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Speaker 1: Guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you, beauty. This

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Speaker 1: is the daily podcast for your Face. I'm killing Karen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not Lee Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I'm Aaron.

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Speaker 1: You've got a nice face and you've got brown hair.

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Speaker 1: But that's about where the similarities end.

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Speaker 2: I am Stephani. For a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes I do, because I'm a listener. Have we got

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Speaker 2: a little bit of Q and a action?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything.

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Speaker 2: You ask many questions.

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Speaker 2: In the show notes, today we're going to be helping

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Speaker 2: But first, Kel we're going to be talking about hair treatment. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you are staying me. So Sarah has asked, Hi, girls,

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Speaker 2: what is the best leave in hair treatment to use?

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Speaker 3: Alongside K eighteen.

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Speaker 1: The first lesson in sending our queries through to you beauty,

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Speaker 1: send as much information as possible. Now I read that

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Speaker 1: question and I'm like, Sarah, what is your hair type?

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Speaker 1: What is your hair color? Do you bleach it? Do

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Speaker 2: I suppose all helpful little nuggets that we can use.

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Speaker 1: However, I can really relate to just a good hair

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Speaker 1: treatment at the moment because my hair is absolutely fried.

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Speaker 1: I've been told by two separate hairdressers recently to put

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Speaker 3: There are so many new launches.

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Speaker 1: And so many of them are outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've never been a hair treatment girl,

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Speaker 2: and I've just started going ham.

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Speaker 1: Is that because you've got good hair, like it's very healthy,

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Speaker 3: But the leave in ones are so good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to give you a couple of my recommendations.

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Speaker 2: The treatments that I've been loving. So the one I'm

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Speaker 2: And then I used it again and use the correct hand.

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Speaker 1: chatting about vitamin C alternatives for our queens who don't

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Speaker 1: Kendall has usked. Hi, ladies, I've tried so many different

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Speaker 2: doctor Catherine Ahma and she was talking about this. She

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Speaker 2: told us that it's one of the biggest misconceptions that

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Speaker 2: And doctor Arma actually told me, I spend so much

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Speaker 2: come in with perioral dermatitis or irritant contact dermatitis just

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I know they probably think that it's

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Speaker 1: a breakout or congestion of the vitamin C, but it's

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to take doctor Catherine Armer's recommendations here

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Speaker 1: Will That sounds very interesting.

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Speaker 2: So she recommended niacinamide, which is vitamin B three, as

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kelly, coming up next, host hags, host hack. I'm

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Speaker 1: You were even trying one involving socks at whatever time

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Speaker 1: What you makeup hacks? All right? Eron, please kick things

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Speaker 1: off because you're talking about peeling nails. Firstly, yuck. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So basically I stopped getting SNS and all different

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Speaker 2: You can use it like once every second day, and

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Speaker 2: I swear all transform your nails.

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Speaker 1: It actually makes so much sense because it would get

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Ah's worked to like remove skin cells and all

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Speaker 1: Look at is this your nails?

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Speaker 3: That's my nails before and after. They look so much better.

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Speaker 1: This is the whole reason why host hack is so amazing,

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Speaker 2: There's nothing better than when a hack actually works. But

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Speaker 3: Ye oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I love that ages in between nail treatments when your

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Speaker 1: Okay, So my one, I want you to actually try

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it wouldn't actually like squirt out.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that was gonna Oh my eyes opened, beautiful?

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Speaker 1: Why was your eyes opened? Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize that she's gonna go straight into

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Speaker 3: I did not think it would be that powerful.

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Speaker 1: Poor, my god, you still look really beautiful now that

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Speaker 3: Okay, kel that was painful.

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Speaker 1: I've also opened myself up. I'm nothing if not a

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I am coming for you. Seriously, that

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Speaker 1: Into I do apologize. I really didn't think that you'd

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Speaker 1: it to you as a beautiful gentle miss, beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Gentle fresh miss. Now I can't say for half the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, we're good. We're stinging, but we're good anyway.

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Speaker 1: So my point of that strange little experiment is that

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I got punked by you.

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Speaker 2: That's on my first episode. That's all we've got time

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Speaker 2: for today. But if you want your beauty question answered,

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Speaker 2: jump into the show notes and click the link, and

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Speaker 2: you can send a voice note directly to us and

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Speaker 2: the pod team.

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Speaker 1: And maybe just send a voice note to Erin saying well,

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Speaker 1: good sport you.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't send an email because I can't see anything.

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Speaker 1: Please leave us a five star review. And the producer

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Speaker 1: of You Beauty is Cassie Merrit, with audio production by

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Speaker 1: Lou Hill. And we'll be back in your ears together

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Speaker 1: if she's forgiven me on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Bye.