>step to change in your life is taking responsibility for

0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Speaker 3>the fact that your life isn't working. Now, that to

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<v Speaker 3>me is the most pain. That's searingly painful, that realization.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all had those in our life. When you had

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<v Speaker 3>that moment, how did you get into the depths of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it because you couldn't get out of bed?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to really highlight this question. The first step

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<v Speaker 2>to changing is it admitting to yourself that the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you're living your life is no longer working.

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<v Speaker 1>That is all it takes to change.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's pretty clear when your life isn't work or

0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.040
<v Speaker 2>when aspects of your life aren't working. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in the story of my life, I

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<v Speaker 2>was drinking myself into the ground, blaming everything on my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hit the snooze button six times in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning and wake up hungover to my two children who

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<v Speaker 2>were school age at the time who had missed the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when your kids are waking you up after you've

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<v Speaker 2>missed the bus, you're basically failing at parenting in life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's be honest, you don't need a.

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<v Speaker 2>PhD to understand that that's a pretty clear indication that

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<v Speaker 2>the way they're doing life ain't working really well and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't feel good about yourself. And it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket scientist or an expert, because people know when

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<v Speaker 2>they're not doing well. Like I choose to believe, Kate

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<v Speaker 2>that we all want to thrive. We want to do

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<v Speaker 2>well at work, we want to do well at school,

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.440
<v Speaker 2>we want to feel connected in our relationships, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to feel a sense of control about where our life

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<v Speaker 2>is going. We want to feel proud of ourselves. So

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<v Speaker 2>I choose to believe that that is at the core

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<v Speaker 2>who you are and what is meant for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>for just endless and endless reasons, we get away from

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.520
<v Speaker 2>who we are and we get off track. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that you need as the first step to

0:19:16.879 --> 0:19:18.679
<v Speaker 2>get back on track in your life is to admit

0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that how your life feels, or how your marriage feels,

0:19:20.639 --> 0:19:22.280
<v Speaker 2>or how your job feels no longer works for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't need to have to have a reason

0:19:25.679 --> 0:19:27.680
<v Speaker 2>just saying it. It just doesn't feel how I want

0:19:27.679 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it to feel. And this is the piece, this second step,

0:19:32.879 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 2>that I think most people miss. And I've come to

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<v Speaker 2>believe doing the work that I've done now for fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years on myself, sharing all the things that I share,

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the research that I do, I have come

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that the single biggest obstacle in every person's way,

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<v Speaker 2>So the person watching or listening right now, the single

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.680
<v Speaker 2>biggest obstacle in your way right now is not ability.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, your friend Mel Robbins will tell you you

0:19:59.919 --> 0:20:02.999
<v Speaker 2>are fucking capable of doing what you need to do, Like,

0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 2>stop with this bullshit and get to work, like I'm

0:20:05.679 --> 0:20:08.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'll clack like I'm not going to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to hear it from you, because I

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<v Speaker 2>choose to believe that through your attitude and through your actions,

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<v Speaker 2>you can move the needle over time, not overnight overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the obstacle. It is a lack of hope, discouragement,

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 2>the belief that it's not going to work for you

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 2>is the reason why most people stay where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in a moment in time where you have

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<v Speaker 2>more information than you could possibly need. If you do

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<v Speaker 2>not know how to change your life or make a

0:20:44.879 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 2>million dollars or connect with your kids who won't talk

0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to you, just go to chat GTP.

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<v Speaker 1>Type in the thing you want to change.

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<v Speaker 2>It will spit out a thirty day, day by day

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do, and most of it will probably be accurate.

0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Some of it won't.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you follow the step by step protocol that

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>it spits out, I guarantee you it would work. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to look at that listener and no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to work for me. My problems are too

0:21:10.919 --> 0:21:13.399
<v Speaker 2>and then you start talking yourself out of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe that it is this sense of discouragement

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that Kate can change your life but I can't. Kate

0:21:20.159 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>can connect with her kids, but I can't. Kate can

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<v Speaker 2>wake up at four point thirty in the morning and

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.720
<v Speaker 2>have a hair mask in her hair and no water,

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<v Speaker 2>and she'll figure it out, but I can't because Kate

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.479
<v Speaker 2>has a husband and I don't have a husband, and

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 2>so I can. And so do you see how this

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 2>sense that it's not going to work For me, this

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>lack of hope actually stops you from doing what you're

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:43.199
<v Speaker 2>capable of doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, that that.

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<v Speaker 2>Admission to yourself that your life is not how you

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.120
<v Speaker 2>want it to feel, or your relationship is, or your

0:21:53.159 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>body is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's step one.

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<v Speaker 2>Step two is actually saying, even if I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to work, by God, I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>act as if I am that person, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it before I feel like doing. That is

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.919
<v Speaker 2>the secret, like not waiting for someone else to do it,

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.479
<v Speaker 2>not waiting for the motivation to come, because motivation is

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 2>garbage is not coming. That's not how your body works.

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.719
<v Speaker 2>And this was a huge wake up call for me.

