WEBVTT - The Silly Season Is Over And We Need A Rest 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.680 We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we were 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:03.760 recording on today. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:10.280 I open this door and see my husband having a 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.800 deep conversation in a private little room with a beautiful model, 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.560 and I was like, oh, sorry, then I apologize for 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.760 some reason, shut the door and walk off. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:27.160 Why did you apologize? Don't hello? 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.840 And welcome back to Eat, Sleep, Shit, repeat your unhinged 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.479 podcast about the madness that is motherhood and everything in between. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.360 I'm Kelly McCarron. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.400 And I'm Kiri Cels And in case you missed last 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.320 week's episode, our very first of the year, we talked 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.920 about goals. We started off talking about our fails, which 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.280 were honestly the highlight of my day when I was 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.280 editing that episode. We were so funny. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.680 We were so funny. I'm sure it's funny that we 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.760 think we're so funny, but that's a right. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.480 Like else, you've got to back yourself. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.520 You've got a hello, bud, your own head funny. Otherwise 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.560 what a boring place to be. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.680 We then shared a list of all the things we're 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.840 hoping to do this year and hopefully. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.479 Inspired you all. We have loved hearing what some shitters 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.080 are planning to get up to. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.800 Kel's also loved just saying that she's going to give 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.400 her opinion on them when no one really asks for that. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.880 Listener, I just I enjoy giving feedback and making sure 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.080 that people are feedback. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:21.360 Queen. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.360 Well, I just okay, you need to set realistic, achievable, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.960 and tangible goals. I'm married to a man whose only 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.920 goal for the year is financial freedom, So what does 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:32.280 that mean? 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.399 Also, I don't feel like he spends a lot of 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.400 money on stuff that isn't like needed, Like he's quite practical. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.880 What are you buying, sir? What does financial freedom mean? 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.760 What? Surely he's buy everything that he wants, Like, he's 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.720 not like an outrageously I mean, you can't buy. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.200 A boat, oh he wants he doesn't want a boat. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.880 He's probably like a sports car. But yeah, it's not 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.200 like we're doing it tough. I don't understand what he 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.480 meant by that. And that's why I liked your feedback, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.360 because it's like, well, that's a silly goal because. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.720 It means not boat life for us. Well, today the 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.240 dust of the silly season has finally settle, thank god, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.600 and our trees are packed away against my will. Charlie 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.160 did it while I was out of the house. The 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.160 elf has been fucked off into his box. See you later, Alfie. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.359 The first time I saw a key after the Silly Season, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.880 I said, oh, you're smaller than I anticipated. But we 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.960 think it's because the baby's actually dropped. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.320 I think the baby is engaged in so yeah, not 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.600 in the guts anymore. I tell you. With every step 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.399 I take, I get a little sprinkle on the Vijiji. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.760 It's like the head is just like just knocking on 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.959 that door, saying bang bang, mum, I'm ready, I'm coming soon, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.519 I'm coming. So we thought that we'd recap the silly season, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:50.280 the peaks, pits, anything we recommend from our time, eat ac. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.400 Let's get into it. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.320 So can you believe that it was our third Christmas 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.440 with and Len? The magic of Christmas? I swear it 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.680 just gets better and better. Like I just want to 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.400 start off by saying that I know, towards the end 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.920 of the year, I was a little bit off the 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.320 concept of Santa because I thought it was bullshit. Then 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.799 some kids wouldn't get much, and then they think it's 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.200 because they're naughty, and that silly bloke from the North 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.520 Pole was getting all the credit from my hard work 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.680 buying len the presence, but I actually take it aback 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.960 because fuck my life. It is so magical, like seeing 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.560 their little faces when they put their sacks out, like 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.520 I was like, put out your sack for Santa. Yeah, 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.360 it magically gets full of presents overnight. What's not a 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.040 lot of the Roodolph the reindeer has a nibble of 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.760 a carrot and he stops by has his little snack, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.280 and this presence. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.920 So freaking cute. It is so exciting. Yeah, it's so cute. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.560 And we flew to the Northern Rivers where Charlie's sister 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.480 and dad live, and we stayed with his sister this 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.800 year because his brothers were in the other family house. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.560 So we got to kind of catch the tail end 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.520 of elf on the shelf. And like when I tell 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.840 you my sister in law, Georgie, shout out, she's a shitter. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.960 She is magic. Her partner has two kids and they're 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.000 like five and eight. Maybe. Anyway, she was doing like 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.440 the elf was like hanging from a beam and like 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.320 a swing and then she had these like lists about 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.360 like for the last night. It was like, Rue, you're 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.479 on the nice list because you're being such a good 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.600 sister to be and you've been very kind and gentle, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.280 hands like, and she writes it in this like curly 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:27.320 worly cursive writing. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.000 She's properly incorporates the magic. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.520 She's properly incorporate. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.760 She's an interest mum. Also does she on the whole 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.359 elf on the shelf? Because I saw a lot of 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.680 slack about it, Like people are saying like, oh, fuck 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.120 the off on the shelf and putting extra pressure on parents, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.560 and you know you're setting yourself up for extra work 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.320 and blah blah blah, Well don't do it, then. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.440 Then don't do it. It's the same with everything, like 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.400 can we not just shit on things just because it's 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.200 like quote unquote extra work, we don't don't do it. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.160 We don't have I am not the sort of person 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.240 that would do the elf on the shelf. And you 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.720 know what, if your kid's like, hey, mom, why does 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.120 the elf get more creative at my friend's house. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.000 You're lucky you have an elf? 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.360 Like shut up? 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.720 Can I tell you Charlie's brother, he's got three kids, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.040 and his son went Harry went over to play at 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.320 someone's house and he came home and he's like, Dad, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.159 our elf is so lazy. You should see what blah 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.320 Bar's elf is doing. And his dad was like, shit, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.599 all right, gotta do something a little bit extra than 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.560 that's funny, then okay, hilarious. That is a way. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.400 That's a way better way to frame it than I 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.200 don't know, You've got a lazy elf exactly. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.440 That's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, our elf is lazy. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.599 Let's send them back and not do this anymore. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.040 Yeah, and then if you really don't want to do it, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.360 but like, it's so. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.479 Much fun though, And can I just say, like anything 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.320 that adds extra magic to a time, like when a. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.880 Thing to do, Yes, it's time, but it's free. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.960 But we need things in our lives to like bring 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.080 us joy. Like I just feel like people lack a 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.000 lot of perspective. I feel like with things that have 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.719 happened to me in the last kind of twelve months, 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.280 Like my perspective on things is just like those little 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.840 things are what kids remember. They don't remember like. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.000 The gifts, they're not going to remember what they got. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.600 They remember the cheeky elf. Oh my goodness, remember that 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.560 time I saw my cousin the other day and he 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.840 had like all of the fingernails on one of his 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.560 hands not the other were blue. And I was like, oh, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.640 did Ashley his daughter do that? And he was like, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.280 oh my god, no. The elf was really cheeky. One 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.760 night is really funny. 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.039 That's really funny. That's so cute. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.320 Kids will remember the time that the elf paint of 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.039 my nails blue. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.800 Silly elf. The brother I was just speaking about, he 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.159 did redeem himself. He actually set the elf up to 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.800 eat corn kernels and then there was like popcorn coming 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:41.479 out of his butt. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:43.560 Clever. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.480 So there's so many ways. They don't have to. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.599 Be the theatrical thing. Oh, they can just be really 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.640 like quirky. We should do a thing next year that's 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:57.440 like really easy but effective ideas for elf on the shelf. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:58.919 I would love that because I'm going to do it 0:06:58.920 --> 0:06:59.320 next year. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.440 Oh or Rue will love it. Will I'll compile a 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.000 list because I'm really good at coming up with like 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.240 lazy ways to do things. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.960 Yeah. I almost fucked it though for my sister in 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.120 law's step kids because we were on the phone and 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.640 they were like, oh, we can't wait for you to come, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.440 and I was like, oh, yeah, we're so excited. And 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.160 they were like, oh, does Rue have elf on the shelf? 