1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,825 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. I don't really love 4 00:00:20,945 --> 00:00:24,745 Speaker 2: like the blush highlight, contour bronze, you know, where you 5 00:00:24,745 --> 00:00:28,145 Speaker 2: can see all them placed next to each other. It's 6 00:00:28,225 --> 00:00:30,585 Speaker 2: nice to have them kind of blend into each other. 7 00:00:31,105 --> 00:00:33,945 Speaker 2: So like having a highlight that's got that blushy tone, 8 00:00:34,025 --> 00:00:34,785 Speaker 2: I think that's. 9 00:00:34,585 --> 00:00:39,545 Speaker 3: Way more natural, way more youthful, way more modern. Makeup 10 00:00:39,745 --> 00:00:40,665 Speaker 3: is my therapy. 11 00:00:40,865 --> 00:00:44,745 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. 12 00:00:47,265 --> 00:00:50,625 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the daily podcast for 13 00:00:50,745 --> 00:00:53,465 Speaker 4: your Face. I am Lucy Neville and this is in 14 00:00:53,545 --> 00:00:55,745 Speaker 4: her Bag where I sit down with one of the 15 00:00:55,785 --> 00:00:58,625 Speaker 4: biggest names in beauty and rummage through their makeup bag. 16 00:00:59,665 --> 00:01:04,345 Speaker 4: Ubi's remember the latte makeup trend. Think caramel toned brown 17 00:01:04,385 --> 00:01:07,585 Speaker 4: eyeshadows and a glowy bronzie base that took the beauty 18 00:01:07,625 --> 00:01:11,465 Speaker 4: world by storm last year. Well that trend was sparked 19 00:01:11,505 --> 00:01:14,225 Speaker 4: by none other than Australia's own tanil J. 20 00:01:14,905 --> 00:01:17,665 Speaker 3: Latin makeup is all over my Furu page. So let's 21 00:01:17,665 --> 00:01:19,225 Speaker 3: get into these bronzy eyes. 22 00:01:19,425 --> 00:01:22,145 Speaker 1: I don't see late makeup going anywhere anytime soon thanks 23 00:01:22,145 --> 00:01:22,745 Speaker 1: to Tanil. 24 00:01:23,145 --> 00:01:24,065 Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. 25 00:01:24,305 --> 00:01:26,505 Speaker 2: I've been seeing this Latin makeup look all over my 26 00:01:26,545 --> 00:01:27,985 Speaker 2: timeline for the last two months. 27 00:01:27,985 --> 00:01:28,345 Speaker 4: A day. 28 00:01:28,665 --> 00:01:31,265 Speaker 3: I'm going to bring this gorgeousness to my bee. 29 00:01:31,705 --> 00:01:34,705 Speaker 4: With over sixteen years in the industry, Tanil has honed 30 00:01:34,705 --> 00:01:38,025 Speaker 4: her craft working in makeup stores, leading beauty workshops, and 31 00:01:38,065 --> 00:01:42,345 Speaker 4: now she's expanding her empire. She's designing her own makeup line. 32 00:01:42,505 --> 00:01:45,505 Speaker 4: She offers online courses and has even launched a viral 33 00:01:45,585 --> 00:01:48,345 Speaker 4: brush collection. Her work in the space has landed her 34 00:01:48,385 --> 00:01:51,625 Speaker 4: on the front page of magazines, working on Australia's biggest celebs, 35 00:01:51,625 --> 00:01:55,945 Speaker 4: and her Instagram has grown to over three hundred thousand followers. 36 00:01:56,305 --> 00:01:58,745 Speaker 4: I love interviewing makeup artists because they have so much 37 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,705 Speaker 4: experience with all skin types and tones and their advice 38 00:02:01,785 --> 00:02:04,625 Speaker 4: is always very universal. So we're going to touch on 39 00:02:04,705 --> 00:02:08,305 Speaker 4: undertones and of course Latte makeup. Ubi's let's do this. 40 00:02:08,465 --> 00:02:11,585 Speaker 4: It's time to chat to to Neil J. I had 41 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:18,265 Speaker 4: to find the liner in my bag. Denil, thank you 42 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:20,265 Speaker 4: so much for joining us today on in her bag. 43 00:02:20,465 --> 00:02:22,505 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. 44 00:02:22,865 --> 00:02:25,465 Speaker 4: If you had to describe your makeup style in three words, 45 00:02:25,625 --> 00:02:26,225 Speaker 4: what would they be? 46 00:02:27,065 --> 00:02:30,745 Speaker 2: It would be soft glam. I guess that's two words, 47 00:02:31,065 --> 00:02:34,185 Speaker 2: bronze and wearable. 