1 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:14,332 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia, welcome to the spill, your daily pop 2 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:17,294 Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Tina Provis, and 3 00:00:17,294 --> 00:00:19,494 Speaker 1: coming up on the show today, Married at First Sight, 4 00:00:19,574 --> 00:00:21,933 Speaker 1: we've just got through another week, but this time we're 5 00:00:21,933 --> 00:00:24,214 Speaker 1: gonna talk about a scandal that happened in the real 6 00:00:24,214 --> 00:00:27,253 Speaker 1: world and some scandals that happened on the show. So 7 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:30,974 Speaker 1: many scandals, not enough time. But first, just a little 8 00:00:30,974 --> 00:00:33,013 Speaker 1: update on some things that are coming to Netflix cause 9 00:00:33,013 --> 00:00:34,852 Speaker 1: I know that that is the streaming service that people 10 00:00:34,853 --> 00:00:36,534 Speaker 1: are just like, tell me what to watch, tell me 11 00:00:36,534 --> 00:00:37,054 Speaker 1: what's coming 12 00:00:37,054 --> 00:00:39,252 Speaker 2: up. I need the inside scoop. Give it 13 00:00:39,253 --> 00:00:39,572 Speaker 2: to me. 14 00:00:39,772 --> 00:00:40,532 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this week. 15 00:00:40,608 --> 00:00:43,168 Speaker 1: I went to Netflix upfronts Next on Netflix. I'm sure 16 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:45,129 Speaker 1: you've been to these things before with streamers and stuff 17 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:48,089 Speaker 1: where they give you like a little preview of what's 18 00:00:48,089 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: coming up on the service, like new shows, movies, announcement, 19 00:00:50,968 --> 00:00:53,288 Speaker 1: they have the cast there. This was a little bit 20 00:00:53,288 --> 00:00:56,949 Speaker 1: more secretive because normally at these things you can film 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,250 Speaker 1: everyone coming out on stage and like who's there and 22 00:01:00,250 --> 00:01:02,399 Speaker 1: announcements and stuff, but this one was kind of like 23 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:04,809 Speaker 1: go into like a dark room and they were like, 24 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: they didn't take your phone, but they did say at 25 00:01:06,559 --> 00:01:09,929 Speaker 1: the start like, don't pull your phone out and film anything. 26 00:01:10,005 --> 00:01:13,166 Speaker 1: You'd be like shamed. Yeah, you'd be publicly ridiculed and 27 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:15,425 Speaker 1: a bunch of entertaining people like, no, that's the worst 28 00:01:15,425 --> 00:01:17,725 Speaker 1: thing ever. Um, and they also said they had the 29 00:01:17,725 --> 00:01:20,986 Speaker 1: night vision goggles out, which I didn't see but it 30 00:01:20,986 --> 00:01:23,355 Speaker 1: does happen a lot. Have you had night vision goggles 31 00:01:23,355 --> 00:01:26,255 Speaker 1: at an event? No. Oh no, you would have, you 32 00:01:26,255 --> 00:01:28,126 Speaker 1: would have in they give them to you. No, no, no, no, no, no, 33 00:01:28,316 --> 00:01:30,395 Speaker 1: they have people, so cos you're sitting in the dark 34 00:01:30,395 --> 00:01:32,605 Speaker 1: and they wanna make sure you're not filming, so they 35 00:01:32,605 --> 00:01:35,246 Speaker 1: have people in the room wearing night vision goggles. I 36 00:01:35,246 --> 00:01:37,365 Speaker 1: don't know if they had at the Netflix event, but 37 00:01:37,365 --> 00:01:38,045 Speaker 1: it's funny if you got some. 38 00:01:40,143 --> 00:01:41,664 Speaker 1: Oh no, I would love some. Oh my God, I 39 00:01:41,664 --> 00:01:43,304 Speaker 1: should get some to carry in my bag when I 40 00:01:43,304 --> 00:01:46,103 Speaker 1: go to events. It happens a lot at movie screenings 41 00:01:46,103 --> 00:01:48,984 Speaker 1: where the movie is like, it's like a big blockbuster 42 00:01:49,224 --> 00:01:51,783 Speaker 1: and you'll see the security walk around and they wear 43 00:01:51,783 --> 00:01:55,944 Speaker 1: night vision goggles. And so the most awkward time is 44 00:01:55,944 --> 00:01:57,743 Speaker 1: when I, sometimes when you're doing an interview with a 45 00:01:57,743 --> 00:02:00,274 Speaker 1: big celeb, you watch the movie by yourself first. I 46 00:02:00,274 --> 00:02:01,063 Speaker 1: don't know if you've done that in junk. 47 00:02:01,203 --> 00:02:02,794 Speaker 1: It's where you just watch it by yourself in a 48 00:02:02,794 --> 00:02:05,563 Speaker 1: little theater and because it has to be under lock 49 00:02:05,563 --> 00:02:08,203 Speaker 1: and key, they take your phone. But then sometimes they 50 00:02:08,203 --> 00:02:11,803 Speaker 1: have just one security guard in night vision goggles watching 51 00:02:11,804 --> 00:02:15,643 Speaker 1: you giving like squid games. And a few times that's happened, 52 00:02:15,684 --> 00:02:17,043 Speaker 1: I've had to be them like and they're just like 53 00:02:17,043 --> 00:02:18,763 Speaker 1: sitting there silently and I'm just like, I'm so sorry, 54 00:02:18,843 --> 00:02:20,203 Speaker 1: I do have to have a snack because this is 55 00:02:20,203 --> 00:02:21,383 Speaker 1: like my only break for today. 56 00:02:21,563 --> 00:02:22,143 Speaker 2: It's like you're 57 00:02:22,143 --> 00:02:22,483 Speaker 2: chewing. 58 00:02:22,584 --> 00:02:24,694 Speaker 2: It's really loud, you're like, I'm sorry you 59 00:02:24,694 --> 00:02:26,304 Speaker 1: can't see their face properly, you see like, are we 60 00:02:26,304 --> 00:02:28,744 Speaker 1: falling in love? Does he want to kill me? What's happening? Anyway, 61 00:02:28,983 --> 00:02:32,503 Speaker 1: back to back to, yeah, exactly. Oh my God, someone 62 00:02:32,503 --> 00:02:35,263 Speaker 1: write that rom-com. The movie reviewer and the night vision goggles. 63 00:02:36,063 --> 00:02:37,864 Speaker 1: I'm sure this when Netflix invited me, this is not 64 00:02:37,864 --> 00:02:41,024 Speaker 1: the coverage they wanted. So we went in and they 65 00:02:41,024 --> 00:02:42,464 Speaker 1: had it kind of like all done up for like 66 00:02:42,464 --> 00:02:43,864 Speaker 1: what's coming from the year ahead. 67 00:02:44,263 --> 00:02:45,744 Speaker 1: I didn't get to do this because I was running late, 68 00:02:45,864 --> 00:02:47,823 Speaker 1: story of my life, but they had a tarot card 69 00:02:47,824 --> 00:02:50,623 Speaker 1: reader there, and I'm disappointed I didn't get to do 70 00:02:50,623 --> 00:02:53,024 Speaker 1: it because I thought it might have been the tarot 71 00:02:53,024 --> 00:02:55,584 Speaker 1: card reader that they had at the Bridgerton Netflix event 72 00:02:55,864 --> 00:02:58,184 Speaker 1: that we both went to because everything that woman has 73 00:02:58,184 --> 00:03:00,104 Speaker 1: told everyone I know, I didn't get 74 00:03:00,104 --> 00:03:02,423 Speaker 2: a reading. You didn't. No, I saw the line and 75 00:03:02,423 --> 00:03:04,423 Speaker 2: I was like, not today. I mean, I'm, I was 76 00:03:04,423 --> 00:03:06,073 Speaker 2: at the cupcake station and that was 77 00:03:06,074 --> 00:03:07,164 Speaker 2: great too. They were great cupcakes 78 00:03:07,164 --> 00:03:08,714 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, so I don't know, I'll get that 79 00:03:08,714 --> 00:03:10,343 Speaker 1: woman's number and maybe I don't. 80 00:03:10,434 --> 00:03:11,474 Speaker 1: I don't believe in that stuff. 81 00:03:11,593 --> 00:03:13,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's with me as well. I'm a skeptic. 82 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:16,194 Speaker 2: I actually had a tarot reading at an event last week. Oh, 83 00:03:16,313 --> 00:03:18,244 Speaker 2: what did they say? They said that they were like, 84 00:03:18,253 --> 00:03:20,274 Speaker 2: there's a man in your life and he's helping you, 85 00:03:20,313 --> 00:03:22,054 Speaker 2: and I'm like, there's definitely not. 86 00:03:23,873 --> 00:03:24,173 Speaker 2: There's not helping my life again. 87 00:03:25,343 --> 00:03:27,554 Speaker 1: Well, this, the only thing that psychic told me, everything 88 00:03:27,554 --> 00:03:29,074 Speaker 1: else she told me has come true, but she did 89 00:03:29,074 --> 00:03:30,393 Speaker 1: tell me I was gonna get married to an Englishman 90 00:03:30,393 --> 00:03:33,353 Speaker 1: and that hasn't happened yet. But I guess we'll see. OK, 91 00:03:33,474 --> 00:03:35,033 Speaker 1: love that. She wouldn't put a time limit on it. Well, 92 00:03:35,194 --> 00:03:35,313 Speaker 2: she 93 00:03:35,313 --> 00:03:36,224 Speaker 2: also said I was gonna have a 94 00:03:36,224 --> 00:03:36,753 Speaker 2: son. 95 00:03:37,074 --> 00:03:38,554 Speaker 1: I mean, wow, I'm like, OK. 96 00:03:39,054 --> 00:03:40,153 Speaker 1: Well that's really specific, 97 00:03:40,293 --> 00:03:40,793 Speaker 2: yeah, it is. 98 00:03:41,214 --> 00:03:45,003 Speaker 1: Wow, OK. Well, coming up on Netflix, and that was 99 00:03:45,003 --> 00:03:48,813 Speaker 1: the pivot. I just think sometimes these things about the 100 00:03:48,813 --> 00:03:51,134 Speaker 1: tone of the event is important. So we got a 101 00:03:51,134 --> 00:03:53,334 Speaker 1: sneak peek at a few things coming up on Netflix 102 00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:56,253 Speaker 1: in Australia and New Zealand for the 2026 slate. 103 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:57,774 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go through a few that I 104 00:03:57,774 --> 00:04:00,474 Speaker 1: think people will most care about. One of the things 105 00:04:00,474 --> 00:04:02,533 Speaker 1: that they announced, and they had the cast there, which 106 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:04,893 Speaker 1: was really lovely, and they also showed the trailer which 107 00:04:04,893 --> 00:04:06,813 Speaker 1: has now been shared, so you can actually watch it 108 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:09,854 Speaker 1: for yourself, was for the 3rd and final season of 109 00:04:09,854 --> 00:04:13,753 Speaker 1: Heartbreak High, which is premiering on Netflix on March 25th. 110 00:04:14,873 --> 00:04:15,453 Speaker 2: Have you been watching 111 00:04:15,453 --> 00:04:16,553 Speaker 1: the new Heartbreak High? 112 00:04:16,743 --> 00:04:18,443 Speaker 2: I, I'm up to date. Oh, OK, I'm up to date. 113 00:04:18,452 --> 00:04:19,733 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna need a little refresher. 114 00:04:20,238 --> 00:04:21,988 Speaker 2: But I'm sure Netflix will give me that when I 115 00:04:21,988 --> 00:04:22,649 Speaker 2: click into it. 116 00:04:22,718 --> 00:04:22,798 Speaker 1: It 117 00:04:22,798 --> 00:04:24,198 Speaker 1: was so funny, they had some of the cast come 118 00:04:24,198 --> 00:04:25,738 Speaker 1: out and they had one of the creators come out 119 00:04:25,998 --> 00:04:28,797 Speaker 1: and they were talking about because Heartbreak High, like this 120 00:04:28,798 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: new version, because obviously there were two different versions. I 121 00:04:31,558 --> 00:04:34,758 Speaker 1: watched the one that was out in the 90s. I remember, yeah, 122 00:04:34,878 --> 00:04:37,038 Speaker 1: like running home. I was actually, this is what we 123 00:04:37,037 --> 00:04:38,787 Speaker 1: were all talking about in the room in the event 124 00:04:38,787 --> 00:04:40,857 Speaker 1: after the announcement, how a bunch of us had like 125 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,138 Speaker 1: run home from school in the, 126 00:04:43,534 --> 00:04:46,964 Speaker 1: Like early 90s, from primary school to watch Heartbreak High, 127 00:04:47,323 --> 00:04:49,744 Speaker 1: because there was this particular love story between these two characters, 128 00:04:49,823 --> 00:04:51,663 Speaker 1: Anita and Drazic, and it was the first time we 129 00:04:51,662 --> 00:04:54,613 Speaker 1: had all been like super invested in a fictional love story. 130 00:04:54,702 --> 00:04:57,373 Speaker 1: Like I'm part of this, I'm, I'm part of this, yeah, 131 00:04:57,433 --> 00:04:59,623 Speaker 1: it's huge. And so it was really nice, they had 132 00:04:59,623 --> 00:05:01,703 Speaker 1: Chloe Hayden on stage, one of the actresses who's been 133 00:05:01,702 --> 00:05:04,702 Speaker 1: like a breakout, yeah, love her, and she was talking 134 00:05:04,702 --> 00:05:06,623 Speaker 1: about like what the show means to them and how 135 00:05:06,623 --> 00:05:08,663 Speaker 1: when the show wrapped they all cried and then they 136 00:05:08,662 --> 00:05:09,863 Speaker 1: showed the trailer and it's going. 137 00:05:09,938 --> 00:05:12,808 Speaker 1: Through their final year of the 138 00:05:12,808 --> 00:05:13,258 Speaker 2: Heartbreak 139 00:05:13,258 --> 00:05:13,287 Speaker 1: High, 140 00:05:13,698 --> 00:05:13,938 Speaker 2: I feel 141 00:05:13,938 --> 00:05:15,888 Speaker 2: like they've been in high school forever. Oh yeah, well, 142 00:05:15,998 --> 00:05:16,977 Speaker 2: they are still in school. 