WEBVTT - A Dire Warning From Rebel Wilson 0:00:11.424 --> 0:00:16.024 You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 0:00:16.144 --> 0:00:19.624 the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 0:00:19.704 --> 0:00:27.184 is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the spill 0:00:27.224 --> 0:00:30.344 your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm 0:00:30.424 --> 0:00:33.784 m Vernon And today we have a very serious warning 0:00:33.784 --> 0:00:36.864 from Rebel Wilson. She posted overnight. They have been allegations, 0:00:37.104 --> 0:00:38.864 there have been comebacks. We're going to get into that. 0:00:39.224 --> 0:00:41.984 Plus we have some dire information about a movie that 0:00:42.064 --> 0:00:44.664 I was desperately looking forward to. Not sure how I'm 0:00:44.664 --> 0:00:47.024 going to make it through today, but first we'll get 0:00:47.064 --> 0:00:47.464 through it. 0:00:47.904 --> 0:00:51.944 But first, we finally have the official trailer to Ridley 0:00:52.024 --> 0:00:55.064 Scott's Gladiator Too, starring Paul mescal. 0:00:56.744 --> 0:00:57.944 I remember that day. 0:01:00.104 --> 0:01:04.184 I never forgot it that a slave could take revenge 0:01:04.224 --> 0:01:05.144 against an emperor. 0:01:07.264 --> 0:01:09.144 Where were you born? I don't know. 0:01:10.384 --> 0:01:11.784 I never knew a mother and law father. 0:01:12.984 --> 0:01:14.224 You will be my instrument. 0:01:15.024 --> 0:01:17.424 Who are you? Did you hear that crowd? 0:01:19.544 --> 0:01:21.784 The greatest temple room. 0:01:21.584 --> 0:01:26.504 Ever built, the Carlosseum, Because this is what they believe 0:01:26.544 --> 0:01:30.824 in power. I've convinced everyone here in spill Land to 0:01:31.424 --> 0:01:33.664 let me do a little recap of the trailer. 0:01:33.664 --> 0:01:34.944 Pea, I'm quite nervous about this. 0:01:35.024 --> 0:01:37.744 I think I've watched it around twenty three times really, 0:01:37.824 --> 0:01:39.744 and it only came out like what last night. 0:01:39.984 --> 0:01:41.424 Yeah, I've watched it a lot. 0:01:41.824 --> 0:01:43.504 A little tip if you're going to watch the trailer, 0:01:43.544 --> 0:01:47.584 watch you with subtitles on, because surprisingly it's really hard 0:01:47.624 --> 0:01:50.984 to understand angry men yelling while they kill each other. 0:01:51.264 --> 0:01:53.584 Oh, I just assume that there's a plot that'll come 0:01:53.584 --> 0:01:55.544 to me later. I was just watching The Violins and 0:01:55.584 --> 0:01:56.224 I was loving it. 0:01:56.704 --> 0:01:59.904 So the start of the trailer, it flashes back to 0:01:59.944 --> 0:02:02.424 Gladiator one, so you're like, oh, yep, this is definitely 0:02:02.464 --> 0:02:05.424 a sequel. It shows Paul mescal as a young boy 0:02:05.704 --> 0:02:09.504 who saw quote a slave take revenge on an emperor, 0:02:10.104 --> 0:02:12.904 and then it jumps into the actual trailer of the movie. 0:02:13.304 --> 0:02:16.424 So Paul his character. Okay, firstly, I'm not sure what 0:02:16.504 --> 0:02:18.624 his name is because they don't say each other's names. 0:02:18.784 --> 0:02:24.144 We're just calling the gladiator a very strong gladiator name, Paul. 0:02:24.304 --> 0:02:26.384 He doesn't know much about his past. He doesn't know 0:02:26.424 --> 0:02:29.184 who his mom or father is, and I think that's 0:02:29.184 --> 0:02:32.264 going to be a common theme throughout the entire film. 0:02:32.624 --> 0:02:36.264 You don't see Pedro Pascal, so straight away moves were 0:02:36.304 --> 0:02:39.144 just calling him Pedro Theater. He's the leader of the 0:02:39.224 --> 0:02:40.144 Roman army. 0:02:40.304 --> 0:02:40.784 Oh sure. 0:02:41.104 --> 0:02:43.584 You first see him on this carriage like being led 0:02:43.584 --> 0:02:45.704 by horses, and he's like waving to the crowd, kind 0:02:45.704 --> 0:02:47.864 of like that scene in Hunger Games where she's wearing 0:02:47.944 --> 