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I wish I had known this when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. I didn't know that our minds are wired

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 2>against change. They can change, they love to change, but

0:22:27.879 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to feel ready to change your mind's

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<v Speaker 2>default toward.

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<v Speaker 1>What feels easy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we sit on the couch instead of going

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 2>to the gym, That's why we watch TV instead of

0:22:37.399 --> 0:22:40.159
<v Speaker 2>working on our resume, because our minds are wired to

0:22:40.159 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 2>do what feels easy right now. In order to change,

0:22:43.679 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>a human being has to do something that is difficult.

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, if change were easy, we'd all have a

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>million dollars, we'd all have six back abs, we'd all

0:22:54.679 --> 0:22:59.479
<v Speaker 2>like have everything we've ever wanted. Change happens when you

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.639
<v Speaker 2>are ready to do the thing you don't feel like doing.

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's the formula.

0:23:02.879 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 2>If you just did the shit you didn't feel like doing,

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 2>you'd have everything you've ever wanted. And so one of

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the huge wake up calls for me, Kate, is realizing

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>nobody's coming, Nobody's going to do this for me. I

0:23:12.679 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 2>can either circle the drain and go down it bitching

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 2>about my husband and being right that he's the loser

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 2>that did this to us. Or I can wake up

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 2>and say, the way that life is going doesn't work.

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 2>If I want to save this house, I got to

0:23:24.919 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 2>do something about it. If I want to stop feeling bad,

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I got to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 3>What was Can you remember the first thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>did that was difficult?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I can. It was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday morning in February two thousand and eight. I know

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the exact morning I had. For six months, the alarm

0:23:47.159 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 2>would ring and I would lay in bed because we

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>had so many problems. My gut, your mind, will look

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>for whatever you tell it to. If you put garbage

0:23:55.679 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 2>in it, your mind will have garbage out just looking

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>for what's wrong. I would wake up every day and

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>let me be clear, there's a lot wrong about my life.

0:24:04.639 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I was very correct in seeing a lot of negative

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:10.959
<v Speaker 2>things because there were a lot of negative things. I

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 2>was drinking myself into the ground. We had eight hundred

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.719
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars in debt. There were six months of bills

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>piled up on that countertop. There were leans that had

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 2>hit that house. Friends and family had invested in my

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>husband's restaurant business. I had lost my job. Like, there

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.719
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of reasons to feel sorry for myself,

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>and boy, oh boyd did I There was a lot

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>of reasons we pissed off at my husband, and let

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>me tell you, I was. But the question is, are

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>those reasons and that anger actually helping you?

0:24:41.639 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Are they helping you?

0:24:43.639 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a point in time where you're going to

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get so sick of your own bullshit that you finally

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>do something different. And for me, it was a Tuesday

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>morning in February twenty, two thousand and eight, and the

0:24:57.159 --> 0:25:01.959
<v Speaker 2>night before I had seen this rocket launch across the

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.959
<v Speaker 2>television screen, and it gave me this like crazy idea

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 2>to try to launch myself out of bed. Now, I

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>had had a lot of bourbon that night, and so

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 2>that's probably why I had that dumb idea. But for

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, the next morning, the alarm rings and I

0:25:16.159 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 2>remember that dumb idea of launching myself like NASA does

0:25:19.399 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>five four three two one, like literally count back and

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.759
<v Speaker 2>launch yourself. And I started to think about how I

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:26.759
<v Speaker 2>felt about doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the mistake. You stop and think about how

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And immediately I saw all the negative. I don't feel

0:25:35.399 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>like getting out of bed. It's cold, it's dark, it's February,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 2>which is winter in Boston, Massachusetts. How the hell is

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>getting out of bed going to pay my bills? I'm

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 2>pissed off at Chris, Like what the And I started

0:25:45.879 --> 0:25:48.959
<v Speaker 2>reaching for the snooze button, which is a massive form

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 2>of avoidance. Great way to start the day, let's just

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 2>procrastinate by getting out getting out of bed. But for

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, that morning, February two thousand and eight, I

0:25:58.679 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 2>made one decision that changed my life. I just started

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 2>counting backwards five four three two one, and then I

0:26:03.879 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 2>rolled out of bed and it was this weird moment,

0:26:08.879 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 2>first time I had gotten out of bed when the

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>alarm ranged in six months, and it felt like a

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 2>small victory. And it was because it was the first

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 2>time that the negativity and the bad mood and the

0:26:21.679 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>anger and the depression and all of the problems.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time they didn't win.

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Because you you won. You deserted yourself.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh I took action, Yes, yes, I took the action

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>despite the feelings. And you know, for you listening or

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 2>watching right now, I'm going to tell you something. There

0:26:39.679 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 2>are things that you know you need to do and

0:26:41.679 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you've been waiting around to feel better.

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Do not do that.

