1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:22,785 Speaker 1: recorded on whoever said orange is a new pink with 4 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:28,025 Speaker 1: seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking, Oh my god, you have. 5 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: To do it. You live for fashion. 6 00:00:31,625 --> 00:00:34,785 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear. The podcast solves 7 00:00:34,785 --> 00:00:38,105 Speaker 1: fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell 8 00:00:38,145 --> 00:00:40,545 Speaker 1: and every week I sit down with an expert who 9 00:00:40,585 --> 00:00:42,385 Speaker 1: helps us work out how to get more out of 10 00:00:42,425 --> 00:00:44,865 Speaker 1: the clothes you already own and tells us exactly what 11 00:00:45,105 --> 00:00:47,705 Speaker 1: is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now, as 12 00:00:47,745 --> 00:00:49,505 Speaker 1: you know, I've been away for a few weeks and 13 00:00:49,585 --> 00:00:51,745 Speaker 1: part of that was a trip to Canada, and I'm 14 00:00:51,745 --> 00:00:53,145 Speaker 1: going to tell you a little bit about it at 15 00:00:53,145 --> 00:00:55,225 Speaker 1: the end of the episode. And that's why the delightful 16 00:00:55,345 --> 00:00:57,945 Speaker 1: Chelsea filled in for me a few weeks ago with Lacinda. 17 00:00:58,585 --> 00:01:00,225 Speaker 1: She's one of the new voices you're going to hear 18 00:01:00,225 --> 00:01:02,505 Speaker 1: a bit more on the podcast. Chelsea is one of 19 00:01:02,545 --> 00:01:04,785 Speaker 1: the entertainment writers here at Mamma Mia and has a 20 00:01:04,865 --> 00:01:08,465 Speaker 1: true passion for fashion, sharing her love and shopping hacks 21 00:01:08,465 --> 00:01:11,505 Speaker 1: on Instagram. So today I wanted to chat to Chelsea. 22 00:01:11,705 --> 00:01:15,225 Speaker 1: She's got some amazing insights about how being Chinese Australian 23 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:18,705 Speaker 1: has shaped her self expression, and we're diving deep into 24 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:22,105 Speaker 1: her wardrobe, almost literally, to find out where she shops, 25 00:01:22,185 --> 00:01:25,425 Speaker 1: how she shops, if she's organized, if she's a hoarder, 26 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:28,305 Speaker 1: and the items that she owns that holds the most 27 00:01:28,345 --> 00:01:32,945 Speaker 1: sentimental value. So Chelsea, welcome back technically to Nothing to War. 28 00:01:32,985 --> 00:01:36,145 Speaker 1: You didn't episode with Lucinda, which I absolutely loved listening to, 29 00:01:37,105 --> 00:01:39,305 Speaker 1: But today it's all about you. We're going to get 30 00:01:39,345 --> 00:01:41,145 Speaker 1: to know you. So first of all, I get to 31 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:45,105 Speaker 1: ask new guests two questions. Firstly, can you describe your 32 00:01:45,185 --> 00:01:46,705 Speaker 1: style in three words? For me? 33 00:01:47,145 --> 00:01:52,905 Speaker 2: I can try. I would say comfortable, eclectic, and edgy. 34 00:01:53,745 --> 00:01:56,105 Speaker 2: I hate using that word. Well I'm so quirky, but 35 00:01:56,345 --> 00:01:57,345 Speaker 2: I feel like it. 36 00:01:57,425 --> 00:02:01,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people, it describes what you're trying to say. Yeah, yeah, 37 00:02:01,185 --> 00:02:03,705 Speaker 1: it's something a little bit different. Yes, yes, great, I 38 00:02:03,825 --> 00:02:06,465 Speaker 1: like that. Eclectic. I like to be eclectic, but I 39 00:02:06,465 --> 00:02:11,305 Speaker 1: think I'm really just an unorganized mess. And so the 40 00:02:11,305 --> 00:02:13,225 Speaker 1: theory that we think is pretty true for a lot 41 00:02:13,265 --> 00:02:16,345 Speaker 1: of women wardrobe of clothes, but there's ten percent of 42 00:02:16,345 --> 00:02:18,865 Speaker 1: that wardrobe that we just wear more than the rest. 43 00:02:19,505 --> 00:02:20,625 Speaker 1: What's in your ten percent? 44 00:02:20,825 --> 00:02:24,025 Speaker 3: I have this black tank top that I got years 45 00:02:24,065 --> 00:02:29,465 Speaker 3: ago on Deepop Damn yep, and probably six days of 46 00:02:29,465 --> 00:02:31,585 Speaker 3: the week. That's something that I'm throwing on because it 47 00:02:31,585 --> 00:02:35,025 Speaker 3: just goes with everything. And I think more recently, the headband. 48 00:02:35,145 --> 00:02:36,385 Speaker 3: I know, it's like kind of come back. 49 00:02:36,625 --> 00:02:39,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one or two and I think I 50 00:02:39,505 --> 00:02:40,785 Speaker 2: wear it probably seven days a week. 51 00:02:40,865 --> 00:02:43,105 Speaker 1: I need to get into a headband because my hair 52 00:02:43,145 --> 00:02:44,865 Speaker 1: is at an awkward length through it's always annoying and 53 00:02:44,905 --> 00:02:46,425 Speaker 1: in my face. But it doesn't go back to on 54 00:02:46,505 --> 00:02:48,745 Speaker 1: a full pony, so it's functional. It is it looks 55 00:02:48,745 --> 00:02:49,185 Speaker 1: so cute. 56 00:02:49,225 --> 00:02:51,225 Speaker 3: It's also one of those things where like I get 57 00:02:51,345 --> 00:02:52,945 Speaker 3: like my fringe or like the front of my head 58 00:02:52,985 --> 00:02:53,785 Speaker 3: gets a little bit early. 59 00:02:54,025 --> 00:02:55,785 Speaker 2: Same slick it back, throw a heapin on you. 60 00:02:55,825 --> 00:02:55,985 Speaker 3: Look. 61 00:02:56,065 --> 00:02:58,185 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you need to come on your beauty. Yeah. 62 00:02:58,225 --> 00:02:59,825 Speaker 1: I love that. And now I want to know what 63 00:02:59,865 --> 00:03:01,505 Speaker 1: that black tank is if you can track it down 64 00:03:01,545 --> 00:03:02,385 Speaker 1: and find new ones. 65 00:03:02,585 --> 00:03:05,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it in a few colors, but the 66 00:03:05,305 --> 00:03:06,265 Speaker 2: black one is the one that. 67 00:03:06,265 --> 00:03:09,425 Speaker 1: Just goes with everything. All right. So, as I said, today. 68 00:03:09,505 --> 00:03:11,985 Speaker 1: The topic is kind of You. We've done a few 69 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:13,785 Speaker 1: of these in the past. They're more of an in 70 00:03:13,865 --> 00:03:17,185 Speaker 1: conversation style episode to get to know you. You're going 71 00:03:17,225 --> 00:03:18,985 Speaker 1: to be joining us more on this podcast, which is 72 00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:22,545 Speaker 1: very exciting. So I want to know who are you, 73 00:03:24,265 --> 00:03:26,385 Speaker 1: What do you love, what do you do in your 74 00:03:26,425 --> 00:03:29,585 Speaker 1: spare time, what inspires you? Give us the lowdown on 75 00:03:29,625 --> 00:03:30,625 Speaker 1: who you are. Well. 76 00:03:30,665 --> 00:03:32,585 Speaker 3: So, I'm the entertainment writer here at Mamma Mia. So 77 00:03:32,625 --> 00:03:35,305 Speaker 3: I feel like it comes as no surprise that the 78 00:03:35,345 --> 00:03:37,145 Speaker 3: things I love really sort of live in that world. 79 00:03:37,225 --> 00:03:39,665 Speaker 2: I love to read, love to write, and. 80 00:03:39,665 --> 00:03:42,385 Speaker 3: I love movies and TV, and that's a lot of 81 00:03:42,465 --> 00:03:44,505 Speaker 3: kind of what inspires me as well fashion wise, but 82 00:03:44,665 --> 00:03:46,665 Speaker 3: just in life, I get a lot of inspiration from 83 00:03:46,705 --> 00:03:50,665 Speaker 3: pop culture and what I see on screen, and as 84 00:03:50,705 --> 00:03:52,265 Speaker 3: far as fashion goes, I feel like I actually draw 85 00:03:52,265 --> 00:03:54,465 Speaker 3: a lot of inspiration from the people in my life. 86 00:03:54,625 --> 00:03:57,665 Speaker 3: I have a lot of very fashionable friends, my sister, 87 00:03:57,945 --> 00:04:00,425 Speaker 3: my mom. I love looking at all photos of my 88 00:04:00,505 --> 00:04:02,945 Speaker 3: mom and my ground hoo and like pulling inspiration. 