1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:19,024 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:25,984 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. 4 00:00:26,184 --> 00:00:29,144 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. 5 00:00:29,424 --> 00:00:31,624 Speaker 1: I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick. 6 00:00:31,744 --> 00:00:34,344 Speaker 2: And on the show today, we are talking about a 7 00:00:34,384 --> 00:00:37,584 Speaker 2: brand new Netflix show that every single person we know 8 00:00:37,864 --> 00:00:40,304 Speaker 2: is talking about, as well as a big true story 9 00:00:40,344 --> 00:00:43,704 Speaker 2: behind it. We are also talking about a very private 10 00:00:43,784 --> 00:00:47,224 Speaker 2: A list celebrity who's recently done a big tell all interview, 11 00:00:47,624 --> 00:00:48,784 Speaker 2: but first. 12 00:00:48,864 --> 00:00:52,224 Speaker 1: Was breaking news last week. Maybe no, I know, but 13 00:00:52,264 --> 00:00:54,264 Speaker 1: you haven't been around and we needed to talk about this. 14 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:58,024 Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw the trailer for the new live action 15 00:00:58,144 --> 00:01:00,544 Speaker 2: remake of Drummer. 16 00:01:02,064 --> 00:01:03,744 Speaker 1: Lilo and Stitch. 17 00:01:06,224 --> 00:01:08,264 Speaker 2: I lovely loan you really do, which. 18 00:01:08,104 --> 00:01:10,104 Speaker 1: Is interesting because I remember seeing it when it came 19 00:01:10,144 --> 00:01:12,344 Speaker 1: out and just being like, oh, that's fine. It was 20 00:01:12,344 --> 00:01:14,824 Speaker 1: never a big classic for me, but I think for 21 00:01:14,904 --> 00:01:17,184 Speaker 1: some people it's a very beloved movie. And it's since 22 00:01:17,224 --> 00:01:19,344 Speaker 1: come to my attention that you are in the top 23 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:21,624 Speaker 1: two percent of fandom of Lelo and Stitch in the world. 24 00:01:21,664 --> 00:01:23,224 Speaker 2: I remember when I was a kid and I watched 25 00:01:23,264 --> 00:01:25,184 Speaker 2: it for the first time. I was like, this is amazing. 26 00:01:25,224 --> 00:01:28,384 Speaker 2: That little Stitch guy is so funny and so cute. 27 00:01:28,624 --> 00:01:32,744 Speaker 2: And even Disney Channel released like a series that was 28 00:01:32,824 --> 00:01:34,944 Speaker 2: lelo and stilly, Like, yeah, a TV series. 29 00:01:34,984 --> 00:01:37,744 Speaker 1: Those were the days, like when a big animated classic 30 00:01:37,784 --> 00:01:40,424 Speaker 1: would come out, you'd see it everywhere and then Disney 31 00:01:40,464 --> 00:01:43,424 Speaker 1: would do a TV series about it. I'd be Aladdin 32 00:01:43,464 --> 00:01:46,224 Speaker 1: one was the best. Oh so good. Was good to 33 00:01:46,264 --> 00:01:49,984 Speaker 1: see these little relationship drama, the characters, the magic Oh 34 00:01:50,104 --> 00:01:52,024 Speaker 1: bring it back, so cute, and they're all the same 35 00:01:52,064 --> 00:01:55,144 Speaker 1: age every single episode, and yet they go through like five. 36 00:01:55,024 --> 00:01:58,344 Speaker 2: Christmases and Thanksgiving. It it's so good. So when I 37 00:01:58,384 --> 00:02:01,464 Speaker 2: saw the trailer for the live action remake, I was like, 38 00:02:02,024 --> 00:02:04,144 Speaker 2: oh no, yeah. 39 00:02:03,704 --> 00:02:06,184 Speaker 1: Because Disney not a good track record with the live action. 40 00:02:06,304 --> 00:02:08,744 Speaker 2: Not a good track record. And I watched the trailer 41 00:02:09,024 --> 00:02:11,624 Speaker 2: and actually before a trailer, I think they did like 42 00:02:11,624 --> 00:02:14,024 Speaker 2: a bit of a preview and it looked really weird, 43 00:02:14,104 --> 00:02:16,024 Speaker 2: like I think the cuts they chose was just a 44 00:02:16,024 --> 00:02:18,104 Speaker 2: bit odd. And then I saw the actual trailer and 45 00:02:18,184 --> 00:02:21,464 Speaker 2: I felt much better about the live action remake. Obviously, 46 00:02:21,584 --> 00:02:24,784 Speaker 2: Stitch is cgi, it's not animal. 47 00:02:24,824 --> 00:02:27,184 Speaker 1: I couldn't find an actor to place Stitch. They couldn't 48 00:02:27,184 --> 00:02:28,424 Speaker 1: find a real Stitch out. 49 00:02:28,544 --> 00:02:29,584 Speaker 2: Didn't find an alien. 50 00:02:30,264 --> 00:02:32,744 Speaker 1: Yes, the aliens are here, apparently if you look at 51 00:02:32,784 --> 00:02:34,864 Speaker 1: TikTok so one of them wasn't free to audition. 52 00:02:35,144 --> 00:02:38,424 Speaker 2: Stitch's voice was my main pain point because it's not 53 00:02:38,624 --> 00:02:42,584 Speaker 2: the traditional Stitch voice that I'm used to, the one 54 00:02:42,584 --> 00:02:46,504 Speaker 2: that I learned and I memorized, and I've been so crazy. 55 00:02:45,744 --> 00:02:48,104 Speaker 1: Couldn't talk. I've never heard you talking this voice. Don't 56 00:02:48,104 --> 00:02:50,064 Speaker 1: don't start it now. I'm just saying I reckon. 57 00:02:50,224 --> 00:02:52,144 Speaker 2: Towards the end of the segment, you should interview me 58 00:02:52,224 --> 00:02:57,464 Speaker 2: as and then our social producer Isabelle Dolph. She can 59 00:02:57,544 --> 00:02:59,744 Speaker 2: like make like a little Stitch like face for me 60 00:03:00,264 --> 00:03:02,904 Speaker 2: and I'll look like you're interviewing not doing that. I'll 61 00:03:02,944 --> 00:03:04,784 Speaker 2: be really funny. I think it's a great use of 62 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 2: everyone's time. But however, I did read a piece we 63 00:03:07,744 --> 00:03:09,944 Speaker 2: posted on my mia by Katie Powers. 64 00:03:10,504 --> 00:03:11,824 Speaker 1: We're just calling people out by name. 65 00:03:12,544 --> 00:03:15,744 Speaker 2: She wrote a piece I was titled enough with the 66 00:03:15,824 --> 00:03:18,704 Speaker 2: live action remakes, and she wrote this line that was 67 00:03:18,784 --> 00:03:20,344 Speaker 2: right at the end of the article, and it said 68 00:03:20,864 --> 00:03:25,384 Speaker 2: Disney isn't just remaking films, They're repackaging our entire childhood 69 00:03:25,384 --> 00:03:28,104 Speaker 2: memories and selling them back to us at a premium price, 70 00:03:28,424 --> 00:03:31,104 Speaker 2: and judging by those box office numbers, we're all too 71 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:33,304 Speaker 2: willing to buy. Because there are a lot of people 72 00:03:33,304 --> 00:03:35,504 Speaker 2: who are mad at not just let them stay, but 73 00:03:35,584 --> 00:03:37,864 Speaker 2: a lot of live actions Ysney films. Yeah, I'm one 74 00:03:37,864 --> 00:03:39,824 Speaker 2: of them, and I actually have a really great hack 75 00:03:39,904 --> 00:03:42,184 Speaker 2: for those people. Oh okay, don't watch the film. 76 00:03:42,224 --> 00:03:44,864 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean, yes, that was for most people, 77 00:03:44,904 --> 00:03:46,104 Speaker 1: but I can't use that. 78 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:48,824 Speaker 2: It's my job, yes, but not Okay, you're like the 79 00:03:48,864 --> 00:03:50,024 Speaker 2: two percent that have to watch. 80 00:03:50,104 --> 00:03:51,944 Speaker 1: But for everyone else, one hundred percent, don't watch it. 81 00:03:51,984 --> 00:03:52,584 Speaker 1: But I know. 82 00:03:53,144 --> 00:03:55,984 Speaker 2: And also another little hat, Okay, if you really hate 83 00:03:55,984 --> 00:03:58,864 Speaker 2: the live action remake, just go back and watch the 84 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:00,944 Speaker 2: animation because guess what, it's still there. 85 00:04:01,704 --> 00:04:05,064 Speaker 1: Okay, but I think it's a wider discussion of Disney 86 00:04:05,184 --> 00:04:07,424 Speaker 1: churning out live action. That's a bit of new movie. 