1 00:00:11,365 --> 00:00:14,465 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to you Beauty. The podcast for your face. 2 00:00:14,474 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 1: I'm not usually the voice in your ears on this show. 3 00:00:17,514 --> 00:00:20,984 Speaker 1: My name's Mia Friedman. I host a podcast called No Philtre, 4 00:00:21,055 --> 00:00:24,225 Speaker 1: and I'm co-host of another one called Mamma Mia out loud. 5 00:00:24,255 --> 00:00:27,984 Speaker 1: But because I am a very much committed Eubie over 6 00:00:27,994 --> 00:00:31,074 Speaker 1: the next six weeks, we are doing a little mini 7 00:00:31,124 --> 00:00:34,294 Speaker 1: series conversation with beauty guru, expert and 8 00:00:34,390 --> 00:00:36,580 Speaker 1: author of the new book about skincare called The Glow 9 00:00:36,589 --> 00:00:39,609 Speaker 1: Up Paula Joy, which is gonna help you get the 10 00:00:39,619 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: best glow of your life. You wanna glow up? You 11 00:00:41,970 --> 00:00:45,049 Speaker 1: are about to experience a glow up year. The glow 12 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:50,409 Speaker 1: is a real Hello, Paula. Hello. We are chatting today 13 00:00:50,420 --> 00:00:54,420 Speaker 1: about game changer if you don't have a huge amount 14 00:00:54,429 --> 00:00:57,290 Speaker 1: to spend, and skincare can be pretty spendy. 15 00:00:57,554 --> 00:01:01,734 Speaker 1: Let's talk about where the biggest bang for your buck 16 00:01:01,745 --> 00:01:04,955 Speaker 1: is gonna be. What are the ingredients and the products 17 00:01:04,964 --> 00:01:08,315 Speaker 1: that you need in your routine to really elevate your 18 00:01:08,324 --> 00:01:10,495 Speaker 1: beauty game? And first of all, I wanna ask you 19 00:01:10,505 --> 00:01:13,295 Speaker 1: what's the most random product that you've tried and loved 20 00:01:13,304 --> 00:01:14,415 Speaker 1: for your skin snail? 21 00:01:15,059 --> 00:01:20,690 Speaker 1: What's that? OK, it's derived from the slime left by 22 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,690 Speaker 1: the common snail. Do you have it crawl on your face? 23 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:25,879 Speaker 1: How do you take it in a jar? You use 24 00:01:25,889 --> 00:01:28,650 Speaker 1: it as a cream. So it's been, um, really brought 25 00:01:28,660 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: to the forefront with Korean skincare 26 00:01:31,694 --> 00:01:35,035 Speaker 1: What it is. It's a fantastic, fantastic hydrator. So it's 27 00:01:35,044 --> 00:01:39,995 Speaker 1: got antioxidants in it hyaluronic glycolic, and it really, really 28 00:01:40,004 --> 00:01:42,874 Speaker 1: hydrates and seals in your skin. Is it? Cos Rx 29 00:01:42,885 --> 00:01:45,404 Speaker 1: just got into the garden? No, don't do that under 30 00:01:45,474 --> 00:01:49,974 Speaker 1: no circumstances. Just kidding. No, don't do that. Cos Rx, 31 00:01:49,984 --> 00:01:53,105 Speaker 1: which I think you can get on a door. 50 bucks, 32 00:01:53,304 --> 00:01:56,245 Speaker 1: actually. Really good. Let's talk about products first of all. 33 00:01:56,254 --> 00:01:58,504 Speaker 1: So if I've got a beauty budget and I've got 34 00:01:58,514 --> 00:02:02,675 Speaker 1: to invest my money somewhere, what are the skincare spending 35 00:02:02,684 --> 00:02:05,825 Speaker 1: categories and what are the savy ones, like for makeup? 36 00:02:06,025 --> 00:02:08,484 Speaker 1: I don't spend a lot of money on mascara, for example. 37 00:02:08,495 --> 00:02:10,554 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a bit of a waste for me. 38 00:02:10,624 --> 00:02:13,624 Speaker 1: Other people feel that way about lipstick or maybe whatever, 39 00:02:13,635 --> 00:02:14,845 Speaker 1: and you spend a bit more on foundation 40 00:02:15,275 --> 00:02:17,685 Speaker 1: talk to us about skincare. Well, I think you can 41 00:02:17,694 --> 00:02:21,625 Speaker 1: definitely save on sunscreen for sure, as long as it's 42 00:02:21,635 --> 00:02:25,204 Speaker 1: SPF 50. I don't really care what you're putting on there. 