1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm Mom with Me a podcast. 2 00:00:15,434 --> 00:00:19,954 Speaker 2: Makeup is my therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even 3 00:00:19,954 --> 00:00:25,994 Speaker 2: feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty, 4 00:00:26,034 --> 00:00:27,154 Speaker 2: the podcast for Your Face. 5 00:00:27,194 --> 00:00:29,114 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. 6 00:00:29,394 --> 00:00:32,914 Speaker 2: And this is the very start of Hot Pod Summer, 7 00:00:32,994 --> 00:00:35,754 Speaker 2: which means rogue, Rogue. 8 00:00:35,793 --> 00:00:38,553 Speaker 1: We have worked so hard for you guys because we 9 00:00:38,554 --> 00:00:40,074 Speaker 1: were like, you know what, We're not going to give 10 00:00:40,114 --> 00:00:44,193 Speaker 1: the ubies just like re shared old content because we 11 00:00:44,273 --> 00:00:45,913 Speaker 1: know that you've listened to them all already. 12 00:00:46,074 --> 00:00:48,153 Speaker 2: Yes, So while we're on a break, we'll sort of 13 00:00:48,153 --> 00:00:49,913 Speaker 2: on a break, we refuse to do real work. So 14 00:00:49,954 --> 00:00:51,833 Speaker 2: you'll see I'm not wearing my glasses. I don't even have. 15 00:00:51,754 --> 00:00:53,234 Speaker 1: An iPad or shoes. 16 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:55,554 Speaker 2: I do have shoes there behind me, but I hid 17 00:00:55,554 --> 00:00:58,434 Speaker 2: my feet and the dogs away band of talking about 18 00:00:58,434 --> 00:01:01,314 Speaker 2: feverit anyway, you're gonna have some really fun, really rogue, 19 00:01:01,354 --> 00:01:04,314 Speaker 2: really different episodes over the summer break. If you're taking one, 20 00:01:04,354 --> 00:01:07,634 Speaker 2: we're kind of taking one. Hen popping in to do stuff. 21 00:01:08,034 --> 00:01:10,754 Speaker 2: And this is the very first episode and I don't 22 00:01:10,754 --> 00:01:11,314 Speaker 2: know what we're doing. 23 00:01:11,354 --> 00:01:15,474 Speaker 1: We're doing a ask us anything anti Beauty Edition. So 24 00:01:15,594 --> 00:01:18,594 Speaker 1: this is a way for you to really just get 25 00:01:18,594 --> 00:01:21,074 Speaker 1: to know your you beauty hosts a little bit more 26 00:01:21,354 --> 00:01:25,074 Speaker 1: with some really niche questions that you asked and you 27 00:01:25,154 --> 00:01:25,754 Speaker 1: wanted to know. 28 00:01:26,034 --> 00:01:28,914 Speaker 2: I have not seen the questions, and Kelly's like literally 29 00:01:29,034 --> 00:01:30,754 Speaker 2: just got the iPad and had a glance because someone 30 00:01:30,754 --> 00:01:31,594 Speaker 2: has to read them to us. 31 00:01:31,794 --> 00:01:34,154 Speaker 1: Yes, well I'm going to oh, yes, that's what I mean. 32 00:01:34,234 --> 00:01:36,834 Speaker 2: Okay, we don't know them by osmosis, So get to 33 00:01:36,874 --> 00:01:38,594 Speaker 2: know us. Ask us anything. I'm scared. 34 00:01:38,754 --> 00:01:43,074 Speaker 1: Okay, what was your very first impression of each other? 35 00:01:45,834 --> 00:01:48,514 Speaker 2: Oh, Kelly, I've told this a few times in various 36 00:01:48,634 --> 00:01:51,514 Speaker 2: ways on the pod. Quick quick, quick backstory. Mea met 37 00:01:51,594 --> 00:01:54,154 Speaker 2: Kelly at an event I had just started at Mama 38 00:01:54,194 --> 00:01:56,554 Speaker 2: Mea a few months ago and Mia realized that people 39 00:01:56,554 --> 00:01:58,234 Speaker 2: were coming up to me because my beauty background and 40 00:01:58,274 --> 00:01:59,994 Speaker 2: asking me beauty question. She was like, we need you 41 00:02:00,034 --> 00:02:01,714 Speaker 2: a beauty podcast, and I was like, firstly, I don't, 42 00:02:01,754 --> 00:02:04,074 Speaker 2: I'm never doing a podcast. And secondly, beauty is visual 43 00:02:04,394 --> 00:02:06,754 Speaker 2: anyway me or is Maya. She's like, you need a 44 00:02:06,794 --> 00:02:08,874 Speaker 2: co ho obviously, blah blah blah. We trialed a whole 45 00:02:08,874 --> 00:02:10,874 Speaker 2: bunch of people. Then she came back from wherever she was. 46 00:02:10,913 --> 00:02:13,954 Speaker 2: She's like, I've found this woman. She was fabulous, she's bubbly, 47 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:16,674 Speaker 2: she's great. I think she even said she's opposite of you. 48 00:02:16,834 --> 00:02:18,554 Speaker 2: I'm going to get her in for a visit. And 49 00:02:18,594 --> 00:02:23,594 Speaker 2: I was like okay. And then in bounds this blonde, beautiful, 50 00:02:23,994 --> 00:02:30,194 Speaker 2: boisterous bubble of wow. And she was so excited and 51 00:02:30,234 --> 00:02:32,914 Speaker 2: so energetic, and she spoke faster than me somehow, and 52 00:02:33,034 --> 00:02:34,834 Speaker 2: just was like but in a Tasmanian devil all around 53 00:02:34,834 --> 00:02:36,154 Speaker 2: the office and left and then MEA said what did 54 00:02:36,194 --> 00:02:39,714 Speaker 2: you think? And I was like, oh yeah, And then 55 00:02:40,034 --> 00:02:43,074 Speaker 2: did you email or something? You said to me later? 56 00:02:44,314 --> 00:02:46,514 Speaker 2: Not apologies, but like I was extra excited. 57 00:02:46,794 --> 00:02:50,074 Speaker 1: I probably did apologize a little bit because I know 58 00:02:50,234 --> 00:02:51,074 Speaker 1: that I can come on. 59 00:02:51,074 --> 00:02:52,194 Speaker 2: A little bit strong. 60 00:02:52,594 --> 00:02:55,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fine, but it's just a lot if 61 00:02:55,154 --> 00:02:57,714 Speaker 1: you don't know me. Yes, it's just that I'm I 62 00:02:57,754 --> 00:03:00,794 Speaker 1: can get so over excited that I'm literally like a 63 00:03:00,794 --> 00:03:01,354 Speaker 1: puppy job. 64 00:03:01,394 --> 00:03:03,674 Speaker 2: And it wasn't you. It was more new job, new 65 00:03:03,754 --> 00:03:05,874 Speaker 2: format of media that I'd never done, meeting you, and 66 00:03:05,914 --> 00:03:08,034 Speaker 2: I was just so overwhelmed. But I like she is 67 00:03:08,154 --> 00:03:10,314 Speaker 2: a lot and I'm a lot, so that was my 68 00:03:10,394 --> 00:03:12,954 Speaker 2: first impression. We did some trials together, and then I 69 00:03:12,994 --> 00:03:14,994 Speaker 2: was like, oh, she's a legend because I saw normal. 70 00:03:15,074 --> 00:03:17,754 Speaker 1: After I calmed down, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What 71 00:03:17,834 --> 00:03:21,434 Speaker 1: was funny is that that wasn't the first time we'd met. 72 00:03:21,474 --> 00:03:23,954 Speaker 1: We'd met a bunch of times. So my first impression 73 00:03:23,994 --> 00:03:27,394 Speaker 1: of Lee was that she was terrifying because she was 74 00:03:27,514 --> 00:03:28,994 Speaker 1: just very intimidating. 75 00:03:29,594 --> 00:03:32,754 Speaker 2: Do you like directly, No, no, no, not in a 76 00:03:32,834 --> 00:03:35,914 Speaker 2: rude way. You are never rude. Did you meet at 77 00:03:35,914 --> 00:03:36,914 Speaker 2: a Loxiton event or something. 78 00:03:36,994 --> 00:03:39,634 Speaker 1: We've met at a few events over but I just 79 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:42,514 Speaker 1: clearly didn't make an impression. When I'm in an environment 80 00:03:42,514 --> 00:03:45,714 Speaker 1: where I'm so uncomfortable and don't know anyone, have never 81 00:03:45,754 --> 00:03:48,394 Speaker 1: met anyone, especially when I was younger, I go very. 82 00:03:49,154 --> 00:03:51,594 Speaker 2: I guess the opposite of what I met. Yet did 83 00:03:51,674 --> 00:03:54,434 Speaker 2: we interact? Yes? Was I nice? 84 00:03:55,274 --> 00:03:59,474 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, you weren't not nice? Professional, Yes you were. 85 00:03:59,634 --> 00:04:03,714 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say friendly, but you weren't rude or anything. Okay, 86 00:04:03,754 --> 00:04:05,674 Speaker 1: I think fair Lea's very professional. 