Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Bondi Sands Everyday Skincare.
Speaker 2: These are the yays of our lives.
Speaker 1: Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too
Speaker 1: rarely question what makes the heart seeing. We work, then
Speaker 1: we rest, but rarely we play and often don't realize
Speaker 1: there's more than one way. So this is the platform
Speaker 1: to hear and explore the stories of those who found lives.
Speaker 3: They adore the good, bad and ugly.
Speaker 1: The best and worst days will bear all the facets
Speaker 1: of seizing your yea. I'm Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah,
Speaker 1: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels
Speaker 1: to co found Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milk Bar.
Speaker 3: Sez the Ya is.
Speaker 1: A series of conversations on finding a life you love
Speaker 1: and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 3: Hi Viim, Morning Bim, Welcome back, Welcome back to the show,
Speaker 3: Welcome back to you to live.
Speaker 2: I know who re entered the universe. This is the
Speaker 2: first years of our lives in so many weeks. A
Speaker 2: very very belated birthday episode to everyone who submitted questions
Speaker 2: for our Q and a thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your patients. I feel like I kept putting up that
Speaker 2: Q and A function on socials and saying we're recording tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and then we just didn't record tomorrow for a month.
Speaker 3: For a whole month.
Speaker 4: I feel like the episode we did prior or the
Speaker 4: last one we did was a few days before your birthday,
Speaker 4: and then well, oh, we won't include the birthday stuff
Speaker 4: because we're just recorded next week. And then next week
Speaker 4: became six sixteen years later and eighty.
Speaker 3: Five years old.
Speaker 5: It was a new Q and Aarian life. It's been
Speaker 5: really great, really great. My voice is aged, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: But you were on well, I was onwell.
Speaker 2: I finally the spicy cough caught out with me.
Speaker 3: It was definitely my turn, like, let's be real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually really impressed that it took that long.
Speaker 3: So am I I am.
Speaker 4: As much obviously I would never be should upon anyone.
Speaker 3: I'm I was like, finally, she shut up. I still
Speaker 3: sound like this it's really lingering. Yeah, but you had
Speaker 3: a cold afterwards as well, so it's kind of.
Speaker 4: Just but it's quite common to have these prost viile symptoms,
Speaker 4: and mystag is still be infectious.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, surely, surely.
Speaker 4: Because we were hanging out just two days before came
Speaker 4: came busy and we will spend the whole day together.
Speaker 3: Whole day we watched a movie and like we went
Speaker 3: to help. We went, oh my god, we haven't. We
Speaker 3: have so much to catch up on.
Speaker 2: This is why we need to record these episodes once
Speaker 2: every three days, because too much happens in between.
Speaker 3: Because you all need to catch up on our line
Speaker 3: on what we have been doing a group.
Speaker 4: Our lives, Sarah and I, not yours.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: These episodes are just us having catchups and sharing all
Speaker 2: our random and jokes that nobody understands.
Speaker 3: Why are we like this? Sure nobody cares.
Speaker 4: That's what it gets. Your birthday was what happened for
Speaker 4: your birthday? You surprised me? I know that was a
Speaker 4: week after the birthday.
Speaker 3: There was birthday, No, well, birthday day. I did my tradition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we do a tradition of surprising each other
Speaker 2: with random things.
Speaker 3: No streamers, Oh yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So and just tradition is that she somehow gets into
Speaker 2: our home because she has keys, and then I leave streamers.
Speaker 3: In the most obnoxious possible way.
Speaker 4: And I go all out, Like I remember one year
Speaker 4: you went to a massage and I went all out
Speaker 4: in your bedroom, went like balloons across the walls, like
Speaker 4: have a birthday, balloons on the ground. I hid in
Speaker 4: the in the couch waiting for you to surprise you.
Speaker 4: And then this time I had come from work, so
Speaker 4: I came. It was a whole debarko. We we actually want
Speaker 4: to record that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I told I'm already losing my voice. No,
Speaker 3: you're just just a bit tired. I was like, that's faan,
Speaker 3: its your birthday and it was on the day. It
Speaker 3: was on the day day, and you have a ring,
Speaker 3: a new ring. Oh yeah, okay, So we brand the context.
Speaker 2: Nicole kept the footage, so we installed Some of you
Speaker 2: guys might remember from socials that Nick's car got broken into,
Speaker 2: and the irony of that was that we had just
Speaker 2: installed those proper alarmed like ring Ring is the brand
Speaker 2: cameras that attached to your doorbell and.
Speaker 3: That are like motion sense activated.
Speaker 2: So the day before his car got broken into, we
Speaker 2: had all the automatic lights, all the video footage, but
Speaker 2: like the notification on his phone didn't wake him up,
Speaker 2: So we just caught four K footage of a burglar
Speaker 2: going into his car and couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: But now Nick has this really loud in your face
Speaker 2: of noxious alarm that goes like any motion near our
Speaker 2: door and he gets this like chime bell wind and
Speaker 2: going on like, I know.
Speaker 4: You have ring, but I don't know how ring works
Speaker 4: because I don't know. I just I don't even have
Speaker 4: a doorbell. But you just have to knock, like use
Speaker 4: your own muscles and OK. Over in Plubtown, we just
Speaker 4: used knuckles. Were coming and I was on the phone
Speaker 4: to my friend on FaceTime.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and I was like, thought, I was
Speaker 3: so incognito. I was like whispering, Oh my god, she
Speaker 3: doesn't know.
Speaker 2: She wasn't.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the whole ring sensor, emotion alarm, voice alarm. Nick
Speaker 4: was watching the whole thing go down. I was on
Speaker 4: the front porch and he was. He was messaging me
Speaker 4: and being like, what the f are you doing? Do
Speaker 4: you think no one can hear you? And I was
Speaker 4: like yeah, whispering. He's like, the whole house can hear you?
Speaker 3: And I said I think.
Speaker 2: There's women outside and he's like, oh no, there's no
Speaker 2: women outside.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, someone's outside a phone call. No one
Speaker 3: can hear me.
Speaker 2: Because you were just like multitasking, like putting his streamers up,
Speaker 2: having a.
Speaker 3: Little gap with a friend. I was whispering, joy whispering,
Speaker 3: I thought I was.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, look how good the front
Speaker 4: watch looks like I was giving her a door.
Speaker 3: Off the streamers. But you'd be like, look at the streamers.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, everyone knows that laugh is
Speaker 2: also a tradition to these episodes.
Speaker 4: I did end up decorating it as per usual, and
Speaker 4: then we had dinner that was a birthday day, but
Speaker 4: the birthday surprise was weeks after.
Speaker 3: It was so lovely, it was the best.
Speaker 2: So also, as you guys know, coolest thing in the
Speaker 2: entire universe is that my brother and I share our birthday.