43 00:02:25,215 --> 00:02:27,715 Speaker 1: Just make it SPF 50 do it every day. 44 00:02:28,405 --> 00:02:32,704 Speaker 1: Acid exfoliants exfoliant in general is another area that you 45 00:02:32,715 --> 00:02:37,454 Speaker 1: can save because, ah, glycolic acids pH and they're your 46 00:02:37,465 --> 00:02:42,144 Speaker 1: general acid. Exfoliants are very stable. They can be done 47 00:02:42,155 --> 00:02:45,954 Speaker 1: really well at a budget price point. And as long 48 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:48,144 Speaker 1: as you patch test and find a brand you like, 49 00:02:48,155 --> 00:02:50,614 Speaker 1: that's definitely an area. What are some examples of those 50 00:02:50,625 --> 00:02:51,864 Speaker 1: products I love 51 00:02:51,965 --> 00:02:57,965 Speaker 1: love Paula's choice. 2% Ph. Exfoliant. That's about 50 bucks, 52 00:02:57,974 --> 00:03:02,174 Speaker 1: and it is so good. It is literally one pump 53 00:03:02,194 --> 00:03:03,995 Speaker 1: twice a week, if you can manage it, so that 54 00:03:04,004 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 1: would last a really long, really long isn't very savy, 55 00:03:07,715 --> 00:03:10,644 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm talking like a broad bean, not 56 00:03:10,685 --> 00:03:13,215 Speaker 1: a P like a broad bean. And it's a lasts 57 00:03:13,224 --> 00:03:15,385 Speaker 1: a long time, and it's really good. 58 00:03:15,784 --> 00:03:20,084 Speaker 1: I would spend your money in the actives in the serums. 59 00:03:20,094 --> 00:03:22,554 Speaker 1: So really, I say to people you want to make 60 00:03:22,564 --> 00:03:25,045 Speaker 1: a change in your skin, do it in the serums, 61 00:03:25,054 --> 00:03:28,325 Speaker 1: mainly because you can understand how much you're putting on 62 00:03:28,334 --> 00:03:30,364 Speaker 1: your skin and what you're putting on your skin. It's 63 00:03:30,375 --> 00:03:33,204 Speaker 1: not a moisturiser with lots and lots of things in it, 64 00:03:33,215 --> 00:03:35,364 Speaker 1: or a cleanser with lots and lots of things in it. 65 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:39,304 Speaker 1: You can really understand and see your money in a serum, 66 00:03:39,314 --> 00:03:39,885 Speaker 1: so I think that that 67 00:03:39,959 --> 00:03:41,459 Speaker 1: that's a good place to put it. It's so much 68 00:03:41,469 --> 00:03:43,739 Speaker 1: more concentrated. Can you tell me your favourite serums and 69 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:46,860 Speaker 1: what they do? I mean, I love Estee Lauder Advanced 70 00:03:46,870 --> 00:03:49,129 Speaker 1: night repair. That's an oldie but a goodie that was 71 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:51,739 Speaker 1: around when we were starting in magazines 30 years ago. 72 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:54,730 Speaker 1: It's still an OG. It is a great all rounder, 73 00:03:54,739 --> 00:03:58,719 Speaker 1: as is Clarins Double serum. If you need a starter 74 00:03:58,730 --> 00:04:01,629 Speaker 1: serum or you want just a serum that will do 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,079 Speaker 1: everything I always say, they're fantastic to try 76 00:04:04,415 --> 00:04:07,935 Speaker 1: with because they just kind of cover all the bases. 77 00:04:07,944 --> 00:04:11,575 Speaker 1: They're not aggressive. They're not going to completely sort of 78 00:04:11,584 --> 00:04:16,435 Speaker 1: change your skin really fast. But over time and consistently, 79 00:04:16,444 --> 00:04:19,034 Speaker 1: they both do a good job. You know, they're goats 80 00:04:19,045 --> 00:04:21,485 Speaker 1: for a reason. When you say goats, you mean greatest 81 00:04:21,495 --> 00:04:23,355 Speaker 1: of all time. Just in case anyone thinks they're made 82 00:04:23,364 --> 00:04:27,395 Speaker 1: from goats, they're not made from goats, unlike the snail mucus. 