87 00:04:05,794 --> 00:04:08,714 Speaker 2: That's the thing with beauty events is back then, especially, 88 00:04:08,754 --> 00:04:11,154 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't understand, like, you're 89 00:04:11,194 --> 00:04:13,194 Speaker 2: not going to breakfast with your friends or lunch with 90 00:04:13,234 --> 00:04:16,114 Speaker 2: your mates. It's an event, which is a work meeting, 91 00:04:16,154 --> 00:04:18,674 Speaker 2: and back in the day, particularly in print, the beauty 92 00:04:18,794 --> 00:04:22,714 Speaker 2: editor's job was to go be professional, seeing the praises 93 00:04:22,714 --> 00:04:25,193 Speaker 2: of their masthead and hopefully bring in advertising dollars as 94 00:04:25,234 --> 00:04:26,873 Speaker 2: well as learn about a new product. So I was 95 00:04:26,873 --> 00:04:29,154 Speaker 2: never there like hey, wow, yeah, Like I was always like, hi, 96 00:04:29,193 --> 00:04:31,314 Speaker 2: thank you so much for having mars. That was fantastic. 97 00:04:31,393 --> 00:04:32,714 Speaker 2: I go back to the office and follow up with 98 00:04:32,753 --> 00:04:35,354 Speaker 2: an email. So I wasn't particularly fun then. 99 00:04:35,794 --> 00:04:38,833 Speaker 1: I also think as I've gotten older, I've learned that. 100 00:04:38,993 --> 00:04:41,314 Speaker 1: I remember I used to hate beauty events when I 101 00:04:41,393 --> 00:04:44,474 Speaker 1: was in my twenties because I found them so CLICKI 102 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:47,234 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that when I'm thinking about 103 00:04:47,234 --> 00:04:52,193 Speaker 1: this from my old years, my old age, of course 104 00:04:52,234 --> 00:04:55,794 Speaker 1: it's clickie because you know certain people, so of course 105 00:04:55,794 --> 00:04:57,753 Speaker 1: you're going to be sitting with them and chatting to them. 106 00:04:57,953 --> 00:04:59,354 Speaker 1: You're not you're just going to get up and go 107 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:01,313 Speaker 1: introduce yourself to a random person. 108 00:05:01,393 --> 00:05:02,594 Speaker 2: Like that's not how life work. 109 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:03,354 Speaker 1: Great, And I think if. 110 00:05:03,313 --> 00:05:05,034 Speaker 2: You're sitting down and you meet someone you haven't met, 111 00:05:05,073 --> 00:05:06,713 Speaker 2: you get to know and of course you chat, but 112 00:05:07,113 --> 00:05:08,434 Speaker 2: the long answers. 113 00:05:08,193 --> 00:05:10,753 Speaker 1: Go over to your friends you already know to sit 114 00:05:10,834 --> 00:05:11,234 Speaker 1: down with. 115 00:05:11,633 --> 00:05:13,594 Speaker 2: So I was intimidating and she was nuts, but now 116 00:05:13,633 --> 00:05:14,993 Speaker 2: we're pretty much best friends. 117 00:05:15,433 --> 00:05:17,753 Speaker 1: If you could describe yourself in three words, what would 118 00:05:17,794 --> 00:05:18,033 Speaker 1: they be? 119 00:05:18,513 --> 00:05:22,394 Speaker 2: Complex, thoughtful, tenacious? 120 00:05:22,674 --> 00:05:24,794 Speaker 1: Oh good words? 121 00:05:24,993 --> 00:05:28,633 Speaker 2: What are your words? Weird? None? 122 00:05:28,714 --> 00:05:32,433 Speaker 1: When I met my complex, messy and fine? 123 00:05:32,674 --> 00:05:34,553 Speaker 2: That is very you. But if you are messy, then 124 00:05:34,553 --> 00:05:37,553 Speaker 2: I'm leonel MESSI I'm messier than you. But yes, you're 125 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:40,673 Speaker 2: right in some ways. Yes, I liked that. That was hard. 126 00:05:40,953 --> 00:05:43,193 Speaker 2: Now it's got a two parter. 127 00:05:43,953 --> 00:05:47,113 Speaker 1: If we had to describe the other person in three words, 128 00:05:47,274 --> 00:05:49,153 Speaker 1: what would there be? And we can't use the same ones? 129 00:05:49,234 --> 00:05:52,674 Speaker 2: Okay, for you? Infectious not like a disease, but like 130 00:05:52,714 --> 00:05:56,274 Speaker 2: a you bring out the light and you are just great. 131 00:05:56,474 --> 00:05:59,873 Speaker 2: I really liked this episode. Word that's like not persistent, 132 00:05:59,873 --> 00:06:02,793 Speaker 2: but like you have like a strong resolve to keep going, 133 00:06:02,953 --> 00:06:06,714 Speaker 2: let me think of it. And joyful, joyful all the 134 00:06:06,753 --> 00:06:08,234 Speaker 2: other world. What I'm trying to think of is like, 135 00:06:08,794 --> 00:06:11,153 Speaker 2: come on, ly, I need to It'll come to you, prothosaurus, Oh, 136 00:06:11,193 --> 00:06:13,993 Speaker 2: it'll come to me. What are my words? Silly? Yes, 137 00:06:14,073 --> 00:06:16,594 Speaker 2: I'm so silly. Only a bit on here, but way silly, 138 00:06:16,873 --> 00:06:18,394 Speaker 2: so silly in real life. 139 00:06:18,234 --> 00:06:21,753 Speaker 1: This is a two worder but hard working, generous. 140 00:06:22,313 --> 00:06:25,034 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I think I'm generous too, but that's 141 00:06:25,073 --> 00:06:27,754 Speaker 2: easy when you get oh no, that dressy wearing I 142 00:06:27,794 --> 00:06:30,314 Speaker 2: paid for engave to you. You're no, you're generous, not 143 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:35,553 Speaker 2: just with things. You're generous with advice, You're generous with time. 144 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:38,753 Speaker 2: You put a lot of people before yourself. Now I'm 145 00:06:38,753 --> 00:06:41,553 Speaker 2: gonna cry, so I think of the word I'll come back. 146 00:06:41,594 --> 00:06:43,833 Speaker 2: But it's okay, steadfast. Maybe I don't know. 147 00:06:44,674 --> 00:06:47,513 Speaker 1: What's something people assume about you that's totally wrong. 148 00:06:48,034 --> 00:06:52,834 Speaker 2: Oh heaps so much that you're not silly. Yeah, so 149 00:06:52,873 --> 00:06:55,073 Speaker 2: it's funny. I don't know why Mia hired me, because 150 00:06:55,113 --> 00:06:56,713 Speaker 2: then when I'd had been here for a little bit, 151 00:06:56,794 --> 00:06:59,874 Speaker 2: she goes, oh my gosh, you're not like rude or 152 00:06:59,953 --> 00:07:02,954 Speaker 2: up yourself, You're just broken. And I was like, I 153 00:07:02,993 --> 00:07:05,113 Speaker 2: am whatever she meant by that, She meant it nice 154 00:07:05,154 --> 00:07:07,274 Speaker 2: as a compliment. Yes, And a lot of people like yes, 155 00:07:07,433 --> 00:07:09,233 Speaker 2: like you at those events or people on social media 156 00:07:09,313 --> 00:07:12,874 Speaker 2: will assume that I am terrifying, terrifying but all about 157 00:07:12,874 --> 00:07:15,554 Speaker 2: the superficial and the owning things, because I love shopping. 158 00:07:15,594 --> 00:07:19,874 Speaker 2: But to be honest. I guess for me, nothing else 159 00:07:19,953 --> 00:07:23,474 Speaker 2: matters besides like my people, and that's mostly my girlfriends 160 00:07:23,474 --> 00:07:25,154 Speaker 2: and my mom and to be honest, the women in 161 00:07:25,154 --> 00:07:27,314 Speaker 2: my life, whether they're blood or besties. 162 00:07:27,994 --> 00:07:30,674 Speaker 1: So that was my fourth word that popped into my brain. 