89 00:04:03,345 --> 00:04:06,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, I love that. Now, listen, you're 90 00:04:07,025 --> 00:04:11,025 Speaker 1: a writer and an author. Congratulation and you write so 91 00:04:11,265 --> 00:04:16,305 Speaker 1: beautifully about your bicultural experiences. So how has been a 92 00:04:16,425 --> 00:04:21,225 Speaker 1: Chinese Australian shaped your identity and your self expression beyond 93 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:23,625 Speaker 1: the words that you write, Because you've written two beautiful books, 94 00:04:23,985 --> 00:04:26,865 Speaker 1: you are an incredible poet. But how has it shaped 95 00:04:26,945 --> 00:04:30,105 Speaker 1: what you wear and your beauty approach, your fashion, your wardrobe, 96 00:04:30,145 --> 00:04:31,145 Speaker 1: how you show up in the world. 97 00:04:31,225 --> 00:04:34,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a lovely question. Well, I mean I 98 00:04:34,585 --> 00:04:37,545 Speaker 2: feel like growing up kind of straddling to cultures. You 99 00:04:37,585 --> 00:04:38,585 Speaker 2: sort of grew up with. 100 00:04:38,585 --> 00:04:42,025 Speaker 3: These two very different lenses, and when you're younger, you 101 00:04:42,025 --> 00:04:43,905 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time trying to reconcile those two 102 00:04:43,945 --> 00:04:45,945 Speaker 3: things and trying to be one or the other. 103 00:04:46,065 --> 00:04:47,585 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna ask if it tests to feel 104 00:04:47,625 --> 00:04:48,585 Speaker 1: like one or the other. Yeah. 105 00:04:48,665 --> 00:04:50,545 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think growing up it felt that way for 106 00:04:50,585 --> 00:04:51,305 Speaker 2: a very long time. 107 00:04:51,345 --> 00:04:55,425 Speaker 3: But I think now as an adult, those sort of 108 00:04:55,465 --> 00:04:58,265 Speaker 3: two cultures just feel intertwined in you, and I feel 109 00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:02,105 Speaker 3: like talking about fashion or beauty, it really trickles into everything. 110 00:05:02,305 --> 00:05:04,065 Speaker 3: So I feel like I draw a lot of inspiration 111 00:05:04,225 --> 00:05:07,145 Speaker 3: from Hong Kong, where that's where my family is from, 112 00:05:07,545 --> 00:05:10,025 Speaker 3: and Ossie fashion, so they're sort of both East and 113 00:05:10,225 --> 00:05:13,065 Speaker 3: Western influence, which I think is actually really beautiful. 114 00:05:13,185 --> 00:05:15,065 Speaker 1: Well it's the best of both worlds. Really, yeah, I 115 00:05:15,105 --> 00:05:17,945 Speaker 1: love that. So we're here to talk fashion and style. 116 00:05:18,225 --> 00:05:21,185 Speaker 1: It's called nothing to Wear. So what is your personal 117 00:05:21,225 --> 00:05:23,345 Speaker 1: approach to fashion and getting dressed? 118 00:05:23,665 --> 00:05:26,625 Speaker 3: I think for me, I'm quite an impulsive person, so 119 00:05:27,145 --> 00:05:30,425 Speaker 3: now in my twenty twenty five self, I try to 120 00:05:30,505 --> 00:05:34,265 Speaker 3: be quite intuitive with how I shop. I love going 121 00:05:34,265 --> 00:05:36,865 Speaker 3: on deep hop eBay, doing like vintage shopping, and I 122 00:05:36,865 --> 00:05:40,145 Speaker 3: feel like the bigger ticket items I try to secondhand shop, 123 00:05:40,425 --> 00:05:43,065 Speaker 3: and then yeah, for trends, I kind of go the 124 00:05:43,145 --> 00:05:46,265 Speaker 3: lower end, but I really shop like piece by piece 125 00:05:46,265 --> 00:05:47,705 Speaker 3: instead of having like an ideal look. 126 00:05:47,705 --> 00:05:49,825 Speaker 2: I don't really do mood boards and look books and things. 127 00:05:49,665 --> 00:05:51,305 Speaker 1: Like that either. I want to be that person that 128 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:53,105 Speaker 1: it feels like too much work. I just see an 129 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:55,465 Speaker 1: item that I like and I go, oh, it's cheap, 130 00:05:55,465 --> 00:05:57,425 Speaker 1: I'll buy it all. Oh it's expensive, I wish one 131 00:05:57,465 --> 00:05:57,985 Speaker 1: hundred percent. 132 00:05:58,105 --> 00:05:58,785 Speaker 2: That's me as well. 133 00:05:58,865 --> 00:06:01,025 Speaker 3: I feel like if I see something I'm like, does 134 00:06:01,025 --> 00:06:04,345 Speaker 3: this fuck joy? Does this piece of clothing make me excited? 135 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:06,625 Speaker 3: Is it something I can afford? I'll think about how 136 00:06:06,625 --> 00:06:08,585 Speaker 3: I'm going to style it with stuff that I own, 137 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:10,265 Speaker 3: and then I'll go ahead and get it. I don't 138 00:06:10,265 --> 00:06:11,905 Speaker 3: really think about it in terms of like I want 139 00:06:11,945 --> 00:06:13,425 Speaker 3: this look specifical life. 140 00:06:13,585 --> 00:06:16,425 Speaker 1: Say yeah, I also think like unless you're a celebrity 141 00:06:16,465 --> 00:06:18,785 Speaker 1: or someone that's constantly on camera, I mean misort of 142 00:06:18,825 --> 00:06:21,025 Speaker 1: on camera, but it doesn't count. But I just don't 143 00:06:21,025 --> 00:06:23,065 Speaker 1: think it looks like, Oh I like that top, it'll 144 00:06:23,105 --> 00:06:26,385 Speaker 1: go with enough things. I agree. Yeah, And how much 145 00:06:26,425 --> 00:06:28,145 Speaker 1: you said comfortable is one of your words. So how 146 00:06:28,225 --> 00:06:32,545 Speaker 1: much does practicality play into what you buy? Maybe it's 147 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:33,905 Speaker 1: you buy it and then ends up in your wardro 148 00:06:33,945 --> 00:06:36,705 Speaker 1: when you don't wear it because it's not comfy, versus 149 00:06:36,865 --> 00:06:40,065 Speaker 1: wanting to you know, we work in a semi glamorous industry, 150 00:06:40,185 --> 00:06:44,825 Speaker 1: versus buying things because it feels aspirational. You know. I've 151 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:47,225 Speaker 1: learned that lesson. It's like, oh, I work in media, 152 00:06:47,265 --> 00:06:49,025 Speaker 1: I'll buy this fancy thing and then I just live 153 00:06:49,065 --> 00:06:51,305 Speaker 1: in leggings. Yep. Yeah, So have you do you still 154 00:06:51,305 --> 00:06:52,465 Speaker 1: struggle with that? 155 00:06:52,585 --> 00:06:53,225 Speaker 2: I do a lot. 156 00:06:53,345 --> 00:06:56,465 Speaker 3: I think these days I try to be a little 157 00:06:56,505 --> 00:06:59,145 Speaker 3: bit more careful with that, because, like you said, I 158 00:06:59,265 --> 00:07:01,585 Speaker 3: end up having a wardrobe full of things because they're 159 00:07:01,585 --> 00:07:02,745 Speaker 3: not comfortable, I won't wear it. 160 00:07:02,785 --> 00:07:02,985 Speaker 1: Samee. 161 00:07:03,065 --> 00:07:04,425 Speaker 2: That's like a number one thing for me. 162 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:05,905 Speaker 1: Like they're pretty, but no one sees them. 163 00:07:05,985 --> 00:07:08,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, even if it's like it could be the most 164 00:07:08,105 --> 00:07:10,945 Speaker 3: beautiful thing in the world, but if I can't. Also 165 00:07:10,945 --> 00:07:13,065 Speaker 3: because day to day I'm coming into the office, I'm 166 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:14,865 Speaker 3: writing most of the day, so I'm sitting at my desk. 167 00:07:15,505 --> 00:07:19,145 Speaker 2: I really no way I get it. 168 00:07:19,225 --> 00:07:20,745 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be something that it's kind of 169 00:07:20,785 --> 00:07:23,185 Speaker 3: loose fitting on the waist. I can sit in it, 170 00:07:23,225 --> 00:07:25,345 Speaker 3: I can eat and do all that. So I feel 171 00:07:25,345 --> 00:07:27,545 Speaker 3: like that's like probably a top priority for me. I'll 172 00:07:27,585 --> 00:07:29,305 Speaker 3: see something. If I like it, I'll have to think about, 173 00:07:29,385 --> 00:07:30,945 Speaker 3: like is this comfortable practically. 