48 00:02:34,905 --> 00:02:37,545 Speaker 4: Wearable. I love that. Okay, we'll get into this a 49 00:02:37,545 --> 00:02:41,265 Speaker 4: bit later. But you make some pretty iconic viral looks. 50 00:02:41,785 --> 00:02:45,185 Speaker 4: Where do you get inspiration for makeup looks that you 51 00:02:45,225 --> 00:02:46,665 Speaker 4: want to try, that you want to post, that you 52 00:02:46,665 --> 00:02:47,145 Speaker 4: want to share. 53 00:02:47,465 --> 00:02:52,985 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always following other amazing makeup artists, so 54 00:02:53,025 --> 00:02:57,225 Speaker 2: I think just watching what's going on on TikTok on Instagram. 55 00:02:57,425 --> 00:03:01,025 Speaker 2: Before TikTok, it was Instagram and then Pinterest. Pinterest is 56 00:03:01,025 --> 00:03:04,665 Speaker 2: a great place. I love the nineties, so looking back 57 00:03:04,825 --> 00:03:08,865 Speaker 2: at old school makeup artists like Kevin Kuan. Someone I 58 00:03:08,905 --> 00:03:12,545 Speaker 2: love is Aaron Parsons. She's a makeup artist. She's not 59 00:03:12,625 --> 00:03:14,625 Speaker 2: old school, she's now, but she looks back at the 60 00:03:14,665 --> 00:03:18,185 Speaker 2: past and all the makeup trends, and I think, yeah, 61 00:03:18,225 --> 00:03:21,545 Speaker 2: looking back helps you look to the future. Just an 62 00:03:21,585 --> 00:03:25,345 Speaker 2: amalgamation of things. You know, it could be a beautiful 63 00:03:25,385 --> 00:03:28,265 Speaker 2: picture that inspires me. It's many things. 64 00:03:28,345 --> 00:03:31,105 Speaker 4: And you mentioned that you follow other creators for inspiration 65 00:03:31,225 --> 00:03:33,625 Speaker 4: as well. Are there any that you think we should follow. 66 00:03:33,545 --> 00:03:34,865 Speaker 3: Well, Aaron Parsons. 67 00:03:34,945 --> 00:03:37,905 Speaker 2: Yes, she does all these tiktoks of going through like 68 00:03:38,065 --> 00:03:42,385 Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe's makeup what she used, or like from the Egyptians, 69 00:03:42,425 --> 00:03:47,305 Speaker 2: like all different techniques and it's really really interesting. And 70 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:49,985 Speaker 2: she also has like a lot on perfume and I'm 71 00:03:49,985 --> 00:03:51,025 Speaker 2: addicted to watching her. 72 00:03:51,145 --> 00:03:54,305 Speaker 4: Oh that's amazing. I can't wait to follow her. Yeah, okay, 73 00:03:54,345 --> 00:03:56,945 Speaker 4: we have to talk about Latin makeup, seeing as you're 74 00:03:57,145 --> 00:04:00,665 Speaker 4: pretty much responsible for it. 75 00:04:00,825 --> 00:04:01,465 Speaker 3: So funny. 76 00:04:02,025 --> 00:04:06,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really interesting moment because the photo 77 00:04:06,585 --> 00:04:09,465 Speaker 2: that was used to pop off Latain makeup that kept 78 00:04:09,465 --> 00:04:13,105 Speaker 2: get reposted and regurgitated was this look that I did 79 00:04:13,265 --> 00:04:17,265 Speaker 2: on this beautiful model tier for one of my brands 80 00:04:17,345 --> 00:04:19,225 Speaker 2: that I worked for all the time called Sondre, and 81 00:04:19,265 --> 00:04:23,825 Speaker 2: we did this photo shoot in the photographer Carleen's backyard, 82 00:04:24,665 --> 00:04:27,945 Speaker 2: and we just did this shot on the brick wall 83 00:04:28,505 --> 00:04:32,265 Speaker 2: of her house and that was like six years ago 84 00:04:32,665 --> 00:04:36,065 Speaker 2: or somewhere, and then obviously it just keeps going on 85 00:04:36,185 --> 00:04:38,865 Speaker 2: Pinterest and people use it as a reference all the time. 86 00:04:39,305 --> 00:04:41,825 Speaker 2: So it was really random that it popped up because 87 00:04:42,425 --> 00:04:44,385 Speaker 2: that was a six year ago look. Although I still 88 00:04:44,425 --> 00:04:46,385 Speaker 2: do that look all the time because it just