163 00:07:30,754 --> 00:07:33,474 Speaker 2: Few loyal. Yeah, I try. Well, I think that's all 164 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:34,874 Speaker 2: you have at the end of the day, you know, 165 00:07:35,034 --> 00:07:37,314 Speaker 2: like that's why we're here, is friendship. So a lot 166 00:07:37,314 --> 00:07:40,794 Speaker 2: of people assume that I am very two dimensional, very materialistic, 167 00:07:40,834 --> 00:07:43,754 Speaker 2: and very up myself. But I believe, what can we 168 00:07:43,794 --> 00:07:46,314 Speaker 2: talk myself? She's mean to herself. To be fair, you're 169 00:07:46,434 --> 00:07:49,874 Speaker 2: so mean. I know, I scold her, you do. I 170 00:07:49,874 --> 00:07:51,994 Speaker 2: think I'm probably the opposite. But then there's a bit 171 00:07:52,034 --> 00:07:54,914 Speaker 2: of that. So yeah, and I'm very very silly and 172 00:07:54,914 --> 00:07:57,354 Speaker 2: inappropriate and fun like I'm a child. When I'm not, 173 00:07:57,554 --> 00:07:59,434 Speaker 2: she's on the work sometimes she. 174 00:07:59,434 --> 00:08:02,314 Speaker 1: Makes me feel like the mature you are. I'll be like, 175 00:08:02,354 --> 00:08:06,594 Speaker 1: can you stop. I think everyone thinks, if you don't 176 00:08:06,594 --> 00:08:09,194 Speaker 1: know me ever, on things, that I'm extroverted. Yeah, they 177 00:08:09,194 --> 00:08:12,114 Speaker 1: think I'm a true extrovert in between one, well, I'm 178 00:08:12,154 --> 00:08:16,473 Speaker 1: an extroverted introvert, so I can do that. 179 00:08:16,514 --> 00:08:19,393 Speaker 2: It's like amphibian but not well. And it's also masking, 180 00:08:19,474 --> 00:08:20,593 Speaker 2: so I can mask that. 181 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:24,914 Speaker 1: I'm like so out there and so friendly and happy 182 00:08:24,953 --> 00:08:27,833 Speaker 1: and not shy, but at my core, I am still 183 00:08:27,953 --> 00:08:32,353 Speaker 1: so shy. And the only way that I can decompress 184 00:08:32,514 --> 00:08:34,714 Speaker 1: is to be totally alone, Like I can't even be 185 00:08:34,754 --> 00:08:35,874 Speaker 1: around my husband or son. 186 00:08:36,554 --> 00:08:38,754 Speaker 2: I've seen that part of you, and I feel quite honored, 187 00:08:38,794 --> 00:08:40,674 Speaker 2: like we've done some stuff together on content, and I 188 00:08:40,674 --> 00:08:44,194 Speaker 2: can just see when you go, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, completely, 189 00:08:44,234 --> 00:08:46,594 Speaker 2: And I respect that I'm It's just it shuts down. 190 00:08:46,794 --> 00:08:47,354 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. 191 00:08:47,514 --> 00:08:49,754 Speaker 1: It's it's people that I'm very close to that will 192 00:08:49,754 --> 00:08:51,994 Speaker 1: see that side to me where and it's flattering to 193 00:08:52,034 --> 00:08:55,954 Speaker 1: see it, I know, and I don't talk. It's like 194 00:08:56,034 --> 00:08:58,674 Speaker 1: funny girlfriends that go on holidays with me. The first 195 00:08:58,714 --> 00:09:01,394 Speaker 1: time that you go on holidays with me, people are like, oh, 196 00:09:01,514 --> 00:09:04,354 Speaker 1: and my girlfriend hadn't heard someone say to her what's 197 00:09:04,394 --> 00:09:06,874 Speaker 1: wrong with Kelly? And Hannah was like, oh. 198 00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:08,274 Speaker 2: That's fine. 199 00:09:09,074 --> 00:09:12,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just offered the true literally, Oh, she's offered 200 00:09:12,594 --> 00:09:13,754 Speaker 1: the moment she'd turned back on later. 201 00:09:13,794 --> 00:09:15,314 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. 202 00:09:16,354 --> 00:09:19,314 Speaker 1: What part of your job brings you the most Joy. 203 00:09:19,674 --> 00:09:21,874 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm being so cheesy. This was meant 204 00:09:21,914 --> 00:09:22,834 Speaker 2: to be fun the women. 205 00:09:23,594 --> 00:09:26,914 Speaker 1: Because I'm like the people, so boring and cheesy. Look, 206 00:09:26,954 --> 00:09:29,434 Speaker 1: I love the beauty products, but if I stopped doing 207 00:09:29,474 --> 00:09:32,074 Speaker 1: this job, I'll go to Mecro price line and buy 208 00:09:32,074 --> 00:09:37,074 Speaker 1: what I need. You can't really cultivate the female friendships 209 00:09:37,194 --> 00:09:39,194 Speaker 1: or the learning like I do this job. Then I 210 00:09:39,194 --> 00:09:41,074 Speaker 1: have a business with my best friend and business partner. 211 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,034 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of things I do and with 212 00:09:43,114 --> 00:09:46,074 Speaker 1: everyone now that I kind of can pick and choose. 213 00:09:46,074 --> 00:09:48,434 Speaker 1: And I'm of an age I won't work with dickheads 214 00:09:48,594 --> 00:09:51,314 Speaker 1: or rude women, or women that are just trying to 215 00:09:51,354 --> 00:09:54,074 Speaker 1: climb and climb over you to climb and so like 216 00:09:54,154 --> 00:09:56,994 Speaker 1: you the producers. I've been at Mama Mea, Oh my gosh, 217 00:09:56,994 --> 00:09:58,634 Speaker 1: I've been at Mamma Mia eight years and a couple 218 00:09:58,674 --> 00:10:02,714 Speaker 1: of weeks Dan and Cosmo before huff Post. What I 219 00:10:02,754 --> 00:10:07,074 Speaker 1: take from everything is amazingly clever women, fun, women understand 220 00:10:07,154 --> 00:10:09,554 Speaker 1: and in kind, dynamic like and a couple of women. 221 00:10:09,674 --> 00:10:12,594 Speaker 1: But the people you can't replace that when you everything 222 00:10:12,594 --> 00:10:15,314 Speaker 1: else is kind of replaceable. Yeah, I agreed with being 223 00:10:15,314 --> 00:10:17,914 Speaker 1: so cheesy. I know we'll get on to some hopefully 224 00:10:18,154 --> 00:10:21,354 Speaker 1: lighter and we like free products we do, yeah, and 225 00:10:21,514 --> 00:10:25,114 Speaker 1: getting to do fun things. But people that I meet 226 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:28,514 Speaker 1: that I would never be blessed enough to meet otherwise, 227 00:10:28,554 --> 00:10:31,114 Speaker 1: and also people that listen then meeting them in real life. 228 00:10:31,754 --> 00:10:34,794 Speaker 2: Yes, so will you be lovely? Yesterday I was having 229 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:36,554 Speaker 2: the world's worst day. I was at the ATM and 230 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:38,594 Speaker 2: I was also crying because did you know the ATMs 231 00:10:38,594 --> 00:10:41,274 Speaker 2: asked for your phone number? Now I know. Anyway, this 232 00:10:41,354 --> 00:10:43,154 Speaker 2: woman just came up and went slowly past me. She says, 233 00:10:43,154 --> 00:10:44,754 Speaker 2: I love your content. And I just turned and I 234 00:10:44,794 --> 00:10:48,474 Speaker 2: was crying, and she goes, okay, dear Laura, thank you. 235 00:10:48,514 --> 00:10:50,154 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I go the ATMs asked for my 236 00:10:50,194 --> 00:10:52,274 Speaker 2: phone numbers? That normal? Im I getting scam? She says, no, no, 237 00:10:52,314 --> 00:10:54,434 Speaker 2: that's because something something in And I was like, thank you, okay, 238 00:10:54,434 --> 00:10:56,354 Speaker 2: thanks for the compliment, and like I made my day. 239 00:10:56,794 --> 00:10:57,794 Speaker 2: But she saw the real mat. 240 00:10:58,034 --> 00:11:00,994 Speaker 1: Amelia Lester told me in the bathroom that she's a 241 00:11:01,074 --> 00:11:04,953 Speaker 1: huge fan, and I went, so you don't understand. I sit. 242 00:11:05,474 --> 00:11:07,754 Speaker 2: Amelia Leslie is on a bunch of pods and she's 243 00:11:07,754 --> 00:11:09,914 Speaker 2: the smart so smart. She's the smartest woman on the 244 00:11:09,954 --> 00:11:12,514 Speaker 2: pinet I went to university with Mark Zuckerberg, like in 245 00:11:12,594 --> 00:11:16,234 Speaker 2: he can't The fact that she was on that is 246 00:11:16,794 --> 00:11:18,994 Speaker 2: because she's a girl's girl. She loves beauty. She literally 247 00:11:19,114 --> 00:11:23,194 Speaker 2: was just like moments like that. The people, not the celebrities, 248 00:11:23,194 --> 00:11:24,074 Speaker 2: the people people. 