Speaker 2: So we were both adopted from different biological families, born
Speaker 2: in different cities, but we have the same birthday four
Speaker 2: years apart, and then ended up getting adopted into the
Speaker 2: same family through a blind process, which blows my mind.
Speaker 2: So if you don't believe in destiny, it's impossible not
Speaker 2: to grow up believing in destiny. When oh, totally, that's
Speaker 2: how I ended up with my brother. And also I
Speaker 2: forget that you're adopted.
Speaker 4: I remember that one time I was in Korea and
Speaker 4: I met.
Speaker 3: I have this Korean friend, Jade. I love Jade. You
Speaker 3: know Jade. We all love Jade.
Speaker 4: And she is like Korean against speaks Korean, but I
Speaker 4: met her in Melbourne and obviously speaks very full in English.
Speaker 4: So she's flying back to Korean now lives in Korean
Speaker 4: and I was there the other year and I was like, Jay,
Speaker 4: let's catch up, and she's my only Korean.
Speaker 3: Friend in my brain? Am I only Korean friend?
Speaker 4: And so I went and I just this post and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my only Korean friend.
Speaker 3: Love you so much, Jade.
Speaker 4: And Sarah commented, she goes, what the actual excuse me
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 3: No kidding? I just forgot, Sarah, I was Korean. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this is I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I just forgot because okay.
Speaker 4: Forget sure, shop, I forget because your mum is like
Speaker 4: country bumpkin Australian lady mom.
Speaker 3: I love my mummy.
Speaker 2: Mother's Day is also coming up. It's been since our
Speaker 2: last episode. My birthday is so far away.
Speaker 3: Mother's Day but between howd Easter in between that and also.
Speaker 4: You went to Hamilton Island and did it also into
Speaker 4: Hamilton Island?
Speaker 3: How was that?
Speaker 2: It was absolutely incredible. I got to meet Grace Tame amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's such a special human being. We
Speaker 2: had the greatest time.
Speaker 3: So much has happened. Oh my god, how do I
Speaker 3: what was it for? Again?
Speaker 2: So first I was em seeing they keep it cleaner
Speaker 2: to us, that's right and one of the most beautiful things.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 2: As you know, I go on about this all the time,
Speaker 2: but meeting listeners in real life reminds me a that
Speaker 2: they exist, but b is just the most special special
Speaker 2: thing to like out in the wild get to actually
Speaker 2: meet people who listen to the show. And I didn't
Speaker 2: expect you know, it's keep it cleaner, I thought, Stephan, Laura,
Speaker 2: they have a beautiful, big, like massive community, and I
Speaker 2: sort of would you know, finishing emceeing and then like
Speaker 2: go to leave and they'd have this massive queue of people.
Speaker 3: And then the fact that they were like SE's the
Speaker 3: a listeners who were also wait.
Speaker 2: Around wait for me for Cca, and it was so
Speaker 2: so lovely.
Speaker 3: Some people like brought their book so that.
Speaker 2: I could say it blew my mind absolutely was the
Speaker 2: most special thing ever. And then from the Brisbane Keep
Speaker 2: It Cleaner to UR went to Hamilton Island to mc
Speaker 2: for Entrepreneurs Organization, which is another amazing, amazing bunch of
Speaker 2: people who it's a global organization with chapters in each
Speaker 2: city and you get put into forums with I think
Speaker 2: eight or nine or maybe ten other business owners of
Speaker 2: a similar size but different industries, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: an amazing, amazing community.
Speaker 3: And that was mind blowing. Didn't they have like a
Speaker 3: non something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a non solicitation and strict confidentiality clauses
Speaker 2: so you have a safe place you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: pitch to each other. Makes sense, but I like, you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to tell anyone else, so you can share
Speaker 2: your figures really openly, and like you know, business can
Speaker 2: be really isolated. It can be really hard to find
Speaker 2: people who can give you honest advice without using your
Speaker 2: information for something.
Speaker 3: It's a really really beautiful organization.
Speaker 2: It really was quite special and for me too to
Speaker 2: have gone from two years of not having colleagues or
Speaker 2: not really doing anything to being with like three hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty amazing people. Yeah, it was so special that
Speaker 2: we had easter. I just like, I don't even know
Speaker 2: where to start, like so much has.
Speaker 3: Happened, so much has happened. Well, we did go to Hamilton.
Speaker 3: We went to Hamilton and then Hamilton the Musical and
Speaker 3: Hamilton's a lot of Hamilton Hamilton's. Hamilton was great. You
Speaker 3: didn't know about it.
Speaker 4: I just picked you up and then we weren't.
Speaker 2: It was really one of those fun days. So, oh,
Speaker 2: you have to tell us about your yesterday.
Speaker 3: Oh my, yesterday you.
Speaker 4: Went to Newcastle. Oh, so I was having a live crisis.
Speaker 4: We realized it wasn't really a live crisis. I was
Speaker 4: just very exhausted, and then realized I was really low
Speaker 4: and iron and then I didn't realize what the ripple
Speaker 4: effects of being a really low energy was, and one
Speaker 4: of those for me was being really irritable and fidgety,
Speaker 4: and like I.
Speaker 3: Was like, I am may get it. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 3: to have an equestrian. I'm actually so bad.
Speaker 4: I couldn't I couldn't be more cold if Oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's just embarrassing.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm very sorry for that those have affected Loss.
Speaker 2: We're really sorry that Ange was a bitch and actually
Speaker 2: made LOSSI cry that's.
Speaker 3: A story for another day, another day.
Speaker 4: So I went to Newcastle on a whim to see
Speaker 4: my really great friend and I love being spontaneous, and
Speaker 4: it was a very spontaneous trip. I decided I was
Speaker 4: meant to say to the Thursday, and then extended it
Speaker 4: to the Saturday.
Speaker 3: She's got two kids who are.
Speaker 4: Four and five or three and five turning four and six,
Speaker 4: and I just adore them. So we haven't seen it
Speaker 4: time for ages and my kids would kind of bear
Speaker 4: remember me if anything, but they're just awesome, and they're
Speaker 4: really awesome kids. Anyway, I said to her, I was like,
Speaker 4: can I take them out for yesterday? And then she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course, Oh my god, do whatever you want. She's
Speaker 4: like whatever, school is not important. She's a teacher. She
Speaker 4: school's not important.
Speaker 3: She was your teacher. She was one of the best.
Speaker 4: So I took them out of school for a whole
Speaker 4: day and I said to them, you can write on
Speaker 4: this a place paper all the things that you want
Speaker 4: to do, and I have to say yes to all
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: It was the cutest list of things to do.
Speaker 4: It was like, see what's on the sushi train, but
Speaker 4: sushi was spout so shy.
Speaker 3: See what's happening in the movies?
Speaker 4: Make dinner for mom and Dad, have a fancy dinner
Speaker 4: like fancy spout f a and s y drawer house.
Speaker 3: Watch seventeen I watch seventeen movies.