87 00:04:07,584 --> 00:04:09,784 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a lazy kind of Yeah. 88 00:04:10,344 --> 00:04:12,304 Speaker 1: I just have found a lot of the live action 89 00:04:12,464 --> 00:04:15,584 Speaker 1: really soulless. As you know, I'm a hardcore Disney fan, 90 00:04:15,664 --> 00:04:18,984 Speaker 1: Disney classics. I listened to the Disney songs still on 91 00:04:19,024 --> 00:04:20,984 Speaker 1: a loop all the time, and I don't care when 92 00:04:21,024 --> 00:04:23,064 Speaker 1: people say that's weird you're an adult, because they are 93 00:04:23,104 --> 00:04:25,824 Speaker 1: the best composers in the world, the best lyricists, like 94 00:04:25,944 --> 00:04:28,904 Speaker 1: everything came together to make this music, and over the 95 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:32,504 Speaker 1: last few years it's just felt very kind of soulless 96 00:04:32,504 --> 00:04:34,184 Speaker 1: to me. And I thought The Lion King was a 97 00:04:34,224 --> 00:04:36,464 Speaker 1: really good example of that. And I wrote a really 98 00:04:36,504 --> 00:04:40,104 Speaker 1: skating article when the first live action not the profess 99 00:04:40,264 --> 00:04:43,264 Speaker 1: series came out and I got so many angry people 100 00:04:43,304 --> 00:04:46,584 Speaker 1: saying I disagree, which is also fine, but they disagreed 101 00:04:46,624 --> 00:04:48,944 Speaker 1: with me, and then they said I started crying the 102 00:04:48,944 --> 00:04:51,024 Speaker 1: moment I walked in the theater, and I was like, oh, yeah, 103 00:04:51,064 --> 00:04:54,144 Speaker 1: before you saw the movie. That's called nostalgia and memory. 104 00:04:54,184 --> 00:04:56,424 Speaker 1: If you're crying before you saw the movie, the movie 105 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:57,144 Speaker 1: hasn't moved you. 106 00:04:57,424 --> 00:04:57,984 Speaker 2: That's true. 107 00:04:58,144 --> 00:04:59,864 Speaker 1: Like, I don't think people were crying in the movie 108 00:04:59,904 --> 00:05:02,024 Speaker 1: unless they were remembering their childhood seeing it. 109 00:05:02,184 --> 00:05:02,464 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:02,464 --> 00:05:04,904 Speaker 1: Look, the Little Mermaid was quite good, only because that 111 00:05:04,984 --> 00:05:07,864 Speaker 1: was just quite a spectacle. I'm seeing the new Snow 112 00:05:07,864 --> 00:05:12,024 Speaker 1: White tonight, so I'll hold my judgment of that, but 113 00:05:12,104 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna like it. But I'm going 114 00:05:13,904 --> 00:05:17,224 Speaker 1: with a mind. But apart from that, has there been 115 00:05:17,264 --> 00:05:20,264 Speaker 1: a good Disney live action remake? Mulan, But that's different. 116 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:23,824 Speaker 2: LA movie was great, one of my favorite live action remakes. 117 00:05:23,864 --> 00:05:26,624 Speaker 2: And this might be an unpopular opinion. Alice in Wonderland. 118 00:05:26,864 --> 00:05:28,144 Speaker 1: Oh they're Tim Burton one. 119 00:05:28,224 --> 00:05:29,704 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was beautiful. 120 00:05:29,744 --> 00:05:30,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's different. 121 00:05:30,704 --> 00:05:32,624 Speaker 2: That's you can't say mine is different. 122 00:05:32,864 --> 00:05:37,264 Speaker 1: No, that's a reimagining that total whole new story through 123 00:05:37,504 --> 00:05:40,504 Speaker 1: different layers and stuff. That's different. I'm one hundred percent 124 00:05:40,544 --> 00:05:43,384 Speaker 1: here for them doing different stories. It just feels when 125 00:05:43,384 --> 00:05:45,944 Speaker 1: it's a copy and paste of live action and it 126 00:05:45,944 --> 00:05:48,904 Speaker 1: feels less magical than the animation. That's when I have 127 00:05:48,944 --> 00:05:50,824 Speaker 1: an issue with it. Okay, but like, if you want 128 00:05:50,864 --> 00:05:52,904 Speaker 1: to take an idea and blow it up in something new, 129 00:05:53,064 --> 00:05:54,184 Speaker 1: absolutely go for it. 130 00:05:54,264 --> 00:05:57,264 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but can we go back to my interview. 131 00:05:57,384 --> 00:05:59,544 Speaker 1: I was really hoping you forgot about that. I really 132 00:05:59,544 --> 00:06:00,744 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that once upon a 133 00:06:00,824 --> 00:06:02,384 Speaker 1: time I was a proper journalist. So this is like 134 00:06:02,544 --> 00:06:03,864 Speaker 1: really degrading for me. 135 00:06:03,944 --> 00:06:05,984 Speaker 2: I can't believe I actually get to do my stitch 136 00:06:06,064 --> 00:06:06,544 Speaker 2: voice on. 137 00:06:06,624 --> 00:06:08,344 Speaker 1: Well, we haven't decided you're going to do it yet. 138 00:06:08,384 --> 00:06:10,304 Speaker 2: I'm doing it, so you have to pretend I'm Stitch 139 00:06:10,384 --> 00:06:12,944 Speaker 2: and you're interviewing me, and you just have to This 140 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:14,824 Speaker 2: is like a great opportunity for you. You get to 141 00:06:14,944 --> 00:06:18,224 Speaker 2: interview Stitch like he's not a real character, Like he's 142 00:06:18,504 --> 00:06:18,984 Speaker 2: a real person. 143 00:06:19,104 --> 00:06:21,704 Speaker 1: Honest. I note the little actress who's playing Leelo is 144 00:06:22,024 --> 00:06:24,944 Speaker 1: so fricking She's going to be a superstar. She's beautiful, 145 00:06:24,984 --> 00:06:27,144 Speaker 1: she has got the media wrapped around her finger already, 146 00:06:27,144 --> 00:06:28,424 Speaker 1: and she's done like one precedent. 147 00:06:28,624 --> 00:06:31,224 Speaker 2: And Zach galavin Akis is playing one of the aliens 148 00:06:32,064 --> 00:06:33,744 Speaker 2: get them back? And I feel like it's gonna be 149 00:06:33,784 --> 00:06:34,624 Speaker 2: so funny. 150 00:06:34,984 --> 00:06:36,904 Speaker 1: I bought Okay, you want to be Stitch? 151 00:06:36,984 --> 00:06:37,344 Speaker 3: Yeah? 152 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:38,504 Speaker 1: Can you do a Stitch voice? 153 00:06:38,544 --> 00:06:41,944 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, it's gonna be so funny. I'll try. And 154 00:06:41,944 --> 00:06:42,384 Speaker 2: I'm so. 155 00:06:42,344 --> 00:06:45,144 Speaker 1: Embarrassed for us right now. I just think this is 156 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:47,064 Speaker 1: like you have a lot to say in like a 157 00:06:47,184 --> 00:06:48,944 Speaker 1: year from now, They're gonna be like, why are the spillin? 158 00:06:49,024 --> 00:06:51,704 Speaker 1: And I'll be like, I can think, point at the moment, 159 00:06:52,584 --> 00:06:56,544 Speaker 1: well we dropped the shark. Okay, Stitch, do you want 160 00:06:56,544 --> 00:06:59,144 Speaker 1: to give us like why should people watch your new movie? 161 00:06:59,224 --> 00:07:00,824 Speaker 2: Why should peop watch a movie. 162 00:07:04,944 --> 00:07:06,064 Speaker 1: So cooped out? For you right now. 163 00:07:06,144 --> 00:07:09,304 Speaker 4: I put a lot of us into this movie. I 164 00:07:09,424 --> 00:07:12,504 Speaker 4: put a lot of some sweat and blood, and I 165 00:07:12,584 --> 00:07:15,944 Speaker 4: really hope people enjoyed it. Please, it's better than the animation. 166 00:07:16,944 --> 00:07:18,824 Speaker 1: Stick to tell me, what do you think of the action. 167 00:07:18,904 --> 00:07:21,544 Speaker 1: That people shouldn't be remaking your story and that you 168 00:07:21,224 --> 00:07:23,664 Speaker 1: yourself don't come across great on screen. 169 00:07:24,304 --> 00:07:28,784 Speaker 4: Oh that makes me really sad. I think they're everyone 170 00:07:28,904 --> 00:07:29,424 Speaker 4: a shot. 171 00:07:30,224 --> 00:07:33,504 Speaker 2: I've tried really hard, and it's it's for the children. 172 00:07:34,464 --> 00:07:36,904 Speaker 1: Okay. One last question? Who was your celebrity crush? 173 00:07:37,104 --> 00:07:44,184 Speaker 4: Oh that's a good one. 174 00:07:45,224 --> 00:07:46,744 Speaker 2: My celebrity crush? Here is it? 175 00:07:48,144 --> 00:07:50,784 Speaker 4: You're not in the original Stitch movie? The director the 176 00:07:50,864 --> 00:07:53,624 Speaker 4: ice Cream current keeps stopping his iron. He's what I 177 00:07:53,664 --> 00:07:57,624 Speaker 4: think I was in the rematch him crush. 