1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,344 --> 00:00:28,184 Speaker 2: From Mom and Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily 6 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:31,904 Speaker 2: pop culture fix. I'm cassemiel Luki and I'm Laura Brodnick, 7 00:00:32,184 --> 00:00:35,704 Speaker 2: and we have a very very exciting episode today to 8 00:00:35,784 --> 00:00:40,024 Speaker 2: celebrate seventy years of Disneyland Resort Magic, and it's going 9 00:00:40,104 --> 00:00:43,144 Speaker 2: to be all about Disney and I'm very excited. Laura's 10 00:00:43,264 --> 00:00:45,424 Speaker 2: very excited, and we're not ashamed to say that we 11 00:00:45,464 --> 00:00:46,664 Speaker 2: are Disney adults. 12 00:00:46,904 --> 00:00:48,824 Speaker 1: Yes, well, I mean, there's no wrong way to be 13 00:00:48,864 --> 00:00:50,904 Speaker 1: a Disney adult. But the way I identify as a 14 00:00:50,904 --> 00:00:54,184 Speaker 1: Disney adult is that I watched the Disney movies constantly 15 00:00:54,224 --> 00:00:56,624 Speaker 1: on a loop and with no children present, and I 16 00:00:56,704 --> 00:00:59,304 Speaker 1: listen to the Disney soundtracks over and over and over again. 17 00:00:59,544 --> 00:01:00,904 Speaker 1: And I love to go to Disneyland. 18 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:04,384 Speaker 2: Okay, so my very first experience at Disneyland, I never 19 00:01:04,424 --> 00:01:06,424 Speaker 2: went as a kid. I've only been one time, and 20 00:01:06,464 --> 00:01:09,104 Speaker 2: it was always a dream of mine growing up. And 21 00:01:09,464 --> 00:01:11,504 Speaker 2: when I was twenty one and I went to the States, 22 00:01:11,664 --> 00:01:13,304 Speaker 2: I said to my girlfriend, I was like, I really 23 00:01:13,304 --> 00:01:14,744 Speaker 2: really wanted to go to disney They just like, I've 24 00:01:14,744 --> 00:01:16,344 Speaker 2: been so many times, I don't really want to go. 25 00:01:17,504 --> 00:01:20,584 Speaker 2: And then the boy that we were hanging out with said, 26 00:01:21,024 --> 00:01:23,664 Speaker 2: I'll take you. So I went on a first date 27 00:01:23,664 --> 00:01:24,144 Speaker 2: to Disney. 28 00:01:24,224 --> 00:01:26,944 Speaker 1: It was the most romantic thing I have ever heard, and. 29 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:30,224 Speaker 3: We kissed under the fire Oh okay, those fireworks should 30 00:01:30,264 --> 00:01:32,904 Speaker 3: be borderline illegal, because if you've been in a Disneyland park, 31 00:01:32,944 --> 00:01:35,264 Speaker 3: the fireworks at the end of the night, if anyone 32 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:37,584 Speaker 3: asked me to marry them, no one has yet, but if. 33 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:40,104 Speaker 1: Anyone did, I would say yes, even a total stranger. 34 00:01:40,184 --> 00:01:42,984 Speaker 1: There's no more romantic moment. Obviously, going because a kid 35 00:01:43,024 --> 00:01:45,144 Speaker 1: is so amazing, but going as an adult for the 36 00:01:45,184 --> 00:01:46,944 Speaker 1: first time, because I did the same thing. Like, there 37 00:01:46,984 --> 00:01:49,104 Speaker 1: was no way my mum could afford to take four 38 00:01:49,184 --> 00:01:52,024 Speaker 1: kids to Disneyland, so I saved up all my money 39 00:01:52,064 --> 00:01:54,024 Speaker 1: from my first job and I went to the one 40 00:01:54,064 --> 00:01:56,464 Speaker 1: in Tokyo, and I remember just getting off the subway 41 00:01:56,504 --> 00:01:59,384 Speaker 1: platform and hearing Taylor's old at time and I just 42 00:01:59,424 --> 00:02:02,264 Speaker 1: heard a running because I'm like, I'm home and me. 43 00:02:02,304 --> 00:02:04,784 Speaker 2: It was so magical. It's like the best first date ever. 44 00:02:04,984 --> 00:02:08,384 Speaker 1: Sorry, Dan, Yeah, because you didn't end up marrying that guy, 45 00:02:08,464 --> 00:02:10,344 Speaker 1: which I feel like is a mistake on your behalf. 46 00:02:10,424 --> 00:02:12,104 Speaker 2: Well, nope, this is the thing. Like Dan and I 47 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:15,784 Speaker 2: were on a break like very rosso and Rachel and 48 00:02:15,944 --> 00:02:17,904 Speaker 2: it was just like I only saw this guy for 49 00:02:17,944 --> 00:02:19,784 Speaker 2: like two seconds. It was very quick, but it was 50 00:02:19,824 --> 00:02:20,704 Speaker 2: a really romantic date. 51 00:02:20,744 --> 00:02:22,184 Speaker 1: I really wanted to have someone that you've just had 52 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:24,024 Speaker 1: one perfect date with and it just sits as this 53 00:02:24,064 --> 00:02:25,824 Speaker 1: little like perfect moment real life. 54 00:02:26,024 --> 00:02:28,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, very special to me. So what we're going to 55 00:02:28,184 --> 00:02:30,544 Speaker 2: do is we to talk about our favorite Disney movies, 56 00:02:30,904 --> 00:02:34,184 Speaker 2: and we're gonna mostly talk about like your Disney classics. 57 00:02:34,264 --> 00:02:36,104 Speaker 2: So it's not going to be like Frozen or Tangled 58 00:02:36,184 --> 00:02:36,864 Speaker 2: or any of that stuff. 59 00:02:36,984 --> 00:02:39,424 Speaker 1: I just love those. But Love would be here for 60 00:02:39,464 --> 00:02:41,984 Speaker 1: six to seven hours, which to say, we both asked 61 00:02:42,024 --> 00:02:44,584 Speaker 1: if we could do a podcast marathon for ten hours. 62 00:02:44,584 --> 00:02:45,704 Speaker 1: That was vetoed and I. 63 00:02:45,664 --> 00:02:47,864 Speaker 2: Want to quickly just do a very quick history lesson. 64 00:02:48,064 --> 00:02:50,264 Speaker 2: So we've got our Golden Age, which is like when 65 00:02:50,264 --> 00:02:52,904 Speaker 2: it first started. So we've got nineteen thirty seven Snow White, 66 00:02:53,104 --> 00:02:55,824 Speaker 2: first full length feature film. We all know that that's 67 00:02:55,864 --> 00:02:58,104 Speaker 2: the story. We've got like Sleeping Beauty, which is in 68 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:01,184 Speaker 2: like fifty nine. Then there was like when Walt died 69 00:03:01,384 --> 00:03:03,704 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty six, it was kind of like this 70 00:03:03,784 --> 00:03:07,184 Speaker 2: big lull in the production and it was very very 71 00:03:07,224 --> 00:03:10,944 Speaker 2: close to closing the studio. Then that magic happened, which 72 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:15,064 Speaker 2: is the Renaissance of Disney, which is, as many millennials 73 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:17,744 Speaker 2: will know, like the peak of Disney, which is like 74 00:03:17,904 --> 00:03:20,584 Speaker 2: eighty nine to ninety nine. And that's kind of mostly 75 00:03:20,744 --> 00:03:24,024 Speaker 2: what we're going to be focusing on, yes, today, So Laura, 76 00:03:24,064 --> 00:03:25,504 Speaker 2: do you want to go first? 77 00:03:25,864 --> 00:03:28,664 Speaker 1: Yes, because actually I'm taking us right back to the beginning, 78 00:03:28,704 --> 00:03:32,984 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, with the very first big Disney movie, 79 00:03:33,264 --> 00:03:36,024 Speaker 1: Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. So that movie came 80 00:03:36,024 --> 00:03:39,184 Speaker 1: out in nineteen thirty seven. I wasn't currently alive at 81 00:03:39,184 --> 00:03:40,664 Speaker 1: that time. Can you believe. 82 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:42,904 Speaker 2: It's beautiful for being I did this. 83 00:03:43,424 --> 00:03:45,424 Speaker 1: It's the magic of Disney. It's kept me young in 84 00:03:45,464 --> 00:03:47,504 Speaker 1: like a wicked which kind of way. But I just 85 00:03:47,544 --> 00:03:50,144 Speaker 1: have just a visceral memory of watching that movie as 86 00:03:50,144 --> 00:03:52,704 Speaker 1: a kid and how freaking magical it was and the animation. 