suits everyone, 89 00:04:46,945 --> 00:04:49,185 Speaker 2: and I was on a shoot that was a really 90 00:04:49,185 --> 00:04:54,865 Speaker 2: boring shoe. I started getting tagged in this video of 91 00:04:54,945 --> 00:04:58,305 Speaker 2: this one creator and then Yeah, I was like, I've 92 00:04:58,305 --> 00:05:00,865 Speaker 2: got to hop on this and show how I did 93 00:05:00,905 --> 00:05:01,185 Speaker 2: the look. 94 00:05:01,665 --> 00:05:04,705 Speaker 4: So cool And if someone's listening who hasn't seen Latte 95 00:05:04,785 --> 00:05:07,425 Speaker 4: makeup on their fees, could you give us kind of 96 00:05:07,465 --> 00:05:09,625 Speaker 4: an elevator pitch on what late makeup is. 97 00:05:09,905 --> 00:05:13,105 Speaker 2: It's about the caramel tone, you know. I think back 98 00:05:13,145 --> 00:05:16,305 Speaker 2: in the day when I created this look. Obviously I 99 00:05:16,345 --> 00:05:20,305 Speaker 2: was inspired by j Lo. She's always on those caramel tones. 100 00:05:20,305 --> 00:05:20,905 Speaker 3: The nineties. 101 00:05:20,985 --> 00:05:23,225 Speaker 2: Use a lot of those caramel tones because it's almost 102 00:05:23,265 --> 00:05:28,265 Speaker 2: like a little bit slightly cool and mustard. At that time, 103 00:05:28,305 --> 00:05:32,105 Speaker 2: I felt like the orange tones were huge, so a 104 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:34,945 Speaker 2: lot of like for eyeshadow was like brown script, which 105 00:05:35,025 --> 00:05:38,505 Speaker 2: was like a really red tone brown. For me personally, 106 00:05:38,545 --> 00:05:41,945 Speaker 2: I'm like a fair olive undertone, and a lot of 107 00:05:41,945 --> 00:05:43,985 Speaker 2: the girls that sit in my chair are olives, so 108 00:05:44,225 --> 00:05:50,105 Speaker 2: red tones aren't completely complimentary to their skins, so mustardy 109 00:05:50,345 --> 00:05:54,225 Speaker 2: kind of kramely tones are. So that's where those tones 110 00:05:54,265 --> 00:05:57,265 Speaker 2: really inspired me, and that's what the whole look is about. 111 00:05:57,305 --> 00:06:02,345 Speaker 2: It's a monochromatic caramel, you know, muted kind of ten 112 00:06:03,185 --> 00:06:04,905 Speaker 2: look eyes, chip. 113 00:06:04,745 --> 00:06:07,745 Speaker 4: Lips, eyes, cheek lips. And do you think that there 114 00:06:07,825 --> 00:06:10,265 Speaker 4: is another makeup trend that you think will pop off 115 00:06:10,305 --> 00:06:12,625 Speaker 4: in winter? Are you seeing anything on the horizon. 116 00:06:14,265 --> 00:06:16,505 Speaker 2: I'm seeing blush lighters a lot, which is a mix 117 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:20,305 Speaker 2: of blush and highlights. And I prefer that too, because 118 00:06:20,345 --> 00:06:24,785 Speaker 2: I don't really love like the blush highlight contour where 119 00:06:24,785 --> 00:06:27,705 Speaker 2: you can see all them placed next to each other. 120 00:06:28,385 --> 00:06:31,065 Speaker 3: It's nice to have them kind of blend into each other. 121 00:06:31,585 --> 00:06:34,385 Speaker 2: So like having a highlight that's got that blushy tone, 122 00:06:34,465 --> 00:06:38,185 Speaker 2: I think that's way more natural, way more youthful, way 123 00:06:38,185 --> 00:06:41,265 Speaker 2: more modern. And I think Halle Beaber's kind of dropped 124 00:06:41,265 --> 00:06:43,905 Speaker 2: a few little products of hers coming out, and you 125 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:46,985 Speaker 2: can see there's like a shimmer in that blush rare beauty. 126 00:06:47,625 --> 00:06:49,905 Speaker 2: We're seeing it with fenty all of those brands are 127 00:06:49,905 --> 00:06:52,785 Speaker 2: bringing out those kind of creamy highlighter blushes. 128 00:06:52,945 --> 00:06:54,225 Speaker 4: It's good to know I'm on trend. 129 00:06:54,745 --> 00:07:05,905 Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't even know it my favorite. 130 00:07:07,585 --> 00:07:10,185 Speaker 4: All right, it's time to unzip your makeup bag. Cannot 131 00:07:10,385 --> 00:07:10,985 Speaker 4: wait for this. 132 00:07:11,425 --> 00:07:14,265 Speaker 3: Generally, my own personal makeup is pretty basic. 