0:26:44.679 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to feel better until you take the

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>action first. Because what happens is, and this is sort

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>of how to break down what's actually happening, is your

0:26:53.159 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>mind is watching and every morning that you hit the

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>snooze button six times, it becomes your identity and your

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.959
<v Speaker 2>brain's like, oh, I'm the kind of person that just

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>avoids doing the hard things, and then you avoid doing

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>more hard things. This is why you should never allow

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>your children's anxiety to have them opt out of something,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>because when you allow your children's anxiety to let them

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>avoid doing something that scares them. You allowing them to

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>op out communicates to them in their brain that they're

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>not capable of doing hard things, and so you make

0:27:24.639 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 2>the anxiety worse. How do I know that because I

0:27:26.639 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>did this with my children, I made their anxiety worse

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know.

0:27:29.639 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Now I know, and so.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I learned through that experience that doing something that you

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like doing is a skill. Learning how to

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>do things just because you know they need to get done,

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.239
<v Speaker 2>which you can do in lots of areas your life. Look,

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't like unloading the dishwasher, I still do it.

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I never feel like folding laundry, I still do it.

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like picking up the dog poo in

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the yard before we mow it, I still do it.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.239
<v Speaker 2>There are areas of your life where you do this,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>but when it comes to the most important things, you're

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 2>waiting for the feelings to align with the action, and

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it is the opposite act first, and then how you

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>feel changes. And here's what also happens. You start to

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>see yourself differently, seeing myself get out of bed when

0:28:22.679 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the alarm rang starts to become if you start to

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>do it, most mornings, you start to see yourself as

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 2>the kind of person who gets out of bed when

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the alarm rings, versus the kind of person who lays

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>there and stares at the ceiling like a human pot roast,

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>marinating in fear and all your problems and how that

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>And it was the action, not the thinking, that changed

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the way you see yourself. And so, Kate, a lot

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>of people will ask me, now, how the hell did

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you build this insane business that you have and this

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 2>podcast and these books, and how do you have thirty

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>five people working for you and udios in Boston and

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you're fifty six? How you, I literally say, by learning

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>how to get out of bed on the mornings I don't.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Feel like it.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Because if you can learn how to get out of

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>bed when you don't feel like it, if you can

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>learn how to have non alcoholic drink instead of an

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>alcoholic drink when you don't feel when you can learn

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>how to go for a walk when you don't feel

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>like it, when you can learn how to start a

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>conversation that's hard when you don't feel like it, you

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>can do anything.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the secret.

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>And so that period of my life taught me that

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>action and acting consistently with the things that I want

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>gives you what you want in life.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Up next, Mel Robbins dives into how hitting rock bottom

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>saved her marriage and her life. Don't go anywhere. How

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 3>did that extrapolate to your husband and your children at

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 3>that time? So they've been living with someone who, like

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 3>you said, is Marinity black apold christ as as I

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 3>guess Chris was at the time as well.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 2>No, Chris was running for me because I was a

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>complete bitch to be around. Like he's a very smart man.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He was drinking himself into the ground. Yeah, how it

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>translated is my mood shifted. Problems started getting solved. I

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.759
<v Speaker 2>got myself a job, I started asking for help. I

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>started being honest about what was going on. I started

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>five four three two one. Instead of screaming at Chris,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I would settle myself. So one decision, one action at

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>a time. I started to take different actions, and those

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>changed the course of everything. And it all starts with you.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Like we're all sitting around waiting to be rescued or

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>waiting for somebody else to do it. You have so

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>much more power, Like think about yourself and the power

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>that you have, Like the weather. You can be sunny

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and that changes everybody around you.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the power that you have.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Or you can be a storm and we all know

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>people who walk in a room and they are a

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>storm and their energy affects everybody. You get to choose

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>being in a positive and action oriented mindset for no reason,

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.959
<v Speaker 2>because right now you're in a very negative or self

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>doubting one for no particular reason other than the fact

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>that you're used to it.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 3>So Chris rose to meet you, the new you, when

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you could show yourself again to.

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Be not really okay, not really?

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>How is that?

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't make other people change, You can't like Chris,

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Chris started using five four three two one and went

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>back into his restaurant business and renegotiated leases and laid

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>off a bunch of people and went to the investors.

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 2>And it was like a slog for years and years

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 2>and years turning it around. But you know, when he

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.479
<v Speaker 2>left the restaurant business in twenty fourteen, he was a

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>shell of himself. So six years later he's doing the stuff.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>But he hadn't addressed his drinking. He hadn't addressed the

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.719
<v Speaker 2>shame that he felt about the fact that you know,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 2>as a man.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is speaking in very heterosexual norms.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>He felt he had failed because he didn't provide for

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.759
<v Speaker 2>his family and his business was in a success and

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>he lost people's money and he went into a dark

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>depression and every want I just you know, an angry,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>resentful wife who was now out there like having to

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>make the money and you know, working three jobs and

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>making the ends meet, while he's barely able to hold

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>it together. And this is the thing about life. You

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>cannot heal another person. You cannot do the work for

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>another person. The way that you actually do the work

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>for other people is you do the work to make

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you proud of yourself.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>You do the.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Work to align your actions every day in a way

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 2>that makes you proud of yourself. And if you are

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>proud of yourself, because you get out of bed and

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>you make your bed and you have a morning routine

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>that makes you feel like you and then you go

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>to work and you're a good person and you're kind

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to people, and you do the best that you can,

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and you try hard to stay in control of your emotions.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>You're not an asshole to people. And you end the

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>day and put your head on your pillow and say,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what I did the best I could today.