178 00:07:57,824 --> 00:08:00,024 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel really bad for that. Great, thanks this. 179 00:08:00,344 --> 00:08:04,344 Speaker 1: I think we just love for this to be over 180 00:08:04,424 --> 00:08:05,584 Speaker 1: right now. Thank you? 181 00:08:05,624 --> 00:08:07,224 Speaker 2: Can I come back in the room now? How is 182 00:08:07,264 --> 00:08:07,744 Speaker 2: your interview? 183 00:08:08,944 --> 00:08:10,664 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about that again. I 184 00:08:10,744 --> 00:08:12,104 Speaker 1: wish we hadn't been filming. 185 00:08:11,944 --> 00:08:14,344 Speaker 2: But I wish I got to interview Stitch. That sounded amazing. 186 00:08:16,824 --> 00:08:19,864 Speaker 1: No, there's just no words and I've never heard that voice. 187 00:08:19,864 --> 00:08:21,304 Speaker 1: Come out of Emily, and I hope I never hear 188 00:08:21,344 --> 00:08:21,704 Speaker 1: it again. 189 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:25,944 Speaker 2: When we do our Brudley, I'm going to do the 190 00:08:25,984 --> 00:08:27,344 Speaker 2: whole reviewer Stitch. 191 00:08:28,064 --> 00:08:30,224 Speaker 1: Okay, well we might have a podcast by that after that, 192 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:34,624 Speaker 1: so just wait and see. All right, I'm just I'm 193 00:08:34,624 --> 00:08:36,984 Speaker 1: really rethinking this whole episode because I wish we didn't 194 00:08:37,024 --> 00:08:39,464 Speaker 1: have to jump from that to what we're going into. 195 00:08:39,664 --> 00:08:41,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're changing up the tone. 196 00:08:41,344 --> 00:08:43,744 Speaker 1: Please don't bring Stitch into this. It's not the place 197 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:44,024 Speaker 1: for him. 198 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:44,824 Speaker 2: I'll keep him down. 199 00:08:45,224 --> 00:08:48,224 Speaker 1: So we need to talk about a new Netflix series 200 00:08:48,304 --> 00:08:51,104 Speaker 1: that has everyone buzzying and a lot of people quite horrified. 201 00:08:51,224 --> 00:08:53,304 Speaker 1: See what a tone shift from the last one that 202 00:08:53,344 --> 00:08:56,184 Speaker 1: we've just come into. But you know, entertainment swings and roundabouts. 203 00:08:56,384 --> 00:08:59,144 Speaker 1: So Adolescence is a new four part limited series that 204 00:08:59,224 --> 00:09:03,064 Speaker 1: has just dropped on Netflix late last week, and it's 205 00:09:03,104 --> 00:09:04,984 Speaker 1: one of those shows where, like we knew it was coming, 206 00:09:05,024 --> 00:09:08,064 Speaker 1: we knew it was about. But every streaming service drops 207 00:09:08,144 --> 00:09:10,784 Speaker 1: so many shows every week, and sometimes a lot of 208 00:09:10,784 --> 00:09:12,984 Speaker 1: things feel like they're going to really fly under the radar, 209 00:09:13,424 --> 00:09:14,904 Speaker 1: especially at something like this that's a bit of a 210 00:09:14,904 --> 00:09:17,464 Speaker 1: hard watch and a critically acclaimed show, but it's just 211 00:09:17,584 --> 00:09:19,864 Speaker 1: blowing up, and so many people are watching it and 212 00:09:19,944 --> 00:09:23,184 Speaker 1: talking about it because one, it's like excellent TV, but 213 00:09:23,264 --> 00:09:25,904 Speaker 1: it also has a lot of people, particularly parents and 214 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:29,184 Speaker 1: parents of boys, very horrified by what they're seeing. 215 00:09:29,784 --> 00:09:33,424 Speaker 2: That what are you're looking for? 216 00:09:35,424 --> 00:09:37,184 Speaker 4: You're making a big mistake, that. 217 00:09:38,944 --> 00:09:42,664 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything. He's a good ky Jamie. 218 00:09:42,944 --> 00:09:47,984 Speaker 2: I want you to listen carefully. I'm going to start 219 00:09:48,024 --> 00:09:50,144 Speaker 2: off with asking you do. 220 00:09:50,144 --> 00:09:51,664 Speaker 1: You know a girl called Katie Leonard? 221 00:09:53,064 --> 00:09:58,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, describe each other as friends? Then she did? Then 222 00:09:59,504 --> 00:10:05,184 Speaker 2: why would you ask her? M So do you think 223 00:10:05,224 --> 00:10:06,664 Speaker 2: it would be okay if we speak about it? 224 00:10:08,064 --> 00:10:08,384 Speaker 1: I haven't. 225 00:10:08,424 --> 00:10:13,344 Speaker 3: Don your group death agree that. 226 00:10:14,704 --> 00:10:16,624 Speaker 2: He hasn't been found guilty, he's been accused. 227 00:10:18,544 --> 00:10:21,904 Speaker 1: Eighty percent of women are attracted to twenty percent of men. 228 00:10:22,904 --> 00:10:24,864 Speaker 2: You must trick them because you'll never get them in. 229 00:10:24,824 --> 00:10:29,464 Speaker 1: A normal way. It's crazy. Wait your brain tells you 230 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 1: to do when you're a kid. 231 00:10:32,944 --> 00:10:37,384 Speaker 2: I actually was really impressed on how big this show became. 232 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:40,304 Speaker 2: It feels like one of those shows similar to when 233 00:10:40,424 --> 00:10:44,144 Speaker 2: Black Mirror was first announced on Netflix. It's so different 234 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:46,264 Speaker 2: to the shows like Bridgeton and stuff, where there's so 235 00:10:46,344 --> 00:10:48,744 Speaker 2: much hyper before the show starts, like you see the 236 00:10:48,904 --> 00:10:51,424 Speaker 2: massive cast. You see this whole new concept, and this 237 00:10:51,464 --> 00:10:53,584 Speaker 2: one kind of slipped under the radar and yet was 238 00:10:53,624 --> 00:10:57,024 Speaker 2: like massive, which is so interesting. I also heard it 239 00:10:57,104 --> 00:10:59,104 Speaker 2: was all filmed in one shot. 240 00:10:59,224 --> 00:11:01,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's four episodes and they almost come across 241 00:11:01,984 --> 00:11:04,304 Speaker 1: like in real time of watching it, and each one 242 00:11:04,384 --> 00:11:08,104 Speaker 1: is filmed in one long, continuous and very unflinching shot. 243 00:11:08,144 --> 00:11:08,864 Speaker 2: How do they do that? 244 00:11:08,904 --> 00:11:11,304 Speaker 1: Which is just with a handhow camera? Pretty much? 245 00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:12,504 Speaker 2: And then if they mess up there have to start 246 00:11:12,504 --> 00:11:13,304 Speaker 2: the whole thing again. 247 00:11:13,424 --> 00:11:16,584 Speaker 1: I mean pretty much. I know it's incredible, and obviously 248 00:11:16,664 --> 00:11:18,464 Speaker 1: with a long shot like that, you can do some 249 00:11:18,504 --> 00:11:20,784 Speaker 1: sort of editing and stuff, but you're not getting all 250 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:23,744 Speaker 1: these different perspectives because normally, if you're like on a 251 00:11:23,744 --> 00:11:25,624 Speaker 1: film set and you're watching something be filmed, there's so 252 00:11:25,664 --> 00:11:28,144 Speaker 1: many different cameras and then like if we were getting 253 00:11:28,144 --> 00:11:30,384 Speaker 1: film right now, like someone would be filming my shot, 254 00:11:30,424 --> 00:11:32,704 Speaker 1: and then we'd refilm your shot, and then someone will 255 00:11:32,704 --> 00:11:34,864 Speaker 1: also be filming us across the room, so we'd have 256 00:11:34,904 --> 00:11:37,784 Speaker 1: ten different angles we could use and cut between, whereas 257 00:11:37,824 --> 00:11:40,184 Speaker 1: it's just this one angle. So not so much that 258 00:11:40,224 --> 00:11:42,544 Speaker 1: it's being film live, but more so that's one angle, 259 00:11:42,584 --> 00:11:44,824 Speaker 1: and it's centered on this boy. So yes, as I'm 260 00:11:44,824 --> 00:11:47,464 Speaker 1: saying this, four episodes, which kind of just feels like enough, 261 00:11:47,504 --> 00:11:48,824 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's a great story, 262 00:11:48,864 --> 00:11:50,184 Speaker 1: but I think my nerves would have been shot to 263 00:11:50,184 --> 00:11:53,664 Speaker 1: shit after more than four episodes. And it tells the 264 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,424 Speaker 1: story of this thirteen year old boy called Jamie. And 265 00:11:56,824 --> 00:12:00,184 Speaker 1: the first episode is the police bursting into his home. 266 00:12:00,544 --> 00:12:02,664 Speaker 1: That said in the UK, his family are just you know, 267 00:12:02,704 --> 00:12:05,184 Speaker 1: there's just a normal suburban family going about their life 268 00:12:05,184 --> 00:12:09,424 Speaker 1: and their home. Police burst in, guns, detectives. The family 269 00:12:09,504 --> 00:12:11,384 Speaker 1: is screaming the word to do and then they center 270 00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:14,744 Speaker 1: on this young boy in his room who looks absolutely petrified, 271 00:12:15,064 --> 00:12:17,224 Speaker 1: tell him he's been accused of murder, pull him off 272 00:12:17,224 --> 00:12:19,464 Speaker 1: to the police station. Obviously, the family is like, well, life, 273 00:12:19,464 --> 00:12:22,144 Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy hasn't killed anyone. And as the 274 00:12:22,184 --> 00:12:24,464 Speaker 1: story goes on, in the first episode, you find out 275 00:12:24,504 --> 00:12:27,224 Speaker 1: that there's a young girl from his school who has 276 00:12:27,264 --> 00:12:30,344 Speaker 1: been murdered. And it's not really a spoiler because it's 277 00:12:30,344 --> 00:12:32,904 Speaker 1: about this, but he's like obviously implicated in it. And 278 00:12:32,944 --> 00:12:35,584 Speaker 1: then the rest of the episode show the fallout and 279 00:12:35,624 --> 00:12:38,784 Speaker 1: how it's happened and how it's affecting everyone and like 280 00:12:39,104 --> 00:12:40,344 Speaker 1: kind of it's pretty. 281 00:12:40,144 --> 00:12:42,744 Speaker 2: Much obvious that he is guilty. Well, yeah, they tell 282 00:12:42,744 --> 00:12:44,184 Speaker 2: you in the first time, right, And then the show 283 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:46,824 Speaker 2: is about his family and how they're dealing with. 284 00:12:46,944 --> 00:12:49,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the aftermath, and it's like how what 285 00:12:49,264 --> 00:12:51,584 Speaker 1: happens when news travels through the school, what happens in 286 00:12:51,624 --> 00:12:54,904 Speaker 1: their family, and also the different influences, you know, what 287 00:12:55,064 --> 00:12:57,664 Speaker 1: has led to this surge of like violence and control 288 00:12:57,784 --> 00:13:02,064 Speaker 1: and everything like that. So it's really also this conversation it's. 289 00:13:01,904 --> 00:13:02,984 Speaker 2: Already happening in our culture. 290 00:13:03,064 --> 00:13:05,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's so this conversation around young boys and 291 00:13:05,664 --> 00:13:07,824 Speaker 1: young men and the different kind of forces that can 292 00:13:07,864 --> 00:13:10,664 Speaker 1: come in and how parents relate to it, what they'd 293 00:13:10,664 --> 00:13:12,384 Speaker 1: see and what they don't see, and it's this really 294 00:13:12,464 --> 00:13:15,584 Speaker 1: kind of interesting network of stories all centered around this 295 00:13:15,664 --> 00:13:17,944 Speaker 1: young boy. And so I guess this segment is a 296 00:13:17,944 --> 00:13:20,264 Speaker 1: bit of a almost like a MIDWEK weekend watch, like 297 00:13:20,304 --> 00:13:23,704 Speaker 1: if you haven't watched this show yet, highly highly recommend. Like, yes, 298 00:13:23,704 --> 00:13:25,504 Speaker 1: it's a bit tough to watch, but it's just really 299 00:13:25,544 --> 00:13:28,064 Speaker 1: great TV. And the other part of it is to 300 00:13:28,144 --> 00:13:31,024 Speaker 1: kind of talk about where this came from, because when 301 00:13:31,064 --> 00:13:32,864 Speaker 1: it first came out. Everyone was saying, this is based 302 00:13:32,864 --> 00:13:35,464 Speaker 1: on a true stories. Everyone's googling like what happened to 303 00:13:35,464 --> 00:13:37,784 Speaker 1: the real Jamie? Where is his family now? What happened? 304 00:13:38,104 --> 00:13:40,024 Speaker 1: And the creators of the show have come out and said, 305 00:13:40,064 --> 00:13:42,504 Speaker 1: it's not based on one single story and this is 306 00:13:42,504 --> 00:13:45,824 Speaker 1: actually way more terrifying. I thought then it being based 307 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,064 Speaker 1: on one young boy who did something, It's actually based 308 00:13:48,104 --> 00:13:52,024 Speaker 1: on several real life stories of young boys committing violence 309 00:13:52,104 --> 00:13:55,744 Speaker 1: against young girls and what's led to that. So the 310 00:13:55,784 --> 00:13:58,024 Speaker 1: director of the show, Philip Barantini, has said in a 311 00:13:58,064 --> 00:14:01,544 Speaker 1: few interviews that there's been a rising prevalence in knife 312 00:14:01,544 --> 00:14:04,544 Speaker 1: crime amongst young people in the UK and that is 313 00:14:04,544 --> 00:14:08,104 Speaker 1: the inspiration for the series. And they've said there's been 314 00:14:08,384 --> 00:14:11,264 Speaker 1: instances of young boys killing young girl with knives and 315 00:14:11,304 --> 00:14:13,624 Speaker 1: they found it really upsetting and they wanted to dive into, 316 00:14:13,664 --> 00:14:16,224 Speaker 1: like what if we took all these stories, put into 317 00:14:16,264 --> 00:14:19,384 Speaker 1: one character, fictionalized it a bit, but kind of looked 318 00:14:19,464 --> 00:14:22,664 Speaker 1: into what led to it and what the fallout was 319 00:14:22,864 --> 00:14:25,264 Speaker 1: and what is happening to these young men to see 320 00:14:25,304 --> 00:14:27,464 Speaker 1: such a rise, Like is it to do with their parenting? 321 00:14:27,544 --> 00:14:29,304 Speaker 1: Is it the peers? Is it the internet? Is it 322 00:14:29,344 --> 00:14:31,704 Speaker 1: social media? And you know, I guess it's kind of 323 00:14:31,744 --> 00:14:34,544 Speaker 1: like a factor of accommodation. But yeah, so there are 324 00:14:34,624 --> 00:14:38,144 Speaker 1: real life stories of young men like murdering or attacking 325 00:14:38,624 --> 00:14:39,224 Speaker 1: young girls. 326 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:41,424 Speaker 2: And I guess also what happens in the legal system 327 00:14:41,464 --> 00:14:44,144 Speaker 2: when the perpetrator is underage. 328 00:14:43,744 --> 00:14:46,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like a thirteen year old saying like, you know, 329 00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:48,384 Speaker 1: this is what happened, or you know this is what 330 00:14:48,464 --> 00:14:50,704 Speaker 1: led to this would be very different to trying an adult. 331 00:14:50,744 --> 00:14:53,744 Speaker 1: But it's very chilling to watch too, because like you 332 00:14:53,784 --> 00:14:55,584 Speaker 1: think there'd be like a sense of innocence, but there's 333 00:14:55,624 --> 00:14:58,104 Speaker 1: not really that in the show. So yeah, it's also 334 00:14:58,184 --> 00:15:01,664 Speaker 1: just really interesting storytelling. And I think as we're sort 335 00:15:01,664 --> 00:15:03,944 Speaker 1: of in this huge turn of content at the moment 336 00:15:03,984 --> 00:15:06,504 Speaker 1: where we're getting like twenty different shows across like twenty 337 00:15:06,504 --> 00:15:09,264 Speaker 1: different streamers every week, it can be really hard for 338 00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:11,784 Speaker 1: something like this that's so original but like doesn't have 339 00:15:11,824 --> 00:15:14,344 Speaker 1: any big names, it doesn't have any of those kind 340 00:15:14,344 --> 00:15:16,384 Speaker 1: of things for it to push through. And I think 341 00:15:16,384 --> 00:15:18,424 Speaker 1: the fact that this has is like testament. It's like 342 00:15:18,424 --> 00:15:22,304 Speaker 1: when Baby Reindeer pushed through it and a lot of 343 00:15:22,304 --> 00:15:24,704 Speaker 1: people were just like, oh, like on paper, this really 344 00:15:24,744 --> 00:15:27,664 Speaker 1: shouldn't have had the huge effect that it had, but 345 00:15:27,704 --> 00:15:29,544 Speaker 1: a lot of the time people just want that type 346 00:15:29,584 --> 00:15:33,304 Speaker 1: of storytelling that makes them feel uncomfortable. But it's also 347 00:15:33,344 --> 00:15:35,544 Speaker 1: like taking a big swing and it's not a remake 348 00:15:35,624 --> 00:15:38,024 Speaker 1: and it's not a reimagining and it's not I mean 349 00:15:38,064 --> 00:15:40,184 Speaker 1: there's a place for those as well, but there's a 350 00:15:40,224 --> 00:15:41,384 Speaker 1: place for original stories. 