83 00:04:27,404 --> 00:04:27,994 Speaker 1: You never know 84 00:04:28,309 --> 00:04:32,069 Speaker 1: with those kind of serums. Should I be wearing a 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,670 Speaker 1: serum before my moisturiser? And how many serums can I 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,670 Speaker 1: wear at once? Best way to look at layering is 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,659 Speaker 1: to work in consistency of the product. So cleansing first, 88 00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:48,140 Speaker 1: because obviously you're washing it off. Serums are generally more 89 00:04:48,149 --> 00:04:51,529 Speaker 1: watery or an acid exfoliant is more watery. So whichever 90 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:52,409 Speaker 1: one you're using, 91 00:04:52,665 --> 00:04:56,205 Speaker 1: moisturiser is thicker and then sunscreen again. So that's generally 92 00:04:56,214 --> 00:04:58,985 Speaker 1: the way that you look at layering. You can wear 93 00:04:58,994 --> 00:05:02,085 Speaker 1: as many serums as you like, really like there's no 94 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:05,404 Speaker 1: limit to serums. I would just sort of question why 95 00:05:05,575 --> 00:05:10,085 Speaker 1: you needed them. Um, during covid, I disrupted my skin barrier. 96 00:05:10,094 --> 00:05:12,455 Speaker 1: How many did you use? I like all of them 97 00:05:12,464 --> 00:05:15,165 Speaker 1: because I was you know, people say you eat your feelings. 98 00:05:15,175 --> 00:05:17,325 Speaker 1: I was buying serums for my feelings, 99 00:05:17,408 --> 00:05:19,718 Speaker 1: which during lockdown were a lot. So I think a 100 00:05:19,727 --> 00:05:23,017 Speaker 1: lot of women disrupted their skin barrier during Covid because 101 00:05:23,028 --> 00:05:26,088 Speaker 1: skincare was kind of all we could do in terms 102 00:05:26,098 --> 00:05:30,308 Speaker 1: of shopping and buying. I like to use like, skin cycle, 103 00:05:30,318 --> 00:05:34,058 Speaker 1: and I like to use one ingredient or two ingredients 104 00:05:34,068 --> 00:05:36,098 Speaker 1: that are sort of bed fellows, because then you can 105 00:05:36,107 --> 00:05:39,468 Speaker 1: really actually see and understand whether your skin likes it 106 00:05:39,477 --> 00:05:41,787 Speaker 1: or not. If you're chucking the kitchen, sink 107 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: your face and you react to something which is and 108 00:05:45,530 --> 00:05:47,550 Speaker 1: which is it? What is it? There's also nothing wrong 109 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: with patch testing, particularly if you've got any skin sensitivity 110 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:54,580 Speaker 1: patch test before you put it all over your face. 111 00:05:54,791 --> 00:05:56,661 Speaker 1: Because you know you could end up with a really 112 00:05:56,671 --> 00:05:58,671 Speaker 1: big reaction, which could be saved just by putting it 113 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,941 Speaker 1: behind your ear one night. Right? Two of the active 114 00:06:01,951 --> 00:06:05,691 Speaker 1: serums that you hear so much about are vitamin C 115 00:06:05,701 --> 00:06:06,770 Speaker 1: and retinol. 