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of myself.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>You're winning, Yeah, you're winning. And then people are attracted

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>to the qualities that you are demonstrating. They're like mail,

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>how do you know the secret of you always seem

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 3>like you're in a good mood or think great things

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 3>are happening for you.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Taught myself how to be cape and here's why. Let's

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>just take what happened to you this morning with the

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>hair mask and the water being turned off and all

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff. In a situation like that, and I'm

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>a very pragmatic person, if you allow the things in

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 2>life that you can't control. You can't control the fact

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that you didn't get the text because.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>You didn't get the text. You can't control that the

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>water was getting turned off.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't control the fact that the hairs that

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the hair masks are because it's already in your hair.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>So let them, let them, let them.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>And if you then go into a really negative attitude

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and you let yourself get all worried and stressed out

0:34:33.759 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>or worse, you start going, why am I a stupid

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>idiot who always does these kinds of things? And now

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to this interview and it's going

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to be terrible because of this happen, and you do

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that to yourself, which we do to ourselves in these moments.

0:34:48.799 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>What happens is.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>You trigger your own brain to go from present and

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>fully capable of handling the situation to a stress response,

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>and you're a migdala in the back of your brain

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>turns on. You go into fight or flight and stress

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>out mode. And the research is very clear when you're

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>amygdala is turned on because you're now negative and criticizing

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.999
<v Speaker 2>yourself and doomsday and all that stuff that you've done

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>your whole life to yourself, you actually can't think clearly

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>because the prefrontal cortex isn't working at its full capacity.

0:35:30.799 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So your habit of just going.

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Into a bad mood and a bad attitude, which then

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>makes you stressed out, actually makes everything worse because you

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 2>can't bring your thinking and your problem solving online to

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>help you. That's what happens. And when I started to realize,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I have forever defaulted to doubting myself.

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I have forever defaulted to worrying or second and guesting

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>or questioning or like wondering, you know, if other people

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 2>are going to approve I've forever trained myself to do this,

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>why not train yourself to do the opposite. Why not

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>train yourself to be in a good mood just because

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 2>you know that it's going to help you in those

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 2>situations when life goes sideways and there's plenty of things

0:36:26.279 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>to be in a bad mood about. But does the

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 2>bad mood help you? That's the question.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, you tell an interesting story and let them

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 3>and the power of that book and that theory is

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>so great that even when I was doing a really

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 3>deep dive on you and the book in preparation for

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 3>our interview, it helped me. I wasn't looking for it,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>wasn't looking for help, just that there were I realized

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>that there were instances in my life it work related

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 3>things where you know, sometimes you feel excluded from things

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and their friends and they're working with other people or whatever,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 3>and I went, oh, my goodness, let them right. This

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 3>is how powerful. It is. Very powerful. When I was

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 3>reading about you with the greater purpose not being myself,

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I still reap the benefit from it. Extraordinary. But you

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 3>tell a story in the book and when you go

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>to your friend's place and she's got this renovated house.

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, and you feel.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Jealous, yeah jealous.

0:37:44.279 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I literally like I literally wanted to die. Like,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 2>have you ever had a friend who all of a

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>sudden they moved to like the fancy of your town,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>or they moved from renting an apartment to this like

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 2>brownstone that they buy And then they invite you over

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>for dinner, and as you're driving up the long driveway, thinking.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>How the hell do they have this much money?

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>And then they open up the door, and you're happy

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>for your friend, because your friend works hard and your

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>friend deserves to me happy, but you're just not happy

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>for yourself because as you're gripping the wine glass and

0:38:17.759 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>you're grinning your teeth trying to smile Thatt like freak smile,

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and every single corner of their house looks like a

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 2>display on Pinterest. And then you turn the corner and

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>there is your dream kitchen.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>And she's got a white can that's and the.

0:38:37.799 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Marble countertops, and you're like, you, bitch, I shouldn't have

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>shown you my Pinterest boards.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You stole my kitchen, right, and then you and you literally, you.

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Know, if you're anything like me, at the time, because

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>this happened to me, this particular story, when we're still

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>really struggling financially, you hold it together and then when

0:38:59.279 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you get in the car and you go to drive away,

0:39:03.279 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you turn to your poor partner and you're like, why

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't you have been in finance? Why did you have

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to be a nice person? Why couldn't you make money.