133 00:07:15,265 --> 00:07:18,905 Speaker 2: I don't stray far out of what I do for 134 00:07:19,105 --> 00:07:20,625 Speaker 2: a night time to the daytime. 135 00:07:20,705 --> 00:07:21,385 Speaker 3: It's all the same. 136 00:07:21,425 --> 00:07:24,065 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll add a little bit of powder, but generally 137 00:07:24,265 --> 00:07:27,705 Speaker 2: skin care first. Of course, that is absolutely key if 138 00:07:27,825 --> 00:07:30,425 Speaker 2: the skin's not prepped. And I don't mean that in 139 00:07:30,545 --> 00:07:33,105 Speaker 2: just the morning. At night you want to do a 140 00:07:33,185 --> 00:07:35,345 Speaker 2: nice cleanse. You want to really make sure that your 141 00:07:35,385 --> 00:07:39,705 Speaker 2: skin's hydrated and looked after and nourished. So my absolute 142 00:07:39,705 --> 00:07:43,225 Speaker 2: wide or die is sickle fate from a ven It 143 00:07:43,345 --> 00:07:46,345 Speaker 2: is so good. It helps to repair the barrier. It's 144 00:07:46,425 --> 00:07:49,705 Speaker 2: quite intense, so for summer up here in Queensland, it's 145 00:07:49,705 --> 00:07:53,305 Speaker 2: not ideal for the day. However, I lather myself at night. 146 00:07:53,825 --> 00:07:55,905 Speaker 2: If you are a sensitive skin type, this is like 147 00:07:56,025 --> 00:07:59,545 Speaker 2: the best. It helps to heal the skins barrier, really 148 00:07:59,585 --> 00:08:02,785 Speaker 2: protect it as well. Actually really great ingredients. I used 149 00:08:02,785 --> 00:08:06,065 Speaker 2: to always get Perial Dermatitis. That product heals it. 150 00:08:06,305 --> 00:08:07,745 Speaker 4: Ah, that sounds amazing. 151 00:08:08,465 --> 00:08:11,025 Speaker 2: Keep it really simple, just use that if you have 152 00:08:11,105 --> 00:08:15,545 Speaker 2: any sort of dermatitis breakout. So sickle fate, I usually 153 00:08:15,665 --> 00:08:20,345 Speaker 2: skip the foundation on myself. I don't really use much foundation. 154 00:08:20,585 --> 00:08:24,825 Speaker 2: I use Coincila. I love the Nars Soft mat concealer. 155 00:08:24,545 --> 00:08:26,385 Speaker 4: And do you apply with a brush with a blender 156 00:08:26,425 --> 00:08:27,145 Speaker 4: with fingers. 157 00:08:27,425 --> 00:08:29,545 Speaker 2: If I'm going to do any makeup, you need good brushes. 158 00:08:29,585 --> 00:08:32,305 Speaker 2: If you do, they're the key to your makeup. I 159 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:35,025 Speaker 2: have my own brush line to Neil J brushwo So 160 00:08:35,425 --> 00:08:37,905 Speaker 2: I'm loving the Volume two brush collection at the moment. 161 00:08:38,425 --> 00:08:40,745 Speaker 2: So I go in with concealer and I use the 162 00:08:41,145 --> 00:08:43,425 Speaker 2: soft Matte concealer by Nars. 163 00:08:43,905 --> 00:08:44,265 Speaker 4: Okay. 164 00:08:44,745 --> 00:08:46,305 Speaker 3: It gives really great coverage. 165 00:08:46,345 --> 00:08:50,145 Speaker 2: You don't need much, especially if you have like problematic areas. 166 00:08:50,785 --> 00:08:54,465 Speaker 2: I always use a cream bronzer. I actually am working 167 00:08:54,465 --> 00:08:56,985 Speaker 2: on one at the moment, and that generally adds that 168 00:08:57,025 --> 00:08:58,185 Speaker 2: dimension to my face. 169 00:08:58,305 --> 00:09:01,345 Speaker 4: Can I ask you about your cream bronzer that you're developing. 170 00:09:01,905 --> 00:09:03,705 Speaker 4: You are a makeup artist, you would have tried so 171 00:09:03,745 --> 00:09:07,905 Speaker 4: many different cream bronzes. What are you focusing on when 172 00:09:07,905 --> 00:09:10,185 Speaker 4: you're making your own? Like, what are the carry toiskis 173 00:09:10,185 --> 00:09:10,785 Speaker 4: you wanted to have? 174 00:09:11,305 --> 00:09:15,105 Speaker 2: I want it to be super blendable, so really forgiving 175 00:09:15,705 --> 00:09:17,665 Speaker 2: it was really important to me not to have it 176 00:09:17,705 --> 00:09:21,145 Speaker 2: like shift and move, and something that was water resistant 177 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:24,425 Speaker 2: as well, because generally we're wearing bronzes in the summertime. 