Speaker 4: Oh I remember, go to the Mausam Museum, like the
Speaker 4: great They go to the park, catch the fairy, poor
Speaker 4: beautiful things, and I was like, gin is a testament
Speaker 4: to their parenting is that there was only one thing
Speaker 4: that involved technology, which was the seventeen movies. Because it
Speaker 4: was all cooking for mom and dad, writing Mamma Dad's invitation.
Speaker 3: We literally did all of it. We caught the bus.
Speaker 4: Everywhere around Newcastle, went over the ferry, went to the park.
Speaker 4: They saw a fountain. They were like, one caused me
Speaker 4: stanch and one caused me. I was like still trying
Speaker 4: to figure out how.
Speaker 3: What my name is? It be like stanch, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's so.
Speaker 4: Stane dang for lamb dang like ants like just can.
Speaker 3: Never get it right, like I love children.
Speaker 4: And so they were running around naked in this fountain
Speaker 4: because it was yesterday. We had so much sugar jilati
Speaker 4: at before night ten o'clock.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, just the best day ever.
Speaker 4: And then we cooked for mom and dad that night
Speaker 4: and they had to have a fancy dinner which went
Speaker 4: Mom and dad had to dress up in a suit
Speaker 4: and dress, and we were the waitresses.
Speaker 3: So I said, Cordy, you put maybe let's make this
Speaker 3: the romantic. She's like, yeah, she d.
Speaker 4: Do a love hunt in a book and put on
Speaker 4: the tables and then she wout a table number on
Speaker 4: this like old people that wrote seventy two for some reason,
Speaker 4: table seventy two. The funniest kids ever. And so we
Speaker 4: served them and it was the best. And then we
Speaker 4: turned into a documentary that we showed them that night.
Speaker 4: So we filmed the whole day, turned into a little
Speaker 4: video that cord He chosen music and the some of
Speaker 4: the footage and stuck.
Speaker 3: And we showed my dad that night our whole day out,
Speaker 3: and it was just like it was so.
Speaker 4: Refreshing and wholesome, and I was.
Speaker 3: Probably exactly what I needed.
Speaker 4: I think that trip for me wasn't didn't need to
Speaker 4: be an adventure trip. Normally i'd be very adventurous, like
Speaker 4: camping and van laughing and doing lots of water sports
Speaker 4: and things like that. But I think I just wanted
Speaker 4: to bunk it down in that trip, which I was
Speaker 4: able to because they're just so wholesome.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, Yesterday was awesome.
Speaker 4: I highly recommend Yesterday for anyone at any age.
Speaker 3: I feel like everyone needs to have a day a Yesterday.
Speaker 4: But I think you need someone to pull you, like,
Speaker 4: go and surprise you, take you out of whatever you're
Speaker 4: doing for that day and just just surrender to the spontaneity. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like similar to Hamilton.
Speaker 2: Or I was gonna say, that's what we did on
Speaker 2: my birthday was like a kind of a version of
Speaker 2: that where I didn't know what anything was. I just
Speaker 2: had to say yes to like the whole day of
Speaker 2: insert Andrews here.
Speaker 4: This date, please block out a day, and I booked
Speaker 4: you the tickets ages and your mom was so your
Speaker 4: mom was the best.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I was only off the scent
Speaker 2: because she did that amazing acting at the table.
Speaker 3: She was amazing. So I was like so total.
Speaker 4: I was like, I only told Elizabeth because I assumed
Speaker 4: or knew that it's something that you and I might
Speaker 4: have booked for your aunties and your mom to take
Speaker 4: them to. So I was like, oh, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: I've booked it for for a birthday. Do you mind
Speaker 4: making sure that she doesn't book it all that's not
Speaker 4: already booked. She's like, oh my god, best present ever.
Speaker 3: And then at the table at your birthday, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. You want to know what it is?
Speaker 3: And your mom was like, oh no, You're like your
Speaker 3: mom's not very happy about it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then she goes she just fully play
Speaker 4: into it. She goes and straight dead face. She was like,
Speaker 4: I'm actually quite concerned. It's quite dangerous.
Speaker 2: And so I thought we were going to like like
Speaker 2: squid water.
Speaker 4: Raft like because she kept playing with it like your
Speaker 4: mom fully just continued for two weeks, being like I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm not I'm not that keen on the activity.
Speaker 2: You should write a will. But it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's something you would do. I was like, fuck typical.
Speaker 2: And she's gone and booked me into some like extreme sport,
Speaker 2: like we're probably bungee jumping onto a mountain in the
Speaker 2: Alps to ski down a hill or something.
Speaker 3: I want to relax.
Speaker 2: It was so good, and then you took me into
Speaker 2: the city and I thought we were going to You
Speaker 2: said historical Yep, we're going to the museum.
Speaker 4: And I was like, which I was really excited about,
Speaker 4: Like Jesus, I could have saved a lot of money
Speaker 4: and just gone to the museum.
Speaker 2: But I love that. So my mum, you always used
Speaker 2: to do run away from school days. That's where it
Speaker 2: was like without calling it yesterday, it was he yes day.
Speaker 2: And I think that was so formative that there were
Speaker 2: just days where we do this all the time. We
Speaker 2: have no plans, even like last night we did a
Speaker 2: movie but we didn't know we were going to have
Speaker 2: a movie night. It's just balled our eyes out.
Speaker 4: It's a block out the day day. But I think
Speaker 4: there's also some niceness in. I know it's hard with
Speaker 4: full time working things. You can't necessarily just take someone out,
Speaker 4: but you can always book someone out and be like,
Speaker 4: hey take an audio or take an annual leave dawn
Speaker 4: this day, trust me.
Speaker 3: It's worth it.
Speaker 4: Or even like an a time like a yes, pick
Speaker 4: them up, just kind of not have any plans and
Speaker 4: just pick them up and take them somewhere and they
Speaker 4: have to genuinely surrender, you know, phones down, like social
Speaker 4: media or whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Really, but it's really.
Speaker 4: Refreshing and wholesome and lovely.
Speaker 2: So that's our recommendation, That's what I Yeah, that's definitely Yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah with anyone could be your parents or Paul, anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also have we have so many different dops
Speaker 2: in our brains at the moment, so it's already I mean,
Speaker 2: our normal episodes are chaotic, but this, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: where do we even go from here? But another thing
Speaker 2: that's kind of Yesterday related is that now we're actually
Speaker 2: able to do live events again and things in person,
Speaker 2: and how lovely it's been on a few times so
Speaker 2: far since reopening up that I've been able to actually
Speaker 2: meet neighborhood people in real life again. It's just brought
Speaker 2: so much joy that we were thinking of doing something
Speaker 2: like a like a Pino and Picasso night together, like
Speaker 2: as a small group or ceramics. You and I love ceramics,
Speaker 2: like things like that, but definitely Pino and Pocasso, So like,
Speaker 2: would anyone be interested if anyone's listening and would like
Speaker 2: to join us, anyone, We'll do it in Melbourne first, Yep.
