WEBVTT - How To Build A Profitable Side Hustle (From Someone Who Actually Did It)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Amma mea podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to biz your work life sorted. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>m Venom, and today's episode had me doing something pretty dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling through TikTok at two am looking at all these

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<v Speaker 2>side hustle videos. You know the ones I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>the I made fifty K selling stickies, or here's how

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<v Speaker 2>I quit my job by.

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<v Speaker 3>Making these videos.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead of another vague hustle culture pep talk, We've

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<v Speaker 2>got something that is actually useful to you. Sopha is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be chatting with our guest today who literally

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<v Speaker 2>started her side hustle by drawing houses, Yes, literally just

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<v Speaker 2>sketching houses, and now she runs a seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollar business working just four days a week. The best

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<v Speaker 2>part is that she's brutally honest about what it actually

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<v Speaker 2>takes to run a side hustle. Plus, Michelle's jumping in

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<v Speaker 2>later with some Genie has low key side hustle ideas

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<v Speaker 2>that don't require you to become a full time entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 4>Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 5>So before I tell you who we're talking to today,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna hear you with a few facts about her

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<v Speaker 5>that are going to make you want to jump out

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<v Speaker 5>of your chair and stop procrastinating on your idea and

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<v Speaker 5>just do something with your side hustle. So she turned

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<v Speaker 5>her side hustle into her main hustle and now makes

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<v Speaker 5>seven hundred thousand dollars annually. Her business makes that one

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<v Speaker 5>sales email to her database made her sixteen thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>and when she started, she was selling a single unit

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<v Speaker 5>for thirty five dollars of her product. She now sells

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<v Speaker 5>that same unit for five hundred dollars. She's also a

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<v Speaker 5>mum to till Be, aged three, and this is the

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<v Speaker 5>best part. She doesn't work on Fridays. She generally finishes

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<v Speaker 5>at four pm, and she takes two months off a

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<v Speaker 5>year for something that she calls endless tilby Summer. Her

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<v Speaker 5>name is Georgia Norton Lodge.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You made me sound of.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, So you know, so what right?

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<v Speaker 5>We hear these success stories on social all the time

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<v Speaker 5>and it's kind of like, good for you, but for

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<v Speaker 5>everyone listening, you know, the so what for you is

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<v Speaker 5>that Georgia has actually turned around and now she's helping

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<v Speaker 5>other women to make profitable, sustainable side hustles. So that

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<v Speaker 5>is why we have her in. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people doing this on the internet. But the reason I

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<v Speaker 5>picked Georgia is I just love how extremely practical and

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<v Speaker 5>realistic her advice is.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus her energy is just like totally contagious.

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<v Speaker 5>If you are not starting a side hustle at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of this episode, then I have failed you.

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<v Speaker 4>So what are you getting out of this?

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<v Speaker 5>We're giving you exactly what you need to know before

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<v Speaker 5>you start, good versus bad side hustle ideas and some

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<v Speaker 5>mistakes to avoid. These six steps you need to take

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<v Speaker 5>to get started even if you have no time and

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<v Speaker 5>no budget. And then also if it's working, how to

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<v Speaker 5>turn your side hustle into your main hustle. Georgia, I've

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<v Speaker 5>given people some facts, but tell us in one sentence

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<v Speaker 5>what you're businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>One sentence is hard, but I'll give it a go.

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<v Speaker 6>I started this business simply drawing houses for people like

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<v Speaker 6>pen paper scribbling houses, and now ten years later, I

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<v Speaker 6>help women build businesses that make money.

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<v Speaker 5>Amazing, and there's a pretty interesting story to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>how you started. Do you want to just give us

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<v Speaker 5>that in sixty seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I've never done this ever before. Yes, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 1>My business started in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 6>And it started because I drew my mother's house for

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<v Speaker 6>this book that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing.