116 00:06:07,265 --> 00:06:10,034 Speaker 1: Is it true that you should use vitamin C in 117 00:06:10,045 --> 00:06:13,254 Speaker 1: the morning and retinol at night? That is the way 118 00:06:13,265 --> 00:06:16,885 Speaker 1: that they're marketed. The reason. You shouldn't use retinol in 119 00:06:16,895 --> 00:06:19,925 Speaker 1: the day people think, Oh, you'll be more sensitive to 120 00:06:19,934 --> 00:06:20,485 Speaker 1: the sun. 121 00:06:20,844 --> 00:06:25,774 Speaker 1: It actually can affect the efficacy of your sunscreen, which then, 122 00:06:25,784 --> 00:06:28,874 Speaker 1: of course, will break down. The retinol makes the retinol 123 00:06:28,895 --> 00:06:32,615 Speaker 1: less effective, so the reason to use it at night 124 00:06:32,624 --> 00:06:36,934 Speaker 1: is that vitamin C is a brightener by its nature, 125 00:06:36,944 --> 00:06:37,615 Speaker 1: its radiant 126 00:06:37,705 --> 00:06:42,464 Speaker 1: inducing it's glow inducing. It's also orange and it kind 127 00:06:42,474 --> 00:06:45,605 Speaker 1: of goes with your orange juice. It's a very good 128 00:06:45,615 --> 00:06:49,594 Speaker 1: basic skin care routine for somebody over 40 or even 129 00:06:49,605 --> 00:06:53,004 Speaker 1: over 30 would be cleanse vitamin C in the morning. 130 00:06:53,015 --> 00:06:58,675 Speaker 1: Moisturiser sunscreen in the evening, double cleanse and then exfoliant 131 00:06:58,684 --> 00:07:02,105 Speaker 1: if you want, and or a retinol and then moisturiser 132 00:07:02,115 --> 00:07:03,805 Speaker 1: oil if you want. And then bed 133 00:07:09,015 --> 00:07:11,904 Speaker 1: Talk to me about double cleansing. I used to think 134 00:07:11,915 --> 00:07:13,444 Speaker 1: it was a croc. I used to think it was 135 00:07:13,455 --> 00:07:16,464 Speaker 1: just a way for skincare companies to make us buy 136 00:07:16,474 --> 00:07:17,194 Speaker 1: more products. 137 00:07:17,645 --> 00:07:20,784 Speaker 1: Is it? It's absolutely essential. But only at night time 138 00:07:21,105 --> 00:07:24,455 Speaker 1: in the morning, under the shower, a little pump of anything. 139 00:07:24,474 --> 00:07:26,395 Speaker 1: Why do you need to do it twice? Because you 140 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:29,055 Speaker 1: have to take the day off first when I say 141 00:07:29,064 --> 00:07:34,305 Speaker 1: the day it is grime, dirt pollution free radical damage 142 00:07:34,314 --> 00:07:37,314 Speaker 1: from like blue light, all the free radicals that are 143 00:07:37,325 --> 00:07:40,974 Speaker 1: coming at your skin all day, every day. Makeup. Obviously, 144 00:07:41,205 --> 00:07:42,585 Speaker 1: Micellar water is not 145 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:47,050 Speaker 1: cleanser that is gonna take yours. Controversial Micellar water is 146 00:07:47,060 --> 00:07:48,870 Speaker 1: not a cleanser, but it's not. You really need an 147 00:07:48,881 --> 00:07:51,530 Speaker 1: oil cleanser for that first cleanse because it'll do the 148 00:07:51,541 --> 00:07:56,490 Speaker 1: job like oil. Actually, will bind with all of the 149 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:58,631 Speaker 1: other oils on your skin and take it off. And 150 00:07:58,641 --> 00:08:01,090 Speaker 1: then you need a second quick cleanse to get rid 151 00:08:01,101 --> 00:08:03,601 Speaker 1: of the residue from the first cleanse and get your 152 00:08:03,611 --> 00:08:06,180 Speaker 1: skin ready for the actives that you're gonna put on it. 153 00:08:06,191 --> 00:08:07,611 Speaker 1: It's so important. Clean 154 00:08:07,697 --> 00:08:11,076 Speaker 1: your skin like wash your fucking face. Otherwise, you may 155 00:08:11,086 --> 00:08:13,197 Speaker 1: as well be like sleeping with your head in a bin. 156 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:15,877 Speaker 1: I can't tell you like it is. So you don't 157 00:08:15,886 --> 00:08:18,106 Speaker 1: want to do that? No. Just like wash your face. 158 00:08:18,116 --> 00:08:20,997 Speaker 1: It's not just splashing water. It sort of. It shocks 159 00:08:21,007 --> 00:08:23,537 Speaker 1: me that people don't understand. You can't just splash some 160 00:08:23,546 --> 00:08:27,236 Speaker 1: water on your face. New that is not cleaning your skin. 161 00:08:27,247 --> 00:08:30,056 Speaker 1: What about makeup wipes? I don't like them. I think 162 00:08:30,067 --> 00:08:32,636 Speaker 1: they're crap. I think that they're bad for the environment, 163 00:08:32,855 --> 00:08:37,585 Speaker 1: like they're good for emergencies. Festivals there, all those music festivals. 