143 00:05:17,138 --> 00:05:19,017 Speaker 1: Well, they're graduating now and so that's what we're gonna 144 00:05:19,017 --> 00:05:22,578 Speaker 1: see this kind of like relationships formed, relationships broken, but yeah, 145 00:05:22,659 --> 00:05:24,659 Speaker 1: from what we saw, it's gonna be such a good season, 146 00:05:24,738 --> 00:05:26,978 Speaker 1: so if anyone hasn't watched Heartbreak High, you should watch 147 00:05:26,977 --> 00:05:28,698 Speaker 1: it all before March 25th. 148 00:05:29,097 --> 00:05:29,899 Speaker 2: It's dropping all in 149 00:05:29,899 --> 00:05:31,529 Speaker 2: one. Yes, I think it is, perfect, 150 00:05:32,378 --> 00:05:34,018 Speaker 1: perfect for locking all the doors. Kids today, I don't 151 00:05:34,017 --> 00:05:36,418 Speaker 1: know if they know how to like watch week by week. No, no, no, no, no. 152 00:05:37,352 --> 00:05:39,322 Speaker 1: Something else I wanted to flag because it's coming April 153 00:05:39,323 --> 00:05:43,964 Speaker 1: 24th is a movie called Apex, which stars Charlize Theron 154 00:05:43,964 --> 00:05:47,392 Speaker 1: and Taron Edgerton, and Charlize Theron plays this woman who's 155 00:05:47,392 --> 00:05:51,003 Speaker 1: like in the wilderness, and then Taron Edgerton plays a 156 00:05:51,003 --> 00:05:53,763 Speaker 1: ruthless predator, and the trailer for this was 10 out 157 00:05:53,763 --> 00:05:56,404 Speaker 1: of 10 good action. So it's a horror. Well, no, 158 00:05:56,472 --> 00:05:59,482 Speaker 1: it's more like a thriller, like a wilderness thriller, wilderness thriller, 159 00:05:59,524 --> 00:06:01,683 Speaker 1: and it's quite funny because like a lot of the 160 00:06:01,683 --> 00:06:03,952 Speaker 1: projects they were showing, like they're all been filmed in 161 00:06:03,952 --> 00:06:05,863 Speaker 1: Australia or made by Australian filmmakers, that was amazing. 162 00:06:06,383 --> 00:06:08,714 Speaker 1: But sometimes people would talk about like, and we were, 163 00:06:08,774 --> 00:06:10,543 Speaker 1: you know, we were so deep in the wilderness, we 164 00:06:10,542 --> 00:06:12,103 Speaker 1: had to go here, we're so far away and I 165 00:06:12,102 --> 00:06:13,663 Speaker 1: was like that is just for most of us a 166 00:06:13,662 --> 00:06:16,763 Speaker 1: little bit of just our everyday world, but I understand 167 00:06:16,763 --> 00:06:20,263 Speaker 1: it feels very otherworldly. OK, this next one I want 168 00:06:20,263 --> 00:06:22,143 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on because I know you've done 169 00:06:22,142 --> 00:06:24,743 Speaker 1: a few reality shows and you're across reality shows, so 170 00:06:24,743 --> 00:06:27,722 Speaker 1: I wanna know if you would do this particular reality show. 171 00:06:28,373 --> 00:06:32,253 Speaker 1: It's called The Golden Ticket, and it's a reality competition 172 00:06:32,253 --> 00:06:35,892 Speaker 1: series based on the world of Willy Wonka. Oh yes, 173 00:06:37,334 --> 00:06:38,013 Speaker 2: I'd be diving into 174 00:06:38,013 --> 00:06:39,013 Speaker 1: the 175 00:06:39,013 --> 00:06:39,024 Speaker 2: world 176 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:42,972 Speaker 1: of Willy Wonka. So contestants have to survive a retro 177 00:06:42,972 --> 00:06:47,133 Speaker 1: futuristic dreamscape of games and temptations, and of course it 178 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:50,284 Speaker 1: was filmed in the Gold Coast. What? That sounds insane. 179 00:06:50,412 --> 00:06:51,933 Speaker 1: So it's like Willy Wonka themed. 180 00:06:52,118 --> 00:06:52,488 Speaker 1: Challenges. 181 00:06:52,517 --> 00:06:53,038 Speaker 2: Is it filmed 182 00:06:53,037 --> 00:06:55,029 Speaker 2: in the Gold Coast with an Australian cast? 183 00:06:55,118 --> 00:06:56,758 Speaker 1: Um, they didn't really give too much about the cast. 184 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,678 Speaker 1: This is the one they didn't show us, they didn't 185 00:06:58,678 --> 00:07:00,797 Speaker 1: show us any photos or anything like that. They just 186 00:07:00,798 --> 00:07:02,958 Speaker 1: got up on stage and told us about it. Wow, 187 00:07:03,198 --> 00:07:04,618 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was allowed to share all this, 188 00:07:04,678 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: but I'm assuming it's fine. No, made of candy? Yeah, 189 00:07:08,358 --> 00:07:10,159 Speaker 1: they did say something about licking the wallpaper, because you 190 00:07:10,159 --> 00:07:12,649 Speaker 1: know in the original movie that's a big thing. Yeah. No, 191 00:07:12,719 --> 00:07:14,518 Speaker 1: I'd be down for that. Season 2, if they filmed 192 00:07:14,518 --> 00:07:15,578 Speaker 1: this one already, season 2. 193 00:07:16,263 --> 00:07:17,874 Speaker 1: OK, and to finish, I mean there was lots of 194 00:07:17,874 --> 00:07:19,513 Speaker 1: great things in there, but to finish up, there was 195 00:07:19,513 --> 00:07:21,114 Speaker 1: one thing, when I came back to the office after 196 00:07:21,114 --> 00:07:24,254 Speaker 1: the Netflix upfront, there's one show that every single person 197 00:07:24,254 --> 00:07:25,352 Speaker 1: was asking me about. 198 00:07:25,792 --> 00:07:29,913 Speaker 1: And that is the new version of Stranger Things called 199 00:07:29,913 --> 00:07:31,923 Speaker 1: Stranger Things Tales from '85. 200 00:07:32,084 --> 00:07:32,483 Speaker 2: Right, 201 00:07:32,602 --> 00:07:35,273 Speaker 2: so is it like a prequel vibe? No, 202 00:07:35,564 --> 00:07:37,663 Speaker 1: well, here's the thing, I did know it was coming, 203 00:07:37,964 --> 00:07:40,364 Speaker 1: but when they announced like now we're gonna talk about 204 00:07:40,364 --> 00:07:42,883 Speaker 1: the new Stranger Things and they played Kate Bush running 205 00:07:42,883 --> 00:07:44,744 Speaker 1: up that hill in the roof, everyone kind of went like, 206 00:07:45,163 --> 00:07:47,283 Speaker 1: cos like obviously everyone is so desperate for their. 207 00:07:47,602 --> 00:07:50,983 Speaker 1: Actual show to continue with the actors, or at least 208 00:07:50,983 --> 00:07:52,784 Speaker 1: to get some fragments of that real world out of it. 209 00:07:53,584 --> 00:07:55,744 Speaker 1: It's not that, which I knew it wasn't, but just 210 00:07:55,744 --> 00:07:57,464 Speaker 1: for a moment, I don't know, sometimes running up that 211 00:07:57,464 --> 00:07:59,973 Speaker 1: hill makes me think. Yeah, just for a moment I'm like, 212 00:07:59,983 --> 00:08:02,223 Speaker 1: are they gonna announce like a live action movie or 213 00:08:02,223 --> 00:08:06,763 Speaker 1: a continuation, but no, it's an animated series. I know. 214 00:08:07,214 --> 00:08:10,143 Speaker 1: That's what everyone said but has been piqued. OK, no, no, no, 215 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:11,464 Speaker 1: that is what everyone said. I came back to the 216 00:08:11,464 --> 00:08:14,103 Speaker 1: office and everyone said, what about Stranger Things? and I said, OK, 217 00:08:14,223 --> 00:08:15,864 Speaker 1: I did see the trailer. I won't say too much 218 00:08:15,864 --> 00:08:16,964 Speaker 1: because I don't often like to share. 219 00:08:17,423 --> 00:08:20,382 Speaker 1: I did see the trailer for Stranger Things Tales from '85. 220 00:08:20,663 --> 00:08:24,103 Speaker 1: It's all the original characters from the show, but it's 221 00:08:24,102 --> 00:08:28,143 Speaker 1: animated and it's set in the winter of 1985, and 222 00:08:28,143 --> 00:08:31,263 Speaker 1: I've gotta say it's not the same cast voicing their characters. 223 00:08:31,624 --> 00:08:34,143 Speaker 1: So like there's a cute moment with like Michael and 224 00:08:34,143 --> 00:08:36,543 Speaker 1: Max and 11, but it's not the voice actors, but 225 00:08:36,543 --> 00:08:39,213 Speaker 1: it looks exactly like them. It looks exactly like them. 226 00:08:39,264 --> 00:08:42,543 Speaker 1: The animation is very old school eighties animation which I loved. 227 00:08:42,954 --> 00:08:45,023 Speaker 1: And then it kind of ends with this like really 228 00:08:45,023 --> 00:08:47,824 Speaker 1: cute quip from Steve Harrington, he like throws his hair back, 229 00:08:47,864 --> 00:08:49,543 Speaker 1: but it's not Steve Harrington but it kind of is, 230 00:08:49,603 --> 00:08:51,543 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I might watch at least 231 00:08:51,543 --> 00:08:52,783 Speaker 1: the first few episodes. Give it 232 00:08:52,783 --> 00:08:54,694 Speaker 2: a go. I think like it's nice for people wanting 233 00:08:54,694 --> 00:08:56,713 Speaker 2: to get more out of that world, but just having 234 00:08:56,713 --> 00:08:59,983 Speaker 2: like the expectation that, you know, it's not gonna be, 235 00:09:00,223 --> 00:09:02,144 Speaker 1: yeah, it's not gonna be that, it's more kind of 236 00:09:02,144 --> 00:09:04,134 Speaker 1: set in its own world, but yeah, if you love 237 00:09:04,134 --> 00:09:06,264 Speaker 1: like that really classic old school animation. 238 00:09:06,343 --> 00:09:08,223 Speaker 1: Which I do, if you just love that world and 239 00:09:08,223 --> 00:09:10,783 Speaker 1: like how the Duffer brothers' minds work. And it was 240 00:09:10,783 --> 00:09:13,894 Speaker 1: made by a production company in Australia, cos like set 241 00:09:13,894 --> 00:09:15,983 Speaker 1: in Australia, I'm like, well, it's animation. And it's set 242 00:09:15,983 --> 00:09:18,054 Speaker 1: in Hawkins. But we can still claim it because we're 243 00:09:18,054 --> 00:09:20,374 Speaker 1: part of the making of it, so that's exciting. So 244 00:09:20,374 --> 00:09:22,824 Speaker 1: it's coming out in 2026, they didn't say, and like, yeah, 245 00:09:22,903 --> 00:09:25,574 Speaker 1: that's just a little heads up about what's coming up 246 00:09:25,574 --> 00:09:27,783 Speaker 1: on Netflix and what psychics have to say, which is 247 00:09:27,783 --> 00:09:29,163 Speaker 1: what people come to this pill for. 248 00:09:31,494 --> 00:09:33,864 Speaker 2: OK, a huge bomb has dropped this week in the 249 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:36,644 Speaker 2: maths world, the drama that just continues to give. We've 250 00:09:36,644 --> 00:09:40,304 Speaker 2: had a shock pregnancy and engagement announcement from one of 251 00:09:40,304 --> 00:09:41,843 Speaker 2: the brides, Brooke. 252 00:09:42,954 --> 00:09:45,184 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm sure, look, I'm, it's hard to think 253 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:47,564 Speaker 1: at this point in time people not understanding how reality 254 00:09:47,564 --> 00:09:49,833 Speaker 1: TV timelines work, but there are people out there who 255 00:09:49,833 --> 00:09:52,283 Speaker 1: are like, oh my God, she cheated on her fake 256 00:09:52,283 --> 00:09:54,514 Speaker 1: husband on the show or it just happened, like just 257 00:09:54,514 --> 00:09:57,153 Speaker 1: fake yeah, on her fake husband. No, no, no, it 258 00:09:57,153 --> 00:09:59,634 Speaker 1: was only last year that I realized a lot of people, 259 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:02,413 Speaker 1: including a lot of my colleagues, thought they got married 260 00:10:02,413 --> 00:10:04,273 Speaker 1: for real or married at first sight, so people do, 261 00:10:04,444 --> 00:10:07,473 Speaker 1: if you thought that, that's fine. I mean, it's not 262 00:10:07,473 --> 00:10:09,624 Speaker 1: really fine, but it's like it is what it is, like, 263 00:10:09,754 --> 00:10:12,114 Speaker 1: but no one's legally married. Yeah, no one's legally married. 264 00:10:12,293 --> 00:10:14,694 Speaker 1: Um, and also the show was filmed such a long 265 00:10:14,694 --> 00:10:15,064 Speaker 1: time ago, 266 00:10:15,213 --> 00:10:17,694 Speaker 2: so long ago, I think it was back in August. 267 00:10:18,204 --> 00:10:20,684 Speaker 2: It's a really long time ago now, so the timeline, 268 00:10:20,894 --> 00:10:22,614 Speaker 2: I was trying to like look at the timeline of 269 00:10:22,614 --> 00:10:24,333 Speaker 2: like when this would have happened and trying to, I 270 00:10:24,333 --> 00:10:25,733 Speaker 2: was also looking at the photo, I'm like how pregnant 271 00:10:25,733 --> 00:10:28,352 Speaker 2: is this, is this lady because she's also so skinny. 272 00:10:28,694 --> 00:10:30,324 Speaker 2: So I'm like I, I can't really gauge. It's 273 00:10:30,324 --> 00:10:32,843 Speaker 1: hard to know, and look, these rumors, she announced it herself, 274 00:10:32,894 --> 00:10:35,014 Speaker 1: but these rumors that she's pregnant have been out for 275 00:10:35,014 --> 00:10:37,173 Speaker 1: a long time, and we have seen the rumors for 276 00:10:37,173 --> 00:10:38,764 Speaker 1: a long time here at Mamma Mia, but I was like, 277 00:10:38,773 --> 00:10:41,413 Speaker 1: we did not run them because you can't, no matter 278 00:10:41,413 --> 00:10:41,814 Speaker 1: what you hear. 279 00:10:42,353 --> 00:10:44,343 Speaker 1: You should never print anything about a woman being pregnant 280 00:10:44,343 --> 00:10:46,093 Speaker 1: or not pregnant, but then she's come out and said it, 281 00:10:46,153 --> 00:10:46,874 Speaker 1: so now we can 282 00:10:46,874 --> 00:10:49,153 Speaker 2: talk about it. She has come out and confirmed, you know, 283 00:10:49,314 --> 00:10:51,954 Speaker 2: things didn't work out on maths. She hasn't left the 284 00:10:51,954 --> 00:10:54,934 Speaker 2: show yet, she's still in there, but I guess she 285 00:10:55,754 --> 00:10:58,223 Speaker 2: she fake left and came back to have some drama. 286 00:10:58,514 --> 00:11:00,273 Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't know where it's going now, but 287 00:11:00,273 --> 00:11:01,713 Speaker 2: it is a little bit of a spoiler, it's always 288 00:11:01,713 --> 00:11:04,394 Speaker 2: disappointing when you get a spoiler like this, and I 289 00:11:04,394 --> 00:11:07,634 Speaker 2: feel like production usually keeps it so under wraps, and 290 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:11,054 Speaker 2: it's highly confidential, you know, to keep people strung along 291 00:11:11,054 --> 00:11:11,473 Speaker 2: on these. 