87 00:03:53,024 --> 00:03:54,624 Speaker 1: And I know some people look back on it now 88 00:03:54,624 --> 00:03:57,864 Speaker 1: and like, obviously the animation isn't as high tech as 89 00:03:58,064 --> 00:04:00,984 Speaker 1: what we see now, but that was the movie, as 90 00:04:00,984 --> 00:04:03,144 Speaker 1: you're saying, that started at all. And I just love 91 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:05,984 Speaker 1: the idea that Walt Disney wanted to make this big 92 00:04:06,024 --> 00:04:08,864 Speaker 1: animated movie that could play in cinemas, that could stand 93 00:04:08,944 --> 00:04:10,944 Speaker 1: up to like an action movie or something, you know 94 00:04:10,944 --> 00:04:12,904 Speaker 1: what I mean, and like that adults would want to 95 00:04:12,904 --> 00:04:15,424 Speaker 1: see it at the same time as kids. And everyone 96 00:04:15,464 --> 00:04:17,904 Speaker 1: said it couldn't be done. No one's going to see that, 97 00:04:17,944 --> 00:04:19,424 Speaker 1: it's not going to make any money, and then it 98 00:04:19,464 --> 00:04:22,144 Speaker 1: became such a success, such a box office hit, made 99 00:04:22,184 --> 00:04:26,424 Speaker 1: so much money, and every movie that we have now 100 00:04:26,584 --> 00:04:29,024 Speaker 1: is because of that. But I also think it's just 101 00:04:29,184 --> 00:04:33,224 Speaker 1: a very sweet, lovely movie and also quite terrifying. Like 102 00:04:33,224 --> 00:04:35,744 Speaker 1: don't you think the Witch in that movie is one 103 00:04:35,784 --> 00:04:37,384 Speaker 1: of the scariest Disney villains. 104 00:04:37,464 --> 00:04:40,464 Speaker 2: Some of them are very very scary, And now that 105 00:04:40,504 --> 00:04:42,544 Speaker 2: I watched some of the original movies with my kids, 106 00:04:42,544 --> 00:04:44,344 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, this is actually terrifying. 107 00:04:45,144 --> 00:04:47,304 Speaker 1: When she runs through the woods from the Huntsman, that's 108 00:04:47,304 --> 00:04:49,664 Speaker 1: what I mean. Disney movies High Stakes runs through the 109 00:04:49,704 --> 00:04:52,424 Speaker 1: woods and she falls through all of the trees and 110 00:04:52,464 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 1: the storm and everything. And then also when the Wicked 111 00:04:55,584 --> 00:04:57,384 Speaker 1: Queen changes. 112 00:04:57,064 --> 00:04:58,904 Speaker 2: When she's like the Wicked Queen and she chas the 113 00:04:58,904 --> 00:05:00,384 Speaker 2: old lady and she comes to the window. 114 00:05:02,064 --> 00:05:04,504 Speaker 1: That is even from the live action with Rachel Zegel, 115 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:07,144 Speaker 1: when you see the witch slowly walking up towards the 116 00:05:07,184 --> 00:05:09,664 Speaker 1: little cottage, I was like, that is the scariest scene 117 00:05:09,664 --> 00:05:10,344 Speaker 1: of a movie this year. 118 00:05:10,424 --> 00:05:10,584 Speaker 2: Yeah. 119 00:05:10,584 --> 00:05:13,224 Speaker 1: I think goes to show that practical effects always better 120 00:05:13,224 --> 00:05:15,504 Speaker 1: than any kind of cgi stuff. And I also think 121 00:05:15,544 --> 00:05:18,184 Speaker 1: the original Disney songs are just really beautiful, like whistle 122 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:21,104 Speaker 1: while you work. Some day my Prince will come really sweet. 123 00:05:21,104 --> 00:05:23,264 Speaker 1: And also I think a lot of people don't like 124 00:05:23,384 --> 00:05:25,664 Speaker 1: that the Prince doesn't get a lot of airtime in 125 00:05:25,704 --> 00:05:27,624 Speaker 1: Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Like you see him 126 00:05:27,664 --> 00:05:30,184 Speaker 1: briefly at the start, he comes along at the end 127 00:05:30,224 --> 00:05:32,504 Speaker 1: he kisses her and that's it. And I actually think 128 00:05:32,544 --> 00:05:35,024 Speaker 1: that's great, let's decentiment from our lives. But I think it. 129 00:05:35,144 --> 00:05:38,184 Speaker 2: Also he was the original Prince Charming, Like this is 130 00:05:38,224 --> 00:05:41,584 Speaker 2: the first time we got that trope right. That really 131 00:05:41,664 --> 00:05:45,784 Speaker 2: wasn't That wasn't the thing. Speaking of which, yes, my wine, Okay, 132 00:05:45,984 --> 00:05:48,584 Speaker 2: sleeping Beauty, which I know is also. 133 00:05:48,544 --> 00:05:51,664 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Sleeping Beauty, even though Princess 134 00:05:51,664 --> 00:05:53,784 Speaker 1: of Rora has what is it? Three minutes of dialogue 135 00:05:53,784 --> 00:05:56,584 Speaker 1: all up? It's great, she looks great. 136 00:05:56,704 --> 00:05:59,224 Speaker 2: It's amazing that and with the fairies and the changing 137 00:05:59,264 --> 00:06:02,104 Speaker 2: red blue, red blue, that was just and the cake scene. 138 00:06:02,384 --> 00:06:05,384 Speaker 2: But the thing that makes me the most nostalgic about 139 00:06:05,424 --> 00:06:08,624 Speaker 2: that movie is in the mornings, my dad used to 140 00:06:08,664 --> 00:06:10,824 Speaker 2: wake me up with the once upon a dream? 141 00:06:10,944 --> 00:06:16,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, ah know you why walk with you want far 142 00:06:16,944 --> 00:06:20,544 Speaker 1: on a dream. That's a big song in my family 143 00:06:20,584 --> 00:06:22,784 Speaker 1: as well. My sister's and I sing it all the time. 144 00:06:23,184 --> 00:06:25,304 Speaker 1: And my brother always pretends that he doesn't love Disney 145 00:06:25,304 --> 00:06:26,824 Speaker 1: movies as much as we do. But one day my 146 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:28,584 Speaker 1: sister was singing in her room and the bit where 147 00:06:28,584 --> 00:06:30,664 Speaker 1: the prince comes in, my brother burst through the door 148 00:06:30,744 --> 00:06:32,944 Speaker 1: and sung through the whole thing. We still reference it 149 00:06:32,984 --> 00:06:34,984 Speaker 1: to this day. That's a banger of a song. 150 00:06:35,384 --> 00:06:38,704 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful song and it just like makes me like, yeah, 151 00:06:38,864 --> 00:06:41,264 Speaker 2: it's just like for a special from me. It makes 152 00:06:41,304 --> 00:06:44,224 Speaker 2: me think of home and the red make it blue, 153 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:46,424 Speaker 2: make it pink, make it blue? And the cake like 154 00:06:46,464 --> 00:06:49,144 Speaker 2: have you said people make those cakes for their wedding cake? 155 00:06:49,224 --> 00:06:51,384 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what everyone should have at their wedding. 156 00:06:51,584 --> 00:06:53,904 Speaker 2: I loved that and the booms. It was just it's 157 00:06:53,904 --> 00:06:57,584 Speaker 2: a really good like that was kind of the first. 158 00:06:57,384 --> 00:07:00,344 Speaker 1: Introduction and also high stakes if we're getting into the 159 00:07:00,344 --> 00:07:02,344 Speaker 1: storytelling side of it, because you have some Disney movies, 160 00:07:02,344 --> 00:07:04,064 Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, this is gonna be fine. But 161 00:07:04,104 --> 00:07:06,304 Speaker 1: I think watching Sleeping Beauty as a kid, like the 162 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:10,864 Speaker 1: danger feels real. So Maleficent was scary, great villain villain, 163 00:07:11,184 --> 00:07:13,624 Speaker 1: and how like every Disney villain has the lime green 164 00:07:13,664 --> 00:07:16,144 Speaker 1: around to signify that they're the evil one. That moment 165 00:07:16,184 --> 00:07:18,344 Speaker 1: where she turns into the dragon and she comes up 166 00:07:18,384 --> 00:07:21,384 Speaker 1: and just great and very romantic dance at the end. 167 00:07:21,544 --> 00:07:23,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. 168 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:26,184 Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god. It was so hard to pick 169 00:07:26,304 --> 00:07:29,184 Speaker 1: just a few movies. Can I tell you, Out of 170 00:07:29,264 --> 00:07:31,224 Speaker 1: every huge work thing I've got to do this week, 171 00:07:31,264 --> 00:07:32,464 Speaker 1: this is the most difficult. 