249 00:11:24,994 --> 00:11:28,754 Speaker 1: What's something that you're really ashamed or embarrassed by? 250 00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:33,354 Speaker 2: Oh okay, we're getting out of the earnestness, the corniness. 251 00:11:34,634 --> 00:11:36,354 Speaker 1: Mine's so easy. It's the first thing that popped in 252 00:11:36,394 --> 00:11:41,514 Speaker 1: to Yeah, I'm so embarrassed in shamed of how many 253 00:11:41,554 --> 00:11:44,954 Speaker 1: hours per week slash day that I play games on 254 00:11:44,994 --> 00:11:45,394 Speaker 1: my phone. 255 00:11:45,594 --> 00:11:47,754 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a good one. I guess it's shame, 256 00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:50,514 Speaker 2: and I guess a bit of it's shame internally, and 257 00:11:50,514 --> 00:11:52,874 Speaker 2: it's embarrassment externally when people come over, I know, are 258 00:11:52,874 --> 00:11:56,394 Speaker 2: you going to guess it? What? How much shit you buy? Well, no, 259 00:11:56,434 --> 00:11:58,754 Speaker 2: it's not the stuff I buy. I've been so much better, 260 00:11:58,794 --> 00:12:00,754 Speaker 2: like God, because of the therapy and a medication. I'm 261 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:04,234 Speaker 2: not girl. It's that as hard as I try to 262 00:12:04,394 --> 00:12:07,034 Speaker 2: keep things tidy, and I tidy, I. 263 00:12:07,314 --> 00:12:09,554 Speaker 1: Just imagine how dangerous of a game that would be 264 00:12:09,594 --> 00:12:10,954 Speaker 1: if you were like, oh, can you guess? 265 00:12:10,994 --> 00:12:16,514 Speaker 2: And I was like, blah, blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah, 266 00:12:16,594 --> 00:12:18,994 Speaker 2: I just can't keep things tidy. And this was not 267 00:12:19,114 --> 00:12:21,154 Speaker 2: me before. I think it's Perry. I think it's being 268 00:12:21,194 --> 00:12:23,594 Speaker 2: a mum. I think it's sort of working from home. 269 00:12:23,994 --> 00:12:26,994 Speaker 2: I spend way too much time tidying my stuff. Like 270 00:12:27,034 --> 00:12:29,474 Speaker 2: my friends just say in WhatsApp group, it's like, what's up, 271 00:12:29,594 --> 00:12:31,554 Speaker 2: what's everyone doing today? When they I don't reply, they say, 272 00:12:31,554 --> 00:12:33,634 Speaker 2: all LEAs just moving things into piles. I just moved 273 00:12:33,674 --> 00:12:36,074 Speaker 2: things into piles, Like, yeah, I hate that. I can't 274 00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:36,794 Speaker 2: get on top of it. 275 00:12:36,874 --> 00:12:38,714 Speaker 1: I don't think you ever will go because I'm exactly 276 00:12:38,714 --> 00:12:41,874 Speaker 1: going to say, Adhd, I think it's a TOHD. I 277 00:12:41,914 --> 00:12:46,714 Speaker 1: think becoming a mum with ADHD it is when shit 278 00:12:46,834 --> 00:12:48,794 Speaker 1: hits the fan and you realize a. 279 00:12:48,794 --> 00:12:50,754 Speaker 2: Lot a couple of times from school and the messes everywhere. 280 00:12:50,794 --> 00:12:52,514 Speaker 2: He'll play with it, so even if it's doing his 281 00:12:52,594 --> 00:12:54,354 Speaker 2: toys and my stuff, So then I shove it somewhere 282 00:12:54,554 --> 00:12:55,874 Speaker 2: next day, get it out, and then I go, actually, 283 00:12:55,954 --> 00:12:58,634 Speaker 2: let's put these categories together. All I do. I mean, 284 00:12:58,674 --> 00:13:01,074 Speaker 2: I just clean, but like I just want a more 285 00:13:01,154 --> 00:13:02,994 Speaker 2: organized physical life. 286 00:13:03,154 --> 00:13:05,114 Speaker 1: I get it, but I don't think you're going to 287 00:13:05,154 --> 00:13:07,434 Speaker 1: get there. And I, oh my god, oh this has 288 00:13:07,474 --> 00:13:11,194 Speaker 1: turned into a therapy. I just have turned into doing 289 00:13:11,234 --> 00:13:13,794 Speaker 1: something that I enjoy so every now. 290 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:15,834 Speaker 2: And okay, that's the problem because the other day I 291 00:13:15,874 --> 00:13:17,434 Speaker 2: was like, right, I'm sorting out my nail stuff on 292 00:13:17,434 --> 00:13:18,914 Speaker 2: my lash of stuff and I had so much fun 293 00:13:18,954 --> 00:13:21,074 Speaker 2: playing with three. So you were just playing then, So 294 00:13:21,194 --> 00:13:23,394 Speaker 2: just se now it's still a mush Man, yeah, but 295 00:13:23,634 --> 00:13:27,074 Speaker 2: a podcast on or an audiobook or something, and then 296 00:13:27,194 --> 00:13:29,514 Speaker 2: just enjoy it and just it's part of you. 297 00:13:29,754 --> 00:13:34,274 Speaker 1: Okay, what has been your hardest professional challenge. 298 00:13:33,914 --> 00:13:36,034 Speaker 2: To come to mind? But one's not really a challenge. 299 00:13:36,034 --> 00:13:38,834 Speaker 2: It was just a circumstance. When I was head of 300 00:13:38,834 --> 00:13:41,754 Speaker 2: Life Style huff Post Australia. After two years they closed 301 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:44,514 Speaker 2: the mast head so we were all made redundant. I 302 00:13:44,554 --> 00:13:46,474 Speaker 2: had a team under me and I had no idea 303 00:13:46,514 --> 00:13:48,314 Speaker 2: what was going on. It was so poorly handled, but 304 00:13:48,354 --> 00:13:49,994 Speaker 2: it was there was like two weeks there that we 305 00:13:50,434 --> 00:13:53,234 Speaker 2: assumed we were all losing our jobs and then I 306 00:13:53,274 --> 00:13:54,554 Speaker 2: didn't know, and that my team's coming to me and 307 00:13:54,554 --> 00:13:57,354 Speaker 2: going what's going on. It was right before Christmas, people 308 00:13:57,474 --> 00:14:00,314 Speaker 2: like had kids and you know, money like all of that, 309 00:14:00,434 --> 00:14:02,594 Speaker 2: and it was just awful. But that wasn't my fault. 310 00:14:02,674 --> 00:14:04,994 Speaker 2: The other one is being a manager. I hate it. 311 00:14:05,034 --> 00:14:06,474 Speaker 2: When I came to Mamamera, I had a lot of 312 00:14:06,474 --> 00:14:08,914 Speaker 2: direct report and I'm not good at it. And I 313 00:14:08,914 --> 00:14:11,314 Speaker 2: think as a creative person, it's a waste sometimes of 314 00:14:11,354 --> 00:14:13,674 Speaker 2: your skills that you're hired for because it's a different 315 00:14:13,754 --> 00:14:15,874 Speaker 2: kind of thing. So after I went on mat Leve, 316 00:14:15,914 --> 00:14:17,154 Speaker 2: I came back and I said, I don't want to 317 00:14:17,154 --> 00:14:17,754 Speaker 2: manage anyone. 318 00:14:17,874 --> 00:14:19,354 Speaker 1: I'm not good at it. It's not good for them, 319 00:14:19,394 --> 00:14:20,194 Speaker 1: it's not good for me. 320 00:14:21,394 --> 00:14:24,034 Speaker 2: And so that was more of a realization that just 321 00:14:24,514 --> 00:14:27,274 Speaker 2: people want to climb clime climb ladders of work and 322 00:14:27,354 --> 00:14:29,994 Speaker 2: that usually you know, it's getting a team and having 323 00:14:30,034 --> 00:14:32,074 Speaker 2: direct reports. And I was just like, no, I don't 324 00:14:32,074 --> 00:14:34,234 Speaker 2: want to I suck at it. That self awareness so 325 00:14:34,394 --> 00:14:37,754 Speaker 2: is so important and more bad managers need to realize. 