Speaker 2: Any Melbourne listeners who just want to come and have
Speaker 2: a gas bag bitter pino, maybe do some painting.
Speaker 3: I feel like that could be really fun. We could
Speaker 3: do a Yester night. I'm not telling anyone what it is,
Speaker 3: except we already just told everyone ye.
Speaker 2: Or it can be for like you and a friend
Speaker 2: and it's a yes night, so you don't tell your friend.
Speaker 2: So people listening say, if you want to come and
Speaker 2: bring a friend, but you don't tell the friend what
Speaker 2: they're coming to is yeah.
Speaker 3: And then you, oh my god, okay, and we did
Speaker 3: not find this obviously ned to tell us why your
Speaker 3: friend deserves the yes night. Oh mhm.
Speaker 2: Hall recommend hala hala recommend.
Speaker 3: Only true is what we're talking about. Even still, oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 4: What if the friend is actually a special event for
Speaker 4: their friend, could be their birthday, could.
Speaker 2: Be theirs, but they don't tell us what it's about,
Speaker 2: and we have to like what charades to guess it
Speaker 2: was at.
Speaker 4: What it isn't on the night they're like, oh, we're
Speaker 4: actually pretty Then an a baby shower with all these
Speaker 4: it's like.
Speaker 2: The neighborhood wedding we were going to do. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: a couple is trying to get propos to. One of
Speaker 2: our listeners was like, I want to get proposed to
Speaker 2: just so it could be a gaggle wedding anyway.
Speaker 4: So back to the premise of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: We will hold a yester night.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it will be around Pino and Pcasso. I
Speaker 2: think is our first one. So let us know if
Speaker 2: you would like to come and why. I don't even
Speaker 2: know how many spot I should probably like call Peter
Speaker 2: be like can you actually do that? But that would
Speaker 2: be the greatest. Let us know if you would like
Speaker 2: some more neighborhood events, because I.
Speaker 3: Feel like it'd be fun. It's so much fun for us.
Speaker 4: As well and the future ones. It's a don't know
Speaker 4: what's happening, just book out the night, turn this evening, yeah,
Speaker 4: and then we you and I organize it.
Speaker 3: No, okay?
Speaker 5: Or you know.
Speaker 3: Whole episode is.
Speaker 2: So you know you know on do you listen to SmartLess? No,
Speaker 2: it's the podcast with Jason Bateman who else?
Speaker 3: I can't even remember.
Speaker 2: Who the three guys are, but three really famous, amazing.
Speaker 3: Actors about it all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so funny and the friend but only one of
Speaker 2: them knows the guests each time, so it'll be like
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell. Yeah, but it can be like you organize
Speaker 2: one yester night and I don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: and then I organize the next one and you don't.
Speaker 3: Know what it is, and no one, no one else knows.
Speaker 3: You're only one person.
Speaker 2: So another thing we did last night was we let
Speaker 2: the internet decide what we were going to watch for
Speaker 2: our movie night.
Speaker 4: That could be a day that we do let the
Speaker 4: internet decide. Okay, sorry, continue, my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: This is such a choose your own adventure episode.
Speaker 3: This is such a freedom adventure but there's no freedom.
Speaker 3: Yes episode, but it's all no, Oh my god. We we
Speaker 3: are so hectic. Okay, what else? It's been minutes and
Speaker 3: we haven't started on the birth night. But what did
Speaker 3: we watch last night? Very wholesome recommendations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, we've missed a lot of recommendations and
Speaker 2: yeahbihood watch stories. We're going to record next week's episodes
Speaker 2: straight after this because there's too much stuff to get
Speaker 2: through and it's on. But we do have one overarching
Speaker 2: recommendation from last night. We had him a little movie
Speaker 2: night we didn't want to watch. As always putting it
Speaker 2: out there to the universe, I would like an app
Speaker 2: where you put your genre and like whether you want
Speaker 2: to cry or not? And you know whether you want
Speaker 2: it to be, you know, whatever you want it to be,
Speaker 2: and like it just spits out a movie for you
Speaker 2: to watch because I'm so indecisive. But we did that
Speaker 2: with the internet. And can you please give a shout
Speaker 2: out to whoever recommended it to us?
Speaker 4: Lindsay, who's we call it at work? Lindsey hoo can out?
Speaker 4: I think that's how you pronounce it's a long last.
Speaker 3: My god, he should have checked before you went love
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 4: That's okay, Linz will be okay with it. Linz recommended it.
Speaker 4: It's called coda. To be honest, I think the best
Speaker 4: part of it was.
Speaker 3: That I knew of the movie.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what it was about, had zero idea
Speaker 4: of what it was about.
Speaker 3: I knew that they had one a few.
Speaker 4: Awards, and I knew the backstory of the crew being
Speaker 4: hearing impaired and or death, and I, you know me,
Speaker 4: I just love I.
Speaker 3: Love it all. I love all of it.
Speaker 4: I love Oslan, and I love asl which is the
Speaker 4: American one, and I love just how the communication I
Speaker 4: thing it through the beautiful anyway we ended up watching that,
Speaker 4: we went from hey, we both want true crime.
Speaker 2: Death killing, we actually started on the prostitute video the.
Speaker 3: Sex Worker now Been. We liter sad in the is it?
Speaker 2: We watched the first thirty seconds of a Ted Bundy
Speaker 2: movie before this recommend it. She came through and I'm
Speaker 2: so glad that we abandoned it in favor of Coder.
Speaker 2: But you know, what's the most beautiful thing is watching
Speaker 2: a movie when you haven't heard all the hype, you
Speaker 2: don't really know.
Speaker 3: So I was like that with Hamilton. I didn't know
Speaker 3: any of the backstory.
Speaker 2: I just knew that our dear friend Georgia Love was
Speaker 2: like only speaks in Hamiltonian.
Speaker 3: But otherwise I had no idea about it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes coming to something without knowing the storyline is
Speaker 2: it's like a yester night.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm saying yes.
Speaker 2: To this movie for two and a half hours, even
Speaker 2: though I don't know what it's about. And we were
Speaker 2: bawling within thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: Is can I quickly put what the other recommendations were from?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but first let's go through coder? Oh yeah, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 3: so yep, CODA.
Speaker 2: So CODER actually stands for child of a Deaf adult. Yes,
Speaker 2: And actually, maybe we shouldn't say too much about it
Speaker 2: so that people who haven't watched it just go and
Speaker 2: watch it without knowing anything about it and then report
Speaker 2: back because it is just so much yay in the heart,
Speaker 2: like bawling our eyes out.
Speaker 3: Actually I was making fun of man. I was like,
Speaker 3: am Ukraine airy movie.
Speaker 4: Was walking around the room like, you know, I'm so strong,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm about to cry. And it
Speaker 4: was not even a really teary part of the movie.