0:02:50.704 the dress and they're waving, and then there's a lot 0:02:50.704 --> 0:02:53.904 of fighting and killing scenes. That's a like ongoing motive 0:02:53.984 --> 0:02:57.304 throughout this entire trailer. There's a very sexy line from 0:02:57.304 --> 0:03:00.784 Denzel Washington where he tells Paul, you have something in you. 0:03:02.064 --> 0:03:04.504 Was he meant to be sexy? It was not meant 0:03:04.544 --> 0:03:05.504 to be sexy? 0:03:06.024 --> 0:03:09.104 A lot of subtext, I think whenever Denzel Washington says anything, 0:03:09.224 --> 0:03:09.824 it's sexy. 0:03:09.984 --> 0:03:10.624 Kind hell bit. 0:03:10.744 --> 0:03:13.344 Paul is then seen crying, and then he is angry, 0:03:13.384 --> 0:03:15.704 and then he's covered in blood. He is told that 0:03:15.784 --> 0:03:17.864 his rage is a gift, which makes me worry that 0:03:17.864 --> 0:03:19.504 they're promoting toxic masculinity. 0:03:20.944 --> 0:03:22.144 But it's fine because. 0:03:21.904 --> 0:03:24.504 Then there's a scene where he's running and he's running 0:03:24.544 --> 0:03:26.944 really weirdly, which is confusing because you would think he 0:03:26.984 --> 0:03:28.944 has experience in running, since he runs from all of 0:03:28.944 --> 0:03:31.584 his girlfriends Paul Mescilline real life, not Paul the Gladiator. 0:03:31.584 --> 0:03:33.264 I'm sorry, I'm jumping to real life. But in the 0:03:33.344 --> 0:03:35.984 trailer he's running kind of like a Fortnight character. 0:03:36.024 --> 0:03:38.344 His arms are very high, and they didn't teach her 0:03:38.344 --> 0:03:39.464 in glady at a training school. 0:03:39.504 --> 0:03:40.904 No, I don't think they should have included that either, 0:03:40.904 --> 0:03:43.744 because immediately gave me the eck. There's a rhino, which 0:03:43.744 --> 0:03:45.624 is fine because back then they weren't in danger, so 0:03:45.624 --> 0:03:47.824 they're like, they are allowed to use of rhinos. 0:03:48.024 --> 0:03:49.704 Everyone's like, hey, well, let it go for the point 0:03:49.704 --> 0:03:51.464 of the movie, but don't kill actual rhinos. 0:03:51.784 --> 0:03:55.224 Denzel comes back with more interesting questions. He asked Paul, 0:03:55.464 --> 0:03:57.744 whose head should I give you to satisfy this fury. 0:03:58.024 --> 0:04:02.104 Paul replies, the entire Roman Empire. Denzel giggled, but Paul 0:04:02.184 --> 0:04:06.064 was not joking. Denzil'sn't a different movie. He's in a 0:04:06.064 --> 0:04:08.984 bit of a rom com. He's in a classic Roman empire. 0:04:08.984 --> 0:04:12.024 I'm laughing quite a bit through this entire trailer. I 0:04:12.024 --> 0:04:14.384 think Denzel's character is the guy who kind of makes 0:04:14.424 --> 0:04:15.464 all the gladiators happen. 0:04:15.544 --> 0:04:17.224 Oh sure, because they're all slaves. 0:04:16.864 --> 0:04:18.504 And then they make them into gladiators, and then once 0:04:18.544 --> 0:04:20.584 they're gladiators, then they win, they become free men. 0:04:20.624 --> 0:04:22.824 I think that's hard. That's a job that doesn't exist anymore. 0:04:22.864 --> 0:04:24.344 That's sad. It is really sad. 0:04:24.384 --> 0:04:26.864 But then they both settle that as long as Paul 0:04:26.984 --> 0:04:29.824 ends up killing Pedro Pascal, that would be fine and enough. 0:04:29.904 --> 0:04:31.984 So the end scene is him about to get into 0:04:32.024 --> 0:04:33.824 the arena with Pedro Pascal. 0:04:34.264 --> 0:04:36.784 It ends there, and then Pedro and Paul duke it out. 0:04:36.984 --> 0:04:38.864 I don't want you to learn their names, by the way, 0:04:39.064 --> 0:04:40.584 when we watch the movie, I want you just to 0:04:40.664 --> 0:04:42.184 refer to them as their gladiat Yeah. 0:04:42.224 --> 0:04:43.384 I thought there was a bit of a plothole in 0:04:43.424 --> 0:04:46.984 the trailer that no names. There was absolutely no name said. 0:04:47.144 --> 0:04:50.424 I did see though, that he gets Maximus's ring. Oh, 0:04:50.584 --> 0:04:51.744 Russell Crowe's ring, So. 0:04:51.664 --> 0:04:53.544 I think that's a nice quarterback the three line from 0:04:53.544 --> 0:04:55.304 the first movie, because I don't think Russell Crowe is 0:04:55.344 --> 0:04:58.264 going to be fighting anyone in this movie alone for 0:04:58.304 --> 0:05:01.024 the first one fast, I think he's past a fighting 0:05:01.344 --> 0:05:02.424 ghost isn't going to appear. 