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<v Speaker 6>And when I got the house, I thought it was amazing,

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<v Speaker 6>and I went to my mom's front door and I said, here, Mam,

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<v Speaker 6>I have this drawing. And my mum is a crazy

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<v Speaker 6>great lady, and she shouted crying and.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, it's amazing, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>And she put it in a hallway in this like

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<v Speaker 6>really Greek gold frame, like you can't miss it. And

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<v Speaker 6>my mum's friend came over and was like, Donna, where

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<v Speaker 6>did you get your house drawn? I've been looking for

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<v Speaker 6>someone to do that for ages. My mom was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I know the artist. She used to live in the

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<v Speaker 6>front room. So I drew my mum's friend's house. Then

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<v Speaker 6>I drew my mum's friend's auntie's house, and my mum's

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<v Speaker 6>friend's uncle's house. I started in Instagram. I built a

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<v Speaker 6>website Georgia there was a house was born. And then

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<v Speaker 6>I did that for five years. So it existed as

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<v Speaker 6>a side hustle for five years. Every night I'd come

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<v Speaker 6>home and i'd draw after my nine to five, which

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<v Speaker 6>was actually like seven am to seven pm. And then

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<v Speaker 6>I did that for five years, and one day, like

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<v Speaker 6>at the same time, I decided I hated my boss.

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<v Speaker 6>I also realized I was really tired, and in my delirium,

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<v Speaker 6>I had some people help me do a big mural

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<v Speaker 6>on the side of a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did this mural. It is the front of

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<v Speaker 1>my parents' house.

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<v Speaker 6>On the side of my parents' house, and about ten

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<v Speaker 6>days later, the City Morning Herald found a photo of

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<v Speaker 6>me in front of it posted a full page spread

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<v Speaker 6>in the Sunday paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I got hundreds of orders and quit my job the

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<v Speaker 1>next day.

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<v Speaker 5>Unbelievable. I also think, I say unbelievable, but it's sort

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<v Speaker 5>of not. There's a lot in that that I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Is very relatable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you just busted a myth to me, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk about some of these in the episode.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll also put your photo on our Instagram account as well,

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<v Speaker 5>so if you can see that house that you do.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, So let's dive straight in. What do people

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<v Speaker 5>need to know before they start? So you know, for

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<v Speaker 5>some people, their side hustle might be obvious, like selling

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<v Speaker 5>something that they're good at making or doing. But for

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<v Speaker 5>other people, they might actually want to choose a side

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<v Speaker 5>hustle idea, So can you tell us is there sort

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<v Speaker 5>of a good versus bad thing to sell?

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<v Speaker 4>And then also what are some of the big.

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<v Speaker 5>Mistakes that people need to avoid when picking their idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I think choosing a side hustle. There's actually

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<v Speaker 6>this like weird ven diagrams that what they're called where

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<v Speaker 6>the circles all overlap and they look cute. So there's

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<v Speaker 6>a ven diagram and your side hustle has to sit

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<v Speaker 6>in the middle of this diagram, and if it does not,

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<v Speaker 6>you will fail and then your life will be over

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<v Speaker 6>and you'll cry and you won't do it again. So

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<v Speaker 6>we want to set you up to win. So it

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<v Speaker 6>has to be something that you love doing. So there's

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<v Speaker 6>things that make you money, but if you don't love

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<v Speaker 6>doing it, you can't keep doing it forever. When it

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<v Speaker 6>feels bad, when no one's listening, when no one's buying.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to love it. You have to be good

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<v Speaker 1>at it, obviously.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like, I'm not going to start a side hustle

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<v Speaker 6>in I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Bookkeeping, something financing. It's not my bibunting.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I did that. You might be

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<v Speaker 4>great with numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't am not I'm not great with numbers. So

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<v Speaker 6>it has to be something you love so you can

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<v Speaker 6>keep doing it forever. It has to be something that

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<v Speaker 6>you're good at so that you don't suck. And it

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<v Speaker 6>has to be something. And this is what people forget

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<v Speaker 6>that people will buy. Just because you love something doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>make it good. Just because you're good it's something doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>make it buyable. And just because people will buy it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean you can do it forever. So like I've

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<v Speaker 6>drawn tens of thousands of houses that can get boring,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to love it so I can keep going.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you can find something that sits in those

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<v Speaker 6>three areas, then you were onto a good idea. I've

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<v Speaker 6>had like over seven hundred students go through some of

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<v Speaker 6>my programs and they're always like, I get the diagram,

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<v Speaker 6>but how do I know my idea is going to work?