178 00:09:25,345 --> 00:09:29,265 Speaker 2: Something that is yeah, super creamy feels really lightweight on 179 00:09:29,305 --> 00:09:32,465 Speaker 2: the skin, that's not heavy. And also the tones for 180 00:09:32,585 --> 00:09:36,825 Speaker 2: me were really important that they emulate sunkissed skin, but 181 00:09:37,105 --> 00:09:40,465 Speaker 2: in a way that actually speaks to different people's undertones. 182 00:09:40,585 --> 00:09:44,265 Speaker 2: So someone that is cooler or more neutral undertones not 183 00:09:44,305 --> 00:09:49,425 Speaker 2: going to suit a really orange bronza. Generally someone with 184 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:52,545 Speaker 2: a neutral undertone will go a little bit pinkier. So 185 00:09:52,705 --> 00:09:56,585 Speaker 2: the shades that I've created are very much inspired by skin. 186 00:09:57,145 --> 00:09:59,265 Speaker 4: How do you figure out your undertone if you don't know. 187 00:09:59,945 --> 00:10:01,265 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a few ways. 188 00:10:01,425 --> 00:10:03,745 Speaker 2: I have a course on that because I started to 189 00:10:03,745 --> 00:10:06,665 Speaker 2: write this course about how I find your undertone, and 190 00:10:06,705 --> 00:10:10,145 Speaker 2: then I got into a deep vortex of just like 191 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:14,705 Speaker 2: this is actually really hard to understand. I think traditionally, 192 00:10:15,065 --> 00:10:17,465 Speaker 2: over a lot of years, we understand that there's a 193 00:10:17,505 --> 00:10:19,385 Speaker 2: cool undertone, there's. 194 00:10:19,265 --> 00:10:23,345 Speaker 3: Warm, then there's neutral. How does this all make sense? 195 00:10:23,505 --> 00:10:27,345 Speaker 2: I think growing up trying to figure out undertones, even 196 00:10:27,385 --> 00:10:30,385 Speaker 2: for myself, everyone would be like, you're a neutral undertone, 197 00:10:30,385 --> 00:10:33,465 Speaker 2: and like, I feel like these neutral foundations they come 198 00:10:33,545 --> 00:10:37,345 Speaker 2: up looking too pink, too orange. And that's because there 199 00:10:37,425 --> 00:10:41,545 Speaker 2: is actually a fourth undertone, which is olive, that's in itself. 200 00:10:41,145 --> 00:10:43,545 Speaker 3: Its own undertone. 201 00:10:43,025 --> 00:10:45,545 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are starting to 202 00:10:45,585 --> 00:10:47,505 Speaker 2: realize that now, and a lot of brands are starting 203 00:10:47,505 --> 00:10:50,825 Speaker 2: to realize that we're seeing a lot more olive undertone foundation, 204 00:10:51,505 --> 00:10:54,105 Speaker 2: and what that is is a more green based foundation. 205 00:10:54,345 --> 00:10:56,665 Speaker 2: So we have more of your warmth, which is more 206 00:10:56,705 --> 00:11:00,065 Speaker 2: like your oranges, your reds. That's all your undertones there, 207 00:11:00,105 --> 00:11:02,585 Speaker 2: and then you've got your cooler tones, which is like 208 00:11:02,625 --> 00:11:05,545 Speaker 2: your violets, your pink, ship blues. So if you know 209 00:11:05,625 --> 00:11:10,025 Speaker 2: the color wheel, yeah, where neutral is it sits right middle. 210 00:11:10,065 --> 00:11:12,225 Speaker 2: It's cool and warm, but it's at the top of 211 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:14,185 Speaker 2: the color wheel, so it's where your pinks and your 212 00:11:14,225 --> 00:11:17,105 Speaker 2: purple's kind of meat, so that's like your spring palette. 213 00:11:17,145 --> 00:11:19,905 Speaker 2: That's like people that have that really kind of pinky, 214 00:11:19,985 --> 00:11:23,625 Speaker 2: peachy skin, they soup bright tones like those warm brights. 