172 00:07:32,824 --> 00:07:35,824 Speaker 2: When it was mentioned that we were doing this, I 173 00:07:35,864 --> 00:07:37,544 Speaker 2: said that if I wasn't going to be on this 174 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:38,624 Speaker 2: episode that I would revolt. 175 00:07:39,504 --> 00:07:42,184 Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I just you just smashing the door out. 176 00:07:42,224 --> 00:07:43,104 Speaker 1: I would love to see that. 177 00:07:43,224 --> 00:07:45,864 Speaker 2: Like, I was like, I need to be in the 178 00:07:45,904 --> 00:07:49,344 Speaker 2: Disney this episode, particularly because it's come back into my 179 00:07:49,384 --> 00:07:51,344 Speaker 2: life in such a big way now that my kids 180 00:07:51,344 --> 00:07:55,304 Speaker 2: are old enough to be watching so cute. But what 181 00:07:55,504 --> 00:07:58,504 Speaker 2: is your now that we're entering three salts periods? 182 00:07:58,624 --> 00:08:00,344 Speaker 1: Well, yes, it's good that you bring up because this 183 00:08:00,384 --> 00:08:03,544 Speaker 1: movie is credited with kicking off the Disney renaissance. So 184 00:08:03,864 --> 00:08:05,344 Speaker 1: as a child, you know, that was the thing. I 185 00:08:05,344 --> 00:08:07,464 Speaker 1: just thought Disney had banger after banger after banger, but 186 00:08:07,744 --> 00:08:10,704 Speaker 1: this was like the next big swell of animation. And 187 00:08:10,744 --> 00:08:12,944 Speaker 1: it is The Little Mermaid, which came out in nineteen 188 00:08:12,984 --> 00:08:16,984 Speaker 1: eighty nine, and I think something about that movie even 189 00:08:17,024 --> 00:08:18,624 Speaker 1: to this day. When I watched, I get a chill. 190 00:08:18,664 --> 00:08:24,984 Speaker 1: It's so magical and otherworldly and action sequences great, and 191 00:08:25,384 --> 00:08:27,864 Speaker 1: I also just love how they were able to take 192 00:08:27,864 --> 00:08:32,504 Speaker 1: a story that was so dark and so like brutal. 193 00:08:32,664 --> 00:08:33,744 Speaker 1: You know, do you know the real story of The 194 00:08:33,744 --> 00:08:37,424 Speaker 1: Little Mermaid? Yeah, if anyone who hasn't read the original book, 195 00:08:37,464 --> 00:08:38,864 Speaker 1: which I had to read the book as a kid, 196 00:08:38,904 --> 00:08:42,144 Speaker 1: and I was just like, what where she gets her 197 00:08:42,224 --> 00:08:45,064 Speaker 1: legs from the Sea Witch, But when she's on Earth, 198 00:08:45,064 --> 00:08:48,024 Speaker 1: it's like she's walking on knives, so every step hurts, 199 00:08:48,304 --> 00:08:50,024 Speaker 1: and she doesn't get the Prince to fall in love 200 00:08:50,064 --> 00:08:51,864 Speaker 1: with her, and the Sea Witch she's like, well, you're 201 00:08:51,864 --> 00:08:53,904 Speaker 1: going to die unless you stab him in the heart 202 00:08:54,144 --> 00:08:56,064 Speaker 1: with this dagger. And she goes to do it when 203 00:08:56,104 --> 00:08:58,304 Speaker 1: he and his new wife are in bed, and then 204 00:08:58,344 --> 00:09:00,344 Speaker 1: she's like, I can't do it because she's a good person. 205 00:09:00,344 --> 00:09:03,104 Speaker 1: She's a little mermaid, and so the whole threat is 206 00:09:03,104 --> 00:09:05,464 Speaker 1: that when she dies. And I think about this every 207 00:09:05,504 --> 00:09:08,024 Speaker 1: time I go to the beach. If a mermaid dies, 208 00:09:08,104 --> 00:09:10,784 Speaker 1: they become the foam on the ocean waves, part of 209 00:09:10,824 --> 00:09:13,864 Speaker 1: the ocean, but like not really part of it. So 210 00:09:14,024 --> 00:09:15,784 Speaker 1: think about that next time you and your kids are 211 00:09:15,824 --> 00:09:18,424 Speaker 1: at the beach and tell them what that foam is. 212 00:09:18,464 --> 00:09:20,264 Speaker 2: And King Triton is babe. 213 00:09:20,544 --> 00:09:22,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the original in the movie, but then also 214 00:09:22,704 --> 00:09:25,504 Speaker 1: the original story, her sisters find a way to like 215 00:09:25,624 --> 00:09:27,344 Speaker 1: kind of save her soul and stuff. That's nice. So 216 00:09:27,784 --> 00:09:30,704 Speaker 1: the Disney movie different vibe, But yeah, I loved everything 217 00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:32,184 Speaker 1: about it. Like, so I feel like you actually get 218 00:09:32,224 --> 00:09:34,264 Speaker 1: to watch her and Eric fall in love. Yeah, I 219 00:09:34,304 --> 00:09:37,104 Speaker 1: feel like Sebastian's a great character, part of your world. 220 00:09:37,184 --> 00:09:41,984 Speaker 1: One of the most beautiful songs every know. 221 00:09:42,824 --> 00:09:45,344 Speaker 2: The people some of. 222 00:09:45,344 --> 00:09:50,184 Speaker 4: My questions and get some answers, what's the fire and 223 00:09:51,264 --> 00:09:52,024 Speaker 4: what's the word. 224 00:09:54,064 --> 00:09:56,064 Speaker 1: Such a banger of a song, so the original singer 225 00:09:56,144 --> 00:09:58,184 Speaker 1: when she was in the little sound booth trying to 226 00:09:58,184 --> 00:10:00,784 Speaker 1: record that, it was like all lit up, obviously it is, 227 00:10:00,824 --> 00:10:02,304 Speaker 1: and all the musicians were there and all the tech 228 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:04,784 Speaker 1: were there, and she just couldn't get it. She had 229 00:10:04,824 --> 00:10:06,624 Speaker 1: to end up like getting them to shut it off, 230 00:10:06,664 --> 00:10:08,664 Speaker 1: black it out, and she like sung with her head down. 231 00:10:09,064 --> 00:10:10,704 Speaker 1: She's like, I need to feel like I'm in this 232 00:10:10,824 --> 00:10:13,144 Speaker 1: underwater caven. I used to feel like I'm in darkness 233 00:10:13,144 --> 00:10:15,384 Speaker 1: and I'm picturing a world that I'm not part of, 234 00:10:15,384 --> 00:10:16,904 Speaker 1: and I can't do that with the light. So I 235 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:19,944 Speaker 1: always think of that story when I watch it. Also, 236 00:10:20,424 --> 00:10:22,264 Speaker 1: I think Ursula might be my favorite villain. 237 00:10:22,904 --> 00:10:23,584 Speaker 2: Love her right. 238 00:10:23,704 --> 00:10:26,144 Speaker 1: I love her as a kid, horrified. 239 00:10:26,304 --> 00:10:28,024 Speaker 2: She's such a diva. 240 00:10:28,584 --> 00:10:30,584 Speaker 1: I have a lot more respect for her now as 241 00:10:30,584 --> 00:10:32,584 Speaker 1: an adult. I was like, you were just a working 242 00:10:32,584 --> 00:10:35,584 Speaker 1: woman and a man like took your crown and you 243 00:10:35,624 --> 00:10:37,624 Speaker 1: were just trying to figure it out with his brady daughter. 244 00:10:37,784 --> 00:10:39,664 Speaker 1: So I see her side of it now. Well, there's 245 00:10:39,704 --> 00:10:42,424 Speaker 1: two scenes where she's terrifying. One is where she pulls 246 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,424 Speaker 1: herself up into the ship and she pulls herself along 247 00:10:44,424 --> 00:10:47,824 Speaker 1: really quickly with her hands. Sorry, that's not a kid's movie. 248 00:10:47,944 --> 00:10:50,744 Speaker 1: And then when she becomes like the giant giant, she 249 00:10:50,904 --> 00:10:52,824 Speaker 1: rises up above the seat, terrifying. 250 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:56,784 Speaker 2: But and Poor Unfortunate Souls is a great villain song. 251 00:10:57,304 --> 00:11:00,104 Speaker 2: I know that there's a little bit of like criticism 252 00:11:00,144 --> 00:11:04,504 Speaker 2: about it on reflection because Ariel can't speak, and there's 253 00:11:04,544 --> 00:11:07,904 Speaker 2: the whole kiss the girl. Yeah, it's like they changed 254 00:11:07,944 --> 00:11:11,504 Speaker 2: the lyric. Yeah, because you know, I know she doesn't 255 00:11:11,544 --> 00:11:13,464 Speaker 2: look like she wants it, but she does. Like it 256 00:11:13,584 --> 00:11:16,784 Speaker 2: was like this whole consent thing. But it's okay for 257 00:11:16,904 --> 00:11:21,344 Speaker 2: us to enjoy things in the moment. And that beautiful 258 00:11:21,864 --> 00:11:25,184 Speaker 2: scene you know where they're going through the willows and 259 00:11:25,984 --> 00:11:29,544 Speaker 2: you know, the brushing the hair with the fork. That's 260 00:11:29,624 --> 00:11:31,544 Speaker 2: just like so many classics. 