0:05:02.664 --> 0:05:05.264 But yeah, that's Gladiator too. I feel like you don't 0:05:05.264 --> 0:05:06.544 need to watch it that I think I've given you 0:05:06.704 --> 0:05:07.104 the gist. 0:05:07.424 --> 0:05:09.024 I mean, you're giving up your ticket to the premiere. 0:05:09.064 --> 0:05:11.104 Don't even say that as if you'd actually say that 0:05:11.104 --> 0:05:13.664 out loud. I cannot wait for the premier. Not sure 0:05:13.664 --> 0:05:15.864 if I'll get a ticket, but if I do, it 0:05:15.904 --> 0:05:17.904 will literally be the best thing that's ever happened to 0:05:17.904 --> 0:05:20.384 me in my tie life. So Gladiator Too will be 0:05:20.544 --> 0:05:22.864 out on November fourteen. You might remember it's also the 0:05:22.904 --> 0:05:25.584 same date as Wicked. Yeah, so we're going to be 0:05:25.584 --> 0:05:28.024 watching both one hundred percent both. They're both for women. 0:05:28.064 --> 0:05:30.264 I'm so sick of just any like for the girls. Yeah, 0:05:30.264 --> 0:05:32.344 exactly for people being like, oh, women go to Wicked, 0:05:32.344 --> 0:05:34.064 women go to and boys will go to gladiat I 0:05:34.144 --> 0:05:35.864 know we're going to both going to both see there. 0:05:37.904 --> 0:05:40.944 In a feature interview with The New Yorker, Lena Dunham 0:05:40.984 --> 0:05:44.344 announced that she is wait for it, no longer working 0:05:44.464 --> 0:05:45.904 on the upcoming Pollpocket. 0:05:46.184 --> 0:05:47.664 It's like a knife through my heart. 0:05:47.864 --> 0:05:50.464 Oh. She said that she had been brought on as 0:05:50.464 --> 0:05:52.744 a writer and director of the film and she spent 0:05:52.824 --> 0:05:55.384 three years working on it, but this was the announcement 0:05:55.384 --> 0:05:57.424 in which you'd said I'm no longer doing it. In 0:05:57.464 --> 0:06:00.064 the interview, she said I'm going to tell you something 0:06:00.064 --> 0:06:02.664 here that I haven't told anyone. I'm not going to 0:06:02.704 --> 0:06:06.024 make the Pollypocket movie. I think Greta Goerwick managed this 0:06:06.064 --> 0:06:08.624 incredible feat with Barbie, which was to make this thing 0:06:08.664 --> 0:06:11.544 that was literally candy to so many different kinds of people. 0:06:12.184 --> 0:06:14.024 Unless I can do it that way, I'm not going 0:06:14.064 --> 0:06:15.984 to do it. I don't think I have it in me. 0:06:16.424 --> 0:06:18.384 I feel like the next movie I make needs to 0:06:18.424 --> 0:06:20.944 feel like a movie that I absolutely have to make. 0:06:21.384 --> 0:06:23.064 No one but me could make it, and I think 0:06:23.144 --> 0:06:27.784 other people could make Pollypocket. That hurts when I read that, 0:06:27.864 --> 0:06:31.144 because I think I'm not done with the whole Barbie 0:06:31.184 --> 0:06:34.504 Like I kind of miss everything that happened with Barbie, 0:06:34.504 --> 0:06:37.384 like how every woman got dressed up to go watch it. 0:06:37.384 --> 0:06:39.264 It became this big thing. I was going to parties 0:06:39.304 --> 0:06:41.864 that were all Barbie themed, like it was just beautiful 0:06:41.904 --> 0:06:44.944 seeing all the actresses together, like, get around it. Ryan 0:06:44.984 --> 0:06:47.224 Goslin got around it. And I kind of missed that 0:06:47.344 --> 0:06:50.104 girlhood moment in cinema, and that's what I was waiting 0:06:50.144 --> 0:06:50.984 for for Polly Pocketing. 