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.040 And I was like, nah, I think she's too young. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.680 What age did the elf start visiting you? 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:24.840 Oh my god? 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.440 Kay? You know when you're just only parented a toddler 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:28.960 and you can just sail the stuff in front of 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.840 them and there's are no consequences. I was like, I 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.480 almost ruined the magic of Christmas. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.680 Please kids. Kids are kind of dumb. You can just 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:41.200 explain it away, some magic they you know. Yeah, my 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.760 friend's kids came over and the elf was just sitting 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.800 on the tree because Lenny's too young, and they were like, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.640 why is the elf here already? 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.320 How early was it? 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.559 It was like November. I didn't know that the elf 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.320 only came out in December. And then I picked him 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.400 up and I went, it's technically the cats elf. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.840 It's you touched it. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.920 Well, I didn't know that that was all. And then 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:04.680 they were like. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.800 You can't touch the elf. Get the cinnamon, either some 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.400 cinnamon trick or something. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.960 Oh, in our house, Mummy's allowed to touch the elf 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.600 because Mummy's magic. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.920 Yeah. Good recovery, good recovery. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.320 You might could have like just saying shit, out of 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:23.760 my ass. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.160 Yeah, oh my god, it's terrifying. So yeah, this year, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.440 I'm really excited though, to get down and dirty with 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.440 the ELF's. But you know what I mean. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.319 Yeah, yeah, all right, anyway, tell me about your Christmas 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.440 because I knew it was going to be a tough 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.400 one in many regards. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.520 Firstly, on the lighter. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.679 End of the stick, you're very pregnant. Oh my god, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.400 last time you were very pregnant in winter. It's a 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:49.720 wildly different experience. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.480 It's actually quite enjoyable to be pregnant in winter. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:57.199 I will say, you have no ac up there from memory? 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.200 Oh no, we have ducked it. Oh you do. So 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.679 I was very ready, Okay, you'll find there. I was like, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.439 get me out of my apartment with my portable air 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.280 conditioner that does do the trick, but get me into 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.960 that ducted baby. And you know what was really great 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.679 is it because we were staying with my sister in law. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.000 She's ten days behind us. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.760 Oh, so she also is like not stinging out on 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.840 the AC. She's like, it's not on all the time. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.280 But she's also like, so what time are you taking 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.440 a nap today? And I was like, this is the 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.760 energy that I need to get it. It's not just 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.000 me being like I think I need to go for 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:28.480 a nap. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.760 But it's like, so what time shall win? 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.040 It's like we're going down now, guys. You guys have 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.480 got this call, and I'm like. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.680 Fucking so, she's at the exact same stage in terms 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:37.880 of energy depiction. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.560 I need to show you a picture when I can, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.520 Like I haven't met up in a nap since we 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.400 got back. If like when Charlie's gone back to work 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.040 because had han rupees, she not nap anymore a home No, no, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.320 we cut her nap because now she asks to go 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.880 to bed at seven pm and we just put her 0:09:54.880 --> 0:10:00.680 in her toddler bed and she snuggled down and slip what. Yes, yes, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.920 I'm a very big advocate for cutting that bloody app 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.880 in the daytime, because my god, our evenings have just opened, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:09.959 they're wide open. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.920 We're like, I didn't have an evening anymore. What do 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.760 you mean, Well, because Lenny goes to bed at like 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.280 nine thirty exactly. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.520 This was where I was before Christmas. And then I 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.160 just said that's it. No more fucking napping, no more 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.559 napping during the day. I know that I do need 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.880 that nap during the day, but it's not worth it 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.280 at night because we were then going to bed at 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.000 like midnight. So thinking about dropping the nap, I'm in 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.520 give it a go. Give it a go, because you 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:39.280 can always reintroduce it. Remember, nothing is like finally any ia. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.080 Okay. So the pregnancy part that was actually okay. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.520 That was okay. Look, Charlie did have to do a 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.640 little bit of work and the lead up to Christmas, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.240 so there were a couple of days where I had 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.840 her by myself and like wanted to do stuff because 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.600 I wanted her to be tired so that we could 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.360 all chill in the evening kind of thing. I overdid 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.240 it a couple of days. But honestly, being pregnant there 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.440 was so much easier than being pregnant in Sydney because 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.040 simply they were more hands on debt. Yeah, like her 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.760 two cousins who lived with my sister in law, they 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.880 are that little bit older and they're like obsessed with her, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.959 So I didn't really have to parent because they would 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.480 be looking after her or playing with her all day, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.200 you know what I mean. So it was a lot 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.080 more relaxing than I maybe thought it would be. Because 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.840 typically on holidays, like you know, it's just same shit, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.760 different place, but you really notice it when you go 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.760 from having zero help to having a lot of help 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.560 and also from people that have kids as well, which 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:41.320 is really helpful. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.640 You were very apprehensive about your first Christmas without deb Yeah, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.000 how did you navigate everything? 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.920 So I think, like obviously, now having moved through it, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.439 I can definitely say that the lead up to Christmas 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.040 was definitely worse than the actual days sing And that's 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.240 because like I remember specifically like being in Caymer trying 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.200 to get one of the cousins a gift, and just 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.520 like the grief washing over me of like twelve months ago, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.520 I was doing the exact same thing, last minute Christmas shopping, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.400 because we were like on our way like we do 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.480 every year to Charlie's parents and like so excited, and 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.640 I was just like this wave of grief just kind 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.520 of washed over me, like oh God, like everything's like 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.319 so different this year, and the person who made Christmas 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.760 so magic wasn't going to be there. And I think, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.080 you know, everyone's kind of like, oh my God, Like 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.320 you see everyone around you, they have that kind of 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.960 excitement about it being the end of the year and 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.200 going to see their family or whether that's like their 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.920 chosen family or their actual family, like or just being 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:52.800 with friends. And that was hard to see and try 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.880 to participate in because Charlie and I both said to 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.280 each other, we wouldn't be that upset if we kind 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.480 of just didn't do Christmas this year, like it might 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.560 feel nice just to breathe through it and fast forward 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.040 to the bit where we get our baby and that 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.319 brings us some joy kind of thing. But in saying that, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:15.199 the day was actually really beautiful, Like we had George, 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:20.040 Charlie's sister host it, and we did it on Christmas Eve, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.199 so it kind of almost took like we mixed. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.000 Things up so much that it wasn't like the exact 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.360 same thing with one less person exactly. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.319 Yeah, And so it was really nice, like we had 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.640 in laws and stuff there from different partners and all 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.679 the kids were together, and like, I think the best 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.920 thing about it was that, like we addressed the elephant 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.720 in the room, so like Charlie's brother said, like a 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.680 beautiful speech before we were going to eat, just there's 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:52.360 someone missing, yeah that should be here basically, And that 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.880 was hard. But I think like not addressing it would 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.240 feel worse, like we never want to forget her, We 0:13:59.320 --> 0:13:59.920 never want to. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.280 Like for her to think that she's like being wherever 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.600 she is and going, yeah, I don't even have fucking 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:07.480 mention that I'm not. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.120 There, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, like and she, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.840 you know, lets us know that she's there. Just little 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.800 things that happened and you ain't. Yeah, that's definitely dead. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.000 But that was really beautiful and I think everyone could 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.200 take a breath after that, because I think we were 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.040 all kind of like holding that tension in our body 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.360 about like, you know, we want to honor her on 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.080 the day, but we don't know how we're going to 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.800 necessarily do that. But the other hard thing though, was 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.880 like seeing Rue open gifts and stuff because the year before, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.400 Charlie and I stayed with his mum and dad dead 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.760 went crazy with the gifts, like she just loved it, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.840 you know, and Rue just wasn't there yet, you know. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.600 And that was December, and by her birthday in May, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.280 she was there with gifts like she got it, you know. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.040 And so at that Christmas, I was like, oh, next year, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.240 it's just going to be so good, Like. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.680 She will get to her dead level with the small present. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.840 So that was really hard. But like, we're so lucky 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.920 that we have just like people that pop up in 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.320 our lives, like Lucy's mum for instance. Lucy's my one 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.520 of my best friends. We do another podcast here that 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.160 we talk about her a lot on the bush comes 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.120 up a lot on the podcast. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.320 Actually I feel like how she did. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.160 Yeah, her mom like dropped over like a bag of 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.200 gifts for Rue before Christmas when we were doing a 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.720 record at her house, and that. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:30.920 Is so thoughtful. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.600 It was just so thoughtful because I think there's like 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.640 a certain energy that comes with being like a nana, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.520 you know, and she like the gifts. I'm gonna cry obviously, 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.600 but I mean she got her so many gorgeous gifts, 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:51.640 but she got her this like Ballerina jewelry box, so. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.800 You open it, it sings, you make some music. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.720 And she loved it, and like obviously George and I 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.720 are in tears because we're just like that is like 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.520 thank God for that magic, that kind of deb magic 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:12.200 from Margaret. But like it was like heartbreaking but also 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.280 heartwarming at the same time because you're like Deb isn't here, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.400 and that is fucking tragic and we'll never be okay 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:18.680 with that. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.360 But you guys, but we're so lucky to have so 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:24.640 many people in her corner. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.280 Yeah, and just like thinking of how nice that would be, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.360 you know, I don't know, It's just like I'm continuously 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:37.480 surprised by people's kindness and thoughtfulness that honestly makes a difference. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.480 I'm like, so obviously a little bit fucked up because 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.640 of how I grew up, but I'm always like, oh, no, fuss, like, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.960 don't worry, We'll be okay. I'm very insular. I don't 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.480 like to like us to help, but sometimes when that 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.480 help is just given to you in different forms, you're 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.440 just like wow, like you really understand how important it 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.120 is to lean on people. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.360 I also don't think that asking for help comes that 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.160 easily to anyone, which is why I'm a very firm 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.639 advocate for just do something. Yeah, because the worst thing 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.840 that's going to happen is that you're a little bit overbearing. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.119 Oh God, sorry that I loved you too much. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.320 Exactly which I would never well give it to me. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.040 I'm into it. I might be awkward and give you 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.639 an awkward hug, but inside I'm just like thank. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.359 God, Yeah, you know this is that you know that 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.840 you're appreciative. Yeah. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.560 So I would say overall it was actually way better 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.240 than expected because I think what was worse was the leader, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.520 but the actual day and all being together I think 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.959 was really good. And being able to share in the grief. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:49.480 I think being like separated, your grief becomes quite lonely, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.320 lonely and it becomes really heavy. So it's almost when 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.560 you're together, you share in the grief and it becomes lighter, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.560 but it's still had its you know, of course, hard moments. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.160 I think obviously, like with Georgie about to have a baby, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.960 I was about to have a baby, like that is 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.520 front and center, and to be doing it without the 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:15.840 person that was so obsessed with the yeah is really hard. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.840 I think that's great for anyone listening though that is 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:27.040 scared of an upcoming event. Yeah, to know that potentially 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.400 the lead up is way worse because it makes sense 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:30.960 of white and I. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.920 Think like to each their own and how you want 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.320 to deal with that. I how to convo with Georgie 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.520 and she actually we tried to get an interview with 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.440 the Good Morning Girls who have an amazing Yeah. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:43.919 We'll try to speak to them at some time this year, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:48.840 because I think that navigating grief is a different kettle 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.440 of fish for kids. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.560 And also when you're further into it, I think the 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.600 perspective they have is just like incredible. But she was 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.520 saying that in one of their episodes, they were asking 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.520 how people celebrate Christmas and there are a lot of 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.800 people who just like, we just don't do it without 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.600 that person, And I think, each to your own, but like, 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.880 try to still do those things because you're gonna feel 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.719 the same, if not worse, right, So the hope is 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.320