292 00:11:11,644 --> 00:11:15,093 Speaker 2: Narratives between the couples. So it's really interesting that Brooke 293 00:11:15,093 --> 00:11:17,694 Speaker 2: has come out to media to announce that, you know, 294 00:11:17,894 --> 00:11:21,963 Speaker 2: she's pregnant. She's actually rekindled with her ex, who she 295 00:11:21,963 --> 00:11:25,773 Speaker 2: was with before the show. They broke up just before 296 00:11:25,773 --> 00:11:29,684 Speaker 2: the show started filming, and then after leaving the show, 297 00:11:29,874 --> 00:11:34,574 Speaker 2: about 2 or 3 weeks after, they've then rekindled, got 298 00:11:34,574 --> 00:11:37,283 Speaker 2: them back together. I think they went on a Maldives trip, 299 00:11:37,343 --> 00:11:37,614 Speaker 2: which 300 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:38,124 Speaker 1: sounds lovely. 301 00:11:39,554 --> 00:11:39,564 Speaker 2: Look, 302 00:11:39,673 --> 00:11:41,134 Speaker 1: if anyone, if anyone asks me to marry them. 303 00:11:41,273 --> 00:11:42,874 Speaker 1: Maldives, I don't care who they are. I'm saying yes, 304 00:11:42,983 --> 00:11:46,514 Speaker 1: it's the Maldives or the Maldives as people say. Don't know, 305 00:11:46,673 --> 00:11:49,153 Speaker 1: never been. OK, I'm gonna ask a question which I 306 00:11:49,153 --> 00:11:51,353 Speaker 1: know is a bit unpopular, but I feel like it's 307 00:11:51,353 --> 00:11:54,663 Speaker 1: what the audience is asking. Do we think that there's 308 00:11:54,663 --> 00:11:58,033 Speaker 1: potentially a chance that Brooke never broke up with her 309 00:11:58,033 --> 00:12:01,434 Speaker 1: boyfriend and they remained together and she went on the show, 310 00:12:01,634 --> 00:12:03,144 Speaker 1: I guess to be on the show? 311 00:12:03,273 --> 00:12:05,853 Speaker 2: I feel like if we have to ask that question 312 00:12:05,853 --> 00:12:08,554 Speaker 2: for maths, like what are we doing? I think she 313 00:12:08,554 --> 00:12:09,973 Speaker 2: was with her guy all along. 314 00:12:10,153 --> 00:12:10,833 Speaker 1: I kind of do too. 315 00:12:11,054 --> 00:12:13,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there was even like that plot point where 316 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:16,634 Speaker 2: she'd slept with her ex like just days before entering 317 00:12:16,634 --> 00:12:19,954 Speaker 2: the experiment. That doesn't sound that final to me. 318 00:12:20,134 --> 00:12:22,514 Speaker 1: And you know what, no shade to this woman because 319 00:12:22,514 --> 00:12:25,454 Speaker 1: I understand wanting to go on TV and become famous 320 00:12:25,454 --> 00:12:28,494 Speaker 1: and make it work and potentially if she had been 321 00:12:28,494 --> 00:12:32,074 Speaker 1: paired with someone who never know love, well, exactly, maybe 322 00:12:32,074 --> 00:12:33,684 Speaker 1: she was like, look, maybe if this guy's gay, I'll 323 00:12:33,684 --> 00:12:35,814 Speaker 1: break up with my boyfriend, but I think if she'd 324 00:12:35,814 --> 00:12:37,773 Speaker 1: been paired with someone who was like really there for 325 00:12:37,773 --> 00:12:39,954 Speaker 1: love and really sweet, she might have come off as 326 00:12:39,954 --> 00:12:40,494 Speaker 1: a villain. 327 00:12:40,783 --> 00:12:43,793 Speaker 1: But because she was paired by a man who is 328 00:12:43,793 --> 00:12:47,114 Speaker 1: just disgusting, but also the biggest crime of all, dull 329 00:12:47,114 --> 00:12:49,593 Speaker 1: as dishwater, it's kind of OK. And it gave her 330 00:12:49,593 --> 00:12:52,653 Speaker 2: an out, because suddenly that became a really big thing 331 00:12:52,653 --> 00:12:55,793 Speaker 2: like his video where obviously he said some awful things, 332 00:12:56,194 --> 00:12:59,314 Speaker 2: but she really couldn't let that go, and I think 333 00:12:59,314 --> 00:13:02,504 Speaker 2: if someone was really in the experiment and showing interest, 334 00:13:02,533 --> 00:13:04,273 Speaker 2: because she was showing interest along the way, if that 335 00:13:04,273 --> 00:13:07,033 Speaker 2: was genuine, and I have seen a lot of people 336 00:13:07,033 --> 00:13:10,194 Speaker 2: online now picking her apart for not being genuine and, 337 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:13,864 Speaker 2: It's maths. I feel like we've gotta anticipate that people 338 00:13:13,864 --> 00:13:15,853 Speaker 2: go on there, not always for the right reasons, but 339 00:13:15,853 --> 00:13:18,223 Speaker 2: I think the issue is she's on the show calling 340 00:13:18,223 --> 00:13:21,064 Speaker 2: out other people for not being genuine, like she's so 341 00:13:21,064 --> 00:13:23,583 Speaker 2: angry at the other women for not being genuine in 342 00:13:23,583 --> 00:13:26,264 Speaker 2: their relationships, but I feel like she had a man's 343 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:26,804 Speaker 2: at home. 344 00:13:27,103 --> 00:13:28,694 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she was maybe like I'm not 345 00:13:28,694 --> 00:13:29,903 Speaker 1: here to get married, I'm here to. 346 00:13:30,009 --> 00:13:31,629 Speaker 1: Put on a show, I'm gonna put on a show. 347 00:13:32,088 --> 00:13:34,929 Speaker 1: It's kind of also interesting just how the whole cos 348 00:13:34,929 --> 00:13:37,078 Speaker 1: she's engaged too, right? They got 349 00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:37,538 Speaker 1: engaged, 350 00:13:37,668 --> 00:13:40,528 Speaker 2: so I think they found out they were pregnant in November. 351 00:13:40,728 --> 00:13:42,769 Speaker 2: She had a dream that she was pregnant and then 352 00:13:42,769 --> 00:13:45,968 Speaker 2: she did a pregnancy test. I'm like, OK. And then 353 00:13:45,968 --> 00:13:49,608 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, around Christmas, they were in Aspen. Again, 354 00:13:50,119 --> 00:13:50,509 Speaker 1: must be nice, 355 00:13:52,489 --> 00:13:52,569 Speaker 2: yeah, 356 00:13:52,648 --> 00:13:54,648 Speaker 1: who is this guy and does he go on and 357 00:13:54,648 --> 00:13:55,798 Speaker 1: does he have friends? Yeah, 358 00:13:55,889 --> 00:13:56,389 Speaker 2: hello. 359 00:13:56,913 --> 00:14:00,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got engaged on Christmas Day and now 360 00:14:00,733 --> 00:14:02,593 Speaker 2: they're just loving, loving each other sick. 361 00:14:02,754 --> 00:14:04,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's all very sweet and romantic, and I, 362 00:14:04,833 --> 00:14:07,273 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're very happy, which is lovely. I'm 363 00:14:07,273 --> 00:14:09,353 Speaker 1: interested in how it all unfolded because as you're saying, yes, 364 00:14:09,543 --> 00:14:11,233 Speaker 1: some people are upset because they're like, well now the 365 00:14:11,233 --> 00:14:13,663 Speaker 1: show is spoiled, but the thing is we've seen paparazzi 366 00:14:13,663 --> 00:14:15,954 Speaker 1: photos of other couples who are still together, so we 367 00:14:15,954 --> 00:14:17,954 Speaker 1: know how they end. It's kind of hard cos on 368 00:14:17,954 --> 00:14:20,833 Speaker 1: shows like The Bachelor, you film the final and we 369 00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:21,394 Speaker 1: know they fly. 370 00:14:21,494 --> 00:14:25,054 Speaker 1: The two couples separately, different locations, and then they get 371 00:14:25,054 --> 00:14:26,694 Speaker 1: to like go to the same location and like have 372 00:14:26,694 --> 00:14:29,173 Speaker 1: their first proper hookup, and then they have to live 373 00:14:29,173 --> 00:14:31,333 Speaker 1: separately and they're like once every two months they take 374 00:14:31,333 --> 00:14:33,773 Speaker 1: a flight to see each other or something like that 375 00:14:33,773 --> 00:14:36,213 Speaker 1: and like it's very secretive, but I guess that you 376 00:14:36,213 --> 00:14:39,134 Speaker 1: can't keep all these couples separate for the many, many, 377 00:14:39,173 --> 00:14:39,533 Speaker 1: many months. 378 00:14:39,614 --> 00:14:40,403 Speaker 2: Well, it's similar to Love 379 00:14:40,403 --> 00:14:41,603 Speaker 2: Island, so 380 00:14:41,603 --> 00:14:42,213 Speaker 1: yeah, what do you do after 381 00:14:42,213 --> 00:14:46,064 Speaker 2: Love Island? Love Island, I remember after I won. 382 00:14:47,163 --> 00:14:52,394 Speaker 2: They like oh my God, I always forget that body shivers. 383 00:14:52,403 --> 00:14:52,704 Speaker 1: That's important. 384 00:14:53,614 --> 00:14:55,923 Speaker 2: I remember they like took us, like all the cameras 385 00:14:55,923 --> 00:14:58,364 Speaker 2: were gone, everything like packed really quickly down and then 386 00:14:58,364 --> 00:15:00,903 Speaker 2: they gave us a form and it was like a romantic, 387 00:15:01,454 --> 00:15:03,043 Speaker 2: so romantic and then we got a form. It was 388 00:15:03,043 --> 00:15:04,894 Speaker 2: like a bit of like an NDA like you know, 389 00:15:05,014 --> 00:15:07,293 Speaker 2: that you wouldn't be like seen with each other. 390 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:10,429 Speaker 2: Which everyone just kind of signed and then you'd 391 00:15:10,429 --> 00:15:13,298 Speaker 1: already signed like 20,000 documents leading up to this, right. 392 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:17,408 Speaker 2: So I think it was then just like sign this 393 00:15:17,408 --> 00:15:19,949 Speaker 2: but use your best judgment. So we were pretty good, 394 00:15:20,028 --> 00:15:22,228 Speaker 2: we like, and we only had 2 weeks to do it, 395 00:15:22,309 --> 00:15:22,418 Speaker 2: so 396 00:15:22,418 --> 00:15:24,208 Speaker 1: it's you can do it for 2 weeks. 2 weeks 397 00:15:24,208 --> 00:15:24,389 Speaker 1: is 398 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:25,439 Speaker 2: fine, just put a cap on. 399 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, 400 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:25,908 Speaker 1: put 401 00:15:25,908 --> 00:15:26,028 Speaker 2: a 402 00:15:26,028 --> 00:15:26,148 Speaker 1: cap 403 00:15:26,148 --> 00:15:26,278 Speaker 2: on. 404 00:15:26,408 --> 00:15:27,278 Speaker 1: Wait, did you, but did you go out together? 405 00:15:28,273 --> 00:15:29,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, we, but we 406 00:15:29,114 --> 00:15:30,273 Speaker 1: would just did you not get papped? 407 00:15:30,394 --> 00:15:32,793 Speaker 2: We're not out out, we would just go to like, also, 408 00:15:32,994 --> 00:15:36,033 Speaker 2: how did I not get papped, didn't call anyone. Well, 409 00:15:36,074 --> 00:15:39,153 Speaker 1: wow, well, so fair enough. Yeah, but like no one 410 00:15:39,153 --> 00:15:41,114 Speaker 1: took photos of you at events because I didn't 411 00:15:41,114 --> 00:15:43,533 Speaker 2: go to events. We literally just got, it was two weeks. 412 00:15:43,673 --> 00:15:46,704 Speaker 2: I'm very like trust the process. I like didn't tell 413 00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:48,074 Speaker 2: my friends I was back. Like I 414 00:15:48,074 --> 00:15:49,634 Speaker 1: actually this is why you didn't get found out because 415 00:15:49,634 --> 00:15:50,583 Speaker 1: you play by the rules, 416 00:15:50,954 --> 00:15:51,074 Speaker 2: but 417 00:15:51,074 --> 00:15:53,793 Speaker 2: other people have made so much money. Yeah, damn. 418 00:15:54,744 --> 00:15:57,184 Speaker 1: No, it's worked out well. Yeah, that's crazy. So, but 419 00:15:57,184 --> 00:15:58,184 Speaker 1: also for two weeks. 420 00:15:58,423 --> 00:16:01,663 Speaker 2: It's different than the pre-production time and the lead time 421 00:16:01,663 --> 00:16:04,264 Speaker 2: is so much longer for maths. So if you actually 422 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:06,824 Speaker 2: were dating someone or you've got something going with someone 423 00:16:06,824 --> 00:16:09,023 Speaker 2: else in the cast, to expect them to hold onto 424 00:16:09,023 --> 00:16:12,213 Speaker 2: that for over 6 months, especially when they all want attention. Yeah, 425 00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:15,223 Speaker 1: exactly, and it's kind of interesting with Brooke because one 426 00:16:15,223 --> 00:16:17,704 Speaker 1: of the reasons, like, obviously the pregnancy rumors were around 427 00:16:17,704 --> 00:16:18,663 Speaker 1: for a while and some, 428 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:20,999 Speaker 1: Outlets ran it and we didn't, but we knew something 429 00:16:20,999 --> 00:16:22,759 Speaker 1: was going on because we interview a lot of the 430 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:25,119 Speaker 1: cast here at Bun Mia and Brooke was the one 431 00:16:25,119 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: who was like through 9 through communications and stuff, never 432 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,759 Speaker 1: available for interview. And so I don't know what was 433 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:32,869 Speaker 1: going on there, whether she didn't want to do interviews 434 00:16:32,869 --> 00:16:34,999 Speaker 1: with us and other people or they were sort of 435 00:16:34,999 --> 00:16:36,710 Speaker 1: holding them. There's a lot of, there's a lot of back, 436 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,879 Speaker 1: it could be anything, so it's fine, but it's interesting 437 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:41,119 Speaker 1: that she, she went to Women's Day, right, and did 438 00:16:41,119 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: like an exclusive with them. 439 00:16:43,325 --> 00:16:49,126 Speaker 1: Which seems potentially outside of the mass publicity machine. So 440 00:16:49,126 --> 00:16:51,405 Speaker 1: maybe she's kind of gone rogue or maybe it was unprecedented, 441 00:16:51,455 --> 00:16:53,366 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what happened, but it's interesting. 