174 00:07:31,305 --> 00:07:33,945 Speaker 1: I've learned that lesson at a good age. Trust me, 175 00:07:33,945 --> 00:07:35,905 Speaker 1: I've only just learnt it, and so I've still got 176 00:07:35,905 --> 00:07:36,705 Speaker 1: all the pretty things. 177 00:07:36,785 --> 00:07:39,345 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's just it's like that sometimes, 178 00:07:39,385 --> 00:07:39,745 Speaker 2: isn't it. 179 00:07:39,825 --> 00:07:41,985 Speaker 3: I have like tons of dresses and things that just 180 00:07:42,145 --> 00:07:43,705 Speaker 3: or like even like corset type tops. 181 00:07:43,745 --> 00:07:45,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I love it. 182 00:07:45,345 --> 00:07:48,025 Speaker 3: It's beautiful, but just like practically day to day just 183 00:07:48,025 --> 00:07:49,025 Speaker 3: not something that I would wear. 184 00:07:49,105 --> 00:07:51,465 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Okay, I want to talk and 185 00:07:51,505 --> 00:07:56,105 Speaker 1: get your opinion about fashion versus style. Are they different. 186 00:07:57,065 --> 00:07:59,345 Speaker 1: What is your opinion on those two terms. 187 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:01,585 Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't given that a whole lot of thought, 188 00:08:01,705 --> 00:08:05,345 Speaker 3: but in my opinion, fashion to me feels a little 189 00:08:05,385 --> 00:08:09,825 Speaker 3: bit more external, where a style feels more internal and 190 00:08:09,905 --> 00:08:13,345 Speaker 3: kind of personal in a way. I feel like fashion 191 00:08:13,425 --> 00:08:16,105 Speaker 3: is kind of informed by more external factors, and sometimes 192 00:08:16,105 --> 00:08:19,545 Speaker 3: it's maybe what's trending, what's current, or maybe what was 193 00:08:19,585 --> 00:08:23,225 Speaker 3: trending at a particular period of time, whereas style feels 194 00:08:23,225 --> 00:08:25,625 Speaker 3: deeply personal and I think, you know, I might see 195 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:27,345 Speaker 3: something I might not know if it's in fashion, but 196 00:08:27,385 --> 00:08:29,065 Speaker 3: i'll know if it's yea style. 197 00:08:28,905 --> 00:08:31,225 Speaker 1: Your stye. Yeah. And they tend to be I think 198 00:08:31,225 --> 00:08:33,145 Speaker 1: the things that live in your wardrobe the longest and 199 00:08:33,225 --> 00:08:36,345 Speaker 1: have the longest longevity, regardless of if they're an investment 200 00:08:36,345 --> 00:08:40,145 Speaker 1: piece or the price, because you're kind of subconscious picked 201 00:08:40,185 --> 00:08:42,265 Speaker 1: it rather than going, oh, red shoes, I better get 202 00:08:42,305 --> 00:08:42,825 Speaker 1: some red shoes. 203 00:08:42,905 --> 00:08:44,385 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm absent. 204 00:08:44,665 --> 00:08:46,305 Speaker 1: I love that. That's a good way to put it. 205 00:08:47,065 --> 00:08:49,945 Speaker 1: Talked about shopping, Are we an in real life person? 206 00:08:50,065 --> 00:08:53,185 Speaker 1: Are we an online shop? But you mentioned being impulsive? 207 00:08:54,105 --> 00:08:56,945 Speaker 1: How do you control that? Do you have some strategies? 208 00:08:57,145 --> 00:08:58,145 Speaker 1: How do you go shopping? 209 00:08:58,985 --> 00:09:01,545 Speaker 2: So I feel like a bit of both. I feel 210 00:09:01,545 --> 00:09:03,505 Speaker 2: like the gen Z and Me is very much like 211 00:09:03,585 --> 00:09:04,865 Speaker 2: online love to brows? 212 00:09:04,865 --> 00:09:07,785 Speaker 1: Do you pop to get at computers all day? Sometimes 213 00:09:07,785 --> 00:09:09,425 Speaker 1: I just accidentally go over to a website. 214 00:09:09,905 --> 00:09:11,105 Speaker 2: It's just so much easier. 215 00:09:11,225 --> 00:09:13,505 Speaker 3: Also, just for convenience sake, I think, Yeah, that's kind 216 00:09:13,545 --> 00:09:16,425 Speaker 3: of how I've shopped for the last I mean several years. 217 00:09:16,745 --> 00:09:19,705 Speaker 3: But I have recently started kind of going back into 218 00:09:19,745 --> 00:09:22,665 Speaker 3: stores and having that and I love that so much. 219 00:09:22,745 --> 00:09:24,105 Speaker 3: I think it also can be like a bit of 220 00:09:24,105 --> 00:09:27,065 Speaker 3: a social experience. So I love to go shopping with 221 00:09:27,065 --> 00:09:29,545 Speaker 3: my mom y friends and kind of make a day 222 00:09:29,545 --> 00:09:31,265 Speaker 3: of it. And the experience of just going in and 223 00:09:31,305 --> 00:09:33,705 Speaker 3: trying things on, Yeah, I think is actually a lot 224 00:09:33,705 --> 00:09:34,025 Speaker 3: of fun. 225 00:09:34,025 --> 00:09:35,065 Speaker 2: So I think a little bit of both. 226 00:09:35,145 --> 00:09:37,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you. I shop online now 227 00:09:37,785 --> 00:09:41,585 Speaker 1: more than ever before because life. But when I look 228 00:09:41,585 --> 00:09:43,625 Speaker 1: at what I wear the most, it's oftentimes the things 229 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,665 Speaker 1: I've bought in real life, because I've seen the fabric, 230 00:09:45,745 --> 00:09:48,505 Speaker 1: I've really tried it on, you know, I've got you know, 231 00:09:48,545 --> 00:09:51,105 Speaker 1: I do a lot of online returns. I keep a 232 00:09:51,105 --> 00:09:53,385 Speaker 1: lot of my online purchases, but the things I really love, 233 00:09:53,545 --> 00:09:56,745 Speaker 1: oftentimes what I've touched physically before I've paid the money. 234 00:09:56,825 --> 00:09:57,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true. 235 00:09:57,585 --> 00:09:59,625 Speaker 3: I think like also, nothing can really replicate like being 236 00:09:59,625 --> 00:10:01,705 Speaker 3: able to try something. Yeah, And I feel like for 237 00:10:01,745 --> 00:10:03,945 Speaker 3: so long I really took that for granted. 238 00:10:04,105 --> 00:10:06,225 Speaker 1: Yes, And also I think you have to think a 239 00:10:06,305 --> 00:10:08,105 Speaker 1: little bit more, like even if it's just to walk 240 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:11,265 Speaker 1: to the register now on the internet, just press one button. Yeah, 241 00:10:11,265 --> 00:10:12,825 Speaker 1: you don't even have to enter your credit cards. 242 00:10:13,025 --> 00:10:16,465 Speaker 3: And also crazy, well the shipping, it's you often I 243 00:10:16,505 --> 00:10:17,985 Speaker 3: find that I don't know if you're the same. You 244 00:10:18,025 --> 00:10:20,785 Speaker 3: tend to add more things to your basket, just like. 245 00:10:21,225 --> 00:10:25,505 Speaker 1: Say sixty dollars more to say I came out of 246 00:10:25,505 --> 00:10:28,505 Speaker 1: the shower yesterday. My son likes to research things on 247 00:10:28,505 --> 00:10:30,625 Speaker 1: my laptop. He's in kindy. He doesn't know what he's doing. 248 00:10:30,785 --> 00:10:34,065 Speaker 1: He had gone on too Amazon and bought these toys 249 00:10:34,425 --> 00:10:36,665 Speaker 1: because it's just like a big yellow button. He can't 250 00:10:36,665 --> 00:10:39,625 Speaker 1: really read, but he goes, you know, playing a video game. Yellow, 251 00:10:39,665 --> 00:10:41,425 Speaker 1: Great to the next step, Yellow to the next step. 252 00:10:41,465 --> 00:10:44,145 Speaker 1: That's so crazy, it's that easy. And you know, if 253 00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:46,305 Speaker 1: you don't have any self control, yeah, yeah, yeah, like me, 254 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:51,265 Speaker 1: so trends yes or no, you'd be across them. Because 255 00:10:51,265 --> 00:10:53,905 Speaker 1: obviously you're just across the zeit ghost from a you know, 256 00:10:54,065 --> 00:10:56,865 Speaker 1: entertainment perspective as well, So you're always on social media, 257 00:10:56,945 --> 00:10:59,345 Speaker 1: always seeing what you know, famous people and non famous 258 00:10:59,345 --> 00:11:03,665 Speaker 1: people are doing. Are you into trends? You are? I 259 00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:06,185 Speaker 1: hope you are, because I am too. I don't do everyone, 260 00:11:06,225 --> 00:11:08,105 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's you meant to be embarrassed 261 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:09,305 Speaker 1: to say I like trend. 