326 00:14:37,874 --> 00:14:39,754 Speaker 2: I was a bad manager. I hated it. And then 327 00:14:39,794 --> 00:14:42,154 Speaker 2: people would come to me for like feedback or like me, 328 00:14:42,554 --> 00:14:44,754 Speaker 2: I don't know, just go work. Yeah, Like I'll tell 329 00:14:44,794 --> 00:14:46,794 Speaker 2: you if it's bad, Okay, but no, you've got to 330 00:14:46,834 --> 00:14:49,154 Speaker 2: be more involved than that. What's yours? 331 00:14:49,194 --> 00:14:54,234 Speaker 1: Mine also is about redundancy. It's at the very oh 332 00:14:54,274 --> 00:14:56,314 Speaker 1: my goodness. I quit my full time job at the 333 00:14:56,434 --> 00:15:00,074 Speaker 1: start of twenty twenty, and then I obviously had like 334 00:15:00,114 --> 00:15:03,394 Speaker 1: a month until I was leaving, and in the last 335 00:15:03,554 --> 00:15:08,714 Speaker 1: week COVID hit and we were going into lockdown. Then 336 00:15:08,834 --> 00:15:09,474 Speaker 1: I was working for. 337 00:15:11,074 --> 00:15:13,034 Speaker 2: YEP, because you sort of done with that income working. 338 00:15:13,234 --> 00:15:16,354 Speaker 1: I was shitting myself. I thought, you have made the 339 00:15:16,394 --> 00:15:20,994 Speaker 1: biggest mistake of your career because everything's shutting down. 340 00:15:20,874 --> 00:15:22,594 Speaker 2: And everyone else is at home but making money and 341 00:15:22,594 --> 00:15:24,194 Speaker 2: you're at home not money money. 342 00:15:24,234 --> 00:15:27,874 Speaker 1: And then one of my final acts, and no one 343 00:15:27,914 --> 00:15:31,394 Speaker 1: else's fault, but I had to make all my reports 344 00:15:31,434 --> 00:15:33,834 Speaker 1: had become dear friends over the years. I had to 345 00:15:33,834 --> 00:15:38,514 Speaker 1: make a lot of them redundant because of COVID and 346 00:15:38,594 --> 00:15:41,034 Speaker 1: because of what was happening. I didn't realize that in 347 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,954 Speaker 1: that last week, so while you were facing what you 348 00:15:43,954 --> 00:15:45,914 Speaker 1: were about to go exactly, and then I had to 349 00:15:46,314 --> 00:15:50,234 Speaker 1: just hearing the voices vulnerable on the phone while I 350 00:15:50,274 --> 00:15:52,314 Speaker 1: had to also do it on the phone because we 351 00:15:52,314 --> 00:15:53,154 Speaker 1: were all at home. 352 00:15:53,514 --> 00:15:56,154 Speaker 2: I know, but I'm so oh, but I would prefer that. 353 00:15:56,234 --> 00:15:59,194 Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. It was honestly just the worst. But 354 00:15:59,914 --> 00:16:02,874 Speaker 1: I do believe like good things happen to good people, 355 00:16:02,994 --> 00:16:07,154 Speaker 1: and every single person that I had to make redundant 356 00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:10,034 Speaker 1: is now killing it. They're earning more money than me. 357 00:16:10,554 --> 00:16:13,794 Speaker 1: They're in killing it, like they are just absolutely killing it. 358 00:16:15,354 --> 00:16:17,234 Speaker 2: No, but you know no, no, but like you came 359 00:16:17,234 --> 00:16:17,514 Speaker 2: out good. 360 00:16:17,674 --> 00:16:21,034 Speaker 1: It means that I did a good job and hello, 361 00:16:21,154 --> 00:16:24,194 Speaker 1: you're here for me. I'm fine as well. So yeah, 362 00:16:24,234 --> 00:16:27,634 Speaker 1: everything was everything turned out just Millhouse. If you weren't 363 00:16:27,634 --> 00:16:29,954 Speaker 1: working in the beauty media industry, what would you be doing? 364 00:16:29,994 --> 00:16:32,874 Speaker 2: Okay, this is hard. I need to know income. I'm 365 00:16:32,874 --> 00:16:34,474 Speaker 2: not saying I earn heaps of money, but can I 366 00:16:34,514 --> 00:16:37,434 Speaker 2: have the same income? I so I have the income 367 00:16:37,434 --> 00:16:37,834 Speaker 2: off the job. 368 00:16:37,874 --> 00:16:41,154 Speaker 1: I choose yes. Oh why what would you say for 369 00:16:41,354 --> 00:16:44,594 Speaker 1: when I'd be a rockstar? Because you've got it. It 370 00:16:45,194 --> 00:16:46,754 Speaker 1: has to be realistic, Like what did you want to 371 00:16:46,754 --> 00:16:47,434 Speaker 1: do when you were little? 372 00:16:47,714 --> 00:16:49,234 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a marine biologist. But then my 373 00:16:49,234 --> 00:16:51,714 Speaker 2: auntie bround your reconofics juice bumps. That made us think. 374 00:16:51,754 --> 00:16:52,874 Speaker 2: But I don't know what that is. But I just 375 00:16:52,914 --> 00:16:55,634 Speaker 2: love dolphins. My dream, even though I've worked in a 376 00:16:55,674 --> 00:16:58,074 Speaker 2: hospitality and hate it, is to have a cafe. Oh, 377 00:16:58,154 --> 00:17:00,474 Speaker 2: a cafe, a little hole in the wall coffee cafe. 378 00:17:00,674 --> 00:17:03,434 Speaker 2: Coffee cafe and it's called full Cream off GoF and 379 00:17:03,434 --> 00:17:06,873 Speaker 2: it just does proper Italian coffee, no soiler, even though 380 00:17:06,914 --> 00:17:09,714 Speaker 2: I soy syrup blah blah bah. And then little Piscottis 381 00:17:09,714 --> 00:17:11,554 Speaker 2: and stuff. And then there's one of those book library 382 00:17:11,634 --> 00:17:13,474 Speaker 2: things that you bowk oh, my god, that's so cute. 383 00:17:13,514 --> 00:17:14,634 Speaker 1: Someone's going to steal that. 384 00:17:14,634 --> 00:17:17,313 Speaker 2: That's fine because I hate hospitality. Okay, fair enough, but 385 00:17:17,354 --> 00:17:19,994 Speaker 2: I like people like I would really, that's true, and 386 00:17:20,474 --> 00:17:22,554 Speaker 2: people are like, Okay, only my friends can come to 387 00:17:22,674 --> 00:17:23,954 Speaker 2: my cafe, what about you? 388 00:17:24,034 --> 00:17:27,554 Speaker 1: I don't really know, Like I'm very nosy. So well, 389 00:17:27,634 --> 00:17:28,914 Speaker 1: the thing is is that a lot of the jobs 390 00:17:28,914 --> 00:17:30,994 Speaker 1: at first pop into my head are things that I 391 00:17:31,074 --> 00:17:33,154 Speaker 1: kind of already do. All they're part of the beauty mediums, 392 00:17:33,354 --> 00:17:36,514 Speaker 1: things like spy. Well, the thing is is that I'm 393 00:17:36,634 --> 00:17:39,634 Speaker 1: very nosy, so I would like to be like a 394 00:17:39,634 --> 00:17:43,154 Speaker 1: police officer or a nurse or doctor in the emergency room. 395 00:17:43,394 --> 00:17:46,434 Speaker 2: But I also don't like investigator. You can't even handle 396 00:17:46,514 --> 00:17:48,754 Speaker 2: needles exactly. That's why I couldn't do it to. 397 00:17:48,754 --> 00:17:53,074 Speaker 1: Your private investigator spy ask the questions, maybe I am 398 00:17:53,394 --> 00:17:55,754 Speaker 1: if you could Freaky Friday for a day and sweat bodies. 399 00:17:55,754 --> 00:17:58,794 Speaker 1: What treatment, slash, makeup, look or trend would you try 400 00:17:58,874 --> 00:18:00,594 Speaker 1: for the other that you wouldn't do on yourself. 401 00:18:00,634 --> 00:18:03,114 Speaker 2: You and me are fun. So you wake up and 402 00:18:03,114 --> 00:18:03,793 Speaker 2: you're in me. 403 00:18:04,114 --> 00:18:07,634 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm Kelly and I'm playing with you boobies of sleep. 404 00:18:08,314 --> 00:18:08,994 Speaker 2: You're perfect. 405 00:18:09,034 --> 00:18:09,954 Speaker 1: Now you can do it. 406 00:18:10,034 --> 00:18:12,314 Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want to do. Yeah, I'd 407 00:18:12,354 --> 00:18:14,194 Speaker 2: put a crew neck T shirt on you because I've 408 00:18:14,234 --> 00:18:15,554 Speaker 2: never seen you in a crew neck T shirt. 