442 00:16:53,655 --> 00:16:56,296 Speaker 2: So interesting to see, like I don't, it's just like 443 00:16:56,296 --> 00:16:58,376 Speaker 2: the gift that keeps on giving and I'm so intrigued 444 00:16:58,376 --> 00:17:00,736 Speaker 2: now like if she's staying on the show, when is 445 00:17:00,736 --> 00:17:03,135 Speaker 2: she leaving. I've also seen that they were saying there 446 00:17:03,135 --> 00:17:06,015 Speaker 2: was an off-camera moment they had which led her to 447 00:17:06,014 --> 00:17:07,616 Speaker 2: leave the show, which we haven't seen. 448 00:17:08,032 --> 00:17:09,833 Speaker 2: So I don't know if there'll be any more info 449 00:17:09,833 --> 00:17:12,233 Speaker 2: on that that goes to the screen or if we're 450 00:17:12,233 --> 00:17:12,874 Speaker 2: just gonna have 451 00:17:12,874 --> 00:17:13,374 Speaker 2: to. 452 00:17:13,794 --> 00:17:16,103 Speaker 1: It's interesting how I felt they tried to almost give 453 00:17:16,103 --> 00:17:19,352 Speaker 1: like Chris a redemption arc, her partner on the show, 454 00:17:19,394 --> 00:17:22,034 Speaker 1: or he tried to give himself one in the moment 455 00:17:22,034 --> 00:17:25,114 Speaker 1: where after she had left, and whether she left because 456 00:17:25,114 --> 00:17:26,634 Speaker 1: she had a partner on the outside or she saw 457 00:17:26,634 --> 00:17:28,832 Speaker 1: his audition video and was like, I don't wanna be. 458 00:17:28,953 --> 00:17:31,494 Speaker 1: Around this man, fair enough, fair enough. It's the thing 459 00:17:31,494 --> 00:17:34,374 Speaker 1: is his audition video wasn't just because he said things, 460 00:17:34,733 --> 00:17:36,534 Speaker 1: he said things that a lot of people say out loud, 461 00:17:36,693 --> 00:17:38,453 Speaker 1: they're awful, but it's just how people talk of like, 462 00:17:38,494 --> 00:17:40,052 Speaker 1: I don't like fat people, I don't like people who 463 00:17:40,053 --> 00:17:42,414 Speaker 1: do this, I don't like that. That's awful, but he 464 00:17:42,414 --> 00:17:44,213 Speaker 1: also just came across with this like, 465 00:17:45,024 --> 00:17:48,683 Speaker 1: Terrible demeanor of like, cos there's there's there's some reality 466 00:17:48,683 --> 00:17:51,703 Speaker 1: TV villains who say awful things and problematic things, and 467 00:17:51,703 --> 00:17:53,544 Speaker 1: not that this excuses it, but they also have like 468 00:17:53,544 --> 00:17:57,144 Speaker 1: an on-screen charisma or a personality or they're entertaining, and 469 00:17:57,144 --> 00:17:59,983 Speaker 1: his biggest flaw is that he's an awful person and 470 00:17:59,983 --> 00:18:02,473 Speaker 1: he also has no charisma and is not entertaining. Yeah, 471 00:18:02,583 --> 00:18:03,473 Speaker 2: there's nothing relatable 472 00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:08,603 Speaker 2: redemption. I just think he intrinsically has really poor values 473 00:18:08,733 --> 00:18:12,144 Speaker 2: and even during intimacy Week, you know, he was tasked 474 00:18:12,144 --> 00:18:14,343 Speaker 2: to do something special for Brooke, so he just, 475 00:18:14,764 --> 00:18:16,832 Speaker 2: Sets up a bath and a bottle of bubbles, I'm like, 476 00:18:16,843 --> 00:18:18,624 Speaker 2: you just wanted to get in the bath while you 477 00:18:18,624 --> 00:18:19,343 Speaker 2: stand there, 478 00:18:20,313 --> 00:18:20,404 Speaker 1: she was like I'm not doing that. 479 00:18:21,563 --> 00:18:23,644 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he goes, obviously I'm hoping to get 480 00:18:23,644 --> 00:18:24,763 Speaker 2: something like in return. 481 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:27,764 Speaker 1: Obviously, that's the thing, it's like the demeanor of like, 482 00:18:27,833 --> 00:18:29,644 Speaker 1: I can understand why that woman wanted to get the 483 00:18:29,644 --> 00:18:31,343 Speaker 1: hell out of there, the idea of like this man, 484 00:18:31,563 --> 00:18:33,764 Speaker 1: normally he was setting that up because he's like, if 485 00:18:33,764 --> 00:18:36,384 Speaker 1: I do this then you must give me this. Get 486 00:18:36,384 --> 00:18:38,443 Speaker 1: in the bath, yeah, kind of a thing, like I 487 00:18:38,443 --> 00:18:40,364 Speaker 1: get such creepy vibes from him, and I know some 488 00:18:40,364 --> 00:18:42,483 Speaker 1: people were like, oh, seeing him go in the car 489 00:18:42,483 --> 00:18:44,203 Speaker 1: and he was getting upset, he was crying. 490 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:46,733 Speaker 1: And I think that's his own ego, yeah, I think 491 00:18:46,953 --> 00:18:48,233 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, maybe this is a 492 00:18:48,233 --> 00:18:50,233 Speaker 1: really good moment for this man who I think has 493 00:18:50,233 --> 00:18:53,674 Speaker 1: never had any sort of like hardship, emotion, had to 494 00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:55,832 Speaker 1: think of anything, has like, I don't know how he 495 00:18:55,833 --> 00:18:58,333 Speaker 1: was raised, lots of questions there, don't really care to know. 496 00:18:58,994 --> 00:19:01,394 Speaker 1: Something intrinsically in him has made him not be like 497 00:19:01,394 --> 00:19:03,953 Speaker 1: a part of like the proper fabric of society and 498 00:19:03,953 --> 00:19:06,833 Speaker 1: it's weird that Married at First Sight has done that 499 00:19:06,833 --> 00:19:07,233 Speaker 1: for him. 500 00:19:07,353 --> 00:19:07,514 Speaker 2: I 501 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:10,233 Speaker 2: know it's good that he's getting to experience a full 502 00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:13,134 Speaker 2: range of emotions and not bottling it down, but I worry. 503 00:19:13,424 --> 00:19:15,803 Speaker 2: that now it's aired and he's probably gonna like cop 504 00:19:15,803 --> 00:19:16,203 Speaker 2: a lot. But I 505 00:19:16,203 --> 00:19:16,322 Speaker 1: don't 506 00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:18,483 Speaker 1: think his emotions were like, I saw people saying like, 507 00:19:18,514 --> 00:19:20,404 Speaker 1: oh my God, he's crying, this is actually really good 508 00:19:20,404 --> 00:19:22,323 Speaker 1: cos men should cry. I'm like that man is crying 509 00:19:22,323 --> 00:19:23,483 Speaker 1: because he's angry. He 510 00:19:23,483 --> 00:19:24,274 Speaker 2: doesn't even know why he's 511 00:19:24,274 --> 00:19:26,364 Speaker 1: cry. He's not crying because he feels bad about how 512 00:19:26,364 --> 00:19:29,043 Speaker 1: he behaved, he's crying because he thinks he's been wronged 513 00:19:29,284 --> 00:19:32,343 Speaker 1: and that's very scary and embarrassed. Yeah, and he's embarrassed. 514 00:19:32,683 --> 00:19:35,404 Speaker 1: And there's nothing more scary than an embarrassed man really 515 00:19:35,404 --> 00:19:37,124 Speaker 1: because they're the ones that lash out the most. Someone 516 00:19:37,124 --> 00:19:39,683 Speaker 1: needs to watch him. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so he said 517 00:19:39,683 --> 00:19:42,063 Speaker 1: he's working on himself. I hope that's true. 518 00:19:42,494 --> 00:19:45,023 Speaker 1: It's probably not, but I'm sure he'll fade from obscurity 519 00:19:45,024 --> 00:19:45,544 Speaker 1: quite soon, 520 00:19:45,563 --> 00:19:46,343 Speaker 2: and I wonder if they're gonna 521 00:19:46,343 --> 00:19:48,154 Speaker 2: bring him some like someone else in for him. 522 00:19:48,884 --> 00:19:52,102 Speaker 1: Oh, they are, they do have intruders coming soon, so 523 00:19:52,103 --> 00:19:54,203 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's the timeline, I think, 524 00:19:54,223 --> 00:19:55,034 Speaker 1: um what we're gonna, 525 00:19:55,044 --> 00:19:55,053 Speaker 2: yeah, 526 00:19:56,544 --> 00:19:58,823 Speaker 1: I hope not. Let that man go. He's again, his 527 00:19:58,823 --> 00:20:00,144 Speaker 1: biggest sin, he's not good on TV. 528 00:20:00,264 --> 00:20:01,524 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're bored. 529 00:20:04,014 --> 00:20:06,904 Speaker 1: OK, well, after that, moving on to the rest of 530 00:20:06,904 --> 00:20:09,424 Speaker 1: Married at First Sight this week because now we're really 531 00:20:09,424 --> 00:20:11,904 Speaker 1: in the thick of it. We had intimacy week, a 532 00:20:11,904 --> 00:20:15,302 Speaker 1: whole big dinner party situation. Before we get into some 533 00:20:15,303 --> 00:20:17,513 Speaker 1: of the bigger storylines this week, quick check-in on one 534 00:20:17,514 --> 00:20:21,424 Speaker 1: of our controversial couples that has had a wild rebrand 535 00:20:21,424 --> 00:20:22,823 Speaker 1: this week, and that's Mel and 536 00:20:22,823 --> 00:20:25,014 Speaker 2: Luke. Oh my God, they've turned it around. I'm here 537 00:20:25,014 --> 00:20:27,424 Speaker 2: for the redemption arc. I always thought there was something 538 00:20:27,424 --> 00:20:28,723 Speaker 2: we weren't quite seeing. 539 00:20:29,303 --> 00:20:29,384 Speaker 2: Well, 540 00:20:29,463 --> 00:20:31,183 Speaker 1: no, apparently there's not. 541 00:20:31,499 --> 00:20:33,489 Speaker 1: So I got one of the writers on my team 542 00:20:33,489 --> 00:20:36,289 Speaker 1: at Mummy on my entertainment team talked to Mel and 543 00:20:36,448 --> 00:20:38,328 Speaker 1: said to her multiple times, cos the same thing in 544 00:20:38,328 --> 00:20:40,889 Speaker 1: the office, we're like, we don't want to dislike this 545 00:20:40,889 --> 00:20:44,009 Speaker 1: woman and hate her behavior, so we must not be 546 00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:47,129 Speaker 1: seeing something. So we thought that too. So we asked 547 00:20:47,129 --> 00:20:50,478 Speaker 1: her on in an interview, is there something we're missing? 548 00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:52,648 Speaker 1: Has Luke done something to you? Cause that's what I 549 00:20:52,649 --> 00:20:54,289 Speaker 1: was thinking too when she said he's making my life 550 00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:57,249 Speaker 1: a living hell. Is there something big we didn't see, 551 00:20:57,259 --> 00:20:58,509 Speaker 2: expecting her to chill. 552 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:01,083 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she was like, no, you see it all. 553 00:21:01,353 --> 00:21:03,023 Speaker 1: I just was like, I just wasn't feeling it, so 554 00:21:03,024 --> 00:21:04,473 Speaker 1: I was like, well, fair enough, I guess. 555 00:21:04,593 --> 00:21:08,543 Speaker 2: Also, something she did apologize for this week, she mentions that, 556 00:21:08,794 --> 00:21:11,333 Speaker 2: you know, she was waiting 10 minutes at the aisle, sorry, 557 00:21:11,794 --> 00:21:12,343 Speaker 2: 10 minutes. 558 00:21:12,644 --> 00:21:12,994 Speaker 2: Is that it? 559 00:21:13,193 --> 00:21:14,833 Speaker 1: Remember how when we saw that we thought it was 560 00:21:14,833 --> 00:21:15,783 Speaker 1: at least 1 hour, 561 00:21:15,874 --> 00:21:16,754 Speaker 2: 45 minutes 562 00:21:16,754 --> 00:21:17,593 Speaker 2: for longer than 10 563 00:21:17,593 --> 00:21:18,864 Speaker 2: minutes on the show. 564 00:21:19,193 --> 00:21:21,473 Speaker 1: That, yeah, that was also, I was like, girl, you're 565 00:21:21,473 --> 00:21:23,723 Speaker 1: not helping yourself. When she was like, I waited for 566 00:21:23,723 --> 00:21:25,953 Speaker 1: 10 minutes, I was like, OK, 10 minutes, there's a world. 567 00:21:26,058 --> 00:21:28,058 Speaker 1: But we all believed that was over an hour and 568 00:21:28,058 --> 00:21:29,739 Speaker 1: we had a lot more sympathy for you, you were 569 00:21:29,739 --> 00:21:32,898 Speaker 1: digging yourself a grave. What I actually think has happened 570 00:21:32,899 --> 00:21:35,489 Speaker 1: here is that she did think before she got the 571 00:21:35,489 --> 00:21:37,338 Speaker 1: feedback from the judges and the other contestants, she was 572 00:21:37,338 --> 00:21:40,619 Speaker 1: in a different version of the show where she was 573 00:21:40,619 --> 00:21:43,208 Speaker 1: the one who was like putting down this bad man 574 00:21:43,419 --> 00:21:45,698 Speaker 1: and she was standing up for herself and for women 575 00:21:45,698 --> 00:21:47,418 Speaker 1: in general. You know how sometimes really people think they 576 00:21:47,419 --> 00:21:48,708 Speaker 1: like get into like a like 577 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:48,898 Speaker 2: putting a 578 00:21:48,899 --> 00:21:50,818 Speaker 2: boundary across, I think it is hard, you're put in 579 00:21:50,818 --> 00:21:53,338 Speaker 2: a situation with a man, if you don't like him. 580 00:21:53,754 --> 00:21:55,713 Speaker 2: It, it would be hard I imagine to like 581 00:21:55,713 --> 00:21:56,833 Speaker 2: force yourself to like him. 582 00:21:56,914 --> 00:21:58,593 Speaker 1: I think it was two things that she didn't like him, 583 00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:00,733 Speaker 1: she didn't like being in the situation, she acted badly, 584 00:22:00,874 --> 00:22:03,114 Speaker 1: fair enough, I feel like most of us would. And 585 00:22:03,114 --> 00:22:05,473 Speaker 1: then she also thought she was coming across as like 586 00:22:05,473 --> 00:22:06,453 Speaker 1: a strong woman. 