164 00:08:37,594 --> 00:08:39,684 Speaker 1: I go to all of them like I just think 165 00:08:39,694 --> 00:08:41,875 Speaker 1: that they're not good. You're just pushing dirt around on 166 00:08:41,884 --> 00:08:44,425 Speaker 1: your face. It's like getting a tissue and pushing dirt around. 167 00:08:44,435 --> 00:08:47,555 Speaker 1: They're not doing the job. Caroline Hirons once said that 168 00:08:48,115 --> 00:08:49,755 Speaker 1: she was giving a speech to a whole lot of 169 00:08:49,764 --> 00:08:52,334 Speaker 1: important skinned people. And someone asked her that question. And 170 00:08:52,344 --> 00:08:54,834 Speaker 1: she said, If you just use cleansing wipes on your face, 171 00:08:54,844 --> 00:08:58,115 Speaker 1: it's like only wiping your bum and never having a shower. 172 00:08:58,844 --> 00:09:01,485 Speaker 1: That's a really good analogy. And I told my friends 173 00:09:01,495 --> 00:09:03,625 Speaker 1: that and they've never been the same. I've got friends 174 00:09:03,634 --> 00:09:06,735 Speaker 1: who don't know a lot about skincare, and I was 175 00:09:06,745 --> 00:09:08,295 Speaker 1: in a group chat with them and giving them a 176 00:09:08,305 --> 00:09:10,255 Speaker 1: bit of advice. And they were like, Oh, but I 177 00:09:10,264 --> 00:09:11,935 Speaker 1: just use makeup wipes And I told them that. And 178 00:09:11,945 --> 00:09:14,245 Speaker 1: now you know, I mean, it is it's just pushing 179 00:09:14,255 --> 00:09:16,264 Speaker 1: the dirt around. Yeah, it is. It's like going on 180 00:09:16,274 --> 00:09:18,464 Speaker 1: a holiday with kids. You're just moving the problem, 181 00:09:20,315 --> 00:09:23,704 Speaker 1: your first cleanser being a balm or an oil. Are 182 00:09:23,714 --> 00:09:26,545 Speaker 1: there any brands that you can get at the chemist? Because, 183 00:09:26,555 --> 00:09:28,255 Speaker 1: I mean, there's Clinique. Take the day off, which I 184 00:09:28,264 --> 00:09:31,255 Speaker 1: really like. Alpha H has a melting one, which feels 185 00:09:31,264 --> 00:09:35,295 Speaker 1: amazing on your face, but they're not cheap. I'm always 186 00:09:35,305 --> 00:09:39,974 Speaker 1: looking for, like, oil based cleanses or balms that 187 00:09:40,074 --> 00:09:43,154 Speaker 1: you know of like Neutrogena. Does anyone that you know 188 00:09:43,165 --> 00:09:46,724 Speaker 1: of make one of those sereve do a great oil cleanser. 189 00:09:46,735 --> 00:09:50,714 Speaker 1: So do AVE. So do bioderma. All the French brands, 190 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:53,474 Speaker 1: not the Seve Seve is actually American, even though it 191 00:09:53,485 --> 00:09:56,084 Speaker 1: sounds very French. But it doesn't have to be a balm, 192 00:09:56,094 --> 00:09:58,625 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be super luxurious. It's just 193 00:09:58,634 --> 00:09:59,735 Speaker 1: got to have oil in it 194 00:10:00,045 --> 00:10:02,545 Speaker 1: to actually be able to bind on the grime and 195 00:10:02,555 --> 00:10:05,165 Speaker 1: get it off your face. And also, oil is just 196 00:10:05,175 --> 00:10:08,884 Speaker 1: by nature, not tey. It's not pulling your skin, and 197 00:10:08,894 --> 00:10:11,945 Speaker 1: it feels nice. You know I'm big on massage Anytime 198 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:13,945 Speaker 1: you can get your hands into your skin 199 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:17,755 Speaker 1: and release the tension in your jaw and bring blood 200 00:10:17,764 --> 00:10:20,235 Speaker 1: flow to the surface. That is one of the best 201 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:24,324 Speaker 1: free bits of advice I can give you is not 202 00:10:24,334 --> 00:10:28,634 Speaker 1: just exercise, but get