351 00:15:41,424 --> 00:15:44,664 Speaker 2: I also think British TV is just its own Yeah, 352 00:15:44,984 --> 00:15:45,784 Speaker 2: so good. 353 00:15:45,784 --> 00:15:48,864 Speaker 1: So incredible. So Adolescence is on Netflix. As we said, 354 00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:50,704 Speaker 1: it's some people are finding it very upsetting, but like, 355 00:15:50,704 --> 00:15:53,224 Speaker 1: if you're in a headspace to watch it, well worth watching. 356 00:15:55,784 --> 00:15:56,504 Speaker 1: So you might have. 357 00:15:56,584 --> 00:16:00,304 Speaker 2: Heard of an actress named Scarlett Johanson. Have you heard 358 00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:05,104 Speaker 2: of her once or twice? She's recently done an exclusive 359 00:16:05,224 --> 00:16:08,184 Speaker 2: interview with in Style, And this is not something that 360 00:16:08,224 --> 00:16:11,504 Speaker 2: I would usually be super paw it to talk about. 361 00:16:11,944 --> 00:16:13,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought this, and one's like when need to 362 00:16:13,504 --> 00:16:14,984 Speaker 1: talk about this? I'm like blown away. 363 00:16:15,144 --> 00:16:17,104 Speaker 2: I still haven't figured it out. I've read the whole 364 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:20,584 Speaker 2: interview about three times now, and it's one of those 365 00:16:20,664 --> 00:16:24,704 Speaker 2: interviews where with Scarlet Jeer Hansen, I obviously knew her, 366 00:16:24,744 --> 00:16:27,424 Speaker 2: but I wasn't like obsessed with her or loved her. 367 00:16:27,544 --> 00:16:29,024 Speaker 2: Like if I would watch a movie that she's in 368 00:16:29,024 --> 00:16:30,584 Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, Scarlet of Hanson's in this, 369 00:16:30,744 --> 00:16:33,024 Speaker 2: like everyone knows her, she's a big actress. And then 370 00:16:33,064 --> 00:16:36,304 Speaker 2: after reading this interview, like she's all I can think about, like, 371 00:16:36,344 --> 00:16:39,344 Speaker 2: I think she's now like one of my favorite celebrities ever. 372 00:16:39,944 --> 00:16:42,304 Speaker 2: She just seems like one of those celebrities where I 373 00:16:42,344 --> 00:16:45,144 Speaker 2: would categorize as like a celebrity that my mom. 374 00:16:45,064 --> 00:16:49,544 Speaker 1: Likes, okay, hurtful things. She's only well, she's okay, she 375 00:16:49,704 --> 00:16:50,784 Speaker 1: just turned forty. 376 00:16:50,584 --> 00:16:53,304 Speaker 2: Like I like categorize her with like an Angelina Joe 377 00:16:53,384 --> 00:16:56,304 Speaker 2: Lee and a Jennifer Anisteid and anyone else. Brad pitters 378 00:16:56,384 --> 00:16:57,024 Speaker 2: dated essentially. 379 00:16:57,064 --> 00:16:58,104 Speaker 1: But you're a Marvel fan. 380 00:16:58,304 --> 00:17:00,144 Speaker 2: I'm a Marvel so that's where like, I'm a fan. 381 00:17:00,264 --> 00:17:01,984 Speaker 1: Why is she only for your mom? But for me? 382 00:17:02,064 --> 00:17:03,944 Speaker 1: Even against Evelyn, she's obviously another. 383 00:17:03,744 --> 00:17:05,504 Speaker 2: Thing against Scolet, you Hanson. I feel like I'm actually 384 00:17:05,504 --> 00:17:08,344 Speaker 2: shitting on her right now. Even with Marvel, I would 385 00:17:08,384 --> 00:17:11,064 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I love Marvel, and like Colet Jerhnson's 386 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:12,544 Speaker 2: in it, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, yes, 387 00:17:12,544 --> 00:17:14,984 Speaker 2: Scarlet of Hanson, you know what I mean. And then 388 00:17:14,984 --> 00:17:17,144 Speaker 2: I read this interview, and I just have like this 389 00:17:17,224 --> 00:17:20,944 Speaker 2: whole new appreciation of her, even though the interview she 390 00:17:20,944 --> 00:17:25,624 Speaker 2: didn't really say that much. So Scarlett Johnson is, I 391 00:17:25,664 --> 00:17:29,384 Speaker 2: found out in this injurview the second highest grossing actor 392 00:17:29,544 --> 00:17:32,424 Speaker 2: in the entire world, and like not just women, like 393 00:17:32,624 --> 00:17:34,944 Speaker 2: out of all the actors. So she's right behind Samuel L. 394 00:17:35,064 --> 00:17:37,824 Speaker 2: Jackson and behind her is Robert Danny Junior. So basically 395 00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:40,504 Speaker 2: the entire Avengers cast. Yeah, they got paid some big bucks. 396 00:17:40,744 --> 00:17:42,584 Speaker 2: What I found really interesting about her is that she 397 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:45,104 Speaker 2: talked a lot about the fact that she doesn't actually 398 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:48,864 Speaker 2: take photos with fans in public, which is like my 399 00:17:48,904 --> 00:17:51,024 Speaker 2: biggest fear is seeing a celebrity in public and then 400 00:17:51,064 --> 00:17:53,304 Speaker 2: getting rejected by them. So I'm glad she made this. 401 00:17:53,544 --> 00:17:55,544 Speaker 2: She told everyone I never go to her, never got 402 00:17:55,584 --> 00:17:57,424 Speaker 2: up to her. And she said this line that has 403 00:17:57,504 --> 00:18:01,544 Speaker 2: been taken and like quoted everywhere, Like if you look 404 00:18:01,584 --> 00:18:04,424 Speaker 2: on Twitter, this was trending in the morning, it's everywhere. 405 00:18:04,464 --> 00:18:07,424 Speaker 2: And she said, it's the funniest thing ever. And I die. 406 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:09,984 Speaker 2: She said this to my faith, but she said, I 407 00:18:10,104 --> 00:18:12,504 Speaker 2: don't I want to be identified as being in this 408 00:18:12,624 --> 00:18:13,664 Speaker 2: time and place with you. 409 00:18:13,984 --> 00:18:16,344 Speaker 1: That's so wild of since many people sharing that and 410 00:18:16,384 --> 00:18:17,864 Speaker 1: also not that she's saying I don't want to be 411 00:18:17,904 --> 00:18:19,504 Speaker 1: identified as in like I don't want people to know 412 00:18:19,544 --> 00:18:21,904 Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah, it's something about like she doesn't want 413 00:18:21,944 --> 00:18:24,584 Speaker 1: to even think that you're in her like mental and 414 00:18:24,664 --> 00:18:27,984 Speaker 1: physical space that she's existing in. It's very it's not 415 00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:29,544 Speaker 1: a security concern. I don't think. 