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<v Speaker 6>And there's two points that I want to make on

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<v Speaker 6>that you don't know. You've got to give it a go.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone gave it a go and kept going. And the

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<v Speaker 6>more you procrastinate on the idea, the further away you

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<v Speaker 6>were from finding that out. Action comes from confidence, so

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<v Speaker 6>you have to give it a go. But if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to test the waters, there's a thing I called

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<v Speaker 6>the Instagram expedition. If you can find one, two or

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<v Speaker 6>three other people doing it on the Internet, your idea

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<v Speaker 6>is not new, It is not that special.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay. If you can find someone else doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this because it aligns exactly with the advice

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<v Speaker 5>that Michelle gave in one of our episodes around things

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<v Speaker 5>to know about starting a business, which is there's always

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<v Speaker 5>someone else with the same idea, and that's actually a

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<v Speaker 5>good thing because it validates that there's a need for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Ondred percent I have personally taught like twenty other house drawers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like there's enough houses for everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>Community over competition, no one's going to be offended, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>don't go steal someone's IP. But if someone is doing

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<v Speaker 6>something that you want to do it just yeah, it

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<v Speaker 6>means it's viable.

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<v Speaker 5>Love it. And just to make it clear, this episode

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<v Speaker 5>is not just for artists. It could be anything that

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<v Speaker 5>you're selling. You've taught a lawyer, You've.

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<v Speaker 6>I taught it in my last cohort, I had a bookkeeper,

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<v Speaker 6>I had a therapist. So these strategies are just for ideation.

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<v Speaker 6>And for starting out any successful side hustle. The reason

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<v Speaker 6>they work for everyone is because setting up a business

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<v Speaker 6>is the same at the beginning stages.

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<v Speaker 1>Those functions are the same, no matter who you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Last question, then we'll move on to the steps that

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<v Speaker 5>you need to take to get started. But is there

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<v Speaker 5>any advice that you have around you know, physical product

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<v Speaker 5>versus digital product, or like something that's sort of low

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<v Speaker 5>effort and really scalable versus something that might be higher

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<v Speaker 5>effort but worth more value.

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<v Speaker 4>Any advice on that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>However, I think a lot of people start and they go,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to do something like a digital product, something

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<v Speaker 6>on demand so that it can be only twelve dollars,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's hundreds of people that want to buy twelve

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<v Speaker 6>dollars products. That's going to do really well. Not only

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<v Speaker 6>do I believe that's like the lazy way out. That's

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<v Speaker 6>why you're doing it. It is not easier to sell

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred twelve dollar products than it is to sell

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<v Speaker 6>one one hundred dollar product. It is just not easier.

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<v Speaker 6>You just have to sell that one hundred times. That

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<v Speaker 6>is way harder because to sell something is the same process.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to post on your Instagram, you have to

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<v Speaker 6>send the links, you have to write the invoices, you

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<v Speaker 6>have to do that. You just have to do that

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred times more. So you think that this is

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<v Speaker 6>low effort because it's low ticket or low value, but

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<v Speaker 6>the effort is the same. And when we're talking twelve

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<v Speaker 6>dollars versus one hundred dollars, there's a I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>call it the pocket theory. I completely made that up

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<v Speaker 6>on the spot, but it's I believe in the pocket

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<v Speaker 6>size of people. So a lot of my students, whether

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<v Speaker 6>they're bookkeepers, therapists, artists, creatives, designers, illustrators, they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm selling this thing. It's two hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to sell it for two hundred and see

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<v Speaker 6>if more people buy it. The pocket size of the

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<v Speaker 6>person that has two hundred dollars to spend on your

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<v Speaker 6>random thing has two hundred and fifty dollars to spend.

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<v Speaker 1>So pricing is not that simple.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the person that has eight hundred dollars to spend

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<v Speaker 6>on your random service has nine hundred and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 6>to spend on your random service. So you people get

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<v Speaker 6>in this scarcity mindset. That's what it is, and so

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<v Speaker 6>they try to make these cheap things thinking it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to work. Yeah, it's actually way harder. Even using you

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<v Speaker 6>know websites that are available to you Ebays, Etsy's, Creative Markets,

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<v Speaker 6>just those you know online marketplaces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, I just have to put it on

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<v Speaker 1>there and someone will buy it. But people have to

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<v Speaker 1>find you.

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<v Speaker 6>Whereas if you can focus on which we'll get to

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<v Speaker 6>in the steps, if you can focus on step one,

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<v Speaker 6>which is build your brand, you will stand out on

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<v Speaker 6>your own.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into the steps, then hit us step one.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, cool, so I believe, don't hate me. But to

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<v Speaker 6>begin a business, you have to build your brand, and

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<v Speaker 6>that first step might take us long as step two, three, four, five,

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<v Speaker 6>and six. The beginning phase is the hardest and it

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<v Speaker 6>takes a long time. That's the part where you need

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<v Speaker 6>grit and determination, and if you don't have that, don't

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<v Speaker 6>start a business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard out here.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I can attest. I'm just like crying on the inside.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so much harder. As my role in marketing, I

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<v Speaker 5>used to work with a lot of influencers and creators

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, ah, their jobs are so easy,

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<v Speaker 5>and I know how hard it is, but not to

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<v Speaker 5>put anyone off.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very effective as well.

