1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,264 --> 00:00:27,984 Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 6 00:00:27,984 --> 00:00:28,664 Speaker 3: culture fix. 7 00:00:28,864 --> 00:00:30,824 Speaker 1: I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick. 8 00:00:30,984 --> 00:00:34,424 Speaker 3: On the show. Today, Channing Tatum and Jeneta WARN's divorce 9 00:00:34,504 --> 00:00:38,504 Speaker 3: has finally been finalized, but there's way more to the story. 10 00:00:38,584 --> 00:00:41,944 Speaker 3: We will be unpacking all of that, but first, Will 11 00:00:42,104 --> 00:00:45,584 Speaker 3: Ferrell has released a new documentary on Netflix and that's 12 00:00:45,664 --> 00:00:48,464 Speaker 3: literally all I've been seeing everywhere. Have you watched it? 13 00:00:48,824 --> 00:00:50,784 Speaker 1: Yes, I've just started watching it, and it is just 14 00:00:50,824 --> 00:00:53,824 Speaker 1: such a lovely watch and so different to everything else 15 00:00:53,824 --> 00:00:54,624 Speaker 1: that's out at the moment. 16 00:00:54,784 --> 00:00:57,864 Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. It's called Will and Harper and it's 17 00:00:57,904 --> 00:01:00,824 Speaker 3: about Will finding out that his best friend and fellow 18 00:01:00,904 --> 00:01:04,264 Speaker 3: SNL coworker of thirty years is coming out as a 19 00:01:04,304 --> 00:01:07,864 Speaker 3: trans woman. So they decide to embark on this twenty 20 00:01:07,904 --> 00:01:10,624 Speaker 3: seven day road trip across the US to kind of 21 00:01:10,944 --> 00:01:13,824 Speaker 3: not just explore the US, but also explore this new 22 00:01:13,864 --> 00:01:17,184 Speaker 3: stage of their friendship. Yeah, they're both learning about each 23 00:01:17,224 --> 00:01:20,464 Speaker 3: other so much. It still has comedic elements. I read 24 00:01:20,504 --> 00:01:23,144 Speaker 3: somewhere how they were going to have scripted comedy in it, 25 00:01:23,224 --> 00:01:25,864 Speaker 3: but because they're both comedians, so they just decided to 26 00:01:25,944 --> 00:01:26,784 Speaker 3: just let it flow. 27 00:01:27,024 --> 00:01:29,624 Speaker 1: Their dynamic is the best part about this. I don't 28 00:01:29,624 --> 00:01:32,184 Speaker 1: think there's anything that really can trump from a comedy 29 00:01:32,264 --> 00:01:35,784 Speaker 1: or an entertainment standpoint. Two best friends when they're just 30 00:01:35,904 --> 00:01:37,544 Speaker 1: really in the vibe, you know how like when you're 31 00:01:37,544 --> 00:01:39,904 Speaker 1: with your best friends and you just get into that 32 00:01:39,944 --> 00:01:43,024 Speaker 1: mood where everything is funny, everything's a good callback. But 33 00:01:43,064 --> 00:01:45,584 Speaker 1: then take that feeling and put it with two professional 34 00:01:45,584 --> 00:01:49,264 Speaker 1: comedians and how good their dynamic is. And I think 35 00:01:49,304 --> 00:01:51,064 Speaker 1: that's the part I'm enjoying the most. It's like when 36 00:01:51,104 --> 00:01:53,104 Speaker 1: you find like a favorite podcast with two friends that 37 00:01:53,144 --> 00:01:53,904 Speaker 1: are chatty, and. 38 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:54,744 Speaker 3: You're like the third person. 39 00:01:54,944 --> 00:01:57,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know exactly, but you're just happy to 40 00:01:57,384 --> 00:01:57,824 Speaker 1: watch them. 41 00:01:57,944 --> 00:01:58,064 Speaker 3: Hi. 42 00:01:58,144 --> 00:02:01,144 Speaker 2: There, I'm Will Ferrell, one of the greatest actors in 43 00:02:01,184 --> 00:02:04,264 Speaker 2: the world. A long time ago, back when I was 44 00:02:04,264 --> 00:02:06,784 Speaker 2: at Serenai Live, I met a guide was hired as 45 00:02:06,784 --> 00:02:09,744 Speaker 2: a writer the same week I was hired. He wrote 46 00:02:09,784 --> 00:02:12,464 Speaker 2: a bunch of sketches for me and eventually became the 47 00:02:12,464 --> 00:02:16,024 Speaker 2: head writer of SNL and over the years he became 48 00:02:16,104 --> 00:02:18,864 Speaker 2: one of my closest friends. And then one day I 49 00:02:18,944 --> 00:02:23,224 Speaker 2: got this email, Hey, Will, something I need you to know. 50 00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:29,624 Speaker 2: I'll be transitioning to live as a woman. I don't 51 00:02:29,704 --> 00:02:33,184 Speaker 2: doubt that Will is my friend, but I'm not Andrew 52 00:02:33,264 --> 00:02:38,104 Speaker 2: Steele anymore. It was just WHOA. 53 00:02:38,264 --> 00:02:40,864 Speaker 3: I love this country so much, I just don't know 54 00:02:40,904 --> 00:02:42,144 Speaker 3: if it loves me back right. 55 00:02:42,024 --> 00:02:44,504 Speaker 2: Now, Harper, would you want to do a road trip 56 00:02:44,824 --> 00:02:47,984 Speaker 2: as this new version of yourself and at the same 57 00:02:48,024 --> 00:02:51,224 Speaker 2: time figure out what this all means us? 58 00:02:52,184 --> 00:02:55,224 Speaker 3: Harper Steel actually came out to her friends during the 59 00:02:55,264 --> 00:02:58,504 Speaker 3: pandemic in twenty twenty one, so she was saying to 60 00:02:58,584 --> 00:03:01,424 Speaker 3: Will and the other mutual friends, I should have made 61 00:03:01,464 --> 00:03:04,504 Speaker 3: the decision forty years ago, but I wouldn't have had you, guys, 62 00:03:04,584 --> 00:03:06,944 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have gotten hired at Saturday Night Live. I 63 00:03:06,984 --> 00:03:10,344 Speaker 3: would have had a completely different Live. And it's just 64 00:03:10,344 --> 00:03:13,704 Speaker 3: it's so interesting that she had to wait forty years 65 00:03:13,704 --> 00:03:15,944 Speaker 3: to feel like that now I can finally do it. 66 00:03:16,064 --> 00:03:18,904 Speaker 3: And they do explore that in the documentary as well. 67 00:03:19,024 --> 00:03:21,024 Speaker 3: I really encourage everyone to watch it and then, like 68 00:03:21,064 --> 00:03:23,184 Speaker 3: you have to always the rules are message us and 69 00:03:23,184 --> 00:03:23,864 Speaker 3: tell us what you think. 