409 00:18:15,794 --> 00:18:16,954 Speaker 1: I'd look like a linebacker. 410 00:18:16,994 --> 00:18:19,674 Speaker 2: That's why. No, you wouldn't excuse me, I'm you. I 411 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:26,194 Speaker 2: would naturally let my beautiful curls like I fix them. 412 00:18:26,234 --> 00:18:28,793 Speaker 2: But I do that nothing else. If you ears pissed, 413 00:18:29,314 --> 00:18:31,274 Speaker 2: I put some ear rings on. This is boring. 414 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,234 Speaker 1: I've got like five holes in my ears. 415 00:18:33,314 --> 00:18:34,994 Speaker 2: I know. I just don't really wear earrings set often. 416 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,234 Speaker 2: I have three, but the second one's by accident because 417 00:18:37,234 --> 00:18:38,594 Speaker 2: once I was so cranky, I was trying to put 418 00:18:38,594 --> 00:18:40,313 Speaker 2: my earing out without a mirror and I pierced my 419 00:18:40,354 --> 00:18:42,034 Speaker 2: ear That was like three years ago. 420 00:18:42,114 --> 00:18:44,394 Speaker 1: Do you lord, I'm actually I just I read that question. 421 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:46,474 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm the same, and also we're both 422 00:18:46,514 --> 00:18:48,394 Speaker 1: pretty ballsy with things that we try you know what. 423 00:18:48,434 --> 00:18:50,394 Speaker 2: I want to know what you'd put colored eyeshd on me? 424 00:18:50,754 --> 00:18:52,794 Speaker 1: No, because I don't actually think it would suit you. 425 00:18:53,234 --> 00:18:56,313 Speaker 1: That's the thing you do. Everything that you do is 426 00:18:56,394 --> 00:18:58,674 Speaker 1: really what works for you, and I'm the same. I 427 00:18:58,714 --> 00:19:00,514 Speaker 1: guess you know what I would do, though, I get 428 00:19:00,554 --> 00:19:02,033 Speaker 1: my nipple pissed and my clip. 429 00:19:02,234 --> 00:19:04,754 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it tancs a lot. I don't want 430 00:19:04,794 --> 00:19:06,033 Speaker 2: to do it, but I want to know what it 431 00:19:06,074 --> 00:19:09,033 Speaker 2: feels like. If you got any tattoos, No, I'd get it. 432 00:19:09,074 --> 00:19:10,794 Speaker 2: I'd get you a tattoo. I've got six. 433 00:19:11,034 --> 00:19:11,954 Speaker 1: Oh what would you do though? 434 00:19:11,994 --> 00:19:13,754 Speaker 2: You'd get something? Get a dick on your head? Yeah, 435 00:19:13,794 --> 00:19:16,994 Speaker 2: you would? You get a dick on my head? I lovely? 436 00:19:17,834 --> 00:19:21,474 Speaker 2: Oh my no, no rugrets. Oh that's a fun one. Now. 437 00:19:22,114 --> 00:19:26,074 Speaker 1: When was the last time you felt jealous? Jealous is 438 00:19:26,114 --> 00:19:29,074 Speaker 1: like not a very talked about feeling. I don't feel 439 00:19:29,154 --> 00:19:33,833 Speaker 1: jealousy ever. I did maybe in my twenties. No, ebba, 440 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:38,474 Speaker 1: We'll give me an example, like someone does something really cool, 441 00:19:38,514 --> 00:19:39,394 Speaker 1: you feel jealous. 442 00:19:39,674 --> 00:19:41,034 Speaker 2: No, I don't. It's not a. 443 00:19:40,994 --> 00:19:43,314 Speaker 1: Bad I think the problem is that people think it's 444 00:19:43,314 --> 00:19:43,834 Speaker 1: a bad. 445 00:19:43,754 --> 00:19:45,754 Speaker 2: You know what, My husband taught me this because when 446 00:19:45,794 --> 00:19:48,074 Speaker 2: I met him like we would go I have, like 447 00:19:48,194 --> 00:19:50,234 Speaker 2: most of our my friends that are his friends now 448 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:52,634 Speaker 2: because he's from Melbourne, are very wealthy, you know, have 449 00:19:52,674 --> 00:19:53,994 Speaker 2: a lot more money than us. So we would go 450 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:56,234 Speaker 2: on their big boat for the day and then I'd 451 00:19:56,234 --> 00:19:57,714 Speaker 2: come home and go, oh, that was so amazing. Gosh, 452 00:19:57,714 --> 00:20:00,234 Speaker 2: I wish we had a boat, and he is like, wow, 453 00:20:00,274 --> 00:20:01,594 Speaker 2: we had the best day. We got to go on 454 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:03,954 Speaker 2: their boat. Our friends are so fun. That was so cool, 455 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:06,074 Speaker 2: Like we still have access to the boat, like he 456 00:20:06,154 --> 00:20:08,634 Speaker 2: really did, I guess. And he's very I call him 457 00:20:08,634 --> 00:20:11,034 Speaker 2: my laborador. He's very positive like that. I mean, it's 458 00:20:11,034 --> 00:20:15,114 Speaker 2: not perfect, but I just don't I don't have jealousy. See, 459 00:20:15,194 --> 00:20:17,474 Speaker 2: I'm I guess the one thing sorry, not a person. 460 00:20:17,514 --> 00:20:20,114 Speaker 2: I would like to have a secondary like a holiday house, 461 00:20:20,154 --> 00:20:22,394 Speaker 2: like a little apartment somewhere near a beach. 462 00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:24,553 Speaker 1: Like it's something you want though, that's not something you're 463 00:20:24,674 --> 00:20:28,154 Speaker 1: I'm jealous of. I don't do jealousy, Okay, I get jealous. 464 00:20:28,194 --> 00:20:30,594 Speaker 1: What the funny thing is is that it's never really 465 00:20:30,594 --> 00:20:32,794 Speaker 1: about things. Because I'm kind of like rich, I would 466 00:20:32,834 --> 00:20:34,874 Speaker 1: get back from the bottom. My goal in life is 467 00:20:34,914 --> 00:20:36,594 Speaker 1: just to have friends with boats. I don't want to boat. 468 00:20:36,634 --> 00:20:37,634 Speaker 1: That's so much maintenance. 469 00:20:37,634 --> 00:20:38,794 Speaker 2: I mean that's just one example. 470 00:20:38,914 --> 00:20:42,674 Speaker 1: Two times last year, well I think jealous last year 471 00:20:42,674 --> 00:20:46,513 Speaker 1: We're gonna die popped into my head. So one of 472 00:20:46,554 --> 00:20:49,074 Speaker 1: the times was you went to Paris. 473 00:20:49,434 --> 00:20:52,354 Speaker 2: And you deserve a bloody press trip. Goddamn it. 474 00:20:52,674 --> 00:20:55,034 Speaker 1: I've never been to Paris, I've never been to France. 475 00:20:55,034 --> 00:20:57,554 Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, when there's specific places, 476 00:20:58,234 --> 00:21:01,394 Speaker 1: I think that it's because Luke and I were supposed 477 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,474 Speaker 1: to go to France and Italy. NOI that we haven't 478 00:21:03,514 --> 00:21:05,834 Speaker 1: been to either of those places for our honeymoon, and 479 00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:07,994 Speaker 1: then COVID hit. We still have been on that honeymoon. 480 00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:11,234 Speaker 2: But also, from my opinion, you're an incredible beauty journalist. 