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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is MMA MIA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. A landmark Victoria Women's Pain inquiry

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Speaker 2: has laid bare what women knew all along. Their pain

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Speaker 2: is real, but too often dismissed and ignored. So what's

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Speaker 2: premierg just Into Alan doing to change the system? I

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Speaker 2: spoke with her to find out. We'll also look at

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Speaker 2: Victoria's First in the Nation move on a legislated treaty

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Speaker 2: with First Nations peoples, and the growing concerns around Melbourne

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Speaker 2: being branded Australia's crime capital. Before we get there, here's

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Speaker 2: Clare Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: November twelve.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor Ossie. Actress Ruby Rose has hit out at

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Speaker 1: Euphori star Sidney Sweeney, calling her a cretn and placing

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Speaker 1: blames squarely on her shoulders for the lack of interest

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Speaker 1: in her new movie. Sweeney is currently promoting the film

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Speaker 1: about boxer and domestic abuse survivor Christy Martin, which has

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Speaker 1: experienced a less than enthusiastic opening at the box office.

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Speaker 1: Ruby Rose taking to threads to say that she was

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Speaker 1: initially tapped for the role, and that the original lineup

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Speaker 1: was almost entirely queer before Sweeney came on board, accusing

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Speaker 1: her of hating gay people. Rose wrote for Sweeney's pr

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Speaker 1: to talk about it flopping and saying Sidney Sweeney took

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Speaker 1: the role for the people. She said, none of the

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Speaker 1: people want to see someone who hates them parading around

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Speaker 1: pretending to be us. She then called Sweeney a cretin

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Speaker 1: and claimed she ruined the film, saying Christie deserved better.

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Speaker 1: Sweeney has taken to Instagram to defend the film's low

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Speaker 1: opening weekend numbers, saying she's proud of the film they've made,

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Speaker 1: proud of the story they told, and that she was

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Speaker 1: proud to represent someone as strong and resilient as Christy Martin.

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Speaker 1: Former Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds biard to bankrupt her former

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Speaker 1: staff for Britney Higgins has hit a roadblock. Reynolds successfully

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Speaker 1: sued miss Higgins over a series of social media posts

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Speaker 1: the former defense minister believe damaged her reputation. She was

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Speaker 1: awarded down I memagrees of three hundred and fifteen thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars plus twenty six thousand dollars interest with Higgins also

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Speaker 1: ordered to pay eighty percent of her former boss's legal costs,

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Speaker 1: which estimated to be more than one million dollars. Miss

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Speaker 1: Reynolds launch bankruptcy proceedings in October against miss Higgins to

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Speaker 1: recoup the costs awarded in her defamation win. A federal

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Speaker 1: court hearing yesterday was expected to result in Higgins being

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Speaker 1: declared bankrupt, but a technical issue led to the matter

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Speaker 1: being adjourned. Miss Reynold's lawyer said his client would continue

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Speaker 1: to pursue miss Higgins after he had complied with the

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Speaker 1: court's request for more information, saying that his client has

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Speaker 1: incredibly disappointed that miss Higgins got two point four million

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Speaker 1: dollars worth of tax payer money and yet has paid

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Speaker 1: not a cent towards the judgment against her. If Miss

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Speaker 1: Higgins is rendered bankrupt by a court order, a trustee

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Speaker 1: will be appointed and could investigate a trust that Miss

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Speaker 1: Reynolds's alleges the former staffer is using to protect her

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Speaker 1: commonwealth payout. The Tasmanian Parliament will formally apologize to the

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Speaker 1: families of people whose body parts were harvested during Corona

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Speaker 1: autopsy and sometimes displayed at a university museum after A

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Speaker 1: probe was launched in twenty sixteen after the museum's curator

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Speaker 1: raised concerns over three specimens. A coronial investigation in September

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Speaker 1: found the University of Tasmania's ra Roder Museum had actually

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Speaker 1: research purposes between nineteen sixty six and nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: The remains had been collected from coronial autopsies without the

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Speaker 1: Guy Barnett on Tuesday said the government would consult with

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Speaker 1: a date to be set. Pictures of the Duke and

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Speaker 1: Duchess of Sussex at Chris Jenna's seventieth birthday bash have

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian and Chris Jennis social media platforms showed Megan

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, from Women's Pain to Women's Safety, we

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Speaker 2: chat with vik Premier Justin to Allan about the two

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Speaker 2: crises hurting women most. What does it really take to

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Speaker 2: get politicians to listen to women's pain? In Victoria, more

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Speaker 2: than thirteen thousand women aged twelve to nearly eighty shared