0:39:14.799 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Like you just like aim it at them? Oh my god,

0:39:17.799 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>it was so bad, you know.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I believed that success and happiness and friendship and kitchens

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>with white countertops were in limited supply. I believed and

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 2>went through life that if Kate has a podcast, I

0:39:32.799 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>can't have one, that if you go on a vacation

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to them all these I can't that if you wear

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 2>embroidered like that, somehow your success or your happiness is

0:39:46.799 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>robbing me of mine that there was And it's such bullshit.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 2>These things are in limitless supply if you're willing to

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>wake up every day and do the.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Boring, annoying, ruling.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Work that it takes to create these things in your life.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't happen overnight, Like you're not going to

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 2>get the kitchen in the next five years, but you

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 2>might get it in the next fifteen. But here's the

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>mistake I was making. I actually thought I was competing

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>against other people. Nobody is like against you. I really

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>mean this, I really want. I want you to just

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>understand something that other people don't block your way. Other

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>people lead the way. They show you what's possible. And

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>when you get that jealous I didn't understand jealousy. Jealousy

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 2>is so interesting to unpack because you only get jealous

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of things you authentically want. It is impossible to be

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 2>jealous of something you don't want. I'm not jealous of

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 2>anybody who drives a yellow Lamborghini. I don't want one.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>But I might be jealous of a friend who has

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.959
<v Speaker 2>all of their kids, who you know, my kids are

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>now adults who live near them, because I want that.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Jealousy comes from a very deep and authentic place, because

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it is a desire of yours that is somehow blocked.

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's either blocked because you've told yourself you can't

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>have that, or it's never going to happen, or you've

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>told yourself I can't do that, or things like that

0:41:37.799 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>don't happen to people like me, and jealousy rises up

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>because you actually aren't doing anything to walk toward it.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 3>But now you realize that you must have friends who

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 3>are jealous of you.

0:41:56.239 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, let them. I'm not stopping them from doing anything.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>And now what I realize is how sad that I

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>went through my life for the first fifty four years

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>jealous of people that actually could have, for those fifty

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 2>four years been a source of inspiration, a source of information,

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a source of support.

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, my friend was never against me.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I could have leaned in and been like, oh my gosh,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Like how do I go from where I am to

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>where you are?

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.399
<v Speaker 2>What if I just painted my cabinets white? Now it's

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>not going to be my dream kitchen, but I'm now

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 2>signaling to my own brain that it's something that I

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>want that I don't have to wait for. Sure, it

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of sucks that I can't afford to hire somebody,

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 2>but I can make it a date night and paint

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the cabs as myself with my husband, Like why do

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I have to let somebody else's wins be my loss?

0:42:51.759 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>You need to see these things as signals of what

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>your own heart is calling you toward, and it's like

0:42:59.000 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>a wake up call.

0:42:59.799 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Get to fucking work.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, stop telling yourself you can't have this stuff. Stop

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 2>coming up with excuses, because there are a million ways

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 2>to figure out.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, if you have a friend.

0:43:10.799 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>That's in fantastic sheep because she's got serious about her

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>hormones and she's been lifting weight and now you know

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 2>sheoks better than she did in her forties. If you're

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 2>jealous of it, okay, great, get going. Ask her what

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>she did, Ask for what supplements she takes, Ask her

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>what her exercise routine. Let her lead the way instead

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 2>of telling yourself a lie that somehow Okay.

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Well she's done it. No, I can't do it because

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it'll be copying her. No, that's ridiculous.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 3>After the break, Mel Robbins explains how to let Them

0:43:47.279 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 3>theory became a global movement and later makes a huge

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:57.479
<v Speaker 3>announcement that you are not going to want to miss.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>When your daughter Kendall gave you the let them basically

0:44:07.279 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 3>the mantra the night that you were trying to control things,

0:44:10.759 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 3>a story that you've told about your your son Oakley's

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 3>prom night when you were trying to control and she

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 3>just kept saying, let them, let them, let them go

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 3>to the taco stand, let them go in the rain,

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 3>let them just do what they want. What was the

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 3>moment when you realized, oh, my goodness, this is something

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 3>to live by.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 2>It did not like that night was when my shoulders

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>dropped and I'm like, why do I care so much?

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I was being your typical controlling mom, and let

0:44:38.279 --> 0:44:40.919
<v Speaker 2>me be honest about something, kid. I've been trying to

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>be more stoic my entire life. I'm married to a Buddhist.

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>It's super annoying when you're like crazy controlling and you

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 2>grip the wheel of life and Chris is just.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Like, let them, let them. Buddhists say let them.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why this theory has exploded. It's not a

0:44:55.320 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>new idea. It is a modern version. I created the theory,

0:45:00.759 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I made the case for it. But the reason why

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>it's exploded is I'm reminding you of what you've known

0:45:06.279 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>to be true since the beginning of time. Now, let

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 2>them theory is how you bestow it. The let them

0:45:11.759 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 2>theory is how you apply the serenity prayer when life

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>is pissing you off. The let them theory is radical

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>acceptance because when you say let them, you're not allowing

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>anybody to do anything. You're recognizing who they are and

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing when you say let them. You're practicing

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 2>CBT therapy and detachment therapy. See, it's a tool that

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 2>allows you to access these.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Deep, deep, deep things.

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>The second part of the theory let me Hell. My

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>mother has a version of this is a needle pointed

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>pillow that says, pull up your big girl panties and

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 2>deal with it.