215 00:11:24,025 --> 00:11:26,825 Speaker 2: And then right at the bottom we have where yellow 216 00:11:27,025 --> 00:11:30,225 Speaker 2: and green meats. So that's your olive undertones. So both 217 00:11:30,345 --> 00:11:34,665 Speaker 2: equally cool, equally warm. However, it's on the complete opposite 218 00:11:34,705 --> 00:11:39,705 Speaker 2: spectrum of the neutral. So normally neutral and olive get 219 00:11:39,705 --> 00:11:44,585 Speaker 2: put together, but they're so separate their tones completely are different. 220 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:48,505 Speaker 2: The best way you can find your undertone is looking 221 00:11:48,665 --> 00:11:54,025 Speaker 2: at your hair, skin, and eyes. So if your hair 222 00:11:54,105 --> 00:11:59,665 Speaker 2: has any sort of warmth, any kind of red orange tones, 223 00:11:59,785 --> 00:12:02,465 Speaker 2: really like brassy kind of tones. If you ever dye 224 00:12:02,545 --> 00:12:06,305 Speaker 2: your hair blonde and it normally goes really brassy, generally 225 00:12:06,345 --> 00:12:08,585 Speaker 2: you'll be some sort of warmer undertones. 226 00:12:08,785 --> 00:12:12,705 Speaker 3: Your neutral and warm, they're generally a little bit warmer. 227 00:12:12,745 --> 00:12:14,625 Speaker 3: So you just got to figure out whether you're warm 228 00:12:15,265 --> 00:12:15,865 Speaker 3: or neutral. 229 00:12:16,305 --> 00:12:19,665 Speaker 2: So if you're really warm, you're going to gravitate towards 230 00:12:19,705 --> 00:12:23,585 Speaker 2: those really gold pigments, whereas if you're neutral, you'll probably 231 00:12:23,625 --> 00:12:25,425 Speaker 2: be a little bit more of like a gold silver. 232 00:12:25,785 --> 00:12:29,545 Speaker 2: And then with the cooler undertones, olive undertones are generally 233 00:12:29,585 --> 00:12:32,145 Speaker 2: like their hair will be a lot more ashy, a 234 00:12:32,145 --> 00:12:35,105 Speaker 2: lot more like brown black. You're not going to see 235 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:38,385 Speaker 2: any red undertones in their skin at ll not much warmth, 236 00:12:38,665 --> 00:12:39,825 Speaker 2: same with cool undertones. 237 00:12:39,905 --> 00:12:41,425 Speaker 4: So perfect, I think I'm warm. 238 00:12:41,625 --> 00:12:44,945 Speaker 3: I think you're a neutral palette. You do, yeah, I 239 00:12:44,985 --> 00:12:45,345 Speaker 3: think so? 240 00:12:45,705 --> 00:12:47,625 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, maybe I've got to revisit everything. 241 00:12:49,065 --> 00:12:52,185 Speaker 2: I think putting on a white shirt will generally show 242 00:12:52,225 --> 00:12:55,025 Speaker 2: you what your skin is showing. 243 00:12:55,185 --> 00:12:58,225 Speaker 3: So just from here it looks like Europe a little 244 00:12:58,225 --> 00:12:59,105 Speaker 3: bit peachy pink. 245 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:00,905 Speaker 4: I am peachy pink. 246 00:13:01,305 --> 00:13:03,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a little bit more neutral. So look out 247 00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:06,865 Speaker 2: the spring palette. That's generally and that's the thing. You'll 248 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:10,545 Speaker 2: still be able to take colors from the warm. Those 249 00:13:10,585 --> 00:13:14,185 Speaker 2: warm tones will still suit you, but you're not completely warm, 250 00:13:14,265 --> 00:13:15,585 Speaker 2: like say Susan Sarandon. 251 00:13:15,985 --> 00:13:18,665 Speaker 4: I love it. Now I'm just googling spring palette. I'm like, yes, 252 00:13:18,825 --> 00:13:29,625 Speaker 4: is a personal consultation for me. Now, okay, let's talk 253 00:13:29,665 --> 00:13:31,305 Speaker 4: about brows. What do you do for brows? 254 00:13:31,865 --> 00:13:33,105 Speaker 3: Oh, not much, to be honest. 