70 00:03:23,944 --> 00:03:28,024 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I love a little midweek TV recommendations. I 71 00:03:28,064 --> 00:03:29,184 Speaker 1: know there's so much good. 72 00:03:28,984 --> 00:03:30,984 Speaker 3: But she like, do a week and watch. That's like 73 00:03:31,424 --> 00:03:32,704 Speaker 3: eight things we recommend. 74 00:03:33,064 --> 00:03:34,904 Speaker 1: I'll take them onto advisement and I'll come back to 75 00:03:34,944 --> 00:03:39,224 Speaker 1: you on that one. Well, a sad but important bit 76 00:03:39,264 --> 00:03:41,264 Speaker 1: of news this week, and that is the fact that 77 00:03:41,384 --> 00:03:44,624 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum and Jenna Dewan have divorced after well, they 78 00:03:44,624 --> 00:03:47,664 Speaker 1: were together for almost nine years. So like my whole 79 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:49,704 Speaker 1: adult life I think has been about them being a 80 00:03:49,704 --> 00:03:53,144 Speaker 1: couple and then they're divorce took nearly six years because 81 00:03:53,144 --> 00:03:55,304 Speaker 1: of a lot of financial back and forth that we 82 00:03:55,384 --> 00:03:56,024 Speaker 1: will get into. 83 00:03:56,224 --> 00:03:58,504 Speaker 3: It's been in like three relationships since then. 84 00:03:58,824 --> 00:04:00,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a little bit he's had and she's 85 00:04:00,624 --> 00:04:02,744 Speaker 1: with someone else now and has children with him. 86 00:04:02,744 --> 00:04:04,464 Speaker 3: But you know, that's all it worked out. 87 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:06,544 Speaker 1: So if you're to cross this, I feel like you 88 00:04:06,624 --> 00:04:08,144 Speaker 1: and I like the right age group to be like 89 00:04:08,184 --> 00:04:09,984 Speaker 1: quite obsessed with these two, right, it's weird. 90 00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:13,104 Speaker 3: Well, I've known him from like she's a man days 91 00:04:13,584 --> 00:04:17,544 Speaker 3: and then nothing and then now suddenly again. Okay, there's 92 00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:20,864 Speaker 3: quite a few What your whole life adult life has 93 00:04:20,904 --> 00:04:24,104 Speaker 3: been them being together. Mine has been them being separated. 94 00:04:24,344 --> 00:04:26,344 Speaker 1: No, yes, because when they got together it was from 95 00:04:26,424 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 1: Step Up, which was you've never seen Step Up? 96 00:04:30,224 --> 00:04:33,184 Speaker 3: No, oh my, I gets the egg when he danced. No, no, 97 00:04:33,264 --> 00:04:34,224 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have. Miss. 98 00:04:34,664 --> 00:04:36,864 Speaker 1: I actually think his dancing in this is better than 99 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:38,904 Speaker 1: it is a magic Mike, that's for sure, because. 100 00:04:38,704 --> 00:04:42,864 Speaker 3: I believe he's a professional dancer. 101 00:04:42,984 --> 00:04:44,864 Speaker 1: That's a really good dance. This is his first big 102 00:04:44,904 --> 00:04:46,904 Speaker 1: movie role. So it came out in two thousand and six, 103 00:04:47,304 --> 00:04:49,624 Speaker 1: and it was such a big deal when they got 104 00:04:49,624 --> 00:04:51,064 Speaker 1: together at the time. I kind of even tell you 105 00:04:51,064 --> 00:04:53,824 Speaker 1: because the story is and this is far fetched, but 106 00:04:53,824 --> 00:04:55,664 Speaker 1: I love in two thousand and six, these movies would 107 00:04:55,704 --> 00:04:58,704 Speaker 1: come out as like big studio releases at the cinema 108 00:04:58,704 --> 00:05:00,224 Speaker 1: and you go watch it and be like, yeah, this 109 00:05:00,224 --> 00:05:03,424 Speaker 1: could happen. So he is like a kid from like 110 00:05:03,464 --> 00:05:06,344 Speaker 1: the wrong side of the Tracks that he was also 111 00:05:06,464 --> 00:05:07,424 Speaker 1: that in Coach Kater. 112 00:05:07,744 --> 00:05:08,904 Speaker 3: Yeah that's his vibe. 113 00:05:09,064 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 1: And he vandalized as a performing arts school and as punishment. Yeah, 114 00:05:13,864 --> 00:05:15,344 Speaker 1: he's a bad boy with a harder gold and he 115 00:05:15,384 --> 00:05:17,264 Speaker 1: can dance like the perfect just setup. 116 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:20,344 Speaker 3: It sounds a lot like Corbyn Blue in that Disney 117 00:05:20,344 --> 00:05:21,184 Speaker 3: movie with the skipping. 118 00:05:21,384 --> 00:05:23,144 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't say, I've seen that it missed that 119 00:05:23,304 --> 00:05:28,944 Speaker 1: theatrical release. Don't sell you the name. Step up, he's 120 00:05:28,984 --> 00:05:30,584 Speaker 1: telling you about it yet. And then he gets like 121 00:05:30,624 --> 00:05:33,104 Speaker 1: his punishment for vandalizing the school is to be a 122 00:05:33,184 --> 00:05:37,504 Speaker 1: janita there. No, no, no, that would be better though, No, 123 00:05:37,584 --> 00:05:41,184 Speaker 1: it is to be a janitor there. Yeah, exactly exactly. 