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>That's let me. That's what that is.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 2>And so people read this book and they're nodding along

0:45:51.759 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>because we all have a sense that we've always known

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that this is true. We just never knew how to

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 2>take these intellectual and therapeutic concepts and apply them in

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>a moment where you're hurt, or you're strut or you're scared,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>or you're upset about something. And so you know, for me,

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I have been posting about these topics for years. But

0:46:15.799 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the truth is, when life would get overwhelming, I would

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 2>be just like everybody else, I'd be completely like freaked

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 2>out and unable to access stoicism, and so I'd just

0:46:25.279 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>like spiral. But as she said that, it stopped me

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 2>for my spiral, and then I just started to anytime

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I was stressed out or annoyed or bothered. I would

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>literally just say, let them, whether I was standing in

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>a long line or somebody's walking slow in front of me.

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 2>And here's what I noticed. People are fucking annoying, and

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>they stress you out, and they hurt your feelings, and

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 2>most of the things that make you stressed have to

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 2>do with other people. And I started to recognize there's

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 2>a totally different way for me to live my life.

0:46:57.759 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Why am I giving so much time and energy to

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>other people? Why am I giving time and energy to

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 2>things I can't control? Why am I trying to change

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>your every Why is it my job to make everybody happy?

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Let them be miserable, let them try to make me

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>feel guilty, let them. And here's the thing, though, I

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 2>want to tell you, Kate, is that it was just

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 2>to let them. Theory, it was just let them, let them,

0:47:18.799 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>let them, let them, let them, let them. For the

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>first six months, it was let them, let them, let them.

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>And I started writing this book and I finished the

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 2>first draft, and I'm like, something's wrong because the book

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was let them, let them, let them, let them, let them,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>let them.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>What the them? Let them? Let them?

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 2>And my daughter came home and from a big solo

0:47:38.799 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 2>backpacking trip. She was actually in Australia, New Zealand and

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>all over Asia, and she needed money because she was broke.

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, you are a walking human Excel spreadsheet.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to give you a research assignment. I've

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>just finished this draft of this book. Something's missing. I

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>want you to go back into all the inbox and

0:47:59.279 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 2>look at the comments on the podcast episode I did

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 2>about this, and look at the comments on the you

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 2>tube episode I've done about this. Nobody knew I was

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 2>writing a book yet I had just done the podcast episode,

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I want you to look for what's

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 2>not working. I want you to look for how are

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>people using it, what are they saying about it? What

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>are they saying in terms of I started using it,

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 2>but now it's not working, and come back to me.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 2>I thought it would take her four weeks. She came

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>back within thirty six hours. She had a twenty seven

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.999
<v Speaker 2>page Excel spreadsheet, columned, tabbed source links, and she had

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>this synopsis at the top and she's like, can't write

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the book. Like, what do you mean you can't write

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the book. I'm writing the book. She's like, Mom, you

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:39.959
<v Speaker 2>can't write the book. I said, why can't I write

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the book? She said, people are using let them, and

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>they're lonely because when you say let them, you realize,

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I'm the only sibling in my family

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that reaches out, and when I stop reaching out, nobody does.

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:54.439
<v Speaker 1>And wait a minute.

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>My friends are jerks because I invite them everywhere, but

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 2>they often make plans without me.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm so to just let them.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, this person that I've been dating for

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 2>a year actually treats me like crap, Like I'm basically

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 2>thinking I'm going to marry somebody who won't put a

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>label on this relationship.

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm so to just let them.

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.399
<v Speaker 2>And she said, there has to be a second part, mom,

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 2>because once you recognize the truth in your relationships and

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 2>the truth that your boss doesn't recognize your contributions, you

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 2>don't want to sit in feeling disempowered and lonely. There

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>has to be a second part. And I was like,

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>what's the second part?

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>She's like, let me.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>And so the second part of the theory, which is

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>how you take your power back and you recognize it.

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.479
<v Speaker 2>In life, there's only three things you control, what you think,

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>what you do or don't do, and how you process

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the very real emotions that rise and fall every day.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was because of her and her research that

0:49:56.799 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the theory became fully developed. And then we spent the

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 2>next nine months writing the book.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Mel Robin, Thank you for you, Yes, thank you for

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 3>being a friend to so many, Thank you for changing lives.

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>As a final glimpse into you, what would you like

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 3>to change in yourself?

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh? What would I like to change in myself?

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I think in a moment like this, where you have

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this enormous thing happening, it's very very easy to want

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 2>to do more. And because I nearly lost everything that

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>mattered to me my family, my home, my sanity, my marriage,

0:50:55.680 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get so busy that I lose

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>sight of the things that are important. So it's not

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that I, you know, I'm trying to change anything. I

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 2>want to make sure that I don't change, that I

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.479
<v Speaker 2>stay laser focused on showing up.

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>In a way that makes me very proud.