255 00:13:34,545 --> 00:13:36,865 Speaker 2: If it's on me, I just use a little razor 256 00:13:36,905 --> 00:13:40,465 Speaker 2: and just clean up the ends, or use a scortch cough, 257 00:13:40,785 --> 00:13:44,465 Speaker 2: got to be gel and maybe a tiny little bit 258 00:13:44,465 --> 00:13:47,425 Speaker 2: of brow powder just on the ends. I just love 259 00:13:47,465 --> 00:13:51,305 Speaker 2: a natural brow, not too full on and same when 260 00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:52,785 Speaker 2: I'm on shoes, I do a little bit of a 261 00:13:52,785 --> 00:13:56,185 Speaker 2: straight brow, so just kind of tapering off the edge 262 00:13:56,465 --> 00:13:57,945 Speaker 2: and just keeping it kind of lifted. 263 00:13:57,985 --> 00:14:00,185 Speaker 3: It generally gives you a little bit of extra eyeshadow. 264 00:14:00,665 --> 00:14:03,465 Speaker 4: Okay, speaking of eyeshadow, do you have a favorite palette 265 00:14:03,465 --> 00:14:05,745 Speaker 4: that you would recommend, especially for like beginners? 266 00:14:05,865 --> 00:14:10,345 Speaker 2: Oh you know what, for beginners, a brown pencil and 267 00:14:10,745 --> 00:14:13,065 Speaker 2: a powder bronzer is all you need. 268 00:14:13,465 --> 00:14:15,185 Speaker 4: Oh love, that creates. 269 00:14:14,945 --> 00:14:17,385 Speaker 3: So many different eyeshadow looks. Just with those two. 270 00:14:17,225 --> 00:14:20,265 Speaker 4: Things so good. And then in terms of MUSCAA, what's 271 00:14:20,305 --> 00:14:20,905 Speaker 4: your favorite? 272 00:14:21,185 --> 00:14:26,025 Speaker 2: I would have to say the Laurel Panoramic is really great. 273 00:14:26,545 --> 00:14:28,225 Speaker 3: I love that scar. Yeah. 274 00:14:28,385 --> 00:14:31,185 Speaker 4: Is that like a volumizing one, A lengthening, a lifting. 275 00:14:32,145 --> 00:14:35,865 Speaker 2: I think it does all of the things. I just 276 00:14:35,985 --> 00:14:40,305 Speaker 2: personally like one that is super super black. It has 277 00:14:40,345 --> 00:14:43,545 Speaker 2: that lift, it has that length and volumizing. I think, yeah, 278 00:14:43,665 --> 00:14:45,025 Speaker 2: that's like an all rounder for me. 279 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:46,545 Speaker 4: And do you get any transfer. 280 00:14:46,785 --> 00:14:50,385 Speaker 2: I don't generally wear muscar on the bottom lash. I'd 281 00:14:50,425 --> 00:14:53,985 Speaker 2: hardly ever put that on anyone. And if I do, 282 00:14:54,105 --> 00:14:56,945 Speaker 2: I might do like a maron or brown mascara on 283 00:14:56,985 --> 00:14:59,545 Speaker 2: the bottom. Oh that's a good hack, yeah, because it's 284 00:14:59,585 --> 00:15:03,065 Speaker 2: just like generally the eyelashes are just that little bit sparser. 285 00:15:03,745 --> 00:15:06,225 Speaker 2: Having something a little bit lighter like your brown or 286 00:15:06,225 --> 00:15:09,065 Speaker 2: your maroon might just actually like accentuate the color of the. 287 00:15:09,025 --> 00:15:10,225 Speaker 3: Eye as well. 288 00:15:10,745 --> 00:15:14,225 Speaker 2: I cannot go past my wing liner and I always 289 00:15:14,305 --> 00:15:17,625 Speaker 2: use a brown shade. I love the Caa Gel eye 290 00:15:17,665 --> 00:15:21,665 Speaker 2: liner by Cryolin, really beautiful brown, like it's like a 291 00:15:21,705 --> 00:15:22,825 Speaker 2: really chocolatey brown. 292 00:15:23,265 --> 00:15:26,665 Speaker 4: And our lips, what are your write or die lip products? 293 00:15:26,745 --> 00:15:29,145 Speaker 2: If I had to choose one lip product, like the 294 00:15:29,185 --> 00:15:31,905 Speaker 2: type of lip product, it would have to be lipliner. Okay, 295 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:34,185 Speaker 2: because I can always put sickle fate on the lips. 296 00:15:34,265 --> 00:15:39,065 Speaker 2: That's fine. So yeah, lip liners the mac range are great, 297 00:15:39,265 --> 00:15:43,665 Speaker 2: like your oak, your cork, stripped down chestnut. They're like 298 00:15:44,345 --> 00:15:47,105 Speaker 2: staples in my makeup kit. And then I also love 299 00:15:47,225 --> 00:15:51,465 Speaker 2: the skin from Kim Kardashian's Lime, but you can't get 300 00:15:51,465 --> 00:15:54,625 Speaker 2: them here. And then the makeup forever is so great 301 00:15:54,905 --> 00:15:59,905 Speaker 2: anywhere Caffeine amazing if you want just that little bit 302 00:15:59,945 --> 00:16:03,585 Speaker 2: of a peachy kind of brown tone. And then wherever 303 00:16:03,665 --> 00:16:05,345 Speaker 2: walnut for that rosy brown. 