262 00:11:09,345 --> 00:11:11,945 Speaker 3: I know exactly, like literally exactly what you just said. 263 00:11:11,985 --> 00:11:14,425 Speaker 3: I think, yes, I love a trend, but I don't 264 00:11:14,425 --> 00:11:15,905 Speaker 3: buy into every single trend. 265 00:11:15,945 --> 00:11:16,105 Speaker 1: Yeah. 266 00:11:16,105 --> 00:11:16,705 Speaker 3: I think. 267 00:11:17,985 --> 00:11:20,465 Speaker 2: For for instance, like when animal print came back, Lombard 268 00:11:20,505 --> 00:11:21,665 Speaker 2: print not for you. 269 00:11:21,465 --> 00:11:24,865 Speaker 3: No, I love it too. Now have like cowprint shoes, 270 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:27,185 Speaker 3: my bag is left prate, like I. 271 00:11:27,465 --> 00:11:28,065 Speaker 2: Love it so much. 272 00:11:28,305 --> 00:11:30,385 Speaker 3: I think it's because I've always kind of loved that, 273 00:11:30,465 --> 00:11:31,945 Speaker 3: Like there was a period of time when I was 274 00:11:31,985 --> 00:11:33,385 Speaker 3: younger that was sort of in as well, and I 275 00:11:33,505 --> 00:11:35,225 Speaker 3: kind of kept all the things that I had and 276 00:11:35,225 --> 00:11:37,065 Speaker 3: I was really sad when it went out of style. Yeah, 277 00:11:37,105 --> 00:11:39,145 Speaker 3: so I think it's more about picking a trend that 278 00:11:39,185 --> 00:11:41,705 Speaker 3: you genuinely love and not just because everyone's way. 279 00:11:41,785 --> 00:11:44,065 Speaker 1: I agree, And that's a great example. Like you've always 280 00:11:44,065 --> 00:11:46,905 Speaker 1: had an affinity for animal print, but you probably didn't 281 00:11:46,905 --> 00:11:49,345 Speaker 1: buy much up until recently because it just wasn't around. 282 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:51,265 Speaker 1: But then when a trend comes back or is around, 283 00:11:51,345 --> 00:11:53,865 Speaker 1: you've just got more choice. Yep. Agree, Like, for example, 284 00:11:53,905 --> 00:11:57,545 Speaker 1: Peplum's everywhere. I don't love peplum. I did it the 285 00:11:57,585 --> 00:11:59,865 Speaker 1: first time. I'm not going back there. But if I 286 00:11:59,905 --> 00:12:02,145 Speaker 1: was a peplum lover, now I've got heat to choose from. 287 00:12:02,225 --> 00:12:04,425 Speaker 1: So it's more just like you can dip in and 288 00:12:04,425 --> 00:12:07,345 Speaker 1: out when the tide comes with that trend, but don't 289 00:12:07,345 --> 00:12:08,545 Speaker 1: feel like you have to catch every wave. 290 00:12:08,665 --> 00:12:10,905 Speaker 3: Yes, And I also think if you're buying it because 291 00:12:10,945 --> 00:12:12,945 Speaker 3: you really really love that trend, even when it's no 292 00:12:13,025 --> 00:12:15,425 Speaker 3: longer a trend, there's opportunities where you can kind of 293 00:12:15,465 --> 00:12:16,625 Speaker 3: style it a certain way. 294 00:12:16,785 --> 00:12:18,145 Speaker 1: I just wear it because it makes me happy. 295 00:12:18,185 --> 00:12:18,865 Speaker 2: Agree. Agree. 296 00:12:19,145 --> 00:12:21,265 Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because I feel like these 297 00:12:21,305 --> 00:12:23,905 Speaker 1: two trends, I mean, they're not really trends, but they're 298 00:12:23,985 --> 00:12:26,585 Speaker 1: kind of movements are happening at the same time. First 299 00:12:26,585 --> 00:12:28,945 Speaker 1: we had quiet luxury, which is still kind of around, 300 00:12:29,105 --> 00:12:33,785 Speaker 1: and then now we're seeing maximalism. Do you err on 301 00:12:33,825 --> 00:12:35,545 Speaker 1: either side? Are you one or the other? And do 302 00:12:35,585 --> 00:12:38,825 Speaker 1: you think they can exist in the same Wardrobel, I'm 303 00:12:38,865 --> 00:12:39,705 Speaker 1: the same person. 304 00:12:41,025 --> 00:12:41,425 Speaker 2: I think. 305 00:12:41,665 --> 00:12:45,665 Speaker 3: Personally speaking, I am like a maximalist girl, like through 306 00:12:45,705 --> 00:12:46,105 Speaker 3: and through. 307 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:47,585 Speaker 2: I love like bag. 308 00:12:47,385 --> 00:12:51,545 Speaker 3: Charms, phone charms, all charms. I love like I don't 309 00:12:51,545 --> 00:12:54,945 Speaker 3: know if fun prints, colors and kind of mismatching. Yes, 310 00:12:55,385 --> 00:12:57,465 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of that and kind of adding 311 00:12:57,465 --> 00:13:00,585 Speaker 3: a little bit of character to an outfit. In saying that, though, 312 00:13:00,625 --> 00:13:03,585 Speaker 3: I do think they can coexist, I think, you know, 313 00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:06,265 Speaker 3: maybe taking some things from the quiet luxury movement and 314 00:13:06,305 --> 00:13:10,225 Speaker 3: like getting really like higher quality foundational. 315 00:13:09,705 --> 00:13:15,265 Speaker 1: Pieces because maximalist doesn't have to mean a lot of things. No, yeah, 316 00:13:15,265 --> 00:13:16,825 Speaker 1: that's so sometimes people get confused. 317 00:13:16,905 --> 00:13:19,425 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think they definitely can coexist and kind 318 00:13:19,425 --> 00:13:21,465 Speaker 3: of take little bits from each movement. 319 00:13:21,545 --> 00:13:23,025 Speaker 2: But personally speaking, I do. 320 00:13:23,105 --> 00:13:25,025 Speaker 3: I do love that maximalism is kind of having a 321 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:25,945 Speaker 3: little bit of a comeback. 322 00:13:26,145 --> 00:13:28,145 Speaker 1: See I'm not either. I wish I was quite luxury, 323 00:13:28,145 --> 00:13:31,185 Speaker 1: but I'm just quite classic and boring. But my wardrobe 324 00:13:31,265 --> 00:13:34,265 Speaker 1: is maximalist just because I've got so much stuff, but 325 00:13:34,345 --> 00:13:36,225 Speaker 1: I don't put it on all together. Maybe thinks how 326 00:13:36,225 --> 00:13:37,705 Speaker 1: I need to get more aware out of my things, 327 00:13:38,025 --> 00:13:40,185 Speaker 1: just do some more quirky combinations. 328 00:13:40,265 --> 00:13:42,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, have some fun with it, you know, Yes. 329 00:13:51,585 --> 00:13:54,865 Speaker 1: So talk to me about getting dressed. Do you plan 330 00:13:54,905 --> 00:13:57,505 Speaker 1: your outfits the night before? Do you wake up and 331 00:13:57,585 --> 00:14:00,345 Speaker 1: just go with the vibes? Do you ever, like do 332 00:14:00,425 --> 00:14:03,505 Speaker 1: a Sunday night the whole week ahead? And how long 333 00:14:03,545 --> 00:14:05,265 Speaker 1: does it take you from picking the outfit to out 334 00:14:05,305 --> 00:14:05,585 Speaker 1: the door? 335 00:14:06,625 --> 00:14:10,065 Speaker 3: So, no, there's no planning involved whatso. But I think 336 00:14:10,065 --> 00:14:13,025 Speaker 3: I'm a pretty chaotic person, So I just go to sleep, 337 00:14:13,065 --> 00:14:13,465 Speaker 3: wake up. 338 00:14:13,465 --> 00:14:15,265 Speaker 2: I think. I mean it's weather dependent too. 339 00:14:15,265 --> 00:14:16,145 Speaker 1: Do you check it the weather? 340 00:14:16,345 --> 00:14:17,825 Speaker 2: I don't check it. I just look out the windows. 341 00:14:17,865 --> 00:14:18,665 Speaker 2: You're kind of same. 342 00:14:19,385 --> 00:14:20,545 Speaker 1: My husband always checks the weather. 