124 00:05:41,224 --> 00:05:44,304 Speaker 1: This is like the sequel to Goodwill Hunting. Not enough 125 00:05:44,304 --> 00:05:47,184 Speaker 1: people know that about this movie. And that's where he 126 00:05:47,224 --> 00:05:49,744 Speaker 1: meets Jenna Dewan's character. And she's like the lead dancer 127 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:52,384 Speaker 1: at the school and the nour like the best dancer 128 00:05:52,424 --> 00:05:54,384 Speaker 1: and comes from like better family, less kind of stuff. 129 00:05:54,624 --> 00:05:56,504 Speaker 1: And then she has to put together this showcase at 130 00:05:56,544 --> 00:05:58,184 Speaker 1: the end so she can get into a dance school 131 00:05:58,384 --> 00:06:00,584 Speaker 1: and then she ends up because he's a really good dancer, 132 00:06:00,944 --> 00:06:03,784 Speaker 1: bringing him in to perform with her. And then they 133 00:06:03,824 --> 00:06:05,544 Speaker 1: fall in love and at the same time they fell 134 00:06:05,584 --> 00:06:07,104 Speaker 1: in love in real life, and so it was a 135 00:06:07,184 --> 00:06:10,544 Speaker 1: huge deal. Emily, So how old would they have been, 136 00:06:10,744 --> 00:06:11,544 Speaker 1: like in their twenties? 137 00:06:11,824 --> 00:06:14,144 Speaker 3: WHOA? So they were together like straight from there for 138 00:06:14,224 --> 00:06:14,744 Speaker 3: nine years. 139 00:06:14,904 --> 00:06:17,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were together from there and then they 140 00:06:17,704 --> 00:06:19,824 Speaker 1: got married in two thousand and nine, like big over 141 00:06:19,864 --> 00:06:22,984 Speaker 1: the top celebrity wedding and they had their daughter, Everly 142 00:06:23,024 --> 00:06:25,944 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. There's these really iconic images of them 143 00:06:25,984 --> 00:06:29,344 Speaker 1: walking the red carpet the Oscars if you please, with 144 00:06:29,384 --> 00:06:30,984 Speaker 1: her baby bump, and there was just one of those 145 00:06:31,024 --> 00:06:33,744 Speaker 1: couples where like a duck shepend and Kristen Bella is 146 00:06:33,744 --> 00:06:36,464 Speaker 1: now where everyone's like very invested in them as a 147 00:06:36,504 --> 00:06:40,144 Speaker 1: couple and like they do joint interviews together and talk 148 00:06:40,184 --> 00:06:42,384 Speaker 1: a lot about their lives and so their brand was 149 00:06:42,464 --> 00:06:44,624 Speaker 1: very much kind of like Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively now, 150 00:06:44,664 --> 00:06:47,344 Speaker 1: like their brand is like as a couple. So that's 151 00:06:47,344 --> 00:06:49,864 Speaker 1: why it was a very big deal in twenty eighteen 152 00:06:50,264 --> 00:06:53,184 Speaker 1: when their separation was announced, and then Jenna was the 153 00:06:53,184 --> 00:06:55,704 Speaker 1: one who filed the divorce that year, so that was 154 00:06:55,744 --> 00:06:57,824 Speaker 1: a big deal. But then it was the huge back 155 00:06:57,864 --> 00:07:01,264 Speaker 1: and forth between their divorce and all the stuff that 156 00:07:01,304 --> 00:07:03,784 Speaker 1: came out from the court case that was quite headline making. 157 00:07:03,784 --> 00:07:06,904 Speaker 3: It's always the court case. It's always the courtcase. So okay, 158 00:07:07,024 --> 00:07:08,864 Speaker 3: what did the papers say. 159 00:07:08,664 --> 00:07:11,744 Speaker 1: The papers and court papers papers saying yes, well, of 160 00:07:11,784 --> 00:07:14,664 Speaker 1: course they all made public after going back and forth 161 00:07:14,704 --> 00:07:16,224 Speaker 1: with their legal stuff for a while. But they were 162 00:07:16,264 --> 00:07:19,824 Speaker 1: both declared legally single in twenty nineteen, which was good 163 00:07:19,864 --> 00:07:23,784 Speaker 1: because that was when Jennadwan was expecting a child with 164 00:07:23,824 --> 00:07:25,544 Speaker 1: her then boyfriend Steve Cazzi. 165 00:07:26,304 --> 00:07:29,184 Speaker 3: Fact, you had to say legally single. No, that's a thing. 166 00:07:29,264 --> 00:07:30,104 Speaker 3: It's so funny. 167 00:07:30,144 --> 00:07:33,664 Speaker 1: So you can be declared legally single before the divorce 168 00:07:33,744 --> 00:07:36,424 Speaker 1: is finalized. Whoa, It just means that you're not married 169 00:07:36,424 --> 00:07:38,384 Speaker 1: to that personing more. But you haven't been a movie 170 00:07:38,424 --> 00:07:39,064 Speaker 1: with that title. 171 00:07:39,144 --> 00:07:42,264 Speaker 3: That's such a good legally legally. Witherspoon's on it. 172 00:07:42,384 --> 00:07:44,104 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian I think had to do this as well 173 00:07:44,144 --> 00:07:46,424 Speaker 1: because she was still technically I think married to Chris 174 00:07:46,504 --> 00:07:50,304 Speaker 1: Humphries when she and Kanye West were expecting Northwest, and 175 00:07:50,344 --> 00:07:52,064 Speaker 1: so I think a lot of the time it's like 176 00:07:52,344 --> 00:07:56,704 Speaker 1: you're still working out the legalities around a custody if 177 00:07:56,744 --> 00:07:59,664 Speaker 1: you have kids, which they did, or around business or money. 