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<v Speaker 5>You totally see how much success comes from putting yourself

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<v Speaker 5>out there online, so one.

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<v Speaker 6>Hundred percent, And it's so building a brand. To me

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<v Speaker 6>is the reason that you know the story I tell.

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<v Speaker 6>At the beginning, I was in the newspaper. I quit

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<v Speaker 6>my job. Like you said, there's things behind that that

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<v Speaker 6>retrospectively I can see happened. So I had made an

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<v Speaker 6>Instagram account. So it was actually Zara McDonald who wrote

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<v Speaker 6>the article. She was just leaving her job at Demain

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<v Speaker 6>at that time as well, which is really cool. She

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<v Speaker 6>posted something on Facebook saying I'm looking for real estate

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<v Speaker 6>gifts and I put my Instagram handle on there and

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<v Speaker 6>she found it. So she found the photo of me

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<v Speaker 6>and wrote the article. So if I hadn't had this

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<v Speaker 6>Instagram for five years talking to basically no one with

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<v Speaker 6>hundreds and hundreds of photos of my house drawings, she

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<v Speaker 6>might have seen that and gone not for me. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's building your brand.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait a second, So the first thing you did to

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<v Speaker 5>build your brand was open and Instagram The first thing

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<v Speaker 5>I did because it was free, interesting and you're saying

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<v Speaker 5>it took five years. Roughly, it doesn't have to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>But after five years, how many followers would you say

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<v Speaker 5>you had?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well I don't know after five years, but I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to say none, because twenty twenty three in April

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<v Speaker 6>I actually only had like seven thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting, So the point wasn't like blowing up. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>this is part of core brand building and like having

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<v Speaker 5>something you can point people to to kind of say

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<v Speaker 5>this is where I am, this is what I do.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so the person who can find you you

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<v Speaker 6>sees you as established, goes yep, that makes perfect sense

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<v Speaker 6>for this moment tick. And then when the article is written,

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<v Speaker 6>that could have been nothing if I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 6>website for people to purchase on. So you do have

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<v Speaker 6>to pay for your website subscriptions. You do have to

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<v Speaker 6>do that stuff, and it feels hard at the beginning

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<v Speaker 6>when you're like, feel like you're just spending money.

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<v Speaker 1>But those things matter all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So Instagram, handle, website, anything else people need.

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<v Speaker 1>You should get your ABN.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>If you were in Australia, it's different in all different

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<v Speaker 6>countries because that way you can have a dot au website,

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<v Speaker 6>which is nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>And before we move on to the nextcept, anything else

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<v Speaker 5>on that brand building?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, don't pay a designer to do you a logo.

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<v Speaker 6>Your friend that you want to give five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 6>to your graph done, friend doesn't want to do the job.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really annoyed by your question. One who I like this?

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<v Speaker 6>They are just good. I'm a designer, get real took.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't want to do it. They get frustrated by it,

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<v Speaker 6>and you don't need them to do it. So I

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<v Speaker 6>have something called like the fifteen minute brand template in Camber.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free.

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<v Speaker 6>You can find it all over everywhere that I am.

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<v Speaker 6>It teaches you to make a brand in fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta say I had never used Camber in my

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<v Speaker 5>life and started using it for my business and it's

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<v Speaker 5>so easy to learn and I use it like forty

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<v Speaker 5>times a day now.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, it's so easy.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is like it's a couple of colors, a logo,

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<v Speaker 6>You're done, move on. My business was named George Drew's

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<v Speaker 6>a House because someone one of my friends wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>write an article about me in Yend magazine for Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, what do I call you?

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, And then I looked to my sister

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<v Speaker 6>who was in the room, and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to be in a magazine. What am I

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<v Speaker 6>going to do? What do I call my business? And

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<v Speaker 6>she was like, oh, your name's Georgie draw Houses. Called

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<v Speaker 6>it George draws a house. And we moved right along

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<v Speaker 6>and I draw boats, I do courses, I do all

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<v Speaker 6>these other stuff now and it's still okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do have to name your business at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>To name your business.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in gre name website and like a logo

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<v Speaker 1>and Cotlors got it.