416 00:18:29,704 --> 00:18:32,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I think she just wants her private 417 00:18:32,184 --> 00:18:34,264 Speaker 2: life to be private because she has says that, like 418 00:18:34,584 --> 00:18:37,504 Speaker 2: she's very public about other things like when she votes, 419 00:18:37,544 --> 00:18:40,064 Speaker 2: so she's like, she talks about her political opinions very publicly, 420 00:18:40,104 --> 00:18:42,144 Speaker 2: but it's like the people close to her she's really 421 00:18:42,184 --> 00:18:45,184 Speaker 2: private about. And she sees the idea of taking photos 422 00:18:45,184 --> 00:18:47,984 Speaker 2: with fans part of work. So for her, which kind 423 00:18:47,984 --> 00:18:50,024 Speaker 2: of makes sense, She's like, why would I put myself 424 00:18:50,024 --> 00:18:53,344 Speaker 2: in that like work brain, Yeah, because it takes me 425 00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:55,584 Speaker 2: completely outside of like my personal life and put her 426 00:18:55,584 --> 00:18:56,264 Speaker 2: back because when. 427 00:18:56,184 --> 00:18:58,584 Speaker 1: You see videos of her events, she'll go along the 428 00:18:58,584 --> 00:19:00,904 Speaker 1: media line take photos. But I guess that's I always 429 00:19:00,904 --> 00:19:02,944 Speaker 1: think that's very fair with celebrities because they're at work, 430 00:19:03,104 --> 00:19:05,264 Speaker 1: whereas if you're walking down the street and someone grabs you. 431 00:19:05,464 --> 00:19:07,744 Speaker 1: It's interesting and saying about her being a private person 432 00:19:07,824 --> 00:19:10,064 Speaker 1: because she is one of the biggest stars in the 433 00:19:10,064 --> 00:19:13,504 Speaker 1: world and the highest paid, and there's never really any 434 00:19:13,544 --> 00:19:16,384 Speaker 1: headlines or like very few about her personal life. But 435 00:19:16,424 --> 00:19:18,264 Speaker 1: when you actually look at her personal life, like not 436 00:19:18,304 --> 00:19:21,024 Speaker 1: so much it's scandalous. But I see other famous women 437 00:19:21,104 --> 00:19:23,424 Speaker 1: be raped over the coals for the same thing that 438 00:19:23,464 --> 00:19:25,384 Speaker 1: she's done. But maybe because I don't know, because she's 439 00:19:25,424 --> 00:19:27,464 Speaker 1: so private about it. But she and Ryan Reynolds were 440 00:19:27,504 --> 00:19:29,544 Speaker 1: together for ages. It's just there were no photos of 441 00:19:29,624 --> 00:19:31,424 Speaker 1: their wedding. But they always like they got up on 442 00:19:31,464 --> 00:19:33,424 Speaker 1: stage and would thank each other at awards and things, 443 00:19:33,424 --> 00:19:35,904 Speaker 1: and they'd always allude to this mythical story of how 444 00:19:35,944 --> 00:19:38,504 Speaker 1: they met, Like Scarlet Johans would say, like, you know, 445 00:19:38,664 --> 00:19:40,904 Speaker 1: my Canadian, like we met this special way, but that's 446 00:19:40,904 --> 00:19:43,224 Speaker 1: our story, will never tell And I can't believe no 447 00:19:43,264 --> 00:19:45,544 Speaker 1: one's dug that up because it was such a huge thing. 448 00:19:45,824 --> 00:19:47,944 Speaker 1: And when they had their divorce and like that did 449 00:19:47,944 --> 00:19:50,664 Speaker 1: make headlines, but I think people have forgotten about it. 450 00:19:51,184 --> 00:19:53,464 Speaker 1: And it's just interesting because she always talked about being 451 00:19:53,464 --> 00:19:55,184 Speaker 1: in a marriage with someone who held her back, and 452 00:19:55,224 --> 00:19:58,184 Speaker 1: like that's Ryan Reynolds, but that's such a famous name, 453 00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:00,824 Speaker 1: so I think it's so interesting. Yeah. And then her 454 00:20:00,864 --> 00:20:07,024 Speaker 1: second husband, Ramon Jarak, Yeah, who she has French show 455 00:20:07,024 --> 00:20:07,864 Speaker 1: everything that No. 456 00:20:07,824 --> 00:20:07,944 Speaker 3: I know. 457 00:20:08,544 --> 00:20:09,784 Speaker 1: I love this. I don't know anyone else who knows 458 00:20:09,824 --> 00:20:11,384 Speaker 1: as much of us Kyle jo Hanson's me. I didn't 459 00:20:11,424 --> 00:20:13,184 Speaker 1: realize I was Ready's article. How much you know about her? 460 00:20:13,224 --> 00:20:15,264 Speaker 1: But she's been in the industry for over thirty years. 461 00:20:15,264 --> 00:20:17,944 Speaker 1: She started when she was ten, so I guess that's fair. 462 00:20:18,224 --> 00:20:20,944 Speaker 1: So then she and romand Durak had this like torrid 463 00:20:21,024 --> 00:20:23,824 Speaker 1: love affair of like a French journalist with Scarlett Johansson, 464 00:20:24,104 --> 00:20:26,464 Speaker 1: and that was never really a big talking point. And 465 00:20:26,504 --> 00:20:29,384 Speaker 1: then they had their daughter, whose name is Rose Dorothy Durak. 466 00:20:29,464 --> 00:20:31,104 Speaker 1: Is that not just the greatest nails? 467 00:20:31,144 --> 00:20:33,024 Speaker 2: So beautiful? She had alongs in Sound of Music. 468 00:20:33,224 --> 00:20:36,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they had this big breakup and then 469 00:20:36,304 --> 00:20:38,424 Speaker 1: when she got together. Actually, I'm interested in bringing her 470 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:41,104 Speaker 1: up because she's actually dating your crush at the moment. 471 00:20:41,224 --> 00:20:43,584 Speaker 2: That's the reason why I read the You want to 472 00:20:43,624 --> 00:20:47,624 Speaker 2: see what your competition was doing. My competition is easily 473 00:20:47,704 --> 00:20:50,464 Speaker 2: Scarleton Hands and we're on the same playing field clearly. No, 474 00:20:50,544 --> 00:20:52,704 Speaker 2: because I don't know much about Colin Jost, who was 475 00:20:52,704 --> 00:20:55,064 Speaker 2: my celebrity crash, and I thought I'd get insight into him, 476 00:20:55,104 --> 00:20:57,024 Speaker 2: and then I just became obsessed with his wife more 477 00:20:57,104 --> 00:21:00,344 Speaker 2: than him. But even like, because she's like such a famous, 478 00:21:00,344 --> 00:21:03,504 Speaker 2: famous person, she's like in this exclusive group with like 479 00:21:03,664 --> 00:21:06,384 Speaker 2: the j. Gillienholes and the Leonardo Dicaprios who are so 480 00:21:06,384 --> 00:21:10,344 Speaker 2: so famous that they don't need external forces of validet, 481 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,624 Speaker 2: Like none of them have Instagram. And she was talking 482 00:21:13,664 --> 00:21:16,784 Speaker 2: about how like she has an upcoming movie with Jonathan Bailey, 483 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,344 Speaker 2: Jurassic Rebirth. Can't wait for that. 484 00:21:18,504 --> 00:21:19,824 Speaker 1: It actually looks great really on. 485 00:21:19,784 --> 00:21:23,784 Speaker 2: His reviewing soon and she talked about how the production 486 00:21:23,904 --> 00:21:26,064 Speaker 2: wanted her to create an Instagram to comprote the movie 487 00:21:26,104 --> 00:21:28,184 Speaker 2: and she was just like no, And I'm like, you 488 00:21:28,304 --> 00:21:28,984 Speaker 2: can say no. 489 00:21:29,184 --> 00:21:30,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't need Instagram. 490 00:21:30,464 --> 00:21:32,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't need it. She has the entire skincare 491 00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:36,104 Speaker 2: line that's doing so so well. No Instagram, no problem. 492 00:21:36,144 --> 00:21:38,544 Speaker 1: I also love how the journalist in the magazine article 493 00:21:38,624 --> 00:21:40,424 Speaker 1: says it's only you and Brad Pitt who are the 494 00:21:40,464 --> 00:21:45,264 Speaker 1: celebrities who have skincare lines but don't have an Instagram account, 495 00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:47,264 Speaker 1: And she was like, I find that odd, and I 496 00:21:47,304 --> 00:21:49,624 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, Scarlet Johansson, that's everyone's currency 497 00:21:49,664 --> 00:21:51,544 Speaker 1: at the moment. But yeah, I just feel like because 498 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:56,144 Speaker 1: she's weirdly everywhere, like she's everywhere, but she's so private, 499 00:21:56,424 --> 00:21:58,624 Speaker 1: and it's almost like she's the one celebrity who can 500 00:21:58,664 --> 00:22:01,064 Speaker 1: cancel those two things out because like there's also all 501 00:22:01,104 --> 00:22:03,224 Speaker 1: these stories that all the different famous men she's stated, 502 00:22:03,544 --> 00:22:05,544 Speaker 1: and then she's been married three times. Again, none of 503 00:22:05,544 --> 00:22:07,384 Speaker 1: these things are crazy, But I'm just saying, like other 504 00:22:07,424 --> 00:22:10,144 Speaker 1: actresses like a Kate winsletter at Kate Hudson or you know, 505 00:22:10,424 --> 00:22:12,944 Speaker 1: any of those kind of also very famous actresses who 506 00:22:12,984 --> 00:22:15,984 Speaker 1: have had like multiple marriages get raped over the calls 507 00:22:16,024 --> 00:22:18,224 Speaker 1: for it, and people are so interested in their lives 508 00:22:18,264 --> 00:22:19,944 Speaker 1: and Scarlet are hints and like I'm sure if you 509 00:22:19,984 --> 00:22:22,744 Speaker 1: ask most people like about her marriage and her life, 510 00:22:22,744 --> 00:22:24,624 Speaker 1: they couldn't tell you, but they could tell you every 511 00:22:24,624 --> 00:22:25,344 Speaker 1: movie she's been in. 512 00:22:25,384 --> 00:22:27,624 Speaker 2: And she also just doesn't talk about it, Like it's 513 00:22:27,704 --> 00:22:29,864 Speaker 2: just so interesting on what she chooses to talk about. 