261 00:11:31,104 --> 00:11:33,264 Speaker 1: To stay every time. And where somewhere now where I 262 00:11:33,304 --> 00:11:34,904 Speaker 1: think there could be a Mermaid, I do have a 263 00:11:34,904 --> 00:11:36,984 Speaker 1: look because part of me does still think that could happen. 264 00:11:37,224 --> 00:11:39,424 Speaker 1: I feel like you actually see her and Eric fall 265 00:11:39,464 --> 00:11:41,384 Speaker 1: in love. Yeah, and that's what I'm looking for now 266 00:11:41,504 --> 00:11:43,584 Speaker 1: my Disney stories. I'm looking for a love story that 267 00:11:43,624 --> 00:11:47,304 Speaker 1: I feel involved in. So Little Mermaid such a banger. 268 00:11:47,664 --> 00:11:51,184 Speaker 1: That scene where you see the castle for the first time. Yeah, well, 269 00:11:51,184 --> 00:11:52,304 Speaker 1: I cry in the pod. I don't know. 270 00:11:52,384 --> 00:11:55,784 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, And also I do think that and I 271 00:11:55,864 --> 00:11:57,624 Speaker 2: know I said this before, but King Tridon is like 272 00:11:57,664 --> 00:11:58,304 Speaker 2: original day. 273 00:11:58,584 --> 00:12:00,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so hot and he's only getting hot. I 274 00:12:00,944 --> 00:12:02,744 Speaker 1: guess this is appropriate. He's only getting hotter. 275 00:12:02,984 --> 00:12:04,104 Speaker 2: All the absolutely. 276 00:12:04,184 --> 00:12:07,264 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, and have you seen the Little Mermaid 277 00:12:07,304 --> 00:12:09,304 Speaker 1: movies that come, like the prequel series where he's like 278 00:12:09,304 --> 00:12:11,904 Speaker 1: a young hot trident hot. Yeah. 279 00:12:11,984 --> 00:12:14,544 Speaker 2: Now we're not going to talk about The Lion King 280 00:12:14,664 --> 00:12:17,704 Speaker 2: only because everybody loves The Lion King. We know it's 281 00:12:17,704 --> 00:12:20,864 Speaker 2: a wonderful movie. It's like the highest grossing. 282 00:12:21,264 --> 00:12:23,424 Speaker 1: It's not my top five for me, it is like, 283 00:12:23,504 --> 00:12:26,184 Speaker 1: oh really, okay, I would say it is probably. 284 00:12:25,904 --> 00:12:27,984 Speaker 2: One of the ones that I watched the most. It's 285 00:12:28,024 --> 00:12:30,104 Speaker 2: the most popular one. Oh yeah, for a reason. 286 00:12:30,264 --> 00:12:32,424 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I do like it, but it wouldn't 287 00:12:32,424 --> 00:12:33,584 Speaker 1: be on my own gunning top five. 288 00:12:33,704 --> 00:12:33,864 Speaker 4: Now. 289 00:12:33,904 --> 00:12:36,144 Speaker 2: The other one that I know is also really basic, 290 00:12:36,264 --> 00:12:39,584 Speaker 2: but is better basic movies. Here is the one that 291 00:12:39,664 --> 00:12:42,024 Speaker 2: I watched the most as a kid because I had 292 00:12:42,024 --> 00:12:45,064 Speaker 2: the VHS. If you don't know what VHTS tape is, 293 00:12:45,144 --> 00:12:47,624 Speaker 2: it's a square little thing that you put in and 294 00:12:48,104 --> 00:12:49,624 Speaker 2: you used to have to rewind it. I don't know 295 00:12:49,624 --> 00:12:53,424 Speaker 2: how many gen Z listeners we have, but VHS tapes Aladdin. 296 00:12:53,744 --> 00:12:57,264 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Aladdin. I know I've said 297 00:12:57,264 --> 00:12:59,944 Speaker 1: that about every movie. I remember. I saved up all 298 00:13:00,064 --> 00:13:03,184 Speaker 1: my birthday money to buy that VHS tape one year 299 00:13:03,224 --> 00:13:06,304 Speaker 1: and sorry, every point of that story is incredible. Yeah. 300 00:13:06,344 --> 00:13:10,664 Speaker 2: So, nineteen ninety two Aladdin came out and the and 301 00:13:10,704 --> 00:13:14,144 Speaker 2: I think this movie did so well. It was the 302 00:13:14,144 --> 00:13:17,344 Speaker 2: first time that Disney used a big celebrity voice for 303 00:13:17,384 --> 00:13:21,024 Speaker 2: the cast. Before then, they were kind of known, but 304 00:13:21,144 --> 00:13:21,944 Speaker 2: not known. 305 00:13:22,864 --> 00:13:26,424 Speaker 1: Voice after a lot of Broadway stars singing voice. Yeah. 306 00:13:26,624 --> 00:13:30,264 Speaker 2: So Robin Williams obviously was the big star of this 307 00:13:30,424 --> 00:13:32,384 Speaker 2: and that's the first time they did this, and it 308 00:13:32,464 --> 00:13:35,864 Speaker 2: is now probably one of the most common things that 309 00:13:35,904 --> 00:13:38,264 Speaker 2: Disney movies do now is they use the big names 310 00:13:38,304 --> 00:13:40,504 Speaker 2: to draw people in. Yeah, and so this is the 311 00:13:40,544 --> 00:13:45,144 Speaker 2: first time it happened. So Robin Williams, sixteen. 312 00:13:44,784 --> 00:13:47,984 Speaker 1: Hours of uh, I would believe it. 313 00:13:48,224 --> 00:13:50,424 Speaker 2: I would too. And what I wouldn't give to be 314 00:13:50,544 --> 00:13:54,224 Speaker 2: in that room. Sixteen hours of improvised content, a lot 315 00:13:54,224 --> 00:13:55,584 Speaker 2: of which they couldn't use it. 316 00:13:55,584 --> 00:14:00,464 Speaker 1: A Disney release the tapes, Disney release, the release the tape. 317 00:14:00,464 --> 00:14:01,264 Speaker 1: I want to see them. 318 00:14:01,624 --> 00:14:04,224 Speaker 2: And I know again there's the story of Robin Williams 319 00:14:04,264 --> 00:14:08,664 Speaker 2: getting quite upset because there were some merchandising issues with 320 00:14:08,864 --> 00:14:10,624 Speaker 2: the sort of head of Disney at the time, but 321 00:14:11,224 --> 00:14:14,184 Speaker 2: that kind of all got resolved in like the mid nineties, 322 00:14:14,224 --> 00:14:17,504 Speaker 2: so we can still enjoy that. But you know, for 323 00:14:17,664 --> 00:14:21,384 Speaker 2: so many people, particularly people of our age, that was 324 00:14:21,424 --> 00:14:25,184 Speaker 2: like our introduction to Robyn Williams as this comedic star. 325 00:14:25,504 --> 00:14:27,704 Speaker 2: And the also I feel like it was one of 326 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:33,544 Speaker 2: the first Disney movies to introduce adult humor that would 327 00:14:33,584 --> 00:14:34,664 Speaker 2: go over kids' heads. 328 00:14:34,784 --> 00:14:37,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, the scene where he goes into a brothel. Yeah, 329 00:14:37,384 --> 00:14:39,184 Speaker 1: didn't get that as a kid, probably only got it recently, 330 00:14:39,224 --> 00:14:41,064 Speaker 1: like last week now. I picked it up all. 331 00:14:40,984 --> 00:14:44,744 Speaker 2: Those like Jack Nicholson like impressions, like all of that, 332 00:14:45,024 --> 00:14:47,224 Speaker 2: And then I don't know if you've picked up on 333 00:14:47,424 --> 00:14:51,024 Speaker 2: the like Sebastian coming out of the book. There's scar 334 00:14:51,464 --> 00:14:54,624 Speaker 2: you know how the Sultan is building the tower. Yeah yeah, 335 00:14:54,664 --> 00:14:56,944 Speaker 2: if you look very close to the scar is there. 