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<v Speaker 5>But donate to overthink it, but maybe put some thought

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<v Speaker 5>into it. Check for copyright, check that there aren't other

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<v Speaker 5>business names. We're at checking handles on Instagram to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so there's a few ways you can do that.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you go to register your business, it won't

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<v Speaker 6>let you. So I would do that part first. And

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<v Speaker 6>then if you go to Instagram and you know, sof

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<v Speaker 6>draws a House is not available, you can pop an

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<v Speaker 6>underscore at the end. You can pop a studio. It

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not an ip issue on Instagram, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>We're powering through the steps. What is next?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so next you need to build a website. So

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<v Speaker 6>that is you've built your brand, you build your website.

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<v Speaker 6>You can use squarespace. That's what I use, That's what

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<v Speaker 6>all my students use. You can get free templates.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 6>Takes a second, and it will do all your payments.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything will we process there and then you will never

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<v Speaker 6>do what I did, which is send people my bank

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<v Speaker 6>details through Instagram. Don't do that. That's step two. Step

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<v Speaker 6>three is you need to now level up your Instagram.

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<v Speaker 6>So you've had it, it exists, but you need to

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<v Speaker 6>start posting content consistently. Even if you you tear your

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<v Speaker 6>hair out and you think no one is listening, keep going, lady.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very important and by doing it all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll get to find your voice. So you build your brand,

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<v Speaker 6>build your website, then you live love your Instagram. The

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<v Speaker 6>next step is you need to I like to call

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<v Speaker 6>it demystify digital marketing. There's a lot of wonky terms,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of acronyms that are really difficult to understand.

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<v Speaker 6>Just start a newsletter. It's very simple. They call it

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<v Speaker 6>an EDM. It's just a newsletter start one use flow desk.

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<v Speaker 6>It is really affordable and really really beautiful and really

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<v Speaker 6>easy to use, and you can have your customers who

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<v Speaker 6>are purchasing through your square space automatically become email subscribers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my biggest regret not starting an email.

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<v Speaker 6>List sooner, because, like you said earlier, I was able

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<v Speaker 6>to send one email on the first of each month

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<v Speaker 6>to bring in ten thousand dollars every single month for

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<v Speaker 6>two years. It was a really good system. If I'd

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<v Speaker 6>built my email list earlier, that would have been a

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<v Speaker 6>lot more money.

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<v Speaker 5>Social media is like renting space, but your email list

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<v Speaker 5>is something that you own and you can take with

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<v Speaker 5>you wherever you go.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very important to be building that from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And a really good fact about that is engagement

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<v Speaker 6>levels on Instagram. Instagram, if you have one hundred followers,

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<v Speaker 6>it's likely to be seen by two of your followers, right.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have one hundred email subscribers, it is likely

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<v Speaker 6>that fifty percent of those people will open it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's fifty people. It's just way better.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a seventy five percent open rate on.

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<v Speaker 1>Jailers.

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<v Speaker 6>So you've built your brand, you've designed your website, you've

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<v Speaker 6>levered up your Instagram, you've demystified digital marketing, you've started

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<v Speaker 6>a newsletter. Then you need to drive it home. So

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<v Speaker 6>you need to figure out how to fit this side hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>Into your life without.

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<v Speaker 6>It taking over your life because it's a side hustle,

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<v Speaker 6>and so a side hustle exists in a good place

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<v Speaker 6>in your heart if it's something that's bringing you extra money,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's just bringing you more and who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 6>more money? As soon as it becomes this like stressful beast,

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<v Speaker 6>you just won't be able to sustain it. So you

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<v Speaker 6>need to work out how to do a really good

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<v Speaker 6>to do list and dedicate some time every week to

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<v Speaker 6>working on your business.

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<v Speaker 5>Give us more about how you manage your time. Then,

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<v Speaker 5>can you mentioned before you were starting early? Can you

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of give some advice to people around how

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<v Speaker 5>they can structure side hustle versus full time job versus

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<v Speaker 5>other stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, like the truth is it's hard, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>juggle is hot.