178 00:07:59,864 --> 00:08:01,824 Speaker 1: But you can put the business stuff aside and be 179 00:08:01,864 --> 00:08:04,184 Speaker 1: declared legally single. Just if you want to go and 180 00:08:04,224 --> 00:08:05,784 Speaker 1: have another relationship, Could you be. 181 00:08:05,824 --> 00:08:08,424 Speaker 3: Legally single even if you weren't separate, Like am I 182 00:08:08,504 --> 00:08:09,144 Speaker 3: legally single? 183 00:08:09,264 --> 00:08:12,264 Speaker 1: I'd say you are very legally single, as am I 184 00:08:12,384 --> 00:08:14,904 Speaker 1: legally single? I don't want this to become a legal 185 00:08:14,944 --> 00:08:17,384 Speaker 1: podcast just because it's like it's like when I give 186 00:08:17,384 --> 00:08:19,464 Speaker 1: out medical advice because I've watched Grease Anatomy, Like I'm 187 00:08:19,544 --> 00:08:22,264 Speaker 1: wildly underqualified to have this conversation with way. 188 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:24,144 Speaker 3: We need to wait for Kim Kardashians new movie. 189 00:08:24,264 --> 00:08:26,664 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Please do consult a legal team if you're 190 00:08:26,664 --> 00:08:29,024 Speaker 1: getting a divorce, don't listen to this podcast. So she 191 00:08:29,144 --> 00:08:32,424 Speaker 1: was declared legally single, and then she and her boyfriend 192 00:08:32,744 --> 00:08:35,584 Speaker 1: had their son later that year, and so then there 193 00:08:35,624 --> 00:08:38,024 Speaker 1: was quite a bit of back and forth between Jenna 194 00:08:38,104 --> 00:08:40,784 Speaker 1: and Channing and it was all really hooked on the 195 00:08:40,824 --> 00:08:42,264 Speaker 1: Magic Mike franchise. 196 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:45,224 Speaker 3: If you can believe it, what do you mean? Okay, 197 00:08:45,264 --> 00:08:47,384 Speaker 3: So this is where it gets a little bit murky. 198 00:08:47,504 --> 00:08:49,664 Speaker 3: So Magic Mike takes down so many people. 199 00:08:49,704 --> 00:08:51,864 Speaker 1: Magic Mike has hurt more people around the world than 200 00:08:51,904 --> 00:08:54,144 Speaker 1: we like to say, not just because you had a 201 00:08:54,224 --> 00:08:57,584 Speaker 1: meltdown in the movie. I quite like the Magic Mic franchise, 202 00:08:57,624 --> 00:09:01,264 Speaker 1: and controversially, I think they got better as they went along. 203 00:09:01,744 --> 00:09:05,544 Speaker 3: I agree, I actually agree, but nothing tops the live show. 204 00:09:05,624 --> 00:09:07,824 Speaker 1: The live show is definitely the best. So if you're 205 00:09:07,824 --> 00:09:10,304 Speaker 1: not to date with the Magic Mike universe. There are 206 00:09:10,544 --> 00:09:14,064 Speaker 1: we'reing this episode right now. There are three movies and 207 00:09:14,384 --> 00:09:17,744 Speaker 1: the live show, and Channing Tatum is at the very 208 00:09:17,824 --> 00:09:20,504 Speaker 1: center of this entire franchise. I think he had a 209 00:09:20,544 --> 00:09:23,544 Speaker 1: legal battle with the original Magic Mike because Channing Tatum 210 00:09:23,584 --> 00:09:26,544 Speaker 1: did work as a stripper, became an actor. No, but 211 00:09:26,624 --> 00:09:29,304 Speaker 1: his name was the Magic Mike. He worked with someone called. 212 00:09:29,184 --> 00:09:31,664 Speaker 3: He stole some other stripper's name. Well, I don't think 213 00:09:32,264 --> 00:09:35,624 Speaker 3: you know what fair. You can't just steal another stripper's name. 214 00:09:35,664 --> 00:09:36,424 Speaker 3: That's our identity. 215 00:09:36,584 --> 00:09:38,744 Speaker 1: I yes, I'm not across the legalities of this. Again, 216 00:09:38,904 --> 00:09:41,464 Speaker 1: Please don't come to this podcast for legal advice. From 217 00:09:41,464 --> 00:09:43,024 Speaker 1: what I remember is it was kind of based on 218 00:09:43,104 --> 00:09:46,264 Speaker 1: his story of being a stripper, but also his friend's stories. 219 00:09:46,304 --> 00:09:48,504 Speaker 1: But also he did work with someone I think who 220 00:09:48,584 --> 00:09:50,984 Speaker 1: went by the stage name of Magic Mike at some stage. 221 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:53,504 Speaker 3: So not only just stole the name, but he knew Again, 222 00:09:53,584 --> 00:09:54,664 Speaker 3: we're being. 223 00:09:54,544 --> 00:09:57,544 Speaker 1: Really liberal with the use of stole here, So I 224 00:09:57,544 --> 00:09:59,744 Speaker 1: don't think that quite happened the way you're saying it. 225 00:10:00,264 --> 00:10:02,944 Speaker 1: So what happened after they said it's been Magnificent Mike, 226 00:10:05,584 --> 00:10:06,664 Speaker 1: it's got to be Magic Mike? 227 00:10:06,784 --> 00:10:08,584 Speaker 3: Okay? Videocre Mike. 228 00:10:08,904 --> 00:10:10,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also Channing Tatum was the one who took 229 00:10:11,064 --> 00:10:12,864 Speaker 1: that idea to Sony and got it made and all 230 00:10:12,864 --> 00:10:15,384 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. But what Jenna Dewan was saying 231 00:10:15,784 --> 00:10:19,304 Speaker 1: in her legal papers over this, and what her legal 232 00:10:19,344 --> 00:10:22,784 Speaker 1: team was saying, is that it had been almost like 233 00:10:22,984 --> 00:10:25,704 Speaker 1: joint intellectual property because the whole time that he was 234 00:10:26,064 --> 00:10:29,104 Speaker 1: researching for the movie and putting it together and going 235 00:10:29,144 --> 00:10:30,944 Speaker 1: through all