587 00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:09,062 Speaker 1: And then when she got the feedback from the, cos 588 00:22:09,063 --> 00:22:10,544 Speaker 1: I guess you're not getting feedback from the audience at 589 00:22:10,544 --> 00:22:12,264 Speaker 1: the time, when she got the feedback from the judges 590 00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:14,744 Speaker 1: and the other contestants where they were appalled by her behavior, 591 00:22:15,384 --> 00:22:16,703 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she's like, oh my God, 592 00:22:16,784 --> 00:22:19,343 Speaker 1: I'm actually the villain. I need to change my edit, 593 00:22:19,384 --> 00:22:23,933 Speaker 1: and her behavior, it's quite scary slash impressive. Her behavior 594 00:22:23,933 --> 00:22:23,953 Speaker 1: is crazy. 595 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,264 Speaker 2: I think she probably has a little bit more like 596 00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:31,263 Speaker 2: empathy for Luke and seeing him have that moment where, 597 00:22:31,463 --> 00:22:33,664 Speaker 2: you know, he cried and like broke down a little bit. 598 00:22:33,703 --> 00:22:36,323 Speaker 2: I liked that he was able to like show that vulnerability. 599 00:22:36,963 --> 00:22:38,723 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of rooting for them 600 00:22:38,723 --> 00:22:39,004 Speaker 2: now. 601 00:22:39,124 --> 00:22:41,044 Speaker 1: And oh we do, I mean we don't know for sure, 602 00:22:41,083 --> 00:22:43,463 Speaker 1: but it kind of looks like they potentially aren't together 603 00:22:44,284 --> 00:22:46,203 Speaker 1: now the show's finished, that's not a spoiler cos I 604 00:22:46,203 --> 00:22:48,103 Speaker 1: literally do not know, I don't know these people, I 605 00:22:48,103 --> 00:22:50,994 Speaker 1: don't trust any sources, but if he is single, God, 606 00:22:51,044 --> 00:22:52,823 Speaker 1: that man's gonna have women lining up for, 607 00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:55,764 Speaker 2: maybe he's on The Bachelor next. That's exactly 608 00:22:55,764 --> 00:22:57,803 Speaker 1: the kind of thing they would do. Or like just 609 00:22:57,803 --> 00:23:00,053 Speaker 1: a farmer wants a wife and it's just everyone going 610 00:23:00,053 --> 00:23:02,644 Speaker 1: to his farm. I'd watch that show. I think that 611 00:23:02,644 --> 00:23:04,674 Speaker 1: way I'd go on that show. Oh no, no, 612 00:23:04,754 --> 00:23:06,063 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be going to the farm the line. 613 00:23:07,049 --> 00:23:07,328 Speaker 2: Farm. 614 00:23:07,448 --> 00:23:09,769 Speaker 1: What if it was like a vineyard or something with goats? 615 00:23:09,808 --> 00:23:11,129 Speaker 1: That feels like a different show. Yeah, it does. Yeah. 616 00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:14,708 Speaker 1: And there's a helicopter to like drop me into Sydney. Yeah, 617 00:23:15,009 --> 00:23:17,568 Speaker 1: that one I would do. So interested to know what 618 00:23:17,568 --> 00:23:21,078 Speaker 1: personalities those two will take on next week. Stay tuned. OK, 619 00:23:21,208 --> 00:23:24,409 Speaker 1: another big storyline from this week was Rachel and Steve, 620 00:23:24,509 --> 00:23:27,808 Speaker 1: our sweet couple who kind of came apart in intimacy Week. 621 00:23:28,129 --> 00:23:29,489 Speaker 2: Oh, I've been waiting for something bad. 622 00:23:29,644 --> 00:23:32,203 Speaker 2: Happened for those two. They were just so sweet and 623 00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:35,203 Speaker 2: like I feel like I'm being set up here watching 624 00:23:35,203 --> 00:23:36,644 Speaker 2: these two sad people. Yeah, 625 00:23:36,803 --> 00:23:39,963 Speaker 1: so her whole thing was the Love Actually thing, which 626 00:23:39,963 --> 00:23:42,323 Speaker 1: can I say, I know many a time people have 627 00:23:42,323 --> 00:23:45,264 Speaker 1: tried to recreate that Love Actually scene. They should stop 628 00:23:45,264 --> 00:23:47,644 Speaker 1: in real life, in pop culture moments, it never goes 629 00:23:47,644 --> 00:23:47,843 Speaker 1: well. 630 00:23:48,154 --> 00:23:50,924 Speaker 2: She had a pink blindfold on and she's dropping the 631 00:23:50,924 --> 00:23:52,323 Speaker 2: cards like I'm like girl. 632 00:23:52,438 --> 00:23:54,477 Speaker 2: Well this, I'm sure in your head it was 633 00:23:54,478 --> 00:23:59,088 Speaker 1: romantic, but in practice it's like Andrew Lincoln barely pulled 634 00:23:59,088 --> 00:24:00,568 Speaker 1: it off, so no-one else could pull it off there, 635 00:24:00,639 --> 00:24:03,177 Speaker 1: but I understand what she wanted because she was just like, OK, 636 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:05,519 Speaker 1: we get along, we chat, but like I'm not here 637 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:07,779 Speaker 1: just to like get through the weeks with a friend, 638 00:24:07,999 --> 00:24:10,649 Speaker 1: we're either gonna kiss and have passion or we're not. 639 00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:14,379 Speaker 1: And I felt so like a secondhand vulnerability for her 640 00:24:14,379 --> 00:24:15,218 Speaker 1: in that moment. 641 00:24:15,624 --> 00:24:18,674 Speaker 1: Where she was kind of staying there blindfold, pulling back 642 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:21,073 Speaker 1: the cards, knowing there's a whole production team in the room, 643 00:24:21,193 --> 00:24:22,233 Speaker 1: not being able to see 644 00:24:22,233 --> 00:24:26,233 Speaker 2: his, his reaction, you're kind of like laying it all 645 00:24:26,233 --> 00:24:28,674 Speaker 2: out there, putting all your cards on the table and 646 00:24:28,674 --> 00:24:31,713 Speaker 2: coming off the back where they've just, you know, chosen 647 00:24:31,713 --> 00:24:34,813 Speaker 2: to stay, he had an opportunity to say how he felt. 648 00:24:35,114 --> 00:24:38,053 Speaker 2: He's been gushing over her, saying how great they get along, 649 00:24:38,424 --> 00:24:41,073 Speaker 2: not once has he ever said that he felt no passion, 650 00:24:41,274 --> 00:24:41,794 Speaker 2: no spark. 651 00:24:42,274 --> 00:24:44,514 Speaker 2: So that is a real bomb to drop when someone 652 00:24:44,514 --> 00:24:46,023 Speaker 2: has just laid their cards on the table. 653 00:24:46,233 --> 00:24:48,833 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I've seen people start to really turn a 654 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:51,463 Speaker 1: bit on Steven this week, which I find interesting of like, 655 00:24:51,514 --> 00:24:54,013 Speaker 1: at first he was the nice sweet guy, desperate to 656 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,874 Speaker 1: in love, so shy, so awkward. I don't know if 657 00:24:56,874 --> 00:24:59,473 Speaker 1: he lives with his mum, but kind of spiritually he 658 00:24:59,473 --> 00:25:03,193 Speaker 1: lives with his mum. But yeah, in this economy, but yeah, 659 00:25:03,394 --> 00:25:05,553 Speaker 1: more so that it does, he's like I only hang 660 00:25:05,553 --> 00:25:06,894 Speaker 1: out with my mum, and I think even a mum 661 00:25:06,894 --> 00:25:08,233 Speaker 1: would agree that that's a red flag. 662 00:25:08,603 --> 00:25:11,614 Speaker 1: And so I think like his grace period is kind 663 00:25:11,614 --> 00:25:13,654 Speaker 1: of starting to like wane a little bit with people 664 00:25:13,654 --> 00:25:15,644 Speaker 1: being like, but he's just talking in circles, he's not 665 00:25:15,644 --> 00:25:16,443 Speaker 1: giving her anything giving him too much 666 00:25:16,443 --> 00:25:19,514 Speaker 2: credit. I don't think he has any experience with women. 667 00:25:19,853 --> 00:25:21,213 Speaker 2: I don't think this man knows what he's doing, why 668 00:25:21,213 --> 00:25:22,414 Speaker 2: are we expecting him to know? 669 00:25:22,614 --> 00:25:24,614 Speaker 1: Here's the thing too, it's like at first I thought 670 00:25:24,614 --> 00:25:27,572 Speaker 1: they were quite well paired because my biggest fear when 671 00:25:27,573 --> 00:25:29,483 Speaker 1: we first saw her staying in the aisle and being 672 00:25:29,483 --> 00:25:32,014 Speaker 1: so hopeful and talking about how many times she'd been rejected. 673 00:25:32,703 --> 00:25:35,062 Speaker 1: My first thought was like if they pair her with 674 00:25:35,063 --> 00:25:37,384 Speaker 1: a shitty man who who they know is gonna treat 675 00:25:37,384 --> 00:25:39,744 Speaker 1: her badly just to get a big reaction, like they 676 00:25:39,744 --> 00:25:41,343 Speaker 1: had done with Katie the year before, I was like 677 00:25:41,343 --> 00:25:43,433 Speaker 1: I'm switching this off. I don't even care that I'm 678 00:25:43,983 --> 00:25:46,943 Speaker 1: like in my employment depends on me watching it. I 679 00:25:46,943 --> 00:25:47,183 Speaker 1: was like 680 00:25:47,183 --> 00:25:50,183 Speaker 2: actually I will continue, but morally I'm, 681 00:25:50,343 --> 00:25:52,544 Speaker 1: I would have been like, I'm just find another job. 682 00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:55,624 Speaker 1: I have zero other marketable skills apart from talking into 683 00:25:55,624 --> 00:25:56,342 Speaker 1: this microphone. 684 00:25:56,420 --> 00:25:57,939 Speaker 1: It was a bit of an empty threat. But so 685 00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:00,579 Speaker 1: the fact that they had that sweet marriage was really lovely. 686 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:03,020 Speaker 1: But now I'm just like, maybe it really was the 687 00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: wrong thing to pair two such inexperienced and insecure people together, 688 00:26:08,219 --> 00:26:09,978 Speaker 1: because now they're kind of feeding off each other and 689 00:26:09,979 --> 00:26:11,700 Speaker 1: you almost need one of them to take the lead 690 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:12,209 Speaker 1: a little bit. 691 00:26:12,379 --> 00:26:14,300 Speaker 2: I think Rachel came in, you know, saying that she 692 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:17,300 Speaker 2: had this like, confidence, but we've seen time and time 693 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,660 Speaker 2: again that she is still insecure and she kind of 694 00:26:19,660 --> 00:26:20,420 Speaker 2: hasn't really. 695 00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:23,375 Speaker 2: Found that love for herself and he's the same, and 696 00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:26,255 Speaker 2: I just don't think if you don't have that self-assurance 697 00:26:26,255 --> 00:26:28,976 Speaker 2: in yourself, how can you be with another partner? and 698 00:26:28,976 --> 00:26:31,775 Speaker 2: now we're starting to see how that plays out. I 699 00:26:31,775 --> 00:26:34,975 Speaker 2: also think you're going on Married at First Sight. Surely 700 00:26:34,976 --> 00:26:37,615 Speaker 2: you expect that you're gonna be kissing people and you're 701 00:26:37,615 --> 00:26:39,855 Speaker 2: prepared to like have that moment. I know in the 702 00:26:39,855 --> 00:26:41,936 Speaker 2: real world you would never like kiss someone you're not 703 00:26:41,936 --> 00:26:43,836 Speaker 2: into or like be put in a position. 704 00:26:45,723 --> 00:26:47,443 Speaker 1: We all do it right. We all do it, but 705 00:26:47,443 --> 00:26:48,624 Speaker 1: that's our burden to bear. 706 00:26:49,593 --> 00:26:52,433 Speaker 1: Modern dating is awful. Yeah. The only people who are 707 00:26:52,433 --> 00:26:54,513 Speaker 1: watching Married at First Sight, like that's awful having to 708 00:26:54,514 --> 00:26:56,073 Speaker 1: kiss that guy, and I'm like, well, if you're out 709 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,914 Speaker 1: there in the trenches, maybe that's just a Friday night. Fine, 710 00:26:58,994 --> 00:27:02,072 Speaker 1: we'll go on, fine. Here's a question though. As much 711 00:27:02,073 --> 00:27:03,833 Speaker 1: as I felt for her when she held that sign 712 00:27:03,833 --> 00:27:05,914 Speaker 1: and said kiss me, and I also thought like there's 713 00:27:05,914 --> 00:27:07,874 Speaker 1: a lot of vulnerability in that moment, and she was 714 00:27:07,874 --> 00:27:10,994 Speaker 1: the one taking charge, do you think he should have 715 00:27:10,994 --> 00:27:13,774 Speaker 1: kissed her regardless of the fact that he didn't feel it? 716 00:27:13,953 --> 00:27:14,313 Speaker 2: I don't 717 00:27:14,313 --> 00:27:16,394 Speaker 2: think so. I think he just told her at the 718 00:27:16,394 --> 00:27:18,894 Speaker 2: wrong time, like, and I don't think anyone should feel, 719 00:27:19,364 --> 00:27:22,114 Speaker 2: Pressured, even though you should expect that you're gonna have 720 00:27:22,114 --> 00:27:24,343 Speaker 2: to kiss some people you may not find the love 721 00:27:24,343 --> 00:27:27,233 Speaker 2: of your life, yeah, I just don't think he should 722 00:27:27,233 --> 00:27:29,513 Speaker 2: have had to have done that, and I like that 723 00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:32,193 Speaker 2: he did have that moment, because I'm sure he was 724 00:27:32,193 --> 00:27:34,312 Speaker 2: scared to share how he felt. Like he's obviously put 725 00:27:34,313 --> 00:27:35,994 Speaker 2: it off to the down to the wire and then 726 00:27:35,994 --> 00:27:38,703 Speaker 2: gone crap, I need to tell her now, and he 727 00:27:38,703 --> 00:27:42,312 Speaker 2: obviously respects her enough to have that moment, unlike, you know, 728 00:27:42,394 --> 00:27:44,803 Speaker 2: I feel like some of the other grooms, like Danny saying, 729 00:27:44,874 --> 00:27:45,713 Speaker 2: you know, you, 730 00:27:45,978 --> 00:27:48,947 Speaker 2: just kiss her, which is totally revealing what he's done 731 00:27:48,948 --> 00:27:49,427 Speaker 2: in his 732 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:50,188 Speaker 2: life. 733 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:52,889 Speaker 1: This is, this show is such a fine line between 734 00:27:52,889 --> 00:27:55,598 Speaker 1: like entertaining me and horrifying me. Because here's the thing, 735 00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:58,549 Speaker 1: after that scene, I was reading all the comments and 736 00:27:58,549 --> 00:28:01,068 Speaker 1: the TikToks and like really looking at the reaction from 737 00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:03,348 Speaker 1: people and a lot of people were really angry that 738 00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:05,348 Speaker 1: he didn't kiss her. They felt that he was being 739 00:28:05,348 --> 00:28:07,509 Speaker 1: a weasel, that he would let her down. There's even 740 00:28:07,509 --> 00:28:10,049 Speaker 1: toxic stuff about not being a real man. And then 741 00:28:10,049 --> 00:28:12,228 Speaker 1: you also saw the reaction from the other contest. 