Speaker 4: It's not a sad movie.
Speaker 3: It's just beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like crying, sterious in hysterics and
Speaker 4: then and I was like shamelessly crying and then all
Speaker 4: of a suddenly hear.
Speaker 3: Like this nose sniffley the other way. It was just
Speaker 3: it was tears of joy though.
Speaker 2: It was just pure humanity and so much love and emotion,
Speaker 2: and just go and watch it.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't think you could ever get to the end
Speaker 2: of it and not feel warm and enlightened and oh
Speaker 2: it's it's beautiful. And then of course we do that
Speaker 2: thing where then we go in a YouTube wormhole and
Speaker 2: watch all the interviews with the actors about the movie.
Speaker 2: It won three Oscars, so you probably don't need to
Speaker 2: know anymore, But do yourself a favor and go and
Speaker 2: watch it, especially if you're having a bad day like
Speaker 2: you just it's so so beautiful, and don't look up
Speaker 2: too much about it.
Speaker 3: I kind of like that idea. Yeah, we had no idea,
Speaker 3: We just watched it.
Speaker 4: I think that's the other thing about recommendations is that
Speaker 4: they're recommended recommendations is because they were recommendated to you.
Speaker 3: Recommendated. It's kind again recommend datd.
Speaker 4: To you, so you kind of trust in that already,
Speaker 4: so you don't really have to vet it or like
Speaker 4: you read the blurbs or anything.
Speaker 2: And just another really quick shout out for another recommendation
Speaker 2: which was actually a nomination. The last guest we had
Speaker 2: on I think it was the last guest, or maybe
Speaker 2: the guest before, Alison Gordon, who was the incredible Army
Speaker 2: officer turned Arctic and Antarctic expeditionist turned sustainable pet food
Speaker 2: business owner who created this net zero protein source for
Speaker 2: her PTSD suffering former parrot drooping dog like water story
Speaker 2: was submitted by Emily de Wilgis, who's an amazing neighborhood
Speaker 2: listener and I would never have found Alison without that,
Speaker 2: so I love the idea of getting you guys to
Speaker 2: whistleblow on your community heroes because we want to feature them.
Speaker 2: And now we're getting a bit more organized with how
Speaker 2: we're going to be sharing these stories, so please keep
Speaker 2: them coming.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: Can I share some other recommendations?
Speaker 3: Go for it?
Speaker 4: So we put it up on the Instagram. These are
Speaker 4: some of the recommendations. So in canto Lin, Manuel, Maria, Christina,
Speaker 4: thank you Christina, we had please put No Escape on
Speaker 4: your list. Such a great movie, awful but great from Colby.
Speaker 3: Awful love Colby, I love awful but great.
Speaker 4: Yes, The Reader with Kate Winslet was apparently good, apparently
Speaker 4: mind boggling, but very much enjoyed, so please watch that.
Speaker 4: Apparently this one was like passionately advocated for, so it
Speaker 4: must be good. Dot on Netflix called The Last Breath incredible.
Speaker 4: Just trust me, I swear you'll be recommending it to everyone.
Speaker 3: Trust me. Trust So okay, I think it's the next
Speaker 3: sex on that.
Speaker 4: Second on our list, we've got Turning Red, oh, which
Speaker 4: I think is on Disney Plus Potential.
Speaker 3: I think it's a cartoon.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I haven't actually watched any of these. I feel like
Speaker 3: we need to have a vetting.
Speaker 4: Process in case we're like, oh yeah, good, turny red,
Speaker 4: don't look up, don't look at ted Lasso by Junior.
Speaker 3: Ted Lasso has been recommended so many times. I haven't
Speaker 3: watched any of either. I don't know why we need
Speaker 3: to do and we need to do that. Three sixty
Speaker 3: five DNA watch it. It's like a comedy apparently if
Speaker 3: you want to laugh. Devil was Classic by Steph.
Speaker 4: Dev was the one that recommended three sixty five DNA. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there were the main ones. I think hopefully I've got more. Yeah,
Speaker 4: some good recommendations. So if you do have a movie
Speaker 4: night that you've got coming.
Speaker 3: Up, start with Coder.
Speaker 4: Yes, start with Coder and then.
Speaker 3: Sa us out the others. All please recommend us other ones.
Speaker 2: If you have.
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Speaker 3: Questions.
Speaker 2: I feel like these poor people who have submitted them
Speaker 2: for like six weeks now to so to have some
Speaker 2: of them answered question they did have to suffer through
Speaker 2: thirty minutes of us laughing about nothing.
Speaker 3: Okay, so questions.
Speaker 4: This was just random questions slash questions. If they wanted
Speaker 4: about your birthday, but it ended up just being a mixedport.
Speaker 3: It's bad.
Speaker 4: It's bad, I think, So I'm just gonna throw some
Speaker 4: at you.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, this one. It's probably quite a nice.
Speaker 4: One for some people. It is by Nat Underscore fam.
Speaker 4: How did you find balance during your time as a lawyer?
Speaker 4: Young struggling grad Here, Oh, I emerge with a tear
Speaker 4: rolling down face but still smiling.
Speaker 2: Oh, I feel your pain, my love. Balance is something
Speaker 2: that is so elusive. I think in all chapters of
Speaker 2: my life I've struggled with it. But it definitely was
Speaker 2: harder than I think, because you know, at the very
Speaker 2: beginning and improve yourself, you don't necessarily feel established enough
Speaker 2: or confident enough to take back the power in the
Speaker 2: same way that you might a few years into your career.
Speaker 2: You know, you are kind of establishing yourself, working hard,
Speaker 2: trying to learn, make a good impression. It's really difficult,
Speaker 2: and I think looking back at that time, we had
Speaker 2: matro Maiden in the background from probably the end of
Speaker 2: my first year. So having something even if you can
Speaker 2: only give it a little bit of time on the weekend,
Speaker 2: a little bit of time after work, it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be a full business, but having something on the
Speaker 2: side that gives your brain a little bit of a
Speaker 2: rest but also makes you excited to finish work at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like something you can't wait
Speaker 2: to get to or that you can't wait to have
Speaker 2: time for. I found that even if it wasn't technically
Speaker 2: balanced in terms of work being like ninety percent of
Speaker 2: my life and that only being ten percent, it's better
Speaker 2: than having nothing else to balance it out. I feel
Speaker 2: like where the biggest challenge happens is where you're working life.
Speaker 2: If your working identity and your working goals become everything
Speaker 2: and you're so tired that you don't make time for
Speaker 2: anything else, which is so understandable and natural. But even
Speaker 2: just having one small activity that you know makes you
Speaker 2: really happy and making sure that's the one thing you
Speaker 2: don't miss, whether or not anything else gets fitted in
Speaker 2: that week. I feel like, you know, as you get
Speaker 2: more senior, and as you get more confident in being
Speaker 2: able to push back a little bit your time to
Speaker 2: integrate that activity into your week, more will grow.