0:06:51.104 --> 0:06:53.504 Yeah, and I definitely thought Polypocket was going to be 0:06:53.584 --> 0:06:55.784 in that same realm as Barbie and the difference to 0:06:55.824 --> 0:06:57.224 a lot of those movies that were all of a 0:06:57.264 --> 0:06:59.744 sudden put into production, like the Uno movie or the 0:06:59.744 --> 0:07:02.664 Betsy Wetsy movie. God give Me strength, all these movies 0:07:02.704 --> 0:07:04.984 that will put into production as a result of Barbie, 0:07:05.384 --> 0:07:07.064 with like a lot of studios just trying to cash 0:07:07.064 --> 0:07:09.264 in on like, oh, people want to see movies about toys. 0:07:09.424 --> 0:07:12.024 Polly Pocket movie wasn't that. It's been in development for 0:07:12.064 --> 0:07:15.024 a really long time. Barbie was in development first before 0:07:15.024 --> 0:07:17.384 the casting of Barbie, before Greta came on or anything 0:07:17.424 --> 0:07:19.664 like that. It's been in production for such long time. 0:07:19.904 --> 0:07:22.304 And people were so excited when Lena Dunham came on 0:07:22.384 --> 0:07:25.344 to write and direct, because she's an amazing scriptwriter and 0:07:25.344 --> 0:07:27.224 she has a really unique voice and point of view, 0:07:27.464 --> 0:07:29.344 and everyone was like, this is so exciting to have 0:07:29.424 --> 0:07:31.824 like a quintessential elder millennial. I say that as an 0:07:31.824 --> 0:07:34.264 elder millennial myself, come on and take a toy that 0:07:34.384 --> 0:07:36.664 was so important to us growing up and give it 0:07:36.704 --> 0:07:39.624 this whole new life and make it really smart and 0:07:39.704 --> 0:07:43.024 funny and also visually stunning, which I think. Just imagine 0:07:43.064 --> 0:07:46.664 a live action Polypocket with practical effects of her like 0:07:46.744 --> 0:07:50.144 living and she goes into little different Polypocket worlds the 0:07:50.264 --> 0:07:52.784 dream and now I feel like the movie will still 0:07:52.784 --> 0:07:54.704 get made, but it'll probably now just go back into 0:07:54.744 --> 0:07:57.824 development hell where they try and find another writer, producer, 0:07:57.944 --> 0:07:59.944 like it takes so long to make a movie. And 0:07:59.984 --> 0:08:03.144 what's time sensitive about this is that Lily Collins, Emily 0:08:03.184 --> 0:08:08.024 in Paris herself, was attached to play Polypocket and she great, 0:08:08.624 --> 0:08:10.944 She would do great. She looks like Pollpocket, she's vibe 0:08:10.984 --> 0:08:13.744 of Pollypocket, and she can do that ditzy, lovable thing 0:08:13.904 --> 0:08:16.384 really well. But the thing is that she's already in 0:08:16.384 --> 0:08:18.584 her kind of like early to mid thirties, which is 0:08:18.584 --> 0:08:21.064 a perfectly fine time to play Pollypocket. But she needs 0:08:21.064 --> 0:08:22.544 to play it now. But if we push this movie 0:08:22.544 --> 0:08:25.744 out another ten years, then I just worry that Lily 0:08:25.784 --> 0:08:28.744 Collins is gonna get pushed aside. No, And so I 0:08:28.824 --> 0:08:30.784 just I'm just worried for the fate of movies. I'm 0:08:30.824 --> 0:08:33.104 worried for us and like you said, like another girlhood 0:08:33.144 --> 0:08:34.824 movie experience pushed aside. 0:08:34.944 --> 0:08:37.344 It's so interesting because we were talking about this in 0:08:37.384 --> 0:08:41.024 our meeting, and we don't have an example of any 0:08:41.144 --> 0:08:43.504 male director who'd ever do the same thing like I 0:08:43.544 --> 0:08:46.824 can't even imagine a male director going, oh, but Steven 0:08:46.864 --> 0:08:48.704 Spielsberg did it so well, and I don't think I 0:08:48.704 --> 0:08:49.944 could do it as well as that, So I'm just 0:08:49.984 --> 0:08:50.464 not gonna do. 0:08:50.504 --> 0:08:52.464 It, I know. I think it's because there's this backstory 0:08:52.504 --> 0:08:54.664 attached to any woman who comes in and like writes 0:08:54.664 --> 0:08:57.024 a big movie or directs it, and it's this idea 0:08:57.104 --> 0:08:59.064 of like, well, if she doesn't do it well or 