336 00:14:57,024 --> 00:14:58,904 Speaker 2: And the Lion King hadn't even come out yet. 337 00:14:58,944 --> 00:15:01,464 Speaker 1: The way they've started like peppering little bits and pieces 338 00:15:01,704 --> 00:15:05,224 Speaker 1: hid in movies is yeah, is yeah. So incredible. But yeah, 339 00:15:05,304 --> 00:15:07,304 Speaker 1: I know they made a lot of script changes around 340 00:15:07,384 --> 00:15:09,784 Speaker 1: like how Jasmine and Ladden would meet and like, yeah, 341 00:15:09,824 --> 00:15:12,744 Speaker 1: well they're done, would be even like change like who 342 00:15:12,784 --> 00:15:14,664 Speaker 1: Aladdin's Psyekick was going to be and all this sort 343 00:15:14,704 --> 00:15:17,144 Speaker 1: of stuff, But like the end result of where they landed, 344 00:15:17,504 --> 00:15:20,864 Speaker 1: I feel like is the perfect kind of like progression 345 00:15:20,944 --> 00:15:23,824 Speaker 1: of a love story like that. We're also making her 346 00:15:24,184 --> 00:15:26,264 Speaker 1: a lot of the Disney princesses had like a lot 347 00:15:26,304 --> 00:15:29,264 Speaker 1: of agency and like their own person even in those 348 00:15:29,264 --> 00:15:31,984 Speaker 1: really early days. But I think Judsmine in particular with 349 00:15:32,064 --> 00:15:33,824 Speaker 1: the whole like not wanting to settle for a husband 350 00:15:33,864 --> 00:15:36,704 Speaker 1: and stuff. Doesn't seem revolutionary now, but like back then 351 00:15:36,784 --> 00:15:40,504 Speaker 1: for a kids animated movie that was princess centered was huge. 352 00:15:40,584 --> 00:15:42,984 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the fact that she walks in on you know, 353 00:15:43,104 --> 00:15:45,504 Speaker 2: Sultan Jafar and Aladdin all talking and she's like, you 354 00:15:45,504 --> 00:15:47,304 Speaker 2: think you could do this, and like just just the 355 00:15:47,344 --> 00:15:49,384 Speaker 2: way she did that, there was a lot of sort 356 00:15:49,384 --> 00:15:52,824 Speaker 2: of strength in that. And Prince Ali one of the 357 00:15:52,824 --> 00:15:54,504 Speaker 2: best songs of all time. 358 00:15:54,704 --> 00:16:12,024 Speaker 5: Every Sally Strong as ten Regular Men, definitelys. 359 00:16:07,144 --> 00:16:08,504 Speaker 1: And same with the Whole New World one of the 360 00:16:08,544 --> 00:16:10,184 Speaker 1: best songs of all time. This is what I always 361 00:16:10,184 --> 00:16:13,024 Speaker 1: said people when they give me shit for listening to 362 00:16:13,184 --> 00:16:15,504 Speaker 1: because I listened to Disney songs pretty much every day, 363 00:16:15,624 --> 00:16:17,944 Speaker 1: at least multiple times a week. It's my main playlist. 364 00:16:18,464 --> 00:16:21,464 Speaker 1: And it's not because there's like this regression to childhood. 365 00:16:21,504 --> 00:16:23,624 Speaker 1: It's because the people who made those songs are the 366 00:16:23,664 --> 00:16:26,584 Speaker 1: best composers, the best lyricists, the best singers at the 367 00:16:26,624 --> 00:16:29,624 Speaker 1: time on those projects. So just because they're Disney movies 368 00:16:29,664 --> 00:16:32,104 Speaker 1: doesn't mean those songs aren't as good as like a 369 00:16:32,144 --> 00:16:33,304 Speaker 1: traditional Broadway song. 370 00:16:33,464 --> 00:16:35,824 Speaker 2: Well, and we know, I mean, if you know anything 371 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:39,184 Speaker 2: about like Disney history, you know that the speaking voice 372 00:16:39,184 --> 00:16:43,184 Speaker 2: of Jasmine is not the singing voice. Yes, so Leah Salonga, 373 00:16:43,264 --> 00:16:47,424 Speaker 2: who is probably one of the most iconic Disney women 374 00:16:48,104 --> 00:16:51,904 Speaker 2: of all time. She also sang in Mulan. It just 375 00:16:51,984 --> 00:16:56,144 Speaker 2: has the most perfect Disney princess voice. I just think 376 00:16:56,304 --> 00:16:58,944 Speaker 2: it was such a beautiful. A Whole New World was 377 00:16:58,984 --> 00:17:01,704 Speaker 2: so amazing. Now I can't remember his name, but the 378 00:17:01,824 --> 00:17:07,024 Speaker 2: gentleman who sung for Aladdin, apparently when they were recording 379 00:17:07,064 --> 00:17:09,064 Speaker 2: A Whole New World they were like falling in love, 380 00:17:09,384 --> 00:17:12,424 Speaker 2: oh my years' and they dated afterwards. 381 00:17:12,544 --> 00:17:14,464 Speaker 1: Sorry, if you're singing that song, especially the first time 382 00:17:14,504 --> 00:17:16,584 Speaker 1: you're falling in love. Oh okay, I feel like she 383 00:17:16,664 --> 00:17:18,384 Speaker 1: feel a bit seedy for am I to say next, 384 00:17:18,424 --> 00:17:20,704 Speaker 1: but not to take it away from this whole beautiful moment. 385 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:22,824 Speaker 1: But have you seen this whole thing that's happening lately 386 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:23,544 Speaker 1: of the hot Jafar? 387 00:17:24,184 --> 00:17:25,464 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, is kind of hot. 388 00:17:25,584 --> 00:17:30,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not incorrect. People are doing first edits of Jafar. Yeah, 389 00:17:30,184 --> 00:17:33,544 Speaker 1: and it's again, it's not completely off the table, but 390 00:17:33,584 --> 00:17:37,384 Speaker 1: as a kid, disgusting. As an adult, yeah, problematic face 391 00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:38,584 Speaker 1: kind of. 392 00:17:38,904 --> 00:17:42,184 Speaker 2: I So it's been very exciting for me because this 393 00:17:42,224 --> 00:17:46,464 Speaker 2: particular movie Mimi has just started asking to watch. Oh 394 00:17:46,544 --> 00:17:48,584 Speaker 2: I love that great taste on repeat? 395 00:17:48,704 --> 00:17:49,824 Speaker 1: What does she think of hot Jafar? 396 00:17:50,224 --> 00:17:53,824 Speaker 2: She finds a bit scary when he turns into the snake. Yeah, 397 00:17:54,144 --> 00:17:56,784 Speaker 2: that's it's quite scary. But she calls it Latin, oh, 398 00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:59,384 Speaker 2: which I thought is so because the first time she's like, Mama, 399 00:17:59,384 --> 00:18:01,824 Speaker 2: can I watch Latin? I was like, you want to 400 00:18:01,824 --> 00:18:04,424 Speaker 2: speak Latin? And then I realized it was a Laddin. 401 00:18:04,624 --> 00:18:08,904 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really nice to experience these movies with 402 00:18:09,024 --> 00:18:13,784 Speaker 2: my kids when they were such pore moments of my 403 00:18:13,984 --> 00:18:18,784 Speaker 2: childhood and seeing them enjoy it. I honestly like almost 404 00:18:18,824 --> 00:18:21,384 Speaker 2: tear it up. Like I was so emotional when she 405 00:18:21,664 --> 00:18:22,064 Speaker 2: liked it. 406 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:24,984 Speaker 1: That is very emotional. Also, it's good life building lessons 407 00:18:24,984 --> 00:18:29,384 Speaker 1: because not to sound crazy or anything, but kids movies today, 408 00:18:29,864 --> 00:18:32,384 Speaker 1: cad all the kids a bit is my thinking back 409 00:18:32,384 --> 00:18:34,584 Speaker 1: in our day. It's like, oh, baby's mother shot in 410 00:18:34,584 --> 00:18:37,824 Speaker 1: the face. He wasn't dead. You know this Steaks high 411 00:18:38,264 --> 00:18:40,704 Speaker 1: snake attacking you. You know what I mean, Like Steak's 412 00:18:40,784 --> 00:18:41,704 Speaker 1: High real danger. 413 00:18:41,904 --> 00:18:44,944 Speaker 2: One of my all time favorites. I watched that one, 414 00:18:45,464 --> 00:18:47,704 Speaker 2: even the Return of Jafar, which was straight to. 415 00:18:47,704 --> 00:18:51,304 Speaker 1: The Did you ever watch the Aladdin series on Saturday 416 00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:53,224 Speaker 1: Disney in the morning, Oh my god, Oh my god, 417 00:18:53,264 --> 00:18:55,624 Speaker 1: get me to watch that. It's a it's a serialized 418 00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:58,864 Speaker 1: story of Aladdin and Judzmine, So it happens between the 419 00:18:58,904 --> 00:19:01,904 Speaker 1: events of Aladdin and returned to Jafar, and it's like 420 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:03,824 Speaker 1: mini episodes. Yeah, it's really good. 421 00:19:03,944 --> 00:19:06,504 Speaker 2: I just think that Robin Williams just really made that 422 00:19:06,784 --> 00:19:12,264 Speaker 2: and is really one of the most iconic Okay speaking 423 00:19:12,424 --> 00:19:14,384 Speaker 2: of Leah Salanga, Oh my. 424 00:19:14,344 --> 00:19:16,744 Speaker 1: God, yes, Okay, I love I get this same mortle 425 00:19:16,824 --> 00:19:18,904 Speaker 1: excitement for every movie. I just want to like quit 426 00:19:18,904 --> 00:19:20,664 Speaker 1: my job and go watch Disney movies, which maybe I'll 427 00:19:20,664 --> 00:19:22,984 Speaker 1: do after this A very special movie that came out 428 00:19:22,984 --> 00:19:26,424 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. Al Mullan again a different kind 429 00:19:26,464 --> 00:19:28,584 Speaker 1: of entry to the Disney Princess in terms of it's 430 00:19:28,624 --> 00:19:31,424 Speaker 1: based on a legend, but taking away from some of 431 00:19:31,464 --> 00:19:35,224 Speaker 1: those different storybook elements that we've seen retold many times, 432 00:19:35,264 --> 00:19:38,424 Speaker 1: Like my first introduction to the myth of Milan and 433 00:19:38,464 --> 00:19:42,384 Speaker 1: like her importance and that story was through this Disney movie. Yeah, 434 00:19:42,464 --> 00:19:44,424 Speaker 1: which I love because you're watching it and you're just 435 00:19:44,464 --> 00:19:47,184 Speaker 1: as a child, like getting all this information about this 436 00:19:47,224 --> 00:19:48,384 Speaker 1: person for the first time. 437 00:19:48,664 --> 00:19:51,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's what made it so special. 