that takes years and years and years for 236 00:10:30,984 --> 00:10:33,184 Speaker 1: a movie to be made. Is that they were married, 237 00:10:33,224 --> 00:10:35,144 Speaker 1: and so she was involved in that. But where it 238 00:10:35,184 --> 00:10:37,904 Speaker 1: gets even murkier than that is that her legal team 239 00:10:38,264 --> 00:10:42,944 Speaker 1: has alleged that Channing Tatum transferred a huge portion of 240 00:10:42,984 --> 00:10:46,864 Speaker 1: the Magic Mike funds from their joint account into a 241 00:10:46,904 --> 00:10:50,864 Speaker 1: third party account without her knowledge. So she's saying, we 242 00:10:50,864 --> 00:10:53,104 Speaker 1: were married, all our money was together, from all the 243 00:10:53,144 --> 00:10:55,304 Speaker 1: movies they'd made, all the work they'd done, all our 244 00:10:55,344 --> 00:10:57,944 Speaker 1: money was together. You use that money to make Magic Mike. 245 00:10:58,264 --> 00:11:01,304 Speaker 1: And then when Magic Mike became successful, this is what 246 00:11:01,344 --> 00:11:04,224 Speaker 1: she said, don't come for me Channing tATu's lawyers at 247 00:11:04,224 --> 00:11:06,904 Speaker 1: this stage of the game. Then you transferred that money 248 00:11:06,944 --> 00:11:10,664 Speaker 1: into an account I can't access without my consent. And 249 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:13,184 Speaker 1: now the money is gone and that's what she's trying 250 00:11:13,264 --> 00:11:16,504 Speaker 1: to recover. So she's trying to recover for six years. 251 00:11:16,584 --> 00:11:19,024 Speaker 3: So it's not only just the money that he's made, 252 00:11:19,104 --> 00:11:21,744 Speaker 3: but it's the money that they both made together. So 253 00:11:21,744 --> 00:11:24,344 Speaker 3: she's saying that they both like invested in Magic Mike, 254 00:11:24,504 --> 00:11:26,784 Speaker 3: like both of their money. Yes, and then when they 255 00:11:26,784 --> 00:11:28,384 Speaker 3: got the return of that money, he. 256 00:11:28,704 --> 00:11:30,224 Speaker 1: Took it, is what she's saying. 257 00:11:30,304 --> 00:11:32,144 Speaker 3: Yes, so he's and that's not cool. 258 00:11:32,224 --> 00:11:33,544 Speaker 1: You've also got to think that a lot of this 259 00:11:33,584 --> 00:11:36,304 Speaker 1: stuff that's been quoted is being quoted as them saying 260 00:11:36,304 --> 00:11:38,304 Speaker 1: it about each other. Yeah, and it's all statements from 261 00:11:38,304 --> 00:11:40,584 Speaker 1: their lawyers, whether or not they said it behind the scenes. 262 00:11:40,864 --> 00:11:44,344 Speaker 1: But Channing's lawyer said that Jenna was trying every trick 263 00:11:44,344 --> 00:11:46,144 Speaker 1: in the book to try and stall the case from 264 00:11:46,184 --> 00:11:48,864 Speaker 1: going to trial. And so then her legal team said 265 00:11:48,944 --> 00:11:51,624 Speaker 1: that he was denying Jenna a fair and equal share 266 00:11:51,664 --> 00:11:53,864 Speaker 1: of the community estate. So this has been going on 267 00:11:53,944 --> 00:11:54,344 Speaker 1: for a while. 268 00:11:56,504 --> 00:12:00,144 Speaker 3: We've talked about like celebrity divorces in length and how 269 00:12:00,184 --> 00:12:02,664 Speaker 3: like some stuff has to be public, and they know 270 00:12:02,744 --> 00:12:04,504 Speaker 3: it has to be public, so they're very careful with 271 00:12:04,544 --> 00:12:09,184 Speaker 3: that wording. Surely Channing or Jenna didn't want any of 272 00:12:09,224 --> 00:12:12,064 Speaker 3: this to be public. I'm confused on how hard they're 273 00:12:12,104 --> 00:12:12,824 Speaker 3: going in on it. 274 00:12:13,224 --> 00:12:14,944 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure they'd wanted to be in public. But 275 00:12:14,944 --> 00:12:18,304 Speaker 1: that's the thing, especially with the California court system, is 276 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:20,584 Speaker 1: that these documents can That's why we've seen so many 277 00:12:20,624 --> 00:12:23,264 Speaker 1: trials like even like the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard 278 00:12:23,344 --> 00:12:25,384 Speaker 1: legal case, and there's so many legal cases like this 279 00:12:25,664 --> 00:12:27,944 Speaker 1: where it can be made public out of public interest, 280 00:12:28,064 --> 00:12:31,624 Speaker 1: or you can request the legal papers to be made public. 281 00:12:31,664 --> 00:12:34,464 Speaker 1: So there's lots of ways around it. Obviously can't see everything, 282 00:12:34,504 --> 00:12:37,384 Speaker 1: and anything to do with the custody agreement over their daughter, 283 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:40,064 Speaker 1: Everly is obviously sealed, but because this is of a 284 00:12:40,144 --> 00:12:43,304 Speaker 1: business nature, it can go out into the public eye also. 285 00:12:43,424 --> 00:12:45,304 Speaker 1: I mean also there's so many times when like someone 286 00:12:45,384 --> 00:12:48,224 Speaker 1: like TMZ will just find the court documents because they 287 00:12:48,224 --> 00:12:50,224 Speaker 1: have people on the inside and make them public. But 288 00:12:50,264 --> 00:12:53,104 Speaker 1: most of the time you can access them, and I 289 00:12:53,144 --> 00:12:55,024 Speaker 1: think just because of who these people are and because 290 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,304 Speaker 1: they had this big Hollywood love story for so long. 291 00:12:57,824 --> 00:13:00,784 Speaker 1: In these court papers, it's very kind of legal business information. 