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Speaker 2: their stories. The Bridging the Gender Pain Gap Inquiry exposed

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Speaker 2: what so many have known for years. Women's pain is

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Speaker 2: frequently ignored, dismissed, or treated as just part of life. Sexism, misogyny,

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Speaker 2: assumptions about race or weight. It's all been baked into

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Speaker 2: The inquiry found that ninety percent of women experience pain

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Speaker 2: lasting more than a year, fifty four percent into a

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Speaker 2: a whole slate of new measures has been introduced to

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Speaker 2: help close the pain gap, everything from providing access to

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Speaker 2: the green whistle during IUD insertions that's that pain and

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Speaker 2: halo they give footy players who've broken their collar bone

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Speaker 2: for regional women, mobile health clinics will take specialists on

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Speaker 2: the road so country women don't miss out either. So

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Speaker 2: while we've got the premiere today, we'll find out more

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Speaker 2: about how Victoria plans to tackle women's pain, plus a

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Speaker 2: few other pressing issues for her state and ossies everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That includes Victoria becoming the first state in Australia to

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Speaker 2: representative body and signaling a formal commitment to reckon with

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Speaker 2: the past, transform relationships and invest in real structural change.

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Speaker 2: It's historic and, as cynics note, still controversial in some

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Speaker 2: Dubbed the crime Capital of the nation. Newstats shown eighteen

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Speaker 2: in the last twelve months, and while the rise of

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Speaker 2: antisocial behavior is nationwide at the moment, Victorians are asking

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Speaker 2: siner Allen's plate. So what does the Victorian premier have

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Speaker 2: to say to it all? Well, let's ask her premier.

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Speaker 2: We heard from this Victoria Women's Pain Inquiry that women

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Speaker 2: felt dismissed, girls felt ignored by their clinicians. You yourself

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Speaker 2: live with and Demetrios as we've actually spoken about it

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Speaker 3: It went directly to my own lived experience and it

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Speaker 3: told me very clearly, both as a premier but as

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Speaker 3: open this culture where for too long women's pain has

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Speaker 3: it hasn't been treated in the way that it should be. Again,

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Speaker 3: it spoke to my experiences and it was real for

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Speaker 2: So one of those initiatives is to launch free access

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Speaker 3: This will be transformative and if you consider women put off,

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Speaker 3: this pain as a barrier women accessing this form of contraception,

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Speaker 3: it's reducing women's control over their bodies and also it's

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Speaker 3: adding another barrier to women being able to participate in

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Speaker 3: So it's also giving women not just control over their bodies,

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Speaker 2: How do we make sure then that the green Whistle

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Speaker 3: That's a really good point, because the green Whistle is

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Speaker 3: One of the other key changes we announced with the

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Speaker 3: set very clear and consistent standards right across our health system.

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Speaker 3: In Victoria about the way women are to be listened

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Speaker 2: I want to move on premire to something else that

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Speaker 2: the Victorian government has just put into power in the

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Speaker 2: Can you just tell us a bit about how that'll

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Speaker 3: Look, it was a really big and important moment in history,

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Speaker 3: we know our indigenous populations have experienced pretty much since colonization,

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Speaker 2: Premiere. In recent weeks, you've reiterated that Victoria and the

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Speaker 2: Susan Lee has dubbed Melbourney crime Capital of Australia, despite

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Speaker 2: high profile incidents such as those knife attacks and Luna

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Speaker 3: At the moment, it does concern me that people don't

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Speaker 3: even more concerning when I have sat and listened to

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Speaker 3: the experiences of too many victims of crime. So as Premier,

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Speaker 3: listening to victims of crime. Understanding that people don't feel

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Speaker 3: make changes like strengthening the BAIO laws that is seeing

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Speaker 3: also know there's more to do. Victoria Police also tell

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Speaker 3: us that we need new responses to this brazen, violent

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Speaker 3: also consider further measures that there's sense of really clear

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Speaker 2: Look, it's not just Melbourne. Obviously we've seen this increase

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Speaker 2: of the worst. I'm thinking of things like those March

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Speaker 2: Now you've rejected calls for a protest permit system, how

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Speaker 3: Well, that example that you cited was just violence. It

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Speaker 3: On the broader issue of permits though, we've seen in

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Speaker 2: And what about women specifically? This week would have been

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Speaker 3: Look, this is so so important that we keep talking

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mumama Fashion department tells me that skinny jeans are back.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 2: us today. The Quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano,

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Speaker 2: Laria Brophy, and Clay Murphy, with audio production by lou Hill.

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