343 00:14:20,545 --> 00:14:22,545 Speaker 2: Beginning it was mine, Oh it's gonna be. 344 00:14:22,465 --> 00:14:24,625 Speaker 1: Twenty seven today, and I'm like at seven am, I'm cold. 345 00:14:24,745 --> 00:14:27,425 Speaker 1: And I get to three pm and I was like, oh. 346 00:14:27,105 --> 00:14:28,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm exactly the same. 347 00:14:28,345 --> 00:14:30,065 Speaker 3: So I'll just kind of look out the window, check 348 00:14:30,105 --> 00:14:32,265 Speaker 3: the vibe in the morning, see how I'm feeling. Yes, 349 00:14:32,425 --> 00:14:34,545 Speaker 3: in terms of throwing it together, maybe, I think picking 350 00:14:34,545 --> 00:14:37,745 Speaker 3: it generally takes longest, so I'll be like fifteen minutes maybe, but. 351 00:14:38,145 --> 00:14:39,985 Speaker 1: It's the least amount of time for that, and then 352 00:14:39,985 --> 00:14:40,905 Speaker 1: I get frustrated. 353 00:14:40,945 --> 00:14:43,385 Speaker 3: Same and then I'll end up walking out of the 354 00:14:43,385 --> 00:14:44,785 Speaker 3: house and something that I hate same. 355 00:14:44,825 --> 00:14:46,625 Speaker 1: I'll be like, I hate everything is on the floor, 356 00:14:46,665 --> 00:14:49,985 Speaker 1: and then when I get home from work, I'm like, well, yeah. 357 00:14:49,665 --> 00:14:50,545 Speaker 2: I'm exactly the same. 358 00:14:50,585 --> 00:14:52,505 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't leave too much time to get ready. 359 00:14:52,545 --> 00:14:54,425 Speaker 3: But I also just don't think I'm someone who like 360 00:14:54,625 --> 00:14:56,585 Speaker 3: would the night before sit around and be like, oh, yeah, 361 00:14:56,625 --> 00:14:58,385 Speaker 3: let's think about what I'm gonna wear yeaheah. 362 00:14:58,385 --> 00:14:59,745 Speaker 2: It gotta be the on the day kind of thing. 363 00:14:59,985 --> 00:15:02,385 Speaker 1: Interesting. I think about an item sometimes, I like, I 364 00:15:02,425 --> 00:15:04,505 Speaker 1: really want to wear those pants this week, Yeah, tomorrow. 365 00:15:04,345 --> 00:15:05,985 Speaker 2: And then you style it on the day. Yeah, We'll 366 00:15:05,985 --> 00:15:06,425 Speaker 2: figure it out. 367 00:15:06,665 --> 00:15:08,225 Speaker 1: Then you wake up and it's pouring rain, You're like, well, 368 00:15:08,385 --> 00:15:12,305 Speaker 1: I want to wear my shep hair all right. So, 369 00:15:12,305 --> 00:15:15,905 Speaker 1: speaking of getting dressed in your wardrobe, what's your approach there? 370 00:15:16,105 --> 00:15:20,105 Speaker 1: Are you a color? Are you a hoarder? Is it organized? 371 00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:22,705 Speaker 1: Is it messy? How do you store your things? And 372 00:15:22,745 --> 00:15:25,585 Speaker 1: do you have any tips for wardrobe and organization? 373 00:15:26,265 --> 00:15:29,225 Speaker 2: I am like the worst person to ask for organizational tips. 374 00:15:29,225 --> 00:15:31,545 Speaker 1: Like ever, oh my god, I've met my kindred spirit. 375 00:15:31,585 --> 00:15:34,665 Speaker 1: Thank God. Everyone's sitting in that chair is so organized, 376 00:15:34,705 --> 00:15:36,545 Speaker 1: and I'm just like why can't I beat it. 377 00:15:36,585 --> 00:15:37,865 Speaker 2: I'm just not that I wish I was. 378 00:15:38,185 --> 00:15:38,745 Speaker 1: I'm just not. 379 00:15:39,465 --> 00:15:43,065 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my wardrobe is very chaotic. I am 380 00:15:43,065 --> 00:15:47,145 Speaker 3: a hoarder. I just I mean, I'm a collector. 381 00:15:47,345 --> 00:15:47,585 Speaker 2: Same. 382 00:15:47,825 --> 00:15:49,665 Speaker 3: I love that I'm going to use that from now on. 383 00:15:49,705 --> 00:15:52,105 Speaker 3: I'm a collector, not a hoarder. Yes, but I find 384 00:15:52,145 --> 00:15:55,425 Speaker 3: it really hard to part with clothing. I do try 385 00:15:55,465 --> 00:15:57,545 Speaker 3: to every now and then do it a little bit 386 00:15:57,545 --> 00:15:59,665 Speaker 3: and do some you know, to clear the space for 387 00:15:59,745 --> 00:16:02,745 Speaker 3: new things. Yes, yeah, but it is hard. So I 388 00:16:02,745 --> 00:16:06,065 Speaker 3: mean there's probably items in my clothing that I've had 389 00:16:06,105 --> 00:16:07,585 Speaker 3: since like early UNI high school. 390 00:16:07,865 --> 00:16:10,985 Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe that speaks to back to the style thing 391 00:16:11,065 --> 00:16:12,905 Speaker 1: that you're buying things in your style so you don't 392 00:16:12,905 --> 00:16:15,265 Speaker 1: want to get rid of them because they're still useful. 393 00:16:15,385 --> 00:16:19,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think liked Yes exactly. I think there 394 00:16:19,625 --> 00:16:21,705 Speaker 3: are things that I've had for a long time that 395 00:16:21,905 --> 00:16:24,065 Speaker 3: maybe I haven't touched for a little while, but then 396 00:16:24,065 --> 00:16:25,905 Speaker 3: there will be an occasion. I know everyone say yeah, 397 00:16:25,905 --> 00:16:27,585 Speaker 3: like I'll find a time to wear it, but truly 398 00:16:27,625 --> 00:16:30,825 Speaker 3: that feels very real for me. Yeah, and you find something, Yeah, 399 00:16:30,865 --> 00:16:32,545 Speaker 3: I'll find something and I'll be like, oh, that still 400 00:16:32,705 --> 00:16:34,345 Speaker 3: feels my style. It feels like I could still pair 401 00:16:34,385 --> 00:16:35,905 Speaker 3: it with something, So I just find it hard to 402 00:16:36,265 --> 00:16:36,945 Speaker 3: throw things away. 403 00:16:36,985 --> 00:16:38,345 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to do it as long 404 00:16:38,385 --> 00:16:40,265 Speaker 1: as those things still bring you joy and you. 405 00:16:40,665 --> 00:16:41,585 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. 406 00:16:41,585 --> 00:16:43,465 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you're not organized like the rest of 407 00:16:43,505 --> 00:16:47,425 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, this is fun. Imagine you have an 408 00:16:47,505 --> 00:16:54,065 Speaker 1: unlimited budget, but you can only buy one color of clothing, shoes, 409 00:16:54,065 --> 00:16:57,745 Speaker 1: accessories for the rest of your life. What color and why? 410 00:16:58,625 --> 00:17:00,785 Speaker 2: It's going to be so boring and basic? But it's 411 00:17:00,785 --> 00:17:01,425 Speaker 2: got to be black. 412 00:17:01,705 --> 00:17:04,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can go to Chanell and buy all 413 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:04,825 Speaker 1: the black Chanels. 414 00:17:04,865 --> 00:17:08,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You know, the world is your oyster. When 415 00:17:08,225 --> 00:17:12,625 Speaker 3: it comes to black, it would yeah. 416 00:17:11,945 --> 00:17:14,185 Speaker 1: I think, oh cream, like can we have? Can I 417 00:17:14,225 --> 00:17:15,705 Speaker 1: have very. 418 00:17:15,905 --> 00:17:17,305 Speaker 2: Variations of the same color? 419 00:17:17,385 --> 00:17:20,465 Speaker 1: Okay, well you know off white maybe? I mean black 420 00:17:20,585 --> 00:17:23,465 Speaker 1: is very classic. It's a hard one, isn't it. 421 00:17:23,465 --> 00:17:24,105 Speaker 2: It is hard? 422 00:17:24,145 --> 00:17:26,025 Speaker 3: I think the only thing with white. I think I 423 00:17:26,025 --> 00:17:28,065 Speaker 3: spoke about this last time. I don't have a lot 424 00:17:28,065 --> 00:17:28,465 Speaker 3: of white. 425 00:17:28,665 --> 00:17:31,145 Speaker 1: I have mostly white. Yeah, I don't wear a lot 426 00:17:31,145 --> 00:17:33,865 Speaker 1: of black. I think it's my hair, especially when it's 427 00:17:33,945 --> 00:17:35,305 Speaker 1: very dark in a bob and then when I wear 428 00:17:35,305 --> 00:17:36,785 Speaker 1: a black I feel like I look like a lego 429 00:17:37,065 --> 00:17:40,465 Speaker 1: or a floating hand. Okay, but it's the unlimited budget 430 00:17:40,505 --> 00:17:43,225 Speaker 1: that threw me because I think oftentimes what holds me 431 00:17:43,265 --> 00:17:47,065 Speaker 1: back from experimenting more with color is that I feel 432 00:17:47,065 --> 00:17:51,305 Speaker 1: like you need more combinations to put it with ye where, 433 00:17:51,385 --> 00:17:53,505 Speaker 1: you know. That's why I try and keep things quite neutral. 