Speaker 3: But just start small.
Speaker 2: Start with something that gives your brain a complete rest
Speaker 2: and your body a complete rest. Surround yourself with friends
Speaker 2: who also either going through the same thing, or who
Speaker 2: have been through it and either found a solution or
Speaker 2: change their balance, or who got the balance wrong and
Speaker 2: wish that they could tell someone younger than them how
Speaker 2: to fix it. I think just having people to bounce
Speaker 2: off in those harder times as well really helps.
Speaker 4: This is a question on the back of that question
Speaker 4: that wasn't in the list, but in grad lawyer corporate
Speaker 4: kind of life, do you still get to cumulate leave
Speaker 4: for the year and things like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's the other thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: use your six days. It takes a while to a
Speaker 3: crew leave.
Speaker 2: But I think in some working environments there is a
Speaker 2: bit of pressure not to take your leave, but you're
Speaker 2: entitled to it. I mean, perhaps don't ask for it
Speaker 2: in your first three months at the firm, but yeah,
Speaker 2: you're entitled to take that. And I think it's it's
Speaker 2: a much better environment now, a much better landscape than
Speaker 2: it was, say ten years ago or even five years ago.
Speaker 2: People are more accepting that burnt out employees don't achieve much.
Speaker 4: I allow you, That's what I learned the hard way.
Speaker 4: I think I was so new and fresh and.
Speaker 3: Like I have to be committed to this job.
Speaker 4: I took I think three days of annually last year
Speaker 4: altogether and then obviously the eight days that we have
Speaker 4: to take. But I underappreciated the ability to take leave
Speaker 4: and we were really lucky at work that they actually
Speaker 4: encourage it and they would, but in my mind it
Speaker 4: was my own conscience that was like, oh, no, I
Speaker 4: can't leave the team, like yeah, they're so short stuffed already,
Speaker 4: like in the middle of pandemic, I can't leave them.
Speaker 4: When they were kind of like, no, we want you
Speaker 4: to and you should. Yeah, and so they were encouraging
Speaker 4: and I always here it being like no, no, like
Speaker 4: there's never a good time, but there's never going to
Speaker 4: be a good time, and so that's why Newcastle. But
Speaker 4: it took me that long to just use it. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, oh my god, now I've booked.
Speaker 4: I'd like, you used all my leave for the year,
Speaker 4: but preemptively booked for the rest of the year, and
Speaker 4: now I have things to silk forward to. That's how
Speaker 4: it's worked for me, is that I rather than continually
Speaker 4: work and there's nothing to look forward to, then if
Speaker 4: you book leave somewhere at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: even it's for a week means that there's something exciting.
Speaker 3: That's happening in the look to look forward to.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing as well that really helped
Speaker 2: me is looking at the public holidays that you have
Speaker 2: in the year in advance and sort of if you
Speaker 2: don't want to take that much leave, you can just
Speaker 2: add a day onto a three day weekend, so that
Speaker 2: turns into four days, but you've only had to use
Speaker 2: one day about your leave, and if you book early
Speaker 2: enough before you need it. Where it gets tricky is
Speaker 2: where you know, you suddenly realize there's a three day
Speaker 2: weeknd next week and you ask them or in a
Speaker 2: week in advance, like you can't manage your workload around
Speaker 2: taking four days off. Whereas if you book it now
Speaker 2: the public holidays are already set. You know you can
Speaker 2: book now for like November, and build it in so
Speaker 2: that you know in advance you've given them enough notice.
Speaker 2: You can hand over all your case files on time.
Speaker 2: You know, if you kind of plan ahead, you don't
Speaker 2: feel as guilty because you're not leaving anyone. You know,
Speaker 2: you're not announcing it at the last minute. Everyone can
Speaker 2: plan around you. And also then you can get it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you said, you can get excited, So I think
Speaker 2: I think you're yeah, managing your annual leave as efficiently
Speaker 2: and effectively as you can. It's there for a reason.
Speaker 2: And sick days, I mean they don't roll over. You're
Speaker 2: supposed to use them in the year and not waiting
Speaker 2: either until you're like deathly, because it can take you
Speaker 2: a really long time to get well if you don't
Speaker 2: take a sick day like when it could be most effective.
Speaker 2: But also I never used my sick days for mental
Speaker 2: health days. I only use them for physical health days,
Speaker 2: and that did not work very well. So if you're
Speaker 2: having a mental like, don't feel like you can't use
Speaker 2: them for mental holidays either.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: This is random one, but I like random. I actually
Speaker 3: like them, not being mini dot xcent. How do you
Speaker 3: normally greet each other on the phone and in person? Question?
Speaker 3: Usually bim.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Normally Sarah will be like, hey, bim, this is the phone,
Speaker 3: so the ring ring.
Speaker 4: Sarah, hay bim, and I'll be like, did you just
Speaker 4: throw your phone in the triangle because she doesn't pick
Speaker 4: up a hundred.
Speaker 3: Times and then she just like randomly picks up, so
Speaker 3: you're always surprised you're like, be.
Speaker 1: Like Bim.
Speaker 2: Because you're in the car and I my master goes boop.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very excitable. Funny story. So Nick used
Speaker 2: to always make fun of my master bootoo, so when
Speaker 2: when I would call him, he'd answer and go boot boop.
Speaker 2: And one of our friends, Jimmy, thought that that's what
Speaker 2: we call each other. Cute name is for each other.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was like, what are you saying?
Speaker 3: It's like, isn't it what do you call each other?
Speaker 3: Boot boom? I'm like, what do you is the best? No,
Speaker 3: it's always the phone is.
Speaker 4: You're always very much hey Bim and I'm Bolina or
Speaker 4: you're like Bimberlina.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's very much like I don't ever say
Speaker 3: bim Berlina. I say bimbaynor. I think not when I
Speaker 3: first say you yeah, and then sometimes you're like oi yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes you're let oi okay. I didn't realize.
Speaker 4: And also, oh this is a visual again but this obeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is definitely me and now I do it?
Speaker 3: Have you noticed it's waving like with your hands fingers
Speaker 3: together and thumb or touching each other.
Speaker 2: And your hand doesn't move independently of your forearm, like
Speaker 2: the whole thing moves together. That's a shoulder exercise. You've
Speaker 2: got to keep your core really stable. But it's really
Speaker 2: small movements.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really small. When did that start? I have no idea,
Speaker 3: bim and then but us.
Speaker 4: Physically seeing each other is very excitable. It's not like
Speaker 4: a bam and then a jump like it's a hug
Speaker 4: jump up and down me. And so it's really skinny.
Speaker 4: So she goes through my arm.
Speaker 3: Just joined like non patents jumping. It's a really cute question.