0:08:59.224 --> 0:09:00.944 there's something and that is attached to this idea that 0:09:01.024 --> 0:09:03.584 maybe women can't direct movies because you've got to think 0:09:03.584 --> 0:09:05.024 that the people who are behind this is a very 0:09:05.064 --> 0:09:08.104 old school, mostly older white men, And that was the 0:09:08.104 --> 0:09:10.104 whole thing about even like don't worry Darling with Olivia 0:09:10.104 --> 0:09:12.784 whe why so many people will like stop these headlines 0:09:13.104 --> 0:09:15.744 because they were so worried that it would tarnish all 0:09:15.864 --> 0:09:18.984 female directors, even though men are way more emotional most 0:09:19.024 --> 0:09:21.264 of the time the stories that come out. But I 0:09:21.304 --> 0:09:23.304 think it's something that we hear women say in public, 0:09:23.344 --> 0:09:25.704 but men not as much. And like a prime example 0:09:25.744 --> 0:09:28.184 I think is like Jennifer Lawrence was all set to 0:09:28.344 --> 0:09:30.304 star as Elizabeth Holmes, know, the woman who did the 0:09:30.384 --> 0:09:33.424 fraud theerrnose defraud to people all the money and stuff. 0:09:33.464 --> 0:09:35.984 And then when she got asked about playing that role 0:09:36.024 --> 0:09:37.944 that was such a big hype up around it, she 0:09:38.024 --> 0:09:40.864 said that she had watched Amanda Seafreed in the Dropout 0:09:40.944 --> 0:09:42.664 series that she won awards for, and she's like, I 0:09:42.704 --> 0:09:44.344 watched that and was like, no, she did it, like 0:09:44.424 --> 0:09:46.824 she did everything. She was amazing. There's I can't compare 0:09:46.864 --> 0:09:48.584 to that. So I think that that's the thing of 0:09:48.664 --> 0:09:51.624 women are like, oh, only one person gets a shot. 0:09:51.704 --> 0:09:56.304 Which sucks because I'd love some competition with female directors. 0:09:56.304 --> 0:10:00.424 But it's also so telling that women, especially women directors, 0:10:00.744 --> 0:10:03.184 see someone like Greta and it's like that is a 0:10:03.264 --> 0:10:06.824 standard for women directors. But with male directors it's like 0:10:06.864 --> 0:10:09.184 they see like a Steven Spielberg and they're like, that's 0:10:09.184 --> 0:10:12.704 the standard for all directs. Yeah, Like it's so frustrating 0:10:12.784 --> 0:10:15.504 that Greta can't be seen as a standard for all directors. 0:10:15.504 --> 0:10:16.184 It's only women. 0:10:16.424 --> 0:10:19.744 Yeah, exactly. There's so many incredible scriptwriters and directors out 0:10:19.784 --> 0:10:21.784 there that are women. I hope one of them comes 0:10:21.864 --> 0:10:23.824 in and it has to be a woman, oh one 0:10:23.904 --> 0:10:25.904 hundred percent. I mean never say never. They can get 0:10:25.944 --> 0:10:28.744 a man to write Pollypocket, but I'm hoping another amazing 0:10:28.784 --> 0:10:30.704 female director is going to come in and like make 0:10:30.784 --> 0:10:31.704 this a big blockbuster. 0:10:32.064 --> 0:10:33.064 Bit wow, let's go. 0:10:35.504 --> 0:10:38.624 So last night about twelve thirty am Australian time, which 0:10:38.664 --> 0:10:41.384 is the time I saw this video go up that time, Oh, 0:10:41.504 --> 0:10:43.304 because I was prepping for the spill on something that 0:10:43.344 --> 0:10:47.304 we'll talk about. On Friday, Rebel Wilson posted a very 0:10:47.344 --> 0:10:50.624 serious video to her Instagram page where she gave a 0:10:50.624 --> 0:10:52.024 bit of an update on the fate of her new 0:10:52.064 --> 0:10:54.864 Australian movie. And to explain this, I'm just going to 0:10:55.024 --> 0:10:58.864 use the headline that Deadline ran with because they kind 0:10:58.904 --> 0:11:02.584 of really summed it up by saying, Rebel Wilson Warops 0:11:02.864 --> 0:11:05.944 backs of her directing debut, the deb from nixing Pick 0:11:06.024 --> 0:11:08.944 from Toronto. So basically, I just thought Warps was a 0:11:08.984 --> 0:11:11.184 good who