742 00:28:12,414 --> 00:28:13,953 Speaker 1: Contestants where they were just like, oh my God, just 743 00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:16,024 Speaker 1: kiss her, like she asked you to kiss her, you 744 00:28:16,024 --> 00:28:18,303 Speaker 1: have to do it, it's intimacy week. But then in 745 00:28:18,303 --> 00:28:20,654 Speaker 1: my head, I did think like if the roles were 746 00:28:20,654 --> 00:28:22,904 Speaker 1: reversed and it was a man on the show saying 747 00:28:22,904 --> 00:28:24,624 Speaker 1: to this woman, and she wasn't being forced for the role, 748 00:28:25,884 --> 00:28:27,744 Speaker 1: this conversation has nothing to do with Rachel because I 749 00:28:27,744 --> 00:28:29,543 Speaker 1: think she was being really respectful. It was more the 750 00:28:29,544 --> 00:28:32,553 Speaker 1: online conversation where I just think if the roles were 751 00:28:32,553 --> 00:28:34,803 Speaker 1: reversed and everyone was like trying to force a woman 752 00:28:34,803 --> 00:28:37,343 Speaker 1: to kiss a man she didn't want to kiss, it 753 00:28:37,343 --> 00:28:38,583 Speaker 1: would be a slightly different 754 00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:38,784 Speaker 2: conversation. 755 00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:42,739 Speaker 2: So differently, I think, yeah, I think it's really, you 756 00:28:42,739 --> 00:28:44,919 Speaker 2: can't really make someone kiss someone and you'd rather them 757 00:28:44,919 --> 00:28:47,539 Speaker 2: be upfront. I just think the timing's off in how 758 00:28:47,539 --> 00:28:47,818 Speaker 2: he 759 00:28:47,818 --> 00:28:48,139 Speaker 2: delivered it. 760 00:28:48,249 --> 00:28:50,578 Speaker 1: I know, but also being told by someone that they 761 00:28:50,578 --> 00:28:53,328 Speaker 1: don't want to kiss you either in private or reality 762 00:28:53,328 --> 00:28:56,889 Speaker 1: TV is such an awful blow. Like I really respect 763 00:28:56,889 --> 00:28:59,058 Speaker 1: her for like coming back for it. So then they 764 00:28:59,058 --> 00:29:00,419 Speaker 1: do have a bit of a cash. 765 00:29:01,159 --> 00:29:03,139 Speaker 2: I, but I like before that she goes down the 766 00:29:03,139 --> 00:29:04,948 Speaker 2: petty route, which is so fair and she takes the 767 00:29:04,948 --> 00:29:05,299 Speaker 2: toilet paper. 768 00:29:05,494 --> 00:29:07,274 Speaker 2: With her, she's like I'm taking the toilet paper. 769 00:29:07,534 --> 00:29:07,583 Speaker 2: Exactly, 770 00:29:08,414 --> 00:29:10,093 Speaker 1: exactly, when she was like, I made this apartment a 771 00:29:10,093 --> 00:29:12,774 Speaker 1: home and I'm like she's pushing all of her stuff out. 772 00:29:12,973 --> 00:29:14,544 Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I would do the same thing. 773 00:29:14,614 --> 00:29:16,973 Speaker 1: She's got the whole washing line with oh God, I 774 00:29:16,973 --> 00:29:18,683 Speaker 1: wanna be someone working in the Marriott at first sight 775 00:29:18,683 --> 00:29:21,534 Speaker 1: apartment buildings just to see everyone like storming up and down, 776 00:29:21,813 --> 00:29:24,294 Speaker 1: moving in and out, going in and having wild sex 777 00:29:24,294 --> 00:29:26,654 Speaker 1: and fighting. What a fun job to have as long 778 00:29:26,654 --> 00:29:28,654 Speaker 1: as you don't have to interact with them. What did 779 00:29:28,654 --> 00:29:30,134 Speaker 1: you think when they did have their big 780 00:29:30,134 --> 00:29:31,853 Speaker 2: kiss? Well, now I just. 781 00:29:31,928 --> 00:29:34,409 Speaker 2: Felt like it was forced and he's felt like pressured 782 00:29:34,409 --> 00:29:37,369 Speaker 2: into kissing someone that he's not interested in, and then 783 00:29:37,369 --> 00:29:39,289 Speaker 2: she's kind of swooning over it and I feel like 784 00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:41,529 Speaker 2: it's kind of what happened with like Beck and Danny, 785 00:29:41,568 --> 00:29:44,249 Speaker 2: even though that was obviously a little, they were a 786 00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:48,169 Speaker 2: few paces along. I think it just feels like it's 787 00:29:48,169 --> 00:29:49,848 Speaker 2: reactive now rather than in 788 00:29:49,848 --> 00:29:50,578 Speaker 2: the moment. 789 00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:53,009 Speaker 1: I think everyone's rooting for them so hard. I also 790 00:29:53,009 --> 00:29:54,568 Speaker 1: want them to be in love, but now I can't 791 00:29:54,568 --> 00:29:58,369 Speaker 1: tell if he just really did bow to the pressure and, 792 00:29:58,443 --> 00:30:00,713 Speaker 1: No one wants to be the most hated man on maths, 793 00:30:00,723 --> 00:30:03,284 Speaker 1: and so I think he just did kiss Rachel, and 794 00:30:03,284 --> 00:30:05,323 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was lovely, but I don't, I don't 795 00:30:05,323 --> 00:30:08,803 Speaker 1: really believe what I'm seeing between them quite yet. It 796 00:30:08,803 --> 00:30:09,473 Speaker 1: seems put on. 797 00:30:09,563 --> 00:30:11,563 Speaker 2: As soon as someone asks you to do something, then 798 00:30:11,563 --> 00:30:13,803 Speaker 2: you don't wanna do it anymore. Now there's the pressure, 799 00:30:13,843 --> 00:30:15,723 Speaker 2: like if he didn't do it, it would have been 800 00:30:15,723 --> 00:30:17,924 Speaker 2: like the whole next week living in hell. He'd he'd 801 00:30:17,924 --> 00:30:18,553 Speaker 2: have no toilet 802 00:30:18,553 --> 00:30:18,904 Speaker 2: paper. 803 00:30:19,044 --> 00:30:21,443 Speaker 1: I know. And what's a man to do but kiss 804 00:30:21,443 --> 00:30:23,764 Speaker 1: a woman, he doesn't wanna kiss. Oh, those are the 805 00:30:23,764 --> 00:30:24,864 Speaker 1: stakes we're dealing with. 806 00:30:26,443 --> 00:30:29,683 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the most hated man on maths, Steven 807 00:30:29,683 --> 00:30:33,004 Speaker 1: can't have that title. No, not good, not a good 808 00:30:33,004 --> 00:30:35,323 Speaker 1: week to be Steve or Stephen, so Stephen can't be 809 00:30:35,323 --> 00:30:38,483 Speaker 1: the most hated man on maths because Steve is now 810 00:30:38,483 --> 00:30:42,044 Speaker 1: the most hated man on maths after intimacy week with Rebecca. 811 00:30:42,404 --> 00:30:44,483 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, it's interesting that they have such a 812 00:30:44,483 --> 00:30:48,044 Speaker 2: boring conservative man with no personality paired 813 00:30:48,044 --> 00:30:50,553 Speaker 1: with most of these men. Come on now. 814 00:30:51,644 --> 00:30:55,183 Speaker 2: Why go on the show? Because you don't wanna do anything, 815 00:30:55,394 --> 00:30:57,723 Speaker 2: and I feel so bad for Rebecca because she seems 816 00:30:57,723 --> 00:31:01,443 Speaker 2: like such a vibrant, big personality, like on her wedding 817 00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:03,483 Speaker 2: day I feel like you could see so much of 818 00:31:03,483 --> 00:31:05,203 Speaker 2: that like spark and now it's just 819 00:31:05,203 --> 00:31:05,644 Speaker 2: gone. 820 00:31:05,894 --> 00:31:08,004 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like the setup was so hard 821 00:31:08,004 --> 00:31:09,853 Speaker 1: because you have her and Gia going to the sex 822 00:31:09,853 --> 00:31:11,563 Speaker 1: shop and you can see that she wants to buy 823 00:31:11,563 --> 00:31:12,124 Speaker 1: more stuff and. 824 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,219 Speaker 1: Do more stuff and I was like, yeah girl, I 825 00:31:14,219 --> 00:31:16,410 Speaker 1: wish that you could just I know, I'm like, why 826 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:19,209 Speaker 1: aren't we just watching Girls bond and sex shops and 827 00:31:19,209 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: not deal with these awful men. I would actually love that, 828 00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:24,249 Speaker 1: that's the show. It might just have an audience of two, 829 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,290 Speaker 1: but I would watch that. Just, just wanna watch some 830 00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:29,009 Speaker 1: ladies not scream at each other, but it was hard 831 00:31:29,009 --> 00:31:31,209 Speaker 1: too because you could tell that she was being set 832 00:31:31,209 --> 00:31:33,009 Speaker 1: up for failure and when she got back. 833 00:31:33,216 --> 00:31:35,296 Speaker 1: And just showed him the costumes, and the thing is, 834 00:31:35,336 --> 00:31:37,735 Speaker 1: it's not his reaction of like not wanting that, like 835 00:31:37,735 --> 00:31:39,125 Speaker 1: if you don't want it, you don't want it, that's 836 00:31:39,125 --> 00:31:39,416 Speaker 1: fine. 837 00:31:39,576 --> 00:31:43,206 Speaker 2: I actually respect his reaction and I know that the, 838 00:31:43,416 --> 00:31:45,696 Speaker 2: I feel like the internet's really divided and they are 839 00:31:45,696 --> 00:31:47,916 Speaker 2: hating on him, but at the end of the day, 840 00:31:48,086 --> 00:31:50,456 Speaker 2: if you're not comfortable with something, you shouldn't have to 841 00:31:50,456 --> 00:31:53,836 Speaker 2: be in that position either, but it is hard that he, 842 00:31:54,544 --> 00:31:56,103 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I kind of like that 843 00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:58,463 Speaker 2: he rejected her before she put it on. If she 844 00:31:58,463 --> 00:31:59,983 Speaker 2: put it on and then rejected her, then that would 845 00:31:59,983 --> 00:32:01,183 Speaker 2: be like a whole another 846 00:32:01,183 --> 00:32:02,093 Speaker 2: world of disappointment. 847 00:32:02,343 --> 00:32:04,174 Speaker 1: Exactly, thank God it didn't kind of come to that. 848 00:32:04,213 --> 00:32:07,053 Speaker 1: But my thing about this man, Steve is that we 849 00:32:07,053 --> 00:32:10,063 Speaker 1: all know many Steve's. We've all worked with Steves. Maybe 850 00:32:10,063 --> 00:32:12,323 Speaker 1: have Steve in your family, well this kind of Steve? 851 00:32:12,674 --> 00:32:12,683 Speaker 2: No, 852 00:32:14,524 --> 00:32:16,973 Speaker 1: thank God I meant not, not a Steven, Steven, yeah, different. 853 00:32:19,063 --> 00:32:21,063 Speaker 1: Not a Steve by name, like some people aren't a 854 00:32:21,063 --> 00:32:22,583 Speaker 1: Karen by name, but they're a Karen by personality. 855 00:32:23,235 --> 00:32:24,785 Speaker 1: He's not a Steve by name, he's a Steve by 856 00:32:24,785 --> 00:32:27,635 Speaker 1: personality in terms of the fact that this man was 857 00:32:27,635 --> 00:32:30,676 Speaker 1: all polite smiles and little chuckles when he first met 858 00:32:30,676 --> 00:32:34,316 Speaker 1: her and met everyone else, and he's all bland but 859 00:32:34,316 --> 00:32:38,395 Speaker 1: pleasant and respectful until he doesn't get his way, until 860 00:32:38,395 --> 00:32:41,076 Speaker 1: something inconveniences him. Like we've all worked with a Steve, 861 00:32:41,155 --> 00:32:43,066 Speaker 1: we've all like had to serve a Steve at some point, 862 00:32:43,115 --> 00:32:44,706 Speaker 1: we've all had a Steve in front of us at 863 00:32:44,706 --> 00:32:47,355 Speaker 1: an airport or something like that, where as soon as 864 00:32:47,355 --> 00:32:51,115 Speaker 1: they don't get their way, they just throw this tantrum and. 865 00:32:51,248 --> 00:32:54,388 Speaker 1: By just like this repeated language, putting the other person down, 866 00:32:54,848 --> 00:32:58,167 Speaker 1: putting themselves condescending, yeah, putting themselves above the mess but 867 00:32:58,167 --> 00:33:00,268 Speaker 1: also causing the mess and that's what he was doing 868 00:33:00,268 --> 00:33:00,527 Speaker 1: to her. 869 00:33:00,598 --> 00:33:01,207 Speaker 2: It's the wrong way 870 00:33:01,207 --> 00:33:04,527 Speaker 2: to go about it. Again, you could have gone through 871 00:33:04,527 --> 00:33:06,868 Speaker 2: this when you chose to stay, like if you wanna leave, 872 00:33:06,968 --> 00:33:09,888 Speaker 2: if you're not interested, leave, get out. What are you 873 00:33:09,888 --> 00:33:10,307 Speaker 2: doing here? 874 00:33:10,447 --> 00:33:13,218 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, get out. And I also felt for her 875 00:33:13,218 --> 00:33:15,648 Speaker 1: about the whole like he calls her too much all 876 00:33:15,648 --> 00:33:17,848 Speaker 1: of the time, she's too much, she's too loud, she's 877 00:33:17,848 --> 00:33:19,608 Speaker 1: too crude triggers and it triggers. 