circulation to the top layer of 203 00:10:28,644 --> 00:10:32,315 Speaker 1: your skin. It will make you look instantly healthier, more 204 00:10:32,324 --> 00:10:34,904 Speaker 1: snatched any way you can put your head over a 205 00:10:34,915 --> 00:10:35,394 Speaker 1: bed 206 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:37,884 Speaker 1: and let the blood flow to your head. It's a really, 207 00:10:37,894 --> 00:10:40,945 Speaker 1: really cheap beauty trick. Can you give me a quick 208 00:10:40,954 --> 00:10:44,625 Speaker 1: spendy savy anything? A great spendy skincare product and a 209 00:10:44,634 --> 00:10:48,024 Speaker 1: great savy one? OK, spendy that I'm loving is the 210 00:10:48,034 --> 00:10:52,615 Speaker 1: secret acne spot treatment, and that's about 150 bucks. 211 00:10:52,884 --> 00:10:58,634 Speaker 1: The secret is an Australian prescription brand made by two doctors, 212 00:10:58,795 --> 00:11:02,615 Speaker 1: and they have a non-prescription range. And this spot treatment, 213 00:11:02,685 --> 00:11:06,435 Speaker 1: which is salicylic based, is so excellent it will last 214 00:11:06,445 --> 00:11:09,394 Speaker 1: you forever. And if you're getting like Perry or meow 215 00:11:10,235 --> 00:11:14,324 Speaker 1: acne, hormonal acne, this is just like it's overnight. It's 216 00:11:14,334 --> 00:11:17,555 Speaker 1: zaps said. It's got vitamin A. It's unreal. What about 217 00:11:17,565 --> 00:11:20,795 Speaker 1: a savy? My savy is the cinch. Sleep and glow 218 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:24,974 Speaker 1: five in one overnight skin booster. This sleep mask is 219 00:11:24,985 --> 00:11:29,185 Speaker 1: really inexpensive, and it snatches your skin. You put it 220 00:11:29,195 --> 00:11:31,654 Speaker 1: on at night instead of moisturiser. In fact, that's all 221 00:11:31,665 --> 00:11:33,685 Speaker 1: I put on. I double cleanse, and I put this on. 222 00:11:33,815 --> 00:11:37,945 Speaker 1: The tube's like $40.42 dollars and you wake up and 223 00:11:37,954 --> 00:11:38,255 Speaker 1: you're 224 00:11:38,394 --> 00:11:42,074 Speaker 1: skin is so hydrated and glowy it's I told me 225 00:11:42,165 --> 00:11:44,824 Speaker 1: to get this and I add tanning drops to it 226 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:47,774 Speaker 1: and that Really, if you want to wake up, transform 227 00:11:47,784 --> 00:11:50,755 Speaker 1: do that. Which tanning drops? Do you use Clarins body? 228 00:11:50,834 --> 00:11:54,105 Speaker 1: I actually use the Clarins ones for the body because 229 00:11:54,115 --> 00:11:56,805 Speaker 1: they're a beautiful sort of just honey glowy thing. You 230 00:11:56,815 --> 00:11:59,445 Speaker 1: mix them together and it's like, Oh, I like that. 231 00:11:59,454 --> 00:12:02,495 Speaker 1: I use the tan Lux illuminating face ones. Yeah. Excellent. 232 00:12:02,505 --> 00:12:05,175 Speaker 1: Just a couple of those. They work a treat as well. 233 00:12:05,505 --> 00:12:06,454 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening 234 00:12:06,555 --> 00:12:08,514 Speaker 1: This episode of you beauty. We're gonna be back next 235 00:12:08,524 --> 00:12:12,274 Speaker 1: week with more skin and more conversations about how to 236 00:12:12,284 --> 00:12:15,964 Speaker 1: get glowy with Paula Joy, author of the Glow Up. 237 00:12:15,974 --> 00:12:17,915 Speaker 1: If you have a question that you want the fabulous 238 00:12:17,925 --> 00:12:20,435 Speaker 1: Paula to answer, you can email us at you beauty 239 00:12:20,445 --> 00:12:23,245 Speaker 1: at mamma mia.com dot a U or slide into our 240 00:12:23,255 --> 00:12:26,834 Speaker 1: D MS on instagram at you Beauty podcast. The executive 241 00:12:26,844 --> 00:12:29,925 Speaker 1: producer of this episode is Talisa For Zaz. The producer 242 00:12:29,935 --> 00:12:33,844 Speaker 1: is Cassie Merritt with audio production by Leah Porges. See 243 00:12:33,855 --> 00:12:34,574 Speaker 1: you next week.