was a great one. It's actually what she 0:11:11.224 --> 0:11:14.184 did and episode. So basically, she put out a video 0:11:14.304 --> 0:11:17.104 explaining that this movie that she's been directing called The Dead, 0:11:17.144 --> 0:11:19.624 which is kind of an astray musical, amazing cast, a 0:11:19.624 --> 0:11:21.744 lot of people are very excited to see. It had 0:11:21.744 --> 0:11:24.224 been selected as the closing night film at the Toronto 0:11:24.304 --> 0:11:27.304 Film Festival. That's a bit. It's huge if you're making 0:11:27.304 --> 0:11:29.504 a movie, especially like maybe a kind of small indie 0:11:29.504 --> 0:11:32.784 movie like this, Having that kind of exposure is huge 0:11:32.784 --> 0:11:35.024 for the movie, it's huge for the cast. Well, it 0:11:35.104 --> 0:11:37.824 is a make or break situation people seeing this movie. 0:11:38.064 --> 0:11:39.944 And then she put out a video saying that the 0:11:39.984 --> 0:11:43.144 movie has now been blocked from appearing at the Film Festival. 0:11:43.304 --> 0:11:44.744 But it's nothing to do with the people in the 0:11:44.744 --> 0:11:47.904 film Festival. It's her business partners. It's the other producers 0:11:47.944 --> 0:11:50.664 on the film that she says are trying to sabotage her. 0:11:51.064 --> 0:11:53.744 Why are they saying this, Why are they stopping it 0:11:53.824 --> 0:11:58.984 from premarying at Toronto? Well, this dates back to October 0:11:59.024 --> 0:12:04.184 of last year, where I discovered bad behavior by these 0:12:04.224 --> 0:12:07.584 business partners. And let me just you know, I just 0:12:07.624 --> 0:12:08.944 tell it how it is. So I'm just going to 0:12:08.944 --> 0:12:13.144 tell you who they are. They are so called producers 0:12:13.424 --> 0:12:16.224 of the film. I use that phrase very lightly. Their 0:12:16.304 --> 0:12:21.184 names are Amanda Ghost and Gregor Cameron, and an executive 0:12:21.184 --> 0:12:25.424 producer who works with them called Vince Holden. So these 0:12:25.424 --> 0:12:33.544 are the people involved. And so I said, reported, I 0:12:33.544 --> 0:12:36.744 guess you would say they're bad behavior. When I found 0:12:36.784 --> 0:12:42.344 out not minor things, big things, inappropriate behavior towards the 0:12:42.424 --> 0:12:46.744 lead actress of the film, embezzling funds from the film's budget, 0:12:47.264 --> 0:12:49.424 which we really needed because we were a small movie, 0:12:49.744 --> 0:12:55.104 so kind of really important things. Since I reported that behavior, 0:12:56.064 --> 0:13:01.744 I have been met with absolute viciousness and retaliatory behavior. 0:13:02.504 --> 0:13:05.584 So I'm there on set, I'm trying to film my 0:13:05.704 --> 0:13:08.744 movie with my gorgeous Australian cast and crew who are 0:13:08.744 --> 0:13:11.184 so amazing, shout out to all of you guys. And 0:13:11.304 --> 0:13:14.744 yet every step of the way, these people who I 0:13:14.784 --> 0:13:18.584 complained about then tried to make my life hell. In 0:13:18.624 --> 0:13:21.544 the meantime, though I still finished the movie. I made 0:13:21.544 --> 0:13:26.144 this great movie, the deb and then now you know, 0:13:26.384 --> 0:13:29.704 almost at the finish line, they're saying, you know, it 0:13:29.744 --> 0:13:32.264 can't come out. They might not release it, they might 0:13:32.344 --> 0:13:35.664 bury it. This is work of hundreds of people who 0:13:35.704 --> 0:13:39.144 have put their heart and soul into this, and this 0:13:39.264 --> 0:13:42.744 behavior is absolutely vile and disgusting. 0:13:43.064 --> 0:13:46.944 Oh my god, that is insane. I can't believe she 0:13:46.984 --> 0:13:49.544 did that. Like, I mean, good on her for doing that, 0:13:50.024 --> 0:13:53.264 but I'm a bit confused. So before she did the 0:13:53.344 --> 0:13:56.904 video her she was saying these producers that she reported 0:13:56.904 --> 0:14:00.864 for bad behavior wanted to stop the movie from premiering 0:14:01.144 --> 0:14:04.224 at the Toronto Festival. What would that have achieved. 