434 00:17:53,705 --> 00:17:55,625 Speaker 1: I don't try, but that's generally how I get there. 435 00:17:55,905 --> 00:17:58,145 Speaker 1: But if I've got an unlimited budget, then I can 436 00:17:58,185 --> 00:17:59,745 Speaker 1: buy all the different color combos. 437 00:17:59,825 --> 00:18:02,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a question, it is, isn't it. 438 00:18:02,745 --> 00:18:04,465 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to take black and white off the table. 439 00:18:04,465 --> 00:18:05,385 Speaker 1: You have to choose the color. 440 00:18:05,945 --> 00:18:08,585 Speaker 2: Okay, it's brown count. 441 00:18:08,505 --> 00:18:11,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brown's I think round two. 442 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,785 Speaker 3: Actually, if I'm not allowed black or white, I brown's 443 00:18:13,785 --> 00:18:17,185 Speaker 3: also having quite a quite a moment soft pot. 444 00:18:17,345 --> 00:18:17,585 Speaker 1: Yeah. 445 00:18:17,705 --> 00:18:20,305 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's still very neutral, but I 446 00:18:20,345 --> 00:18:21,665 Speaker 3: don't know something fun about it, you know. 447 00:18:21,745 --> 00:18:24,145 Speaker 1: I agree, and it just feels like rich. Yes, and 448 00:18:24,185 --> 00:18:26,105 Speaker 1: now we are rich, we can buy all the extensive crowd. 449 00:18:26,145 --> 00:18:29,385 Speaker 1: It's so true. What's the one item in your wardrobe 450 00:18:29,505 --> 00:18:32,305 Speaker 1: that has the most emotional or sentimental value? 451 00:18:32,665 --> 00:18:36,185 Speaker 2: For me? It's jewelry in general. So with fashion, I'm 452 00:18:36,185 --> 00:18:37,865 Speaker 2: a little bit more. I don't know. 453 00:18:37,865 --> 00:18:40,945 Speaker 3: I'm happy to, you know, try a trend or try 454 00:18:40,945 --> 00:18:44,665 Speaker 3: something different. Whereas with jewelry, I'm very very intentional about 455 00:18:44,825 --> 00:18:46,865 Speaker 3: what I buy, and I think that really comes from 456 00:18:46,905 --> 00:18:48,745 Speaker 3: my mom and my grandma, and they've kind of passed 457 00:18:48,745 --> 00:18:51,185 Speaker 3: down different pieces to me, and I try to build 458 00:18:51,185 --> 00:18:53,025 Speaker 3: a collection that I wear all the time that I'm 459 00:18:53,025 --> 00:18:55,945 Speaker 3: going to keep forever. Yes, Pie, Yeah, it would probably 460 00:18:55,945 --> 00:18:57,905 Speaker 3: be like a family piece. There's a like a pearl 461 00:18:57,905 --> 00:18:59,625 Speaker 3: necklace my grandma gave me that I wore on my 462 00:18:59,625 --> 00:19:02,745 Speaker 3: wedding day and that's just like so so special to me. 463 00:19:02,905 --> 00:19:04,905 Speaker 3: So probably like a family piece. 464 00:19:04,985 --> 00:19:06,425 Speaker 1: I had a necklace on my wedding day, but I 465 00:19:06,465 --> 00:19:08,105 Speaker 1: don't know what I've done with it. Thanks for minding 466 00:19:08,345 --> 00:19:11,905 Speaker 1: it was obviously, wasn't. I think my husband like went 467 00:19:11,945 --> 00:19:13,785 Speaker 1: to Levisa the day before because someone told him that 468 00:19:13,825 --> 00:19:15,105 Speaker 1: you meant to like send something. 469 00:19:15,145 --> 00:19:16,865 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so cute though. 470 00:19:17,825 --> 00:19:20,425 Speaker 1: Okay, a few more questions then we'll get into bougie 471 00:19:20,425 --> 00:19:24,745 Speaker 1: and budget. What's your favorite ever purchase you've made. 472 00:19:25,585 --> 00:19:27,025 Speaker 3: I would say I think I wore this on the 473 00:19:27,065 --> 00:19:29,865 Speaker 3: pod last time. I will just leather jacket. It's kind 474 00:19:29,865 --> 00:19:31,425 Speaker 3: of a blazer style leather jacket. 475 00:19:31,425 --> 00:19:33,065 Speaker 2: It's very old and worn in. 476 00:19:33,145 --> 00:19:36,225 Speaker 1: Black, yes, but they wear in so well. 477 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:39,585 Speaker 3: But I actually got that in Japan at a vintage 478 00:19:39,585 --> 00:19:42,585 Speaker 3: store for like twenty dollars or something. 479 00:19:42,505 --> 00:19:43,705 Speaker 2: And I've worn it so much. 480 00:19:43,745 --> 00:19:45,985 Speaker 3: I wear it almost every day and it was worth 481 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,545 Speaker 3: all the hours I spent sifting through those racks. 482 00:19:48,625 --> 00:19:50,985 Speaker 1: Oh my god. See, I'm a huge thrifter and I've 483 00:19:50,985 --> 00:19:53,745 Speaker 1: been to Japan, but not since thrifting has blown up there. 484 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:54,585 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 485 00:19:54,665 --> 00:19:57,185 Speaker 1: I need like four days, two suitcases and go by myself. 486 00:19:57,225 --> 00:19:58,025 Speaker 2: You would love it. 487 00:19:58,025 --> 00:20:01,145 Speaker 3: It's amazing that just like the kind of variations of styles, 488 00:20:01,225 --> 00:20:03,545 Speaker 3: and there's like also like higher end obviously your designer 489 00:20:03,585 --> 00:20:04,185 Speaker 3: like luxury. 490 00:20:04,265 --> 00:20:06,785 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still like sifting through the cheap style. 491 00:20:06,825 --> 00:20:07,665 Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing. 492 00:20:07,705 --> 00:20:10,705 Speaker 1: And just the volume there because Australia getting great for thrifting, 493 00:20:10,745 --> 00:20:12,705 Speaker 1: but we just don't have the population to do the 494 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:13,945 Speaker 1: donation for the thrifting. 495 00:20:14,105 --> 00:20:16,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, those whole like areas where like that whole. 496 00:20:16,785 --> 00:20:18,985 Speaker 1: It's like a whole street of shops for trench coat. 497 00:20:20,545 --> 00:20:22,185 Speaker 1: I think nothing to needs to go onto it. Okay, 498 00:20:22,265 --> 00:20:26,745 Speaker 1: last one, what do you think most people misunderstand about style? 499 00:20:28,665 --> 00:20:31,665 Speaker 3: I think maybe just some of the rules around fashion 500 00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:33,945 Speaker 3: and style. So one of the ones I think of 501 00:20:34,065 --> 00:20:36,465 Speaker 3: is that you have to dress to flatter your body 502 00:20:36,505 --> 00:20:38,905 Speaker 3: type or what that means, like fluttering, which. 503 00:20:38,745 --> 00:20:41,745 Speaker 1: We're really saying slimming, yes, or hiding bits that you 504 00:20:41,745 --> 00:20:45,065 Speaker 1: don't like, which is very you know, a magazine hangover 505 00:20:45,105 --> 00:20:48,425 Speaker 1: and apologies. I used to work at magazines. But flattering 506 00:20:48,505 --> 00:20:51,385 Speaker 1: can just I think flattering should mean what makes you 507 00:20:51,425 --> 00:20:54,025 Speaker 1: feel good. Yes, it might be an oversized T shirt. 508 00:20:53,825 --> 00:20:54,745 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, one hundred percent. 509 00:20:54,825 --> 00:20:57,065 Speaker 3: I think it's if you feel good in it, then 510 00:20:57,105 --> 00:20:59,465 Speaker 3: it works, you know, then it's stylis flattering really? 