Speaker 4: It is each other. On the back of that, he's
Speaker 4: why do you call each other bim Is it short
Speaker 4: for bimbo? That's what we've definitely told that story nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because I.
Speaker 4: Would have been in the know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've we've we've done it before.
Speaker 2: It's a term of endement. Basically that started with bim
Speaker 2: Bolina was the person. No, it started with bimbo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then bim and then and then other suffixes came
Speaker 4: and then all had different meanings.
Speaker 3: But there's a hierarchy and Bimbi is at the top.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just kind of like bimbo is pretty like
Speaker 4: generic now yeah, and then.
Speaker 3: Like so if she calls you Bimbo, you're not in
Speaker 3: the circle of trust. You can't expose that. I'm gidding.
Speaker 4: No, he's determined of endearment that I started when I
Speaker 4: was in high school and then it's stuck. But for
Speaker 4: people that don't know me and don't know us, it
Speaker 4: can be people like, oh, that's been insulting, but it's
Speaker 4: hugely loving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we call the other bim and I
Speaker 3: find it. We're calling you anything house I know whenever
Speaker 3: I call you and you're like, what genuinely like, who
Speaker 3: is bim is you? And your name's Bimby in my phone?
Speaker 3: And sometimes people like can you give me serious number?
Speaker 3: The other day I sent her to Ruthers and I
Speaker 3: forgot it said Bimby a Korean name.
Speaker 4: Okay, next question is how do you keep it real
Speaker 4: and feel confident and positive by missus Dodd. Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I think think when you keep it real, you feel
Speaker 2: more confident. Like for me at least, they're really closely
Speaker 2: tied together because the more that I show, and I
Speaker 2: didn't start this way necessarily. I was probably more curated
Speaker 2: at the start, particularly because my entrance to social media
Speaker 2: was through a business I had to be a bit
Speaker 2: more polished. At the beginning, I found I was less
Speaker 2: confident and more uh more overthinking on socials when I
Speaker 2: wasn't showing all sides of me. And I think it's
Speaker 2: because you create this persona and then the stress of
Speaker 2: feeling like you need to keep up with that, or
Speaker 2: then you're always concerned about perception, and that's like, that's
Speaker 2: not necessarily a bad thing, it's not being inauthentic. It's
Speaker 2: just it was being professional because in the context of
Speaker 2: a business, I couldn't, you know, be as probably loose
Speaker 2: as I am.
Speaker 3: When I first met you.
Speaker 5: You were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was quite structured about it, not necessarily structured.
Speaker 4: But if I said to you, hey, I'm going to
Speaker 4: steal your phone and then put up stories on my face,
Speaker 4: it would.
Speaker 3: Be like, no, this is really important. Immediately A no. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's immediately a now it's a no. It's a no
Speaker 3: for me. But now you're so freely yourself it's great.
Speaker 2: And then I also feel like you feel more confident
Speaker 2: then because you know that you're showing all sides of yourself,
Speaker 2: including the less polished, the more like, you know, conventionally
Speaker 2: embarrassing or awkward or dor key kind of side of
Speaker 2: yourself or without makeup or whatever it is, or when
Speaker 2: you're sick. Sharing all of those things and knowing people stay,
Speaker 2: then you get more confident because you're like, oh, I
Speaker 2: feel accepted in my whole self, not just accepted in
Speaker 2: a small part. I think also surrounding yourself with people
Speaker 2: who are who hype you up rather than pull you down.
Speaker 2: That also makes it easy to be confident because whenever
Speaker 2: you do get in an echo chamber of self doubt
Speaker 2: or imposter syndrome, instead of someone echoing that or amplifying
Speaker 2: it for you, they just shut it down with you
Speaker 2: straight away. That helps enormously because the voices in your
Speaker 2: head really need people to help like drown them out
Speaker 2: positivity all the time. I think the same with confidence.
Speaker 2: Both of those things over time have become easier for
Speaker 2: me to be a default, but they don't start that way.
Speaker 2: I think both of them take practice. They're not just something.
Speaker 2: Some people wake up with them, some people have to
Speaker 2: curate them. But I think a lot of people think, oh,
Speaker 2: I could never be that positive, I could never be
Speaker 2: that confident. But it's definitely something you can practice. It's
Speaker 2: a skill, it's not just a gift that arrives or
Speaker 2: doesn't arrive. It's definitely not all the time. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've seen me in both states, completely without confidence and
Speaker 2: completely not positive.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's choosing to do things that make.
Speaker 2: Confidence and positivity easier in my life and getting rid
Speaker 2: of things that take away from those, Like there's an
Speaker 2: element of conscious choice in the way you live your
Speaker 2: life that makes those things easier. Blocking out pages that
Speaker 2: trigger you and make you feel bad or negative.
Speaker 4: I think you use your people really well in that
Speaker 4: you have this just user Yeah, any of them, the
Speaker 4: inmplices for our friendship, no, put them on after. You
Speaker 4: are great in using your people in that you have
Speaker 4: the same self doubt as a lot of people do,
Speaker 4: even with simple things like do you think this video
Speaker 4: looks funny today? But just at yeah, little things like
Speaker 4: is that sticker going to be really annoying? And when
Speaker 4: you look at your own things, you're very much self critically.
Speaker 4: You see things that most people don't see and care about.
Speaker 4: And it's nice to have people around you that you
Speaker 4: wholeheartedly trust that if they were to say no, it's
Speaker 4: good that you're like, okay, it's good and you can
Speaker 4: just continue with it and that helps a lot, and
Speaker 4: you use it really well, and I feel like it
Speaker 4: helps you because if I watch you try to make
Speaker 4: that decision would have taken thirty minutes tomorrow. You can
Speaker 4: just ask Snick or whoever and really trust their decision
Speaker 4: or their their input, and then you can keep it real.
Speaker 4: And the other thing you're good with with keeping it
Speaker 4: real is taking the mickey out of yourself, so greaz.
Speaker 4: I used to do it with Nick all the time,
Speaker 4: and now Sarah does it herself, which is so good.
Speaker 3: I mock you so much and I still do.
Speaker 4: And at the start, I think I probably would have
Speaker 4: been like, ah, she might take you a little bit personally,
Speaker 4: And now I'm like, I.
Speaker 3: Now love it it. I just go hard or go home.
Speaker 3: I think you're the same though.
Speaker 2: You're another one of those people that everyone assumes is
Speaker 2: positive and confident all the time, easily, but it's not effortless.
Speaker 2: Like you didn't wake up like that. There's been many
Speaker 2: times in your life where you won't like that, but
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: Every day all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you choose to build those traits and live
Speaker 2: your life in a way that helps those traits come
Speaker 2: out more than others.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: My strategy low standards, expects anything from everything.
Speaker 3: The bonus Yeah, just fart on Instagram and everything.
Speaker 4: Anything normal and socially appropriate. Bonus also follow my beauty chiel. Next,
Speaker 4: so how do you manage your crazy schedule? By Steph Hunter?