878 00:33:20,020 --> 00:33:22,759 Speaker 1: Me too. Is that the biggest me too. I think 879 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,900 Speaker 1: that's I think it's like why, well, that's why Lena 880 00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:27,369 Speaker 1: Dunham made that entire TV show called Too Much. It's 881 00:33:27,369 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: like everyone, 882 00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:28,690 Speaker 2: oh my God, I 883 00:33:28,690 --> 00:33:31,180 Speaker 2: related so much that I'm like me too. So I 884 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:33,450 Speaker 2: was like, wait, is she being crazy? Is that not 885 00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:34,410 Speaker 2: a normal behavior? 886 00:33:34,859 --> 00:33:37,379 Speaker 1: Exactly. I think for so long just like society and 887 00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:39,940 Speaker 1: pop culture by extension, there's so many crazy female characters 888 00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: in TV shows and movies. It's like the worst thing 889 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,099 Speaker 1: you can be is a crazy over the top too 890 00:33:46,099 --> 00:33:48,180 Speaker 1: much kind of woman and what. 891 00:33:48,311 --> 00:33:50,592 Speaker 1: We learn from shows like Maths is like men come 892 00:33:50,592 --> 00:33:52,192 Speaker 1: in and they say, well they say they want someone 893 00:33:52,192 --> 00:33:53,872 Speaker 1: who takes care of themselves. What they mean is I 894 00:33:53,872 --> 00:33:56,391 Speaker 1: want someone super skinny. But the next thing they always 895 00:33:56,391 --> 00:33:58,271 Speaker 1: say is like someone who can laugh and take a 896 00:33:58,271 --> 00:34:01,031 Speaker 1: joke and someone who's funny, but once they all get 897 00:34:01,031 --> 00:34:03,072 Speaker 1: into the crux of this, they're all just looking for 898 00:34:03,072 --> 00:34:05,271 Speaker 1: a very demure woman who will like bend to them. 899 00:34:05,431 --> 00:34:07,901 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's such a big personality and he's 900 00:34:07,901 --> 00:34:10,221 Speaker 2: just looking for someone that's more submissive and I also 901 00:34:10,221 --> 00:34:12,832 Speaker 2: wonder like, I feel like we always see men around 902 00:34:12,832 --> 00:34:14,791 Speaker 2: his age come in. I'm like, what are you expecting 903 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:16,711 Speaker 2: to get? Did you think you were getting like, 904 00:34:16,954 --> 00:34:18,493 Speaker 2: Some 35 year old woman. 905 00:34:18,603 --> 00:34:18,763 Speaker 1: I 906 00:34:18,763 --> 00:34:21,243 Speaker 1: actually think that's kind of what he was thinking potentially. 907 00:34:21,364 --> 00:34:23,843 Speaker 1: I think he was coming into the show as a 908 00:34:23,843 --> 00:34:26,684 Speaker 1: 50-year-old man, which again, 50, not that old, but he 909 00:34:26,684 --> 00:34:28,763 Speaker 1: seems older than that because she's in her early 50s, 910 00:34:28,803 --> 00:34:31,364 Speaker 1: I think she's older than him. She comes across a 911 00:34:31,364 --> 00:34:36,763 Speaker 1: lot younger, looks 60, yeah, and acts 90, and that's important. 912 00:34:36,964 --> 00:34:39,243 Speaker 2: I think he thinks he's a silver fox, like catch, 913 00:34:39,283 --> 00:34:40,924 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you've ruined 914 00:34:40,924 --> 00:34:41,252 Speaker 2: that image. 915 00:34:41,614 --> 00:34:44,123 Speaker 1: But you've shattered a bland personality, like the reason we 916 00:34:44,124 --> 00:34:45,283 Speaker 1: like that old school silver. 917 00:34:45,405 --> 00:34:47,605 Speaker 1: Fox kind of like old school movie star demeanor is 918 00:34:47,605 --> 00:34:49,135 Speaker 1: that they have a really good suave 919 00:34:49,135 --> 00:34:51,375 Speaker 2: personality just want it to be George Clooney, 920 00:34:51,736 --> 00:34:53,895 Speaker 1: and it's not he's never gonna be George Clooney, he's 921 00:34:53,895 --> 00:34:56,855 Speaker 1: not even George Clooney's stand-in. And so I think that 922 00:34:56,855 --> 00:34:59,335 Speaker 1: was kind of triggering for a lot of, particularly women 923 00:34:59,335 --> 00:35:02,216 Speaker 1: watching that section and being like, oh, everyone's been told 924 00:35:02,216 --> 00:35:04,416 Speaker 1: they're too much, and so has this woman, but at 925 00:35:04,416 --> 00:35:06,216 Speaker 1: least Rebecca pushed back against it. Yeah, 926 00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:06,335 Speaker 2: I 927 00:35:06,335 --> 00:35:08,935 Speaker 2: was actually stalking him on socials because I saw some comments, 928 00:35:09,055 --> 00:35:11,536 Speaker 2: I saw some comments online and he like follows like 929 00:35:11,536 --> 00:35:13,716 Speaker 2: a Melania Trump like fan page. 930 00:35:14,058 --> 00:35:16,988 Speaker 1: OK, that's well that's all I need to know. Nothing 931 00:35:16,988 --> 00:35:19,427 Speaker 1: about that is surprising. I wasn't surprised that he, I 932 00:35:19,427 --> 00:35:21,468 Speaker 1: wasn't surprised he follows her and that's his thought. I'm 933 00:35:21,468 --> 00:35:22,038 Speaker 1: more surprised 934 00:35:22,038 --> 00:35:22,707 Speaker 2: the fan 935 00:35:22,707 --> 00:35:23,167 Speaker 2: page. 936 00:35:24,028 --> 00:35:26,008 Speaker 1: Do you think he thinks that's the real page? Probably. 937 00:35:26,147 --> 00:35:29,548 Speaker 1: That's yes. He's probably messaging her on the side thinking 938 00:35:29,548 --> 00:35:33,647 Speaker 1: she's gonna reply and he's gonna transfer $10,000. Wow, so 939 00:35:33,748 --> 00:35:37,528 Speaker 1: Rebecca and Steve then go to the dinner party separately, 940 00:35:37,538 --> 00:35:39,328 Speaker 1: and that's when they have their first kind of blowout 941 00:35:39,328 --> 00:35:41,947 Speaker 1: where he goes in and talks to everyone else in 942 00:35:41,947 --> 00:35:42,347 Speaker 1: the room. 943 00:35:42,439 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: And then she gets quite upset that he hasn't talked 944 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: to her. And I do kind of, not that I'm 945 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: giving this man any grace, he doesn't need it, but 946 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,340 Speaker 1: I do kind of understand he was like, I didn't 947 00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:50,639 Speaker 1: know if you want me to come over and talk 948 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: to you or to give you space, but the thing 949 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: is like Steve 950 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 2: always go over, I've had that happen to me with 951 00:35:55,439 --> 00:35:58,159 Speaker 2: exes before. I hate if someone goes around to everyone 952 00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: else in the room because it's like someone's not even 953 00:36:00,399 --> 00:36:01,290 Speaker 2: treating you as a friend. 954 00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:03,149 Speaker 2: Like you're waiting 955 00:36:03,149 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: the awkwardness is building. Yeah, and also he's acting like 956 00:36:06,759 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: that is his biggest crime, it wasn't, it was just 957 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: down the list. I'm over him. 958 00:36:10,981 --> 00:36:14,332 Speaker 1: On there, get out. So which brings us to this 959 00:36:14,332 --> 00:36:17,210 Speaker 1: dinner party which was quite explosive how we ended this 960 00:36:17,211 --> 00:36:20,092 Speaker 1: week of Married at First Sight. One of the big 961 00:36:20,092 --> 00:36:23,372 Speaker 1: blowouts came from Beck and Danny, who I felt bad 962 00:36:23,372 --> 00:36:26,091 Speaker 1: because they were having, they came off intimacy week in 963 00:36:26,092 --> 00:36:29,411 Speaker 1: quite a cute way with the painting on each other. Sorry, 964 00:36:29,491 --> 00:36:31,112 Speaker 1: but that actually, I'm sorry, that was actually quite cute. 965 00:36:31,201 --> 00:36:31,922 Speaker 1: I love it enemies 966 00:36:31,922 --> 00:36:32,721 Speaker 2: to lovers. 967 00:36:33,092 --> 00:36:35,411 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they had a really cute moment together and 968 00:36:35,411 --> 00:36:37,132 Speaker 2: it felt quite genuine. Yeah, 969 00:36:37,241 --> 00:36:38,531 Speaker 1: and I love how he's like, oh, I was gonna 970 00:36:38,531 --> 00:36:39,412 Speaker 1: make a joke of it. 971 00:36:39,743 --> 00:36:41,234 Speaker 1: And then I knew not to because it meant so 972 00:36:41,234 --> 00:36:42,674 Speaker 1: much to her, and I was like, well sir, that 973 00:36:42,674 --> 00:36:44,303 Speaker 1: is what we call personal growth. Yeah, 974 00:36:44,634 --> 00:36:46,013 Speaker 2: yeah, it's that easy. 975 00:36:46,513 --> 00:36:49,624 Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, so then everyone else is quite loved up, 976 00:36:49,634 --> 00:36:53,313 Speaker 1: but then we had quite a throwdown between the women, 977 00:36:53,674 --> 00:36:55,634 Speaker 1: which is fair enough cos they've all got big personalities 978 00:36:55,634 --> 00:36:57,593 Speaker 1: and I don't think women fight any more than men. 979 00:36:57,704 --> 00:36:59,224 Speaker 1: Like the men are all fighting too, it's just that 980 00:36:59,224 --> 00:37:01,873 Speaker 1: the women have the big personalities here. So it was 981 00:37:01,874 --> 00:37:06,194 Speaker 1: very much Jia and Brooke against Alyssa and of course, 982 00:37:06,356 --> 00:37:08,355 Speaker 1: Brooke was like a late, as we were saying before, 983 00:37:08,557 --> 00:37:10,306 Speaker 1: like quite a late entry to the dinner party. 984 00:37:10,527 --> 00:37:13,665 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh my gosh, they were going at it. I 985 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,797 Speaker 2: wonder how many glasses of wine in this was because 986 00:37:15,797 --> 00:37:17,277 Speaker 2: it felt like it erupted I wanna know 987 00:37:17,277 --> 00:37:17,436 Speaker 1: what 988 00:37:17,436 --> 00:37:17,676 Speaker 2: the 989 00:37:17,676 --> 00:37:18,027 Speaker 1: drinking 990 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:18,356 Speaker 2: rules are 991 00:37:18,356 --> 00:37:20,676 Speaker 1: with maths cos as we've said on previous episodes, other 992 00:37:20,676 --> 00:37:22,797 Speaker 1: shows don't let them have this much alcohol. I don't 993 00:37:22,797 --> 00:37:24,406 Speaker 1: even think it's the alcohol so much, I think that 994 00:37:24,406 --> 00:37:27,076 Speaker 1: they're just so fired up and they're so, they know 995 00:37:27,076 --> 00:37:29,797 Speaker 1: what they're there for, they want their screen time. They've, 996 00:37:29,876 --> 00:37:32,356 Speaker 1: you know, the producers have been asking them about each 997 00:37:32,356 --> 00:37:32,876 Speaker 1: other and telling them. 998 00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: This, she said this and she said that, and then 999 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: it all comes to a head, and they're also, we 1000 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,300 Speaker 1: know they're at that table for 6 or 7 hours. 1001 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:38,999 Speaker 2: Totally. Well, 1002 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,380 Speaker 2: I feel like before Brooke arrives, now we see that 1003 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: Jia and Beck are now friends. They hated each other 1004 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: last week, but now that she doesn't have someone else 1005 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: to bitch with, she's like, let's join forces. We hate 1006 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 2: Alyssa and we hate Stella. I don't know where this 1007 00:37:52,919 --> 00:37:55,199 Speaker 2: kind of erupted from over the past week, but they 1008 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 2: just have a death wish against the others. And then 1009 00:37:57,479 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: once Brooke comes, it's just a pile on. 1010 00:37:59,974 --> 00:38:03,303 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and Brooke also was loving her life so 1011 00:38:03,303 --> 00:38:04,664 Speaker 1: much in that moment. Oh my God, 1012 00:38:04,853 --> 00:38:06,944 Speaker 2: she was wringing out that drama, she's like, how much 1013 00:38:06,944 --> 00:38:07,864 Speaker 2: can I get from this? And I 1014 00:38:07,864 --> 00:38:10,263 Speaker 1: think she literally, I wonder if there was some clause, again, 1015 00:38:10,343 --> 00:38:12,464 Speaker 1: I don't know, Channel Nine, I don't know what happens 1016 00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:14,464 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, this is just a guess. I wonder 1017 00:38:14,464 --> 00:38:16,944 Speaker 1: if there was something about her being able to leave early, 1018 00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:19,023 Speaker 1: easily or something if she was like, but I will 1019 00:38:19,023 --> 00:38:20,864 Speaker 1: come back to that last dinner party and like put 1020 00:38:20,864 --> 00:38:23,413 Speaker 1: on a show. Yeah, and like really get into it, 1021 00:38:23,424 --> 00:38:24,263 Speaker 1: cause she was instigating. 