514 00:22:30,024 --> 00:22:32,264 Speaker 2: There was a part in the entire interview that I 515 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,944 Speaker 2: was so honed in on, and that was like the 516 00:22:35,184 --> 00:22:39,104 Speaker 2: SNL segment. So I think we've talked about this particular 517 00:22:39,144 --> 00:22:41,904 Speaker 2: segment but Saturday Night Live, it's a show that her 518 00:22:42,024 --> 00:22:45,224 Speaker 2: husband is like one of the lead anchors on, and 519 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:49,544 Speaker 2: he has a segment called Weekend Update where him and 520 00:22:49,664 --> 00:22:52,704 Speaker 2: his like comedian buddy Michael Chay are sitting on a 521 00:22:52,944 --> 00:22:55,384 Speaker 2: like kind of table like a newsroom, and they're just 522 00:22:55,464 --> 00:22:58,544 Speaker 2: delivering news in a really really funny way. And a 523 00:22:58,584 --> 00:23:00,744 Speaker 2: few times a year, what they do is that they 524 00:23:00,784 --> 00:23:03,984 Speaker 2: write each other's jokes. Yeah, so they really throw each 525 00:23:04,024 --> 00:23:05,904 Speaker 2: other under the bus. They make them say the most 526 00:23:05,944 --> 00:23:09,024 Speaker 2: horrific things. And I think this one came out last 527 00:23:09,144 --> 00:23:12,224 Speaker 2: year and skar Johansen was actually a guest on the 528 00:23:12,264 --> 00:23:16,744 Speaker 2: show and she was backstage watching and the line that 529 00:23:16,864 --> 00:23:20,544 Speaker 2: Michael Chay made Colin jo just say, and I don't 530 00:23:20,544 --> 00:23:22,104 Speaker 2: even know if I can say this? Can I say this? 531 00:23:22,544 --> 00:23:25,024 Speaker 1: Okay, if you've met this far on the podcast, you're 532 00:23:25,024 --> 00:23:26,064 Speaker 1: already uridio. Okay. 533 00:23:26,944 --> 00:23:30,384 Speaker 2: Costco has removed the roast beef sandwich from its menu, 534 00:23:30,824 --> 00:23:34,184 Speaker 2: but I ain't tripping. I've been eating roast beef every 535 00:23:34,264 --> 00:23:38,424 Speaker 2: night since my wife had the kid. And the thing 536 00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:40,544 Speaker 2: is is, like she talked about that whole segment and 537 00:23:40,584 --> 00:23:42,104 Speaker 2: she was saying it was so vulgar, but she was 538 00:23:42,104 --> 00:23:43,984 Speaker 2: like laughing as she says it like it was. She 539 00:23:44,024 --> 00:23:46,464 Speaker 2: said it was old school gross. I can't believe they 540 00:23:46,504 --> 00:23:49,384 Speaker 2: went there. But what she didn't expect was like a 541 00:23:49,464 --> 00:23:52,224 Speaker 2: camera crew to be on her backstage with lights and 542 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,984 Speaker 2: cameras just to get the reaction. 543 00:23:53,824 --> 00:23:55,504 Speaker 1: They cut to her in the live show was something 544 00:23:55,544 --> 00:23:57,784 Speaker 1: they played later. It's so funny because when that happened, 545 00:23:58,024 --> 00:23:59,984 Speaker 1: she looks at the camera and she's like, oh my god. 546 00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:02,664 Speaker 1: And it was only afterwards when she was talking about it, 547 00:24:02,704 --> 00:24:05,784 Speaker 1: so like the week afterwards, before this magazine article came out, 548 00:24:06,184 --> 00:24:08,144 Speaker 1: and she was saying that in the moment, she thought 549 00:24:08,144 --> 00:24:09,664 Speaker 1: it was kind of okay, and then she looked over 550 00:24:09,704 --> 00:24:12,424 Speaker 1: and Emma Stone standing there because emmistone was doing some 551 00:24:12,424 --> 00:24:14,024 Speaker 1: stuff on the show, but she's also married to one 552 00:24:14,064 --> 00:24:16,144 Speaker 1: of the writers. And she said Emma Stone was like, 553 00:24:16,264 --> 00:24:19,544 Speaker 1: that was not okay, and that's when Scarlet was like, oh, 554 00:24:19,744 --> 00:24:21,984 Speaker 1: maybe that was a bit yeah, that was a bit 555 00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:22,384 Speaker 1: too far. 556 00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:24,344 Speaker 2: And I think it's one of those things where because 557 00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:28,024 Speaker 2: she's so like out of like the cultural loop of 558 00:24:28,064 --> 00:24:32,264 Speaker 2: everything that's happening, like it almost like benefits her career 559 00:24:32,384 --> 00:24:34,944 Speaker 2: because she can like react like in those like really 560 00:24:34,984 --> 00:24:37,544 Speaker 2: authentic ways and she's had so much media training and 561 00:24:37,584 --> 00:24:39,624 Speaker 2: she knows how to do it. And even in this interview, 562 00:24:39,704 --> 00:24:41,744 Speaker 2: like if you just read each of these quotes about 563 00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:45,584 Speaker 2: this part in isolation, like it sounds like she's really 564 00:24:45,664 --> 00:24:48,464 Speaker 2: pissed off in this moment, But then the interview has 565 00:24:48,504 --> 00:24:51,264 Speaker 2: little starts, like she starts laughing and then says and 566 00:24:51,304 --> 00:24:52,584 Speaker 2: it's like old school gross. 567 00:24:52,944 --> 00:24:55,224 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so interesting because again I think on that 568 00:24:55,304 --> 00:24:57,504 Speaker 1: fame thing, she's been famous for so long and she's 569 00:24:57,504 --> 00:24:59,704 Speaker 1: had some big missteps, most notably with some of the 570 00:24:59,784 --> 00:25:02,704 Speaker 1: characters she's chosen to play. So over the years, she's 571 00:25:02,704 --> 00:25:05,424 Speaker 1: played a character of Asian descent and she's obviously a 572 00:25:05,424 --> 00:25:07,544 Speaker 1: white woman, and at one stage she was going to 573 00:25:07,624 --> 00:25:10,064 Speaker 1: play a trans character I believe it was, and there 574 00:25:10,104 --> 00:25:12,464 Speaker 1: was so very much anger, and she put out kind 575 00:25:12,464 --> 00:25:14,584 Speaker 1: of like a snarky response and she listed all the 576 00:25:14,624 --> 00:25:16,664 Speaker 1: male actors who had done that and was like, if 577 00:25:16,704 --> 00:25:18,824 Speaker 1: you've got a problem, taken up with them, and then 578 00:25:18,864 --> 00:25:20,184 Speaker 1: she later pulled out and was like, I don't know, 579 00:25:20,224 --> 00:25:23,424 Speaker 1: I understand, But that became a running joke for a while. 