292 00:13:00,904 --> 00:13:03,304 Speaker 1: But every so often there are like you know, little 293 00:13:03,344 --> 00:13:06,104 Speaker 1: personal jabs from the lawyers, and they're the things that 294 00:13:06,144 --> 00:13:09,704 Speaker 1: have always been making headlines. Like there's one part where 295 00:13:09,784 --> 00:13:11,864 Speaker 1: it doesn't say Channing Tatum said this, but it says 296 00:13:11,864 --> 00:13:14,904 Speaker 1: that his legal team says on his behalf that Jenna's 297 00:13:14,944 --> 00:13:17,584 Speaker 1: filing was a frivolous filing that has no basis in 298 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:20,424 Speaker 1: law or fact, and it's a transparent attempt to divert 299 00:13:20,464 --> 00:13:23,504 Speaker 1: the court's attention from her wilful violation of her court 300 00:13:23,624 --> 00:13:28,704 Speaker 1: ordered deposition and discovery deadlines. And then Channing Tatum's lawyers 301 00:13:28,744 --> 00:13:30,704 Speaker 1: said that the actress should be sanctioned to the sum 302 00:13:30,744 --> 00:13:31,984 Speaker 1: of twenty thousand dollars. 303 00:13:33,224 --> 00:13:35,984 Speaker 3: Wait, twenty thousand dollars doesn't sound like a lot from them. 304 00:13:36,224 --> 00:13:38,104 Speaker 1: No, I think that was just like a different part. 305 00:13:38,144 --> 00:13:41,104 Speaker 1: It was not the entire fund of what was happening. 306 00:13:41,264 --> 00:13:43,224 Speaker 1: So yes, basically they were on for years, and I 307 00:13:43,264 --> 00:13:45,504 Speaker 1: think at one point that he was trying to say 308 00:13:45,544 --> 00:13:48,104 Speaker 1: that the company who was handling the case was on 309 00:13:48,144 --> 00:13:51,024 Speaker 1: her side, so they needed to be removed. And this 310 00:13:51,104 --> 00:13:52,824 Speaker 1: has been going back and forth for a long time, 311 00:13:52,904 --> 00:13:55,824 Speaker 1: and that's why it's so interesting that it got settled 312 00:13:55,944 --> 00:13:58,824 Speaker 1: this week. And what's super interesting from this divorce filing 313 00:13:59,144 --> 00:14:01,584 Speaker 1: is that in the end, even though when they first filed, 314 00:14:01,824 --> 00:14:04,144 Speaker 1: I believe it was Jenna who asked for spousal support 315 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:06,464 Speaker 1: from Channing, which I think was kind of fair given 316 00:14:06,504 --> 00:14:07,984 Speaker 1: that she had been off work for a while and 317 00:14:08,024 --> 00:14:11,064 Speaker 1: he was the main breadwinner at the time. But going forward, 318 00:14:11,064 --> 00:14:13,824 Speaker 1: they both wave spousal support and that's thoughts. So they 319 00:14:13,864 --> 00:14:16,704 Speaker 1: could avoid a trial that was meant to be coming 320 00:14:16,784 --> 00:14:19,304 Speaker 1: up in December, and the trial is where every single 321 00:14:19,304 --> 00:14:20,744 Speaker 1: thing would have come out, because that would have. 322 00:14:21,024 --> 00:14:23,024 Speaker 3: That would have been the Johnny Depp amber heard. 323 00:14:23,744 --> 00:14:26,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean people exactly. People could have been privy 324 00:14:26,304 --> 00:14:28,984 Speaker 1: to all the information. They'd both been called as witnesses, 325 00:14:29,104 --> 00:14:31,104 Speaker 1: her new partner been called as witnesses. 326 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:31,864 Speaker 3: They got kids. 327 00:14:31,984 --> 00:14:34,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, his ex girlfriend, Jesse j could have been up there. 328 00:14:34,384 --> 00:14:36,504 Speaker 1: You know, anyone who was involved in this situation, zo 329 00:14:36,584 --> 00:14:41,104 Speaker 1: we cry, oh my god, proos could have been pulled 330 00:14:41,104 --> 00:14:43,304 Speaker 1: into it. So I think that's probably why they decided 331 00:14:43,304 --> 00:14:45,664 Speaker 1: now to work it out in private. So while it's 332 00:14:45,784 --> 00:14:48,264 Speaker 1: very nice that that's over and hopefully everyone got they wanted, 333 00:14:48,624 --> 00:14:51,184 Speaker 1: it was something that she posts on her Instagram. 334 00:14:50,744 --> 00:14:53,624 Speaker 3: That's what I mean, Like, it's so no, but don't. 335 00:14:53,424 --> 00:14:55,784 Speaker 1: When you hear the story the full story behind that. 336 00:14:55,824 --> 00:14:57,664 Speaker 1: Does her Instagram post not make more sense? 337 00:14:58,144 --> 00:15:01,984 Speaker 3: Her Instagram post makes more sense, but to the point 338 00:15:02,024 --> 00:15:04,704 Speaker 3: where I'm like, why would she post that? So let's 339 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:06,464 Speaker 3: talk about the Instagram say what it is. Yeah, So 340 00:15:06,744 --> 00:15:12,584 Speaker 3: she posted on her Instagram stories of photo of Nicole Kidman, 341 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:14,144 Speaker 3: and you know exactly what. 342 00:15:14,224 --> 00:15:17,104 Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking It's that photo that's gone. 343 00:15:16,904 --> 00:15:18,824 Speaker 3: Absolutely viral of f and then Cole Kidman from years 344 00:15:18,864 --> 00:15:21,664 Speaker 3: ago when she finally settled her divorce with Tom Cruise, 345 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:25,184 Speaker 3: and she's photographed like it's a paparazzi shot outside of 346 00:15:25,184 --> 