1022 00:38:25,069 --> 00:38:25,228 Speaker 1: I 1023 00:38:25,228 --> 00:38:25,368 Speaker 2: wonder 1024 00:38:25,368 --> 00:38:27,868 Speaker 2: if they were encouraged or if she didn't want to attend, 1025 00:38:27,908 --> 00:38:30,388 Speaker 2: they're like, look, come, have your moment, this is gonna 1026 00:38:30,388 --> 00:38:32,888 Speaker 2: be really good for you, like just let it all out. 1027 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:33,388 Speaker 2: And that's what 1028 00:38:33,388 --> 00:38:33,628 Speaker 2: we saw 1029 00:38:33,628 --> 00:38:35,458 Speaker 1: because I don't know if they're showing them more than usual, 1030 00:38:35,509 --> 00:38:37,618 Speaker 1: but I've been seeing a lot of producers in the 1031 00:38:37,618 --> 00:38:41,388 Speaker 1: frames this year of them like giving therapy sessions. Yeah, 1032 00:38:41,509 --> 00:38:44,648 Speaker 1: giving therapy sessions, sort of jumping into cars and talking 1033 00:38:44,648 --> 00:38:47,509 Speaker 1: people into doing things and running after contestants. I know 1034 00:38:47,509 --> 00:38:48,829 Speaker 1: they do that, but. 1035 00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:51,763 Speaker 1: Are they showing it more because it's needed to explain 1036 00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,003 Speaker 1: what's happening with the story, or are the producers a 1037 00:38:54,003 --> 00:38:55,404 Speaker 1: bit more in the weeds this year? 1038 00:38:55,684 --> 00:38:56,163 Speaker 2: Yeah, I, 1039 00:38:56,243 --> 00:38:58,474 Speaker 2: I wonder, I reckon they're always as involved, but I 1040 00:38:58,474 --> 00:39:00,484 Speaker 2: think they're showing it a little bit more because they 1041 00:39:00,484 --> 00:39:03,243 Speaker 2: wanna show like the thought process behind, you know, I 1042 00:39:03,243 --> 00:39:06,043 Speaker 2: feel like before Chris comes into the dinner party, he really, 1043 00:39:06,154 --> 00:39:08,033 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to go in. So it would have 1044 00:39:08,033 --> 00:39:09,832 Speaker 2: been quite a switch for him to just walk in 1045 00:39:09,833 --> 00:39:11,513 Speaker 2: like all happy to the dinner party. So I think 1046 00:39:11,513 --> 00:39:14,103 Speaker 2: we needed to have that moment where he's being really 1047 00:39:14,103 --> 00:39:17,283 Speaker 2: vulnerable and showing how much the week has impacted him. 1048 00:39:17,353 --> 00:39:18,914 Speaker 2: Like he did not sound like he wanted to go 1049 00:39:18,914 --> 00:39:20,873 Speaker 2: in and he was kind of talked off a ledge 1050 00:39:20,874 --> 00:39:23,093 Speaker 2: by producers. How nice of them. 1051 00:39:23,464 --> 00:39:25,664 Speaker 1: My God, you could not, there's literally not enough you 1052 00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,303 Speaker 1: could pay me in the world to be a producer 1053 00:39:27,303 --> 00:39:30,042 Speaker 1: I married at first sight, just because of the, the 1054 00:39:30,043 --> 00:39:33,023 Speaker 1: angst of like looking after these people, going through their 1055 00:39:33,023 --> 00:39:36,184 Speaker 1: most like tumultuous, crazy moments, and some of them there 1056 00:39:36,184 --> 00:39:36,944 Speaker 1: just to cause trouble. 1057 00:39:37,023 --> 00:39:37,263 Speaker 2: I don't 1058 00:39:37,263 --> 00:39:39,573 Speaker 2: know how they're equipped to like deal with all these conversations. 1059 00:39:39,614 --> 00:39:40,214 Speaker 2: Is there like a, 1060 00:39:40,424 --> 00:39:40,964 Speaker 1: I don't they are, that's why 1061 00:39:42,944 --> 00:39:44,743 Speaker 1: I don't know what they are I think that's why 1062 00:39:44,743 --> 00:39:47,384 Speaker 1: some stuff happens and some legal documents are signed. 1063 00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:50,214 Speaker 1: So it's all kind of coming to a head, screaming 1064 00:39:50,214 --> 00:39:53,093 Speaker 1: across the table, Alyssa's upset, the men aren't getting involved 1065 00:39:53,093 --> 00:39:57,134 Speaker 1: as much, and then Jia drops kind of the ultimate 1066 00:39:57,134 --> 00:40:01,053 Speaker 1: bomb because Jia tells Bec that Danny said on the 1067 00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:04,053 Speaker 1: outside world she is the physical type he would be 1068 00:40:04,053 --> 00:40:04,694 Speaker 1: attracted to. 1069 00:40:04,773 --> 00:40:08,214 Speaker 2: I feel like they've been foreshadowing this since the very start. 1070 00:40:08,293 --> 00:40:10,644 Speaker 2: As soon as Jia came in, she was making claims, 1071 00:40:10,694 --> 00:40:12,773 Speaker 2: you know, I think he's, I'm his type. 1072 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:16,023 Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised, I've been waiting for this to 1073 00:40:16,023 --> 00:40:19,063 Speaker 2: blow up, but the way it played out was so 1074 00:40:19,063 --> 00:40:22,224 Speaker 2: funny because then Danny goes into full denial mode. He's 1075 00:40:22,224 --> 00:40:24,184 Speaker 2: like gaslighting like I would never, I didn't say that, 1076 00:40:24,243 --> 00:40:27,103 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, and Jay's like, you said it, 1077 00:40:27,224 --> 00:40:29,843 Speaker 2: you said it. I'm like she's begging a man to say, 1078 00:40:30,273 --> 00:40:31,853 Speaker 2: You're hot. Yeah, I know. 1079 00:40:33,003 --> 00:40:35,043 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a lot, and, and Danny's like going 1080 00:40:35,043 --> 00:40:36,684 Speaker 1: to Beck like just look in my eyes, look in 1081 00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:38,553 Speaker 1: my eyes, and he's like, he's trying to get her 1082 00:40:38,553 --> 00:40:40,643 Speaker 1: back to, remember when we painted on each other's bodies naked, 1083 00:40:40,684 --> 00:40:42,803 Speaker 1: that was great, but she's, she's too far gone. I 1084 00:40:42,803 --> 00:40:44,593 Speaker 1: think anyone else at the table could have said that 1085 00:40:44,593 --> 00:40:46,464 Speaker 1: to her and she probably could have moved past it, 1086 00:40:46,684 --> 00:40:50,243 Speaker 1: but because she and Jia became enemies the first day 1087 00:40:50,243 --> 00:40:52,644 Speaker 1: they met at the bachelorette drinks, it felt like a 1088 00:40:52,644 --> 00:40:55,163 Speaker 1: personal attack. And then and then you can tell why 1089 00:40:55,164 --> 00:40:57,884 Speaker 1: Brooke's been brought in because she's been brought in so. 1090 00:40:58,043 --> 00:41:00,513 Speaker 1: That she can say I heard it, cos everyone else 1091 00:41:00,513 --> 00:41:02,273 Speaker 1: is like I didn't hear it, I don't know. And 1092 00:41:02,273 --> 00:41:05,114 Speaker 1: then she's saying I heard it, I heard it, I 1093 00:41:05,114 --> 00:41:06,993 Speaker 1: know what's happening, and then she's also saying read our 1094 00:41:06,993 --> 00:41:10,073 Speaker 1: text messages, which are they allowed to be texting each other? 1095 00:41:10,434 --> 00:41:12,273 Speaker 1: How much is happening in those text messages that we're 1096 00:41:12,273 --> 00:41:12,924 Speaker 1: not seeing on 1097 00:41:12,924 --> 00:41:13,103 Speaker 1: screen? 1098 00:41:13,114 --> 00:41:14,833 Speaker 2: I think there's so much that plays out which is 1099 00:41:14,833 --> 00:41:17,904 Speaker 2: wild to me because having done Love Island where you 1100 00:41:17,904 --> 00:41:20,873 Speaker 2: have no phones, no connection to the outside world, it's 1101 00:41:20,874 --> 00:41:23,174 Speaker 2: so strange to me that they get to go out 1102 00:41:23,174 --> 00:41:24,993 Speaker 2: and have nights out and there's this whole other plot 1103 00:41:24,993 --> 00:41:25,674 Speaker 2: that like. 1104 00:41:25,783 --> 00:41:28,184 Speaker 2: You don't see, there's so many conversations and things that 1105 00:41:28,184 --> 00:41:30,704 Speaker 2: happen off camera, so it must be a minefield for 1106 00:41:30,704 --> 00:41:33,144 Speaker 2: producers trying to like link it back in because to 1107 00:41:33,144 --> 00:41:36,063 Speaker 2: your point, I reckon that is probably why Brooke had 1108 00:41:36,063 --> 00:41:38,543 Speaker 2: to come in, because if she wasn't there, there would 1109 00:41:38,543 --> 00:41:41,144 Speaker 2: have been no one to bring that storyline out because 1110 00:41:41,144 --> 00:41:41,813 Speaker 2: it's not on 1111 00:41:41,813 --> 00:41:41,964 Speaker 2: camera. 1112 00:41:42,093 --> 00:41:43,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes me think that we're only seeing 1113 00:41:43,904 --> 00:41:46,103 Speaker 1: like 20% of the show if they have phones and stuff, 1114 00:41:46,144 --> 00:41:47,944 Speaker 1: cause I guess Mel was saying the other day, last night, 1115 00:41:47,984 --> 00:41:50,143 Speaker 1: I saw what your sister said on social, so obviously 1116 00:41:50,144 --> 00:41:53,454 Speaker 1: she's got access to social accounts and things and then then. 1117 00:41:53,573 --> 00:41:55,894 Speaker 1: To post, but she knows what's going on. And then 1118 00:41:55,894 --> 00:41:58,953 Speaker 1: Jia and Brooke are having a whole side B plot 1119 00:41:59,214 --> 00:42:01,853 Speaker 1: by themselves in their text messages, which I guess they 1120 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:03,694 Speaker 1: had to bring into the show, but yeah, it does 1121 00:42:03,694 --> 00:42:05,643 Speaker 1: make me think that we're kind of quite missing a lot, 1122 00:42:06,003 --> 00:42:07,184 Speaker 1: which I guess we've now been caught up on at 1123 00:42:07,184 --> 00:42:10,333 Speaker 1: least a little bit. Yeah, oh no, God no, can 1124 00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:13,292 Speaker 1: you imagine? Every night, 24 hour live stream, no, I 1125 00:42:13,293 --> 00:42:15,614 Speaker 1: throw myself off a building. But I just think maybe 1126 00:42:15,614 --> 00:42:18,453 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have phones, but anyway, and then we saw 1127 00:42:18,454 --> 00:42:21,073 Speaker 1: Beck storm out and that's kind of where we left. 1128 00:42:21,914 --> 00:42:22,833 Speaker 1: This week's 1129 00:42:22,833 --> 00:42:24,513 Speaker 2: episode. And do you, so do you think that he 1130 00:42:24,513 --> 00:42:25,063 Speaker 2: said it? 1131 00:42:26,273 --> 00:42:26,583 Speaker 1: I think 1132 00:42:26,583 --> 00:42:28,993 Speaker 1: he did. I kind of think he did, but like 1133 00:42:28,993 --> 00:42:29,464 Speaker 2: I don't know if 1134 00:42:29,464 --> 00:42:31,833 Speaker 2: there's anything that wrong with it. I see that as 1135 00:42:31,833 --> 00:42:32,434 Speaker 2: his type. 1136 00:42:32,603 --> 00:42:34,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he probably, but also weird thing to 1137 00:42:34,944 --> 00:42:36,873 Speaker 1: say to her like, oh you would be my type, 1138 00:42:36,954 --> 00:42:37,674 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, 1139 00:42:37,773 --> 00:42:38,643 Speaker 2: it sounds flirtatious. 1140 00:42:38,823 --> 00:42:40,944 Speaker 1: Context I was everything if he was just, if she's like, 1141 00:42:40,954 --> 00:42:42,474 Speaker 1: what kind of a girl do you like, and he 1142 00:42:42,474 --> 00:42:44,303 Speaker 1: was like, oh kind of maybe outside like maybe more 1143 00:42:44,303 --> 00:42:47,114 Speaker 1: like you, but, but also they're both thin blonde women 1144 00:42:47,114 --> 00:42:49,833 Speaker 1: who love like an extra eyeliner and some extensions. I 1145 00:42:49,833 --> 00:42:49,993 Speaker 1: was like. 1146 00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:56,469 Speaker 1: They're not that physically different. Yeah, they all look the same. 1147 00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:57,779 Speaker 1: I've literally got. I've got pictures of all of them 1148 00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:01,219 Speaker 1: next to me, otherwise I won't remember which brown-haired stubly 1149 00:43:01,219 --> 00:43:04,620 Speaker 1: man is fighting with which blonde woman. But anyway, so 1150 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:06,179 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. I don't know if Beck and 1151 00:43:06,179 --> 00:43:07,620 Speaker 1: Danny are gonna make it through the 1152 00:43:07,939 --> 00:43:08,498 Speaker 1: experiment. 1153 00:43:08,659 --> 00:43:10,540 Speaker 2: It's a shame because I feel like they had such 1154 00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:12,060 Speaker 2: a cute moment, but we'll have 1155 00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:12,499 Speaker 1: to wait and 1156 00:43:12,499 --> 00:43:12,620 Speaker 2: see. 1157 00:43:12,699 --> 00:43:14,100 Speaker 1: Well, one cute moment doesn't make a. 1158 00:43:15,065 --> 00:43:16,946 Speaker 1: That is one of the one of the many awful 1159 00:43:16,946 --> 00:43:18,785 Speaker 1: things we've learned from Married at first sight this week 1160 00:43:18,786 --> 00:43:19,145 Speaker 2: and my own 1161 00:43:19,145 --> 00:43:22,506 Speaker 2: dating life. 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