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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quickie. Kamala Harris has made some pretty big waves

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Speaker 1: we've seen her face the exact same trope that many

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Speaker 1: other women world leaders have also had to face.

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Speaker 3: We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, by

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Speaker 3: a bunch of childless cat ladies. Whof you look a

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. The entire future of the Democrats is controlled

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Speaker 3: by people without children.

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Speaker 1: Before we look into how other women have handled the

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Speaker 1: backlash of stepping into a role that men have long

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Speaker 1: held an I in grip on, let's get the latest

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Speaker 1: from the Qokie newsroom. Tuesday, July thirty. The man who

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Speaker 1: shot at former President Donald Trump was identified by law

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Speaker 1: enforcement as a suspicious person more than an hour before

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Speaker 1: he pulled the true The FBI's investigation into the timeline

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Speaker 1: of the assassination attempt on the former president found that

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Speaker 1: a photo was taken to share with other law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officers at the scene. Thirty minutes later, Sword Team operators

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Speaker 1: saw the twenty year old using a rangefinder and browsing

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Speaker 1: news sites Less than twenty minutes before the attack. He

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Speaker 1: was caught on police dash cam walking on the roof

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Speaker 1: from where the shots were fired. FBI officials say they're

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Speaker 1: still trying to determine a motive for the July thirteen shooting,

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Speaker 1: but say the man was searching other mass shooting events

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Speaker 1: in the lead up to the attack, as well as

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Speaker 1: the attempted assassination of the Slovakian Prime minister back in May.

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Speaker 1: Based on Australian Bureau of Statistics data, women are retiring

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Speaker 1: seven years earlier than men, with a peak union body

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Speaker 1: saying the taboo nature of the silence around menopause is

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Speaker 1: to blame. The Australian Council of Trade Unions is pushing

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Speaker 1: for ten days leave for menopause and fertility issues affecting

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Speaker 1: both women and men. With menopause impacting women mostly aged

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Speaker 1: hot flushes, brain fog and mood swings. Many forced into

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Speaker 1: early retirement, which leads to lost earnings and lower super

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Speaker 1: The ACTU believes if there's better support for women during

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Speaker 1: this phase of their lives, it would allow them to

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Speaker 1: better manage symptoms and stain in the workforce. There are

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Speaker 1: concerns Regional airline Res maybe about to go under after

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Speaker 1: turnaround team from Deloyd has been called in to go

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Speaker 1: over the airline's books after it was revealed they were

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Speaker 1: experiencing multimillion dollar losses despite being one of the only

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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister has expressed his concerns, saying an airline

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Speaker 1: like Rex is very important to the communities they service,

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Speaker 1: meeting with Transport Minister Catherine King on Monday to discuss

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Speaker 1: the issue. Actors Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds have reacted

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Speaker 1: after their movie Deadpool and Wolverine became the eighth biggest

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Speaker 1: opening movie of all time in the US, making six

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight million dollars globally on its opening weekend.

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Speaker 1: Jackman took to social media to thank fans, posting a

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Speaker 1: pick of him dressed as Wolverine lying in bed holding

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Speaker 1: everyone who went to see the film. Reynolds also recently

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Speaker 1: Friend and they hated it. The Pulse on Paris thanks

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Speaker 1: to move by Mamma Mia the exercise app he'll actually

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Speaker 1: enjoy over in Paris, and Australia has added three to

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Speaker 1: A pact arena at Roland Garross saw what many believe

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Speaker 1: Harry Garside wasn't able to back up his bronze medal

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Speaker 1: performance from Tokyo, losing his first fight in Paris. That's

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Speaker 1: what's going on in the world today. Next, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: is facing more than just a fight to get Democrats

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Speaker 1: as of March twenty twenty three, thirteen of the one

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Speaker 1: countries first. But good America, known to be one of

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was endorsed by President Joe Biden to run

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Speaker 1: for the Democratic nomination in his place, she has raised

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Speaker 1: more than two hundred million dollars in donations. Leading Democrats

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Speaker 1: fell in line behind her, with the Obamas this weekend

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Speaker 4: Camel hiyy there.

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Speaker 1: Ah, You're both together. I can't have this phone call

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Speaker 1: without saying, this is going to be historic.

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Speaker 2: We called to say Michelle, and I couldn't be prouder

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Speaker 2: to endorse you and to do everything we can to

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Speaker 4: Michelle Bright, this means so much to me.

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Speaker 1: Harris has already changed the tone in which the US

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Speaker 1: speaks about the war in Gaza, where Biden and Trump

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Speaker 1: to show as the death toll escalated and the humanitarian

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Speaker 1: crisis worsened, Harris says she will not be silent in

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Speaker 1: the face of Palestinian suffering. However, she still pledged on

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Speaker 1: going support to Israel activists, saying expressing sympathy without meaningful

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Speaker 1: shifts away from the unconditional military and diplomatic support will

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Speaker 1: not help her win votes. Trump has said Harris just

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Speaker 1: doesn't like Jewish people after she refused to meet with

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Speaker 1: near as confident in facing down a Democrat like Harris

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Speaker 1: as he was with Biden, throwing a range of insults

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Speaker 1: At the same time, though, Trump is refusing to debate

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Speaker 1: Trump also said some alarming things at a rally in Florida,

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Speaker 1: making it seem like if he wins, he'll abolish the

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Speaker 4: And again, Christians get out and vote.

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Speaker 3: Just this time.

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Speaker 4: You won't have to do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Four more years. You know what, It'll be fixed.

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Speaker 4: It'll be fine, My beautiful Christians, I love you. In

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna have to vote.

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Speaker 1: Democrats responded, some saying the only way you won't have

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Speaker 1: to vote out the next election is if Trump is

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Speaker 1: Trump is also facing some backlash over his choice of

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Speaker 1: resurfaced comment from Vance in a twenty twenty one interview

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Speaker 3: We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via

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Speaker 3: our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies

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Speaker 3: who are miserable at their own lives and the choices

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Speaker 3: that they've made, and so they want to make the

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Speaker 3: rest of the country miserable too. And it's just a

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Speaker 3: basic fact. You look at Kamala Harris, Pete boodhage aoc

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Speaker 1: Harris has already become the subject of racist and sexist

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Speaker 1: of Biden. So will Kamala Harris's efforts to get to

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Speaker 1: offending women who Jade Vance and Trump have said are

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Speaker 2: that because a lot of people live in families that

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Speaker 2: mean that Kamala Harris doesn't have a close relationship with

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Speaker 2: those two children. But on the Julia Gillard point, absolutely

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Speaker 2: Then oppositionally to Tony Abbot said in Parliament Gillard should

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Speaker 2: she described Tony Abbott as a misogynist. She said that

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Speaker 2: she herself was personally offended by a lot of the comments.

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Speaker 2: Her voice broke when she was saying this. It was

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Speaker 1: I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by

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Speaker 2: The immediate response domestically at the time was pretty cynical.

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Speaker 2: People thought she was doing this to distract from some

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Speaker 2: long forgotten corruption scandal. And it was only when internationally

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Speaker 2: So it really is worth remembering that her reputation has

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Speaker 1: An area of the world that seems to have disproportionately

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Speaker 1: Just a few days ago, Kamala Harris a fish, launched

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Speaker 4: Choose freedom, the freedom not just to get bye, but

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Speaker 1: Will her idealism be her undoing as it was for

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Speaker 1: I understand the assignment, posted with a picture of her

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