00:15:28,704 Speaker 3: her lawyer's office, like literally looking like a devil has 347 00:15:28,824 --> 00:15:31,504 Speaker 3: escaped her soul. Yes, she's like looking into the sun 348 00:15:31,544 --> 00:15:33,824 Speaker 3: and she's like yes, and she's just like in this 349 00:15:34,024 --> 00:15:37,304 Speaker 3: power pose of like thank fuck, this is all over. 350 00:15:37,424 --> 00:15:39,544 Speaker 3: And I think everyone's used that meme at some point 351 00:15:39,584 --> 00:15:41,064 Speaker 3: in their life or has felt that at some point in. 352 00:15:41,064 --> 00:15:43,024 Speaker 1: That exactly it's such an even though obviously it's a 353 00:15:43,024 --> 00:15:46,104 Speaker 1: paparazzi photo, but it has just become synonymous with like 354 00:15:46,184 --> 00:15:49,784 Speaker 1: women regaining their power and like that feeling of relief 355 00:15:49,784 --> 00:15:52,224 Speaker 1: and happiness because she and Tom Cruise had a very 356 00:15:52,264 --> 00:15:54,504 Speaker 1: intense back and forth divorce for a while. It was 357 00:15:54,544 --> 00:15:57,344 Speaker 1: also very public. They also had two young children involved, 358 00:15:57,344 --> 00:15:59,704 Speaker 1: so that was quite messy. And that's thought to be 359 00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:02,464 Speaker 1: the day that they finalized the details and she actually 360 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:04,904 Speaker 1: signed the papers and is then legally single to use 361 00:16:04,944 --> 00:16:07,544 Speaker 1: your leg favorite And she must be so aware that 362 00:16:07,664 --> 00:16:09,824 Speaker 1: there's paparazzi out there because they would have just been 363 00:16:09,904 --> 00:16:13,264 Speaker 1: following so intently, but she doesn't care. Her head is 364 00:16:13,344 --> 00:16:14,384 Speaker 1: thrown back. 365 00:16:15,464 --> 00:16:17,464 Speaker 3: And because like we've talked about Tom Cruise and like 366 00:16:17,504 --> 00:16:22,264 Speaker 3: Scientology and how and Katie Holmes and the like whirlwind 367 00:16:22,304 --> 00:16:25,304 Speaker 3: she had to go through to get away literally physically. Yeah, 368 00:16:25,544 --> 00:16:28,544 Speaker 3: so we can't even imagine what Nicole Kidman did. Her 369 00:16:28,624 --> 00:16:31,264 Speaker 3: kids are still in Scientology and she has talked about 370 00:16:31,304 --> 00:16:34,104 Speaker 3: how she has little contact with them. That photo just 371 00:16:34,144 --> 00:16:36,464 Speaker 3: like encapsulates, Like she didn't need to say anything. The 372 00:16:36,504 --> 00:16:39,104 Speaker 3: photo just has all. So Jenna posted that on her 373 00:16:39,224 --> 00:16:43,384 Speaker 3: Instagram stories when the divorce their divorce was announced, so 374 00:16:43,504 --> 00:16:48,024 Speaker 3: everyone connected the dots. She then posted a carousel on 375 00:16:48,064 --> 00:16:50,824 Speaker 3: her Instagram feed, which is still up, so obviously the 376 00:16:50,864 --> 00:16:52,624 Speaker 3: story was there for just twenty four. 377 00:16:52,424 --> 00:16:55,104 Speaker 1: Hours, and obviously everyone grabbed onto that so quickly because 378 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:59,024 Speaker 1: it has become this shorthand of a woman celebrating independence. 379 00:16:59,064 --> 00:17:00,824 Speaker 1: So as soon as she put that Nicole Kimmen photo 380 00:17:00,864 --> 00:17:03,544 Speaker 1: on her Insta stories, every out grabbed it was writing 381 00:17:03,584 --> 00:17:06,424 Speaker 1: around it, people were reposting it, everywhere went crazy. 382 00:17:06,504 --> 00:17:08,864 Speaker 3: It was I thought it was brilliant. So she posted 383 00:17:08,904 --> 00:17:11,904 Speaker 3: a carousel with the caption thank you Universe, and it's 384 00:17:11,984 --> 00:17:14,344 Speaker 3: like a series of photos of her with her kids, 385 00:17:14,344 --> 00:17:17,544 Speaker 3: with her new partner, like being out, being on zoom 386 00:17:17,544 --> 00:17:22,264 Speaker 3: calls working. The comments are so hectic, and she hasn't 387 00:17:22,304 --> 00:17:25,184 Speaker 3: limited them either, so she's kept this wide open. Some 388 00:17:25,224 --> 00:17:28,344 Speaker 3: of the top comments says, stop pumping out kids if 389 00:17:28,344 --> 00:17:30,264 Speaker 3: you can't afford them and need to go to such 390 00:17:30,264 --> 00:17:32,904 Speaker 3: a length for someone else's earnings. I'm sure he feels 391 00:17:32,944 --> 00:17:35,584 Speaker 3: the same way he dodged a bullet for real, literally 392 00:17:35,744 --> 00:17:38,064 Speaker 3: the one who dragged it all out. You have some 393 00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:40,824 Speaker 3: nerve and no shame at all, Takias shit, but you're 394 00:17:40,864 --> 00:17:42,984 Speaker 3: the reason it took so long. This is why women 395 00:17:43,024 --> 00:17:45,744 Speaker 3: get a bad rap like so like horrible off and 396 00:17:45,784 --> 00:17:48,944 Speaker 3: these are like I'm literally reading the top five comments 397 00:17:48,944 --> 00:17:49,624 Speaker 3: on this post. 398 00:17:49,864 --> 00:17:52,704 Speaker 1: It's always seen that way. The woman's the money hungry one, 399 00:17:52,784 --> 00:17:54,344 Speaker 1: and that she was trying to do something evil. And 400 00:17:54,384 --> 00:17:56,144 Speaker 1: you know what's also the kicker with these is that 401 00:17:56,184 --> 00:17:58,704 Speaker 1: for a while there after the divorce, I think she 402 00:17:58,824 --> 00:18:00,824 Speaker 1: was a bit more of the favorite public figure for 403 00:18:00,864 --> 00:18:03,624 Speaker 1: a while. But as we've said before, Channing Tatum got 404 00:18:03,664 --> 00:18:06,864 Speaker 1: a real public image makeover when he started datings or 405 00:18:06,904 --> 00:18:09,064 Speaker 1: with Cravats, because everyone loves her and she's the epitome 406 00:18:09,104 --> 00:18:12,384 Speaker 1: of cool, and that's really rubbed off on him in 407 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:12,704 Speaker 1: a way. 408 00:18:12,744 --> 00:18:13,664 Speaker 3: Now they're seeing. 