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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Mama Mia podcast. Mamma Mia

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pub

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm m Verna Kitch and on the show

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Speaker 2: today a new TV show announcement based off a best

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Speaker 2: selling memoir that has everyone talking as well as conflicted.

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Speaker 2: But first we have some breaking news. Sean Diddy Combs

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Speaker 2: has been found not guilty of the most serious sex charges.

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Speaker 2: He was accused of the charges being sex trafficking and

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Speaker 2: racketeering that could have put him behind bars for life.

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Speaker 2: So he was found guilty of two of the five charges,

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Speaker 2: and the charges he was found guilty of is a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wanted to kind of go through the

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Speaker 1: count Wang was racketeering conspiracy. This is the most serious

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Speaker 1: charge and that was up to life in prison if

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Speaker 1: that the Jewelry were liberate. They were deliberating on that

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Speaker 1: for quite a while, So that particular charge he was

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Speaker 1: found not guilty. Count two was sex trafficking of Ventura,

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Speaker 1: which is Cassie, and that held a minimum of fifteen

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Speaker 1: not guilty of that. The third count was transporting individuals,

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Speaker 1: including but not limited to Ventura Cassie to engage in prostitution,

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Speaker 1: a maximum sentence of ten years in prison. He was

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Speaker 1: found guilty of count three. Count four is sex trafficking

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Speaker 1: of Jane, which is a pseudonym, a minimum of fifteen

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Speaker 1: count was transporting individuals, including but not limited to Jane,

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Speaker 1: the pseudonym, to engage in prostitution, and that again is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So Jane is another one of Sean Combs's

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Speaker 2: Before we found out the verdict, it was made public

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Speaker 2: illegal activity of a criminal organization, but the RICO Act

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Speaker 2: defines racketeering activity as any act or threat that involves

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I think that Didy's team will be very

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Speaker 2: US District Judge Arun Subramanian said it is impossible for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have a lot to say on this,

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Speaker 2: which is based on Jeanette mccurty's best selling memoir I'm

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Speaker 1: So Jeanette is actually writing and show running this particular

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Speaker 2: And just from reading Jeanette's memoir, her mom is not

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Speaker 2: how Jennifer Andison plays this role because it is such

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Speaker 2: an interesting role to play. Thank you so much for

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