438 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:53,824 Speaker 2: And I know that we have Shane who kind of 439 00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:57,464 Speaker 2: is like the hero and safes, but the majority of 440 00:19:57,504 --> 00:20:01,064 Speaker 2: the stories about haw Milan is saving the men and 441 00:20:01,144 --> 00:20:04,064 Speaker 2: she's the strength. You know, she doesn't want to be 442 00:20:05,024 --> 00:20:08,544 Speaker 2: sold off to a man. Like Reflection is one of 443 00:20:08,584 --> 00:20:12,384 Speaker 2: the most beautiful songs, talking about like self worth and 444 00:20:12,864 --> 00:20:15,784 Speaker 2: who do I want to be? And that is just 445 00:20:15,824 --> 00:20:18,824 Speaker 2: such a beautiful moment for me. But again, a great 446 00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:23,064 Speaker 2: sidekick Eddie Murphy as Mushu, like, yeah, I'm sorry, Disney. 447 00:20:23,184 --> 00:20:24,624 Speaker 2: The fact that they kicked him out of the live 448 00:20:24,664 --> 00:20:25,184 Speaker 2: action one. 449 00:20:25,984 --> 00:20:27,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it in a little bit of mooshoe 450 00:20:27,704 --> 00:20:29,304 Speaker 1: in there. And again, I think the other thing I 451 00:20:29,304 --> 00:20:31,664 Speaker 1: love about Disney is like a lot of the lead 452 00:20:31,704 --> 00:20:34,184 Speaker 1: female characters do feel like the hero, even if they're 453 00:20:34,184 --> 00:20:37,104 Speaker 1: not doing the more traditional hero role of like picking 454 00:20:37,184 --> 00:20:38,944 Speaker 1: up a sort of baddly like they're a hero in 455 00:20:38,944 --> 00:20:41,824 Speaker 1: a different way. But she did a sword, and even 456 00:20:41,904 --> 00:20:43,304 Speaker 1: just like doing it in the way she did it 457 00:20:43,344 --> 00:20:45,784 Speaker 1: to protect her family and watching her go through oh 458 00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:49,224 Speaker 1: so much. Also the songs in this every song ten 459 00:20:49,224 --> 00:20:51,864 Speaker 1: out of ten banger reflection, but also I'll make a 460 00:20:51,904 --> 00:20:56,824 Speaker 1: Man out of You through Ah make a Man out 461 00:20:56,864 --> 00:21:01,224 Speaker 1: of You. Is still seeing that song out loud to 462 00:21:01,264 --> 00:21:03,344 Speaker 1: each other all the time, And sometimes my nephew is like, 463 00:21:03,464 --> 00:21:04,624 Speaker 1: be quiet, and I was like, you know what, you 464 00:21:04,704 --> 00:21:09,944 Speaker 1: be quiet? Yeah, exactly the fear in that movie. And 465 00:21:09,984 --> 00:21:11,744 Speaker 1: like again like the final. 466 00:21:11,464 --> 00:21:13,344 Speaker 2: Battles and terrifying, Oh my. 467 00:21:13,304 --> 00:21:15,864 Speaker 1: God, again so beautifully done with like the humanity. Oh 468 00:21:15,944 --> 00:21:18,624 Speaker 1: my god, Milan, what a classic. Anyway, what's your next one? 469 00:21:18,824 --> 00:21:19,344 Speaker 1: Be here all day? 470 00:21:19,424 --> 00:21:21,584 Speaker 2: Okay, my next one is Hercules. 471 00:21:21,984 --> 00:21:25,784 Speaker 1: Oh my god, freaking love love love Hercules. 472 00:21:25,824 --> 00:21:28,464 Speaker 2: Now the reason I love Hercules is because number one, 473 00:21:28,504 --> 00:21:30,984 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of Greek mythology. Although if we're 474 00:21:30,984 --> 00:21:33,864 Speaker 2: going to be really finicky about the whole thing, Hercules 475 00:21:33,944 --> 00:21:37,464 Speaker 2: is actually the Roman name for the myth, and Heracles 476 00:21:37,584 --> 00:21:39,624 Speaker 2: is the Greek name, and this is based in Greek myth, 477 00:21:39,784 --> 00:21:41,824 Speaker 2: but we won't get into that because we don't need 478 00:21:41,864 --> 00:21:43,944 Speaker 2: to do like a full history lesson on Greek mythology. 479 00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,624 Speaker 2: I think the reason this one is a bit of 480 00:21:46,624 --> 00:21:49,464 Speaker 2: a favorite of mine is because the Muses and the 481 00:21:49,504 --> 00:21:52,984 Speaker 2: gospel element of it, because it's such a nice introduction 482 00:21:53,104 --> 00:21:57,064 Speaker 2: of a different kind of music in a Disney film, 483 00:21:57,384 --> 00:22:00,944 Speaker 2: and Meg being this kind of like, I don't want 484 00:22:00,984 --> 00:22:03,544 Speaker 2: this guy, I like yest with her, don't say I'm 485 00:22:03,584 --> 00:22:07,584 Speaker 2: in love, and the Muses like coming in and I 486 00:22:07,624 --> 00:22:10,864 Speaker 2: love that. Apart from Go the Distance, the key music 487 00:22:10,904 --> 00:22:14,864 Speaker 2: comes from the Muses, and the key music is gospel music. 488 00:22:15,624 --> 00:22:19,344 Speaker 2: James Woods, who plays Hades, actually says it's one of 489 00:22:19,384 --> 00:22:21,224 Speaker 2: his favorite roles of all time. 490 00:22:21,384 --> 00:22:23,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would believe that. Wait, do you know who 491 00:22:23,264 --> 00:22:26,744 Speaker 1: is the voice of Hercules. Tate Donovan, who is Marissa 492 00:22:26,744 --> 00:22:29,704 Speaker 1: Cooper's dad from The OC So think about that next 493 00:22:29,744 --> 00:22:32,624 Speaker 1: time you're watching it, yeah, kind of takes the sexiness 494 00:22:32,624 --> 00:22:34,024 Speaker 1: out of it. No, he was hot at the time. 495 00:22:34,504 --> 00:22:36,744 Speaker 1: I love Hercules for so many reasons. One, I just 496 00:22:36,744 --> 00:22:40,264 Speaker 1: think the story is so beautifully told, and again, the 497 00:22:40,344 --> 00:22:43,104 Speaker 1: stakes are so high, the songs are incredible. But I 498 00:22:43,184 --> 00:22:46,704 Speaker 1: love Megra as a character because again I think, like again, 499 00:22:46,704 --> 00:22:49,744 Speaker 1: I love all my Disney princesses equally, but also seeing 500 00:22:49,744 --> 00:22:52,864 Speaker 1: someone who wasn't seen as like traditionally like good and 501 00:22:52,904 --> 00:22:56,704 Speaker 1: like virtuous, and she's a street smart lady who knows 502 00:22:56,704 --> 00:22:58,864 Speaker 1: what's going on. And I think their love story is 503 00:22:58,904 --> 00:23:00,664 Speaker 1: one of the best because it feels really earned at 504 00:23:00,704 --> 00:23:03,264 Speaker 1: the end when he jumps into the souls of the 505 00:23:03,384 --> 00:23:05,184 Speaker 1: end and is that the most romantic thing you've ever 506 00:23:05,224 --> 00:23:05,984 Speaker 1: seen before? 507 00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:08,464 Speaker 2: I also really love the reason And the other reason 508 00:23:08,544 --> 00:23:11,664 Speaker 2: why I like this is because they use the classic 509 00:23:11,744 --> 00:23:18,304 Speaker 2: Greek myths. You know, we've got Heracles, Hercules is seven missions, the. 510 00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:20,624 Speaker 1: Seven num Yeah, tasty seven tasks. 