Speaker 4: For one? Two I think Steph Hunter, is you know
Speaker 4: when you spoke at the Austin hospital last year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: for yes, was one of the people that like loves
Speaker 4: you and I loved you having you there, and Fulm
Speaker 4: was organizer. I hate saying that, but she was like
Speaker 4: they all loved me because I got star and I
Speaker 4: love her.
Speaker 2: That's Andree's older cousin. She's the greatest. There's a Angel's
Speaker 2: a thing called Cousin's Day with all the cousins in
Speaker 2: their family. And I have been initiated into the Cousins
Speaker 2: activity next week.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love them so much. Thank you
Speaker 3: Steph for the question. Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 2: And I think probably how much I've been hit by
Speaker 2: the symptoms over the past couple of weeks and why
Speaker 2: I got a cold straight after COVID is probably because
Speaker 2: I and I say it all the time, I still
Speaker 2: am not great at I think if some of my
Speaker 2: followers were as brutally honest as they wanted to be,
Speaker 2: perhaps in the weeks before that, they could said like, dude,
Speaker 2: you're gonna You're gonna burn out. At some point, someone's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Definitely was traveling a bit much back to
Speaker 2: back and getting a bit over excited that everything was
Speaker 2: reopened again. But generally I'm getting better at it. And
Speaker 2: the first thing is again the people around you. Having
Speaker 2: people like the only fight engine I have ever had
Speaker 2: is when right, Paul, I agree, that is when it happened.
Speaker 2: The only fight we've ever had was when she was like,
Speaker 2: you tell these messages and you say to everyone like,
Speaker 2: look after yourself, hell this wealth, blah blah.
Speaker 3: And then you're just burning out all the time. It's
Speaker 3: a little bit hypocritical, but it was true.
Speaker 2: I was telling everyone like, you know, your greatest wealth
Speaker 2: is your health, and ballance is key and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and I was like dead. So I think having people
Speaker 2: who pull you up on it and help you not
Speaker 2: feel guilty about setting boundaries, who encourage you to prioritize
Speaker 2: yourself and not feel bad about it, who will never
Speaker 2: like if you try and cancel because you're looking after yourself,
Speaker 2: who will never bully you back into you know, who
Speaker 2: never make you feel bad about making those decisions. And
Speaker 2: also the way I look at it with any behavior,
Speaker 2: including confidence and happiness like we spoke about before, but
Speaker 2: also health, is that the best thing you can ever
Speaker 2: do is learn what your triggers are or just pretty
Speaker 2: much just hack your own habits. Like all of us
Speaker 2: will know when we're about to make a bad decision,
Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to see the things that lead you
Speaker 2: towards bad decisions, and I just build how I manage
Speaker 2: my schedule to avoid allowing myself to make bad decisions. Basically,
Speaker 2: So one thing I know for me is I'm very visual.
Speaker 2: So if I look at my calendar and I've got
Speaker 2: a full day with nothing in it, I'll assume, oh,
Speaker 2: I can put stuff on that day. So if someone
Speaker 2: asked me, can you do something for a full day
Speaker 2: that day, I'll go, yeah, I can. But if I
Speaker 2: have the day blocked out as me time or no bookings,
Speaker 2: like a big trigger warning like do not use this
Speaker 2: day because that's the only day you have off for
Speaker 2: fourteen days, then that's the only way that it'll stop
Speaker 2: me making a bad decision and saying, yes, I actually
Speaker 2: can fit that in. So I know I'm visual, which
Speaker 2: means I calendarize everything so that when I go to
Speaker 2: the point of checking if I'm free, I've blocked out
Speaker 2: time for nothing. If that makes sense, because that's the
Speaker 2: only thing that will stop my like that will break
Speaker 2: the circuit of yeah, I can fit it in when
Speaker 2: I really can't. So calendarizing everything, making appointments with myself
Speaker 2: the same way I would make a business appointment, limiting
Speaker 2: things to like two podcasts a day. I used to
Speaker 2: do like maybe five or six in one day and
Speaker 2: then try and go out for dinner. Now I kind
Speaker 2: of know high energy activities I can only do to
Speaker 2: a day. I try and only do them on certain.
Speaker 3: Days a week and have a computer admin day in between.
Speaker 3: When I'm traveling a lot.
Speaker 2: If I miss a weekend, like sometimes I work on weekends,
Speaker 2: and for example, when I had the Kick Tour, they
Speaker 2: were full days on a Saturday, and I normally wouldn't
Speaker 2: have a high energy work day on a Saturday. I
Speaker 2: do like smaller adminutes, so I had to replace that
Speaker 2: day with a quieter day during the week and if
Speaker 2: I don't do that, if I don't replace it somewhere,
Speaker 2: I obviously I burn out and I know I do.
Speaker 2: So I think hacking your own decision making process to
Speaker 2: make your schedule more manageable, and noticing if you have
Speaker 2: a week that felt too much, look at how much
Speaker 2: you did, and do not do that much again. It's
Speaker 2: like a math equation like if you're eighty percent capacity
Speaker 2: and that still feels like you're burnt out at the
Speaker 2: end of it, then you've got to change it the
Speaker 2: next week. Just constantly tweak and tweak until you find
Speaker 2: what works for you.
Speaker 4: That's what I think Jen's been helpful for you, too.
Speaker 3: So helpful, so incredible.
Speaker 2: My manager is absolutely amazing, And that comes back to
Speaker 2: having the right team around you, like she will openly
Speaker 2: offer if she objectively is noticing that like there's a
Speaker 2: bit too much going on, and I say, nah, I
Speaker 2: can do it, she'll often be like, but can you,
Speaker 2: like should you ye? And to have someone who isn't
Speaker 2: like okay, let's just load you up, like who's on
Speaker 2: you know, on par with this is very energy consuming
Speaker 2: you okay, And also taking charge of saying no sometimes
Speaker 2: when I don't even have the energy to craft a
Speaker 2: nice No. She's amazing at helping just relationship manage and
Speaker 2: expectation managed with clients. Like when I got six, she
Speaker 2: was like, not only are we taking the seven days
Speaker 2: of COVID off, like we probably should take it easy
Speaker 2: for ten days, you know, and pushing all that out
Speaker 2: for me so I didn't even have to think about it,
Speaker 2: like that is invaluable.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I'm going to cut us off their hair.
Speaker 1: I don't think we realize that we'd end up chewing
Speaker 1: your ear off for over an hour and a half
Speaker 1: during this chat.
Speaker 3: It's been so long since we recorded the last one,
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 1: Thought instead I would split this episode into a two
Speaker 1: parter and the second apart will drop in the next
Speaker 1: couple of days, So you still get a full years
Speaker 1: about lives this week, but just in two parts.
Speaker 3: So stay tuned the next week. We'll drop in a
Speaker 3: couple of days.