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<v Speaker 6>The juggle right now that I'm doing with a three

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<v Speaker 6>year old way harder just going to work when I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have a child and working on something I loved

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<v Speaker 6>at night, not that hard. It was a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a hard work on, so I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>pretend it wasn't. But yeah, that was fine. I would

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<v Speaker 6>wake up early to draw houses and stay up at

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<v Speaker 6>night to draw houses. Now I juggle that with a

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<v Speaker 6>child and three staff and running a studio and running

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<v Speaker 6>a whole design agency at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can do it. You just have to juggle.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I guess the point is once you start

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<v Speaker 5>making money, that's probably going to motivate you to keep

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<v Speaker 5>going percent just very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>Realistic timeline.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned it took you five years to go from

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<v Speaker 5>side hustle to quitting a full time job and that

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<v Speaker 5>being your main hustle.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that common? Can you give some advice around realistic

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<v Speaker 4>timelines for people?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it is definitely realistic to assume it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to take you five years. Those overnight success stories you

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<v Speaker 6>see are not those like you know you starting this podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like your whole life exists behind this before you

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<v Speaker 6>get to this moment. Like you, people just cherry pick

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<v Speaker 6>the moments and make it seem like that. I think

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<v Speaker 6>five years is totally reasonable. And also, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to start a business that's going to be your whole life.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you can't give it five years, you're not

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<v Speaker 6>going to be able to give your whole life. And

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<v Speaker 6>you really need to in order to scale it to

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<v Speaker 6>places where you because the real dream is everyone that

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<v Speaker 6>wanting to start a side hustle, I truly believe is

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<v Speaker 6>wanting to do something that they love and also wanting

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<v Speaker 6>to take control of their life. And to get to

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<v Speaker 6>that point where you're running a business where you don't

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<v Speaker 6>work Fridays and you have all summers off and you

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<v Speaker 6>can go on a holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that took me actually ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like it's so I think important to get that

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<v Speaker 5>message out to people.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have to tell your employer that you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a side hustle?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to?

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't, and then my employer did find out. My

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<v Speaker 6>first employer actually encourage my side hustle. My second employer

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<v Speaker 6>was not down. It's actually in your contract. In some

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<v Speaker 6>contracts you were not allowed to and you have to

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<v Speaker 6>read your contract to check. In my workplace, because starting

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<v Speaker 6>a side hustle change my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I try convince my.

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<v Speaker 6>Team to have side hustles because it's the best and

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<v Speaker 6>watching them, you know, make money here and they're doing

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<v Speaker 6>their things that they love, whether it's dancing or finance.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone loves that, just ask your employer. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes me want to come and work for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>wrapping this up, then side hustle to main hustle. Two

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<v Speaker 5>questions I have on this, when do you know when

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<v Speaker 5>it's time to sort of quit your job and go

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<v Speaker 5>all in? And then also the second question is when

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<v Speaker 5>do you know when maybe it's time to give up

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<v Speaker 5>and your side hustle isn't actually working.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good questions.

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<v Speaker 6>You will not be ready to go all in that

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<v Speaker 6>moment where everything is sorted and you're making the right

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<v Speaker 6>amount of money, It's probably not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I need to save twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 6>and match my income before I leave. But that was

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<v Speaker 6>an absurd thing to do and I wouldn't do that again.

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<v Speaker 6>I just was very risk adverse at the time. Now

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not so. I don't think that time is coming

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<v Speaker 6>for you. I think you need consistent income, like you

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<v Speaker 6>need to know that it's consistent, because you know, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to change your life will ruin your lifestyle

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<v Speaker 6>because then you're just going to go back to your job.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't maybe need to be as much as your

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<v Speaker 6>career income because it comes in different ways so you

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<v Speaker 6>have more access to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of when you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know if it's time to give up, that's a really epic,

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<v Speaker 6>difficult question to answer, and I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 6>anyone cry, But my students ask me this obviously, like

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<v Speaker 6>if they've been working really, really hard, Like one student

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<v Speaker 6>in particular is coming to mind, if you were doing

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<v Speaker 6>everything right, you were posting every day, you have your website,

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<v Speaker 6>you were asking people to purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not just posting things and hoping for the best.

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<v Speaker 6>If you were doing everything right, you've been building a

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<v Speaker 6>brand and no one is coming to you and you

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<v Speaker 6>are not able to knock on people's doors and get jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>If you can, one hundred percent, hand on your heart,

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<v Speaker 6>say you're doing all of that, then I would challenge

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<v Speaker 6>you to check that diagram. Is it something you love,

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<v Speaker 6>is it something you got at and is it something

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<v Speaker 6>people will buy? And maybe you've just missed it. Is

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<v Speaker 6>it something people will buy?