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>That I really protect my time and energy so that

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I can continue to spend a lot of it with

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 2>my family and with my friends. That I don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>forget who I am at my core and get all

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<v Speaker 2>caught up in the bigness of this or anything else

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<v Speaker 2>huge that I lose sight of who I am. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I like this is being proud of yourself

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>because of how you live your life is the winning formula.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 2>And you have full control over training your mind to

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 2>think differently. You have full control over how you wake

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 2>up in the morning, the series of actions that you

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 2>take once you do, and I really hope that you

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 2>will take the truth of what I'm sharing with you

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.839
<v Speaker 2>in these simple tools, whether it's five four three two one,

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.399
<v Speaker 2>or it is let them and let me, and you

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>try them, Like you don't have to buy the book,

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>try the theory. It's so simple, and see if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel better, See if you're less stressed. See if learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to accept the challenging people in your life for

0:52:39.279 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>who they are and who they're not. See if learning

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>how to do that actually brings you closer to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm telling you, if you really embrace this and

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 2>you try this in your life, you will recognize that

0:52:51.799 --> 0:52:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you've had You've got the tools, and you have all

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 2>this power. And when you stop giving it away and

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you reclaim it and you push yourself to live your way,

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<v Speaker 2>in a life that makes you prey, you will be

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<v Speaker 2>proud of yourself no matter what people say about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Mel Robins, you deserve to be proud of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one thing I want to tell you is that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, I'm coming to Australia New Zealand. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you and the only way that you're gonna And I

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<v Speaker 2>have not told anybody, We have not announced it yet,

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 2>but for your audience. Yeah, if you're not on my

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<v Speaker 2>newsletter list at Melrobins dot com, you better get on

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>it because that's who's going to hear about this first.

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<v Speaker 2>And I cannot wait to be in person.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the Mama Maya audience will love this. Will you

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<v Speaker 3>bring the family?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am honored to be able to share that

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<v Speaker 2>with you for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring them all, Bring all the Robinsons. We want all

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 3>of you. Wow, that's quite an announcement. Mel Robins is

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 3>heading our way in twenty twenty six, and we got

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<v Speaker 3>the exclusive here on No Filter. What really stands out

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 3>for me is how Mel has turned her personal journey

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 3>and to let them theory, into not just a movement,

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 3>but a global empire. It's pretty mind blowing to see

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<v Speaker 3>how she's taken her message and made it into a

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<v Speaker 3>business that has touched millions, myself included. The executive producer

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<v Speaker 3>of No Filter is Naima Brown. Senior producer is Bree Player,

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<v Speaker 3>with audio production by Jacob Brown and video production by

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Green. And I am your host Kate Lane Brook.

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<v Speaker 3>I will see you next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, this is Naima Brown, the executive producer of No Filter,

0:54:51.759 --> 0:54:53.959
<v Speaker 5>and today we're bringing you a taste of a new

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 5>podcast we've just released, cald I Never Told You This.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about connection, about brave conversations and how to have

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<v Speaker 5>more honest relationships. If you want to continue to listen

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:08.439
<v Speaker 5>to this series, it will be dropping over in our

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<v Speaker 5>But Are You Happy? Podcast will pop links to but

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<v Speaker 5>Are You Happy in the show notes Happy Listening.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a Shiny Dante host of But Are You Happy?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you know that one in five Australians experience and

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 6>mental health condition each year? Yet too many suffer in silence.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking about our feelings and experiences is one of the

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<v Speaker 6>most powerful steps towards healing and knowing we're not alone.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why we're introducing I Never Told You This, a

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just actually feeling really freaking angry right now. What

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<v Speaker 4>a wasted emotion?

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<v Speaker 7>Pride is two people, one big reveal. I never told

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<v Speaker 7>you this a simple card game where one question could

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<v Speaker 1>What's more things.

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<v Speaker 3>Brings my joy? I'm not going to answer that.

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<v Speaker 7>Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever.

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<v Speaker 7>As they finished this sentence, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Never told you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never told you. They never told you this.

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<v Speaker 7>Today, cousins Tina and Dula will be sitting down together.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know how she's going to take what I'll

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<v Speaker 8>be sharing with her.

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<v Speaker 7>Yula has something big to reveal to her cousin Tina.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, Well, I've got this fun game called the Mediebank

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<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm up for anything.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to pick up a card now. In what

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 8>way do you think we're similar?

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<v Speaker 4>Both can talk underwater, Both got a very quirky outlook

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<v Speaker 4>on life, willing to train anything once.

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<v Speaker 1>How long will we got? My John?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go tell us about an embarrassing childhood memory.

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<v Speaker 8>At your house in the country. When I decided to

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<v Speaker 8>lock my sister in the out what are they called

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<v Speaker 8>the toilet outhouse and didn't tell anyone came inside the

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 8>house or playing or playing and dancing to music.

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<v Speaker 1>I got into so much trouble.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a very bad thing to do, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>very you regret it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to answer that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a family tradition you hope continues for generations.

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<v Speaker 8>In our culture? Great Easter is one of the biggest nights.

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<v Speaker 8>It's quite spectacular.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the middle of the night, that's something different.

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<v Speaker 8>My turn to pick up a card. I never told

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<v Speaker 8>you this, Okay. You know how whenever I see you,

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<v Speaker 8>you are constantly asking me why I'm giving you things,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's food, useless.

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<v Speaker 3>Objects, nice things.