511 00:20:59,545 --> 00:21:01,665 Speaker 2: Is you in a good mood? 512 00:21:02,385 --> 00:21:02,625 Speaker 1: Eyes? 513 00:21:03,225 --> 00:21:06,385 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's probably for me. Like what I feel 514 00:21:06,385 --> 00:21:08,225 Speaker 2: like is a little bit still outdated when. 515 00:21:09,665 --> 00:21:11,905 Speaker 1: You know, we still use the term because it kind 516 00:21:11,905 --> 00:21:13,825 Speaker 1: of gets to the point and we know what we mean, 517 00:21:14,225 --> 00:21:17,385 Speaker 1: but it feels outdated. Yeah, yeah, it just feel good fashion, 518 00:21:17,465 --> 00:21:32,465 Speaker 1: not slattering fashion. Yeah, you're a wise woman. It's very expensive, 519 00:21:33,265 --> 00:21:39,425 Speaker 1: how wondred Let's do boogie and budget. So it's just 520 00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:42,145 Speaker 1: anything we've recently purchased or in our wish lists are 521 00:21:42,145 --> 00:21:44,225 Speaker 1: in a new season, so you know, there's lots of 522 00:21:44,265 --> 00:21:46,265 Speaker 1: thing to choose from do you want to choose your 523 00:21:46,345 --> 00:21:47,705 Speaker 1: boogie your budget first. 524 00:21:48,065 --> 00:21:49,745 Speaker 2: I'll go with my budget first. 525 00:21:50,385 --> 00:21:52,145 Speaker 3: Both the things I've chosen are kind of the same 526 00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:53,665 Speaker 3: item but different price points. 527 00:21:53,665 --> 00:21:54,505 Speaker 1: Love, but I think it is good. 528 00:21:54,985 --> 00:22:00,505 Speaker 3: So my budget is the Zara ripped wide leg midwaist gene. Okay, 529 00:22:00,905 --> 00:22:02,465 Speaker 3: And last time I was on the pod, we spoke 530 00:22:02,465 --> 00:22:07,985 Speaker 3: about how ripped, Yes, distressing is back, which I love. 531 00:22:08,105 --> 00:22:11,065 Speaker 3: That's like a trend that I'm very much for. I've 532 00:22:11,065 --> 00:22:13,105 Speaker 3: been waiting, like eagerly waiting for it to come back. 533 00:22:13,105 --> 00:22:13,705 Speaker 2: So when I saw it. 534 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:17,265 Speaker 1: On I know I need to get my head around it. 535 00:22:17,265 --> 00:22:20,265 Speaker 1: It is yeah, like we're not doing that massive hole 536 00:22:20,265 --> 00:22:20,905 Speaker 1: in our knee. 537 00:22:21,065 --> 00:22:24,065 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows that may like that make up, 538 00:22:24,105 --> 00:22:26,105 Speaker 3: but also these are a jeans are kind of like 539 00:22:26,185 --> 00:22:28,345 Speaker 3: a little like just a small step where they elevated, 540 00:22:28,505 --> 00:22:31,185 Speaker 3: slightly distressed here and maybe a little bit on the knee. 541 00:22:31,185 --> 00:22:32,225 Speaker 2: Then too crazy. 542 00:22:32,385 --> 00:22:34,145 Speaker 1: They're not your Grandma's not going to go let me 543 00:22:34,145 --> 00:22:35,425 Speaker 1: buy some jeans. 544 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:37,785 Speaker 3: No, So I think these are kind of a little 545 00:22:37,825 --> 00:22:39,985 Speaker 3: taster of like a little bit of distressing that still 546 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,065 Speaker 3: feels quite tasteful. 547 00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:42,625 Speaker 1: Cool. I love that. How much are they? 548 00:22:42,745 --> 00:22:45,945 Speaker 2: They are sixty nine ninety five, so not too bad. 549 00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:48,065 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to buy a brand new, 550 00:22:48,185 --> 00:22:51,745 Speaker 1: go thrifted because that's where all the old distressed ones 551 00:22:51,905 --> 00:22:54,105 Speaker 1: are have been donated. Or just buy someone distressing me. 552 00:22:54,425 --> 00:22:55,785 Speaker 3: Yes, I was going to say, if you have old 553 00:22:55,865 --> 00:22:58,745 Speaker 3: jeans that you never wear anymore, it's a nice just 554 00:22:58,785 --> 00:23:00,545 Speaker 3: like make some decisions for them a little bit. 555 00:23:00,945 --> 00:23:02,465 Speaker 2: There's like a million tatorials on you too. 556 00:23:02,465 --> 00:23:06,145 Speaker 1: Fum. Yeah, Well, my budget is also a pair of pants, 557 00:23:06,425 --> 00:23:08,145 Speaker 1: so they're a pair of you to go pants, and 558 00:23:08,185 --> 00:23:11,465 Speaker 1: I have last year's version. They're doing an almost identical 559 00:23:11,545 --> 00:23:14,425 Speaker 1: version this year, but they're not launched until mid October. 560 00:23:14,465 --> 00:23:16,945 Speaker 1: So what I love about the nuclear website is there's 561 00:23:16,985 --> 00:23:19,705 Speaker 1: a coming soon. Tab oh I don't know. Yes, it 562 00:23:19,705 --> 00:23:21,945 Speaker 1: makes me excited because it also makes me less impulsive 563 00:23:21,985 --> 00:23:24,465 Speaker 1: because I go there and think, oh, I can't get them, 564 00:23:24,625 --> 00:23:26,665 Speaker 1: and then I think about them. But I have these 565 00:23:26,745 --> 00:23:29,105 Speaker 1: pants in kind of like a light khaki olive, and 566 00:23:29,305 --> 00:23:31,225 Speaker 1: I have worn them to death, and that is not 567 00:23:31,265 --> 00:23:33,105 Speaker 1: to say they're not good quality. I just love them 568 00:23:33,105 --> 00:23:35,185 Speaker 1: and I get so many comments on them. So this 569 00:23:35,265 --> 00:23:38,825 Speaker 1: season's version is called the Linen Blend Barrel Leg Pants 570 00:23:39,105 --> 00:23:42,185 Speaker 1: fifty nine ninety. When I say Linen blend, it's not 571 00:23:42,305 --> 00:23:45,545 Speaker 1: that sort of Byron bay Lineny Lineny beach linen. It's 572 00:23:45,705 --> 00:23:48,625 Speaker 1: very kind of urban linen. You can wear them in 573 00:23:48,625 --> 00:23:50,665 Speaker 1: the city, you could wear them out to drinks. They're 574 00:23:50,705 --> 00:23:53,465 Speaker 1: so comfy, they're so good. Fifty nine fifty oh good. 575 00:23:53,505 --> 00:23:54,345 Speaker 2: I love a barrel. 576 00:23:54,705 --> 00:23:57,865 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's also it's not an extreme barrel, it's 577 00:23:57,945 --> 00:24:02,465 Speaker 1: quite it's, you know, a cool but tapered, wearable barrel. 578 00:24:02,705 --> 00:24:04,545 Speaker 1: I'm literally going to get a recolor this season because 579 00:24:04,545 --> 00:24:07,465 Speaker 1: I wish I did last year. They're so comfy, they're breathable. Wow, 580 00:24:07,545 --> 00:24:10,505 Speaker 1: I should be an ambassador your boogie. So you've got 581 00:24:10,545 --> 00:24:11,665 Speaker 1: a bougie version. 582 00:24:11,785 --> 00:24:15,385 Speaker 3: Yes, So my bougie version is the SUBI Super Serge 583 00:24:15,425 --> 00:24:16,505 Speaker 3: trashed again. 584 00:24:16,745 --> 00:24:17,185 Speaker 2: Distress. 585 00:24:17,265 --> 00:24:18,865 Speaker 3: These are a little bit more distressed, maybe a bit 586 00:24:18,865 --> 00:24:19,745 Speaker 3: too much for your taste. 587 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:22,105 Speaker 1: With your taste you watch in three weeks, i'll be 588 00:24:22,105 --> 00:24:22,705 Speaker 1: come out. 589 00:24:23,545 --> 00:24:24,385 Speaker 2: I love these though. 590 00:24:24,385 --> 00:24:26,025 Speaker 3: There's a little bit more distressing on the front, and 591 00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:27,905 Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't know, I just I think 592 00:24:27,945 --> 00:24:29,905 Speaker 3: it's a part of me that used to wear distress jeans. 593 00:24:29,905 --> 00:24:32,145 Speaker 2: I still have all my distress jeans. Like when people 594 00:24:32,145 --> 00:24:33,945 Speaker 2: stopped wearing them. I was really sad about it, so 595 00:24:33,985 --> 00:24:35,585 Speaker 2: I feel like I still got that. Yeah, and I 596 00:24:35,585 --> 00:24:38,265 Speaker 2: can pull them out now and it's trendy again. 