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<v Speaker 1>A push?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would say, maybe people just don't want what

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<v Speaker 5>you're making.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, and or maybe you're not marketing it correctly.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually I think it's a marketing thing. Yeah, Like you

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<v Speaker 6>can sell any like you see what people sell like.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a man he's amazing. He literally sells paintings

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<v Speaker 6>of fried eggs. Have you seen that guy? All he

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<v Speaker 6>does is he paints his wife's fried egg every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a really good paint touch and he just sells

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<v Speaker 1>fried eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a market for everything. Very last question.

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<v Speaker 5>One piece of advice that you wish someone gave you

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<v Speaker 5>before you started this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Dream jobs are made, not found. I love that, And

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<v Speaker 6>you can make it yourself and the ball is in

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<v Speaker 6>your foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 7>I was so impressed with that episode. So she sounds

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<v Speaker 7>like an absolute weapon, has achieved so much, and I

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<v Speaker 7>love that she's then built like another business off the

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<v Speaker 7>back of that, actually teaching other people how to do

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<v Speaker 7>the same thing. She's kind of given ever on the

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<v Speaker 7>gold standard of how to turn something that you're passionate about,

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<v Speaker 7>or a skill that you've got, or something that you

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<v Speaker 7>deeply love into something that could be a side hustle

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<v Speaker 7>and then your main hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>As you put it.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I want to.

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<v Speaker 7>Add, though, is that there are also so many ways

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<v Speaker 7>for you to make money online that actually I don't

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<v Speaker 7>involve you starting a business or having any real skills,

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<v Speaker 7>especially in today's world. You really just need the Internet

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<v Speaker 7>and a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love that you asked the.

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<v Speaker 7>Question around like how should you manage your time as well,

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<v Speaker 7>because I think that can also be applied to these

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<v Speaker 7>far simpler no barrier to entry. You don't need a brand,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't even need an abn way to make money.

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<v Speaker 7>So an example I wanted to give is I saw

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<v Speaker 7>this TikTok the other day where a woman had made

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<v Speaker 7>twenty four thousand US dollars in one month from uploading

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<v Speaker 7>the photos she already had in her iPhone album to

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<v Speaker 7>a stock image website. So the website she's using is

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<v Speaker 7>shut a stock and she'd made twenty four grand in

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<v Speaker 7>a month. It's passive income because you're being paid every

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<v Speaker 7>time someone wants to use your images. That's an example

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<v Speaker 7>where if you've just got some amazing photos in your album,

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<v Speaker 7>or you find yourself taking pictures anywhere and everywhere, you

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<v Speaker 7>could just be uploading those photos onto a stock website.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we're gonna put that TikTok in the show notes

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<v Speaker 5>because holy shit, yeah, what else? What other kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>businesses do you think are just like side hustle that

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<v Speaker 5>you only ever want to be your side hustle, you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to turn into your main hustle.

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<v Speaker 4>What else are people selling deep hop?

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<v Speaker 7>Like so many people make so much money just reselling

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<v Speaker 7>their clothes on deepop. And again this is like, you

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<v Speaker 7>don't need to spin up any infrastructure yourself. The infrastructure

0:25:36.770 --> 0:25:39.570
<v Speaker 7>already exists. You just join and need to dedicate a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of time to it.

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<v Speaker 4>But even like.

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<v Speaker 7>Sunroom for example, Like there are people in Sunroom who

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<v Speaker 7>don't define themselves as creators at all, Like they might

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<v Speaker 7>have a couple of thousand followers, but they've got a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of time, and they've got content, and they've got

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<v Speaker 7>people who are interested in them, and they're able to

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<v Speaker 7>make you know, a grand or two grand a month

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<v Speaker 7>that's covering their rent or covering their car insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Just from a couple of thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes really yeah yeah, So I also want to encourage

0:26:06.850 --> 0:26:11.770
<v Speaker 7>people to think about side hustles like broadly as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And it could be air Tasker.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all these different.

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<v Speaker 7>Ways that you can earn a bit of extra cash

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<v Speaker 7>on the side, especially in this economy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's almost anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard of people making tens of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a month, like selling hair clips or candles.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what does really well is digital pros.