481 00:21:11,274 --> 00:21:13,394 Speaker 2: You're the co host of the Biggest Pease. I'm dying 482 00:21:13,434 --> 00:21:15,394 Speaker 2: to go on a press trip. It blows my mind 483 00:21:15,394 --> 00:21:15,834 Speaker 2: that you haven't. 484 00:21:15,954 --> 00:21:20,554 Speaker 1: Someone please, I will, I will content, I will literally 485 00:21:20,794 --> 00:21:23,634 Speaker 1: do a cartwheel for you every second. So I was 486 00:21:23,714 --> 00:21:27,234 Speaker 1: so jealous of you and Francois, and then I didn't 487 00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:29,194 Speaker 1: go with front You mean this friend, No, just I'm 488 00:21:29,274 --> 00:21:31,513 Speaker 1: talking me of you, not going or of me. 489 00:21:32,434 --> 00:21:34,553 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not that's the thing. It's not a 490 00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:37,634 Speaker 2: bad feeling. It's not like there's no resentment there. It's 491 00:21:37,674 --> 00:21:41,514 Speaker 2: not like I it's I'm jealous that I'm not there 492 00:21:41,874 --> 00:21:44,074 Speaker 2: or and you should be because it's not your own 493 00:21:44,074 --> 00:21:47,033 Speaker 2: fault because you're no, it doesn't mass how I feel. Then. 494 00:21:47,074 --> 00:21:52,034 Speaker 1: The second time was my other co host, Key, who 495 00:21:52,114 --> 00:21:54,834 Speaker 1: I do a podcast with. She's got another podcast and 496 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:58,114 Speaker 1: her and the other podcast host they just launched and 497 00:21:58,154 --> 00:22:02,074 Speaker 1: Spotify splashed their faces and their podcast cover over like 498 00:22:02,114 --> 00:22:05,994 Speaker 1: billboards around the I was jealous and I've told them that, 499 00:22:06,114 --> 00:22:08,354 Speaker 1: or I told you that. I said, I'm so jealous. 500 00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:11,314 Speaker 1: So that's not us as well, like so it's just. 501 00:22:11,474 --> 00:22:13,474 Speaker 2: It's that, That's what I mean. That's a good way. 502 00:22:13,474 --> 00:22:16,714 Speaker 2: I get that pit of jealousy where I just am like, oh, 503 00:22:16,954 --> 00:22:18,754 Speaker 2: you guys are doing really cool stuff. 504 00:22:18,794 --> 00:22:19,954 Speaker 1: I want to do cool. 505 00:22:19,714 --> 00:22:22,793 Speaker 2: Stuff you are, but it just isn't recognized, like with 506 00:22:22,874 --> 00:22:26,194 Speaker 2: the Spotify thing. I mean, as you know, Eats Sleep 507 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:27,994 Speaker 2: Repeat is my favorite podcast because I text you every 508 00:22:28,034 --> 00:22:30,434 Speaker 2: week about it. It could have been. It just wasn't. 509 00:22:30,434 --> 00:22:30,954 Speaker 1: But it wasn't. 510 00:22:31,034 --> 00:22:33,154 Speaker 2: That's the thing, and that's okay, but that's a hard 511 00:22:33,194 --> 00:22:35,634 Speaker 2: I think people need to talk about jealousy and can 512 00:22:35,674 --> 00:22:37,513 Speaker 2: I tell you why. I don't get jealousy. And I 513 00:22:37,554 --> 00:22:39,354 Speaker 2: think that you will know this because I get I 514 00:22:39,354 --> 00:22:44,754 Speaker 2: have so much self negative talks like it's all on me. 515 00:22:44,994 --> 00:22:46,994 Speaker 2: So who am I jealous of? I'm just angry at 516 00:22:46,994 --> 00:22:49,714 Speaker 2: myself for not doing this, not doing that, not being 517 00:22:49,754 --> 00:22:52,553 Speaker 2: good enough, blah blah blah. So I don't get jealous 518 00:22:52,754 --> 00:22:54,634 Speaker 2: of other people's things. I just get mad at myself 519 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:55,834 Speaker 2: for like not being better. 520 00:22:55,954 --> 00:22:58,954 Speaker 1: You would be too busy noticing things that are everything 521 00:22:58,994 --> 00:23:01,594 Speaker 1: I don't do. Yeah, you'd be like noticing things that 522 00:23:01,634 --> 00:23:03,793 Speaker 1: are wrong with your life or things that are like, 523 00:23:03,874 --> 00:23:06,914 Speaker 1: it's not my life, it's me like you, rather than 524 00:23:07,274 --> 00:23:08,714 Speaker 1: looking at what other people are doing. 525 00:23:08,914 --> 00:23:12,114 Speaker 2: Actually you don't look up. I don't look up. Oh 526 00:23:12,354 --> 00:23:14,674 Speaker 2: oh my god, I would do in Paris, I who 527 00:23:14,754 --> 00:23:19,914 Speaker 2: just look up? You're taking you. We're gonna get a scoop. 528 00:23:19,954 --> 00:23:22,033 Speaker 2: Do they do that? We'll hide in a circuit. 529 00:23:22,154 --> 00:23:25,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just be packed. Okay. I couldn't think of this. 530 00:23:26,074 --> 00:23:28,434 Speaker 1: But what is your perfect day from start to finish? 531 00:23:28,594 --> 00:23:30,954 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it. I'm like, I need two. 532 00:23:30,794 --> 00:23:33,273 Speaker 2: Days, Okay, you can have two. You can have an overnight. 533 00:23:33,594 --> 00:23:36,834 Speaker 2: I wake up probably in my house, but with no 534 00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:39,394 Speaker 2: husband and no child, and it's totally tidy. My shit 535 00:23:39,474 --> 00:23:42,474 Speaker 2: isn't everywhere. I wander downstairs and make my instant coffee, 536 00:23:42,474 --> 00:23:44,513 Speaker 2: which I absolutely love, but I get to drink it 537 00:23:44,634 --> 00:23:47,553 Speaker 2: in hot peace with my record player on, because I've 538 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,033 Speaker 2: got a record player. I have the best records. But 539 00:23:49,074 --> 00:23:51,234 Speaker 2: as soon as I put it on, my son guys 540 00:23:53,754 --> 00:23:57,434 Speaker 2: breaks everything. I would do a bit of pottering and 541 00:23:57,514 --> 00:23:59,874 Speaker 2: just playing, like at the moment, We've got these shelves 542 00:23:59,874 --> 00:24:01,434 Speaker 2: and I've just shoved heaps of shit in it. I'm 543 00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:04,073 Speaker 2: so excited to like merchant dollars. Then I would get 544 00:24:04,114 --> 00:24:06,194 Speaker 2: in my car and I would go to McDonald's and 545 00:24:06,274 --> 00:24:08,954 Speaker 2: get also took muffin too hash bounds and a meating 546 00:24:08,994 --> 00:24:11,954 Speaker 2: orange juice. Then I'd go thrifting for a few different 547 00:24:12,354 --> 00:24:15,914 Speaker 2: outfits for me to steal. Yes, Then I might go 548 00:24:15,994 --> 00:24:18,194 Speaker 2: for a foot massage because I hate proper massages, so 549 00:24:18,194 --> 00:24:20,674 Speaker 2: I can play in my phone. Then I would probably 550 00:24:20,714 --> 00:24:22,194 Speaker 2: meet up with a couple of friends and have a 551 00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:27,434 Speaker 2: bunch of margaritaders and eat some yummy food, and then 552 00:24:27,954 --> 00:24:29,834 Speaker 2: I don't care what happens after that, probably take my 553 00:24:29,874 --> 00:24:32,434 Speaker 2: clothes off and jump in the ocean. Oh, I make it. 554 00:24:32,674 --> 00:24:35,313 Speaker 2: My whole mother's group did that months after Mother's like 555 00:24:35,354 --> 00:24:37,834 Speaker 2: a fine. Nah. We had a bottomless brunch at five o'clock. 556 00:24:37,874 --> 00:24:39,474 Speaker 2: We took all our clothes off and jumped in the ocean, 557 00:24:39,834 --> 00:24:43,553 Speaker 2: which beach good. So there was just a bunch of 558 00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,114 Speaker 2: bottoms running around winter so there wasn't a lot of 559 00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:46,674 Speaker 2: people there. 560 00:24:46,874 --> 00:24:48,554 Speaker 1: Still, I would have just been like, that is a 561 00:24:48,634 --> 00:24:49,714 Speaker 1: Mum's group gone wild. 562 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:52,394 Speaker 2: It was fun. What about you? Oh, I honestly couldn't 563 00:24:52,554 --> 00:24:53,914 Speaker 2: one thing you want to do that day? 564 00:24:54,114 --> 00:24:55,674 Speaker 1: Yeah, have a few drinks. 565 00:24:56,194 --> 00:24:57,914 Speaker 2: Come to mine in the afternoon, not my house, We're 566 00:24:57,914 --> 00:24:58,554 Speaker 2: going somewhere cool. 567 00:24:59,594 --> 00:25:02,314 Speaker 1: Last question, what's your most cringe moment. 