511 00:23:21,584 --> 00:23:23,584 Speaker 2: We've got you know, the Hydra, there's the you know, 512 00:23:23,624 --> 00:23:25,544 Speaker 2: the three of the Dog, there's the like there's all 513 00:23:25,584 --> 00:23:28,944 Speaker 2: of these myths that come into it. But then they 514 00:23:29,064 --> 00:23:32,824 Speaker 2: do like the air Jordan thing with fear and panic, 515 00:23:33,144 --> 00:23:37,984 Speaker 2: wearing like dispoaking shoes and drinking the Hercules, putting all 516 00:23:38,024 --> 00:23:41,304 Speaker 2: of those like modern nineties elements into it, and like 517 00:23:41,344 --> 00:23:44,704 Speaker 2: the fandom of Hercules. I think that just kind of 518 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,584 Speaker 2: lightens it and makes it really fun. And that's what 519 00:23:47,744 --> 00:23:49,384 Speaker 2: made me really really enjoy. 520 00:23:49,144 --> 00:23:53,024 Speaker 1: There's so many like live action adaptations of Hercules with 521 00:23:53,104 --> 00:23:58,304 Speaker 1: these incredible Yeah yeah, hot, I wasn't thinking of that, 522 00:23:58,344 --> 00:24:00,784 Speaker 1: but yeah, there's all these TV shows and movies, and 523 00:24:00,824 --> 00:24:03,504 Speaker 1: I actually have to say controversial opinion. I think the 524 00:24:03,584 --> 00:24:07,664 Speaker 1: animated movie captures like the essence of Hercules as a 525 00:24:07,744 --> 00:24:11,104 Speaker 1: character the best, this struggle between a god and being 526 00:24:11,104 --> 00:24:13,144 Speaker 1: a human and like what he faces and stuff. It 527 00:24:13,184 --> 00:24:16,184 Speaker 1: captures it in a way that the big screen adaptations don't. Also, 528 00:24:16,344 --> 00:24:17,744 Speaker 1: Danny DeVito is phil. 529 00:24:17,704 --> 00:24:20,104 Speaker 2: Yes beautiful his song that he sings the movie. 530 00:24:20,144 --> 00:24:21,624 Speaker 1: I play that a lot. It's one of my favorite 531 00:24:21,664 --> 00:24:25,384 Speaker 1: walking to works. Yah. Yeah, it's really it's so good. 532 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,384 Speaker 1: The beat is so good. 533 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:29,144 Speaker 2: I also just really love the representation of all the 534 00:24:29,184 --> 00:24:32,344 Speaker 2: other gods, like how they're all quite like they're like 535 00:24:32,464 --> 00:24:36,064 Speaker 2: pink and blue, and like Mountain the Olympus looks really magical, 536 00:24:36,304 --> 00:24:42,824 Speaker 2: and it's just a really pretty interpretation of this Greek 537 00:24:42,904 --> 00:24:45,744 Speaker 2: myth that has been around for thousands and thousands of years, 538 00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:48,584 Speaker 2: and I honestly think that that's kind of what started 539 00:24:48,744 --> 00:24:50,584 Speaker 2: my obsession with Greek mythology. 540 00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:54,104 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. And also I not usually say this, 541 00:24:54,224 --> 00:24:56,024 Speaker 1: but bring on the live action. I actually do want 542 00:24:56,024 --> 00:24:58,544 Speaker 1: to see this live action. I can't picture in my 543 00:24:58,584 --> 00:24:59,904 Speaker 1: head how they would do it, so I want to 544 00:24:59,944 --> 00:25:00,224 Speaker 1: see it. 545 00:25:00,424 --> 00:25:03,024 Speaker 2: They are talking about it, but I think there's been 546 00:25:03,064 --> 00:25:04,864 Speaker 2: some discussion about the muses. 547 00:25:04,864 --> 00:25:06,304 Speaker 1: But I actually want to see this one. 548 00:25:06,304 --> 00:25:09,624 Speaker 2: But they need gospel singers, like amazing gospel singers to 549 00:25:09,664 --> 00:25:12,864 Speaker 2: beat the music, and because they sing most of the songs, 550 00:25:13,504 --> 00:25:14,384 Speaker 2: that is the key. 551 00:25:14,224 --> 00:25:18,224 Speaker 1: Casting at one point, Yes, very much O. Okay Laura, Okay, 552 00:25:18,264 --> 00:25:19,904 Speaker 1: I know I said I wouldn't pick a favorite, but 553 00:25:19,904 --> 00:25:22,504 Speaker 1: I am slightly because I did save my favorite favorite 554 00:25:22,504 --> 00:25:23,904 Speaker 1: Disney movie until last. 555 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:25,224 Speaker 2: And I don't know what this one is. 556 00:25:25,704 --> 00:25:27,224 Speaker 1: It's Beauty and the Beast. 557 00:25:27,784 --> 00:25:34,664 Speaker 4: Taylor, as old as time, true as it can be, 558 00:25:38,064 --> 00:25:43,064 Speaker 4: barely even friends. 559 00:25:41,344 --> 00:25:44,344 Speaker 1: Somebody tailors all the time. The best Disney movie of 560 00:25:44,384 --> 00:25:47,784 Speaker 1: all time in my humble opinion, for so many reasons, 561 00:25:47,824 --> 00:25:49,704 Speaker 1: like as a kid obsessed with it, as an adult 562 00:25:49,744 --> 00:25:51,904 Speaker 1: so obsessed with it. I just think that again everything 563 00:25:51,944 --> 00:25:54,624 Speaker 1: about Bell's character, also not being a princess, that idea 564 00:25:54,704 --> 00:25:57,344 Speaker 1: of like nothing I wanted more as a kid, was 565 00:25:57,384 --> 00:25:59,944 Speaker 1: that idea of like being in that like a farm girl, 566 00:26:00,024 --> 00:26:01,944 Speaker 1: or you know, that idea of like wanting to break it. 567 00:26:02,024 --> 00:26:04,064 Speaker 1: Not that I was a farm girl, but that idea 568 00:26:04,104 --> 00:26:06,304 Speaker 1: of like feeling like you were living a small life 569 00:26:06,384 --> 00:26:09,304 Speaker 1: and wanting to break out into a bigger one. Like 570 00:26:09,504 --> 00:26:11,584 Speaker 1: that line where she's like, I want much more than 571 00:26:11,624 --> 00:26:12,464 Speaker 1: a provincial life. 572 00:26:12,744 --> 00:26:15,664 Speaker 2: And I still think about that, and look, there goes Belle. 573 00:26:15,784 --> 00:26:19,504 Speaker 2: She's strange but special. Yeah, you know, just because she's 574 00:26:19,544 --> 00:26:22,264 Speaker 2: got her nose in a book and she's like running 575 00:26:22,264 --> 00:26:24,464 Speaker 2: around like it's just it kind of ye. 576 00:26:24,744 --> 00:26:26,744 Speaker 1: It's an idea of like looking at the heroine of 577 00:26:26,984 --> 00:26:28,904 Speaker 1: a kid's movie, where you know, like when you're little, 578 00:26:28,904 --> 00:26:30,744 Speaker 1: you'd be like, who's the prettiest princess and who has 579 00:26:30,784 --> 00:26:32,384 Speaker 1: the best stress. We used to talk about that in 580 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,504 Speaker 1: depth a lot still do actually my sisters and I. 581 00:26:34,744 --> 00:26:37,024 Speaker 1: But also this idea that Belle like, yeah, she's still 582 00:26:37,064 --> 00:26:38,984 Speaker 1: the most beautiful girl in town. It's very important for 583 00:26:39,024 --> 00:26:40,664 Speaker 1: a Disney movie for the hero always to be the 584 00:26:40,664 --> 00:26:44,184 Speaker 1: most beautiful but that idea of like very smart, not 585 00:26:44,344 --> 00:26:47,104 Speaker 1: conforming to like this idea of people what people want 586 00:26:47,184 --> 00:26:49,824 Speaker 1: going off to have this adventure. I love the whole 587 00:26:49,864 --> 00:26:53,104 Speaker 1: Cursed Castle. The music is incredible, but again I just 588 00:26:53,104 --> 00:26:57,384 Speaker 1: feel like Belle and the Beast love story is so unique. 