0:14:04.504 --> 0:14:06.304 It's hard to sort of say what's something behind the scenes. 0:14:06.344 --> 0:14:09.784 Whether it was something to do with distribution, legal things, licensing, 0:14:09.824 --> 0:14:12.784 I'm not quite sure because up until now, apart from 0:14:12.904 --> 0:14:14.864 the fact of people knowing this movie was getting made 0:14:14.904 --> 0:14:16.624 and knowing that it's got this greater straining cast and 0:14:16.664 --> 0:14:19.264 that Rebel was directing, it's not one of those movies 0:14:19.264 --> 0:14:21.584 where we were like following every update and waiting for 0:14:21.624 --> 0:14:23.424 trailers and stuff. So this is really the first time 0:14:23.464 --> 0:14:25.464 a lot of people are hearing about that movie. And 0:14:25.464 --> 0:14:27.544 I should say the three people that she's named have 0:14:27.624 --> 0:14:31.024 come back through a sportsperson with their own take on 0:14:31.064 --> 0:14:35.664 the story. So they've said Rebel Wilson's allegations are false, defamatory, 0:14:35.704 --> 0:14:39.264 and disappointing. So that's from Amanda Ghost and Gogory Cameron 0:14:39.304 --> 0:14:43.144 and executive producer of the film Vince Holden or executive producers. 0:14:42.744 --> 0:14:44.464 Executive Oh my gosh, I. 0:14:44.424 --> 0:14:46.784 Don't say that lightly. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, she's 0:14:46.864 --> 0:14:50.384 she's angry, they say her self. Promotional claims are clearly 0:14:50.424 --> 0:14:54.064 intended to cause reputational harm to individuals who have supported 0:14:54.064 --> 0:14:57.144 her directional debut film, The deb a joyous movie that 0:14:57.184 --> 0:14:59.304 we're very proud of and are looking forward to sharing 0:14:59.304 --> 0:15:02.304 with audiences. For her to promote a false narrative to 0:15:02.344 --> 0:15:05.384 advance her own agenda undermines the film and all the 0:15:05.384 --> 0:15:07.264 people who worked on this project, but. 0:15:07.264 --> 0:15:10.344 They didn't admit to wanting to pause it for the film. 0:15:11.184 --> 0:15:12.024 That's very true. 0:15:12.144 --> 0:15:14.024 I feel like this is going to get so messy. 0:15:14.424 --> 0:15:17.384 And I also think, just watching that video now, like 0:15:17.464 --> 0:15:19.544 I didn't hear anything about this film. I had no 0:15:19.584 --> 0:15:21.064 idea she was directing. I had no idea it was 0:15:21.064 --> 0:15:23.464 an Australian film or a musical. I didn't even know 0:15:23.544 --> 0:15:25.784 what was happening. And now all I can think about 0:15:25.864 --> 0:15:27.744 is I cannot wait to watch this for a minute 0:15:27.784 --> 0:15:28.024 it comes. 0:15:28.184 --> 0:15:30.664 That's what all the comments under the Instagram post like, well, 0:15:30.704 --> 0:15:32.224 I saw her post it last night, and then all 0:15:32.224 --> 0:15:34.104 of a sudden, all these comments started flooding in, with 0:15:34.144 --> 0:15:36.744 people saying like thanking her for speaking up and saying 0:15:36.744 --> 0:15:38.264 that she was doing good things, and so many people 0:15:38.424 --> 0:15:40.344 being like I can't wait to see this movie now. 0:15:40.544 --> 0:15:42.464 So obviously we don't know what's happened behind the scenes. 0:15:42.464 --> 0:15:44.944 But I think what's interesting here is that as much 0:15:44.944 --> 0:15:47.904 as we see people on Rebel's own page, like her followers, 0:15:48.184 --> 0:15:50.304 being really supportive and sending messages to out I'm going 0:15:50.344 --> 0:15:52.824 to go see this film, there's another big chorus of 0:15:52.904 --> 0:15:55.184 voices out there today because of this story's being picked 0:15:55.264 --> 0:15:57.584 up worldwide. Every outlet's covering it. They're all posting about 0:15:57.584 --> 0:15:59.984 it of people saying like, Oh, she's so difficult, she 0:16:00.024 --> 0:16:02.144 has a problem with everyone she works with, she hates everyone. 