580 00:25:23,584 --> 00:25:25,424 Speaker 1: There was like a big part coming up that was 581 00:25:25,464 --> 00:25:29,824 Speaker 1: like a character of color or something around like dance 582 00:25:29,864 --> 00:25:32,264 Speaker 1: on the phone, which I guess also is it not 583 00:25:32,304 --> 00:25:34,304 Speaker 1: just her, it's the filmmakers and her team and everything 584 00:25:34,384 --> 00:25:36,224 Speaker 1: like that. It's so funny because she's one of the 585 00:25:36,264 --> 00:25:39,104 Speaker 1: biggest stars in the world, but she bops around town 586 00:25:39,544 --> 00:25:41,904 Speaker 1: acting like just a little every woman, which I know 587 00:25:41,944 --> 00:25:43,704 Speaker 1: some celebs do, but it's very weird for her, Like 588 00:25:43,744 --> 00:25:45,384 Speaker 1: why was she hosting the Today Show? 589 00:25:45,504 --> 00:25:48,024 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's weird getting away with it though 590 00:25:48,304 --> 00:25:49,904 Speaker 3: maybe that's all part of it, man, that's part of 591 00:25:49,944 --> 00:25:52,264 Speaker 3: her trying to see because one of the segments in 592 00:25:52,304 --> 00:25:55,824 Speaker 3: the install magazine article, she's like cookies taking shit. 593 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:58,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, where they're like talking to her behind the scenes 594 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,464 Speaker 1: of the Today Show where she's hosting as a fill in, 595 00:26:01,784 --> 00:26:03,464 Speaker 1: and I remember that news came out. I'm like, is 596 00:26:03,464 --> 00:26:06,064 Speaker 1: this a joke? Because not there's anything wrong with hosting, 597 00:26:06,104 --> 00:26:09,464 Speaker 1: but normally that's not for the AA list actors. That's 598 00:26:09,464 --> 00:26:13,224 Speaker 1: like a Kate Winslow or you know Kate all the Kates, 599 00:26:13,824 --> 00:26:15,784 Speaker 1: or like a Jennifer Lawrence or someone like. They don't 600 00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:18,424 Speaker 1: often come on and do these whole really never like 601 00:26:18,464 --> 00:26:21,024 Speaker 1: an A list actress coming on and doing a whole 602 00:26:21,024 --> 00:26:23,384 Speaker 1: week of filling it on a morning show and having 603 00:26:23,424 --> 00:26:25,664 Speaker 1: to like do little segments where they cook things or 604 00:26:25,704 --> 00:26:27,504 Speaker 1: they be silly, and then Scarlet's talking about all the 605 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:29,464 Speaker 1: men that have ghosted her, and it's just it's so 606 00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:31,304 Speaker 1: funny because she doesn't need the money and she doesn't 607 00:26:31,344 --> 00:26:33,464 Speaker 1: need the exposure and she doesn't need it to get 608 00:26:33,464 --> 00:26:35,544 Speaker 1: film roles and normally, so what is she doing And 609 00:26:35,544 --> 00:26:37,024 Speaker 1: she doesn't need it because she wants to parlay it 610 00:26:37,024 --> 00:26:39,464 Speaker 1: into a full time role. She's just doing it because 611 00:26:39,504 --> 00:26:41,824 Speaker 1: she likes it, So that has to be it, right. 612 00:26:41,864 --> 00:26:43,024 Speaker 2: I don't know celebrities like that. 613 00:26:43,224 --> 00:26:44,104 Speaker 1: I know that's. 614 00:26:43,984 --> 00:26:44,664 Speaker 2: WOWD to me. 615 00:26:44,944 --> 00:26:47,384 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I guess when you have everything, you've 616 00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:50,184 Speaker 1: had it for thirty years, do you want that because 617 00:26:50,184 --> 00:26:52,424 Speaker 1: live TV is like a challenge or does she want 618 00:26:52,424 --> 00:26:54,544 Speaker 1: to do it because she feels like it makes her 619 00:26:54,584 --> 00:26:58,104 Speaker 1: this approachable every woman and then her whole skincare line 620 00:26:58,144 --> 00:26:59,344 Speaker 1: is meant to be for the every woman. 621 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:02,224 Speaker 2: That's true, but something about this, this is like what 622 00:27:02,264 --> 00:27:04,304 Speaker 2: she does instead of getting Instagram just like I'll just 623 00:27:04,304 --> 00:27:05,064 Speaker 2: do it today. 624 00:27:04,904 --> 00:27:06,664 Speaker 1: I'll do one week. I mean to be fair, that 625 00:27:06,704 --> 00:27:08,144 Speaker 1: could be the payoff. She's like, I'll just go and 626 00:27:08,144 --> 00:27:12,304 Speaker 1: do these little public moments a week. I'm doing TV hosting, 627 00:27:12,384 --> 00:27:14,984 Speaker 1: but it's light TV hosting, and then I go away 628 00:27:14,984 --> 00:27:17,424 Speaker 1: into my mega mansion and I don't post on Instagram 629 00:27:17,544 --> 00:27:18,784 Speaker 1: or anything for the rest of my life. 630 00:27:18,824 --> 00:27:21,144 Speaker 2: Oh, Skeleton, Handsome the og girl Boss, you. 631 00:27:21,104 --> 00:27:23,344 Speaker 1: Will, I love. I love that you're her newest fan. A. 632 00:27:23,344 --> 00:27:25,344 Speaker 1: You're gonna go back through her back catalog. Now, have 633 00:27:25,424 --> 00:27:26,584 Speaker 1: you seen Lost in Translation? 634 00:27:27,464 --> 00:27:30,064 Speaker 2: Yeah? Ages Ago God, probably should watch that. 635 00:27:30,144 --> 00:27:32,344 Speaker 1: I mean, she's obviously done other incredible movies. 636 00:27:32,424 --> 00:27:35,384 Speaker 2: I really liked Lucy, which I producer was talking about earlier. 637 00:27:35,424 --> 00:27:37,264 Speaker 1: We Under the Skin is also great. 638 00:27:37,384 --> 00:27:39,544 Speaker 2: I watched that movie. I watched what's the one where 639 00:27:39,544 --> 00:27:40,904 Speaker 2: she's the talking robot her? 640 00:27:41,104 --> 00:27:43,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's just a voice, Robert. She's great. 641 00:27:43,624 --> 00:27:45,984 Speaker 2: And she was also the snake in the Jungle Ball. Yeah, 642 00:27:46,024 --> 00:27:47,984 Speaker 2: she's a good voice actor. I can just go back 643 00:27:47,984 --> 00:27:51,904 Speaker 2: through and discover her. Yeah, she's done with Avengers. Sorry, 644 00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:55,384 Speaker 2: she might not spoilers. She was really done with Avenge. 645 00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:56,224 Speaker 1: She's so done. 646 00:27:56,704 --> 00:27:59,064 Speaker 2: So if you were like hoping for little like I 647 00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:02,344 Speaker 2: was sorry about that. But we'll link the whole interview 648 00:28:02,544 --> 00:28:04,744 Speaker 2: in our show notes because we just didn't talk about 649 00:28:04,744 --> 00:28:07,584 Speaker 2: it enough. I guess. Thank you so much for listening 650 00:28:07,664 --> 00:28:09,264 Speaker 2: to the Spill today. LB, do you mind if I 651 00:28:09,344 --> 00:28:10,344 Speaker 2: stroke my ego a little bit? 652 00:28:10,744 --> 00:28:12,464 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely. I don't know how that's different to every 653 00:28:12,504 --> 00:28:13,024 Speaker 1: other episode. 654 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:16,104 Speaker 2: But okay, I got a few dms over the weekend 655 00:28:16,224 --> 00:28:17,464 Speaker 2: and I want to read one of them out to 656 00:28:17,464 --> 00:28:19,144 Speaker 2: you because I're all in the same kind of line. 657 00:28:19,224 --> 00:28:22,024 Speaker 2: And this person said, I'm a fan of the Spill 658 00:28:22,064 --> 00:28:24,144 Speaker 2: pod and we can watch and this week with your 659 00:28:24,184 --> 00:28:28,264 Speaker 2: Drive to Survive season seven recommendation, it was perfection. I'm 660 00:28:28,304 --> 00:28:28,944 Speaker 2: just gonna say it. 661 00:28:29,464 --> 00:28:32,064 Speaker 1: Look at you, the girl a TV grow of the people. 662 00:28:32,264 --> 00:28:34,024 Speaker 2: I also wrote about it, so we'll link that in 663 00:28:34,064 --> 00:28:35,784 Speaker 2: our show notes if you want to read. But yeah, 664 00:28:35,864 --> 00:28:37,584 Speaker 2: everyone wants to Drive to Survive. Have I convinced you 665 00:28:37,624 --> 00:28:40,984 Speaker 2: to watch it? Come on? Not even my dramatic reading. 666 00:28:41,024 --> 00:28:43,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, your dermaic creams. But I had told multiple people 667 00:28:43,384 --> 00:28:46,064 Speaker 1: about your dramatic reading and talk to them about it. 668 00:28:46,104 --> 00:28:48,224 Speaker 1: So you definitely gave me an opportunity to be involved 669 00:28:48,224 --> 00:28:48,864 Speaker 1: in the conversation. 670 00:28:49,064 --> 00:28:51,464 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. The Spill is 671 00:28:51,464 --> 00:28:54,144 Speaker 2: produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik, 672 00:28:54,184 --> 00:28:55,824 Speaker 2: and we'll be back here on your podcast feed at 673 00:28:55,824 --> 00:29:03,504 Speaker 2: three pm tomorrow, Bye Bye,