597 00:24:39,225 --> 00:24:42,065 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna work on that. Although why 598 00:24:42,105 --> 00:24:43,865 Speaker 1: in my mid forties do I feel like I have to? 599 00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:47,465 Speaker 1: But I agree they can look very cool, like even 600 00:24:47,505 --> 00:24:50,065 Speaker 1: if you do a distress gene but an oversized fitted 601 00:24:50,185 --> 00:24:52,265 Speaker 1: kind of blazer, like you don't have to look like 602 00:24:52,345 --> 00:24:54,065 Speaker 1: you're going to this game park. 603 00:24:54,185 --> 00:24:55,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you know what, It's the same 604 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:56,665 Speaker 2: way I feel about. 605 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,145 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about peplum before, how I hate 606 00:24:59,225 --> 00:25:01,065 Speaker 3: that when it was around back in the twenty tens 607 00:25:01,105 --> 00:25:03,065 Speaker 3: and the way it was styled. But I do think 608 00:25:03,065 --> 00:25:06,025 Speaker 3: there's some really chic and unique ways to style it 609 00:25:06,065 --> 00:25:06,945 Speaker 3: now that we weren't doing. 610 00:25:07,145 --> 00:25:09,065 Speaker 1: Agree, and it was agreed. So if there's a trend 611 00:25:09,065 --> 00:25:11,585 Speaker 1: that's coming back, forget how you wore it and look 612 00:25:11,625 --> 00:25:15,265 Speaker 1: at it with fresh eyes before you write it off. Yes, okay, Well, 613 00:25:15,425 --> 00:25:19,465 Speaker 1: my bougie is inspired by I just got back. Actually 614 00:25:19,545 --> 00:25:21,065 Speaker 1: you filled in for me, thank you. I was in 615 00:25:21,105 --> 00:25:24,785 Speaker 1: Canada for a workstrip. I was in Toronto, which I'm 616 00:25:24,825 --> 00:25:26,505 Speaker 1: moving to you by the way, this is my resignation 617 00:25:26,585 --> 00:25:28,505 Speaker 1: only joking. I've been to Toronto a couple of times, 618 00:25:28,505 --> 00:25:30,505 Speaker 1: but it's just above New York City. It's New York 619 00:25:30,545 --> 00:25:34,185 Speaker 1: City without the madness of you know that country at 620 00:25:34,225 --> 00:25:36,185 Speaker 1: the moment. And also the dollars pretty much on path 621 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:39,145 Speaker 1: and they were all going into autumn winter. And what 622 00:25:39,225 --> 00:25:42,145 Speaker 1: I love to see was because we're seeing so much 623 00:25:42,505 --> 00:25:47,625 Speaker 1: summer or spring summer swede here, they're all the chocolate 624 00:25:47,665 --> 00:25:50,105 Speaker 1: and tan Swedes are still everywhere in Zara, in h 625 00:25:50,145 --> 00:25:53,345 Speaker 1: and m in Mango, and they get cold, cold, cold there. 626 00:25:53,905 --> 00:25:56,425 Speaker 1: So if you are thinking about investing in a Swede anything, 627 00:25:56,785 --> 00:25:59,865 Speaker 1: do it now. Wear it through summer. Obviously differently, not 628 00:25:59,945 --> 00:26:03,105 Speaker 1: to the beach. But we're seeing a lot of Swyede 629 00:26:03,105 --> 00:26:04,945 Speaker 1: for the first time in a hot season. But you're 630 00:26:04,945 --> 00:26:07,385 Speaker 1: going to invest. So I saw some really cool women 631 00:26:07,425 --> 00:26:09,865 Speaker 1: walking around and it was quite warm for the time 632 00:26:09,905 --> 00:26:12,985 Speaker 1: of year, so they were in there Swede loafers but 633 00:26:13,025 --> 00:26:15,505 Speaker 1: with shorts and a blazer or Swayede loafers with a 634 00:26:15,545 --> 00:26:19,025 Speaker 1: cool flowy maxi, which we can do now and then 635 00:26:19,025 --> 00:26:20,865 Speaker 1: you can wear them with you U jeans and stuff later. 636 00:26:21,025 --> 00:26:24,225 Speaker 1: So I've got a very affordable pair from one hundred 637 00:26:24,305 --> 00:26:26,025 Speaker 1: years ago that I wore on that trip, but it 638 00:26:26,105 --> 00:26:29,425 Speaker 1: made me realize actually they fell apart on the trip 639 00:26:29,785 --> 00:26:32,305 Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean there's some slippery stairs this so 640 00:26:32,305 --> 00:26:35,665 Speaker 1: all fell off. Anyway, I want a new pair of 641 00:26:35,785 --> 00:26:38,985 Speaker 1: beautiful kind of swayed I'm calling it a loafer, but 642 00:26:39,025 --> 00:26:41,625 Speaker 1: they're not really like a business loafer. It's kind of 643 00:26:41,625 --> 00:26:47,345 Speaker 1: a moccasin hybrid. My dream pair are the Todd's driving 644 00:26:47,425 --> 00:26:49,425 Speaker 1: shoes in Swede, and how. 645 00:26:49,425 --> 00:26:50,505 Speaker 2: Much of those they are? 646 00:26:50,745 --> 00:26:54,785 Speaker 1: One thousand, two hundred and thirty dollars. I'm always love them, 647 00:26:54,785 --> 00:26:56,425 Speaker 1: but I'm still not going to buy them because they've 648 00:26:56,425 --> 00:26:59,625 Speaker 1: got that like classic Todd's tread that's like like a 649 00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:01,345 Speaker 1: dry They call it a driving shoe, so I know 650 00:27:01,385 --> 00:27:03,065 Speaker 1: the base is durable, ye, But I ain't got one 651 00:27:03,065 --> 00:27:04,505 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to spend on sweet shoes. 652 00:27:04,505 --> 00:27:05,345 Speaker 2: The dollars are steep. 653 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:08,105 Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I'm tough on my shoes. I do 654 00:27:08,185 --> 00:27:10,145 Speaker 1: have some fancy pairs, but I often get them on 655 00:27:10,225 --> 00:27:10,625 Speaker 1: deep hop. 656 00:27:10,705 --> 00:27:10,865 Speaker 2: Yep. 657 00:27:11,025 --> 00:27:13,745 Speaker 1: I'm not spending that much money on new shoes, so 658 00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,465 Speaker 1: in reality, I think I'm going to get the Sense 659 00:27:15,545 --> 00:27:19,185 Speaker 1: so Astro too. They are very similar, you know, like 660 00:27:19,225 --> 00:27:21,985 Speaker 1: I said, loafery but not business loafer, casual loafer, a 661 00:27:21,985 --> 00:27:24,465 Speaker 1: bit of a moccasin two hundred and forty nine okay, 662 00:27:24,545 --> 00:27:26,185 Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of different colour suedes. I'm going 663 00:27:26,265 --> 00:27:29,185 Speaker 1: to get the kind of darker tan erring on the 664 00:27:29,225 --> 00:27:31,585 Speaker 1: side of brown but not chocolate brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 665 00:27:31,585 --> 00:27:34,385 Speaker 1: I just want to wear them forever. I'm so excited. 666 00:27:34,705 --> 00:27:36,745 Speaker 1: A loafer is just I love a loafer. And I think, 667 00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:38,665 Speaker 1: you know, we all go oh summer blah blah blah, 668 00:27:38,705 --> 00:27:40,665 Speaker 1: but I still come to the office and I've done 669 00:27:40,865 --> 00:27:43,465 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Sometimes you want a close stow shoe, yeah, agreed. 670 00:27:43,505 --> 00:27:45,585 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't want to wear sandals into me. Sometimes 671 00:27:45,785 --> 00:27:48,385 Speaker 1: you don't have a petty Sometimes the ac. 672 00:27:48,305 --> 00:27:51,505 Speaker 3: Is blasting and you just need a kadi and a 673 00:27:51,545 --> 00:27:53,825 Speaker 3: pair of los Chelsea. 674 00:27:53,865 --> 00:27:56,025 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I love getting to know you better. 675 00:27:56,825 --> 00:27:58,945 Speaker 1: We're going to have you back on quite frequently, I think, 676 00:27:59,065 --> 00:28:00,665 Speaker 1: and thank you for filling in for me when I 677 00:28:00,705 --> 00:28:01,145 Speaker 1: went away. 678 00:28:01,225 --> 00:28:02,505 Speaker 2: Thank you see you soon. 679 00:28:03,385 --> 00:28:05,865 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 680 00:28:05,905 --> 00:28:07,985 Speaker 1: to sign up to the Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's 681 00:28:08,025 --> 00:28:10,465 Speaker 1: a link in the show notes, and so don't forget 682 00:28:10,505 --> 00:28:13,025 Speaker 1: you can watch us on YouTube and follow us on 683 00:28:13,105 --> 00:28:25,225 Speaker 1: Instagram at Nothing to Wear Pod. We'll be back soon Bye.