568 00:25:02,914 --> 00:25:06,354 Speaker 2: I had just been to Paris and I swear I 569 00:25:06,434 --> 00:25:08,954 Speaker 2: got I called it a parasite. My tummy has not 570 00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:11,074 Speaker 2: been right since that last ship, so I'm calling it 571 00:25:11,114 --> 00:25:12,914 Speaker 2: a parasite. I was on the way to a shoot 572 00:25:12,914 --> 00:25:16,314 Speaker 2: for Mama Maa. I'm not gonna go into too many details, 573 00:25:16,314 --> 00:25:17,714 Speaker 2: but I was wearing the clothes I had to wear. 574 00:25:17,834 --> 00:25:20,354 Speaker 2: It was quite a drive away driving along. 575 00:25:20,594 --> 00:25:21,634 Speaker 1: Did you shoot yourself in the car? 576 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:27,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, not shit, but like shouted yes. And I was 577 00:25:27,754 --> 00:25:29,593 Speaker 2: running late and I had to pull into a shopping 578 00:25:29,634 --> 00:25:31,434 Speaker 2: center and message them and say, hi, I'm so sorry, 579 00:25:31,434 --> 00:25:34,234 Speaker 2: there's lots of traffic. Went into the bathroom my caunt book, 580 00:25:34,234 --> 00:25:36,273 Speaker 2: I'm telling this story, and like my underwear was a 581 00:25:36,354 --> 00:25:39,954 Speaker 2: right off. Oh, but the pants were fine. So I 582 00:25:39,994 --> 00:25:42,074 Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck do I do here? So 583 00:25:42,194 --> 00:25:44,273 Speaker 2: I took off my undies, through them out, cleaned myself up, 584 00:25:44,274 --> 00:25:48,154 Speaker 2: put heaps and heaps of toilet paper like around my badge, pulled, 585 00:25:48,194 --> 00:25:49,634 Speaker 2: put the pants back on, went into the wallies that 586 00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,914 Speaker 2: the shopping center bought. Period, dundees went back, put the 587 00:25:51,954 --> 00:25:54,594 Speaker 2: period dundees on, put the pants on, got back, wipes 588 00:25:54,674 --> 00:25:56,074 Speaker 2: and everything got back in the current. Man went and 589 00:25:56,074 --> 00:25:58,234 Speaker 2: it was so more to fine because my tummy was 590 00:25:58,274 --> 00:26:00,034 Speaker 2: just really bad and I'd had a lot of gas. 591 00:26:00,074 --> 00:26:02,234 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm telling this story, but I didn't 592 00:26:02,234 --> 00:26:03,474 Speaker 2: even know it was gonna happen. And then I just 593 00:26:03,514 --> 00:26:06,474 Speaker 2: went Oh. I cried and cried and cried, and I'd 594 00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:10,514 Speaker 2: done all my ice maker for this shoe. You shutted, Yeah, 595 00:26:10,994 --> 00:26:13,474 Speaker 2: in your clothes you need to wear for the shoes, 596 00:26:13,514 --> 00:26:16,114 Speaker 2: the clients clothes. But it was fine. But I was 597 00:26:16,194 --> 00:26:18,394 Speaker 2: just already running late. It was so far away, and 598 00:26:18,394 --> 00:26:19,794 Speaker 2: then I just was like, of course this happened. And 599 00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:21,554 Speaker 2: then by the time i'd left, I didn't tell them. 600 00:26:21,554 --> 00:26:23,914 Speaker 2: I'd seen the funny side. So I told my girlfriends 601 00:26:23,914 --> 00:26:26,234 Speaker 2: and they were just hysterical. 602 00:26:26,354 --> 00:26:29,793 Speaker 1: Yeah and sorry, like, okay, it's immature, but shitting yourself 603 00:26:29,874 --> 00:26:31,194 Speaker 1: stories are so funny. 604 00:26:31,274 --> 00:26:33,314 Speaker 2: It's a solid pood. No one's ever done that. It's 605 00:26:33,354 --> 00:26:34,154 Speaker 2: just something came out that. 606 00:26:35,074 --> 00:26:36,914 Speaker 1: Oh I pooed myself in the car before. 607 00:26:38,034 --> 00:26:42,034 Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, oh my god, mine was like catastrophic diarrhea. Well, 608 00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:43,754 Speaker 2: so it's my friend and then her puppy licked it. 609 00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,994 Speaker 2: I know, Okay, what's yours? Do you know what? 610 00:26:47,074 --> 00:26:51,234 Speaker 1: I actually don't have my biggest cringe moment because I 611 00:26:51,394 --> 00:26:54,434 Speaker 1: do embarrassing stuff all the time, but it doesn't. 612 00:26:54,074 --> 00:26:57,114 Speaker 2: Really like one thing came to mind. Falling on someone 613 00:26:57,874 --> 00:27:01,234 Speaker 2: after like while I was being interviewed was pretty embarrassing. 614 00:27:01,274 --> 00:27:04,794 Speaker 2: It's embarrassing falling on them, yes, Like she was very 615 00:27:04,794 --> 00:27:07,114 Speaker 2: small and I fell on her. Why did you? 616 00:27:07,274 --> 00:27:09,114 Speaker 1: Oh, I just think I was wearing high heels because 617 00:27:09,114 --> 00:27:11,394 Speaker 1: it was like a fancy I was really young. 618 00:27:11,234 --> 00:27:13,914 Speaker 2: And high heels and you fell on the person. 619 00:27:13,834 --> 00:27:18,154 Speaker 1: On the pulse person that was interviewing me so good, 620 00:27:18,514 --> 00:27:20,434 Speaker 1: like like, hi, thanks for having me, and I. 621 00:27:20,354 --> 00:27:23,114 Speaker 2: Literally sufficed I did not get the job. Oh that 622 00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:26,514 Speaker 2: kind of interview, the interview like it was my job interview. 623 00:27:26,554 --> 00:27:31,594 Speaker 2: So I was probably that's overcompensated. It was like how 624 00:27:31,634 --> 00:27:32,954 Speaker 2: I met you, but then you crushed her. 625 00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:36,434 Speaker 1: But then I literally fell on her. I never heard 626 00:27:36,434 --> 00:27:37,074 Speaker 1: from them. 627 00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:39,754 Speaker 2: Obviously, but yeah, I don't injured. 628 00:27:39,674 --> 00:27:43,434 Speaker 1: Like I still it was funny. More so like looking 629 00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:44,354 Speaker 1: about now. 630 00:27:44,274 --> 00:27:44,674 Speaker 2: I don't know. 631 00:27:44,794 --> 00:27:47,554 Speaker 1: I don't really like I do embarrassing stuff all the time, 632 00:27:47,594 --> 00:27:49,474 Speaker 1: like vomit on myself, pooh myself, whatever. 633 00:27:50,034 --> 00:27:52,994 Speaker 2: I just don't that's your personal brand. I just don't 634 00:27:52,994 --> 00:27:56,514 Speaker 2: have much shame. I love it good. I get jealous, 635 00:27:56,514 --> 00:27:58,914 Speaker 2: but no shame. I have enough shame for both of us. 636 00:27:59,274 --> 00:28:02,714 Speaker 2: And you were embarrassing. Okay, thank you for joining us 637 00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:05,834 Speaker 2: for the first episode of Hot Pot Summer. All fresh content, 638 00:28:05,994 --> 00:28:08,194 Speaker 2: all a bit rogue. This is going to beauty related, 639 00:28:08,234 --> 00:28:09,313 Speaker 2: but we thought you might want to get to know 640 00:28:09,394 --> 00:28:11,594 Speaker 2: us a little bit better. If you're not watching on YouTube, 641 00:28:11,874 --> 00:28:13,474 Speaker 2: how about we tell you for the hundredth time to 642 00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:16,874 Speaker 2: watch on YouTube. Gone subscribe, Yeah, like and subscribe if 643 00:28:16,874 --> 00:28:18,754 Speaker 2: you're listening. Thank you so much and we'll see you 644 00:28:18,794 --> 00:28:22,434 Speaker 2: soon Bye.