409 00:18:13,424 --> 00:18:16,744 Speaker 1: This beloved power couple, whereas even though Jenna posts a 410 00:18:16,784 --> 00:18:19,384 Speaker 1: lot from her home with her kids and her partner, 411 00:18:19,424 --> 00:18:20,944 Speaker 1: and it's also very beloved. 412 00:18:20,984 --> 00:18:22,264 Speaker 3: It just there are a lot. 413 00:18:22,104 --> 00:18:25,944 Speaker 1: More of a smaller fame family than Channing and Zoe 414 00:18:26,104 --> 00:18:28,024 Speaker 1: have become. Again, I know, will we say this was 415 00:18:28,104 --> 00:18:30,384 Speaker 1: just wild? How like literally we have no information about 416 00:18:30,384 --> 00:18:33,664 Speaker 1: these people. How people just like run away with these 417 00:18:33,784 --> 00:18:36,304 Speaker 1: narratives that she's the gold digger and here's the hero, 418 00:18:36,584 --> 00:18:38,584 Speaker 1: whereas it just a few years ago it was completely 419 00:18:38,624 --> 00:18:39,904 Speaker 1: flipped of who they like. 420 00:18:40,104 --> 00:18:43,064 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to the point where these comments like make 421 00:18:43,104 --> 00:18:45,944 Speaker 3: it sound like it's the truth. Because I feel like 422 00:18:46,064 --> 00:18:49,304 Speaker 3: if you didn't like look into the court proceedings like 423 00:18:49,384 --> 00:18:53,144 Speaker 3: we did today, you would just see the Nicole Kinman post. 424 00:18:53,144 --> 00:18:56,704 Speaker 3: You'll see the comments under that carousel, all completely negative. 425 00:18:56,784 --> 00:18:59,384 Speaker 3: No one's saying the other side of the story, so 426 00:18:59,424 --> 00:19:01,504 Speaker 3: you just take that as truth. Right, So any person 427 00:19:01,664 --> 00:19:03,824 Speaker 3: in the public who are looking at instagrams like, oh, 428 00:19:03,824 --> 00:19:05,104 Speaker 3: she's clearly a bad person. 429 00:19:05,264 --> 00:19:08,184 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Well, I'm happy for these two crazy kids 430 00:19:08,224 --> 00:19:12,304 Speaker 1: that their divorce is finally finally settled after all those years. 431 00:19:12,504 --> 00:19:14,624 Speaker 1: I guess we could all just watch Step Up in celebration, 432 00:19:14,744 --> 00:19:15,984 Speaker 1: and I mean you need to watch it for the 433 00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:16,424 Speaker 1: first time. 434 00:19:16,504 --> 00:19:17,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think you would love it. 435 00:19:17,904 --> 00:19:20,264 Speaker 1: It has not as good as Center Stage an end 436 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:22,264 Speaker 1: dance scene, but a very good end scene. 437 00:19:22,344 --> 00:19:23,664 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. 438 00:19:23,984 --> 00:19:26,264 Speaker 1: You haven't seen Center Sad that I have such work 439 00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:29,544 Speaker 1: to do with you my dancing. Everyone, you'll like this one. 440 00:19:29,584 --> 00:19:31,704 Speaker 1: Watch Step Up and just you know, except I think 441 00:19:31,744 --> 00:19:34,504 Speaker 1: is better days. Okay, thank you so much for listening 442 00:19:34,504 --> 00:19:36,784 Speaker 1: to this spill today. You've got this far, so we're 443 00:19:36,784 --> 00:19:40,024 Speaker 1: going to tell you exactly what we're doing on Friday's episode. 444 00:19:40,064 --> 00:19:43,424 Speaker 1: A little sneak peek for our hardcore listeners. You probably 445 00:19:43,424 --> 00:19:46,184 Speaker 1: predicted this because we've actually gotten heaps of DMS for 446 00:19:46,344 --> 00:19:49,104 Speaker 1: us to please do this episode, and we couldn't agree more. 447 00:19:49,304 --> 00:19:52,704 Speaker 1: On Friday, we are doing a brutally honest review on 448 00:19:52,984 --> 00:19:56,584 Speaker 1: the new TV show on Netflix, Nobody Wants This, starring 449 00:19:56,704 --> 00:20:00,824 Speaker 1: Kristen Bell and Adam Brody. We have so many thoughts, like, 450 00:20:01,224 --> 00:20:03,504 Speaker 1: honestly think it should be like an hour long episode. 451 00:20:03,584 --> 00:20:08,624 Speaker 3: I think my producer is she gonna send us a message? 452 00:20:08,824 --> 00:20:10,424 Speaker 3: We are going to be talking about some of the 453 00:20:10,504 --> 00:20:12,624 Speaker 3: spoilers in this broadly honest review like we do with 454 00:20:12,664 --> 00:20:14,824 Speaker 3: all of them. So you've got two days to finish 455 00:20:14,824 --> 00:20:18,064 Speaker 3: a series. Go right now. The Spill is produced by 456 00:20:18,144 --> 00:20:20,904 Speaker 3: Kimberly Bradish. You would sound production by Scott Stronik. We 457 00:20:20,944 --> 00:20:22,824 Speaker 3: will be back here in your podcast speed at three 458 00:20:22,904 --> 00:20:23,784 Speaker 3: pm tomorrow. 459 00:20:23,864 --> 00:20:33,984 Speaker 1: Bye bye,