304 00:16:05,945 --> 00:16:08,265 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so many good records. And then do 305 00:16:08,305 --> 00:16:10,745 Speaker 4: you use a powder? Do you use a setting spray? 306 00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:12,425 Speaker 4: How do you keep your makeup in place? 307 00:16:12,865 --> 00:16:13,625 Speaker 3: Look, if it's a. 308 00:16:13,545 --> 00:16:15,985 Speaker 2: Big night, if you're going out, it's to night time, 309 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:19,105 Speaker 2: you need the one sized setting spray. And the Laurel 310 00:16:19,225 --> 00:16:24,185 Speaker 2: Paris Invailable setting sprays amazing too, It's so good. However, 311 00:16:24,225 --> 00:16:28,065 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be using those every single day. I would 312 00:16:28,145 --> 00:16:30,825 Speaker 2: just be using like a light powder, love the Laura 313 00:16:30,905 --> 00:16:34,865 Speaker 2: Mercy a translucent powder, the jeron Chi Prism really amazing, 314 00:16:35,065 --> 00:16:38,945 Speaker 2: or if you like a pressed one the Charlotte Tiilbury airbrush. 315 00:16:38,305 --> 00:16:41,265 Speaker 4: Powder ah, and obviously applied with your brushes. 316 00:16:41,705 --> 00:16:44,625 Speaker 2: Well, yes, obviously you could use a powder path from 317 00:16:44,665 --> 00:16:45,705 Speaker 2: Saniel Jay. 318 00:16:45,785 --> 00:16:50,905 Speaker 3: Yeah. What a hack? You makeup hacks? 319 00:16:51,065 --> 00:16:54,025 Speaker 4: What is the best makeup or bitty tip trick or 320 00:16:54,105 --> 00:16:55,785 Speaker 4: hack that you learn through your career so far? 321 00:16:56,025 --> 00:16:58,545 Speaker 2: Okay, So my one hack would have to be if 322 00:16:58,545 --> 00:17:01,505 Speaker 2: you're getting watery eyes, more like if you're gonna cry 323 00:17:01,665 --> 00:17:03,825 Speaker 2: or your suns in your eye, you're gonna get your 324 00:17:03,865 --> 00:17:07,545 Speaker 2: two finger you get even like two brush ends and 325 00:17:07,585 --> 00:17:10,665 Speaker 2: then press it in that center park in the bridge 326 00:17:10,665 --> 00:17:13,025 Speaker 2: of your nose, like right at the top between your eyes, 327 00:17:13,305 --> 00:17:17,665 Speaker 2: and just pulsate, just little tiny pulses. It's almost like 328 00:17:17,665 --> 00:17:19,745 Speaker 2: your eyes start to get distracted, but your tears are 329 00:17:19,785 --> 00:17:22,425 Speaker 2: going to go. I promise you absolute game changer. 330 00:17:22,705 --> 00:17:25,665 Speaker 4: That is so cool. My eyes always water, Yeah. 331 00:17:25,665 --> 00:17:28,345 Speaker 2: Always when I'd have brides and they'd start like tearing up, like, 332 00:17:28,385 --> 00:17:30,785 Speaker 2: oh hang on, no, we've just done the scara, so 333 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:35,305 Speaker 2: enjoy it please, So yeah, pressing here? 334 00:17:35,545 --> 00:17:37,945 Speaker 4: Oh what a good hack to Neil, Thank you so 335 00:17:38,065 --> 00:17:39,465 Speaker 4: much for joining us on the show today. 336 00:17:39,505 --> 00:17:40,065 Speaker 3: My pleasure. 337 00:17:40,905 --> 00:17:43,505 Speaker 4: That's it for today's episode of In Her Bag. I 338 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:45,985 Speaker 4: hope you guys loved it. Make sure you tune back 339 00:17:45,985 --> 00:17:48,705 Speaker 4: in tomorrow for Spendy Sabe with Kelly and Lee talking 340 00:17:48,745 --> 00:17:51,385 Speaker 4: all things products and if you want even more beauty, 341 00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:53,745 Speaker 4: remember you can find a link to our beauty newsletter 342 00:17:53,785 --> 00:17:55,585 Speaker 4: in the show notes. I'll see you next week for 343 00:17:55,705 --> 00:18:04,825 Speaker 4: another makeup deep dive. Bye.