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<v Speaker 5>On Etsy, so people who would do like name charts,

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<v Speaker 5>personalized name charts for kids, right, or like letter charts,

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<v Speaker 5>any kind of PDF printable thing that you sell the

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<v Speaker 5>digital file and then people can actually go and print

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<v Speaker 5>that at like an office works or something. That stuff

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<v Speaker 5>doing really well. And then templates templates for docks, so

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<v Speaker 5>like notion templates, Excel templates, like presentation templates. So if

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<v Speaker 5>you're handy with that stuff, it can be a good

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<v Speaker 5>one too.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I love this so SOF and I are going

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<v Speaker 7>to come up with a master list and we will

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<v Speaker 7>provide everyone with like some quick wins, easy ways to

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<v Speaker 7>make money that you could lickuly start doing today.

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<v Speaker 4>This is bad. It's making me want to quit the

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<v Speaker 4>business I'm doing now and just want to do something

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<v Speaker 4>easy like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Long term, it's probably not going to be fulfilling, but

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<v Speaker 5>if you need some quick cash maybe Okay, now I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to try shut a stock like this woman has

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<v Speaker 4>inspired me. Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>The other point I just want to add about how

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<v Speaker 5>incredible George's content is, like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>So we actually had a chat after the episode.

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<v Speaker 5>We went and spoke and I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 5>still don't understand how you do this with a kid.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that's interesting about her, She's just normal.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just like.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, and I just felt so encouraged to go and

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<v Speaker 5>make a bunch of money. And a lot of what

0:27:41.810 --> 0:27:45.010
<v Speaker 5>she does as well is she automates things. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think we maybe even will do a follow up episode

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<v Speaker 5>with her at some point around how she automates things

0:27:49.890 --> 0:27:52.610
<v Speaker 5>in her business, because that is a really big part

0:27:52.609 --> 0:27:54.530
<v Speaker 5>of it as well. If you want to learn more

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<v Speaker 5>from her, I think she covers all of this stuff

0:27:56.930 --> 0:28:00.209
<v Speaker 5>and goes really deep in her actual course, which is

0:28:00.290 --> 0:28:03.050
<v Speaker 5>called secret Artist Business. And we're going to put the

0:28:03.090 --> 0:28:05.330
<v Speaker 5>link to that in our newsletter and in the show

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<v Speaker 5>notes so you can catch up with her, but follow

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<v Speaker 5>her on Instagram as well. That's the best way to

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<v Speaker 5>find her. So that's Georgia draws a house on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>Love that she was incredible, So you need to be

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<v Speaker 5>on our newsletter email list, to get our five steps

0:28:18.090 --> 0:28:19.889
<v Speaker 5>that you need to actually start your side hustle and

0:28:19.930 --> 0:28:22.090
<v Speaker 5>turn into your main hustle. The list that Michelle and

0:28:22.130 --> 0:28:24.290
<v Speaker 5>I were just talking about about, you know, fastways that

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<v Speaker 5>you can have a side hustle and to get the

0:28:26.410 --> 0:28:28.050
<v Speaker 5>links to follow her as well. So just make sure

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<v Speaker 5>you're signed up to our newsletter, which is in the

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<v Speaker 5>show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing I loved most about this episode is

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<v Speaker 2>Howards showed two different parts. You can go all in

0:28:42.330 --> 0:28:45.410
<v Speaker 2>like Georgia and build something huge, or you can start

0:28:45.450 --> 0:28:48.890
<v Speaker 2>small with some simple hustle ideas like selling photos or

0:28:48.930 --> 0:28:51.850
<v Speaker 2>templates online. And if you want to see more from

0:28:51.930 --> 0:28:55.050
<v Speaker 2>Georgie's work, you can always follow her on Instagram at

0:28:55.090 --> 0:28:57.210
<v Speaker 2>Georgia draws a House or put all the links in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. She also has a sold out course

0:29:00.090 --> 0:29:02.610
<v Speaker 2>that helps people take the leap from side hustle to

0:29:02.690 --> 0:29:06.050
<v Speaker 2>full time hustle, and it's opening up for the next intakes.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put a link to all of that in our

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<v Speaker 2>show notes, and while you're there in our show notes,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you're signed up to our newsletter. Because this week,

0:29:14.090 --> 0:29:16.690
<v Speaker 2>Mish and SOF are sharing their list of side hustle

0:29:16.770 --> 0:29:20.570
<v Speaker 2>businesses that won't take over your life. Plus George is

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<v Speaker 2>giving us her ten simple automations that will save you

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<v Speaker 2>ten hours. I will catch you on Thursday for Biz Inbox.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye Mamma.

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<v Speaker 2>Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that

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