0:16:02.184 --> 0:16:04.784 She's all about public shaming, I mean, without being able 0:16:04.824 --> 0:16:06.064 to get too the nuance of what happened in this 0:16:06.104 --> 0:16:08.624 film because we weren't there. I do think that's quite true, 0:16:08.624 --> 0:16:11.824 because they're obviously linking it to her memoir, Rebel Rising, 0:16:11.904 --> 0:16:14.464 Coming Out and allegations that were in that book, but 0:16:14.504 --> 0:16:17.544 particularly that whole Sasha Baron Cohen's story that blew up 0:16:17.624 --> 0:16:21.504 so much, and her making allegations about him being inappropriate 0:16:21.504 --> 0:16:24.744 on set and then him coming back with legal threats 0:16:24.744 --> 0:16:27.184 against her, which ended up with the books and Australa. 0:16:27.224 --> 0:16:28.824 Now if you open to the pages about him, it's 0:16:28.864 --> 0:16:31.704 just black lines reducted. Even though we all read the 0:16:31.784 --> 0:16:33.984 chapter in a different place, But I feel like that 0:16:34.104 --> 0:16:37.024 shouldn't have any bearing on what's happened here, if anything. 0:16:37.064 --> 0:16:38.664 Like she I think she acknowledges it in the back 0:16:38.704 --> 0:16:40.824 of that video too, because she's like, you know me, 0:16:40.984 --> 0:16:42.864 I will call this out. I won't stand for it. 0:16:43.144 --> 0:16:45.024 And I was like, well, yeah, she said after the 0:16:45.064 --> 0:16:48.224 Sasha Baron Cohen allegations, She's like, I will never put 0:16:48.264 --> 0:16:50.624 myself in that situation again. I'll always call it out, 0:16:51.024 --> 0:16:52.784 you know, I'll always call it as it's happening. 0:16:52.784 --> 0:16:54.384 And she would always say like I never want to 0:16:54.424 --> 0:16:55.344 work with ourselves again. 0:16:55.424 --> 0:16:57.424 Yeah, exactly. So she kind of made a public promise 0:16:57.424 --> 0:16:59.624 to always call out a bad behavior in the moment 0:16:59.704 --> 0:17:01.664 from her point of view, and that's exactly what she's 0:17:01.664 --> 0:17:04.504 done here. So I was like, it shouldn't be a surprise. Yeah. 0:17:04.584 --> 0:17:06.824 I think what's also really interesting is that we all 0:17:06.824 --> 0:17:09.144 know that she also was a lawyer, so she knows 0:17:09.184 --> 0:17:12.744 so much so everything she say, she knows how careful 0:17:12.784 --> 0:17:15.344 to be. But this sounds like she's not been careful, 0:17:15.344 --> 0:17:16.944 which makes me think that I feel like if more 0:17:16.984 --> 0:17:20.784 celebrities also had law experience, we would get so many 0:17:20.824 --> 0:17:21.624 more of them, Like. 0:17:21.904 --> 0:17:24.024 Every celebrity has a law degree, they'd be out there 0:17:24.024 --> 0:17:25.384 putting up video. Yeah, I don't think. 0:17:25.424 --> 0:17:27.304 I think it should be like, if you're going to 0:17:27.344 --> 0:17:29.104 be celebrity, you need a law degree because I want 0:17:29.144 --> 0:17:29.824 to see more of this. 0:17:29.944 --> 0:17:32.384 Well exactly, but I think what's much more dangerous for 0:17:32.424 --> 0:17:34.224 her to say, and she must have some sort of 0:17:34.224 --> 0:17:36.144 proof to able to put this out there into the world, 0:17:36.424 --> 0:17:38.904 is not the blocking from the film festival, because that's 0:17:38.904 --> 0:17:41.584 obviously a bad thing, but there's nothing illegal about that, 0:17:41.664 --> 0:17:43.864 Like that could just be a creative differences behind the scenes. 0:17:44.184 --> 0:17:47.264 Calling out people from embezzling from your movie and making 0:17:47.264 --> 0:17:50.184 that level of allegation is a huge deal. And unless 0:17:50.024 --> 0:17:51.904 she has to be confident, well, she must have something 0:17:51.904 --> 0:17:54.064 to back it up, because to say that publicly what 0:17:54.104 --> 0:17:56.224