589 00:26:57,544 --> 00:27:00,584 Speaker 1: I also love the idea that the villain is just 590 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:05,424 Speaker 1: really yeah, really hot. That's important, but also the most 591 00:27:05,544 --> 00:27:09,064 Speaker 1: terrifying thing you can have. It's a man who thinks 592 00:27:09,064 --> 00:27:12,184 Speaker 1: that he knows best and is like take away your agency, 593 00:27:12,344 --> 00:27:15,104 Speaker 1: and that's way worse than a sea witch or the 594 00:27:15,144 --> 00:27:18,064 Speaker 1: god of death or anything. It's a dangerous man who 595 00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:19,944 Speaker 1: thinks he knows better, and that is what Gaston is. 596 00:27:20,064 --> 00:27:24,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean Gaston song as well is also 597 00:27:24,744 --> 00:27:26,864 Speaker 2: like one of my favorite and it has like. 598 00:27:26,824 --> 00:27:29,024 Speaker 1: One of those traditional Disney deaths too, because if you 599 00:27:29,104 --> 00:27:32,384 Speaker 1: notice it, like in all those classic Disney movies, you 600 00:27:32,464 --> 00:27:36,104 Speaker 1: can't have the hero or the heroine kill the villain 601 00:27:36,264 --> 00:27:37,304 Speaker 1: physically in any way. 602 00:27:37,544 --> 00:27:38,344 Speaker 2: It's a lot of falling. 603 00:27:38,984 --> 00:27:42,024 Speaker 1: It takes away from them being these pure people, but 604 00:27:42,064 --> 00:27:44,584 Speaker 1: at the same time, you need the villain to die, 605 00:27:44,704 --> 00:27:46,584 Speaker 1: so everyone falls to their death. 606 00:27:47,144 --> 00:27:49,704 Speaker 2: It is primarily if you go back and look at 607 00:27:49,744 --> 00:27:53,504 Speaker 2: all the Disney movies, most of the villains die from 608 00:27:53,664 --> 00:27:56,864 Speaker 2: falling to their death. Jafar doesn't actually die, No, it. 609 00:27:56,904 --> 00:27:59,704 Speaker 1: Just gets locked in a lamp Urshula does get run 610 00:27:59,744 --> 00:28:01,024 Speaker 1: through with a ship, but I think that was like 611 00:28:01,024 --> 00:28:04,904 Speaker 1: maybe it's because she's a woman. I'm say, like she 612 00:28:05,024 --> 00:28:07,264 Speaker 1: can die. But like, especially with Gaston, because it was 613 00:28:07,304 --> 00:28:09,624 Speaker 1: a human on human death, they had to have Belle 614 00:28:09,704 --> 00:28:11,904 Speaker 1: like try and save him, but him fall because of 615 00:28:11,944 --> 00:28:14,584 Speaker 1: his own like wrongdoing. So you're getting a lesson, but 616 00:28:14,704 --> 00:28:16,424 Speaker 1: your hero comes out of it Unsayeah. 617 00:28:16,584 --> 00:28:18,384 Speaker 2: A lot of the times, Yeah, the villain deaths are 618 00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:21,144 Speaker 2: not because of the hero, it's because of their own. 619 00:28:21,224 --> 00:28:23,304 Speaker 1: It's yeah, exactly. And the hero would have tried to 620 00:28:23,304 --> 00:28:25,904 Speaker 1: stop it, and Hades was already dead, so yeah, so 621 00:28:25,944 --> 00:28:28,304 Speaker 1: he's fine. So and he came back. Okay. Have you 622 00:28:28,384 --> 00:28:31,464 Speaker 1: noticed how the dancing scene in Being the Beast mirrors 623 00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:34,344 Speaker 1: the dancing scene in Sleeping Beauty. Yes, and it's because 624 00:28:34,344 --> 00:28:35,864 Speaker 1: they were running out of time so they use the 625 00:28:35,864 --> 00:28:38,624 Speaker 1: same animation block, which I don't even care. Also, on 626 00:28:38,664 --> 00:28:40,264 Speaker 1: a note of that, people have said to me when 627 00:28:40,264 --> 00:28:42,664 Speaker 1: I say it's my favorite Disney movie, they'll be like, oh, 628 00:28:42,704 --> 00:28:44,944 Speaker 1: but don't you find it a real letdown that she 629 00:28:45,064 --> 00:28:46,784 Speaker 1: wanted to go have this big life and she ended 630 00:28:46,864 --> 00:28:49,424 Speaker 1: up getting married anyway. And to that, I say, she 631 00:28:49,544 --> 00:28:53,184 Speaker 1: still got married in a magical castle to print full 632 00:28:53,224 --> 00:28:55,704 Speaker 1: of books, and in my head she went and had 633 00:28:55,744 --> 00:28:57,824 Speaker 1: many adventures after that, so I don't feel like she 634 00:28:57,864 --> 00:28:58,424 Speaker 1: was a failure. 635 00:28:58,584 --> 00:29:00,504 Speaker 2: And Okay, I feel like we keep saying this is 636 00:29:00,544 --> 00:29:03,264 Speaker 2: the best song, but Taylor's Oldest time, Oh my God, 637 00:29:03,384 --> 00:29:06,744 Speaker 2: so Good definitely does top in terms of like the 638 00:29:06,864 --> 00:29:11,824 Speaker 2: Disney catalog works as a theme song for the whole 639 00:29:11,864 --> 00:29:12,464 Speaker 2: of Disney. 640 00:29:12,544 --> 00:29:14,344 Speaker 1: Really, it has become the Disney song. 641 00:29:14,424 --> 00:29:14,624 Speaker 2: Yeah. 642 00:29:14,704 --> 00:29:18,184 Speaker 1: Angela Lansbury ten out of ten for that song, oh Everything, 643 00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:20,464 Speaker 1: and also voiced by one of my favorite Broadway stars, 644 00:29:20,504 --> 00:29:23,504 Speaker 1: Paige Ohara. Her voices bell and her voice was so beautiful. 645 00:29:23,224 --> 00:29:24,704 Speaker 2: And I actually quite liked the live action. 646 00:29:24,904 --> 00:29:25,944 Speaker 1: I liked elements of it. 647 00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:29,144 Speaker 2: Okay, we don't need to go, we don't need to go. 648 00:29:29,064 --> 00:29:31,504 Speaker 1: Into we don't yell Yeah, Beauty and the Beast ten 649 00:29:31,544 --> 00:29:33,264 Speaker 1: out of ten and Magic or every time I see that, 650 00:29:33,304 --> 00:29:35,864 Speaker 1: like that opening scene of a castle, like my heart 651 00:29:35,864 --> 00:29:38,144 Speaker 1: starts to beat, and Disney Movies is just the best. 652 00:29:38,504 --> 00:29:40,584 Speaker 2: I know. People get made fun of I know like 653 00:29:40,624 --> 00:29:43,024 Speaker 2: these things that it can be problematic, but don't ruin 654 00:29:43,104 --> 00:29:43,984 Speaker 2: my childhood. 655 00:29:44,384 --> 00:29:46,424 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what a good movie is a good 656 00:29:46,504 --> 00:29:48,624 Speaker 1: movie at any age. I tell a lot of adults 657 00:29:48,624 --> 00:29:51,224 Speaker 1: who like, oh, I haven't seen the original Little Murmato, 658 00:29:51,224 --> 00:29:52,424 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a Light eight, And I was like, 659 00:29:52,464 --> 00:29:54,864 Speaker 1: sit down and watch it because good dialogue and good 660 00:29:54,944 --> 00:29:58,184 Speaker 1: songs and good storytelling. Just because it's animated, it transcends that. 661 00:29:58,304 --> 00:30:00,384 Speaker 1: So if you're an adult who hasn't watched these movies, 662 00:30:00,864 --> 00:30:02,184 Speaker 1: you can still watch them now. 663 00:30:02,344 --> 00:30:04,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can go into like later Disney later, 664 00:30:04,824 --> 00:30:06,704 Speaker 2: but this was just we had to focus on one 665 00:30:06,744 --> 00:30:09,864 Speaker 2: thing because otherwise we would be here for literally two hours. 666 00:30:09,984 --> 00:30:12,144 Speaker 2: So hope you guys liked it. 667 00:30:12,264 --> 00:30:14,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, let us do your favorite Disney movies. Obviously we 668 00:30:14,784 --> 00:30:16,664 Speaker 1: missed a few, but your favorite Disney movies we can 669 00:30:16,704 --> 00:30:18,864 Speaker 1: add to the list. And I can't wait talk Rome 670 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:21,344 Speaker 1: from work today because that Disney playlist on my phone 671 00:30:21,384 --> 00:30:22,224 Speaker 1: is going to be pumping. 672 00:30:22,744 --> 00:30:25,784 Speaker 2: I already did pre listening before this record. Thank you 673 00:30:25,864 --> 00:30:27,344 Speaker 2: so much for listening to the Spill today. 674 00:30:27,344 --> 00:30:27,584 Speaker 4: Guys. 675 00:30:27,664 --> 00:30:31,144 Speaker 2: We hope that you loved your Disney episode as much 676 00:30:31,184 --> 00:30:35,304 Speaker 2: as we did. The Spill is produced by Manisha Iswarren 677 00:30:35,424 --> 00:30:38,704 Speaker 2: with sound production by Scott Strotok. Now, don't forget to 678 00:30:38,704 --> 00:30:41,184 Speaker 2: listen to Morning Tea at eight am Monday to Thursday. 679 00:30:41,544 --> 00:30:44,144 Speaker 2: But we will be back in your FeAs tomorrow at 680 00:30:44,184 --> 00:30:51,304 Speaker 2: three pm. Bye bye,