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<v Speaker 8>And we've tried, you've tried to diagnose it some sort

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<v Speaker 8>correct correct, And I do know why I do it,

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 8>and it's because the big one when I was about

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<v Speaker 8>between the ages of eight and twelve, whenever you close

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<v Speaker 8>the takeaway shop that you owned in the country eight

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<v Speaker 8>hours six eight hours away, it was you'd come down

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<v Speaker 8>for public holidays. You'd called us when you're on your way,

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<v Speaker 8>and then we'd just been camped outside waiting and counting

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<v Speaker 8>the cars for the whole hours, and then when you'd

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<v Speaker 8>finally get there and say, oh, you know, you're so

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 8>excited to see me, which I genuinely was. But part

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<v Speaker 8>of the reason I was excited was that I knew

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<v Speaker 8>your family would be bringing all the food from the shop.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know whether you knew. My mum never wanted

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 8>me to tell you. She didn't want any of you

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 8>to know that we didn't have money for food.

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<v Speaker 6>The rest of this episode of I never told you

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<v Speaker 8>I remember some weeks we would eat nothing but oiled potatoes.

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<v Speaker 8>We would often go days without any food. We were

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<v Speaker 8>literally starving and just seeing that car and all the

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<v Speaker 8>food and things that I would never be able to

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 8>afford to buy, like chips and chocolates was just like

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<v Speaker 8>our lifeline.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. I'm sorry, that's huge. I had no idea. I'm

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 4>just actually feeling really freaking angry right now because it

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<v Speaker 4>just goes to show what a wasted emotion pride is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're cousins. We never wanted for anything. We

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have lots of everything. We had enough, and to

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<v Speaker 4>think that you guys didn't have enough breaks my heart.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm sure if my family, my parents reached out,

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<v Speaker 8>your parents would have absolutely helped us.

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<v Speaker 4>You always look after the children. It's not anything to

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<v Speaker 4>put an extra plate out, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I know things were hard, like you know, especially for

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<v Speaker 4>immigrant families, you know, with parents learning English as a

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:55.200
<v Speaker 4>second language, things were quited up. I remember my dad

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<v Speaker 4>telling me, you know that he'd often work three or

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<v Speaker 4>four jobs at a time just to try and make

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<v Speaker 4>ends meet. But I just assumed that you guys were

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<v Speaker 4>always okay.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>My dad had his own issues and couldn't keep a

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<v Speaker 8>job down. My mum had mental health issues. Both our

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:12.959
<v Speaker 8>families migrated. Your parents opened up a shop and were

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<v Speaker 8>doing well. Mine was struggling to make ends meet or

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<v Speaker 8>hold down any regular work. Your parents were successful and

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<v Speaker 8>they were failures.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that's something that it's just endemic and bunks,

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<v Speaker 4>not just Greeks, but lots of cultures. They waste their

1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:28.680
<v Speaker 4>time worrying about what are the people going to think,

1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:31.320
<v Speaker 4>when actually no one's thinking about them at all. If

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<v Speaker 4>my dad had known that things were that difficult for you,

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<v Speaker 4>he would have employed your parents. You know, we could

1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:38.760
<v Speaker 4>have all lived together and worked together, because God knows

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<v Speaker 4>we needed worses. You know something it didn't have to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Moving forward. It's how do we make it better for

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<v Speaker 8>us and our children and how important it is to

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<v Speaker 8>ask for help. It might be the norm to suffer

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<v Speaker 8>in silence, so we know in our culture it's a

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<v Speaker 8>pride thing. But we need to change that, and we

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<v Speaker 8>change that by coming out setting an exam.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean remember when we were kids. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>find any You couldn't find a translator. How many times

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<v Speaker 4>did you get dragged to an office with you Mum

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<v Speaker 4>and dad? I want to explain something, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think definitely is a social thing. We are progressing

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<v Speaker 4>as a society, but as you said, it is very

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<v Speaker 4>important that newcomers understand everybody needs to understand it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's nothing wrong with asking for help, and

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<v Speaker 4>all you're doing by hanging on to some ridiculous pride

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<v Speaker 4>is just injuring yourself.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like this whole weight has come off and

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<v Speaker 8>that I can sleep well tonight, you know, decades later.

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<v Speaker 8>As soon as I see your car pulling up, it

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<v Speaker 8>just takes me back to that childhood, and the instinct

1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:51.160
<v Speaker 8>is the happiness, the happiness, the food, and I just

1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:54.680
<v Speaker 8>feel eternally obligated to give something back, which is why

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<v Speaker 8>I will not let you leave my house without things,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's olives or sweets.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just you've held onto this for so many years,

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<v Speaker 4>and how many hours have we waste and try to

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<v Speaker 4>goag knows what kind of disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>You have we called a reverse hoarding. Audi. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I really appreciate you coming on board today. I know

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<v Speaker 8>it's been suspenseful, and I hope you are able to

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<v Speaker 8>accept what happened and not take any responsibility for it

1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:30.519
<v Speaker 8>and just appreciate what you did and what a big

1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:32.840
<v Speaker 8>impact you had in my life, because that's what I

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<v Speaker 8>want this to be about.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's anything I couldn't ask you for

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope that you feel the same genuine time to.

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<v Speaker 3>Mumma. Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land and

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<v Speaker 3>waters that this podcast is recorded on.